Rebel News Podcast - September 05, 2024


SHEILA GUNN REID | No PST, No Problem: Alberta parents save big during back-to-school season


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Did you know that it's much cheaper to buy your school supplies in Alberta than in other parts of the country because of the absence of a provincial sales tax? Chris Simons from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation joins me tonight to tell us about the Alberta advantage.

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00:00:00.000 did you know that it's much cheaper to buy your school supplies in alberta chris sims from the
00:00:20.440 canadian taxpayers federation joins me tonight to tell us about the alberta advantage i'm
00:00:26.200 and you're watching the gun show alberta is the last province in this country to avoid having a
00:00:40.460 provincial sales tax although there are constant pushes from the big-headed people in academia who
00:00:47.780 can afford to pay and increase costs on literally everything for a provincial sales tax for them it
00:00:55.100 is much better to collect more money from the struggling taxpayer than to rein in government
00:01:02.240 spending but not having a provincial sales tax makes everything from buying groceries
00:01:08.540 to back to school shopping much more expensive in fact my guest today my friend chris sims of the
00:01:16.060 canadian taxpayers federation a mom just like me with kids going back to school ran the numbers
00:01:21.420 broke it down and she's got the details up next
00:01:25.960 so joining me now is my friend and good friend of the show chris sims of the canadian taxpayers
00:01:33.460 federation and i saw this uh post that you made uh maybe a week or so ago on x and it was about just
00:01:42.420 the savings that albertans have over other parents when we send our kids back to school tell us about
00:01:49.120 this yeah big time so again this is one of those things you know when um people join like a new
00:01:54.820 religion or they start a new diet or something and they're the ones that can't shut up about it 0.99
00:01:59.520 so i'm that person because i moved here cross fitter exactly so i moved here from british columbia
00:02:07.220 where they stick pst on everything including thrift shopped items and used cars so they're really bad for
00:02:13.080 that very mean to poor people and i moved here to the wonderful land of alberta that has no pst
00:02:18.400 so i have these fresh eyeballs on everything whenever i buy something and i wince a little at the till
00:02:24.660 it's not as bad as i was expecting for the tax because we don't have pst here in alberta and i
00:02:30.780 really wanted to highlight it because as you know sheila every now and then there's going to be 0.83
00:02:36.260 some paper that comes out some academic some politician who intones in a musky way you know
00:02:43.480 it is time for us to join the rest of canada and get a sales tax in alberta no we don't so i worked
00:02:49.960 out the math on average the average alberta family saves over 50 bucks just on the pst non-existing here
00:03:00.000 just on back to school shopping so i'm not talking about all the rest of the year so that's that's big
00:03:05.640 across the whole province if you add up the student population that's around 20 million dollars that
00:03:12.860 families are saving so that's amazing but you know we look at that as albertans are saving money
00:03:20.360 but those are other families across this country being absolutely hammered by this so you tack this
00:03:25.120 on to the cost of living um you know like it it's more money to drive your kids to school busing fees
00:03:34.120 are going up because of the carbon tax which justin trudeau just uh didn't even factor into the
00:03:39.160 equation um other families in the country are paying 50 more dollars than alberta families and
00:03:47.220 i know how hard it is for an alberta family to make ends meet which i mean it's just atrocious
00:03:51.520 it is it's disgusting and when you think about 50 bucks i can get two backpacks for that for my kids
00:03:58.080 if i shop smart i can even get a pair of winter boots for one of my kids new for that kind of
00:04:04.300 money and then you start thinking you're right about the other families so i'll use british columbia
00:04:08.680 as an example because it's pretty egregious for their costs and also i have first-hand experience
00:04:13.340 there so they'll put pst like i said on everything from a brand new laptop and you know an average
00:04:21.180 laptop nowadays will run you around 300 okay that's an instant 25 charge not including the eco
00:04:29.180 fee and all that other nonsense that they stick on there that's just pst they put pst on almost all
00:04:36.240 clothing almost all books and pens and paper and supplies now technically in british columbia you can
00:04:44.320 say hey these are tax exempt but like a handful of people know that in british columbia for school
00:04:50.960 supplies and almost no retailer knows about it you have to stand there literally with your
00:04:56.940 calculator and receipt in hand like citing the law with the clerk and even then the poor clerk
00:05:02.820 probably doesn't know how to give you pst exemption and quite often if you want to go all the way to
00:05:08.080 the mat you have to register like how many kids you have and how old they are and blah blah blah blah
00:05:13.620 in order to even get their seven percent pst back and so if you start thinking about this as a
00:05:20.080 family and you start adding all of that up on the pst on pretty much everything except for fresh food
00:05:26.380 it's an outrageous burden on families and it's when times come around things like christmas shopping
00:05:32.720 things like back to school holidays that's when it really shows for that price tag and so i really
00:05:40.340 wanted to highlight the difference that we pay here in alberta it is a real alberta advantage and also
00:05:46.240 highlight how unfair this is in other provinces and some of the things are just stupid like in in 0.61
00:05:51.560 saskatchewan you pay correct me if i'm wrong folks who are listening it's six percent pst you pay it on
00:05:59.100 atlases but you don't pay it on maps
00:06:02.040 in british columbia backpacks are taxable but bags specifically designed to carry books are not
00:06:11.240 so it's one of these ridiculous bureaucratic maze hell tax code situations that just winds up costing
00:06:18.880 people a ton of money and we don't pay it here in alberta and we have to fight to keep it that way
00:06:22.900 ctf is something that i really appreciate is because you take these like big complex tax issues which are
00:06:29.920 i think specifically complex so you just throw up your hands and pay it um but you break it down
00:06:35.520 by what it means to each individual family so you've done uh calculations about how much your
00:06:42.000 christmas dinner is you know how much it costs less in alberta than it does in other provinces and i
00:06:49.560 think that's really important to not only help albertans understand how important fighting to keep
00:06:55.240 a pst out of our province is but how important it is for other provinces to look at their own
00:06:59.800 governments and say wouldn't it be great if you gave us a little bit of a tax break here
00:07:03.580 yes exactly it it is done on purpose so if a bureaucrat or a politician can get away
00:07:10.020 with telling you oh well the carbon tax is 80 something dollars per ton
00:07:14.920 like your eyes glaze over nobody knows what the hell that means i don't know what that means really
00:07:20.120 it's like honey did you pick up a ton of carbon on the way home no what is the ton of carbon like
00:07:24.660 what is the ton of carbon who knows exactly what is a ton of carbon can you even picture it in your head
00:07:29.540 like i kind of picture like a gigantic like earth mover truck full of like black stuff and then what
00:07:34.960 is it taxed based on it's crazy but if i tell you it's 15 bucks per fill up of a pickup truck
00:07:41.940 there you go that's a roast chicken and a jug of milk right fill it up twice now you're buying a turkey
00:07:49.320 with some fixings see how that helps so it's the same thing with pst so here in alberta on average
00:07:55.720 it's around 50 savings per family on the pst and this is me cutting it in half okay because there
00:08:02.500 there's deloitte which does this big survey every year for consumerism and they actually estimated that
00:08:07.820 the average uh canadian family spends around 700 on back to school and so the thrifty mama and me was
00:08:15.820 like that's really expensive so i cut that in half say you spend 350 okay this is how much we're saving
00:08:22.240 so the average alberta family saving around 50 bucks what they're paying in ontario for example
00:08:27.900 is like 65 60 dollars extra per family again this is just for this little window of back to school
00:08:35.340 shopping spread that kind of spending or saving out over the entire year and we see why people in
00:08:41.500 other provinces are struggling worse here than in alberta now i wanted to stress though i do know
00:08:47.040 and i hear you folks in alberta are still struggling like a lot can i mention something so it really
00:08:54.040 annoyed me so uh i've been uh friends with rob snow for a long time he's a good friend of mine now he's a
00:09:00.380 he's a mainstream media radio host he has a national show um way back in the day we started working
00:09:06.280 together in the early 2000s like back when we had blackberries and like still cat cassette recorders for
00:09:10.920 reporting um i was on there uh about a week or so ago with a liberal strategist well known in the
00:09:17.860 ottawa sector you see her on tv all the time and we were talking about the trudeau government's cabinet
00:09:23.660 retreat in halifax and i said you know what keep your receipts because the last few retreats you guys
00:09:30.000 have gone on like in charlottetown and vancouver have been stupid expensive and you're wasting money 0.65
00:09:34.820 and she snarkily said oh well i guess i should just pack a peanut butter sandwich
00:09:39.900 yeah they should um they should also stay home because we have gigantic buildings in ottawa that
00:09:47.260 taxpayers already pay for but you know what's stuck in my craw sheila is that peanut butter
00:09:53.120 is a staple for food banks peanut butter is one of the things i have noticed between inflation and
00:10:00.680 the carbon tax has gone up ridiculously in the last three years i was at a store mainstream store with
00:10:07.480 a huge grocery section just yesterday peanut butter was 11 10.99 for a one kilogram brand name
00:10:16.500 jar of peanut butter not organic standard regular peanut butter 11 bucks i used to be able to get
00:10:24.700 peanut butter on sale for 3.75 just a few years ago and so i was that really annoyed me because she said
00:10:32.360 in a really sarcastic way oh should we pack peanut butter sandwiches okay number one uh we shouldn't be
00:10:39.120 paying for a lobster or whatever at these retreats number two these retreats shouldn't be happening
00:10:43.220 outside of ottawa there's no reason for it and number three read the room like why why can some of these
00:10:50.380 folks not read the room we've got record demand for food banks and 50 percent of canadians are within
00:10:55.020 200 bucks of not making all their minimum payments why can't this set understand this
00:11:01.340 well and these are the same people who told me that it was acceptable to go to church over zoom
00:11:06.920 surely to hell they can have their cabinet retreats over zoom too and as you are as you rightly
00:11:13.100 point out read the room um the top three issues i think are inflation affordability and health care
00:11:21.940 in this country and they're off having luxury cabinet retreats while canadians are struggling
00:11:29.400 to make ends meet and being crushed under these escalating trudeau taxes i mean it's appalling yeah
00:11:35.500 pack a peanut butter sandwich or as you say better yet stay home yeah exactly and their food is paid for
00:11:41.620 in ottawa because the members of parliament i keep repeating this are technically away from home
00:11:47.680 when they're in ottawa so they're like on the per diem train so their food is paid for and almost
00:11:55.620 always especially when the house is in session i think there's at least two maybe three but i think
00:12:01.140 at least two hot meals provided right in the lobby of the house of commons like big chilled juice
00:12:07.200 bottles grilled fish all that stuff every flippin day so yeah maybe you could you know suffer
00:12:15.680 stay in the national capital while you're trying to do the nation's work
00:12:20.920 we've before i want to talk to you about doing the nation's work and how justin trudeau doesn't plan to
00:12:28.180 ever apparently ever balance a budget but things are sort of looking up here in alberta we
00:12:33.760 our fiscal fiscal update was out shows that we've got an even higher surplus than was estimated
00:12:39.320 but uh you point out that that's that's good news but it's not all good news yeah so i'll start with
00:12:46.600 the good news because i think everybody needs good news so folks if they remember so the way that
00:12:51.520 budgets work okay is that the big february budget that comes out provincially is really kind of just a
00:12:59.360 fiscal update i know that sounds weird but the final numbers aren't super duper in all the way
00:13:05.160 okay so in february the alberta government reported a teeny tiny little surplus like in a budget worth
00:13:14.420 around 70 billion dollars a surplus of 367 million is as thin as a baby kitten's whisker
00:13:23.220 so that's fine fast forward to now we had our first quarterly fiscal update at the very end of
00:13:31.280 august beginning of september happens every year the good news is is that the surplus is more than four
00:13:38.180 billion dollars with a b that's good the little yellow light of caution i have here on my dashboard
00:13:44.720 though and i could sense that tone coming from minister horner as well so i don't think i'm speaking
00:13:49.400 at a school um is that as he called it it's an accounting surplus so what does that mean exactly
00:13:55.940 so that means they don't have a lot of cash on hand for the rest of the fiscal year that can
00:14:02.240 sometimes be okay because that means that governments are less likely to blow the money
00:14:06.980 right and it also i think it means that they're not taking in more than they should
00:14:10.700 yes so i'm always worried when they say surplus i'm like what you took too much from me
00:14:15.560 give me my tax cut exactly exactly right we'll get to that and so i found this very interesting
00:14:21.900 his kind of tone of caution it was like cautious optimism i would describe it as and we shared that
00:14:27.160 um and so what's happening is this gets a little weird there are still borrowing more money
00:14:34.540 the debt is going up by a few billion dollars concerning i spoke with the finance department several
00:14:43.900 times that day and they said oh we're borrowing more now because we have a much better rate right
00:14:50.080 now than they're anticipating years going forward and so that way we're doing it now it's all part of
00:14:55.880 the way that we're balancing it out blah blah blah blah so my note of caution there is that you can't
00:15:00.480 predict the future nobody knows what the rates are going to be nobody knows what's going to roll down
00:15:06.160 the pipe next time there could be a disaster god forbid um so that's a little bit concerning the bright
00:15:12.920 side though is that our interest payments they call them debt servicing costs our interest payments
00:15:19.060 are going down we're spending about a hundred million dollars less this year right now servicing
00:15:25.600 the debt paying our interest on our credit card in alberta than we were last year so that's good
00:15:30.880 so again it's it's good news and a little bit of yellow caution lights the really good news is that
00:15:37.820 we have got really strong fiscal guardrails in place in alberta it might be some of the strongest
00:15:43.700 actually in north america definitely the strongest in all of canada meaning they must balance the
00:15:48.780 budget okay they must keep spending increases below the rate of inflation plus population growth
00:15:54.600 we've been telling them to do that since the backstreet boys were topping the charts if they'd
00:15:58.600 listen to us back in the mid 90s we'd have 300 billion dollars stuffed under the mattress right now
00:16:04.280 not including interest and they also have to use half of cash surpluses down on the debt
00:16:11.620 with the rest of it either going into the savings fund heritage fund or being spent on one-time
00:16:17.700 spending the other part of the good news is that the heritage fund keeps going up they put more money
00:16:23.460 into it and all of the cash from it like the the basically you'd call it a dividend right the money
00:16:30.100 coming from it is staying in it now that used to be moved over to the operating column no longer so
00:16:37.160 they've passed some really good legislation here so it's mostly good news i did want to note caution
00:16:42.580 though that they are borrowing more money which is concerning let's just talk about those debt
00:16:47.540 servicing costs uh those were so high thanks to the ndp and their successive credit downgrades
00:16:54.400 um they the ndp uh with their fiscal irresponsibility they're borrowing their deficit spending caused
00:17:03.880 alberta's credit rating to fall which makes borrowing money a lot more expensive uh now we're seeing
00:17:11.100 improvements in our credit rating uh and these credit rating agencies are have a little bit more
00:17:16.340 confidence in alberta thanks to those guardrails that you pointed out and just being a little bit
00:17:21.840 more prudent makes borrowing a little bit more affordable yes even though i'm against the
00:17:26.800 borrowing yeah exactly and this is it and you don't need to take our word for it you can actually
00:17:31.860 go to like moody's and you know different you know lending international credit rating agencies and
00:17:36.480 read their reasoning for giving the province of alberta credit rating upgrades we've had two maybe
00:17:42.160 three in the last little while so that's really good news that's the opposite of what's happening in a lot
00:17:48.020 of other provinces and the language they give is usually things like you know stable expectations
00:17:54.260 of oil prices that's fair um and key here balanced budgets balanced budgets they always mention that
00:18:02.780 saving money putting it into the savings fund they'll list these things as reasons for giving us
00:18:08.760 a better credit rating so these are all really positive things and it's important for people to pay
00:18:14.080 attention to them yeah i think under rachel notley's uh fiscal governance uh we saw maybe six or eight
00:18:22.040 credit downgrades which is really unheard of because we had been uh financially strong in this province
00:18:28.060 despite an increase in debt for a very long time it just took four fast years to undo so much of that
00:18:35.600 good work she never balanced the budget one time like not one time in four years it was consecutive 1.00
00:18:42.560 deficit budgets so and usually going you know at the end of your term you'd expect at least a
00:18:48.700 balanced budget no no that doesn't seem to really occur to them as a problem so and it is a huge
00:18:55.020 problem look at what's happened to british columbia it's astonishing british columbia used to have
00:18:59.460 balanced budget legislation believe it or not and now looks like they have no plans under the current
00:19:04.660 eb government to ever balance the budget and to be fair when john horgan was premier before the
00:19:10.800 lockdowns and the madness happened and carol james was his finance minister she seemed to take it
00:19:17.280 pretty seriously with balanced budgets and she had some balanced budgets their capital spending was going
00:19:22.160 up but they had some pretty strong operationally balanced budgets on that column that has gone out
00:19:27.160 the window like gone gone and now their debt is just skyrocketing over there so here we're in a much
00:19:33.320 better position politicians not even trying what a segue into justin trudeau uh he you know the man
00:19:42.440 who once famously said that uh the budget will balance itself and that he examines the economy from
00:19:50.580 the heart outward whatever that means uh i guess we're getting what we voted for and by we i mean
00:19:57.320 the royal we and specifically not me um because it appears as though the feds are never ever going
00:20:04.700 to even consider balancing the budget but they don't have a lot of time left in office i don't think
00:20:09.180 yeah it's pretty grim um i'm trying to i always try to end on a hopeful note but um it is pretty grim
00:20:15.860 so you're right uh they did say that they were it was going to balance itself they did say they would
00:20:20.980 grow the economy from the heart outwards um he has said in the past he doesn't think of fiscal policy
00:20:27.000 which is really concerning what's key for me though is that he did set a deadline for himself
00:20:32.320 he said that they were going to run little itty bitty deficits as prime minister stephen harper had
00:20:36.880 called them but trudeau promised to balance the budget in 2019 so forget about the lockdowns this is
00:20:45.640 all pre-2020 he promised to balance the budget then they did not like narrator they did not like
00:20:53.120 and did they ever not so in the year this is what blows my mind and my good friend franco terrazzano
00:20:58.600 has explained this really well and he's done the math the fiscal year 2018 2019 the trudeau government
00:21:06.540 spent more money in that year than in any one year of the second world war adjusted for inflation and
00:21:14.580 population like nothing crazy was happening a tsunami was not hitting canada aliens were not invading in
00:21:21.580 2018 2019 but they still managed to overspend to that extent and so this is why you're exactly right
00:21:30.280 the parliamentary budget officer has again found that based on what we're doing right now
00:21:36.800 and if they don't approve new spending which is almost impossible and if the economy is super strong
00:21:44.760 sheila they will only balance the budget like coast to a stop in 2040
00:21:50.880 i know franco told me that i was i choked yeah 2040 and the amount of money i think we're going to spend
00:22:01.980 i can't remember if it was on interest payments or because we're not balancing the budget he'd worked
00:22:07.080 it out it was in the hundreds of millions of dollars like i think it was close to like 800
00:22:11.780 like billion dollars it was crazy that we're overspending and it's so crazy because part of my job is to pay
00:22:19.560 attention to these committee hearings where it's just spending money wasting money giving it to well-connected
00:22:26.560 liberal insiders without any sort of oversight or accountability everybody's getting their pockets lined
00:22:31.700 and it's it's just basic good old common sense you watch the pennies and the dollars will take care of
00:22:39.820 themselves now when you balloon it up to the federal government pennies might mean millions of dollars
00:22:44.700 but they are the millions of dollars just flying out and we end up a trillion dollars in debt
00:22:50.420 yes before you know it and this is how quick it's happened uh so we toured the debt clock very briefly across
00:22:56.840 alberta because we had to frankly move it from bc to saskatchewan so don't waste the gas money make
00:23:01.220 sure you stop a couple right right makes sense hey watch the pennies and the dollars take care of
00:23:06.440 themselves um and so we did a couple of brief stops in places like lethbridge and red deer and edmonton
00:23:12.080 and we pointed out that the trudeau government in less than a decade has doubled the debt so later this
00:23:20.800 fiscal year i think right around now actually the debt will have doubled and it's easy to say that
00:23:26.320 but like we do with like the turkey dinner and stuff no no no picture all of the other governments
00:23:31.740 like picture you know mcdonald laurier pearson diefenbaker harper the first trudeau you know
00:23:39.360 sometimes you know mckenzie king like in some cases they were going through you know massive wars 0.99
00:23:45.560 huge recessions depressions all of that picture all of those debts now double it
00:23:52.600 that's what this trudeau government has done and so to show for it nothing nothing really but i know
00:24:01.620 i know and i i hate getting like this because it makes people lose hope um don't lose hope folks
00:24:06.960 there is a way to do this in fact even if they just went back to their projected spending
00:24:11.700 for like 2021 2022 our budget would be balanced like they don't need to go crazy austerity you know
00:24:20.140 as much as some people would like them to they could just simply balance it i know they could
00:24:24.780 just simply balance it speaking personally um they could balance it just by going back to that
00:24:30.640 projection and so there is hope there just doesn't seem to be a will right now um in this current
00:24:35.840 administration an understanding of i guess what stephen harper understood is if you get out of the way
00:24:43.300 of business you can even cut business taxes and those businesses become more profitable and ultimately
00:24:49.480 will generate more money into the economy which helps pay down the debt and there's a real
00:24:55.300 disconnect with these far left-wing governments that they don't understand that
00:25:00.260 uh you you have to stop wringing money out of businesses so that they can spend money to make
00:25:07.180 money to create jobs to create new taxpayers they just don't seem to understand that they don't and
00:25:13.720 it's not hard to understand okay so back back when the ucp was campaigning a little while ago remember
00:25:21.380 they were promising tax cuts for all albertans they do promise those are coming they say the income tax
00:25:25.400 is coming and they're going to come out with a framework i think later this month and they said it
00:25:30.020 should happen by budget which is february so that's good so all that to say is that's what
00:25:35.300 caused me to go really deep into budgets and start looking at tax rates for companies for businesses
00:25:41.740 and looking at comparing apples to apples looking at different provinces different different tax rates
00:25:47.780 it's true in all of the cases i was able to see there might be some outliers out there but all the
00:25:53.420 cases i was able to see when they reduced the business taxes the income from those business
00:26:00.340 taxes went up right that sounds counterintuitive but exactly like you just explained because that
00:26:07.540 attracts more businesses like more human beings start businesses because of the low tax rates and even
00:26:15.820 with those low tax rates they then pay into that tax it was every time i checked in different
00:26:22.040 jurisdictions based on the year based on the amount the income went up when the tax rate went down
00:26:27.460 this does work money like that the businesses spend it they hire people who then pay income tax
00:26:36.400 they buy equipment they're paying gst on the equipment they're paying gas tax on the equipment
00:26:41.880 it it just has a knock a trickle down econ economics uh throughout the entire economy um and the left just
00:26:51.500 sure doesn't like to admit that that sort of stuff works but it works everywhere the disconnect happens
00:26:57.700 i think is that some people don't understand that productive people want to do stuff yes yes they
00:27:06.880 don't just like scrooge mcduck their way through money yeah you know spitting gold coins out of
00:27:13.380 their bills yeah swimming swimming in those little bags of cash like that that isn't what typically
00:27:20.100 typically that is not what productive rich people do productive rich people do were the kid that were
00:27:25.840 fidgeting in class they were always drawing or making something up or trying to you know shoot the
00:27:31.280 teacher with an elastic or something like that they were they were mischievous they were curious they were
00:27:35.900 innovating productive people like to do stuff and what happens when they get more money is they do
00:27:42.760 stuff with that money like you said hiring people buying better equipment making their business more
00:27:48.120 efficient expanding starting a new storefront etc and so this is how this works and so we're just
00:27:55.160 hoping that eventually some administration will get this message and reduce taxes and let p get out of 0.98
00:28:01.760 the way of people because man they folks are really struggling i i met a couple in red deer who works
00:28:08.820 so hard he's a drywall or tradesman type person his wife works alongside of him they buy a house that's
00:28:14.700 from the 40s or 50s and they got they got it down to the studs at the top level and they make it so
00:28:19.960 it's three bedrooms plus a new bathroom so it's easier for families to live in right and they barely make 0.90
00:28:27.060 money doing it sheila they're so scared about being nailed with house flipping taxes and like
00:28:34.300 now a threatened home equity tax and these capital gains taxes they're living in the garage
00:28:39.900 they're literally camping out in the garage these two hard-working people driving an older truck like
00:28:45.980 barely making it and then they work their butts off to renovate the house one at a time they own it
00:28:51.680 they live in it but they're still so freaked out about being called house flippers or something
00:28:56.480 like that by trudeau he's never actually you know pulled a wage in his whole life like it gets so
00:29:02.540 frustrating and that was just one couple i'm sure there's millions of people in similar situations
00:29:07.080 working that hard across canada and i'll never forget what the gentleman said to me the husband
00:29:11.360 he said my parents worked really hard same sort of folks tradesman type bootstrap type but they
00:29:17.940 always made the next step i can't see the next step that's hard and so we really need the government
00:29:27.780 to balance the budget quit wasting money and scrap these taxes
00:29:30.680 that sort of stuff smothers the economy because we need hard-working people like that to be able to 1.00
00:29:41.740 take the risk they need to grow their business because if we don't have people like that renovating 0.91
00:29:47.860 older houses there are no affordable houses no for those first single families trying to buy their
00:29:53.940 house yep bingo yeah it's terrible uh chris how do people support the work that you do at the ctf
00:30:03.480 because you guys don't even take favorable tax breaks no federal government so tell us how we can
00:30:10.080 get involved and give you a hand yeah so we started back in 1990 uh by some prairie populists in
00:30:16.060 alberta and saskatchewan who were mad at the gst um and so they were really smart and visionary and
00:30:21.940 um we don't so we're not a charity we're a not-for-profit and yeah you're right we don't even
00:30:26.660 give a tax receipt for donations because we don't want to have one would have as little government
00:30:32.280 contact as possible we don't want to involve tax dollars as best we can um and so they can go to
00:30:37.520 taxpayer.com and the best way through the door to get involved with us is to sign some of our
00:30:43.460 petitions and this is the hope this is the good part about the whole story is that i love that
00:30:49.160 because it gives people a sense of agency ownership and fellowship yes it lets you know you're not
00:30:55.520 alone and so sign a petition that speaks to you do you want to defund the cbc do you want to stop
00:31:02.340 giving government taxpayers money to media do you want to scrap the gun confiscation i know all of
00:31:07.780 these things and i even have one in there for you sheila to take away the pst on thrift shop items in 1.00
00:31:13.340 british columbia because i fervently believe that's an attack on the poor and i think it's more
00:31:18.380 it's morally wrong yeah so we have all these petitions on there sign the ones that speak to
00:31:23.460 you and then you're on our list you'll start getting our updates and we'll do calls to action
00:31:28.420 if everybody email the politician now or everybody come out to a pub night right and so that's how they
00:31:33.680 go go to taxpayer.com sign the petitions that are shiny to you and away we go it's great chris thanks
00:31:39.900 so much for coming on the show um i hope to see you very soon and i think we will i know and i know
00:31:45.500 my viewers feel the same way so thanks so much
00:31:47.520 i say this every week but i think it is important to say every week why because we get new viewers all
00:32:02.500 the time and you people have to learn the rules but i want to acknowledge with every single show
00:32:07.960 how important your opinions are to me i care about what you think about the work that we do here rebel
00:32:14.440 because without you without your support without you sharing our work without uh your financial
00:32:22.000 contributions there really is no rebel news because we will never take a penny from justin trudeau
00:32:26.640 to do the work that we do and like how could we ever hold him to account if we did but it's not just
00:32:33.200 about justin trudeau it's about all levels of government so i give out my email address right now
00:32:40.020 sheila at rebelnews.com if you've got a question or comment about my conversation with my friend chris
00:32:46.240 sims of the canadian taxpayers federation send it to me put gun show letters in the subject line
00:32:50.760 so i know why you're emailing me but don't let that be the bar for entry if you are watching a free
00:32:56.660 version of the show so clips whatever on youtube or rumble if you've shared those with your friends
00:33:03.480 and i do appreciate if you do that because that's how we get more paid subscribers and they leave a
00:33:08.940 comment over there i frequently go and poke around on youtube and rumble for comments because i think
00:33:15.340 if people are saying those things over there maybe you're thinking them too so send me an email
00:33:22.600 leave a comment might just end up right on air but sometimes i read emails that come to me for other
00:33:28.440 reasons for example i just got and responded to an email from somebody named claire and she was
00:33:38.580 emailing me with a concern and so i thought maybe some of you people have the same concern so maybe i
00:33:44.400 i shouldn't just address this concern with claire but with everybody so claire writes to me hello
00:33:50.260 sheila i have emailed rebelnews several times to ask that you actually show the petition you were asking
00:33:55.780 people to sign okay first of all if you emailed us several times i'm sorry but uh we do get
00:34:01.980 personally dozens sometimes a hundred emails a day and uh sometimes there are just not enough hours in
00:34:11.320 the day to address them all i really do try there i would be responding to emails 24 hours of the day
00:34:18.560 i have never received a reply and petition texts are still not shown
00:34:24.760 why do you expect anyone to sign a petition they can't read i find this very annoying
00:34:30.920 and do not appreciate the fact that this concern
00:34:33.920 has never been addressed well claire you're getting it addressed right now
00:34:38.260 could you please fix this issue and start providing the text of any petitions you post
00:34:42.980 thank you claire well claire and i sent an email back to claire saying we often receive dozens if
00:34:50.040 not hundreds of emails a day however i'm not sure what you mean by not showing the text of the petition
00:34:56.660 for example here's our latest petition against the appointment of christopher wells christopher wells is a
00:35:05.540 radical sex extremist here in alberta and justin trudeau has subverted the will of the alberta electorate
00:35:14.000 because we elect our senators here and then the long-standing tradition is that the prime minister then appoints them
00:35:19.860 but he has just gone completely around us and appointed his own sex activist instead of the
00:35:25.280 senators and waiting as we call them and we ran a petition called not my senator
00:35:31.100 not my senator dot com and if you go to not my senator dot com
00:35:35.880 of course we show the text of the petition
00:35:41.160 so i don't know what you're talking about claire maybe you're not following through to the url the
00:35:48.240 the specific website that would create for every petition but it's there
00:35:54.080 uh it says petition not my senator here's the text of the petition we demand that justin trudeau
00:36:02.300 rescind his appointment of christopher wells to the senate if trudeau refuses to revoke his
00:36:07.340 appointment then we the undersigned demand that all alberta elected officials should refuse to meet
00:36:12.460 with wells or give him any legitimacy trudeau must respect democracy and then you can sign it there
00:36:18.600 and uh at first i thought maybe this is an issue with how it looks on mobile versus desktop but i
00:36:29.640 went to my phone and it it appears you know a little bit different but the text is still exactly the
00:36:35.600 same so then i thought sheila keep looking maybe maybe claire is on to something let's not completely
00:36:41.940 write off her concerns so then i went to a petition that i recently ran to double check
00:36:47.940 and it's uh senator sellout dot com or dot ca and it is on the appointment of charles adler
00:36:56.360 a far left-wing extremist to the senate to represent manitoba charles adler continues to present him as a
00:37:05.860 conservative while being the biggest trudeau fan boy alive and he's a sellout so if you look at where
00:37:13.880 it says sign the petition on the website my petition is shame on senator sellout charles adler a former
00:37:22.360 conservative commenter applied to justin trudeau to be a senator well trudeau just accepted his
00:37:29.100 application to become canada's newest senator after decades of deriding the senate as a corrupt
00:37:33.580 institution a sewer and a barn that needed to burn down he became one of the sewer dwellers he so 0.97
00:37:38.720 previously despised charles adler is a sellout he should step aside if you agree please sign the
00:37:44.060 petition right here on this page to tell senator sellout to do just that and so uh that petition is
00:37:55.020 also the text of the petition is right there so maybe i don't know claire if you're not looking in
00:38:01.300 the right place but i also attached a screenshot there of how it looked on my phone just just not
00:38:09.000 to prove a point but just to i don't know maybe claire needed help on where to look so um if some of 1.00
00:38:17.600 you are having that same problem uh hopefully that addressed your questions there too but we do
00:38:23.220 we don't want you signing something that you don't know what you're signing we want you to be well aware
00:38:30.960 of what the petition says before you throw your name behind it and so it's it's clear there are no
00:38:39.960 tricks that's the petition you sign it and we will deliver it that's the most important part of the
00:38:47.160 petition it's not collecting the names it's making sure the person whom the petition is directed at
00:38:53.980 is shown how many people are in favor of the petition so but and our petitions aren't always
00:39:04.500 negative for example our stop stop classroom grooming petition not only is it targeted at people
00:39:11.540 who are pro classroom grooming nilly caplan mirth of the ottawa carlton district school board i'm looking
00:39:17.360 at you but i also went to saskatchewan and delivered it to their education minister after he took a strong
00:39:23.620 stance in support of parents rights because we wanted to show him not just how many people are against
00:39:30.940 classroom grooming but in support of his actions to defend the rights of parents got it okay great well
00:39:38.960 everybody that's the show for tonight thank you so much for tuning in i'll see everybody back here
00:39:43.080 in the same time in the same place next week and as always don't let the government tell you that
00:39:47.440 you've had too much to think