Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Ottawa's spending spree without a budget—with Kris Sims

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00:00:36.300 The Kearney Liberals are spending like drunken sailors,

00:00:38.480 but they forgot one small thing.

00:00:39.980 Oh, a federal budget.

00:00:41.400 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:00:58.380 Hart Kearney's brand-new government has committed

00:01:03.860 to spending tens of billions of dollars

00:01:06.560 on everything from meeting their NATO commitments,

00:01:10.080 finally, to a national gun confiscation program.

00:01:13.260 And they're doing it all without tabling a budget,

00:01:15.180 and we won't see one until late 2025.

00:01:18.100 That's not just reckless, it's unprecedented,

00:01:20.980 and it lacks complete and total transparency.

00:01:25.300 I think it violates the taxpayer trust.

00:01:28.120 On today's show, we're going to be also unpacking

00:01:30.660 how the provincial finance ministers are faring.

00:01:34.580 The Canadian Taxpayers Federation

00:01:35.860 has just issued their report cards.

00:01:38.920 Don't you want to know how Alberta did?

00:01:41.180 Then we'll talk about the Auditor General's

00:01:44.260 takedown of GC Strategies,

00:01:46.680 the shadowy firm at the heart of the Arrive Can scandal,

00:01:49.980 and the appointment of CBC's new president.

00:01:55.260 Chris Sims joins the show tonight.

00:01:57.320 She's the Alberta Director of the Taxpayers Federation.

00:02:00.440 In an interview we recorded yesterday morning.

00:02:03.400 Take a listen.

00:02:11.380 So joining me now is good friend of the show,

00:02:14.140 my personal good friend,

00:02:15.940 and good friend to taxpayers everywhere,

00:02:17.420 Chris Sims, the Alberta Director

00:02:18.860 of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.

00:02:21.360 Chris, I wanted to have you on today

00:02:23.800 to talk about the macro issue

00:02:26.040 and then sort of the micro issue

00:02:28.380 of finances in this country.

00:02:32.480 And right off the top,

00:02:35.220 we aren't getting a budget anytime soon

00:02:38.560 from our new Prime Minister,

00:02:40.720 who is allegedly a finance guy.

00:02:42.240 And, by the way, sorry to interrupt,

00:02:45.180 all the same people.

00:02:46.560 So it's not like they have to figure out

00:02:48.220 how to learn on the job

00:02:49.520 before they get a budget going.

00:02:53.100 These are quite literally all the same people

00:02:54.860 from Justin Trudeau's cabinet.

00:02:56.220 So get to work, guys.

00:02:58.320 Yeah, exactly.

00:02:59.180 I love how you said sorry to interrupt

00:03:00.580 and it was talking to yourself.

00:03:02.620 That was my favorite part.

00:03:04.140 This is a mess.

00:03:07.140 Straight up, I know that

00:03:08.880 if there are still normies watching,

00:03:11.100 hello, interesting people watching.

00:03:13.700 If there are still normies watching,

00:03:15.700 it can be understandable

00:03:16.960 when you're like,

00:03:17.940 okay, he's new to the job.

00:03:20.680 Like, the physical human of Mark Carney

00:03:23.340 is new to the role of Prime Minister.

00:03:26.120 Okay, sure.

00:03:27.320 That's fine.

00:03:29.080 Dude also has a PhD in economics from Oxford.

00:03:32.060 He was also a central banker,

00:03:34.420 head of the Bank of Canada,

00:03:35.400 head of the Bank of England.

00:03:36.580 So he's been around an abacus before.

00:03:39.020 Okay, he knows the maths.

00:03:41.180 That said, you're right.

00:03:43.560 Wasn't he also the financial advisor

00:03:48.000 to the leader of the Liberal Party of Canada,

00:03:50.400 who by default is also the Prime Minister

00:03:52.380 of this country, for five years?

00:03:54.560 So it's not like he's like

00:03:55.660 just opening up the books for the first time.

00:03:58.760 He's the keeper of the books.

00:04:00.580 Yes, exactly.

00:04:01.380 And furthermore,

00:04:03.380 he's just the figurehead.

00:04:06.000 It is not Mark Carney

00:04:07.660 sitting up at night,

00:04:08.980 sharpening his pencil,

00:04:10.340 writing out the budget.

00:04:11.780 Further, it's not even the Cabinet Minister 0.92

00:04:14.460 with this clown car

00:04:16.060 of the same Cabinet Ministers

00:04:17.360 who are now paid

00:04:18.560 more than $300,000 per year plus perks.

00:04:21.400 It's the bureaucrats. 0.99

00:04:23.580 Right.

00:04:24.400 It's the same bureaucrats

00:04:26.680 within the Department of Treasury

00:04:28.440 and within the Department of Finance.

00:04:31.220 This is their entire job

00:04:33.340 to keep a running tally

00:04:35.400 of all of these columns.

00:04:37.260 So there are the ones that work out

00:04:39.700 all of the revenue by source,

00:04:42.220 okay,

00:04:42.780 all of the expense by function,

00:04:45.220 which is basically what a budget is.

00:04:47.320 You don't need to shove a whole bunch of, 0.99

00:04:48.880 you know,

00:04:49.640 social words in there.

00:04:51.000 It's really straight up.

00:04:52.500 How much money are we taking in

00:04:54.280 and from what sources?

00:04:55.720 How much money are we dishing out

00:04:57.660 and to whom?

00:04:59.220 That's it.

00:05:00.060 That's essentially what a budget is.

00:05:01.740 And you also need to figure out

00:05:03.200 if you've got a deficit,

00:05:04.420 how much that's adding to the debt.

00:05:06.160 And you need to calculate

00:05:07.400 your debt interest payments.

00:05:09.340 So it's kind of like

00:05:10.160 the big country credit card.

00:05:11.960 That's it.

00:05:12.640 That's a budget.

00:05:13.760 And so, yeah,

00:05:15.180 the pointy heads,

00:05:16.440 the smart kids

00:05:17.140 with the pocket protectors,

00:05:18.340 and I know there are some

00:05:19.220 in there in finance,

00:05:20.180 okay,

00:05:20.340 they got all this data.

00:05:22.420 They have all of this.

00:05:24.100 So, yes,

00:05:25.440 the short answer is

00:05:26.440 could they put out a budget?

00:05:27.900 Yes, they could.

00:05:29.280 Would it be as flowery

00:05:30.900 and fluffy

00:05:31.780 as, say,

00:05:32.980 a throne speech

00:05:33.940 and all of the little hopes

00:05:35.180 and pixie dust dreams

00:05:36.200 shoved into it?

00:05:37.240 No,

00:05:37.880 that takes a little while to write,

00:05:39.680 but you don't need

00:05:40.740 that stuff in there.

00:05:41.980 What we need

00:05:42.620 is a fiscal document.

00:05:44.680 That's all we need.

00:05:45.940 And unfortunately,

00:05:46.880 we're going to have to now

00:05:47.900 wait until the fall

00:05:49.100 to get it.

00:05:51.260 And that's crazy

00:05:52.200 because they're making

00:05:52.860 these wild spending

00:05:54.240 announcements right now.

00:05:55.400 And look,

00:05:55.740 I'm not one to say

00:05:57.380 that we shouldn't be meeting

00:05:59.760 our NATO spending commitments.

00:06:01.440 Of all the spending

00:06:02.240 the government does,

00:06:02.940 that's one of them

00:06:03.600 that I think is probably okay.

00:06:05.440 But they're making

00:06:06.260 these spending announcements

00:06:07.520 without a budget.

00:06:09.820 And these are billions

00:06:10.760 and billions of dollars

00:06:12.120 worth of spending announcements

00:06:13.660 without telling Canadians 0.97

00:06:16.040 where the money's coming from

00:06:18.080 and where it is actually going

00:06:19.380 at the end of the day.

00:06:20.340 Yeah,

00:06:20.960 it reminds me,

00:06:22.640 I don't like bringing

00:06:23.780 this time up,

00:06:24.460 but I'm going to keep

00:06:25.080 bringing it up

00:06:25.580 because nobody's been

00:06:26.480 held accountable for it.

00:06:27.700 It reminds me of back

00:06:29.140 in early 2020s time,

00:06:31.100 just as we're in lockdown.

00:06:32.700 Remember when the federal

00:06:33.860 government tried to say,

00:06:35.480 oh yeah,

00:06:36.000 and by the way,

00:06:36.740 we're not going to put out

00:06:37.780 a budget like ever again

00:06:39.240 and we're just going to spend

00:06:40.540 as much as we want

00:06:41.480 with no representation

00:06:43.100 in parliament?

00:06:44.120 Bye,

00:06:44.520 thank you.

00:06:45.220 They tried pulling that.

00:06:47.460 Right.

00:06:47.760 Like the feds tried pulling that.

00:06:50.040 Basically,

00:06:51.000 grant us unfettered spending power,

00:06:54.720 please,

00:06:55.240 parliament,

00:06:56.020 with no checks and balances.

00:06:57.920 Thank goodness cooler heads prevailed

00:06:59.720 and were like,

00:07:00.400 um,

00:07:00.660 no,

00:07:00.960 how about we don't actually

00:07:02.380 all jump off a cliff?

00:07:03.600 They still wound up

00:07:04.700 blowing a ton of money

00:07:05.940 and being terribly unaccountable

00:07:08.820 during that time,

00:07:09.840 but they actually tried

00:07:11.240 pulling that fast one.

00:07:13.020 So this is why

00:07:14.020 no matter what color

00:07:15.360 the jersey is,

00:07:16.440 if it's a red government

00:07:17.680 or a blue government,

00:07:18.460 it doesn't matter.

00:07:19.460 You need to stay on these folks

00:07:21.320 like white on rice

00:07:22.300 and say,

00:07:23.160 nope,

00:07:23.560 we need that fiscal document.

00:07:25.460 We need a budget.

00:07:26.580 You need to table it.

00:07:27.920 We need to be able to examine it

00:07:29.340 because otherwise

00:07:30.120 you wind up with

00:07:31.000 an unaccountable government

00:07:32.100 that is blowing money

00:07:33.540 left and right.

00:07:35.300 And that's what we have.

00:07:36.700 Yeah,

00:07:37.120 that's what we have.

00:07:38.080 That's exactly what we have.

00:07:39.700 I know.

00:07:39.980 What really,

00:07:41.080 again,

00:07:41.300 during the election campaign,

00:07:42.660 this truly,

00:07:43.800 it's hard to surprise me now.

00:07:46.160 I've been in the game too long, 1.00

00:07:47.860 soon seen too many stupid things, 0.99

00:07:49.720 but this truly surprised me 1.00

00:07:51.260 when Carney came out

00:07:52.420 and said,

00:07:53.120 I'm going to add more

00:07:55.400 to the debt

00:07:56.200 than Trudeau was planning to do.

00:07:58.840 Right.

00:07:59.440 That truly surprised me

00:08:01.020 because I thought

00:08:02.180 he was going to try

00:08:03.000 to take the tack of,

00:08:04.760 I'm the adult in the room.

00:08:06.200 I'm the one

00:08:06.940 that understands math.

00:08:08.160 I actually think of,

00:08:09.840 you know,

00:08:10.120 fiscal policy.

00:08:11.300 I know we can't grow

00:08:12.740 the economy

00:08:13.300 from the heart outwards.

00:08:14.500 I'm not going to show you

00:08:15.260 my socks.

00:08:16.580 I thought he was going

00:08:17.340 to be the kind of sober dude

00:08:18.960 of saying,

00:08:20.180 we got to get our books

00:08:21.000 back in order.

00:08:21.880 But no,

00:08:22.580 apparently the central banker

00:08:23.700 is going to be worse

00:08:24.640 with money

00:08:25.260 than the drama teacher.

00:08:26.560 That really surprised me.

00:08:28.660 And so I'm hoping

00:08:29.700 that he kind of,

00:08:31.660 you know,

00:08:32.440 mentally sobers up,

00:08:33.820 so to speak,

00:08:34.360 now that he's in the role

00:08:35.380 and looks around

00:08:36.420 is like,

00:08:36.800 I just can't stand

00:08:37.840 this inefficiency.

00:08:39.260 I'm not going

00:08:39.840 to do this anymore.

00:08:40.880 But so far,

00:08:41.720 we're not seeing it

00:08:42.460 because if he meant that,

00:08:43.640 we'd have a budget.

00:08:45.840 Right.

00:08:46.960 Right.

00:08:48.240 And speaking of

00:08:50.620 spending money

00:08:51.680 just, again,

00:08:54.460 with zero accountability,

00:08:56.040 it actually,

00:08:57.260 what chiefs of police

00:08:58.820 say will result

00:08:59.620 within zero

00:09:00.980 impact on violent crime.

00:09:05.020 We are seeing

00:09:05.740 the liberals

00:09:06.680 double,

00:09:08.020 triple,

00:09:08.520 quadruple down

00:09:09.560 on Justin Trudeau's

00:09:11.360 gun grab.

00:09:12.120 I knew this was coming

00:09:13.580 when they selected

00:09:15.320 Natalie Provo

00:09:16.420 from Polly Sissoufian

00:09:17.980 as their star candidate.

00:09:21.480 And so I knew

00:09:22.900 once you take someone

00:09:24.000 from Canada's

00:09:25.380 leading gun grab

00:09:27.180 organization

00:09:27.940 who quit

00:09:29.740 Trudeau's

00:09:30.400 gun grab panel

00:09:31.340 because it wasn't

00:09:32.020 grabbing Canadian 0.85

00:09:32.760 guns fast enough,

00:09:34.360 I knew

00:09:34.920 Canada's

00:09:37.480 firearms owning

00:09:38.280 community,

00:09:39.000 we were in

00:09:39.900 for an immediate

00:09:40.860 wild ride.

00:09:42.520 And from the

00:09:43.240 taxpayer's perspective,

00:09:44.540 whether or not

00:09:45.020 you own firearms,

00:09:46.360 you should care

00:09:47.980 about how your

00:09:48.920 money is being

00:09:49.600 spent with a

00:09:50.700 little to no

00:09:51.260 impact on rising

00:09:52.780 crime rates.

00:09:54.080 And it looks

00:09:55.580 like Trudeau's

00:09:57.540 gun grab,

00:09:58.380 which is now

00:09:58.860 Carney's gun

00:09:59.480 grab,

00:10:00.000 the cost is

00:10:00.820 going to be

00:10:01.160 approaching a

00:10:02.040 billion dollars

00:10:02.820 by the time

00:10:03.520 it's done.

00:10:04.340 I think it'll

00:10:04.800 be worse than

00:10:05.580 that,

00:10:06.540 with roughly

00:10:07.980 about a third

00:10:08.860 of a billion

00:10:09.480 dollars allocated

00:10:10.940 in the very

00:10:12.040 near future.

00:10:13.600 Yep.

00:10:15.040 It's one of

00:10:15.800 those things

00:10:16.300 where it feels

00:10:17.000 like,

00:10:17.520 what did they

00:10:17.880 say?

00:10:18.180 History doesn't 0.54

00:10:18.740 repeat itself,

00:10:19.440 but it does

00:10:19.820 rhyme.

00:10:20.580 Right.

00:10:21.420 It kind of

00:10:22.080 feels like that

00:10:22.860 in particular

00:10:23.600 with this gun

00:10:24.420 grab,

00:10:24.800 this confiscation,

00:10:25.680 people call it

00:10:26.660 the buyback.

00:10:27.340 I hear you.

00:10:28.000 I don't call it

00:10:28.500 a buyback either

00:10:29.160 because I did

00:10:29.800 not buy my

00:10:30.660 gun from the

00:10:31.300 government.

00:10:31.920 Right.

00:10:32.260 It is not the

00:10:32.760 government's

00:10:33.120 property.

00:10:33.580 Thank you very

00:10:33.980 much.

00:10:34.720 But the gun

00:10:35.420 grab,

00:10:35.960 it feels so

00:10:38.440 similar to the

00:10:39.760 long gun

00:10:40.120 registry.

00:10:40.840 Right.

00:10:41.660 So the so-called

00:10:42.740 long gun

00:10:43.200 registry for the

00:10:44.020 kids who are

00:10:44.440 watching and

00:10:45.020 good on you for

00:10:45.660 watching and

00:10:46.300 staying informed.

00:10:47.260 Please tell

00:10:47.680 your friends,

00:10:48.320 seriously spread

00:10:48.960 the word.

00:10:49.400 It's going to

00:10:49.660 be the young

00:10:50.040 people that save

00:10:50.780 us here.

00:10:51.520 Completely.

00:10:51.840 You know,

00:10:53.080 it's the gun

00:10:54.580 grab in the

00:10:55.120 1990s or the

00:10:56.320 long gun,

00:10:56.960 it was called

00:10:57.280 the long gun

00:10:57.880 registration.

00:10:59.300 And back then,

00:11:00.180 it was then also

00:11:01.160 a liberal

00:11:01.560 government.

00:11:02.160 It was under

00:11:02.520 then-liberal

00:11:03.160 prime minister

00:11:03.580 Jean Chrétien and

00:11:04.880 they had justice

00:11:05.880 and safety

00:11:06.360 ministers who

00:11:07.120 said,

00:11:07.580 we're going to

00:11:08.060 have a big

00:11:08.760 massive registry

00:11:09.720 of long guns.

00:11:10.940 Alan Rock.

00:11:11.820 Thank you,

00:11:12.560 Alan Rock.

00:11:13.160 Exactly.

00:11:14.780 And so,

00:11:15.600 again,

00:11:15.980 it was the

00:11:16.380 same level

00:11:17.000 of disconnect

00:11:17.620 between people

00:11:19.640 who actually

00:11:20.320 legally own

00:11:21.140 firearms and

00:11:22.100 use them as

00:11:22.860 the tools they

00:11:23.460 are versus

00:11:24.680 urbanites,

00:11:25.900 in this case,

00:11:26.680 Mr. Rock,

00:11:27.540 who don't

00:11:28.600 understand what

00:11:29.900 law-abiding

00:11:30.640 firearms owners

00:11:31.520 do and who

00:11:32.540 they are.

00:11:33.380 So what

00:11:33.760 happened is

00:11:34.400 they're like,

00:11:34.800 oh, we want

00:11:35.320 long guns

00:11:35.920 registered.

00:11:37.120 In this case,

00:11:37.780 for people who

00:11:38.460 don't know

00:11:38.860 guns, it 0.54

00:11:39.600 literally means

00:11:40.220 a long gun.

00:11:41.700 Right.

00:11:42.060 Not a handgun.

00:11:43.400 Not a handgun.

00:11:44.280 Anything but a

00:11:44.880 handgun.

00:11:45.660 Not handguns.

00:11:46.720 Not the ones

00:11:47.100 you see in the

00:11:47.560 movies with,

00:11:48.220 you know,

00:11:48.480 the cops and

00:11:48.980 robbers and

00:11:49.420 stuff.

00:11:49.660 No, like

00:11:50.320 rifles and

00:11:51.720 shotguns,

00:11:52.800 typically.

00:11:53.540 The ones that

00:11:54.460 ranchers would

00:11:55.180 keep on hand,

00:11:56.200 right, to deal

00:11:56.980 with pests and

00:11:58.400 also if they

00:11:59.020 ever needed to

00:11:59.580 put down a

00:12:00.100 suffering animal.

00:12:01.220 Also hunters,

00:12:02.420 if you're going

00:12:02.740 to go bag a

00:12:03.280 deer, you need

00:12:04.100 a rifle, usually

00:12:05.020 with a scope.

00:12:06.040 These are the

00:12:06.620 tools, okay, of

00:12:07.760 this trade.

00:12:09.060 The story goes,

00:12:10.420 they said, oh,

00:12:11.440 this is just

00:12:12.080 going to be one

00:12:12.700 of those simple

00:12:13.260 little things and

00:12:14.060 we're going to

00:12:14.360 get all the

00:12:14.780 farmers and

00:12:15.300 ranchers and

00:12:15.800 duck hunters to

00:12:16.600 write their name

00:12:17.320 and address and

00:12:18.320 which guns they

00:12:19.000 have on this

00:12:20.160 sheet of paper

00:12:21.080 and it's going

00:12:21.580 to be a

00:12:21.860 government

00:12:22.060 registry.

00:12:23.020 It's only

00:12:23.660 going to cost

00:12:24.440 around $2

00:12:25.180 million with

00:12:26.900 an M.

00:12:27.860 Fast forward,

00:12:29.320 nobody is

00:12:30.140 safer and

00:12:31.340 they wound up

00:12:31.940 spending close

00:12:32.600 to $2

00:12:33.240 billion.

00:12:35.880 For kids

00:12:36.760 keeping track

00:12:37.460 at home,

00:12:37.900 that's a

00:12:38.180 thousand times

00:12:38.860 more.

00:12:39.760 Like 30

00:12:40.180 years ago.

00:12:41.120 30 years

00:12:41.840 ago.

00:12:42.180 Imagine the

00:12:42.720 inflation.

00:12:43.100 I can't

00:12:43.660 even, I

00:12:44.080 don't want

00:12:44.340 to look.

00:12:45.420 And it

00:12:45.600 was one of 0.97

00:12:45.940 those silly

00:12:46.420 moments where

00:12:47.200 back then the

00:12:48.640 Reform Party

00:12:49.420 and then

00:12:50.620 eventually the

00:12:51.280 Canadian

00:12:51.600 Alliance were

00:12:52.700 all fighting

00:12:53.260 against it and

00:12:54.020 the Taxpayers

00:12:54.620 Federation, that's

00:12:55.520 when we got

00:12:55.940 really started in

00:12:56.740 1990.

00:12:57.840 This is one of

00:12:58.460 the things we

00:12:58.880 cut our teeth

00:12:59.360 on because we

00:13:00.220 said, you

00:13:00.880 know what,

00:13:01.580 this is not

00:13:02.120 going to make

00:13:02.480 people safer

00:13:03.100 because the

00:13:03.660 police say so.

00:13:05.120 And two,

00:13:05.600 you're going to

00:13:05.940 blow a ton of

00:13:06.540 money.

00:13:07.200 And they did.

00:13:07.800 That's exactly

00:13:08.280 what happened.

00:13:08.880 And now here

00:13:09.540 we are again.

00:13:11.180 Yeah.

00:13:11.500 And also

00:13:13.040 with a public

00:13:13.620 safety minister

00:13:14.320 who also has

00:13:15.160 no clue about

00:13:16.540 the law-abiding

00:13:17.460 firearms-owning

00:13:18.380 community, Gary

00:13:19.340 Anandasangari,

00:13:20.660 who has the

00:13:22.200 funnest name to

00:13:22.940 say, by the

00:13:23.620 way, has no

00:13:25.100 clue what the

00:13:27.400 licensing and

00:13:29.120 screening requirements

00:13:30.440 are for firearms

00:13:31.780 owners.

00:13:32.600 Our friend Andrew

00:13:33.560 Lawton, who is

00:13:34.840 now the MP in

00:13:36.500 London, well

00:13:37.260 deserved, I'm so

00:13:38.220 proud of him,

00:13:38.860 he really has

00:13:41.360 been an advocate

00:13:42.000 on this issue

00:13:42.640 for years

00:13:43.520 through his

00:13:43.980 journalism, and

00:13:44.600 now he's in the

00:13:45.160 House of Commons

00:13:45.980 fighting for the

00:13:47.220 law-abiding

00:13:47.820 firearms-owning

00:13:48.600 community, and

00:13:49.560 he exposed the

00:13:51.780 public safety

00:13:53.160 minister as

00:13:54.440 someone who has

00:13:55.240 absolutely no

00:13:56.020 clue about what

00:13:57.740 is required of

00:13:59.400 the firearms-owning

00:14:00.100 community to own

00:14:01.540 the firearms that

00:14:02.160 they have.

00:14:02.660 I think he just

00:14:03.500 thinks we could go

00:14:04.080 to Walmart and

00:14:04.820 just buy an

00:14:06.460 AR-15.

00:14:07.280 I think that's

00:14:07.780 how he thinks

00:14:08.200 it works.

00:14:08.860 I think so

00:14:09.700 too.

00:14:10.680 That, for folks

00:14:12.220 who haven't seen

00:14:13.060 it yet.

00:14:13.540 I'll show the

00:14:14.160 clip.

00:14:14.640 I'll show the

00:14:15.140 clip here.

00:14:16.000 Awesome.

00:14:16.560 ...have been

00:14:17.000 seized so far

00:14:18.000 under the

00:14:18.600 buyback

00:14:19.100 confiscation scheme.

00:14:20.840 The alma

00:14:21.080 minister.

00:14:21.900 A thousand.

00:14:23.380 The alma

00:14:24.000 member.

00:14:25.020 What was the

00:14:25.620 price per gun

00:14:26.580 that the

00:14:26.880 government paid

00:14:27.840 for these?

00:14:28.900 Minister.

00:14:29.900 I will be

00:14:30.180 able to get

00:14:30.500 back to my

00:14:31.320 colleague.

00:14:32.940 The alma

00:14:33.200 member.

00:14:33.480 How many

00:14:34.560 firearms does

00:14:35.760 the government

00:14:36.080 believe have

00:14:36.720 been prohibited

00:14:37.400 that will be

00:14:37.940 collected under

00:14:38.500 this confiscation

00:14:39.340 scheme?

00:14:40.100 Minister.

00:14:41.120 Anticipation is

00:14:41.800 about 179,000.

00:14:44.380 The honour

00:14:44.660 member.

00:14:45.940 Are all of

00:14:46.900 those firearms

00:14:47.460 semi-automatics?

00:14:48.640 The honour

00:14:48.920 minister.

00:14:50.340 I don't

00:14:50.840 believe so.

00:14:52.140 The honour

00:14:52.400 member.

00:14:53.420 What other

00:14:53.980 types of

00:14:54.420 firearms have

00:14:55.100 been banned

00:14:55.640 that the

00:14:56.020 government will

00:14:56.460 be seizing?

00:14:57.460 The honour

00:14:57.680 minister.

00:14:58.040 Those that

00:14:59.520 are scheduled

00:15:00.100 to be brought

00:15:02.440 back will

00:15:03.400 be removed.

00:15:04.860 I can't tell

00:15:05.280 you the specific

00:15:06.360 ones, but

00:15:07.200 they are in

00:15:08.380 the schedule.

00:15:09.380 The alma

00:15:09.520 member.

00:15:10.560 Does the

00:15:11.020 minister have

00:15:11.520 an RPAL?

00:15:12.960 The alma

00:15:13.400 minister.

00:15:16.380 Can you

00:15:16.980 repeat that

00:15:17.300 question?

00:15:18.240 The alma

00:15:18.460 member.

00:15:18.980 I'll

00:15:19.200 rephrase

00:15:19.620 the

00:15:19.700 chair.

00:15:19.900 Does the

00:15:20.140 minister know

00:15:20.540 what an

00:15:20.740 RPAL is?

00:15:21.900 The alma

00:15:22.100 minister.

00:15:22.940 I do

00:15:23.240 not.

00:15:24.320 The alma

00:15:24.600 member.

00:15:27.340 Does the

00:15:27.980 minister know

00:15:28.520 what the

00:15:28.920 CFSC is?

00:15:30.760 The alma

00:15:30.960 minister.

00:15:32.160 I do

00:15:32.720 not.

00:15:33.020 No.

00:15:33.640 Member.

00:15:34.780 I'll

00:15:35.000 stipulate,

00:15:35.540 chair, that

00:15:35.880 is the

00:15:36.160 Canadian's

00:15:36.700 firearm

00:15:37.020 safety course

00:15:37.740 that all

00:15:38.100 gun owners

00:15:38.500 in Canada

00:15:38.980 have to

00:15:39.360 do to

00:15:39.660 get their

00:15:39.960 firearms

00:15:40.380 license.

00:15:41.200 Has the

00:15:41.640 minister

00:15:41.820 ever done

00:15:42.280 the

00:15:42.420 Canadian

00:15:42.700 firearm

00:15:43.100 safety

00:15:43.440 course?

00:15:44.200 The

00:15:44.360 Hon.

00:15:44.440 Minister.

00:15:45.700 Speaker,

00:15:46.220 it's my

00:15:46.460 third week

00:15:46.940 on the

00:15:47.180 job.

00:15:47.600 No, I

00:15:47.860 have

00:15:48.020 not.

00:15:48.860 The

00:15:49.020 Hon.

00:15:49.140 Member.

00:15:50.340 Does the

00:15:50.940 minister know

00:15:51.420 what safety

00:15:52.080 classes and

00:15:52.900 safety

00:15:53.280 demands are

00:15:54.040 expected of

00:15:54.600 law-abiding

00:15:54.980 Canadian gun

00:15:55.580 owners?

00:15:55.860 This is

00:15:58.280 not about

00:15:58.720 law-abiding

00:15:59.280 gun

00:15:59.560 owners,

00:15:59.960 Mr.

00:16:00.160 Speaker.

00:16:00.980 The

00:16:01.260 Hon.

00:16:01.320 Member.

00:16:02.640 How can

00:16:03.060 the

00:16:03.160 minister make

00:16:03.580 that claim

00:16:04.000 when he

00:16:04.240 doesn't know

00:16:04.600 the basic

00:16:05.200 fundamentals of

00:16:06.080 law-abiding

00:16:06.500 gun

00:16:06.700 ownership in

00:16:07.180 this country,

00:16:07.740 Chair?

00:16:08.420 The

00:16:08.700 Hon.

00:16:08.840 Minister.

00:16:10.960 Mr.

00:16:11.600 Speaker,

00:16:12.200 the Bill

00:16:12.640 21 is

00:16:13.520 meant to

00:16:13.980 get serious

00:16:16.160 dangerous

00:16:17.060 weapons

00:16:17.580 off our

00:16:18.360 streets.

00:16:19.700 The

00:16:19.940 Hon.

00:16:20.040 Member,

00:16:20.460 very briefly

00:16:20.940 I'm just

00:16:21.260 confirming that

00:16:21.720 he's splitting

00:16:22.060 his time

00:16:22.380 three ways.

00:16:23.380 Chair,

00:16:23.740 will the

00:16:23.980 minister commit

00:16:24.600 to taking

00:16:25.120 the Canadian

00:16:25.620 Firearm Safety

00:16:26.360 Corps so

00:16:26.800 he'll know

00:16:27.120 what he's

00:16:27.380 talking about?

00:16:28.580 I'm a

00:16:28.920 minister.

00:16:29.940 Mr.

00:16:30.220 Speaker,

00:16:30.540 I do not

00:16:31.020 intend to

00:16:31.980 purchase a

00:16:32.680 firearm or

00:16:33.220 use a

00:16:33.560 firearm.

00:16:34.840 Brilliant.

00:16:35.780 Absolutely

00:16:36.260 brilliant.

00:16:36.980 If Lawton

00:16:37.520 keeps that

00:16:38.000 going,

00:16:38.640 then this is

00:16:39.120 going to be

00:16:39.400 a good

00:16:39.620 session.

00:16:40.320 Because we

00:16:41.400 need to

00:16:41.840 show that

00:16:43.000 these ministers

00:16:44.400 either know

00:16:46.240 or don't know

00:16:46.940 what they're

00:16:47.220 doing.

00:16:48.020 They either

00:16:48.420 know or

00:16:48.860 they don't

00:16:49.140 know what

00:16:49.360 they're

00:16:49.460 talking about.

00:16:50.320 This is

00:16:50.700 part of

00:16:50.960 accountable

00:16:51.280 government.

00:16:52.480 And when

00:16:52.740 you have a

00:16:53.260 minister in

00:16:53.780 charge of a

00:16:54.780 massive

00:16:55.440 confiscation of

00:16:56.420 private property,

00:16:57.540 especially from

00:16:58.540 one of the

00:16:59.260 most strict

00:17:00.140 law-abiding

00:17:00.840 communities in

00:17:02.000 Canada,

00:17:02.620 gun owners are 0.64

00:17:03.960 uptight.

00:17:05.040 We follow

00:17:05.520 rules.

00:17:05.840 Very.

00:17:06.620 Big time.

00:17:08.160 And for this

00:17:09.020 minister just to

00:17:09.880 be floundering

00:17:10.720 around not

00:17:11.500 having a 0.81

00:17:12.120 schmick about 0.92

00:17:13.240 how this works

00:17:14.160 is surprising.

00:17:15.820 For folks who

00:17:16.480 don't have their

00:17:17.100 firearms licenses,

00:17:18.660 you have to

00:17:19.400 have a full

00:17:19.920 background check.

00:17:21.280 They phone your

00:17:22.180 spouse.

00:17:23.280 They'll phone

00:17:23.880 your exes.

00:17:25.420 You have to

00:17:26.140 yeah, like for

00:17:27.560 real.

00:17:28.240 This is just

00:17:29.040 for like

00:17:29.760 unrestricted.

00:17:31.600 So long

00:17:32.020 guns, like

00:17:32.460 owning a

00:17:32.860 regular shotgun.

00:17:34.220 You have to

00:17:34.680 go in for a

00:17:35.400 special course.

00:17:36.620 Mine was being

00:17:37.420 taught by a

00:17:38.540 former military

00:17:39.180 and RCMP

00:17:39.820 dude, super

00:17:40.460 nice student in

00:17:41.380 Nova Scotia.

00:17:42.580 You have to be

00:17:43.680 really good at

00:17:44.420 it.

00:17:44.940 There's no

00:17:45.440 participation

00:17:46.160 ribbons in

00:17:46.960 this.

00:17:47.540 You have to

00:17:47.960 pass that thing

00:17:48.600 with flying

00:17:49.020 colors.

00:17:49.920 There's rules

00:17:50.500 about where you

00:17:51.060 have to store

00:17:51.620 your ammo.

00:17:52.520 There's rules

00:17:53.000 about how you

00:17:53.540 have to store

00:17:54.000 your firearm.

00:17:54.780 Like you can't

00:17:55.600 just throw it in

00:17:56.120 your truck.

00:17:56.740 Like there are

00:17:57.680 so many rules

00:17:58.840 around these

00:17:59.560 things.

00:17:59.960 And you go to

00:18:00.560 jail if you

00:18:01.740 get it wrong.

00:18:02.880 Yes.

00:18:04.420 It's one of

00:18:05.060 those things

00:18:05.440 where you don't

00:18:05.900 just get a

00:18:06.300 ticket.

00:18:06.640 You're going

00:18:07.020 to prison.

00:18:08.160 Right.

00:18:08.380 So people are

00:18:09.180 very careful

00:18:10.040 with this stuff.

00:18:11.180 And if you

00:18:11.520 want to get

00:18:11.860 into handguns,

00:18:12.680 which you can't

00:18:13.220 now, things are

00:18:13.940 such a mess right

00:18:14.740 now between this

00:18:15.440 government and

00:18:16.120 firearms owners,

00:18:17.340 you have to be

00:18:18.320 able to allow

00:18:18.900 law enforcement to

00:18:19.860 enter your

00:18:20.240 home.

00:18:21.060 Like at any

00:18:21.600 time, if you're

00:18:22.700 a handgun

00:18:23.040 owner.

00:18:23.740 Like these are

00:18:24.540 serious things.

00:18:26.080 And to have

00:18:26.520 this minister just

00:18:27.460 not knowing the

00:18:29.240 foggiest thing

00:18:30.020 about it is

00:18:31.080 disappointing.

00:18:32.000 And it isn't

00:18:32.440 just, I must

00:18:33.140 say, it's not

00:18:34.620 just the individual

00:18:35.900 firearms owners.

00:18:36.840 That's bad

00:18:37.280 enough.

00:18:37.900 And how much

00:18:38.700 they're going to

00:18:39.220 spend on this

00:18:39.780 thing.

00:18:40.060 Again, without

00:18:41.080 making people

00:18:42.160 safer, according

00:18:43.720 to the police,

00:18:44.840 the police say

00:18:45.760 that we shouldn't

00:18:46.660 be spending money

00:18:47.340 on this because

00:18:47.880 it won't

00:18:48.180 help.

00:18:49.140 It's also the

00:18:50.160 businesses.

00:18:51.720 Yes, they have

00:18:52.500 stranded assets.

00:18:53.980 This is it.

00:18:54.960 This is it.

00:18:55.480 I'll never forget,

00:18:56.400 I was speaking to

00:18:57.220 a lady right in 0.99

00:18:58.280 the, you know,

00:18:58.980 teeth of the

00:18:59.440 lockdown.

00:18:59.880 I was up in

00:19:00.460 Prince George and

00:19:01.680 she was running

00:19:02.320 this amazing

00:19:03.180 business.

00:19:04.300 This, this mom,

00:19:05.280 mama, I think she

00:19:06.140 had five or six

00:19:06.840 kids.

00:19:07.200 She was amazing.

00:19:08.460 And they, they

00:19:09.740 had to, they

00:19:10.280 had to close.

00:19:11.000 They had to close

00:19:11.880 because she had so

00:19:13.000 many stranded

00:19:13.800 assets that were

00:19:15.100 locked up that she

00:19:16.380 could not move.

00:19:17.500 She could not

00:19:18.340 sell.

00:19:19.100 She, they still 0.92

00:19:20.060 didn't know what

00:19:20.580 they were doing

00:19:21.100 even with the

00:19:21.680 so-called buyback,

00:19:22.660 meaning she couldn't

00:19:23.380 even get compensation

00:19:24.260 at the time, even

00:19:25.440 if she had wanted

00:19:26.220 to with the

00:19:26.860 government.

00:19:27.320 It just strangled

00:19:29.000 her business.

00:19:30.480 I have no idea

00:19:30.980 what she's doing 0.81

00:19:31.440 now, but she was,

00:19:32.900 she was doing so

00:19:33.660 well.

00:19:34.080 It was a community

00:19:34.780 hub.

00:19:35.320 They were doing

00:19:35.720 lessons with

00:19:36.380 people like,

00:19:37.000 and so it

00:19:38.340 isn't just the

00:19:38.940 individual firearms

00:19:39.780 owners, it's

00:19:40.620 businesses, small

00:19:41.800 locally owned

00:19:42.480 businesses that

00:19:43.480 have been there

00:19:43.940 in cases for

00:19:44.620 decades that have

00:19:46.040 been wrecked by

00:19:46.540 this and it's

00:19:47.260 not right.

00:19:48.940 Well, and then

00:19:49.260 there's Canadian

00:19:49.800 firearms manufacturers

00:19:51.020 who made, uh,

00:19:53.740 small runs of

00:19:55.560 an AR-15 and

00:19:58.240 that was all that

00:19:59.000 they manufactured.

00:20:00.240 Uh, the government

00:20:01.100 just put them out

00:20:01.700 of business with

00:20:02.500 the stroke of a

00:20:03.080 pen.

00:20:03.720 Um, and, um,

00:20:06.140 and think

00:20:06.920 about it and

00:20:08.080 the minister

00:20:08.700 responsible for

00:20:10.600 putting you out

00:20:11.340 of business, the

00:20:13.120 minister responsible

00:20:14.200 for gun laws has

00:20:15.680 no idea what the

00:20:16.660 gun laws are, but

00:20:18.320 he knows for sure

00:20:19.840 that you're just

00:20:20.480 not following them.

00:20:22.080 Which is, again,

00:20:23.480 for folks who are

00:20:24.460 listening who have

00:20:25.220 friends and family

00:20:26.220 who aren't in, like,

00:20:27.180 the gun world, um,

00:20:28.420 imagine that this

00:20:29.300 was your truck

00:20:30.000 instead.

00:20:30.680 Right.

00:20:31.400 Imagine that it was

00:20:32.320 your chainsaw, a

00:20:33.440 tool that you rely

00:20:34.500 upon, um, imagine

00:20:36.320 that it was that

00:20:36.980 instead.

00:20:37.340 Or if you're really,

00:20:38.580 if you're a sports

00:20:39.200 shooter, imagine all

00:20:41.100 of a sudden the

00:20:42.420 government coming

00:20:43.040 forward and saying,

00:20:43.860 okay, we're literally

00:20:44.760 confiscating your

00:20:45.780 snowmobile, your

00:20:46.620 skis, your poles, 1.00

00:20:47.700 you're not allowed to

00:20:48.340 have these anymore.

00:20:49.540 Right.

00:20:49.980 And I'm just doing

00:20:50.460 that as a thought

00:20:51.000 process because this

00:20:51.960 is a private property

00:20:52.880 issue as well.

00:20:54.180 Exactly.

00:20:54.580 Like, when do you

00:20:55.340 give the state the

00:20:56.180 right to seize

00:20:56.960 property from law

00:20:58.300 abiding peaceful

00:20:59.140 people?

00:21:00.300 Do you really want

00:21:01.160 to go down that

00:21:01.700 route?

00:21:02.420 And again, this is

00:21:03.660 going to cost a ton

00:21:04.420 of money and it is

00:21:05.580 the police forces,

00:21:07.400 the frontline guys

00:21:08.500 who are saying this

00:21:10.060 is not where the

00:21:10.640 problem is.

00:21:11.400 The problem is, is

00:21:12.480 with illegal handguns

00:21:13.440 coming across the

00:21:14.120 border and they say

00:21:15.680 the fact that they

00:21:16.460 can't keep bad guys

00:21:17.520 in jail, no matter

00:21:18.800 how many times they

00:21:19.700 catch them.

00:21:20.840 Yes.

00:21:21.560 Yeah.

00:21:21.960 Because from what I

00:21:23.040 can see on the news,

00:21:24.300 they're actually kind

00:21:25.400 of good at catching

00:21:25.980 them.

00:21:26.780 They keep getting

00:21:27.880 back out of jail.

00:21:28.840 This is it.

00:21:30.500 And then committing

00:21:31.780 crimes while they

00:21:33.400 are on bail.

00:21:34.500 Yes.

00:21:35.160 Over and over and

00:21:36.080 over again.

00:21:36.680 And we're not

00:21:37.220 talking about new

00:21:37.820 laws.

00:21:38.220 We have enough

00:21:38.740 laws on the

00:21:39.200 books.

00:21:39.640 Right.

00:21:40.080 All the police are

00:21:40.960 saying is how

00:21:41.660 about we enforce

00:21:42.820 the ones that are

00:21:43.680 already here and

00:21:45.800 start backing off on

00:21:47.180 some of these folks.

00:21:48.060 And again, here in

00:21:48.640 Alberta, Premier

00:21:50.060 Daniel Smith has

00:21:50.940 instructed, saying

00:21:52.620 we don't want to be

00:21:53.620 spending precious

00:21:54.520 taxpayer dollars

00:21:55.420 provincially for

00:21:56.780 police to go door

00:21:57.840 to door, ranch

00:21:58.660 to ranch, saying

00:21:59.460 hi, I'm here to

00:22:00.280 seize your

00:22:00.600 property.

00:22:01.180 Like, and I

00:22:01.820 don't know any

00:22:02.460 frontline police

00:22:03.260 officer that is

00:22:04.340 keen to be doing

00:22:04.940 that.

00:22:05.540 Like, this is just

00:22:06.720 it should be a

00:22:07.460 non-issue, but

00:22:08.500 unfortunately it

00:22:09.380 looks like they're

00:22:09.820 going to be trying

00:22:10.320 to plow ahead with

00:22:11.040 this.

00:22:11.320 But good on

00:22:11.740 Andrew Lawton for

00:22:12.420 exposing that.

00:22:13.160 Yeah.

00:22:13.640 Yeah.

00:22:14.080 Andrew Lawton is

00:22:15.060 going to continue

00:22:15.760 to make some of

00:22:16.520 these liberals look

00:22:17.260 like absolute 1.00

00:22:17.860 idiots. 1.00

00:22:18.240 And I'm just, I'm 1.00

00:22:19.260 here for it.

00:22:21.140 Now, moving ahead,

00:22:23.560 the Provincial

00:22:25.800 Finance Minister's

00:22:27.220 report cards are

00:22:28.940 out.

00:22:29.920 Alberta did okay-ish,

00:22:31.700 not excellent, but

00:22:32.640 okay-ish, passing

00:22:34.140 grade.

00:22:35.540 Yeah.

00:22:36.360 So, our Finance

00:22:37.740 Minister here is

00:22:38.540 Nate Horner, and he

00:22:40.020 got a B, which, I

00:22:41.520 mean, we're kind of

00:22:42.880 tough here at the

00:22:43.980 CTF, the Taxpayers

00:22:45.400 Federation.

00:22:46.340 We want you to

00:22:46.880 balance the budget, we

00:22:47.720 want you to pay down

00:22:48.320 the debt, we want

00:22:49.040 lower taxes, we want

00:22:50.020 smaller government, all

00:22:50.960 of that.

00:22:51.280 And, yeah, he came

00:22:52.480 in second.

00:22:53.500 So, he got a B, in

00:22:54.900 Saskatchewan, the

00:22:55.700 Finance Minister there

00:22:56.620 got a B plus.

00:22:58.120 And that's because

00:22:59.180 technically, as of

00:23:00.780 right now, on June,

00:23:03.040 you know, 10th or

00:23:04.000 whatever it is, their

00:23:05.400 budget is balanced, and

00:23:07.500 the reason why I'm

00:23:08.100 putting a little

00:23:08.680 asterisk on that is

00:23:09.660 because apparently

00:23:10.880 they were being very

00:23:12.880 hopeful in their

00:23:13.760 estimations coming up

00:23:15.000 to their next

00:23:15.560 quarterly update, and

00:23:16.920 maybe a little bit

00:23:17.600 too hopeful with how

00:23:18.600 much resource revenue

00:23:19.500 they were going to

00:23:19.940 be getting, but we'll

00:23:20.680 see.

00:23:21.280 So, as of right

00:23:22.480 now, here in

00:23:23.260 Alberta, we started

00:23:25.200 off the year paying

00:23:26.140 down some debt, but

00:23:27.600 now we're going to

00:23:28.360 reverse that and

00:23:29.480 start adding more to

00:23:30.760 the debt.

00:23:31.700 So, our budget is not

00:23:32.880 balanced in Alberta.

00:23:34.280 It pains me to say

00:23:35.620 that, and we are

00:23:37.080 going to be borrowing

00:23:37.920 more than 5 billion

00:23:39.460 extra dollars, heaping

00:23:41.680 more money onto that

00:23:43.340 debt.

00:23:44.340 Yeah.

00:23:44.520 And the reason why

00:23:45.300 that's a problem, of

00:23:46.140 course, is because we're

00:23:47.380 charged interest on that

00:23:49.020 debt.

00:23:49.300 It's the same as if you

00:23:51.100 had a line of credit or

00:23:52.320 a credit card as an

00:23:53.260 individual.

00:23:54.160 The government is in the

00:23:55.380 same boat.

00:23:56.540 And so, we are blowing

00:23:57.640 close to 3 billion

00:24:00.020 dollars every year just on

00:24:02.800 debt interest payments.

00:24:04.160 I did the math.

00:24:04.920 I think it works out.

00:24:06.180 What's that?

00:24:07.020 Three hospitals worth.

00:24:08.360 Three hospitals.

00:24:08.980 I think it's like 8

00:24:10.880 million dollars a day.

00:24:13.900 Isn't that awful?

00:24:15.260 I know.

00:24:15.840 Like, it's bad, bad.

00:24:17.620 And so, this is where

00:24:18.240 we're like, okay, this is

00:24:19.380 how I put it out.

00:24:20.260 And this is coming out in

00:24:21.280 the, hopefully, the

00:24:22.600 Calgary sound in the next

00:24:23.480 few days.

00:24:25.020 I'll give it to you this

00:24:25.780 way.

00:24:27.300 Premier Daniel Smith is

00:24:28.380 doing an amazing job

00:24:30.000 fighting the powers that

00:24:32.080 be in Ottawa and trying to

00:24:35.100 stay ahead of whatever

00:24:36.700 circus is happening in

00:24:38.800 D.C.

00:24:39.520 Right.

00:24:39.800 I don't even know

00:24:40.440 anymore.

00:24:41.080 I'm just innocent

00:24:43.280 bystander.

00:24:44.920 That's on fire.

00:24:46.540 I'm just going to stay

00:24:48.000 over here now.

00:24:49.080 So, Smith is doing a

00:24:50.220 great job trying to

00:24:52.000 tackle both of those

00:24:52.920 things, trying to

00:24:53.620 wrestle both those

00:24:54.360 steers.

00:24:55.580 However, here in

00:24:57.480 Alberta, we have to be

00:24:59.260 Fortress Alberta.

00:25:00.460 Right.

00:25:00.900 At home.

00:25:01.840 So, imagine, you

00:25:03.360 know, I liken her in the

00:25:04.640 article to Sarah Connor,

00:25:06.080 who is like one of

00:25:06.680 my favorite, you

00:25:07.840 know, movie

00:25:08.260 characters of all

00:25:08.860 time.

00:25:09.960 Imagine if in T2, she

00:25:12.560 hadn't had all that

00:25:13.760 ammo stored.

00:25:15.020 Right.

00:25:15.520 Imagine if she didn't

00:25:16.440 have the gas masks

00:25:17.420 ready.

00:25:17.800 Imagine if she wasn't

00:25:18.800 ready.

00:25:19.820 So, she's tough, she's

00:25:21.440 courageous, all of

00:25:22.360 those great things.

00:25:23.240 She's a fighter, but 1.00

00:25:24.480 she hadn't done the

00:25:25.600 planning and made sure

00:25:27.320 that her team was

00:25:28.340 strong.

00:25:29.160 That's what we have to

00:25:30.200 have here in Alberta.

00:25:31.800 Because if Alberta is

00:25:32.980 not balancing its

00:25:33.720 budget, if Alberta is

00:25:34.720 not paying down the

00:25:35.460 debt, if Alberta is

00:25:36.380 making sure that our

00:25:37.140 fiscal, isn't making

00:25:37.940 sure our fiscal house is

00:25:38.740 in order, what the

00:25:39.880 other province is going

00:25:40.820 to do.

00:25:41.500 Where are people going

00:25:42.360 to come to, right, for

00:25:44.300 that kind of fiscal

00:25:45.200 stability?

00:25:46.380 And from fiscal

00:25:47.400 stability, I will add,

00:25:49.320 comes things like more

00:25:50.320 freedom because you have

00:25:51.900 smaller government, which

00:25:54.080 is what we need is

00:25:54.960 smaller government.

00:25:56.740 And so that is why we

00:25:57.600 are urging through this

00:25:59.020 report card system of,

00:26:00.220 yeah, you're doing a

00:26:00.780 very good job in the

00:26:01.660 sense that you did a big

00:26:02.560 income tax cut that was

00:26:04.060 outstanding.

00:26:05.320 Super happy with that.

00:26:07.080 And taxpayer protection,

00:26:08.660 again, good job.

00:26:10.600 But our spending increased

00:26:12.460 year over year by more

00:26:14.380 than 8%.

00:26:15.600 Sheila, that was second 1.00

00:26:18.120 only to Prince Edward

00:26:19.380 Island.

00:26:21.120 Yuck.

00:26:22.080 Yeah.

00:26:22.620 Like, yeah, I'm

00:26:23.740 cringing.

00:26:24.340 Like, I don't want to hear

00:26:25.460 that.

00:26:25.800 And yes, I know it's

00:26:27.260 technically within the

00:26:28.220 rules because they have a

00:26:29.660 rule of inflation plus

00:26:30.760 population, but it was

00:26:32.380 within, like, 0.01%

00:26:34.900 here, girl. 0.67

00:26:35.600 Yeah.

00:26:36.040 Like, not good enough.

00:26:37.480 And so this is where we're

00:26:38.480 encouraging them, you got

00:26:40.160 a B, but we want you to

00:26:42.040 pull your socks up and get

00:26:43.240 an A.

00:26:43.880 So that's where we're at

00:26:44.720 right now in Alberta.

00:26:45.860 Yeah, right.

00:26:46.420 We need to be conservative

00:26:47.440 in our spending.

00:26:48.780 Yes.

00:26:49.300 That's a nice way of

00:26:50.180 putting it.

00:26:51.120 Right?

00:26:53.760 Speaking of not being

00:26:54.880 conservative in their

00:26:55.980 spending, CBC, which

00:26:58.400 claims to be stricken

00:27:00.660 with poverty, but

00:27:02.960 receives about a

00:27:04.460 billion and a half

00:27:05.820 dollars in subsidy

00:27:07.140 per year, plus, you

00:27:09.140 know, those government

00:27:09.760 contracts for all the

00:27:10.720 government of Canada

00:27:11.740 advertising, plus they

00:27:13.740 rake in private sector

00:27:15.340 advertising.

00:27:17.080 Their new CEO, who is

00:27:20.040 replacing the outgoing

00:27:21.220 personal muse of mine,

00:27:23.640 Catherine Tate, their

00:27:27.220 new boss, same as the

00:27:30.400 old boss, sounds like.

00:27:31.580 Yes, exactly.

00:27:33.480 And so I like doing a

00:27:36.240 little bit of guerrilla

00:27:36.940 training for, like,

00:27:38.200 independent journalists

00:27:39.060 who watch the show.

00:27:41.440 So a good way to go

00:27:43.020 figure out how much

00:27:44.800 these people are being

00:27:45.720 paid is to look up

00:27:47.380 something called orders

00:27:48.360 and counsel.

00:27:49.860 Okay?

00:27:50.480 It's a government

00:27:51.220 website.

00:27:51.960 It's basically where they

00:27:52.940 announce, you know,

00:27:54.020 appointments.

00:27:54.460 And in this case, it

00:27:56.780 was announced that the

00:27:57.760 replacement for

00:27:58.640 Catherine Tate is going

00:28:00.660 to be at the same

00:28:02.120 level, same CEO level

00:28:05.920 as Tate.

00:28:07.240 The reason why that

00:28:08.540 matters is because the

00:28:09.780 way the federal

00:28:10.340 government does their

00:28:11.800 pay is they have a

00:28:13.360 grid system.

00:28:14.480 Right.

00:28:14.600 Okay?

00:28:15.120 And so what you do is

00:28:16.780 you look up, look up

00:28:18.620 CEO Crown Corporation

00:28:20.540 Canada grid, and it'll

00:28:23.400 show you, so the new

00:28:25.500 boss is CEO level seven.

00:28:28.260 That's the same that

00:28:29.580 Catherine Tate was.

00:28:30.960 All that is to say, the

00:28:32.900 new boss is also getting

00:28:34.680 paid about half a million

00:28:36.680 dollars.

00:28:38.140 Jeez. 0.84

00:28:38.480 Like, it's disgusting.

00:28:40.260 It is more than the 0.91

00:28:41.380 prime minister, regardless

00:28:42.300 of how you feel about the

00:28:43.300 person, more than

00:28:44.520 cabinet ministers.

00:28:45.920 I think it's closing in

00:28:47.500 on the U.S.

00:28:48.440 president's salary.

00:28:49.860 Like, of the entire

00:28:51.140 country?

00:28:52.260 Yeah.

00:28:52.660 One little bureaucrat

00:28:53.800 who's the head of our

00:28:54.860 state broadcaster is

00:28:56.400 getting paid around

00:28:57.920 $500,000 a year.

00:29:01.200 Plus perks, for sure.

00:29:02.960 So this is where it gets

00:29:04.220 frustrating, because we

00:29:06.140 had all of these folks

00:29:07.800 saying, you know what,

00:29:08.960 that's too much money.

00:29:10.580 We want to see CBC, you

00:29:12.280 know, read the room,

00:29:14.000 realize that 50% of

00:29:15.580 Canadians are fighting to

00:29:16.620 afford basics right now.

00:29:18.000 They're tapped out.

00:29:18.800 They're taxed out.

00:29:19.780 This is too large.

00:29:20.940 Too large.

00:29:22.140 Right?

00:29:22.740 Trim it back.

00:29:23.260 Yeah.

00:29:23.800 And they didn't.

00:29:24.640 They hired her at exactly

00:29:25.760 the same level.

00:29:27.080 Well, and regardless of

00:29:29.160 what you...

00:29:29.660 Okay, look.

00:29:31.160 I think it's clear.

00:29:32.820 I think the CBC should

00:29:34.420 sink or swim on its own.

00:29:35.620 I believe that that is

00:29:36.540 your position, too.

00:29:37.480 I see it behind you

00:29:38.420 there.

00:29:40.420 But let's even take my

00:29:42.680 political leanings out of

00:29:44.460 the mix for a second.

00:29:47.080 This is the CEO of a

00:29:50.540 failing company by every

00:29:53.080 single metric.

00:29:54.580 It's a TV station nobody

00:29:56.440 watches.

00:29:57.660 Yes.

00:29:57.980 Quite literally.

00:29:58.880 They are a statistical

00:29:59.820 rounding error of Canadian

00:30:01.360 grandparents who don't

00:30:02.480 know how to use their

00:30:03.160 remote control.

00:30:04.120 They're watching the six

00:30:05.800 o'clock news at this

00:30:06.780 point, if indeed your

00:30:08.160 region even has a six

00:30:09.980 o'clock news broadcast

00:30:10.880 anymore, because they

00:30:11.820 basically all but

00:30:12.860 eliminated those.

00:30:13.740 Their flagship show is

00:30:16.300 Unwatchable, Bias, and 1.00

00:30:17.920 Unwatched.

00:30:20.500 They just don't provide

00:30:24.300 the service to Canadians

00:30:26.440 that they are supposed to

00:30:28.140 provide and that Canadians

00:30:29.840 want.

00:30:30.200 This is a failing company.

00:30:32.220 Should a failing company's

00:30:34.400 CEO be making this money?

00:30:36.180 Particularly if the

00:30:38.000 shareholders, us, don't

00:30:40.380 like it.

00:30:41.520 No.

00:30:41.880 Great point.

00:30:42.460 I'm pulling up my phone

00:30:44.380 right now just to give you

00:30:46.480 the exact latest one on

00:30:48.220 how much, how many people

00:30:49.600 are actually watching it

00:30:50.600 here.

00:30:51.320 All right.

00:30:51.840 So in their latest

00:30:53.080 quarterly report from the

00:30:54.700 CBC itself, okay, their

00:30:57.020 latest quarterly report,

00:30:58.560 they have an audience share

00:31:00.240 of 1.8%.

00:31:02.940 What that means is, of Canadians who

00:31:07.140 were available to be watching TV at

00:31:09.360 that time, 98% of Canadians were

00:31:13.240 choosing to watch something else.

00:31:16.100 Yeah.

00:31:16.220 And again, this is CBC News World

00:31:18.300 primetime.

00:31:18.980 They're in every house in the country

00:31:21.280 too, by the way.

00:31:22.160 Like this is, you don't have a choice.

00:31:24.000 This is shoved onto your TV, whether you

00:31:26.660 want it or not.

00:31:27.720 They are mandatory carriage, whether

00:31:29.540 you're just got antennas or cable or

00:31:32.400 satellite.

00:31:33.060 This is in every home in the country and

00:31:36.100 very few networks can say that.

00:31:38.740 Yeah.

00:31:39.260 They're mandated, so to speak.

00:31:41.200 Yeah.

00:31:41.520 Yeah.

00:31:41.720 The CBC is mandated and still nobody

00:31:44.520 is watching them or close to nobody.

00:31:46.620 And again, I will point out, so the

00:31:48.400 new CEO of the CBC is Marie-Philippe

00:31:51.600 Bouchard.

00:31:52.540 She started her new role right at the

00:31:54.580 change of the new year after Tate left

00:31:56.540 off and her pay, the official pay 0.99

00:31:59.460 salary for this scale is between

00:32:01.580 $478,300 and $562,700.

00:32:07.920 Now, technically also entitled to a

00:32:11.840 bonus of up to 28% of that.

00:32:15.440 Oh my goodness.

00:32:16.480 Which is amazing.

00:32:17.920 I think it's over, I think that alone

00:32:19.440 is over $150,000.

00:32:21.360 Now, this is the, laugh or cry, it's

00:32:24.200 kind of the funny part.

00:32:25.600 The CBC said, oh, we hear you.

00:32:27.900 We're listening.

00:32:28.840 We're getting rid of bonuses.

00:32:31.040 Yeah, but they're just going to jack up

00:32:32.620 the salaries.

00:32:33.440 Exactly.

00:32:34.420 Right.

00:32:35.560 Again, this.

00:32:36.500 At least it's truth in advertising

00:32:39.040 because before they were calling them

00:32:40.660 performance bonuses and everyone was

00:32:42.780 like, including me, but you're not

00:32:44.980 performing.

00:32:45.800 So they're like, okay, we'll just call

00:32:47.140 it a salary.

00:32:48.300 Exactly.

00:32:48.900 And they're just going to go back to

00:32:49.840 salary.

00:32:50.400 And again, this, sorry to be like

00:32:52.160 Debbie Downer here, but this is on

00:32:54.520 top of the fact that Prime Minister

00:32:56.460 Mark Carney, okay, is going to give

00:32:59.020 them even more money.

00:33:01.140 I can't get over, as a journalist my

00:33:03.520 entire life, I can't get over the,

00:33:06.080 the scene during the election.

00:33:08.860 Yeah.

00:33:09.200 So like, just picture it here, folks.

00:33:12.320 Candidate A, the red team candidate

00:33:14.400 and candidate B, the blue team

00:33:16.360 candidate.

00:33:17.520 Candidate A says, hey, CBC, I'm going

00:33:21.660 to give you more money.

00:33:23.620 Here you go.

00:33:24.900 And then the CBC goes and covers this

00:33:27.500 as news.

00:33:28.680 Yeah.

00:33:28.840 I saw it at the debate first.

00:33:30.100 Like, this, this, this conflict of

00:33:34.500 interest is so big, it is casting a

00:33:37.300 shadow on Godzilla.

00:33:38.720 Right.

00:33:39.520 Like, everybody can see this thing.

00:33:41.540 Yes.

00:33:41.980 And like, candidate B, the blue guy

00:33:44.640 says, I'm going to cut your funding.

00:33:46.920 Right.

00:33:47.820 How is that?

00:33:49.480 This is it.

00:33:50.300 How is that reporter supposed to call

00:33:52.800 that straight?

00:33:53.760 You can't.

00:33:54.800 It is an inherent conflict of interest,

00:33:56.540 which is an illustration as to why

00:33:58.760 journalists should not be paid by the

00:34:01.180 government.

00:34:02.020 Right.

00:34:02.960 Again, so just an update for folks on the

00:34:05.060 CBC.

00:34:05.680 A, they're going to be getting more money.

00:34:07.300 B, the new CEO, same as the old CEO.

00:34:10.040 And C, they're getting rid of bonuses,

00:34:12.380 but they're just going to increase their

00:34:13.960 pay.

00:34:14.660 Yes, we're going to find out by how much.

00:34:17.040 Oh, good gracious.

00:34:18.420 Now, last thing, you know, last thing I

00:34:20.960 just want to touch on, um, as we're

00:34:22.540 recording this Tuesday morning, this news

00:34:24.440 just broke.

00:34:25.680 Um, and it's funny because I read the

00:34:28.200 same report as the rest of the

00:34:29.700 journalists, but I'm the only one who

00:34:31.100 found this one thing and I'm sure they

00:34:33.320 saw it.

00:34:33.860 They just didn't want to report it.

00:34:35.600 GC Strategies, the company behind the

00:34:37.900 flawed Arrive Can app that sent 10,000

00:34:40.700 people into quarantine erroneously, um,

00:34:44.460 which is a $60 million contract to create

00:34:48.660 an app that was recreated over a weekend

00:34:50.900 by a bunch of just nerds, benevolent nerds,

00:34:55.440 not the sinister kind, tech bro kids, uh, for

00:34:59.060 about $50,000.

00:35:01.580 Um, the auditor general report is out on

00:35:05.400 this today and I'm asking you about this

00:35:07.000 or just, we're going to talk about it

00:35:08.420 real quick, uh, because well, you're the

00:35:11.280 CTF. So $93 million in no bid contracts, uh,

00:35:16.760 between 2015 and 2024 GC Strategies, a two

00:35:20.340 man company run by Christian Firth and

00:35:22.700 Darren Anthony secured 106 federal

00:35:24.860 contracts across 31 departments. Total

00:35:27.560 value 93 million. Most were awarded

00:35:30.460 without competition. So sole source

00:35:33.080 contracts and GC Strategies. They don't

00:35:35.600 build tech. They're basically a pass

00:35:38.120 through. They outsource the work, mark

00:35:40.780 up the invoices, and then they send the

00:35:42.880 bill to the taxpayer. Uh, the auditor

00:35:45.520 general's findings were 82% of the sole

00:35:48.620 source contracts had no price validation. So

00:35:50.940 they didn't know if they were within the

00:35:53.240 realm of what the market could bear. 21%

00:35:56.760 lacked proof of required security

00:35:59.820 clearances. 87 of these contracts were

00:36:03.160 split into small amounts to avoid

00:36:06.160 oversight rules so that to make sure that

00:36:08.000 they didn't have to go to, um, mandatory

00:36:10.620 tender. Um, and then, uh, department, it

00:36:16.300 wasn't just the CBSA. So the CBSA was into

00:36:19.300 these guys for 59 or 49 million treasury

00:36:22.420 board, 10 million innovation, innovation

00:36:24.440 Canada, 10 million national defense. And

00:36:27.060 remember, I just said that they didn't

00:36:28.380 have the proper security clearances, almost

00:36:30.940 4 million. And here's the one that I

00:36:33.240 thought was kind of, uh, interesting. It's

00:36:35.800 not the biggest, but CBC was into these

00:36:39.560 guys for $12,000. Now, never once in years

00:36:43.900 now of reporting on the Arrive Can GC's

00:36:47.340 strategies scandal, did CBC ever divulge

00:36:52.080 that they had a contract with these guys? Not

00:36:55.440 even once. I've never heard them declare

00:36:57.940 that, no. No, and nobody else declared it

00:37:00.300 either. So all the journalists in the

00:37:01.780 mainstream media who were funded by the

00:37:03.300 government had the same report that I had

00:37:05.320 today. And they just sort of skimmed over

00:37:08.000 CBC being into this up to their elbows.

00:37:10.860 Holy smokes. And again, I started off our

00:37:14.340 conversation talking about history rhyming.

00:37:16.860 This is what the Accountability Act was

00:37:18.960 supposed to be for. Right. So for, you

00:37:22.000 know, younger people, there was a huge

00:37:23.840 thing that, you know, eventually did bring

00:37:25.500 down the Kretchen-Martin government. Yep. And

00:37:27.740 that was called, um, ad scam, right? Or the

00:37:30.540 sponsorship scandal. Yeah. Um, long story

00:37:33.460 short, uh, it was in the wake of the near

00:37:36.020 miss referendum where Quebec wanted to get

00:37:38.020 out of here. And then basically the federal

00:37:40.000 government backed up the dump truck full of

00:37:41.740 money and said, we're going to give you tons

00:37:44.100 and tons of taxpayers dollars. The problem is

00:37:46.860 in areas around Quebec, they weren't

00:37:49.280 accountable for it. Meaning there weren't

00:37:51.560 receipts, there weren't paper trails. Auditor

00:37:54.020 general looked at this over and over again and

00:37:56.200 said, whoa, like this is not okay. Which then

00:37:59.660 prompted new prime minister, Stephen Harper

00:38:02.340 to pass the Accountability Act. So that

00:38:05.640 included things like what you just mentioned

00:38:07.860 there, limits on how much you can sole source

00:38:11.760 before putting it out to tender. But if it

00:38:14.880 now is shown that they're purposefully breaking

00:38:17.440 it down into small increments to avoid, like

00:38:19.400 this is not okay. This is absolutely not okay.

00:38:23.040 It doesn't matter what, you know, brand of

00:38:26.060 government is in there. No, this is what

00:38:27.740 accountability is for because all of this is

00:38:30.280 your money. You guys, all of this is taxpayers

00:38:32.940 money. Like picture the people who are

00:38:35.560 struggling in your neighborhood or when you're

00:38:37.500 watching them at the grocery store, put stuff

00:38:39.240 back. Like, I'm sorry, this makes me really

00:38:42.140 mad because this, the auditor general found

00:38:47.920 that there was no e-procurement system. There

00:38:51.720 were no fraud risk tools used and no

00:38:54.980 enforcement of the existing rules. So this

00:38:57.280 isn't even about adding extra rules, which

00:39:00.140 normally I'm against, but I feel like we

00:39:01.760 probably should here because it protects the

00:39:04.380 taxpayer. But even the ones that are on the

00:39:06.220 books, nobody was following.

00:39:08.360 This is it. Gets back to what we were saying

00:39:10.200 about the police saying, just keep the bad

00:39:11.900 guys in jail. We don't need, probably don't

00:39:13.860 need new laws. We just need the laws that are

00:39:16.400 currently there to be followed. And again, this

00:39:19.420 is, this gets back to government being in for

00:39:22.840 a while and then getting this sense of

00:39:25.200 entitlement and this Teflon sort of coating

00:39:28.120 that Trudeau had on him. Yep. My one little

00:39:31.500 glimmer of hope here, because a colleague of

00:39:35.420 mine just said something, not a colleague, but

00:39:37.220 a, like a caller called the office. How did he

00:39:40.420 put it? I'm not optimistic, but I'm trying to

00:39:43.060 be hopeful. Right. Which was a nice way of

00:39:45.620 putting it. Yeah. I don't want to be a doomer, but

00:39:47.800 this isn't good. Yeah. It's not good. Um, and so

00:39:51.620 my little bit of hope to offer people here is

00:39:55.060 that I do, I think that Trudeau as a personality

00:40:01.600 prime minister was a phenomenon. And I don't

00:40:06.400 mean that in either a positive nor a negative

00:40:09.080 light. Right. I mean, as an individual, he was

00:40:13.380 exceptional because of who he was. Right. He

00:40:16.080 was kind of a celebrity. He was a famous name.

00:40:19.680 Um, people thought he was, you know, the, the

00:40:21.720 media kind of treated him like the cool kid in

00:40:23.700 class. So he was not your garden variety

00:40:27.140 politician. Right. I'll put it that way. Similar

00:40:29.640 in a sense that, you know, um, U S president

00:40:32.080 Donald Trump is a specific type of person, right?

00:40:36.180 Yeah. He's not coming up through the

00:40:37.480 bureaucratic ranks. My hope here in saying all

00:40:40.680 this is stuff didn't stick to Trudeau. He was

00:40:44.280 Teflon. He could say the most outrageously

00:40:46.340 stupid things. Like you should prioritize paying 1.00

00:40:49.220 your carbon tax, my carbon tax over feeding

00:40:51.420 your kids and pay rent and people shrug their

00:40:54.740 shoulders. Like, you know, they keep like flick his

00:40:57.020 hair and show his sock and everyone would be

00:40:58.740 like, Ooh, swoon. I know it was like, am I on

00:41:02.480 crazy pills here? I know. Like it was crazy. And

00:41:05.620 so I think that chapter is over. I hope I'm not

00:41:11.860 expecting Dr. Mark Carney flashing his socks at

00:41:16.360 people. I'm hoping that there is that, that getting

00:41:20.940 back to what we were saying, that calculator

00:41:23.220 abacus, you know, minding the beans and counting

00:41:26.120 them mentality in there that is like, Nope, you're

00:41:29.560 going to wear a suit to work and you're going to

00:41:31.620 show up on time. And I hope that this means it's a

00:41:35.280 change within this own government of

00:41:37.600 accountability. And we need to get back to, you

00:41:40.060 know, where you got to show your receipts.

00:41:42.660 Yeah. Mark Carney has the charisma of one of those

00:41:45.840 vacuum cleaner robots.

00:41:50.080 Don't take this away from me, Sheila. I'm still

00:41:52.340 clinging to hope that he's efficient. Really? And

00:41:56.280 like, let's get, let's come back to there. I want

00:41:58.500 me, what is it? Make politicians boring again.

00:42:00.680 Yes. Boring and accountable. Take me back to

00:42:04.340 Stephen Harper. Boring and accountable. Yeah. My

00:42:07.880 problem with Mark Carney is the last time he had an

00:42:10.680 expense account at the Bank of England, he blew right

00:42:14.760 through it. And then he and his wife complained that it

00:42:16.940 wasn't large enough for them. So I'm already filled with

00:42:19.940 dread and trepidation. On that dark note, Chris, how do

00:42:24.220 people get involved with the Canadian Taxpayers

00:42:27.320 Federation? Because you provide a bit of a community for

00:42:31.760 people who are looking for ways to stand up and have their

00:42:35.160 voices heard. Amen. And it's the best part of the job. And

00:42:39.160 it's the best part of Taxpayers Federation, actually. So folks

00:42:42.560 can go to our website, taxpayer.com, click on the

00:42:46.280 petitions tab. And this is where it's important because it's

00:42:49.400 kind of like you're signing up for a certain battalion, okay, of

00:42:54.040 which part of the armed forces, the taxpayer armed forces you want to

00:42:58.040 join here. And basically pick something that speaks to you. If you

00:43:02.040 want to cancel the gun grab, sign that petition. If you want to defund the media,

00:43:07.640 something near and dear to both of our hearts, sign that petition. I think my,

00:43:12.040 you know, little petition to get rid of sales tax on thrift shop items is

00:43:15.480 still there. It's important. It's important. It is important. Stop taxing poor

00:43:19.480 people. Quit being absolute demons. Awful. Right. So things like that, right? Sign those 0.99

00:43:25.800 petitions. And then the next time that issue comes up, so when they're, for example, not

00:43:30.480 balancing the budget or they're seizing firearms or they're giving the media more

00:43:35.120 money, you'll get like an action update alert email saying, okay, it's time to

00:43:39.840 everybody email your minister at once. Everybody phone your local MP. Everybody

00:43:44.480 get out and come to, you know, we're, we're having a teddies event or handing out

00:43:47.600 golden pig statues. Everybody come out. So it's kind of a community where then you

00:43:53.040 actually speak truth to power and we chat with you. We answer all of our emails

00:43:58.000 personally. Okay. And I know you do. I can vote for that. I know you do.

00:44:03.200 It's just a really good way. It's a sense of, I get a sense of fellowship out of it.

00:44:07.920 And I think it matters to feel that you're not alone. So, so, and we get results. So

00:44:12.800 remember back when the government was going to increase the capital gains tax

00:44:16.960 without going through parliament? Well, we took action. We were taking them to court,

00:44:21.120 court, like fighting them in court. They backed off that like a burning building.

00:44:25.600 So we do get results. The carbon tax, carbon tax, right? Yes. I know they're plotting a new one.

00:44:32.880 Yes. I know the industrial carbon tax, but I don't know about you, Sheila, my gas is still 20 cents

00:44:38.160 cheaper than it was. That's serious savings. So, and that was a long fight. So we win the fights,

00:44:45.440 but we also have a good time and we connect with people while we're doing it. So thank you for

00:44:49.520 letting me do my Ted talk there. Happy warriors. Chris, thank you so much for coming on the show.

00:44:54.640 Thank you so much for being my friend and a good friend to taxpayers. And we'll have you back on

00:44:59.840 again very soon. Thank you, Sheila.

00:45:01.920 As always, I turn over the last segment of the show to you because without you, there's no rebel news.

00:45:16.000 So I want to know what you think about the work that we do here. If you want to get in touch with

00:45:21.040 me directly, you can send me an email. It's Sheila at rebel news.com put gun show letters in the subject 1.00

00:45:27.200 line. So I know why you're emailing me, but also if you are watching and or sharing free clips of the

00:45:34.800 show with your friends to introduce them to rebel news, plus, um, encourage them to leave comments

00:45:43.680 on our work, um, because it helps us get higher on the algorithm, uh, because our work is engaged with

00:45:52.800 and the algorithms like work that's engaged with and commented on. And so it serves it up to more

00:46:01.360 people so that more people can discover the work that we do here at rebel news. And perhaps ultimately

00:46:07.200 one day become a subscriber and supporter of the work that we do here. So that is why sometimes I

00:46:13.040 go looking for the comments over on YouTube or on rumble. I want to know what those people think too,

00:46:19.360 because they're commenting and even the hate comments help us, um, be viewed and consumed

00:46:27.200 more by people. Now, many of you know that last week I went to the UK for less than 24 hours.

00:46:38.160 It took me 18 hours to get there. And then I was on the ground for a little bit over that. And then

00:46:42.480 another 18 hours to get back because I was covering a court hearing of citizen journalists and activist

00:46:49.680 Tommy Robinson, Cole's notes version of the court hearing. He has been charged with, uh, harassment,

00:46:58.720 criminal harassment. Now you won't even believe this. He was on vacation with his kids in Cyprus

00:47:06.880 out of the country, out of the prying eye of the UK paparazzi. And he was with his children. I want to

00:47:16.480 reiterate with his children. Two Daily Mail journalists followed him to Cyprus and took pictures of him

00:47:24.960 with his children. Instead of physically attacking him like them, like what a lot of dads might do if

00:47:32.720 weirdos, uh, were taking pictures of their children. Tommy turned the camera on them. He took their pictures

00:47:40.560 and then he published their names. And so that according to the UK police amounts to criminal

00:47:50.320 harassment. Now it was the first hearing where Tommy entered a plea of not guilty. I went there to

00:48:00.720 hear about Tommy's conditions. If he would be released because it's always a miracle when Tommy

00:48:06.960 goes to court and isn't taken directly into custody. Now they did release him. They released him with some

00:48:11.600 pretty strict conditions. He can't talk about the case. He can't name the journalists involved.

00:48:16.000 Um, you can't name the judge involved, the prosecutors, anything. He is basically completely gagged.

00:48:22.640 But before he was gagged, I met him at a coffee shop and we had a little chat about why he was in court.

00:48:32.880 And, uh, I gave him the ability to talk about something he knew he wouldn't be able to talk about in

00:48:43.120 quite literally under an hour after our conversation. And so let's hear what you have to say about that

00:48:49.920 interview. Toby Reed 59. No, sorry. Toby Reed 529 says, as a survivor of something similar to the

00:48:57.120 grooming gangs, Tommy is my hero. I followed his story from the start and I can honestly say I've

00:49:02.240 seen nothing to warrant him going to jail. To be honest, the reporter prosecuting Tommy is actually

00:49:07.520 causing me harm and worry that this court case will set our country back years. My family are

00:49:12.880 scared and afraid as well. What's the reporter's name, please? I feel a lawsuit coming on up.

00:49:18.400 The names are out there. You can find them. They work for the Daily Mail. Um, but I'm, I can't name them.

00:49:28.480 If you watch my subsequent reporting at tommyreports.com, you'll see the conditions

00:49:35.360 listed and the names are thus protected right now.

00:49:42.400 John Lemon 1863 says they've made Tommy stronger than ever. Yeah, I think so. I think more people know

00:49:48.480 about him than ever before. It's the Streisand effect. Do you know the Streisand effect? Uh,

00:49:57.200 Barbara Streisand once objected to a photo of her palatial home being published,

00:50:06.560 which only caused people to want to look at the photo of her palatial home even more. And that's

00:50:13.360 what they're doing to Tommy. The more they censor him, the more people want to know what's so bad

00:50:19.280 that they have to censor him. And then they realize that what he is saying is true, but inconvenient

00:50:29.360 and difficult to the establishment. The real rant room says it's never ending. What a joke. They're

00:50:36.640 throwing anything that sticks. Yeah, absolutely true. They're trying anything. I mean, if you watch

00:50:44.000 that interview with Tommy, he says that he was recharged, like charged like hours after getting

00:50:55.200 out of jail where he was in, uh, where he was being held for civil contempt of court for publishing a

00:51:04.080 documentary about grooming gangs. And he had been in there for months and months and they just can't

00:51:13.280 have Tommy walk in the streets, can they? Being public enemy number one of the establishment. And so

00:51:21.760 he's out. They picked him right back up. These charges stem from August of 2024. They had him for

00:51:28.720 seven months. They could have charged him at any point. Uh, but the idea was to charge him and

00:51:34.160 hopefully he would thus go back to jail and not be released on conditions, but shocking, shocking to

00:51:39.280 even myself, they did release him. Uh, and, uh, Jeff three, Tom, seven, 10 says, well done, dude.

00:51:50.080 John Shank 251 says you're one hell of a man that you are doing so proud to support you. If only by writing.

00:51:58.720 Yeah. William Keith 8740 says love rebel news supporting rational thinkers and patriots.

00:52:09.120 Uh, I think you must support the truth, right? And sometimes you can't change the injustice in

00:52:20.880 front of you, but alone. But if you talk about it, if you show people it, maybe, maybe you'll make a

00:52:29.600 difference. Maybe you'll change hearts and minds, but maybe you won't, but at least it's better than

00:52:34.800 nothing. And just standing by sort of saying like, it's just little old me. What can I do?

00:52:42.240 You could talk about it, tell everybody, you know, about it. And sometimes that's,

00:52:49.920 that's better than nothing. And sometimes that's as effective as anything. Okay. Well,

00:52:56.000 everybody, that's the show for today. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here

00:53:00.640 in the same time, in the same place next week. It might not be in the same place. I don't know what

00:53:04.720 I'm doing next week. I shouldn't make those promises. But as I always say, don't let the government

00:53:11.280 tell you that you've had too much to think.

Rebel News Podcast - June 12, 2025

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Ottawa's spending spree without a budget—with Kris Sims

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