Rebel News Podcast - June 12, 2025


SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Ottawa's spending spree without a budget—with Kris Sims


Episode Stats

Length

53 minutes

Words per Minute

161.49553

Word Count

8,623

Sentence Count

732

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

8


Summary

The Trudeau Liberals are spending like drunken sailors, but they forgot one small thing: a federal budget. On today's show, we're going to be also unpacking how the provincial finance ministers are faring. Then we'll talk about the Auditor General's takedown of GC Strategies, the shadowy firm at the heart of the Arrive Can scandal, and the appointment of CBC's new president Chris Sims.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Feel like Ottawa's got its boot on Alberta's neck?
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00:00:36.300 The Kearney Liberals are spending like drunken sailors,
00:00:38.480 but they forgot one small thing.
00:00:39.980 Oh, a federal budget.
00:00:41.400 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show.
00:00:58.380 Hart Kearney's brand-new government has committed
00:01:03.860 to spending tens of billions of dollars
00:01:06.560 on everything from meeting their NATO commitments,
00:01:10.080 finally, to a national gun confiscation program.
00:01:13.260 And they're doing it all without tabling a budget,
00:01:15.180 and we won't see one until late 2025.
00:01:18.100 That's not just reckless, it's unprecedented,
00:01:20.980 and it lacks complete and total transparency.
00:01:25.300 I think it violates the taxpayer trust.
00:01:28.120 On today's show, we're going to be also unpacking
00:01:30.660 how the provincial finance ministers are faring.
00:01:34.580 The Canadian Taxpayers Federation
00:01:35.860 has just issued their report cards.
00:01:38.920 Don't you want to know how Alberta did?
00:01:41.180 Then we'll talk about the Auditor General's
00:01:44.260 takedown of GC Strategies,
00:01:46.680 the shadowy firm at the heart of the Arrive Can scandal,
00:01:49.980 and the appointment of CBC's new president.
00:01:55.260 Chris Sims joins the show tonight.
00:01:57.320 She's the Alberta Director of the Taxpayers Federation.
00:02:00.440 In an interview we recorded yesterday morning.
00:02:03.400 Take a listen.
00:02:11.380 So joining me now is good friend of the show,
00:02:14.140 my personal good friend,
00:02:15.940 and good friend to taxpayers everywhere,
00:02:17.420 Chris Sims, the Alberta Director
00:02:18.860 of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
00:02:21.360 Chris, I wanted to have you on today
00:02:23.800 to talk about the macro issue
00:02:26.040 and then sort of the micro issue
00:02:28.380 of finances in this country.
00:02:32.480 And right off the top,
00:02:35.220 we aren't getting a budget anytime soon
00:02:38.560 from our new Prime Minister,
00:02:40.720 who is allegedly a finance guy.
00:02:42.240 And, by the way, sorry to interrupt,
00:02:45.180 all the same people.
00:02:46.560 So it's not like they have to figure out
00:02:48.220 how to learn on the job
00:02:49.520 before they get a budget going.
00:02:53.100 These are quite literally all the same people
00:02:54.860 from Justin Trudeau's cabinet.
00:02:56.220 So get to work, guys.
00:02:58.320 Yeah, exactly.
00:02:59.180 I love how you said sorry to interrupt
00:03:00.580 and it was talking to yourself.
00:03:02.620 That was my favorite part.
00:03:04.140 This is a mess.
00:03:07.140 Straight up, I know that
00:03:08.880 if there are still normies watching,
00:03:11.100 hello, interesting people watching.
00:03:13.700 If there are still normies watching,
00:03:15.700 it can be understandable
00:03:16.960 when you're like,
00:03:17.940 okay, he's new to the job.
00:03:20.680 Like, the physical human of Mark Carney
00:03:23.340 is new to the role of Prime Minister.
00:03:26.120 Okay, sure.
00:03:27.320 That's fine.
00:03:29.080 Dude also has a PhD in economics from Oxford.
00:03:32.060 He was also a central banker,
00:03:34.420 head of the Bank of Canada,
00:03:35.400 head of the Bank of England.
00:03:36.580 So he's been around an abacus before.
00:03:39.020 Okay, he knows the maths.
00:03:41.180 That said, you're right.
00:03:43.560 Wasn't he also the financial advisor
00:03:48.000 to the leader of the Liberal Party of Canada,
00:03:50.400 who by default is also the Prime Minister
00:03:52.380 of this country, for five years?
00:03:54.560 So it's not like he's like
00:03:55.660 just opening up the books for the first time.
00:03:58.760 He's the keeper of the books.
00:04:00.580 Yes, exactly.
00:04:01.380 And furthermore,
00:04:03.380 he's just the figurehead.
00:04:06.000 It is not Mark Carney
00:04:07.660 sitting up at night,
00:04:08.980 sharpening his pencil,
00:04:10.340 writing out the budget.
00:04:11.780 Further, it's not even the Cabinet Minister
00:04:14.460 with this clown car
00:04:16.060 of the same Cabinet Ministers
00:04:17.360 who are now paid
00:04:18.560 more than $300,000 per year plus perks.
00:04:21.400 It's the bureaucrats.
00:04:23.580 Right.
00:04:24.400 It's the same bureaucrats
00:04:26.680 within the Department of Treasury
00:04:28.440 and within the Department of Finance.
00:04:31.220 This is their entire job
00:04:33.340 to keep a running tally
00:04:35.400 of all of these columns.
00:04:37.260 So there are the ones that work out
00:04:39.700 all of the revenue by source,
00:04:42.220 okay,
00:04:42.780 all of the expense by function,
00:04:45.220 which is basically what a budget is.
00:04:47.320 You don't need to shove a whole bunch of,
00:04:48.880 you know,
00:04:49.640 social words in there.
00:04:51.000 It's really straight up.
00:04:52.500 How much money are we taking in
00:04:54.280 and from what sources?
00:04:55.720 How much money are we dishing out
00:04:57.660 and to whom?
00:04:59.220 That's it.
00:05:00.060 That's essentially what a budget is.
00:05:01.740 And you also need to figure out
00:05:03.200 if you've got a deficit,
00:05:04.420 how much that's adding to the debt.
00:05:06.160 And you need to calculate
00:05:07.400 your debt interest payments.
00:05:09.340 So it's kind of like
00:05:10.160 the big country credit card.
00:05:11.960 That's it.
00:05:12.640 That's a budget.
00:05:13.760 And so, yeah,
00:05:15.180 the pointy heads,
00:05:16.440 the smart kids
00:05:17.140 with the pocket protectors,
00:05:18.340 and I know there are some
00:05:19.220 in there in finance,
00:05:20.180 okay,
00:05:20.340 they got all this data.
00:05:22.420 They have all of this.
00:05:24.100 So, yes,
00:05:25.440 the short answer is
00:05:26.440 could they put out a budget?
00:05:27.900 Yes, they could.
00:05:29.280 Would it be as flowery
00:05:30.900 and fluffy
00:05:31.780 as, say,
00:05:32.980 a throne speech
00:05:33.940 and all of the little hopes
00:05:35.180 and pixie dust dreams
00:05:36.200 shoved into it?
00:05:37.240 No,
00:05:37.880 that takes a little while to write,
00:05:39.680 but you don't need
00:05:40.740 that stuff in there.
00:05:41.980 What we need
00:05:42.620 is a fiscal document.
00:05:44.680 That's all we need.
00:05:45.940 And unfortunately,
00:05:46.880 we're going to have to now
00:05:47.900 wait until the fall
00:05:49.100 to get it.
00:05:51.260 And that's crazy
00:05:52.200 because they're making
00:05:52.860 these wild spending
00:05:54.240 announcements right now.
00:05:55.400 And look,
00:05:55.740 I'm not one to say
00:05:57.380 that we shouldn't be meeting
00:05:59.760 our NATO spending commitments.
00:06:01.440 Of all the spending
00:06:02.240 the government does,
00:06:02.940 that's one of them
00:06:03.600 that I think is probably okay.
00:06:05.440 But they're making
00:06:06.260 these spending announcements
00:06:07.520 without a budget.
00:06:09.820 And these are billions
00:06:10.760 and billions of dollars
00:06:12.120 worth of spending announcements
00:06:13.660 without telling Canadians
00:06:16.040 where the money's coming from
00:06:18.080 and where it is actually going
00:06:19.380 at the end of the day.
00:06:20.340 Yeah,
00:06:20.960 it reminds me,
00:06:22.640 I don't like bringing
00:06:23.780 this time up,
00:06:24.460 but I'm going to keep
00:06:25.080 bringing it up
00:06:25.580 because nobody's been
00:06:26.480 held accountable for it.
00:06:27.700 It reminds me of back
00:06:29.140 in early 2020s time,
00:06:31.100 just as we're in lockdown.
00:06:32.700 Remember when the federal
00:06:33.860 government tried to say,
00:06:35.480 oh yeah,
00:06:36.000 and by the way,
00:06:36.740 we're not going to put out
00:06:37.780 a budget like ever again
00:06:39.240 and we're just going to spend
00:06:40.540 as much as we want
00:06:41.480 with no representation
00:06:43.100 in parliament?
00:06:44.120 Bye,
00:06:44.520 thank you.
00:06:45.220 They tried pulling that.
00:06:47.460 Right.
00:06:47.760 Like the feds tried pulling that.
00:06:50.040 Basically,
00:06:51.000 grant us unfettered spending power,
00:06:54.720 please,
00:06:55.240 parliament,
00:06:56.020 with no checks and balances.
00:06:57.920 Thank goodness cooler heads prevailed
00:06:59.720 and were like,
00:07:00.400 um,
00:07:00.660 no,
00:07:00.960 how about we don't actually
00:07:02.380 all jump off a cliff?
00:07:03.600 They still wound up
00:07:04.700 blowing a ton of money
00:07:05.940 and being terribly unaccountable
00:07:08.820 during that time,
00:07:09.840 but they actually tried
00:07:11.240 pulling that fast one.
00:07:13.020 So this is why
00:07:14.020 no matter what color
00:07:15.360 the jersey is,
00:07:16.440 if it's a red government
00:07:17.680 or a blue government,
00:07:18.460 it doesn't matter.
00:07:19.460 You need to stay on these folks
00:07:21.320 like white on rice
00:07:22.300 and say,
00:07:23.160 nope,
00:07:23.560 we need that fiscal document.
00:07:25.460 We need a budget.
00:07:26.580 You need to table it.
00:07:27.920 We need to be able to examine it
00:07:29.340 because otherwise
00:07:30.120 you wind up with
00:07:31.000 an unaccountable government
00:07:32.100 that is blowing money
00:07:33.540 left and right.
00:07:35.300 And that's what we have.
00:07:36.700 Yeah,
00:07:37.120 that's what we have.
00:07:38.080 That's exactly what we have.
00:07:39.700 I know.
00:07:39.980 What really,
00:07:41.080 again,
00:07:41.300 during the election campaign,
00:07:42.660 this truly,
00:07:43.800 it's hard to surprise me now.
00:07:46.160 I've been in the game too long,
00:07:47.860 soon seen too many stupid things,
00:07:49.720 but this truly surprised me
00:07:51.260 when Carney came out
00:07:52.420 and said,
00:07:53.120 I'm going to add more
00:07:55.400 to the debt
00:07:56.200 than Trudeau was planning to do.
00:07:58.840 Right.
00:07:59.440 That truly surprised me
00:08:01.020 because I thought
00:08:02.180 he was going to try
00:08:03.000 to take the tack of,
00:08:04.760 I'm the adult in the room.
00:08:06.200 I'm the one
00:08:06.940 that understands math.
00:08:08.160 I actually think of,
00:08:09.840 you know,
00:08:10.120 fiscal policy.
00:08:11.300 I know we can't grow
00:08:12.740 the economy
00:08:13.300 from the heart outwards.
00:08:14.500 I'm not going to show you
00:08:15.260 my socks.
00:08:16.580 I thought he was going
00:08:17.340 to be the kind of sober dude
00:08:18.960 of saying,
00:08:20.180 we got to get our books
00:08:21.000 back in order.
00:08:21.880 But no,
00:08:22.580 apparently the central banker
00:08:23.700 is going to be worse
00:08:24.640 with money
00:08:25.260 than the drama teacher.
00:08:26.560 That really surprised me.
00:08:28.660 And so I'm hoping
00:08:29.700 that he kind of,
00:08:31.660 you know,
00:08:32.440 mentally sobers up,
00:08:33.820 so to speak,
00:08:34.360 now that he's in the role
00:08:35.380 and looks around
00:08:36.420 is like,
00:08:36.800 I just can't stand
00:08:37.840 this inefficiency.
00:08:39.260 I'm not going
00:08:39.840 to do this anymore.
00:08:40.880 But so far,
00:08:41.720 we're not seeing it
00:08:42.460 because if he meant that,
00:08:43.640 we'd have a budget.
00:08:45.840 Right.
00:08:46.960 Right.
00:08:48.240 And speaking of
00:08:50.620 spending money
00:08:51.680 just, again,
00:08:54.460 with zero accountability,
00:08:56.040 it actually,
00:08:57.260 what chiefs of police
00:08:58.820 say will result
00:08:59.620 within zero
00:09:00.980 impact on violent crime.
00:09:05.020 We are seeing
00:09:05.740 the liberals
00:09:06.680 double,
00:09:08.020 triple,
00:09:08.520 quadruple down
00:09:09.560 on Justin Trudeau's
00:09:11.360 gun grab.
00:09:12.120 I knew this was coming
00:09:13.580 when they selected
00:09:15.320 Natalie Provo
00:09:16.420 from Polly Sissoufian
00:09:17.980 as their star candidate.
00:09:21.480 And so I knew
00:09:22.900 once you take someone
00:09:24.000 from Canada's
00:09:25.380 leading gun grab
00:09:27.180 organization
00:09:27.940 who quit
00:09:29.740 Trudeau's
00:09:30.400 gun grab panel
00:09:31.340 because it wasn't
00:09:32.020 grabbing Canadian
00:09:32.760 guns fast enough,
00:09:34.360 I knew
00:09:34.920 Canada's
00:09:37.480 firearms owning
00:09:38.280 community,
00:09:39.000 we were in
00:09:39.900 for an immediate
00:09:40.860 wild ride.
00:09:42.520 And from the
00:09:43.240 taxpayer's perspective,
00:09:44.540 whether or not
00:09:45.020 you own firearms,
00:09:46.360 you should care
00:09:47.980 about how your
00:09:48.920 money is being
00:09:49.600 spent with a
00:09:50.700 little to no
00:09:51.260 impact on rising
00:09:52.780 crime rates.
00:09:54.080 And it looks
00:09:55.580 like Trudeau's
00:09:57.540 gun grab,
00:09:58.380 which is now
00:09:58.860 Carney's gun
00:09:59.480 grab,
00:10:00.000 the cost is
00:10:00.820 going to be
00:10:01.160 approaching a
00:10:02.040 billion dollars
00:10:02.820 by the time
00:10:03.520 it's done.
00:10:04.340 I think it'll
00:10:04.800 be worse than
00:10:05.580 that,
00:10:06.540 with roughly
00:10:07.980 about a third
00:10:08.860 of a billion
00:10:09.480 dollars allocated
00:10:10.940 in the very
00:10:12.040 near future.
00:10:13.600 Yep.
00:10:15.040 It's one of
00:10:15.800 those things
00:10:16.300 where it feels
00:10:17.000 like,
00:10:17.520 what did they
00:10:17.880 say?
00:10:18.180 History doesn't
00:10:18.740 repeat itself,
00:10:19.440 but it does
00:10:19.820 rhyme.
00:10:20.580 Right.
00:10:21.420 It kind of
00:10:22.080 feels like that
00:10:22.860 in particular
00:10:23.600 with this gun
00:10:24.420 grab,
00:10:24.800 this confiscation,
00:10:25.680 people call it
00:10:26.660 the buyback.
00:10:27.340 I hear you.
00:10:28.000 I don't call it
00:10:28.500 a buyback either
00:10:29.160 because I did
00:10:29.800 not buy my
00:10:30.660 gun from the
00:10:31.300 government.
00:10:31.920 Right.
00:10:32.260 It is not the
00:10:32.760 government's
00:10:33.120 property.
00:10:33.580 Thank you very
00:10:33.980 much.
00:10:34.720 But the gun
00:10:35.420 grab,
00:10:35.960 it feels so
00:10:38.440 similar to the
00:10:39.760 long gun
00:10:40.120 registry.
00:10:40.840 Right.
00:10:41.660 So the so-called
00:10:42.740 long gun
00:10:43.200 registry for the
00:10:44.020 kids who are
00:10:44.440 watching and
00:10:45.020 good on you for
00:10:45.660 watching and
00:10:46.300 staying informed.
00:10:47.260 Please tell
00:10:47.680 your friends,
00:10:48.320 seriously spread
00:10:48.960 the word.
00:10:49.400 It's going to
00:10:49.660 be the young
00:10:50.040 people that save
00:10:50.780 us here.
00:10:51.520 Completely.
00:10:51.840 You know,
00:10:53.080 it's the gun
00:10:54.580 grab in the
00:10:55.120 1990s or the
00:10:56.320 long gun,
00:10:56.960 it was called
00:10:57.280 the long gun
00:10:57.880 registration.
00:10:59.300 And back then,
00:11:00.180 it was then also
00:11:01.160 a liberal
00:11:01.560 government.
00:11:02.160 It was under
00:11:02.520 then-liberal
00:11:03.160 prime minister
00:11:03.580 Jean Chrétien and
00:11:04.880 they had justice
00:11:05.880 and safety
00:11:06.360 ministers who
00:11:07.120 said,
00:11:07.580 we're going to
00:11:08.060 have a big
00:11:08.760 massive registry
00:11:09.720 of long guns.
00:11:10.940 Alan Rock.
00:11:11.820 Thank you,
00:11:12.560 Alan Rock.
00:11:13.160 Exactly.
00:11:14.780 And so,
00:11:15.600 again,
00:11:15.980 it was the
00:11:16.380 same level
00:11:17.000 of disconnect
00:11:17.620 between people
00:11:19.640 who actually
00:11:20.320 legally own
00:11:21.140 firearms and
00:11:22.100 use them as
00:11:22.860 the tools they
00:11:23.460 are versus
00:11:24.680 urbanites,
00:11:25.900 in this case,
00:11:26.680 Mr. Rock,
00:11:27.540 who don't
00:11:28.600 understand what
00:11:29.900 law-abiding
00:11:30.640 firearms owners
00:11:31.520 do and who
00:11:32.540 they are.
00:11:33.380 So what
00:11:33.760 happened is
00:11:34.400 they're like,
00:11:34.800 oh, we want
00:11:35.320 long guns
00:11:35.920 registered.
00:11:37.120 In this case,
00:11:37.780 for people who
00:11:38.460 don't know
00:11:38.860 guns, it
00:11:39.600 literally means
00:11:40.220 a long gun.
00:11:41.700 Right.
00:11:42.060 Not a handgun.
00:11:43.400 Not a handgun.
00:11:44.280 Anything but a
00:11:44.880 handgun.
00:11:45.660 Not handguns.
00:11:46.720 Not the ones
00:11:47.100 you see in the
00:11:47.560 movies with,
00:11:48.220 you know,
00:11:48.480 the cops and
00:11:48.980 robbers and
00:11:49.420 stuff.
00:11:49.660 No, like
00:11:50.320 rifles and
00:11:51.720 shotguns,
00:11:52.800 typically.
00:11:53.540 The ones that
00:11:54.460 ranchers would
00:11:55.180 keep on hand,
00:11:56.200 right, to deal
00:11:56.980 with pests and
00:11:58.400 also if they
00:11:59.020 ever needed to
00:11:59.580 put down a
00:12:00.100 suffering animal.
00:12:01.220 Also hunters,
00:12:02.420 if you're going
00:12:02.740 to go bag a
00:12:03.280 deer, you need
00:12:04.100 a rifle, usually
00:12:05.020 with a scope.
00:12:06.040 These are the
00:12:06.620 tools, okay, of
00:12:07.760 this trade.
00:12:09.060 The story goes,
00:12:10.420 they said, oh,
00:12:11.440 this is just
00:12:12.080 going to be one
00:12:12.700 of those simple
00:12:13.260 little things and
00:12:14.060 we're going to
00:12:14.360 get all the
00:12:14.780 farmers and
00:12:15.300 ranchers and
00:12:15.800 duck hunters to
00:12:16.600 write their name
00:12:17.320 and address and
00:12:18.320 which guns they
00:12:19.000 have on this
00:12:20.160 sheet of paper
00:12:21.080 and it's going
00:12:21.580 to be a
00:12:21.860 government
00:12:22.060 registry.
00:12:23.020 It's only
00:12:23.660 going to cost
00:12:24.440 around $2
00:12:25.180 million with
00:12:26.900 an M.
00:12:27.860 Fast forward,
00:12:29.320 nobody is
00:12:30.140 safer and
00:12:31.340 they wound up
00:12:31.940 spending close
00:12:32.600 to $2
00:12:33.240 billion.
00:12:35.880 For kids
00:12:36.760 keeping track
00:12:37.460 at home,
00:12:37.900 that's a
00:12:38.180 thousand times
00:12:38.860 more.
00:12:39.760 Like 30
00:12:40.180 years ago.
00:12:41.120 30 years
00:12:41.840 ago.
00:12:42.180 Imagine the
00:12:42.720 inflation.
00:12:43.100 I can't
00:12:43.660 even, I
00:12:44.080 don't want
00:12:44.340 to look.
00:12:45.420 And it
00:12:45.600 was one of
00:12:45.940 those silly
00:12:46.420 moments where
00:12:47.200 back then the
00:12:48.640 Reform Party
00:12:49.420 and then
00:12:50.620 eventually the
00:12:51.280 Canadian
00:12:51.600 Alliance were
00:12:52.700 all fighting
00:12:53.260 against it and
00:12:54.020 the Taxpayers
00:12:54.620 Federation, that's
00:12:55.520 when we got
00:12:55.940 really started in
00:12:56.740 1990.
00:12:57.840 This is one of
00:12:58.460 the things we
00:12:58.880 cut our teeth
00:12:59.360 on because we
00:13:00.220 said, you
00:13:00.880 know what,
00:13:01.580 this is not
00:13:02.120 going to make
00:13:02.480 people safer
00:13:03.100 because the
00:13:03.660 police say so.
00:13:05.120 And two,
00:13:05.600 you're going to
00:13:05.940 blow a ton of
00:13:06.540 money.
00:13:07.200 And they did.
00:13:07.800 That's exactly
00:13:08.280 what happened.
00:13:08.880 And now here
00:13:09.540 we are again.
00:13:11.180 Yeah.
00:13:11.500 And also
00:13:13.040 with a public
00:13:13.620 safety minister
00:13:14.320 who also has
00:13:15.160 no clue about
00:13:16.540 the law-abiding
00:13:17.460 firearms-owning
00:13:18.380 community, Gary
00:13:19.340 Anandasangari,
00:13:20.660 who has the
00:13:22.200 funnest name to
00:13:22.940 say, by the
00:13:23.620 way, has no
00:13:25.100 clue what the
00:13:27.400 licensing and
00:13:29.120 screening requirements
00:13:30.440 are for firearms
00:13:31.780 owners.
00:13:32.600 Our friend Andrew
00:13:33.560 Lawton, who is
00:13:34.840 now the MP in
00:13:36.500 London, well
00:13:37.260 deserved, I'm so
00:13:38.220 proud of him,
00:13:38.860 he really has
00:13:41.360 been an advocate
00:13:42.000 on this issue
00:13:42.640 for years
00:13:43.520 through his
00:13:43.980 journalism, and
00:13:44.600 now he's in the
00:13:45.160 House of Commons
00:13:45.980 fighting for the
00:13:47.220 law-abiding
00:13:47.820 firearms-owning
00:13:48.600 community, and
00:13:49.560 he exposed the
00:13:51.780 public safety
00:13:53.160 minister as
00:13:54.440 someone who has
00:13:55.240 absolutely no
00:13:56.020 clue about what
00:13:57.740 is required of
00:13:59.400 the firearms-owning
00:14:00.100 community to own
00:14:01.540 the firearms that
00:14:02.160 they have.
00:14:02.660 I think he just
00:14:03.500 thinks we could go
00:14:04.080 to Walmart and
00:14:04.820 just buy an
00:14:06.460 AR-15.
00:14:07.280 I think that's
00:14:07.780 how he thinks
00:14:08.200 it works.
00:14:08.860 I think so
00:14:09.700 too.
00:14:10.680 That, for folks
00:14:12.220 who haven't seen
00:14:13.060 it yet.
00:14:13.540 I'll show the
00:14:14.160 clip.
00:14:14.640 I'll show the
00:14:15.140 clip here.
00:14:16.000 Awesome.
00:14:16.560 ...have been
00:14:17.000 seized so far
00:14:18.000 under the
00:14:18.600 buyback
00:14:19.100 confiscation scheme.
00:14:20.840 The alma
00:14:21.080 minister.
00:14:21.900 A thousand.
00:14:23.380 The alma
00:14:24.000 member.
00:14:25.020 What was the
00:14:25.620 price per gun
00:14:26.580 that the
00:14:26.880 government paid
00:14:27.840 for these?
00:14:28.900 Minister.
00:14:29.900 I will be
00:14:30.180 able to get
00:14:30.500 back to my
00:14:31.320 colleague.
00:14:32.940 The alma
00:14:33.200 member.
00:14:33.480 How many
00:14:34.560 firearms does
00:14:35.760 the government
00:14:36.080 believe have
00:14:36.720 been prohibited
00:14:37.400 that will be
00:14:37.940 collected under
00:14:38.500 this confiscation
00:14:39.340 scheme?
00:14:40.100 Minister.
00:14:41.120 Anticipation is
00:14:41.800 about 179,000.
00:14:44.380 The honour
00:14:44.660 member.
00:14:45.940 Are all of
00:14:46.900 those firearms
00:14:47.460 semi-automatics?
00:14:48.640 The honour
00:14:48.920 minister.
00:14:50.340 I don't
00:14:50.840 believe so.
00:14:52.140 The honour
00:14:52.400 member.
00:14:53.420 What other
00:14:53.980 types of
00:14:54.420 firearms have
00:14:55.100 been banned
00:14:55.640 that the
00:14:56.020 government will
00:14:56.460 be seizing?
00:14:57.460 The honour
00:14:57.680 minister.
00:14:58.040 Those that
00:14:59.520 are scheduled
00:15:00.100 to be brought
00:15:02.440 back will
00:15:03.400 be removed.
00:15:04.860 I can't tell
00:15:05.280 you the specific
00:15:06.360 ones, but
00:15:07.200 they are in
00:15:08.380 the schedule.
00:15:09.380 The alma
00:15:09.520 member.
00:15:10.560 Does the
00:15:11.020 minister have
00:15:11.520 an RPAL?
00:15:12.960 The alma
00:15:13.400 minister.
00:15:16.380 Can you
00:15:16.980 repeat that
00:15:17.300 question?
00:15:18.240 The alma
00:15:18.460 member.
00:15:18.980 I'll
00:15:19.200 rephrase
00:15:19.620 the
00:15:19.700 chair.
00:15:19.900 Does the
00:15:20.140 minister know
00:15:20.540 what an
00:15:20.740 RPAL is?
00:15:21.900 The alma
00:15:22.100 minister.
00:15:22.940 I do
00:15:23.240 not.
00:15:24.320 The alma
00:15:24.600 member.
00:15:27.340 Does the
00:15:27.980 minister know
00:15:28.520 what the
00:15:28.920 CFSC is?
00:15:30.760 The alma
00:15:30.960 minister.
00:15:32.160 I do
00:15:32.720 not.
00:15:33.020 No.
00:15:33.640 Member.
00:15:34.780 I'll
00:15:35.000 stipulate,
00:15:35.540 chair, that
00:15:35.880 is the
00:15:36.160 Canadian's
00:15:36.700 firearm
00:15:37.020 safety course
00:15:37.740 that all
00:15:38.100 gun owners
00:15:38.500 in Canada
00:15:38.980 have to
00:15:39.360 do to
00:15:39.660 get their
00:15:39.960 firearms
00:15:40.380 license.
00:15:41.200 Has the
00:15:41.640 minister
00:15:41.820 ever done
00:15:42.280 the
00:15:42.420 Canadian
00:15:42.700 firearm
00:15:43.100 safety
00:15:43.440 course?
00:15:44.200 The
00:15:44.360 Hon.
00:15:44.440 Minister.
00:15:45.700 Speaker,
00:15:46.220 it's my
00:15:46.460 third week
00:15:46.940 on the
00:15:47.180 job.
00:15:47.600 No, I
00:15:47.860 have
00:15:48.020 not.
00:15:48.860 The
00:15:49.020 Hon.
00:15:49.140 Member.
00:15:50.340 Does the
00:15:50.940 minister know
00:15:51.420 what safety
00:15:52.080 classes and
00:15:52.900 safety
00:15:53.280 demands are
00:15:54.040 expected of
00:15:54.600 law-abiding
00:15:54.980 Canadian gun
00:15:55.580 owners?
00:15:55.860 This is
00:15:58.280 not about
00:15:58.720 law-abiding
00:15:59.280 gun
00:15:59.560 owners,
00:15:59.960 Mr.
00:16:00.160 Speaker.
00:16:00.980 The
00:16:01.260 Hon.
00:16:01.320 Member.
00:16:02.640 How can
00:16:03.060 the
00:16:03.160 minister make
00:16:03.580 that claim
00:16:04.000 when he
00:16:04.240 doesn't know
00:16:04.600 the basic
00:16:05.200 fundamentals of
00:16:06.080 law-abiding
00:16:06.500 gun
00:16:06.700 ownership in
00:16:07.180 this country,
00:16:07.740 Chair?
00:16:08.420 The
00:16:08.700 Hon.
00:16:08.840 Minister.
00:16:10.960 Mr.
00:16:11.600 Speaker,
00:16:12.200 the Bill
00:16:12.640 21 is
00:16:13.520 meant to
00:16:13.980 get serious
00:16:16.160 dangerous
00:16:17.060 weapons
00:16:17.580 off our
00:16:18.360 streets.
00:16:19.700 The
00:16:19.940 Hon.
00:16:20.040 Member,
00:16:20.460 very briefly
00:16:20.940 I'm just
00:16:21.260 confirming that
00:16:21.720 he's splitting
00:16:22.060 his time
00:16:22.380 three ways.
00:16:23.380 Chair,
00:16:23.740 will the
00:16:23.980 minister commit
00:16:24.600 to taking
00:16:25.120 the Canadian
00:16:25.620 Firearm Safety
00:16:26.360 Corps so
00:16:26.800 he'll know
00:16:27.120 what he's
00:16:27.380 talking about?
00:16:28.580 I'm a
00:16:28.920 minister.
00:16:29.940 Mr.
00:16:30.220 Speaker,
00:16:30.540 I do not
00:16:31.020 intend to
00:16:31.980 purchase a
00:16:32.680 firearm or
00:16:33.220 use a
00:16:33.560 firearm.
00:16:34.840 Brilliant.
00:16:35.780 Absolutely
00:16:36.260 brilliant.
00:16:36.980 If Lawton
00:16:37.520 keeps that
00:16:38.000 going,
00:16:38.640 then this is
00:16:39.120 going to be
00:16:39.400 a good
00:16:39.620 session.
00:16:40.320 Because we
00:16:41.400 need to
00:16:41.840 show that
00:16:43.000 these ministers
00:16:44.400 either know
00:16:46.240 or don't know
00:16:46.940 what they're
00:16:47.220 doing.
00:16:48.020 They either
00:16:48.420 know or
00:16:48.860 they don't
00:16:49.140 know what
00:16:49.360 they're
00:16:49.460 talking about.
00:16:50.320 This is
00:16:50.700 part of
00:16:50.960 accountable
00:16:51.280 government.
00:16:52.480 And when
00:16:52.740 you have a
00:16:53.260 minister in
00:16:53.780 charge of a
00:16:54.780 massive
00:16:55.440 confiscation of
00:16:56.420 private property,
00:16:57.540 especially from
00:16:58.540 one of the
00:16:59.260 most strict
00:17:00.140 law-abiding
00:17:00.840 communities in
00:17:02.000 Canada,
00:17:02.620 gun owners are
00:17:03.960 uptight.
00:17:05.040 We follow
00:17:05.520 rules.
00:17:05.840 Very.
00:17:06.620 Big time.
00:17:08.160 And for this
00:17:09.020 minister just to
00:17:09.880 be floundering
00:17:10.720 around not
00:17:11.500 having a
00:17:12.120 schmick about
00:17:13.240 how this works
00:17:14.160 is surprising.
00:17:15.820 For folks who
00:17:16.480 don't have their
00:17:17.100 firearms licenses,
00:17:18.660 you have to
00:17:19.400 have a full
00:17:19.920 background check.
00:17:21.280 They phone your
00:17:22.180 spouse.
00:17:23.280 They'll phone
00:17:23.880 your exes.
00:17:25.420 You have to
00:17:26.140 yeah, like for
00:17:27.560 real.
00:17:28.240 This is just
00:17:29.040 for like
00:17:29.760 unrestricted.
00:17:31.600 So long
00:17:32.020 guns, like
00:17:32.460 owning a
00:17:32.860 regular shotgun.
00:17:34.220 You have to
00:17:34.680 go in for a
00:17:35.400 special course.
00:17:36.620 Mine was being
00:17:37.420 taught by a
00:17:38.540 former military
00:17:39.180 and RCMP
00:17:39.820 dude, super
00:17:40.460 nice student in
00:17:41.380 Nova Scotia.
00:17:42.580 You have to be
00:17:43.680 really good at
00:17:44.420 it.
00:17:44.940 There's no
00:17:45.440 participation
00:17:46.160 ribbons in
00:17:46.960 this.
00:17:47.540 You have to
00:17:47.960 pass that thing
00:17:48.600 with flying
00:17:49.020 colors.
00:17:49.920 There's rules
00:17:50.500 about where you
00:17:51.060 have to store
00:17:51.620 your ammo.
00:17:52.520 There's rules
00:17:53.000 about how you
00:17:53.540 have to store
00:17:54.000 your firearm.
00:17:54.780 Like you can't
00:17:55.600 just throw it in
00:17:56.120 your truck.
00:17:56.740 Like there are
00:17:57.680 so many rules
00:17:58.840 around these
00:17:59.560 things.
00:17:59.960 And you go to
00:18:00.560 jail if you
00:18:01.740 get it wrong.
00:18:02.880 Yes.
00:18:04.420 It's one of
00:18:05.060 those things
00:18:05.440 where you don't
00:18:05.900 just get a
00:18:06.300 ticket.
00:18:06.640 You're going
00:18:07.020 to prison.
00:18:08.160 Right.
00:18:08.380 So people are
00:18:09.180 very careful
00:18:10.040 with this stuff.
00:18:11.180 And if you
00:18:11.520 want to get
00:18:11.860 into handguns,
00:18:12.680 which you can't
00:18:13.220 now, things are
00:18:13.940 such a mess right
00:18:14.740 now between this
00:18:15.440 government and
00:18:16.120 firearms owners,
00:18:17.340 you have to be
00:18:18.320 able to allow
00:18:18.900 law enforcement to
00:18:19.860 enter your
00:18:20.240 home.
00:18:21.060 Like at any
00:18:21.600 time, if you're
00:18:22.700 a handgun
00:18:23.040 owner.
00:18:23.740 Like these are
00:18:24.540 serious things.
00:18:26.080 And to have
00:18:26.520 this minister just
00:18:27.460 not knowing the
00:18:29.240 foggiest thing
00:18:30.020 about it is
00:18:31.080 disappointing.
00:18:32.000 And it isn't
00:18:32.440 just, I must
00:18:33.140 say, it's not
00:18:34.620 just the individual
00:18:35.900 firearms owners.
00:18:36.840 That's bad
00:18:37.280 enough.
00:18:37.900 And how much
00:18:38.700 they're going to
00:18:39.220 spend on this
00:18:39.780 thing.
00:18:40.060 Again, without
00:18:41.080 making people
00:18:42.160 safer, according
00:18:43.720 to the police,
00:18:44.840 the police say
00:18:45.760 that we shouldn't
00:18:46.660 be spending money
00:18:47.340 on this because
00:18:47.880 it won't
00:18:48.180 help.
00:18:49.140 It's also the
00:18:50.160 businesses.
00:18:51.720 Yes, they have
00:18:52.500 stranded assets.
00:18:53.980 This is it.
00:18:54.960 This is it.
00:18:55.480 I'll never forget,
00:18:56.400 I was speaking to
00:18:57.220 a lady right in
00:18:58.280 the, you know,
00:18:58.980 teeth of the
00:18:59.440 lockdown.
00:18:59.880 I was up in
00:19:00.460 Prince George and
00:19:01.680 she was running
00:19:02.320 this amazing
00:19:03.180 business.
00:19:04.300 This, this mom,
00:19:05.280 mama, I think she
00:19:06.140 had five or six
00:19:06.840 kids.
00:19:07.200 She was amazing.
00:19:08.460 And they, they
00:19:09.740 had to, they
00:19:10.280 had to close.
00:19:11.000 They had to close
00:19:11.880 because she had so
00:19:13.000 many stranded
00:19:13.800 assets that were
00:19:15.100 locked up that she
00:19:16.380 could not move.
00:19:17.500 She could not
00:19:18.340 sell.
00:19:19.100 She, they still
00:19:20.060 didn't know what
00:19:20.580 they were doing
00:19:21.100 even with the
00:19:21.680 so-called buyback,
00:19:22.660 meaning she couldn't
00:19:23.380 even get compensation
00:19:24.260 at the time, even
00:19:25.440 if she had wanted
00:19:26.220 to with the
00:19:26.860 government.
00:19:27.320 It just strangled
00:19:29.000 her business.
00:19:30.480 I have no idea
00:19:30.980 what she's doing
00:19:31.440 now, but she was,
00:19:32.900 she was doing so
00:19:33.660 well.
00:19:34.080 It was a community
00:19:34.780 hub.
00:19:35.320 They were doing
00:19:35.720 lessons with
00:19:36.380 people like,
00:19:37.000 and so it
00:19:38.340 isn't just the
00:19:38.940 individual firearms
00:19:39.780 owners, it's
00:19:40.620 businesses, small
00:19:41.800 locally owned
00:19:42.480 businesses that
00:19:43.480 have been there
00:19:43.940 in cases for
00:19:44.620 decades that have
00:19:46.040 been wrecked by
00:19:46.540 this and it's
00:19:47.260 not right.
00:19:48.940 Well, and then
00:19:49.260 there's Canadian
00:19:49.800 firearms manufacturers
00:19:51.020 who made, uh,
00:19:53.740 small runs of
00:19:55.560 an AR-15 and
00:19:58.240 that was all that
00:19:59.000 they manufactured.
00:20:00.240 Uh, the government
00:20:01.100 just put them out
00:20:01.700 of business with
00:20:02.500 the stroke of a
00:20:03.080 pen.
00:20:03.720 Um, and, um,
00:20:06.140 and think
00:20:06.920 about it and
00:20:08.080 the minister
00:20:08.700 responsible for
00:20:10.600 putting you out
00:20:11.340 of business, the
00:20:13.120 minister responsible
00:20:14.200 for gun laws has
00:20:15.680 no idea what the
00:20:16.660 gun laws are, but
00:20:18.320 he knows for sure
00:20:19.840 that you're just
00:20:20.480 not following them.
00:20:22.080 Which is, again,
00:20:23.480 for folks who are
00:20:24.460 listening who have
00:20:25.220 friends and family
00:20:26.220 who aren't in, like,
00:20:27.180 the gun world, um,
00:20:28.420 imagine that this
00:20:29.300 was your truck
00:20:30.000 instead.
00:20:30.680 Right.
00:20:31.400 Imagine that it was
00:20:32.320 your chainsaw, a
00:20:33.440 tool that you rely
00:20:34.500 upon, um, imagine
00:20:36.320 that it was that
00:20:36.980 instead.
00:20:37.340 Or if you're really,
00:20:38.580 if you're a sports
00:20:39.200 shooter, imagine all
00:20:41.100 of a sudden the
00:20:42.420 government coming
00:20:43.040 forward and saying,
00:20:43.860 okay, we're literally
00:20:44.760 confiscating your
00:20:45.780 snowmobile, your
00:20:46.620 skis, your poles,
00:20:47.700 you're not allowed to
00:20:48.340 have these anymore.
00:20:49.540 Right.
00:20:49.980 And I'm just doing
00:20:50.460 that as a thought
00:20:51.000 process because this
00:20:51.960 is a private property
00:20:52.880 issue as well.
00:20:54.180 Exactly.
00:20:54.580 Like, when do you
00:20:55.340 give the state the
00:20:56.180 right to seize
00:20:56.960 property from law
00:20:58.300 abiding peaceful
00:20:59.140 people?
00:21:00.300 Do you really want
00:21:01.160 to go down that
00:21:01.700 route?
00:21:02.420 And again, this is
00:21:03.660 going to cost a ton
00:21:04.420 of money and it is
00:21:05.580 the police forces,
00:21:07.400 the frontline guys
00:21:08.500 who are saying this
00:21:10.060 is not where the
00:21:10.640 problem is.
00:21:11.400 The problem is, is
00:21:12.480 with illegal handguns
00:21:13.440 coming across the
00:21:14.120 border and they say
00:21:15.680 the fact that they
00:21:16.460 can't keep bad guys
00:21:17.520 in jail, no matter
00:21:18.800 how many times they
00:21:19.700 catch them.
00:21:20.840 Yes.
00:21:21.560 Yeah.
00:21:21.960 Because from what I
00:21:23.040 can see on the news,
00:21:24.300 they're actually kind
00:21:25.400 of good at catching
00:21:25.980 them.
00:21:26.780 They keep getting
00:21:27.880 back out of jail.
00:21:28.840 This is it.
00:21:30.500 And then committing
00:21:31.780 crimes while they
00:21:33.400 are on bail.
00:21:34.500 Yes.
00:21:35.160 Over and over and
00:21:36.080 over again.
00:21:36.680 And we're not
00:21:37.220 talking about new
00:21:37.820 laws.
00:21:38.220 We have enough
00:21:38.740 laws on the
00:21:39.200 books.
00:21:39.640 Right.
00:21:40.080 All the police are
00:21:40.960 saying is how
00:21:41.660 about we enforce
00:21:42.820 the ones that are
00:21:43.680 already here and
00:21:45.800 start backing off on
00:21:47.180 some of these folks.
00:21:48.060 And again, here in
00:21:48.640 Alberta, Premier
00:21:50.060 Daniel Smith has
00:21:50.940 instructed, saying
00:21:52.620 we don't want to be
00:21:53.620 spending precious
00:21:54.520 taxpayer dollars
00:21:55.420 provincially for
00:21:56.780 police to go door
00:21:57.840 to door, ranch
00:21:58.660 to ranch, saying
00:21:59.460 hi, I'm here to
00:22:00.280 seize your
00:22:00.600 property.
00:22:01.180 Like, and I
00:22:01.820 don't know any
00:22:02.460 frontline police
00:22:03.260 officer that is
00:22:04.340 keen to be doing
00:22:04.940 that.
00:22:05.540 Like, this is just
00:22:06.720 it should be a
00:22:07.460 non-issue, but
00:22:08.500 unfortunately it
00:22:09.380 looks like they're
00:22:09.820 going to be trying
00:22:10.320 to plow ahead with
00:22:11.040 this.
00:22:11.320 But good on
00:22:11.740 Andrew Lawton for
00:22:12.420 exposing that.
00:22:13.160 Yeah.
00:22:13.640 Yeah.
00:22:14.080 Andrew Lawton is
00:22:15.060 going to continue
00:22:15.760 to make some of
00:22:16.520 these liberals look
00:22:17.260 like absolute
00:22:17.860 idiots.
00:22:18.240 And I'm just, I'm
00:22:19.260 here for it.
00:22:21.140 Now, moving ahead,
00:22:23.560 the Provincial
00:22:25.800 Finance Minister's
00:22:27.220 report cards are
00:22:28.940 out.
00:22:29.920 Alberta did okay-ish,
00:22:31.700 not excellent, but
00:22:32.640 okay-ish, passing
00:22:34.140 grade.
00:22:35.540 Yeah.
00:22:36.360 So, our Finance
00:22:37.740 Minister here is
00:22:38.540 Nate Horner, and he
00:22:40.020 got a B, which, I
00:22:41.520 mean, we're kind of
00:22:42.880 tough here at the
00:22:43.980 CTF, the Taxpayers
00:22:45.400 Federation.
00:22:46.340 We want you to
00:22:46.880 balance the budget, we
00:22:47.720 want you to pay down
00:22:48.320 the debt, we want
00:22:49.040 lower taxes, we want
00:22:50.020 smaller government, all
00:22:50.960 of that.
00:22:51.280 And, yeah, he came
00:22:52.480 in second.
00:22:53.500 So, he got a B, in
00:22:54.900 Saskatchewan, the
00:22:55.700 Finance Minister there
00:22:56.620 got a B plus.
00:22:58.120 And that's because
00:22:59.180 technically, as of
00:23:00.780 right now, on June,
00:23:03.040 you know, 10th or
00:23:04.000 whatever it is, their
00:23:05.400 budget is balanced, and
00:23:07.500 the reason why I'm
00:23:08.100 putting a little
00:23:08.680 asterisk on that is
00:23:09.660 because apparently
00:23:10.880 they were being very
00:23:12.880 hopeful in their
00:23:13.760 estimations coming up
00:23:15.000 to their next
00:23:15.560 quarterly update, and
00:23:16.920 maybe a little bit
00:23:17.600 too hopeful with how
00:23:18.600 much resource revenue
00:23:19.500 they were going to
00:23:19.940 be getting, but we'll
00:23:20.680 see.
00:23:21.280 So, as of right
00:23:22.480 now, here in
00:23:23.260 Alberta, we started
00:23:25.200 off the year paying
00:23:26.140 down some debt, but
00:23:27.600 now we're going to
00:23:28.360 reverse that and
00:23:29.480 start adding more to
00:23:30.760 the debt.
00:23:31.700 So, our budget is not
00:23:32.880 balanced in Alberta.
00:23:34.280 It pains me to say
00:23:35.620 that, and we are
00:23:37.080 going to be borrowing
00:23:37.920 more than 5 billion
00:23:39.460 extra dollars, heaping
00:23:41.680 more money onto that
00:23:43.340 debt.
00:23:44.340 Yeah.
00:23:44.520 And the reason why
00:23:45.300 that's a problem, of
00:23:46.140 course, is because we're
00:23:47.380 charged interest on that
00:23:49.020 debt.
00:23:49.300 It's the same as if you
00:23:51.100 had a line of credit or
00:23:52.320 a credit card as an
00:23:53.260 individual.
00:23:54.160 The government is in the
00:23:55.380 same boat.
00:23:56.540 And so, we are blowing
00:23:57.640 close to 3 billion
00:24:00.020 dollars every year just on
00:24:02.800 debt interest payments.
00:24:04.160 I did the math.
00:24:04.920 I think it works out.
00:24:06.180 What's that?
00:24:07.020 Three hospitals worth.
00:24:08.360 Three hospitals.
00:24:08.980 I think it's like 8
00:24:10.880 million dollars a day.
00:24:13.900 Isn't that awful?
00:24:15.260 I know.
00:24:15.840 Like, it's bad, bad.
00:24:17.620 And so, this is where
00:24:18.240 we're like, okay, this is
00:24:19.380 how I put it out.
00:24:20.260 And this is coming out in
00:24:21.280 the, hopefully, the
00:24:22.600 Calgary sound in the next
00:24:23.480 few days.
00:24:25.020 I'll give it to you this
00:24:25.780 way.
00:24:27.300 Premier Daniel Smith is
00:24:28.380 doing an amazing job
00:24:30.000 fighting the powers that
00:24:32.080 be in Ottawa and trying to
00:24:35.100 stay ahead of whatever
00:24:36.700 circus is happening in
00:24:38.800 D.C.
00:24:39.520 Right.
00:24:39.800 I don't even know
00:24:40.440 anymore.
00:24:41.080 I'm just innocent
00:24:43.280 bystander.
00:24:44.920 That's on fire.
00:24:46.540 I'm just going to stay
00:24:48.000 over here now.
00:24:49.080 So, Smith is doing a
00:24:50.220 great job trying to
00:24:52.000 tackle both of those
00:24:52.920 things, trying to
00:24:53.620 wrestle both those
00:24:54.360 steers.
00:24:55.580 However, here in
00:24:57.480 Alberta, we have to be
00:24:59.260 Fortress Alberta.
00:25:00.460 Right.
00:25:00.900 At home.
00:25:01.840 So, imagine, you
00:25:03.360 know, I liken her in the
00:25:04.640 article to Sarah Connor,
00:25:06.080 who is like one of
00:25:06.680 my favorite, you
00:25:07.840 know, movie
00:25:08.260 characters of all
00:25:08.860 time.
00:25:09.960 Imagine if in T2, she
00:25:12.560 hadn't had all that
00:25:13.760 ammo stored.
00:25:15.020 Right.
00:25:15.520 Imagine if she didn't
00:25:16.440 have the gas masks
00:25:17.420 ready.
00:25:17.800 Imagine if she wasn't
00:25:18.800 ready.
00:25:19.820 So, she's tough, she's
00:25:21.440 courageous, all of
00:25:22.360 those great things.
00:25:23.240 She's a fighter, but
00:25:24.480 she hadn't done the
00:25:25.600 planning and made sure
00:25:27.320 that her team was
00:25:28.340 strong.
00:25:29.160 That's what we have to
00:25:30.200 have here in Alberta.
00:25:31.800 Because if Alberta is
00:25:32.980 not balancing its
00:25:33.720 budget, if Alberta is
00:25:34.720 not paying down the
00:25:35.460 debt, if Alberta is
00:25:36.380 making sure that our
00:25:37.140 fiscal, isn't making
00:25:37.940 sure our fiscal house is
00:25:38.740 in order, what the
00:25:39.880 other province is going
00:25:40.820 to do.
00:25:41.500 Where are people going
00:25:42.360 to come to, right, for
00:25:44.300 that kind of fiscal
00:25:45.200 stability?
00:25:46.380 And from fiscal
00:25:47.400 stability, I will add,
00:25:49.320 comes things like more
00:25:50.320 freedom because you have
00:25:51.900 smaller government, which
00:25:54.080 is what we need is
00:25:54.960 smaller government.
00:25:56.740 And so that is why we
00:25:57.600 are urging through this
00:25:59.020 report card system of,
00:26:00.220 yeah, you're doing a
00:26:00.780 very good job in the
00:26:01.660 sense that you did a big
00:26:02.560 income tax cut that was
00:26:04.060 outstanding.
00:26:05.320 Super happy with that.
00:26:07.080 And taxpayer protection,
00:26:08.660 again, good job.
00:26:10.600 But our spending increased
00:26:12.460 year over year by more
00:26:14.380 than 8%.
00:26:15.600 Sheila, that was second
00:26:18.120 only to Prince Edward
00:26:19.380 Island.
00:26:21.120 Yuck.
00:26:22.080 Yeah.
00:26:22.620 Like, yeah, I'm
00:26:23.740 cringing.
00:26:24.340 Like, I don't want to hear
00:26:25.460 that.
00:26:25.800 And yes, I know it's
00:26:27.260 technically within the
00:26:28.220 rules because they have a
00:26:29.660 rule of inflation plus
00:26:30.760 population, but it was
00:26:32.380 within, like, 0.01%
00:26:34.900 here, girl.
00:26:35.600 Yeah.
00:26:36.040 Like, not good enough.
00:26:37.480 And so this is where we're
00:26:38.480 encouraging them, you got
00:26:40.160 a B, but we want you to
00:26:42.040 pull your socks up and get
00:26:43.240 an A.
00:26:43.880 So that's where we're at
00:26:44.720 right now in Alberta.
00:26:45.860 Yeah, right.
00:26:46.420 We need to be conservative
00:26:47.440 in our spending.
00:26:48.780 Yes.
00:26:49.300 That's a nice way of
00:26:50.180 putting it.
00:26:51.120 Right?
00:26:53.760 Speaking of not being
00:26:54.880 conservative in their
00:26:55.980 spending, CBC, which
00:26:58.400 claims to be stricken
00:27:00.660 with poverty, but
00:27:02.960 receives about a
00:27:04.460 billion and a half
00:27:05.820 dollars in subsidy
00:27:07.140 per year, plus, you
00:27:09.140 know, those government
00:27:09.760 contracts for all the
00:27:10.720 government of Canada
00:27:11.740 advertising, plus they
00:27:13.740 rake in private sector
00:27:15.340 advertising.
00:27:17.080 Their new CEO, who is
00:27:20.040 replacing the outgoing
00:27:21.220 personal muse of mine,
00:27:23.640 Catherine Tate, their
00:27:27.220 new boss, same as the
00:27:30.400 old boss, sounds like.
00:27:31.580 Yes, exactly.
00:27:33.480 And so I like doing a
00:27:36.240 little bit of guerrilla
00:27:36.940 training for, like,
00:27:38.200 independent journalists
00:27:39.060 who watch the show.
00:27:41.440 So a good way to go
00:27:43.020 figure out how much
00:27:44.800 these people are being
00:27:45.720 paid is to look up
00:27:47.380 something called orders
00:27:48.360 and counsel.
00:27:49.860 Okay?
00:27:50.480 It's a government
00:27:51.220 website.
00:27:51.960 It's basically where they
00:27:52.940 announce, you know,
00:27:54.020 appointments.
00:27:54.460 And in this case, it
00:27:56.780 was announced that the
00:27:57.760 replacement for
00:27:58.640 Catherine Tate is going
00:28:00.660 to be at the same
00:28:02.120 level, same CEO level
00:28:05.920 as Tate.
00:28:07.240 The reason why that
00:28:08.540 matters is because the
00:28:09.780 way the federal
00:28:10.340 government does their
00:28:11.800 pay is they have a
00:28:13.360 grid system.
00:28:14.480 Right.
00:28:14.600 Okay?
00:28:15.120 And so what you do is
00:28:16.780 you look up, look up
00:28:18.620 CEO Crown Corporation
00:28:20.540 Canada grid, and it'll
00:28:23.400 show you, so the new
00:28:25.500 boss is CEO level seven.
00:28:28.260 That's the same that
00:28:29.580 Catherine Tate was.
00:28:30.960 All that is to say, the
00:28:32.900 new boss is also getting
00:28:34.680 paid about half a million
00:28:36.680 dollars.
00:28:38.140 Jeez.
00:28:38.480 Like, it's disgusting.
00:28:40.260 It is more than the
00:28:41.380 prime minister, regardless
00:28:42.300 of how you feel about the
00:28:43.300 person, more than
00:28:44.520 cabinet ministers.
00:28:45.920 I think it's closing in
00:28:47.500 on the U.S.
00:28:48.440 president's salary.
00:28:49.860 Like, of the entire
00:28:51.140 country?
00:28:52.260 Yeah.
00:28:52.660 One little bureaucrat
00:28:53.800 who's the head of our
00:28:54.860 state broadcaster is
00:28:56.400 getting paid around
00:28:57.920 $500,000 a year.
00:29:01.200 Plus perks, for sure.
00:29:02.960 So this is where it gets
00:29:04.220 frustrating, because we
00:29:06.140 had all of these folks
00:29:07.800 saying, you know what,
00:29:08.960 that's too much money.
00:29:10.580 We want to see CBC, you
00:29:12.280 know, read the room,
00:29:14.000 realize that 50% of
00:29:15.580 Canadians are fighting to
00:29:16.620 afford basics right now.
00:29:18.000 They're tapped out.
00:29:18.800 They're taxed out.
00:29:19.780 This is too large.
00:29:20.940 Too large.
00:29:22.140 Right?
00:29:22.740 Trim it back.
00:29:23.260 Yeah.
00:29:23.800 And they didn't.
00:29:24.640 They hired her at exactly
00:29:25.760 the same level.
00:29:27.080 Well, and regardless of
00:29:29.160 what you...
00:29:29.660 Okay, look.
00:29:31.160 I think it's clear.
00:29:32.820 I think the CBC should
00:29:34.420 sink or swim on its own.
00:29:35.620 I believe that that is
00:29:36.540 your position, too.
00:29:37.480 I see it behind you
00:29:38.420 there.
00:29:40.420 But let's even take my
00:29:42.680 political leanings out of
00:29:44.460 the mix for a second.
00:29:47.080 This is the CEO of a
00:29:50.540 failing company by every
00:29:53.080 single metric.
00:29:54.580 It's a TV station nobody
00:29:56.440 watches.
00:29:57.660 Yes.
00:29:57.980 Quite literally.
00:29:58.880 They are a statistical
00:29:59.820 rounding error of Canadian
00:30:01.360 grandparents who don't
00:30:02.480 know how to use their
00:30:03.160 remote control.
00:30:04.120 They're watching the six
00:30:05.800 o'clock news at this
00:30:06.780 point, if indeed your
00:30:08.160 region even has a six
00:30:09.980 o'clock news broadcast
00:30:10.880 anymore, because they
00:30:11.820 basically all but
00:30:12.860 eliminated those.
00:30:13.740 Their flagship show is
00:30:16.300 Unwatchable, Bias, and
00:30:17.920 Unwatched.
00:30:20.500 They just don't provide
00:30:24.300 the service to Canadians
00:30:26.440 that they are supposed to
00:30:28.140 provide and that Canadians
00:30:29.840 want.
00:30:30.200 This is a failing company.
00:30:32.220 Should a failing company's
00:30:34.400 CEO be making this money?
00:30:36.180 Particularly if the
00:30:38.000 shareholders, us, don't
00:30:40.380 like it.
00:30:41.520 No.
00:30:41.880 Great point.
00:30:42.460 I'm pulling up my phone
00:30:44.380 right now just to give you
00:30:46.480 the exact latest one on
00:30:48.220 how much, how many people
00:30:49.600 are actually watching it
00:30:50.600 here.
00:30:51.320 All right.
00:30:51.840 So in their latest
00:30:53.080 quarterly report from the
00:30:54.700 CBC itself, okay, their
00:30:57.020 latest quarterly report,
00:30:58.560 they have an audience share
00:31:00.240 of 1.8%.
00:31:02.940 What that means is, of Canadians who
00:31:07.140 were available to be watching TV at
00:31:09.360 that time, 98% of Canadians were
00:31:13.240 choosing to watch something else.
00:31:16.100 Yeah.
00:31:16.220 And again, this is CBC News World
00:31:18.300 primetime.
00:31:18.980 They're in every house in the country
00:31:21.280 too, by the way.
00:31:22.160 Like this is, you don't have a choice.
00:31:24.000 This is shoved onto your TV, whether you
00:31:26.660 want it or not.
00:31:27.720 They are mandatory carriage, whether
00:31:29.540 you're just got antennas or cable or
00:31:32.400 satellite.
00:31:33.060 This is in every home in the country and
00:31:36.100 very few networks can say that.
00:31:38.740 Yeah.
00:31:39.260 They're mandated, so to speak.
00:31:41.200 Yeah.
00:31:41.520 Yeah.
00:31:41.720 The CBC is mandated and still nobody
00:31:44.520 is watching them or close to nobody.
00:31:46.620 And again, I will point out, so the
00:31:48.400 new CEO of the CBC is Marie-Philippe
00:31:51.600 Bouchard.
00:31:52.540 She started her new role right at the
00:31:54.580 change of the new year after Tate left
00:31:56.540 off and her pay, the official pay
00:31:59.460 salary for this scale is between
00:32:01.580 $478,300 and $562,700.
00:32:07.920 Now, technically also entitled to a
00:32:11.840 bonus of up to 28% of that.
00:32:15.440 Oh my goodness.
00:32:16.480 Which is amazing.
00:32:17.920 I think it's over, I think that alone
00:32:19.440 is over $150,000.
00:32:21.360 Now, this is the, laugh or cry, it's
00:32:24.200 kind of the funny part.
00:32:25.600 The CBC said, oh, we hear you.
00:32:27.900 We're listening.
00:32:28.840 We're getting rid of bonuses.
00:32:31.040 Yeah, but they're just going to jack up
00:32:32.620 the salaries.
00:32:33.440 Exactly.
00:32:34.420 Right.
00:32:35.560 Again, this.
00:32:36.500 At least it's truth in advertising
00:32:39.040 because before they were calling them
00:32:40.660 performance bonuses and everyone was
00:32:42.780 like, including me, but you're not
00:32:44.980 performing.
00:32:45.800 So they're like, okay, we'll just call
00:32:47.140 it a salary.
00:32:48.300 Exactly.
00:32:48.900 And they're just going to go back to
00:32:49.840 salary.
00:32:50.400 And again, this, sorry to be like
00:32:52.160 Debbie Downer here, but this is on
00:32:54.520 top of the fact that Prime Minister
00:32:56.460 Mark Carney, okay, is going to give
00:32:59.020 them even more money.
00:33:01.140 I can't get over, as a journalist my
00:33:03.520 entire life, I can't get over the,
00:33:06.080 the scene during the election.
00:33:08.860 Yeah.
00:33:09.200 So like, just picture it here, folks.
00:33:12.320 Candidate A, the red team candidate
00:33:14.400 and candidate B, the blue team
00:33:16.360 candidate.
00:33:17.520 Candidate A says, hey, CBC, I'm going
00:33:21.660 to give you more money.
00:33:23.620 Here you go.
00:33:24.900 And then the CBC goes and covers this
00:33:27.500 as news.
00:33:28.680 Yeah.
00:33:28.840 I saw it at the debate first.
00:33:30.100 Like, this, this, this conflict of
00:33:34.500 interest is so big, it is casting a
00:33:37.300 shadow on Godzilla.
00:33:38.720 Right.
00:33:39.520 Like, everybody can see this thing.
00:33:41.540 Yes.
00:33:41.980 And like, candidate B, the blue guy
00:33:44.640 says, I'm going to cut your funding.
00:33:46.920 Right.
00:33:47.820 How is that?
00:33:49.480 This is it.
00:33:50.300 How is that reporter supposed to call
00:33:52.800 that straight?
00:33:53.760 You can't.
00:33:54.800 It is an inherent conflict of interest,
00:33:56.540 which is an illustration as to why
00:33:58.760 journalists should not be paid by the
00:34:01.180 government.
00:34:02.020 Right.
00:34:02.960 Again, so just an update for folks on the
00:34:05.060 CBC.
00:34:05.680 A, they're going to be getting more money.
00:34:07.300 B, the new CEO, same as the old CEO.
00:34:10.040 And C, they're getting rid of bonuses,
00:34:12.380 but they're just going to increase their
00:34:13.960 pay.
00:34:14.660 Yes, we're going to find out by how much.
00:34:17.040 Oh, good gracious.
00:34:18.420 Now, last thing, you know, last thing I
00:34:20.960 just want to touch on, um, as we're
00:34:22.540 recording this Tuesday morning, this news
00:34:24.440 just broke.
00:34:25.680 Um, and it's funny because I read the
00:34:28.200 same report as the rest of the
00:34:29.700 journalists, but I'm the only one who
00:34:31.100 found this one thing and I'm sure they
00:34:33.320 saw it.
00:34:33.860 They just didn't want to report it.
00:34:35.600 GC Strategies, the company behind the
00:34:37.900 flawed Arrive Can app that sent 10,000
00:34:40.700 people into quarantine erroneously, um,
00:34:44.460 which is a $60 million contract to create
00:34:48.660 an app that was recreated over a weekend
00:34:50.900 by a bunch of just nerds, benevolent nerds,
00:34:55.440 not the sinister kind, tech bro kids, uh, for
00:34:59.060 about $50,000.
00:35:01.580 Um, the auditor general report is out on
00:35:05.400 this today and I'm asking you about this
00:35:07.000 or just, we're going to talk about it
00:35:08.420 real quick, uh, because well, you're the
00:35:11.280 CTF. So $93 million in no bid contracts, uh,
00:35:16.760 between 2015 and 2024 GC Strategies, a two
00:35:20.340 man company run by Christian Firth and
00:35:22.700 Darren Anthony secured 106 federal
00:35:24.860 contracts across 31 departments. Total
00:35:27.560 value 93 million. Most were awarded
00:35:30.460 without competition. So sole source
00:35:33.080 contracts and GC Strategies. They don't
00:35:35.600 build tech. They're basically a pass
00:35:38.120 through. They outsource the work, mark
00:35:40.780 up the invoices, and then they send the
00:35:42.880 bill to the taxpayer. Uh, the auditor
00:35:45.520 general's findings were 82% of the sole
00:35:48.620 source contracts had no price validation. So
00:35:50.940 they didn't know if they were within the
00:35:53.240 realm of what the market could bear. 21%
00:35:56.760 lacked proof of required security
00:35:59.820 clearances. 87 of these contracts were
00:36:03.160 split into small amounts to avoid
00:36:06.160 oversight rules so that to make sure that
00:36:08.000 they didn't have to go to, um, mandatory
00:36:10.620 tender. Um, and then, uh, department, it
00:36:16.300 wasn't just the CBSA. So the CBSA was into
00:36:19.300 these guys for 59 or 49 million treasury
00:36:22.420 board, 10 million innovation, innovation
00:36:24.440 Canada, 10 million national defense. And
00:36:27.060 remember, I just said that they didn't
00:36:28.380 have the proper security clearances, almost
00:36:30.940 4 million. And here's the one that I
00:36:33.240 thought was kind of, uh, interesting. It's
00:36:35.800 not the biggest, but CBC was into these
00:36:39.560 guys for $12,000. Now, never once in years
00:36:43.900 now of reporting on the Arrive Can GC's
00:36:47.340 strategies scandal, did CBC ever divulge
00:36:52.080 that they had a contract with these guys? Not
00:36:55.440 even once. I've never heard them declare
00:36:57.940 that, no. No, and nobody else declared it
00:37:00.300 either. So all the journalists in the
00:37:01.780 mainstream media who were funded by the
00:37:03.300 government had the same report that I had
00:37:05.320 today. And they just sort of skimmed over
00:37:08.000 CBC being into this up to their elbows.
00:37:10.860 Holy smokes. And again, I started off our
00:37:14.340 conversation talking about history rhyming.
00:37:16.860 This is what the Accountability Act was
00:37:18.960 supposed to be for. Right. So for, you
00:37:22.000 know, younger people, there was a huge
00:37:23.840 thing that, you know, eventually did bring
00:37:25.500 down the Kretchen-Martin government. Yep. And
00:37:27.740 that was called, um, ad scam, right? Or the
00:37:30.540 sponsorship scandal. Yeah. Um, long story
00:37:33.460 short, uh, it was in the wake of the near
00:37:36.020 miss referendum where Quebec wanted to get
00:37:38.020 out of here. And then basically the federal
00:37:40.000 government backed up the dump truck full of
00:37:41.740 money and said, we're going to give you tons
00:37:44.100 and tons of taxpayers dollars. The problem is
00:37:46.860 in areas around Quebec, they weren't
00:37:49.280 accountable for it. Meaning there weren't
00:37:51.560 receipts, there weren't paper trails. Auditor
00:37:54.020 general looked at this over and over again and
00:37:56.200 said, whoa, like this is not okay. Which then
00:37:59.660 prompted new prime minister, Stephen Harper
00:38:02.340 to pass the Accountability Act. So that
00:38:05.640 included things like what you just mentioned
00:38:07.860 there, limits on how much you can sole source
00:38:11.760 before putting it out to tender. But if it
00:38:14.880 now is shown that they're purposefully breaking
00:38:17.440 it down into small increments to avoid, like
00:38:19.400 this is not okay. This is absolutely not okay.
00:38:23.040 It doesn't matter what, you know, brand of
00:38:26.060 government is in there. No, this is what
00:38:27.740 accountability is for because all of this is
00:38:30.280 your money. You guys, all of this is taxpayers
00:38:32.940 money. Like picture the people who are
00:38:35.560 struggling in your neighborhood or when you're
00:38:37.500 watching them at the grocery store, put stuff
00:38:39.240 back. Like, I'm sorry, this makes me really
00:38:42.140 mad because this, the auditor general found
00:38:47.920 that there was no e-procurement system. There
00:38:51.720 were no fraud risk tools used and no
00:38:54.980 enforcement of the existing rules. So this
00:38:57.280 isn't even about adding extra rules, which
00:39:00.140 normally I'm against, but I feel like we
00:39:01.760 probably should here because it protects the
00:39:04.380 taxpayer. But even the ones that are on the
00:39:06.220 books, nobody was following.
00:39:08.360 This is it. Gets back to what we were saying
00:39:10.200 about the police saying, just keep the bad
00:39:11.900 guys in jail. We don't need, probably don't
00:39:13.860 need new laws. We just need the laws that are
00:39:16.400 currently there to be followed. And again, this
00:39:19.420 is, this gets back to government being in for
00:39:22.840 a while and then getting this sense of
00:39:25.200 entitlement and this Teflon sort of coating
00:39:28.120 that Trudeau had on him. Yep. My one little
00:39:31.500 glimmer of hope here, because a colleague of
00:39:35.420 mine just said something, not a colleague, but
00:39:37.220 a, like a caller called the office. How did he
00:39:40.420 put it? I'm not optimistic, but I'm trying to
00:39:43.060 be hopeful. Right. Which was a nice way of
00:39:45.620 putting it. Yeah. I don't want to be a doomer, but
00:39:47.800 this isn't good. Yeah. It's not good. Um, and so
00:39:51.620 my little bit of hope to offer people here is
00:39:55.060 that I do, I think that Trudeau as a personality
00:40:01.600 prime minister was a phenomenon. And I don't
00:40:06.400 mean that in either a positive nor a negative
00:40:09.080 light. Right. I mean, as an individual, he was
00:40:13.380 exceptional because of who he was. Right. He
00:40:16.080 was kind of a celebrity. He was a famous name.
00:40:19.680 Um, people thought he was, you know, the, the
00:40:21.720 media kind of treated him like the cool kid in
00:40:23.700 class. So he was not your garden variety
00:40:27.140 politician. Right. I'll put it that way. Similar
00:40:29.640 in a sense that, you know, um, U S president
00:40:32.080 Donald Trump is a specific type of person, right?
00:40:36.180 Yeah. He's not coming up through the
00:40:37.480 bureaucratic ranks. My hope here in saying all
00:40:40.680 this is stuff didn't stick to Trudeau. He was
00:40:44.280 Teflon. He could say the most outrageously
00:40:46.340 stupid things. Like you should prioritize paying
00:40:49.220 your carbon tax, my carbon tax over feeding
00:40:51.420 your kids and pay rent and people shrug their
00:40:54.740 shoulders. Like, you know, they keep like flick his
00:40:57.020 hair and show his sock and everyone would be
00:40:58.740 like, Ooh, swoon. I know it was like, am I on
00:41:02.480 crazy pills here? I know. Like it was crazy. And
00:41:05.620 so I think that chapter is over. I hope I'm not
00:41:11.860 expecting Dr. Mark Carney flashing his socks at
00:41:16.360 people. I'm hoping that there is that, that getting
00:41:20.940 back to what we were saying, that calculator
00:41:23.220 abacus, you know, minding the beans and counting
00:41:26.120 them mentality in there that is like, Nope, you're
00:41:29.560 going to wear a suit to work and you're going to
00:41:31.620 show up on time. And I hope that this means it's a
00:41:35.280 change within this own government of
00:41:37.600 accountability. And we need to get back to, you
00:41:40.060 know, where you got to show your receipts.
00:41:42.660 Yeah. Mark Carney has the charisma of one of those
00:41:45.840 vacuum cleaner robots.
00:41:50.080 Don't take this away from me, Sheila. I'm still
00:41:52.340 clinging to hope that he's efficient. Really? And
00:41:56.280 like, let's get, let's come back to there. I want
00:41:58.500 me, what is it? Make politicians boring again.
00:42:00.680 Yes. Boring and accountable. Take me back to
00:42:04.340 Stephen Harper. Boring and accountable. Yeah. My
00:42:07.880 problem with Mark Carney is the last time he had an
00:42:10.680 expense account at the Bank of England, he blew right
00:42:14.760 through it. And then he and his wife complained that it
00:42:16.940 wasn't large enough for them. So I'm already filled with
00:42:19.940 dread and trepidation. On that dark note, Chris, how do
00:42:24.220 people get involved with the Canadian Taxpayers
00:42:27.320 Federation? Because you provide a bit of a community for
00:42:31.760 people who are looking for ways to stand up and have their
00:42:35.160 voices heard. Amen. And it's the best part of the job. And
00:42:39.160 it's the best part of Taxpayers Federation, actually. So folks
00:42:42.560 can go to our website, taxpayer.com, click on the
00:42:46.280 petitions tab. And this is where it's important because it's
00:42:49.400 kind of like you're signing up for a certain battalion, okay, of
00:42:54.040 which part of the armed forces, the taxpayer armed forces you want to
00:42:58.040 join here. And basically pick something that speaks to you. If you
00:43:02.040 want to cancel the gun grab, sign that petition. If you want to defund the media,
00:43:07.640 something near and dear to both of our hearts, sign that petition. I think my,
00:43:12.040 you know, little petition to get rid of sales tax on thrift shop items is
00:43:15.480 still there. It's important. It's important. It is important. Stop taxing poor
00:43:19.480 people. Quit being absolute demons. Awful. Right. So things like that, right? Sign those
00:43:25.800 petitions. And then the next time that issue comes up, so when they're, for example, not
00:43:30.480 balancing the budget or they're seizing firearms or they're giving the media more
00:43:35.120 money, you'll get like an action update alert email saying, okay, it's time to
00:43:39.840 everybody email your minister at once. Everybody phone your local MP. Everybody
00:43:44.480 get out and come to, you know, we're, we're having a teddies event or handing out
00:43:47.600 golden pig statues. Everybody come out. So it's kind of a community where then you
00:43:53.040 actually speak truth to power and we chat with you. We answer all of our emails
00:43:58.000 personally. Okay. And I know you do. I can vote for that. I know you do.
00:44:03.200 It's just a really good way. It's a sense of, I get a sense of fellowship out of it.
00:44:07.920 And I think it matters to feel that you're not alone. So, so, and we get results. So
00:44:12.800 remember back when the government was going to increase the capital gains tax
00:44:16.960 without going through parliament? Well, we took action. We were taking them to court,
00:44:21.120 court, like fighting them in court. They backed off that like a burning building.
00:44:25.600 So we do get results. The carbon tax, carbon tax, right? Yes. I know they're plotting a new one.
00:44:32.880 Yes. I know the industrial carbon tax, but I don't know about you, Sheila, my gas is still 20 cents
00:44:38.160 cheaper than it was. That's serious savings. So, and that was a long fight. So we win the fights,
00:44:45.440 but we also have a good time and we connect with people while we're doing it. So thank you for
00:44:49.520 letting me do my Ted talk there. Happy warriors. Chris, thank you so much for coming on the show.
00:44:54.640 Thank you so much for being my friend and a good friend to taxpayers. And we'll have you back on
00:44:59.840 again very soon. Thank you, Sheila.
00:45:01.920 As always, I turn over the last segment of the show to you because without you, there's no rebel news.
00:45:16.000 So I want to know what you think about the work that we do here. If you want to get in touch with
00:45:21.040 me directly, you can send me an email. It's Sheila at rebel news.com put gun show letters in the subject
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00:45:52.800 and the algorithms like work that's engaged with and commented on. And so it serves it up to more
00:46:01.360 people so that more people can discover the work that we do here at rebel news. And perhaps ultimately
00:46:07.200 one day become a subscriber and supporter of the work that we do here. So that is why sometimes I
00:46:13.040 go looking for the comments over on YouTube or on rumble. I want to know what those people think too,
00:46:19.360 because they're commenting and even the hate comments help us, um, be viewed and consumed
00:46:27.200 more by people. Now, many of you know that last week I went to the UK for less than 24 hours.
00:46:38.160 It took me 18 hours to get there. And then I was on the ground for a little bit over that. And then
00:46:42.480 another 18 hours to get back because I was covering a court hearing of citizen journalists and activist
00:46:49.680 Tommy Robinson, Cole's notes version of the court hearing. He has been charged with, uh, harassment,
00:46:58.720 criminal harassment. Now you won't even believe this. He was on vacation with his kids in Cyprus
00:47:06.880 out of the country, out of the prying eye of the UK paparazzi. And he was with his children. I want to
00:47:16.480 reiterate with his children. Two Daily Mail journalists followed him to Cyprus and took pictures of him
00:47:24.960 with his children. Instead of physically attacking him like them, like what a lot of dads might do if
00:47:32.720 weirdos, uh, were taking pictures of their children. Tommy turned the camera on them. He took their pictures
00:47:40.560 and then he published their names. And so that according to the UK police amounts to criminal
00:47:50.320 harassment. Now it was the first hearing where Tommy entered a plea of not guilty. I went there to
00:48:00.720 hear about Tommy's conditions. If he would be released because it's always a miracle when Tommy
00:48:06.960 goes to court and isn't taken directly into custody. Now they did release him. They released him with some
00:48:11.600 pretty strict conditions. He can't talk about the case. He can't name the journalists involved.
00:48:16.000 Um, you can't name the judge involved, the prosecutors, anything. He is basically completely gagged.
00:48:22.640 But before he was gagged, I met him at a coffee shop and we had a little chat about why he was in court.
00:48:32.880 And, uh, I gave him the ability to talk about something he knew he wouldn't be able to talk about in
00:48:43.120 quite literally under an hour after our conversation. And so let's hear what you have to say about that
00:48:49.920 interview. Toby Reed 59. No, sorry. Toby Reed 529 says, as a survivor of something similar to the
00:48:57.120 grooming gangs, Tommy is my hero. I followed his story from the start and I can honestly say I've
00:49:02.240 seen nothing to warrant him going to jail. To be honest, the reporter prosecuting Tommy is actually
00:49:07.520 causing me harm and worry that this court case will set our country back years. My family are
00:49:12.880 scared and afraid as well. What's the reporter's name, please? I feel a lawsuit coming on up.
00:49:18.400 The names are out there. You can find them. They work for the Daily Mail. Um, but I'm, I can't name them.
00:49:28.480 If you watch my subsequent reporting at tommyreports.com, you'll see the conditions
00:49:35.360 listed and the names are thus protected right now.
00:49:42.400 John Lemon 1863 says they've made Tommy stronger than ever. Yeah, I think so. I think more people know
00:49:48.480 about him than ever before. It's the Streisand effect. Do you know the Streisand effect? Uh,
00:49:57.200 Barbara Streisand once objected to a photo of her palatial home being published,
00:50:06.560 which only caused people to want to look at the photo of her palatial home even more. And that's
00:50:13.360 what they're doing to Tommy. The more they censor him, the more people want to know what's so bad
00:50:19.280 that they have to censor him. And then they realize that what he is saying is true, but inconvenient
00:50:29.360 and difficult to the establishment. The real rant room says it's never ending. What a joke. They're
00:50:36.640 throwing anything that sticks. Yeah, absolutely true. They're trying anything. I mean, if you watch
00:50:44.000 that interview with Tommy, he says that he was recharged, like charged like hours after getting
00:50:55.200 out of jail where he was in, uh, where he was being held for civil contempt of court for publishing a
00:51:04.080 documentary about grooming gangs. And he had been in there for months and months and they just can't
00:51:13.280 have Tommy walk in the streets, can they? Being public enemy number one of the establishment. And so
00:51:21.760 he's out. They picked him right back up. These charges stem from August of 2024. They had him for
00:51:28.720 seven months. They could have charged him at any point. Uh, but the idea was to charge him and
00:51:34.160 hopefully he would thus go back to jail and not be released on conditions, but shocking, shocking to
00:51:39.280 even myself, they did release him. Uh, and, uh, Jeff three, Tom, seven, 10 says, well done, dude.
00:51:50.080 John Shank 251 says you're one hell of a man that you are doing so proud to support you. If only by writing.
00:51:58.720 Yeah. William Keith 8740 says love rebel news supporting rational thinkers and patriots.
00:52:09.120 Uh, I think you must support the truth, right? And sometimes you can't change the injustice in
00:52:20.880 front of you, but alone. But if you talk about it, if you show people it, maybe, maybe you'll make a
00:52:29.600 difference. Maybe you'll change hearts and minds, but maybe you won't, but at least it's better than
00:52:34.800 nothing. And just standing by sort of saying like, it's just little old me. What can I do?
00:52:42.240 You could talk about it, tell everybody, you know, about it. And sometimes that's,
00:52:49.920 that's better than nothing. And sometimes that's as effective as anything. Okay. Well,
00:52:56.000 everybody, that's the show for today. Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here
00:53:00.640 in the same time, in the same place next week. It might not be in the same place. I don't know what
00:53:04.720 I'm doing next week. I shouldn't make those promises. But as I always say, don't let the government
00:53:11.280 tell you that you've had too much to think.