Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Rick Igercich on how Justin Trudeau become the most effective handgun salesman in Canada

00:00:00.000 How did Canada's stupidest man become our best firearms salesman?

00:00:05.420 My guest tonight explains. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:00:09.080 The Gunn Show.

00:00:39.080 And men like Justin Trudeau are lazy and not very bright.

00:00:44.340 And instead of tackling the gang crisis in Canada's cities, tightening up our borders, and dealing with the opioid crisis that's fueling gang violence, he's decided to swim down the path of least resistance.

00:00:59.920 And that is to go after people who jump through hoops every single day just to maintain the private ownership of their firearms.

00:01:09.080 But it's been seven years of this, and I think some people may have forgotten Justin Trudeau's own history.

00:01:17.340 So tonight I've called in someone who can sort of rehash the history of Justin Trudeau's attacks on the law-abiding firearms-owning community here in Canada.

00:01:27.860 So tonight joining me in an interview we recorded earlier this morning is Rick Igersich from the National Firearms Association.

00:01:36.200 Take a listen.

00:01:36.720 Joining me now from the National Firearms Association is Rick Igersich to sort of walk us through how we got to Canada's dumbest man inadvertently becoming Canada's best handgun salesman and then having to do something completely undemocratic to fix that.

00:02:01.100 Rick, thanks for joining me.

00:02:02.460 Why don't you tell people a little bit about the work that the NFA does?

00:02:06.340 I'm Rick Igersich.

00:02:07.280 I'm the president of Canada's National Firearms Association.

00:02:11.380 What the NFA is all about, we're Canada's largest advocacy group.

00:02:17.280 Our job is basically to educate politicians, lobby politicians, and try to get some changes into some of the ridiculous firearm rules that lately the Liberals have been dropping on us.

00:02:32.460 I think you guys have been around since the 70s.

00:02:35.380 So we're approaching 50 years of advocacy from the NFA.

00:02:38.820 So you've sort of shepherded the Canadian public through the introduction of the gun registry, then the repeal of the gun registry, and now this latest liberal attack on our firearms rights.

00:02:50.320 So, you know, you've really been around and you guys have seen it all.

00:02:54.920 And that's why I wanted to have you on the show today, because I thought that our public and our viewers here at Rebel News, we do have a lot of Americans who watch us.

00:03:03.920 And the Canadian firearms community, I think they're particularly in tune to how quickly politicians' rhetoric can turn into law, just like that.

00:03:16.620 So we don't have the same sort of democratic protections that they have in the United States, because their gun rights are protected and codified in law.

00:03:25.720 So we don't have that here.

00:03:26.880 And I would say that our gun owners are a little bit more quiet, because you know that you could be hit with a confiscation like that.

00:03:38.080 So a lot of times you don't want to speak up, because you don't want them to know what you have, right?

00:03:42.640 Exactly.

00:03:43.600 You know, and it all, it basically, it started, the latest barrage from the liberals, Justin Trudeau's liberals, started basically on May 1st, 2020, with the order and council banning 1,500 types of firearms, and counting, I believe it's up to 1,800 now.

00:04:02.140 You know, he basically dropped that on Canadians after the tragic events in Nova Scotia, he used that as his tool to drop this on us.

00:04:15.860 So, you know, and basically, the order and council is banning more than what Trudeau calls his assault weapons.

00:04:25.360 There's several firearms on there.

00:04:27.120 You know, he's basing stuff on caliber, bore diameter, stuff that, you know, there's hunting rifles on there.

00:04:34.220 I think, sorry to interrupt you, Rick, I think there's a 410 bird gun on there.

00:04:38.880 I'm not sure about the 410 bird gun.

00:04:40.820 I think there is.

00:04:42.200 I think there's a 410 bird gun on there, I think.

00:04:45.160 And just so people understand, an order and council does not go before parliament.

00:04:50.160 It's basically a list, they sign off on it, and that's it.

00:04:54.020 It's as undemocratic as it comes.

00:04:57.120 Yes, it is.

00:04:57.960 It definitely is.

00:04:58.840 And, you know, he did that.

00:05:00.080 He did that.

00:05:00.880 It's all related.

00:05:03.540 And it's the classic liberal, you know, spin it towards the firearms owners to get the heat off themselves, which we see all the time in the, you know, as far as Canadian firearms owners go.

00:05:17.720 We always seem to be the scapegoat.

00:05:19.660 But, like I say, the order and council have banned 1,500 types of firearms, and they're adding firearms to that list every day.

00:05:27.880 And, you know, it's nothing short of ridiculous.

00:05:31.340 We did get amnesty until 2023, which, you know, just spreads things out.

00:05:41.680 There is a few court cases that are in place right now.

00:05:46.980 We're actually funding one of them.

00:05:49.920 Ours is the Premack versus Canada case.

00:05:52.320 That's the one we're funding.

00:05:54.720 You know, but everything seems to be stalled in Ottawa right now.

00:05:58.640 You know, to get a court date, we don't know when this is going to go to court.

00:06:02.040 And I don't think they really want to take it to court right now.

00:06:06.960 I think they're going to try to push it to the end, but we'll see.

00:06:09.320 But Solomon Friedman is working on the case that we're funding, so we'll see where that goes.

00:06:16.800 Before you move on from there, why don't you tell us what that case is a little bit about?

00:06:21.120 I really can't talk about the case right now because it is Cassie Premack.

00:06:26.060 It is Cassie Premack versus Canada.

00:06:28.240 You know, I can't really comment on the case right now, but yeah, it's definitely, you know, finding that this order in council is not a lawful order, basically.

00:06:44.240 You know, there are also, before we move on, so people understand, there are firearms manufacturers in this country whose complete business was wiped out by this order in council

00:06:55.700 because some of them only make one model, and that model was on the list, and they had no notice, and so their entire business model was just destroyed by the liberals

00:07:05.620 because the liberals reacted to a mass shooting done by someone who wasn't supposed to be in possession of firearms,

00:07:13.700 used that to scapegoat the entire firearms community, and destroyed businesses along the way.

00:07:18.780 Yeah, it destroyed them in a lot of different ways.

00:07:21.700 You know, it did close some businesses down, but other businesses were hung with thousands,

00:07:27.840 if not hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of stock that they can't sell.

00:07:31.960 Just like, you know, I know a local business here that has several of those types of firearms,

00:07:37.540 and right now they're waiting to see what happens.

00:07:40.460 Public Safety Minister Mendocino did say that there is going to be some sort of buyout to the retailers in the next few months.

00:07:55.460 You know, they did release some ridiculous numbers with some pricing which are nowhere close to what these firearms are worth,

00:08:03.420 but they're going to offer the businesses some money to buy these firearms.

00:08:09.940 I don't know what the businesses are going to do.

00:08:11.740 You know, a lot of people are in a bad position because of all this stock and all this money they have laid out,

00:08:16.700 but the NFA is of the opinion that, you know, we're going to wait out until the end of the amnesty and see what happens.

00:08:22.920 You know, let some of these court challenges get looked at and go from there.

00:08:27.980 Yeah, that's an interesting point that you're making.

00:08:30.260 There is a gun buyback program, but why should Canadian taxpayers be on the hook for the destruction that the liberals have caused in other people's businesses?

00:08:40.440 Because at the end of the day, this is going to be a multi-billion dollar buyback of assets, stranded assets, as they say in the oil industry.

00:08:49.160 The Canadian taxpayers should not be on the hook for any of this.

00:08:52.540 None of it should be happening to start with, but then Canadian taxpayers are being stuck with this,

00:08:56.920 and the liberals are patting themselves on the back saying, look what we did.

00:09:00.060 We're helping them out after we've ruined their business.

00:09:02.800 Yeah.

00:09:03.180 I don't know.

00:09:04.100 They have a different definition of a buyback than I do.

00:09:07.740 I'm of the impression that you had to own something in the first place to buy it back.

00:09:12.700 And then again, like you said, using our own taxpayers' money to buy back something they didn't own in the first place just doesn't make a lot of sense to me, Sheila.

00:09:21.380 So let's move from there to what's happening now with the liberals are happening, and then they've somehow managed to make it even worse.

00:09:32.380 They've decided to ban handguns, really, that at the end of the day, that's what they plan to do.

00:09:38.940 And they're going to do it through several different steps.

00:09:41.440 Why don't you walk us through how the liberals are planning to do that?

00:09:45.120 Well, why don't we just backtrack a little bit to Bill C-71 before Bill C-21, which is the handgun ban.

00:09:52.600 Back in July 7th of 2021, the liberals enacted Bill C-71, which included lifetime background checks, where it used to be five years.

00:10:06.000 Now they can go back your whole life to do a background check.

00:10:09.580 So if you had some sort of offense when you were young or something, and it was 20 or 30 years ago, they can take that into account.

00:10:16.680 And I've been actually hearing that some PALs and restricted PAL licenses have been denied for that reason.

00:10:25.140 Also with that, Bill, the authorization to transport a restricted firearm was limited to and from ranges and to your residence after a purchase from a gun shop.

00:10:37.960 Before that, your authorization to transport was valid for gun clubs like it is.

00:10:46.400 But it was also valid to border crossings.

00:10:48.380 It was valid to other provinces.

00:10:50.380 Now they restricted that.

00:10:53.200 Even right now, you need an authorization to transport to go to a business for an appraisal or repair your firearm.

00:11:01.700 You need an authorization to transport to go to gun shows or a port of entry or exit in Canada.

00:11:07.660 So they restricted that.

00:11:10.440 And then it gets worse.

00:11:11.780 The second part of C-71, which became effective on May 18, 2022, was the license verification part of it.

00:11:20.560 So basically, license verification and business keeping for non-restricted firearms.

00:11:26.180 So what that is, is if you buy a long gun from a gun shop, they have to keep a record of that firearm.

00:11:37.460 But they also have to call CFO and get an authorization number so the CFO can do a background check on you before they can sell you that firearm.

00:11:47.900 So there's an authorization number attached to that firearm on the record now.

00:11:54.840 Before, it was just if you had a valid PAL, you could purchase that firearm and walk out with it that day.

00:12:00.320 And there's all kinds of issues with that also, because as far as one-on-one individuals purchasing firearms off of other individuals, you run into the problem of, okay, they basically are making the seller keep records for the government.

00:12:19.600 Actually, there's no time limit on that, as far as I know yet.

00:12:26.240 But it's the same process.

00:12:27.960 Call CFO, get a transfer number, you know, and whether or not they approve the, if they don't approve the transfer number, for instance, at a gun sale, that person wants to buy that gun.

00:12:39.680 He's got a valid license, but he doesn't get that gun that day.

00:12:41.960 And it gets worse, too, because usually gun shows are on weekends, and their portal is so jammed that people can't get through.

00:12:49.460 And I'm in Ontario here, and I've noticed that most gun shows have been canceled now because of that.

00:12:55.280 It basically killed another part of the economy just by that part of the bill.

00:13:00.740 It's, in my opinion, in the NFA's opinion, it's nothing, it's a long gun registry 2.0.

00:13:06.500 Yeah, that's, as you were talking, I just wrote that down.

00:13:09.620 This is just a backdoor registry, and where they get to say it's not a registry, it's just records keeping by the retailer.

00:13:16.120 But the retailer has to turn them over to the government if the government demands them.

00:13:19.900 Now, I want to ask you, how does this affect competitive shooters in Canada?

00:13:23.620 Because we have some of the best competitive shooters in the world, and Justin Trudeau, in a former life, he used to be,

00:13:31.720 I think this was his highest position in government when he was in opposition, he was the critic for amateur sport, which included competitive shooting.

00:13:42.320 But this basically wipes them out, does it not?

00:13:45.960 Bill C-71 doesn't wipe them out.

00:13:48.500 It definitely keeps track of their firearms.

00:13:50.780 But when we get into Bill C-21, that could lead to some real issues as far as competitive shooters go.

00:13:58.920 So, especially the Bill C-21, Bill C-21 has several parts to it.

00:14:05.480 The biggest ones that we're concerned with right now, and we could have four of these meetings and not cover everything,

00:14:13.640 but what the Liberals want to do is they want to freeze all import and movement of handguns in Canada.

00:14:22.620 So, basically, what is going on right now, Marco Mendocino announced last week that he was going to stop the import of all handguns into Canada in a few days.

00:14:37.260 So, that basically stifles the whole handgun industry in Canada.

00:14:42.880 And as far as sport shooters, if this bill becomes law and they put a handgun freeze into place, which is basically, if you own a handgun, you can't move that gun, you can't give it to your heirs, you can't sell it.

00:15:02.020 It's your firearm until you pass away, and then it goes back to the government.

00:15:06.120 So, if there's new competitive shooters coming into the sport, like IPSC, IDPA, Olympic target shooting,

00:15:17.240 these people right now aren't going to be able to get these firearms.

00:15:22.580 Although there is a clause that Trudeau put in there that sport shooters, and he didn't really clarify on what type of sport shooters are still going to be able to purchase these firearms.

00:15:36.560 So, I don't know, you know, I'm a sport shooter.

00:15:39.540 Am I going to be able to buy these guns or is it going to be limited to government vetted Olympic athletes?

00:15:46.160 I'm not sure.

00:15:46.760 There's nothing clear in this bill at all.

00:15:48.760 Well, and how do you become somebody who's at the level to compete in the Olympics if you're not able to access training and ranges and firearms up until such time as you become an Olympic sport shooter?

00:16:03.600 Basically, it ends the sport right here, but there's no opportunity for new people to join.

00:16:10.980 You're right, Sheila.

00:16:12.220 That basically ends it for anybody new joining the sport.

00:16:15.960 You know, there's sport shooters out there that have firearms that can continue their sport.

00:16:21.300 But as far as anybody coming up through the ranks to become, you know, a world level or Olympic level athlete,

00:16:27.880 you basically haven't got a chance because it doesn't, you need to own them firearms to get to that level.

00:16:34.060 It's just like you need to be a professional skier.

00:16:37.020 You had to start on skis when you were a little, when you were younger and, you know, and move in that direction.

00:16:42.960 So if you haven't got the equipment to do it, I don't think, I don't think you'll, you'll ever get to that level.

00:16:49.400 And I don't, and if this bill does go through, that's basically going to put the end of Canadian shooting sports in, on, on the world level and, and on the Canadian level too, because, you know, the people that are involved in it right now are, when they're done, they're done.

00:17:04.800 And there's nobody, there's nobody to follow up on that stuff.

00:17:07.400 And the other part of it too, is, you know, besides the, besides the sport shooting, there's people out there with, with great big collections of firearms that are worth, you know, a lot of money.

00:17:19.320 And these people can't leave this stuff to their heirs.

00:17:22.400 You know, I know people that have hundreds of thousands of dollars invested into handguns.

00:17:26.800 And basically what are they going to do with them now?

00:17:29.220 They can't move them.

00:17:30.340 You know, they, they kind of stifles, stifled us a bit when they, when they prohibited a lot of firearms and they grandfathered a few people into, into that.

00:17:38.420 But now, now the guns are, what you own is what you got.

00:17:42.580 And when you, when you pass away, they, they go back to the state, which definitely isn't right.

00:17:48.600 And I don't even know if it, if it's legal, but that's where we're at right now.

00:17:52.580 And I just wanted to touch on something else with Bill C20, C21.

00:17:57.500 They also mentioned magazine bans that limit everything to five shots.

00:18:03.280 Well, they never thought that out very much either because a lot of firearms and you're familiar with, with a lever action firearm that has a tube underneath it.

00:18:12.580 That holds seven or eight or nine rounds of ammunition that can't be done on those.

00:18:17.200 The gun will not function.

00:18:18.960 If you block that tube to five shots, it's a, this bill, you know, this bill was, wasn't thought out very well.

00:18:28.220 And if it comes into force, there's going to be all kinds of problems with it.

00:18:32.400 Yeah.

00:18:32.880 It reads as though it was drafted by someone who's never actually used a firearm or been around a firearm.

00:18:39.140 Well, the order in council, I have no doubt was drafted with the same type of people, a bunch of lawyers and probably some RCMP guys that, you know, aren't, aren't sport shooters or aren't hunters or aren't anything else.

00:18:54.200 And they came up with this list and, and then this, this, this, this whole thing, like you say, it's definitely not done by firearms people.

00:19:03.120 So I'm, I'm pretty sure of that.

00:19:04.920 Well, and I wanted to point out just how undemocratic this bill is because Justin Cho announced that in the fall, I think it was the timeline that he gave in the first place that he would be banning the sales and importation of handguns.

00:19:18.400 So that of course, naturally put a run on handguns and ammunition and handgun imports.

00:19:25.340 So then he moved the timeline up.

00:19:27.960 So this bill hasn't gone to parliament there summer.

00:19:32.520 So they don't sit, they don't do anything.

00:19:34.160 They go to barbecues.

00:19:34.900 And instead of just letting democracy take its course and accepting the L because he announced the timeline and then naturally people just went out and bought guns.

00:19:47.100 He's decided, no, you know what?

00:19:49.260 We don't need to answer to parliament.

00:19:50.920 We don't need to answer to the people.

00:19:52.100 We're bringing in this ban right now because we know our bill is going to pass in February or sorry, in, in the fall.

00:20:00.680 And so now, like you said, in just a couple of days, we cannot import another handgun into this country.

00:20:06.940 Yeah, it's crazy.

00:20:07.600 It's crazy, Sheila.

00:20:08.500 It really is.

00:20:09.860 And, you know, it's classic.

00:20:12.260 It's classic.

00:20:13.280 It's a classic liberal move of what they're doing.

00:20:16.180 You know, this bill isn't it isn't a law.

00:20:19.620 It's went through.

00:20:20.800 I believe it's went through second reading.

00:20:23.080 It hasn't it hasn't gone through royal assent.

00:20:26.360 So basically, Parliament, Parliament is on their summer break right now.

00:20:31.420 But this stuff is happening during summer break, you know, and, you know, you know, Justin Trudeau, Marco Mendocino, definitely handgun salesman of the year.

00:20:40.440 There's no doubt about that.

00:20:41.840 The shelves are basically empty across Canada.

00:20:45.600 You can't it's hard to go into any gun shop right now to find a handgun to buy because there isn't any.

00:20:51.780 I know there's some still coming in.

00:20:53.440 I've heard that some imports are still coming in, but that's going to end in a few days.

00:20:59.800 You know, it just it's a there's no reasoning behind what they do.

00:21:05.960 You know, you know, implementing part of this bill basically during the summer break by some sort of ordering council.

00:21:15.000 Well, I don't I don't see I don't see why they're doing it, why they're doing it that way or or there's no there's no reasoning behind it.

00:21:22.920 It's just they're they seem to be jumping all over the map with this stuff.

00:21:26.480 I think I think part of the problem was that they saw that handgun sales went through the roof and maybe they thought they'd put a lid on that.

00:21:34.240 I don't know.

00:21:35.160 I really don't know.

00:21:35.980 Well, and I guess it all goes back to if it ain't broke, don't fix it, which takes us back to the ordering council.

00:21:44.480 If you look at I was pulled up the latest crime statistics this morning and the overall crime rate in Canada has increased by point seven percent between 20 and 2021.

00:21:57.280 So since they banned 15 now, probably eighteen hundred models of handguns, violent crime has increased by five point one percent.

00:22:05.740 Nonviolent crime declined by two point eight percent.

00:22:08.940 So violent crime is up substantially across the country.

00:22:13.280 The same problems that plagued Canada's big cities are still plaguing Canada's big cities because instead of focusing on gangs, which is really what this is all about, they focus on the most law abiding people in the country and then say, look what we did.

00:22:28.240 We're saving Canadians.

00:22:29.880 We're making we're making everybody safer.

00:22:32.480 Well, I mean, if you are a gangster in this country, your best friends are the liberals because they're busy blaming everybody else for your crimes.

00:22:39.300 Exactly.

00:22:39.900 You know, and that that you know, we made that point earlier.

00:22:42.400 They're not they're not they're not going to the root of the problem.

00:22:46.280 They're they're trying to to go sideways.

00:22:50.080 And that that's towards Canadian firearms owners to, you know, to divert divert the divert attention of what's really going on with the Liberal Party of Canada.

00:23:01.620 You know, their marriage made in heaven with the NDP and stuff.

00:23:04.680 I don't think I don't think that's too stable these days.

00:23:07.400 And I think there's a lot of other stuff going on.

00:23:10.820 But, you know, I've said I've said this before.

00:23:13.400 And, you know, they they turn to two things.

00:23:15.940 They turn to to to firearms owners and they turn to discrimination.

00:23:20.500 That's what they use every time when they get a little heat on them.

00:23:23.360 And I believe that's what's going on right now.

00:23:25.120 Yeah, I'm glad you brought up discrimination, because I think that's the last thing on my list that I wanted to talk to you about.

00:23:31.060 And I think I'm probably dumping this on you without you being properly prepared for it.

00:23:34.920 But Bill C-5 Bill C-5 actually lowers the sentences for violent crimes, particularly a whole slate of firearms and weapons related offenses as a way to combat systemic racism.

00:23:50.620 So, again, they continue to let the gangsters off the hook while taking the path of least resistance because liberals are lazy and they go after the most law abiding people because they know we jump through hoops every day just to own a gun.

00:24:05.000 And we submit ourselves willingly to an everyday background check that may or may not include our social media postings.

00:24:12.440 We'll do all of that just to maintain the use of our private property.

00:24:19.020 And yet recidivist gangsters are getting reduced sentences because of systemic racism.

00:24:27.380 Yeah. And associating us and associating associating us with racism, which doesn't make any sense at all.

00:24:35.000 But you know what? It really it really it really looks good in the in the liberal headlines when they do that stuff.

00:24:40.740 But, you know, it just you know, like I said before, it takes the heat off of Justin Trudeau of what's really going on.

00:24:48.500 Now, I wanted to give you an opportunity to let people know how they can support the work that the NFA does.

00:24:54.880 And through supporting your work, you're also supporting that court case as it winds its way through the court system.

00:25:03.040 I think the liberals are probably ragging the puck on a lot of these cases just to make it over the deadline for when the amnesty is over.

00:25:11.040 But how do people support the work that the NFA does?

00:25:13.480 Well, people can support the NFA. They can they can support us by becoming a member, buying a membership.

00:25:21.020 All money, all money. The NFA board of directors, including myself, are all volunteers.

00:25:27.020 So we're not we're not a paid board of directors.

00:25:30.160 A couple of us get small stipends for for the for some of the extra stuff we do.

00:25:35.140 But they can support us by buying a membership.

00:25:37.600 The money all directly goes back into into firearms rights.

00:25:42.880 We do have I just like to mention that we do have a full time lobbyist in Ottawa.

00:25:47.400 His name is Charles Zatch, and he's working all the times in the front lines and behind the scenes,

00:25:52.980 lobbying politicians on a daily basis, trying to get some of this stuff changed.

00:25:57.600 So the best way to support the NFA is donate, donate to buy a membership or donate to Canada's National Firearms Association.

00:26:05.000 And we we appreciate it. And like I say, we're not non for profit organization.

00:26:10.220 So donations donations help us keep making sure that you guys are going to keep your firearms.

00:26:17.580 Great, Rick. Thanks so much for coming on the show.

00:26:19.460 And hopefully we can have you back on again very, very soon.

00:26:23.060 I'm a little embarrassed. It took so long to have you on the show.

00:26:26.440 Thanks, Sheila. Thanks for having me and have a great day.

00:26:31.060 You too.

00:26:35.000 So this is the portion of the show where we invite your viewer comments, your questions, your concerns.

00:26:45.220 Unlike the mainstream media, they just want to take your money and never hear from you again.

00:26:50.120 We care what our viewers think about the work that we're doing.

00:26:53.720 So if you want to send me a viewer comment, you want me to read it on air, it's really easy.

00:26:59.080 Just send it to Sheila at rebelnews.com. Put gun show letters in the subject line and I just pick it at random and I'll read it on air.

00:27:08.500 And sometimes I head on over to the rumble comments on our stories.

00:27:11.780 So do not hesitate to leave a comment on our rumble stories because who knows, I might find it and then read it on air.

00:27:20.760 And actually today I take all my comments from our rumble story about my trip to Geneva.

00:27:27.740 I just actually got in, well, I guess it would have been this morning at two in the morning, finally made it home.

00:27:36.940 But anyway, on our story about my trip all the way to Geneva and back with our lawyer, Sarah Miller.

00:27:44.580 She's the lawyer for Pastor Art Poloski also.

00:27:47.360 So, so, you know, she cares deeply about civil liberties and we went there to hand deliver a human rights complaint to the Human Rights Council there.

00:27:56.060 And it was meticulously drafted complaint by Sarah Miller and it filled an entire three page binder, just the evidence.

00:28:03.700 The complaint itself is about 15 pages long, but then all of her supporting evidence for her claims, I would guess 500, maybe a thousand pages.

00:28:13.080 I mean, it filled a three, three inch binder full, full.

00:28:16.940 So anyway, on our story about my trip to Geneva.

00:28:21.940 Zachotic 9 writes, paraphrasing from memory, one of the most important things rebel has ever done.

00:28:29.320 If it pans out, it might be the embarrassment Trudeau would feel getting scolded by the UN globalists for human rights violations priceless.

00:28:36.880 Well, that's exactly it.

00:28:37.880 You never know who these madmen on the Human Rights Council are going to turn on today.

00:28:44.640 And a lot of it is to deflect away from their own human rights violations.

00:28:47.920 They cycle people on and off the council, but it has been occupied by the likes of Russia, China, sometimes Iran, the world's human rights abusers. 0.71

00:28:58.660 They end up on these councils, and sometimes the best way to deflect away from the things that they are doing at home is to say, you know what?

00:29:08.040 Look at Justin Trudeau.

00:29:09.080 Look what he's doing.

00:29:10.220 Don't look at our concentration camps.

00:29:12.280 And maybe we might get that out of our trip to the United Nations.

00:29:16.680 Who knows?

00:29:17.200 So either we're going to embarrass Justin Trudeau, or we are going to prove to the world that the UN is toothless when it comes to human rights violations, that they really don't care about human rights.

00:29:29.680 And, you know what?

00:29:31.320 I would be satisfied either way.

00:29:32.940 I think both things, if they come to be, will be a success either way.

00:29:37.100 And more importantly, we did something.

00:29:38.840 Mitch Kahn writes, so thankful for Sheila and Sarah traveling all the way to Geneva and putting themselves out there on our behalf, not to mention the hard work that evidently went into the meticulously outlined three-inch binder full of stuff.

00:29:54.040 You know, like I just said, what else could we do?

00:29:56.520 You know, the courts have failed by and large here in Canada.

00:30:01.780 The politicians have failed us.

00:30:03.220 The opposition are just speaking up now two years into the human rights infractions under the auspices of the pandemic.

00:30:13.980 But I think, you know, governments use any excuse they can to crush dissent.

00:30:19.580 This time they use the pandemic, but they really use anything.

00:30:23.000 In China, they use public safety.

00:30:25.520 They say, you know, they bring in these public safety laws to crack down on dissidents in Hong Kong.

00:30:31.800 So really, they use anything they can to overreach.

00:30:35.400 In Canada, they used the pandemic.

00:30:37.840 But what else could we do?

00:30:39.480 Like I said, the politicians have failed.

00:30:40.980 The courts have failed.

00:30:42.840 Our systems have failed.

00:30:44.980 The police have failed to some extent.

00:30:48.020 The military are kicking out conscientious objectors.

00:30:52.860 Academia is kicking out ethics professors who care about bioethics.

00:30:59.100 Those people are kicked out.

00:31:00.380 What else could we do?

00:31:02.300 And, you know, the United Nations says they care about this sort of stuff.

00:31:05.180 Let's see them prove it.

00:31:07.400 And CWC 57 says, waste of time.

00:31:11.480 They're all commie scum. 0.94

00:31:12.900 Well, that might be.

00:31:14.540 But I don't think it's ever a waste of time to fight for human rights.

00:31:19.800 I just don't.

00:31:20.800 And maybe it's futile.

00:31:23.340 Maybe it's not.

00:31:24.360 But unlike a lot of people out there, I can say that I did something about it.

00:31:28.780 And for anybody who donated to cover the cost of our trip there, you can say that you were actively involved in a human rights movement that went all the way to Geneva, Switzerland.

00:31:40.960 And we can say that we documented as many of those human rights abuses as we possibly could.

00:31:47.480 And, you know, if people want to still continue to donate to cover the cost of our mission there, as Mitch Kan points out, Sarah put a lot of work into her evidence.

00:32:00.120 And she's a phenomenal lawyer. 0.76

00:32:03.520 Her work isn't cheap. 1.00

00:32:05.360 We did do our best to keep our flights cheap.

00:32:08.540 But you can see in my interview with Ezra just how cheap we went on those flights.

00:32:13.560 It wasn't really our fault.

00:32:15.200 Air Canada rebooked me and sent me to Vancouver and then in the other direction.

00:32:19.840 But anyway, we did our best to save money.

00:32:22.360 We didn't spend a lot of time on the ground.

00:32:23.640 I think I was only on the ground in Geneva 20 or 22 hours before I had to turn around and come back.

00:32:30.120 So, anyways, if you want to support our work and our trip there and Sarah's legal costs, you can visit humanrightscomplaint.com.

00:32:37.040 And there you can see the complaint.

00:32:39.380 We're going to take Sarah's evidence and we'll upload that there.

00:32:44.040 But it is a huge file.

00:32:45.880 And you can also see our stamped receipt of delivery to the United Nations.

00:32:51.160 So they did acknowledge that they have received our complaint and they're going to send it up the chain wherever it may end up.

00:32:58.100 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:33:00.380 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:33:01.620 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.

00:33:05.260 And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:33:08.940 And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:33:39.020 Thank you.

00:33:39.440 Thank you.

00:33:40.060 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - August 11, 2022

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