SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Roe v. Wade for young conservatives with Kat Krozonouski and Nat Biase
Episode Stats
Words per Minute
175.80128
Summary
Kat and Nat discuss the recent Supreme Court decision overturning Roe v. Wade and why the left is losing the culture war, and why it s so hard for people to understand what s actually going on. They also discuss why the pro-choice and pro-abortion camps are so hard on women and why we should be too.
Transcript
00:00:30.000
So joining me now from two different spots in Toronto are the ladies who host Misunderstood, Kat and Nat.
00:00:41.020
I wanted to have you on the show because we've had a few victories in the culture war in the last seven days.
00:00:46.980
And I make no bones about it that I've somewhat checked out of the culture war.
00:00:51.540
And a lot of these things are affecting, well, not affecting.
00:00:55.740
I think they affect everybody, but it's your generation who seem to be the loudest and most disgruntled about so many things that I don't think they truly understand.
00:01:06.920
So first, I wanted to get your reactions about the overturning of Roe v. Wade.
00:01:14.620
I see a lot of people who are angrily twerking for justice.
00:01:21.780
And I really don't think they fully understand what just happened.
00:01:29.120
Because a lot of them think it's happening to them.
00:01:39.840
And nothing is going to change in those places.
00:01:43.840
They're going to be aborting babies right up until retirement age.
00:01:47.660
So I don't think much is going to change there.
00:02:00.960
So Kat and I actually touched on this in the most recent episode of Misunderstood.
00:02:04.720
And we debunked some of the four main myths that are kind of being perpetuated by the pro-abortion or pro-choice side.
00:02:10.520
And I think, like, they've just been screaming the same lies for so long.
00:02:15.440
And I think that especially a lot of these women or girls who are so deeply offended by it are in university.
00:02:20.580
And as we know, university is basically an indoctrination camp for these women.
00:02:27.640
Like, there's just no way for these women to access what the overturning of Roe v. Wade actually means.
00:02:34.560
Because the people on the left, the pro-abortionists, are just screaming so loud these lies.
00:02:40.300
And, yeah, I just think that the truth is getting lost.
00:02:44.540
I don't really know how we can punch through it, really, other than, you know, people like us talking about it and trying to, you know, debunk the lies.
00:02:58.920
Like, some of the, I won't go through all the myths, but one of them is that they have lost constitutional rights.
00:03:04.420
And there was never a constitutional right to get an abortion.
00:03:07.580
In fact, Roe v. Wade, as I'm sure we all know, was actually about the privacy that a woman has in getting an abortion.
00:03:12.900
So it was more of a privacy matter that they felt was constitutionally protected under Roe v. Wade.
00:03:17.940
And I think, I'm not a legal expert, but I'm assuming that they were looking at what was going on now.
00:03:22.420
And they're like, okay, the point of the, of Roe v. Wade is not being actually, like, used properly, because it was a privacy issue.
00:03:30.340
And it was funny, because I saw someone on Twitter make this comment, so it's not my original thought, but it was really poignant.
00:03:36.240
This person was like, AOC says, the Supreme Court has no right to dictate what we do with our bodies.
00:03:43.300
Like, that's exactly what the Supreme Court is saying.
00:03:45.260
They're like, it's not a federal, it's not the federal government's job to dictate abortion laws.
00:03:54.220
And they're like, it's like, they're not even listening to what's going on.
00:03:57.760
Yeah, you know, you see them saying that this is anti-democratic, when it's completely the opposite.
00:04:04.160
For people who may be getting all their news from the mainstream media, overturning Roe v. Wade in and of itself does not ban abortion.
00:04:12.280
What it does is it turns an issue that always should have been in the hands of the states back to state legislatures,
00:04:18.840
where elected and accountable people, people who are accountable to the people who elected them, will vote to make a decision.
00:04:28.140
And if they make a decision that the people don't like, those people will become unelected.
00:04:36.280
But for the left, it feels as though they think democracy means doing the things that they want you to do, not, you know, reacting to the will of the people.
00:04:49.940
Yeah, I think they actually equate the word democracy with like leftism, progressivism.
00:04:59.300
It's like, well, sometimes democracy wins the other way.
00:05:02.920
Yeah, I think they've totally like erased what the meaning of that word means, which is what the left does is just confuse everyone with these made up definitions, you know?
00:05:15.240
We see it all the time when they change the meaning of words.
00:05:18.720
They're doing it all the time with vaccination status.
00:05:29.460
Now, and I think that some of the misunderstandings, I don't think that's maybe even the right word, because I think there is purposeful misleading.
00:05:38.460
And then there are people who maybe consume a little bit too much mainstream media who just don't know any better.
00:05:45.240
And then you sort of pile on pop culture on top of that, who are just perpetuating the line over the last little bit.
00:05:57.440
I mean, I know celebrities are not Mensa members by and large, but I've really seen a lot of stupid hot takes lately.
00:06:06.900
Wanda Sykes was one of them where she said, you know, this is, this is anti-democratic.
00:06:17.940
And so you, but you're, I just, I look at these sometimes crusty old women.
00:06:28.100
And I've never met like a, a woman who is a grandma who didn't just viscerally love babies, like have this insane reaction when you see a baby or a grandchild.
00:06:40.500
But these progressive crusty old ladies, they are marching in the streets for their grandchild to be exterminated.
00:06:52.420
And then you see Wanda Sykes and all of them say, well, I have a daughter and, and, and what you have a daughter and what finish that sentence for me, please.
00:07:03.440
And did you guys see that picture of the, the woman who's protesting?
00:07:06.340
I don't know which city was in, but she's very pregnant.
00:07:11.900
And it's like, and she had a kid in her arms and one of the other photos.
00:07:17.040
Like, when does it become a human to her the moment it comes out?
00:07:23.160
And it's like, how are you treating the, the infant fetus inside of you?
00:07:27.120
If you don't think it's human, are you drinking?
00:07:34.960
And like, what are you doing differently for the child that you're holding in your arms?
00:07:42.480
I always find it so confusing when people who have held like carried a child to term.
00:07:53.480
Like you, I just don't understand how these people aren't on the pro-life side.
00:08:01.000
I think it goes to a broader problem with the culture.
00:08:08.600
We see this all the time with the transgender debate.
00:08:18.280
Except in so far as you use the government to make me care.
00:08:21.740
Or you rob opportunities from girls, or, you know, you want to put on some cleats and hit
00:08:27.940
girls on a Saturday instead of play against boys.
00:08:30.680
Um, but you see people who say, well, I feel that therefore I am that, and that whole attitude
00:08:40.340
is completely being replicated in the abortion debate where you say, okay, well, I want this
00:08:48.600
If I don't want this child, even though we're at the same like date of gestation, that humanity
00:08:54.880
is predicated on somebody else's feelings for you.
00:08:57.420
And I think that's a very dangerous place to be.
00:09:00.100
Um, yeah, I think a part of it is like spiritual too.
00:09:04.060
Like, I mean, the reaction we're seeing is like almost demonic, like just the weeping and
00:09:12.600
Yeah, I am being too nice maybe, but it's just, it's honestly, it's horrifying to see these
00:09:17.540
Like, and I don't mean it in like a physical sense, but like, they just look ugly, like
00:09:22.080
just spiritually, these protesters, like there's just something so often like deranged about
00:09:26.740
So I definitely think like, you know, the Prince of Lies is definitely, um, has a hand in
00:09:32.580
And I think that's part of the reason too, other than just the feeling aspect that people
00:09:36.380
are so confused and why this is so chaotic when it just really doesn't need to be like,
00:09:47.160
Like that's all it should be really like, let's not murder babies.
00:09:52.940
You know, I think the whole ethos around it though, is that, you know, I'm going to get
00:09:58.160
letters, but I'm just quoting the things I know, um, that it, it is, um,
00:10:05.560
um, satanic in the sense of the church of Satan, where the mantra is do what thou willst.
00:10:11.800
And, uh, I'm seeing a lot of that, that just, if it feels good, do it.
00:10:16.780
This is just self care, which is just being selfish.
00:10:20.680
Um, but that's, that's how we are framing this issue of human life and personal responsibility
00:10:29.840
And we see it, uh, Jeremy, uh, our friend, Jeremy Lafredo did a really great video.
00:10:35.080
And I don't know where Jeremy falls down on this issue.
00:10:37.940
And I don't think it matters because his work was very clear.
00:10:41.720
He was interviewing a girl getting a street or in New York.
00:10:44.900
And the girl said something along the lines of, well, I'm not, I guess I'm just not going
00:10:53.100
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's what I've been, that's what I've been saying.
00:10:59.500
You, you're coming around to my way of thinking.
00:11:01.940
Um, and you know, people are suddenly thinking that they can punish others by accepting personal
00:11:10.120
It's the most bizarre thing I've ever seen, but you know what?
00:11:19.900
It's like, whenever they say, whenever you see a woman saying, well, I'm not going to
00:11:23.600
It's like, so you're admitting that you use abortion as contraceptive.
00:11:27.020
Like you're admitting that now, because if you can't get an abortion, then you don't
00:11:38.620
It's like, everybody knows one of the implications of sex is pregnancy.
00:11:49.400
And it's, it's funny to see the celebrities again.
00:11:52.760
And I say, um, they're really showing me exactly how stupid they are sometimes, but
00:11:56.600
pink, for example, she's saying, you know, like pro-lifers can't listen to her music deal.
00:12:03.840
Haven't listened to her music since I was 13 years old.
00:12:09.660
So someone from my era, um, he's saying that he's, you know, ashamed to be American and
00:12:17.500
And I think, are you threatening all these people with a good time?
00:12:22.620
Until you said something stupid about abortion and renounce your citizenship over abortion.
00:12:28.680
And I think he did it in the UK, where are there more, there are more strident restrictions
00:12:35.100
on abortion than in his home state of Los Angeles, where, um, you can, I think you can abort a
00:12:45.800
Nat and I've also talked about how, like, and I think maybe with you as well, um, Sheila,
00:12:50.120
how there's nothing creepier than like a super pro abortion male, like the, the president
00:12:56.880
So I, I kind of like, um, he put out a video supporting abortion and it's, he is notorious
00:13:03.040
for dating younger women and sleeping around a lot.
00:13:05.240
So it's like, I saw this funny meme that was like him calculating his child, um, payments
00:13:09.720
that he would have to make if all those women had babies.
00:13:12.540
And it's like, we see right through that, like to be a, a good man, you impregnate a
00:13:17.440
woman, you support the child and you support the woman and you build a family, but these
00:13:23.480
They don't want to do that, but they don't want to give up the sex though.
00:13:25.600
So the only thing that they can do is say, get an abortion, get an abortion.
00:13:29.040
And now they're all like pro super hardcore pro abortion.
00:13:36.920
Ezra said that his, he's that bars, the guy from barstool sports is he's pro-choice because
00:13:44.480
it fits his lifestyle, not for any sort of moral or ethical reason or what I, I struggled
00:13:51.740
to say those words with regard to the pro-choice side, but I mean, he doesn't come by his, uh,
00:13:59.200
Honestly, it's just a purely a selfish lifestyle reason for him.
00:14:02.660
And, but it's interesting to see all these people admitting that they treat other human
00:14:07.320
beings like meat sacks, which is really what this comes down to.
00:14:11.680
So you, uh, you admit that, you know, you just have this promiscuous kind of gross lifestyle,
00:14:18.480
non-committal, um, everybody involved is disposable, including the accidental child.
00:14:23.960
And, um, you know, that their reaction to it is to say, well, maybe I just won't do that
00:14:36.980
That's have some responsibility and be more conscientious about who you sleep with like
00:14:44.400
And a lot of them are like threatening that they're going to sex strike and it's like,
00:14:50.700
Like maybe it's good for you to just maybe take a break.
00:14:57.300
Go on a detox from your bad lifestyle and maybe you'll get some moral clarity.
00:15:05.780
Not just for me, because I think how you're living is kind of gross and bad for everybody
00:15:16.240
Oh, no, I was just going to say, it's a good point because like, you can't
00:15:18.460
kind of mention like the self-love kind of movement.
00:15:20.760
And it's like, actually the most loving thing you can do for yourself is take care of yourself
00:15:25.520
and, you know, try to work hard, build towards things that are productive and fruitful, not
00:15:35.640
And I was going to say, you don't, you never, you know how in the vaccine discussion, you
00:15:40.320
hear people clogging up the medical system if they go to the hospital and they haven't
00:15:45.220
been vaccinated, but you never hear the argument.
00:15:47.300
People who have promiscuous sex are clogging up the medical system when they go to the
00:15:51.300
STD clinic and use up all the antibiotics or whatever.
00:15:54.860
Like you never hear people talking about medical care in that sense, where it's like use getting
00:15:59.540
using nurses time for your abortions or going and getting your whatever treatments you have
00:16:11.660
But with certain things, everyone's so concerned about the medical system and all the time and
00:16:19.700
And it just, you know, it's funny you bring that up because you think about the moral judgment
00:16:23.100
placed on people who get COVID people who are unvaccinated and then they get COVID and
00:16:28.980
those people, they get fingers pointed at them as though it is some arbiter of their moral
00:16:33.700
character that they got sick, you know, but if you got vaccinated and got sick, well, you're
00:16:39.220
But if you were unvaccinated and got sick, you're a bad person.
00:16:41.960
And then we have all these other people over here making these disgusting lifestyle choices.
00:16:49.020
And they should have access to healthcare and don't judge them.
00:16:51.960
Um, yeah, it's such a double standard, but we're used to that as conservative women.
00:16:59.300
Now I wanted to, um, enough about that, um, great win for the culture war and, you know,
00:17:05.460
it was 50 years in the making, by the way, and you never saw any budging, no budging on
00:17:11.500
It seemed actually that it was just going to get worse and worse and worse.
00:17:15.660
And I think a lesson for the conservative movement, and I say small C conservative movement
00:17:21.060
is never stop fighting those battles because it's like putting water behind a dam all the
00:17:25.940
And you never know which droplet of water is just going to cause the dam to break and then
00:17:30.920
wash the evil from the face of the earth in a biblical sense.
00:17:35.300
Anyway, let's, let's move on from, from that to, uh, just, I think it was yesterday as we're
00:17:41.040
recording this, uh, Ghislaine Maxwell was convicted and, um, sort of without a lot of fanfare.
00:17:52.180
Oh, she got a three quarter of a million dollar fine.
00:17:55.320
Uh, she's going to spend a couple of decades in jail.
00:18:03.420
Um, the judge said it, a sentence of 240 months is sufficient and no graver than necessary.
00:18:09.480
So that's 20 years probably won't serve it all.
00:18:11.860
Um, but what bothers me about this is that we don't know her client list.
00:18:19.920
And besides the fact that this woman is absolutely evil, you want to talk satanic.
00:18:26.120
Um, she is the Carla Homolka in all of this, where you have this evil man, but his crimes
00:18:33.280
could not have been possible without the evil woman running cover for all of it.
00:18:39.000
She was the reason those girls got into a car and said, yeah, I'll come back.
00:18:44.660
It's because they had this woman who seemed safe.
00:18:48.200
Teenage girls got in a car and ended up dead at the hands of Paul Bernardo that she's the
00:18:54.120
But what really bothers me and what really sends my little conspiracy, uh, theories just
00:19:00.880
wild is that we are not talking about who we're not talking about who the clients are
00:19:08.860
And, um, and that leads me to believe that they are some very, very, very important
00:19:18.820
I think, um, it's so disgusting that like, again, I agree that, uh, um, Galeen Maxwell
00:19:24.120
should be held accountable and punished for her crimes, but it's super weird that the only
00:19:28.860
person who's actually going to serve time for these crimes is a woman when she wasn't
00:19:36.800
Like she's, she's just as culpable, but who are exactly like, who are the clients?
00:19:41.540
And I totally agree that I think they're powerful people who are currently in power and that
00:19:45.700
we're not going to find out who they were until they're either dead or out of power.
00:19:49.580
And we're all like, I'll be like 70 and then we'll find out, Oh, it was the, it was, you
00:19:56.300
I don't want to name names because that's, you know, but it will find out who these people
00:20:01.060
are and we'll all be like, kind of shocked, but not really.
00:20:05.880
I think there's a lot of powerful men right now getting away with a lot of horrible, horrible
00:20:09.600
things and a lot of scared women who are, are not coming forward either, um, who were
00:20:17.080
victimized because they know these men are powerful enough to crush them.
00:20:35.500
I was just going to say this whole, both of these conversations remind me of, um, the pride
00:20:40.740
parade that took place last week and, um, all of the drag shows that we've seen leading
00:20:45.340
up to it and that nobody really cares about children at the end of the day.
00:20:49.620
Like these, the girls that were the victims of Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein, they
00:20:53.340
were children for the most part, young women and children.
00:21:02.440
And we see that all the time when you like in Toronto, there was a man walking fully
00:21:06.580
nude down the street with a Bugs Bunny mask on completely naked and in any other situation,
00:21:16.400
And there are children in the audience and that's like, no one cares.
00:21:29.180
Um, Allie Beth Stuckey, I think she coined the term that children are always
00:21:32.300
unconsenting subjects to our like adults, weird experiments.
00:21:36.140
And I think we're seeing just such a blatant attack on children in the last few years,
00:21:39.820
even with COVID, you could even throw that in there, uh, the restrictions and how that
00:21:44.600
Like, it's so crazy how our society just like hates them and doesn't want to protect them.
00:21:49.820
And that's our duty as adults and as conservatives and as Christians, like it's insane.
00:21:55.680
I remember my philosophy when my kids were little and I reject the fact that they're grown
00:22:02.820
Um, but when they were little, I, you know, if they wanted to wear a Batman costume, do
00:22:06.460
the grocery store, my philosophy was you're only little once pretty soon.
00:22:11.620
The world is going to be putting all these stupid rules on you and making you care about
00:22:15.540
stuff that you shouldn't care about when you're little.
00:22:17.760
And it happened so fast that I just, you know, if you wanted to dress up in a princess costume,
00:22:22.460
because we're going to the superstar, who cares?
00:22:25.800
But now there's this desire to treat children like little adults, except when they are adults,
00:22:38.360
You know, we have like 30 year olds living in their parents' houses and their parents
00:22:42.200
But at the same time, we're like, yeah, that little person should be perfectly fine with
00:22:46.900
And if we've done enough to confuse them about their gender, let's get them some surgery.
00:22:55.560
And it's just, it's the slippery slope to pedophilia.
00:22:58.880
Like it's, it's, we conservatives were saying this 10 years ago and it's just, we've come
00:23:03.600
so far down the slope and it's like only a couple more meters to go.
00:23:11.820
And I think going back to one of your earlier points, Sheila, that's why it's so important
00:23:14.940
for us to continue to speak up about these and not be silent because who knows when things
00:23:23.180
Like the world is in such an evil, evil state, despite the victory of Roe v.
00:23:31.280
And I think that conservatives need to do more and specifically women too, just speaking
00:23:36.340
out about these issues that really affect us and our kids and our future kids.
00:23:41.860
You know, I don't think we should let the depraved immoral people speak for us.
00:23:46.860
And it reminds me of something Ezra always makes me watch.
00:23:49.780
Every time I see him in person, he will make me watch the Ash conformity test.
00:23:54.740
Has he cornered you in the office and made you watch this yet?
00:24:01.340
And it's, you know, it's an experiment where it was done by people who wanted to sort of
00:24:08.180
investigate why the Holocaust happened, why the seemingly sort of well-educated population
00:24:12.800
went along with things that they knew were evil.
00:24:20.920
And when you have to answer in a group, something, the first person answers wrong.
00:24:28.720
And you're the third person and you know, the answer is different, but you say the wrong
00:24:34.560
And it's the impact of a crowd and peers and even peer pressure that you don't have, but
00:24:42.320
But if you were able to write your answer down, you would write the answer you knew to be
00:24:50.760
And I think, and all it took was one person to say, you know, that that's actually wrong.
00:24:59.600
To break that sort of conformity as it calls it a mind virus.
00:25:06.100
You know, everybody was feeling the same way as the convoy, but these people stood up and
00:25:12.180
said it's wrong and I'm not going along to get along.
00:25:14.740
And that's why all the other people are like, yeah, you know what?
00:25:19.300
And I think it's the same thing with the culture war where, you know, the more people
00:25:24.060
who speak up, the more people break that conformity.
00:25:28.280
And then there does become strength in numbers, that strength of moral conviction when there's
00:25:37.540
If we want to give power and voice to those other people, we want them to find their voice.
00:25:42.480
We've got to talk about these things, even when it's unpopular, even when people are saying,
00:25:47.020
you know, like you girls are a bunch of misogynists because you like babies, you know, like, um,
00:25:54.160
we have to speak up, um, because I think there are more of us than them as our friend, Matt Brevner
00:26:00.680
Especially as Christians, you know, we're called to be bold as lions.
00:26:03.900
And I think like, we just got to have big shoulders and give it to God.
00:26:08.640
And, you know, just, that's how we power through and pick up our cross, so to speak, and just,
00:26:12.560
you know, trudge through because we have eternity to look forward to, you know?
00:26:17.700
So whatever fiery dart is cast our way on earth, like we can handle it because of him,
00:26:33.200
Well, uh, ladies, I know that they need the studio in Toronto.
00:26:36.340
I want to thank you so much for the work that you do, um, to bring a little bit of normal
00:26:43.420
Um, sometimes I feel like younger people are a lost cause, but then I look at my kids
00:26:49.700
and their friends and I realized, no, it's just the loud, crazy people that are just,
00:26:53.520
I find annoying and they end up on the news all the time.
00:26:56.560
But like the ash conformity test shows us once you start speaking up, uh, you know, I think
00:27:04.320
I think you guys, your opinions are the mainstream.
00:27:06.280
Um, we just have to give more people, um, the confidence to speak up.
00:27:14.460
And, um, that's why it's important to have confident young ladies like you on TV all the
00:27:26.580
I see that you're wearing your misunderstood sweater.
00:27:29.660
Uh, you know what, before I let you go, let everybody know when they can find, uh, your
00:27:33.560
show misunderstood and where they can get this incredible brand merchandise that I wrestled
00:27:44.000
Um, so the show airs on rebel news plus every Tuesday at 7 PM Eastern time.
00:27:48.180
So you can subscribe to rebel news plus at rebel news plus.com.
00:27:51.440
The show also airs for free every Saturday at 2 PM.
00:27:53.900
So you can subscribe to our YouTube channel at misunderstood show or head over to watch
00:27:58.440
misunderstanders should Oh, watch misunderstood show.com and it'll be there.
00:28:03.720
And you can also get our merch at misunderstood, merch.com.
00:28:06.960
And you can use the code misunderstood 10 for 10% off your first purchase.
00:28:28.440
We want our viewer feedback on our stories and we invite it.
00:28:34.180
If you'd like to send me an email, you can do that directly by sending an email to Sheila
00:28:39.740
at rebel news.com, put gun show letters in the subject line.
00:28:43.140
So I know where to look and know where to find it because I get a lot of emails like a
00:28:48.960
Um, so I want to make sure that I'm able to find your viewer feedback easily so I can read
00:28:56.700
I just sort of take them at random this week though.
00:28:59.340
We're randomly going over to the comment section on the rumble video of my story about how
00:29:07.360
Justin Trudeau is now labeling plastic straws as schedule one toxins, banning single use
00:29:15.840
plastics and plastic straws are going to be held behind the counter and out of view the
00:29:26.680
And you have to go to the counter and you have to say, please can I have some plastic
00:29:31.780
They're probably going to ask for your doctor's note about why you need them.
00:29:34.740
And then they're going to reach underneath over the counter and get them for you.
00:29:43.380
But anyway, let's go to the comment section and we've got some great viewer feedback on
00:29:50.760
Rumble one D me one, two, three writes the hypocrisy of all this packaging by weight,
00:29:58.840
While that product only fills half the size of the package, such as cereal, many items
00:30:04.760
are shipped in packages, triple its size, but that's mainly recyclable.
00:30:09.140
Single use plastics have to be thought out because plastic takes so long to break down.
00:30:13.400
It's worth the discussion, but Trudeau has to go.
00:30:16.540
Look, I completely agree with you that we are using too much plastic to package up too
00:30:23.760
many things, but I'm not sure that's got anything to do with the convenience of single
00:30:31.040
And I don't even, I don't even really use straws.
00:30:33.720
I just think it's so stupid to ban them because you think my Alberta straws are going to somehow
00:30:43.860
And if they do end up in a river in the Philippines, it's because the Canadian government shipped
00:30:53.540
I think recycling is kind of an energy intensive scam.
00:30:59.940
Did you know that in Burnaby, British Columbia, where all the anti-pipeline activists go to
00:31:06.900
protest the Trans Mountain Pipeline, they have an incineration facility where they burn the
00:31:15.980
And I think this is a wonderful use for plastic because plastic, you can use it once for its
00:31:27.000
But then when it becomes garbage, you get to incinerate it and create energy.
00:31:31.980
And all the while, while you're moving it from one place to another, for one use to another,
00:31:59.520
Is the plastics band stupid and just useless virtue signaling that will sort of serve to
00:32:06.800
decimate the entire Canadian plastics industry?
00:32:15.560
I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.
00:32:19.420
Thanks to everybody in the studio in Toronto for putting the show together.
00:32:23.480
And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.