Sex activists win big in Saskatchewan. We ve got a homophobic billboard in Hamilton, and a team of volleyball girls who didn t want to change in front of a boy are called hateful. All that and more on this week s episode of The Gunn Show with Lise Merle.
00:00:00.000Sex activists win big in Saskatchewan. We've got a homophobic billboard in Hamilton and a team of volleyball girls who didn't want to change in front of a boy are called hateful. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.
00:00:30.000I think we should get right into it. Today's guest really needs no introduction if you're a regular viewer of Rebel News and my work here. It's Lise Merle. She's a Saskatchewan-based contributor to Rebel News. She's one of our live stream hosts. You'll know her from almost all of our election night coverage.
00:00:52.400She does incredible work in the space of parents' rights and she's joining me today to discuss the attacks on gender-based reality in this country, starting with what happened in Saskatchewan when the Court of Appeal there sided with the sex activists. All that and more. Take a listen.
00:01:13.200So joining me now is, well, as many of you know, if you watch the Rebel News Roundup, the Rebel Livestream, my real life best friend, but also regular Rebel News commenter, commentator, Lise Merle from beautiful Regina, Saskatchewan. Beautiful for now.
00:01:38.720But the longer the Liberals are in power, the worse our cities get. And we are going to break down big news out of Saskatchewan this week. A big win for the anti-family federally funded sex activist meddlers in that the Saskatchewan Court of Appeal has sided with the activists
00:02:06.620and greenlighting their challenge of the parents' bill of rights. And I know this is something that Lise has been carefully watching. So I thought, let's have Lise on. Let's break it down together.
00:02:18.820Lise, though, a first reaction because you and I were glued to our computer screens when these legal arguments were being made.
00:02:30.500But maybe before we get into all of that, why don't you give us a quick breakdown of what the Parents' Bill of Rights really is?
00:02:39.220Yes. Well, in Saskatchewan in 2023, the government of Saskatchewan proposed and then passed a law regarding a pronoun policy in Saskatchewan schools,
00:02:52.200which requires parental consent for either name or gender changes for students under 16.
00:03:00.920So this is an initiative that's got real strong support from traditional conservatives, from parents, from grandparents,
00:03:09.220and from, you know, the common sense side of the argument and has fierce opposition from the left.
00:03:17.380So our government, the government of Saskatchewan, used the Notwithstanding Clause to pass this law.
00:03:24.440And what has then happened is that it has continued grinding through our court system.
00:03:30.580So the Notwithstanding Clause did not work in this case as it was intended, because the Notwithstanding Clause is meant to be a backstop.
00:03:41.060When there are clashes between the federal government or charter rights, individual charter rights of children, in this case,
00:03:53.640and what the legislature says that the electorate is telling them they want to happen.
00:04:01.220So there's been a collision of rights.
00:12:00.000Not only did the federal government throw away $11 billion in taxpayer funds at foreign
00:12:06.8402SLGBTQIA initiatives, but the money that they're spending domestically to fight their own people, to fight parents over whose children they are, is absolutely enormous.
00:12:21.080And something that should be unforgivable to the everyday, regular, common-sense Canadian taxpayer.
00:12:32.060It's egregious what's been allowed to happen here.
00:12:40.460Now we have to wait for this to wind its way through the court system, because the judgment really was that it will allow the challenge to go forward.
00:12:49.180So the Court of Appeal has ruled that the appeal will go forward.
00:12:54.700And there are more than a handful of potential outcomes to this.
00:13:00.100So the court could say that the policy violates the rights of 2SLGBTQIA students, and it would be a symbolic ruling, simply because the notwithstanding clause is in effect.
00:13:18.280It could find that it doesn't violate the rights of 2SLGBTQIA students.
00:13:24.080Or, even in a rarer possibility, it could find that cruel and unusual punishment, this could be considered cruel and unusual punishment, which is exceedingly rare that it would be argued,
00:13:42.180but never underestimate the depravity of these leftist gender activist groups to argue that this is cruel and unusual punishment against children, not letting them explore their gender identity completely out of the purview of their parents,
00:14:00.760completely out of the purview without the consent or knowledge of their parents.
00:14:05.600I could, frankly, I could see EGAL trying that.
00:14:10.800And so what that would do is force the government of Saskatchewan to wield the notwithstanding clause again.
00:14:22.040And this is not outside of the realm of possibility either.
00:14:25.780Former Attorney General and Minister of Justice for the province of Saskatchewan, Bronwyn Eyre, also alluded to the fact that she would not hesitate to use the notwithstanding clause again,
00:14:35.420and also to accelerate this all the way to the Supreme Court of Canada.
00:14:39.440So it's unfortunate that Bronwyn Eyre is no longer our Minister of Justice or Attorney General.
00:14:45.280But what we need to hear, the parents of Saskatchewan, and more broadly, the parents of Canada,
00:14:50.960is Saskatchewan's current Attorney General and Minister of Justice tell us that that's exactly what they're going to do to defend and prioritize
00:15:02.420and for their parental rights in Saskatchewan.
00:15:06.060The left, the response of the left is absolutely unhinged and off the hook, but we should not be surprised by it.
00:15:18.320So they're doing a victory dance over this saying,
00:15:20.620How dare the government of Saskatchewan pay thousands of dollars to argue this obvious fact?
00:19:05.680And say what I will about Doug Ford, and I have, Lord knows I have, but he is not as crazy as Andrea Horvath, who now, as the mayor of Hamilton, says that it is transphobic to put up a billboard that says, let kids be.
00:19:25.200This is a billboard from letkidsbe.ca, and it's an organization that calls for stopping the medical transition of minors.
00:19:35.160They don't even say, like, stop the medical transition of adults.
00:19:38.960Their focus is simply on irrevocable medical interventions on gender-confused children.
00:19:46.640Apparently, according to Andrea Horvath, that's transphobic and...
00:19:53.160Hateful and disrespectful, I think she says.
00:19:56.000Yes, and she pressured the private company in charge of the billboard, Astral Media, to remove it because while the city doesn't own the billboard company, they own the public land that the billboard company has leased to erect the billboard.
00:20:15.100And because of that, the city of Hamilton has decided they have editorial control over what happens on the billboard, which is absolutely outrageous.
00:20:27.460This is a perfect example of government overreach.
00:20:30.160In this case, it is municipal government overreach because Andrea Horvath, who has a, well, who has a personal life that might explain some of her opinions, put pressure on them from the municipal government, put pressure on the media company to remove this.
00:20:49.140She pre-labeled it in the public sphere as homophobic, hateful, and disrespectful, when it is none of the above, none of the above.
00:20:59.220There's nothing hateful or disrespectful about safeguarding children and advocating on behalf of families.
00:21:07.200Obviously, the group that put the billboard up knew that it was going to be speaking to its local environment.
00:21:16.140And made that distinct choice to put up that board.
00:21:21.220And I think when common sense, real normal people, you know, regular normal people see that billboard, they're going to go, there's nothing incorrect about that billboard at all.
00:21:33.860And yet, this is a censorship that we are seeing in Canada.
00:21:37.740This is an act of government censorship in action right now, saying nothing more than leave the kids alone.
00:21:56.340They're doing it in the United States.
00:21:58.280We are doing our best to protect kids from medical transition here in Alberta.
00:22:02.160But Denmark, you know, the UK, Switzerland, the Netherlands, all of them have backpedaled on their wide embrace of the gender-affirming model of health care for children.
00:22:20.340All of them have looked at the evidence, have heard the actual experts, and what they all say is that there is no evidence to prove that gender-affirming care actually helps children suffering from gender dysphoria.
00:22:37.300As a matter of fact, what the statistics show is it has the opposite effect.
00:22:42.320So when you begin affirming the gender of a young person, it actually has the potential to harm them.
00:22:54.620The risk of harm is much, much greater than any good it can offer.
00:22:59.000And when you hear gender activists, and they are so prolific in their lies, when you hear them say, you know, if gender-affirming health care is withheld from these vulnerable youths,
00:23:15.000while these vulnerable youths are going to do something, you know, are apt to do something really extreme, like unalive themselves, what they're doing is ceding to those young impressionable minds,
00:23:31.040this is what you must say to get access to your gender-affirming health care.
00:23:34.840Even though the statistics show that that claim has no veracity whatsoever.
00:23:40.260When children, when this gender-affirming health care is withheld from children, those children grow out of it.
00:24:03.020And parents, parents across, I mean, really globally across the world are waking up to realize just how deceived they were by, you know, those people that work, that are members of WPATH, the World Professional Association for Transgender Health.
00:24:22.140Parents are realizing that they've been lied to by, you know, the Canadian Pediatric Society or whatever it's called, by these professional associations that have been ideologically captured, absolutely ideologically captured, to tell them lies and guilt them or scare them or frighten them or terrify them into making decisions for their own children that had they had accurate information, they absolutely would never have made.
00:24:52.140So, it's real interesting watching this play out in real time, the way that they're scrambling to double down on this, when we all know it is such a futile and abusive situation that is happening in Canada still, destroying Canada's children.
00:25:31.060It's absolutely destructive to families.
00:25:32.900All you have to do is listen, listen to a family that's been, um, that's been through the ringer on this.
00:25:38.520And there are families that are going on two and three and five and six years of this with their children, where their entire family life is blown up, um, when one of their kids comes home and says one of these things that they picked up in school.
00:25:51.920That the levels of destruction just cannot be overstated in this case as it pertains to just the personal loss of security for families and the closeness of families and driving a wedge between children and their, their parents.
00:26:06.220Um, all, all those people should be thrown in jail to be completely honest.
00:26:44.940So this is nationals in Toronto and the girls came home.
00:26:49.160They raised, um, while they were gone, they weren't told that a trans identified teammate.
00:26:56.840So a male teammate identifying as a girl would be staying in the dorms with them and changing with them.
00:27:05.520And then when they took to a Snapchat group, it sounds like to discuss this amongst themselves and express their concerns with, uh, about this, they were labeled by their coach who is a cheater because he selected a boy in place of a girl to play on the team so that they would have an advantage.
00:27:24.640A blatant misogynist, a blatant misogynist, a blatant misogynist, a blatant misogynist.
00:27:28.040He called these little girls hateful and disrespectful.
00:28:04.400Well, I feel like hell has a bunch of places reserved for people exactly like this, Sheila Gunn-Reed.
00:28:10.220Because what that coach did was prioritize the mental health issues of a one individual male athlete over the well-being, the rights, and the experience of all of his other female athletes.
00:28:30.940Okay, this is what happens when in Canadian law, like we do, we prioritize the gender identity and expression of one over absolutely everybody else.
00:28:43.800Canadian girls and women have become accustomed to stories like this.
00:28:48.720But what makes it especially egregious in sport, like this is actually really unique to sport, is that these male athletes are displacing female athletes.
00:28:59.360So for every male athlete you name to your team because you want to do really well, okay, coaches.
00:29:05.260You want to perform really, really well.
00:29:07.340And you know that those male athletes have the physical advantage.
00:29:11.140That's why you put them on their team.
00:29:13.100Whenever you put a male in, you are displacing a girl from your team.
00:29:17.900And with that, you are not just, you are not just, you are not just enabling her, you are not just, you are not just making her lose that singular opportunity in that one match, in that one game.
00:29:32.240But what you're doing is robbing her of opportunity years down the line.
00:29:37.200So Sheila, do tell us how, in Canada, elite athletes propel their athletic success into academic success.
00:30:06.460And for girls who are, you know, potential prospects to be a varsity athlete playing on a scholarship, it is absolutely essential that they are seen at these provincial and national level tournaments.
00:31:07.200They'd have a boy's hockey team and a girl's hockey team.
00:31:09.540And those players, although treated differently and under a different set of circumstances, often male sports at the post-secondary level are much better funded than the female ones.
00:31:22.940But often, this was the only opportunity that those female athletes would have to compete and also leverage the opportunity of being able to play on an all-female team.
00:31:34.520So we're obliterating the ability for girls to compete on the same level as boys by letting the boys opt into their sports.
00:31:47.180And outside of Alberta, Alberta, Canada, who passed laws, God bless her, Danielle Smith passed laws to protect girls and women in sport in Alberta.
00:31:58.520Apart from Alberta, nobody else has taken this.
00:32:02.960And this is something we have to unwind on a national scale.
00:32:06.320Every single province and territory in the nation of Canada has to protect their female athletes, girls and women, from this kind of gross abuse.
00:32:17.020And it's not just contact sports where girls are actually in physical danger.
00:32:21.800Like, we're not talking about ringette and rugby or the combat sports, martial arts.
00:32:28.040We're talking about stuff like volleyball.
00:32:30.840David Menzies has covered boys playing at the varsity level on girls' volleyball teams, women's volleyball teams, I should say,
00:32:41.080where the girls on the other team are being physically hurt, receiving concussions,
00:32:46.500just because they're dealing with the force of a male striking that ball at them.
00:32:52.860Well, they're being forced to not only compete against males that have the physical advantage.
00:32:59.660We have the stats going back 100 years that show that men have a physical advantage over women.
00:33:05.940But we're also not divulging to those girls that they're also being forced to change and play against and be lodged with and have their entire experience
00:33:23.720being viewed through the lens of the sex-pretending voyeur who is just thrown in with them.
00:33:32.160Like, they're not even being told that these are boys that are sleeping in the same dorms.
00:33:36.240They're not being told that because gender ID and expression law prohibits that because that would be an act of discrimination, you see.
00:33:43.580Because what if the young men who are playing on these teams had their feelings hurt?
00:35:17.920But thanks so much for coming on the show.
00:35:22.160We are recording this Tuesday afternoon, so this will go live Wednesday night.
00:35:27.400And I get another afternoon of talking to you tomorrow on the Wednesday, Western Wednesdays, Buffalo panel over on the Rebel News live stream.
00:35:41.420For those of you who don't know, we talk about exclusively Western issues on Wednesday with a panel of four.
00:35:48.060So me, Lisa, and two other special guests.
00:35:51.520And if you're watching this on Wednesday night or any time after, do choose, do tune in on Wednesday.
00:35:59.120Um, and if you're, go back and watch the recorded version of the show because I promised it would be a banger and, uh, I believe it will be.
00:36:53.860Today's viewer feedback comes by way of my interview I did last week with Tom Harris from the International Climate Science Coalition Canada.
00:37:02.660And he was discussing a recent decision in the United States to overturn the endangerment rule, which resulted in basically dozens of climate regulations because it was ruled that climate change endangered people.
00:37:26.420And so the government should act and what resulted were, like I said, dozens of expensive and unhelpful emissions regulations and standards.
00:37:40.120It's sort of the same idea that, uh, calling, uh, calling CO2 a pollutant here in Canada has resulted in carbon taxes and, um, upstream, uh, emissions regulations, caps on production for oil and gas.
00:37:57.600Now, your viewer feedback is from the YouTube comments this week.
00:38:04.400All Decat X says, funny thing, how nature works.
00:38:07.980Life evolved in this rock with carbon as a prime element to it.
00:38:12.860The absorption of carbon is relative to the temperature of the environment, thus warmer equals more absorption.
00:38:18.820I guess that's why plants are bigger in equatorial regions.
00:38:22.540This is basic elementary education stuff, or it should be for all these academic lotus eaters to teach.
00:38:30.860Silly carbon-based life forms need to learn and be more observant.
00:38:34.600That change is always a constant, so get with the reality of that.
00:38:40.300Bob Cajun writes, Carney will double down on their net zero just because actually so much of what the liberals do as far as governing is in response to the things that Trump does.
00:38:53.540You know, if Trump cuts funding to USAID because USAID is funding all kinds of crazy things, uh, you'll see Carney replace the funding to the crazy things.
00:39:06.480You know, it, Trump blocks refugees from certain places of the world and you'll see Canada take more of them in.
00:39:15.180Remember, Justin Trudeau's famous welcome to Canada tweet, uh, was in response to Trump with his ban on immigration from five failed states and the media ran with it, called it a Muslim ban, but it wasn't a Muslim ban.
00:39:34.300It was a failed states ban because you can't confirm identities.
00:39:37.700And so then Justin Trudeau said, welcome to Canada and absolutely destroyed our immigration system.
00:39:44.080We still have people walking across the border because of he invited the entire developing world to just take a shortcut.
00:39:50.180Um, and we will see Mark Carney add a carbon tariff to things coming in from the United States because the United States refuses to tax their goods as far as carbon goes.
00:40:07.260So we'll see it tacked on to inbound Canadian or inbound goods from jurisdictions without a carbon tax, as if making imported goods more expensive for Canadians somehow will change the weather.
00:40:22.960But that's, I guess, the logic or lack thereof.
00:40:28.020Bruce Taylor 3241 says, this is wonderful.