Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Selene Galas is covering Pastor Art in a Calgary court for Rebel News

00:00:00.000 What's happening in the courtroom as Pastor Art Poloski faces yet another trial, we get the

00:00:06.700 analysis from someone who joined me in the courtroom, one of our newest rebels, Celine Gallus.

00:00:11.940 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:00:30.000 If you were following along with my Twitter feed yesterday, you would know that I was

00:00:35.260 in the courtroom as Pastor Art Poloski of Calgary is in another trial for feeding the

00:00:42.100 homeless on the streets of Calgary.

00:00:44.180 And it is a bizarre persecution of the pastor given that public protests at the time when

00:00:53.920 he received the ticket were recently deemed to be not covered under the Chief Medical

00:01:01.700 Officer of Health's orders of that time.

00:01:04.260 Only private gatherings were covered under it.

00:01:07.480 So now the Crown is trying to say that Art's open-air Christmas festival slash soup kitchen

00:01:17.520 was somehow a private gathering exclusively relegated to just Christians when people's faith in

00:01:29.980 Christ was never quizzed before Art fed them steak and gave them Christmas presents and showed

00:01:38.080 them a little dignity and joy and love and kindness during the Christmas season of 2020.

00:01:44.640 Now joining me in the courtroom is someone who started off as an intern, Celine Gallus.

00:01:51.620 Celine's got a crazy story. 0.98

00:01:53.400 Literally her first day with us, we stuck her in a rental car with Mocha Bezergin and sent 0.65

00:01:57.520 her to Ottawa chasing the convoy. 0.79

00:02:00.920 And then after she was finished covering the convoy in Ottawa, instead of going home, she went

00:02:06.360 straight to the border blockade at Cootes and started working there.

00:02:10.240 You might say we tried to break her, but we really didn't.

00:02:12.480 There's just so much news to cover and we have great expectations for the young people

00:02:18.640 who start working for us.

00:02:20.140 And now Celine is learning how to court report. 1.00

00:02:23.000 And just last week, she chased Prime Minister Justin Trudeau unsuccessfully, however, on the

00:02:30.480 streets of Calgary.

00:02:31.220 So I thought, since I'm in court, since I'm in Calgary, and since Celine's got an interesting

00:02:37.960 career trajectory, that we would sit down and talk in the workspace in Calgary.

00:02:44.920 So this is the conversation we had yesterday when we were on lunch from court, which we did

00:02:50.640 not eat lunch because we had to film this and then get back to court.

00:02:53.960 So take a listen to our interview.

00:03:03.760 I'm here in the workspace in Calgary with someone who started off as an intern, Celine Gallus.

00:03:10.240 But Celine, I want to have you on the show because I'm in Calgary this week covering the

00:03:15.620 trials and tribulations of pastor art.

00:03:18.000 So we want to talk about that.

00:03:19.300 But I also want to talk to you about the pathway to becoming a rebel because you started off

00:03:25.000 as an intern with us and we threw you like right, right into the fire.

00:03:34.580 We, your first day with us, you jumped in a rental car with Mocha Bezergen and went all

00:03:39.080 the way to the convoy to Ottawa.

00:03:41.120 I guess my question is, why didn't we break you?

00:03:45.360 We tried.

00:03:46.420 They tried.

00:03:47.360 They definitely did.

00:03:48.180 Um, I'm a big believer of trial by fire in general.

00:03:52.240 I'm an individual that really likes to push myself and I'm always aiming to strive towards

00:03:57.160 betterment and anywhere that there is an obstacle.

00:04:00.000 I mean, working for Rebel in general is an obstacle.

00:04:03.260 It's a, it's a, it's, um, it's a lifestyle is what I like to tell people when they ask me

00:04:08.400 like what they can do to work for Rebel News or, you know, what does it take?

00:04:12.220 And I tell them, I'm like, well, it's not a job.

00:04:14.200 Like you need to, this is a lifestyle.

00:04:15.840 You eat, breathe, sleep, and you live this because this is a passion.

00:04:19.960 This is a passion for me and, um, unbroken.

00:04:23.920 Yeah.

00:04:24.580 I'll remain that way.

00:04:25.660 A hundred percent.

00:04:26.460 And one of the things that I'm really proud of that we do at Rebel News is you might start

00:04:31.100 as an intern doing one thing.

00:04:32.700 For example, just hanging a camera out the window as Mocha drives across the country,

00:04:38.000 but we get you doing other things.

00:04:40.100 We get you, you know, working in other parts of the company to see what fits.

00:04:44.780 Did that work for you?

00:04:46.820 Absolutely.

00:04:47.360 It did.

00:04:47.680 Yeah.

00:04:47.960 Um, I was definitely able to discover a lot of the different passions that I have for,

00:04:52.140 uh, different multimedia as well.

00:04:53.980 So it did start with just me hanging myself out of the window and capturing the convoy.

00:04:58.780 And that was incredible for sure.

00:05:00.440 And then being on the streets of Ottawa too, that was really just super intense at all times.

00:05:05.260 But then having the opportunity to report or even having a hand in creating the media

00:05:09.760 that we send out on a day-to-day basis for daily content or, um, you know, social media

00:05:15.040 just in general, it's been great to be able to explore, uh, those different, uh, avenues

00:05:19.100 for myself.

00:05:20.040 Okay.

00:05:20.200 So let's talk about the trip to Ottawa because your trip to Ottawa didn't actually end with

00:05:24.740 you at even coming home.

00:05:26.260 Uh, you went from Ottawa straight to Coots to cover the border blockade there.

00:05:30.620 But what was it like?

00:05:32.460 Because I think Rebel got the story right and everybody else with the exception, I think

00:05:39.420 of True North and a couple of other places, they got it wrong.

00:05:42.740 What was your experience inside the convoy?

00:05:45.300 So Ottawa was really different than Coots.

00:05:50.220 Very, very different actually.

00:05:51.960 Um, just the atmosphere in general, like when, when you approach Milk River, it's, it's a

00:05:57.700 very small town.

00:05:58.420 It's very desolate, you know, as opposed to being in the middle of Ottawa where, you know,

00:06:01.640 it's already a hustle and bustle type of city, but just approaching Milk River, there

00:06:05.620 was this tangible feeling in the air, just like this tension all around and driving up this

00:06:12.140 long road in the, in the prairies, you could just see the convoy just stopped just, and

00:06:17.920 then this entire streamline of, of police cars with their, their sirens and their lights

00:06:23.260 on.

00:06:23.720 And when we pulled into, um, it was that bar, I don't recall the names.

00:06:28.960 Smugglers, I think.

00:06:29.700 Yes.

00:06:29.960 Yeah, exactly.

00:06:30.660 That, um, the people, it was different.

00:06:33.220 Like they, it felt like a war zone, to be honest with you.

00:06:36.600 Um, there, there wasn't, despite, you know, some of the times where like people were laughing

00:06:40.380 and trying to be very lighthearted about the situation.

00:06:42.780 Like they were stationed right on the border of the, of the U S and, uh, that's not, that's

00:06:47.920 not a small feat and it's not for the faint of heart.

00:06:50.040 And, um, they were there for a very, very long time.

00:06:53.380 And in Ottawa, you know, there's a lot of smiles and stuff like that and, and people celebrating

00:06:57.460 and dancing.

00:06:58.040 And that was not how it was in Coutts at all.

00:07:00.540 It was, it was very, it was very cutthroat.

00:07:03.540 I think that's a, that's a good way to describe it.

00:07:05.940 Um, but I was really proud of the way that people contain themselves and, and, and kept

00:07:10.280 a state of, of peace.

00:07:12.060 And they were able to just like remain in that the whole time.

00:07:15.880 But it was definitely very different from Ottawa and the fact that, um, yeah, you didn't

00:07:21.340 see a lot of smiles.

00:07:22.120 It was, it was like desolate, barren, freezing cold, absolutely freezing.

00:07:27.100 And, uh, uh, K2 and, uh, Sid, the work that they did down there, that was, that was incredible.

00:07:32.900 They really, uh, put themselves on the, on the front lines and they did everything necessary

00:07:37.140 to capture the story as altruistic, as altruistically as possible.

00:07:41.600 Yeah.

00:07:42.300 You know, they really did capture, I think the, the feeling of Coutts in their documentary

00:07:49.300 that you can see at truckerdocumentary.ca.

00:07:52.340 And we have new showings that we're working on.

00:07:55.060 And we've done two in Calgary and we have new ones coming to other parts of the province

00:07:59.500 and maybe even other parts of the country.

00:08:00.920 So keep checking back there.

00:08:02.120 If you're a subscriber to Rebel News Plus, well, good news, because you can see the movie

00:08:06.620 there.

00:08:07.200 Um, it's included in your Rebel News Plus subscription and boy, what a great time to become a Rebel

00:08:12.140 News Plus subscriber.

00:08:13.240 If you're watching the, um, paywall version of the show, well, you already know.

00:08:17.860 Um, and if you're watching the free version of the show, now's your chance because there's

00:08:21.380 a lot of content behind the paywall that you won't see anywhere else.

00:08:24.700 But yeah, it was very tense, I think down there.

00:08:27.880 And whereas in Ottawa, there were three weeks of fun and street parties before the tension

00:08:36.060 came, before the police moved in.

00:08:38.520 But at Coutts, it was always tension.

00:08:41.080 There was always conflict with the police.

00:08:42.920 And they really didn't know if the police were going to come from the South or from

00:08:48.160 the North.

00:08:48.900 They were cut off from their friends and family.

00:08:51.000 Everybody else was blockaded in Milk River.

00:08:53.020 So they were in a constant hyper state of tension there.

00:08:58.020 And that's really captured in the documentary.

00:09:00.740 But yeah, you went all the way to Ottawa, did that, and then drove all the way back across

00:09:05.460 the country in a rental car and went straight to Coutts.

00:09:08.580 You didn't even go straight home.

00:09:09.900 No, I went straight to Coutts with Mocha.

00:09:11.600 Yeah, we just we couldn't not like it's I guess it's also just the thrill of like riding

00:09:17.640 that train of adrenaline, so to speak, like after coming back from Ottawa, like we honestly

00:09:23.860 we didn't we didn't want to leave.

00:09:26.140 You know, there's always a part of like journalism where like you get to the point where you're

00:09:30.420 like, there's more to cover.

00:09:31.400 There's always more to see.

00:09:32.380 We want to be able to show that to the viewers.

00:09:34.820 But then, you know, right in our backyard, we had Coutts.

00:09:36.920 So driving back, it was a little bit slow paced.

00:09:39.620 And we're like, you know, we need to go and offer aid to our fellow rebels and go meet

00:09:43.500 them down there.

00:09:44.100 So, yeah, we straight from from Ottawa all the way to Coutts, no stopping.

00:09:48.860 I hadn't seen my my cat for like 15 days.

00:09:52.380 I think it was just it was insane.

00:09:55.060 But yeah, it was good.

00:09:56.060 Now, I think you are a testament to just how actually tolerant we are at Rebel News with

00:10:02.560 people who have different lifestyles and different viewpoints.

00:10:04.820 For example, you came to us as a vegan.

00:10:06.760 Now we got you on the chicken wings.

00:10:08.380 I know that for a fact, because you ate some of mine one day.

00:10:12.140 And you even were able to ask politicians questions about gun rights.

00:10:20.220 So you asked the question about gun rights at the Conservative Party leadership debate in

00:10:26.140 Edmonton.

00:10:26.680 And then Adam took you to the gun range.

00:10:28.440 That was awesome.

00:10:29.440 Yeah.

00:10:29.620 Yeah, that was that was a really great experience.

00:10:33.120 That was very fun.

00:10:33.880 Yeah.

00:10:34.200 Keep your keep your hands off our guns dot com.

00:10:36.880 If you haven't checked it out, definitely do now.

00:10:39.880 I just think it's ridiculous to be able to, you know, really, really crunch down on on

00:10:45.600 on people's rights and freedoms in a time where, you know, we're we're trying to facilitate

00:10:50.160 a reality where we feel like we have some of those back in our own hands.

00:10:54.140 I don't agree with personally.

00:10:55.720 And I was a vegan for six years, six years.

00:11:01.380 But, you know, it is contradicting.

00:11:03.100 You think, oh, veganism, you know, definitely probably against guns because of the ethics

00:11:06.580 and whatnot.

00:11:07.040 But it never settled right with me.

00:11:09.940 I've always been pro gun, even pro hunting to to a certain extent.

00:11:13.000 It's really for me, it was it's how the system is abused.

00:11:16.620 Even in that way, I don't like seeing different systems that we have kind of working in a state

00:11:22.980 of dysfunction, I don't see that there's a purpose to certain things, you know, health

00:11:26.380 above wealth or health.

00:11:27.980 Health is wealth and in all terms of things.

00:11:30.200 But definitely, yeah, shooting guns without him was great.

00:11:34.660 That was the highlight of that week for sure.

00:11:37.380 Conservatives, take your liberal friends to the gun range.

00:11:39.580 If you want to convert them to being a friend of the firearms movement, just take them to

00:11:44.720 the gun range.

00:11:45.460 Oh, yeah, 100 percent.

00:11:46.620 Now, what did it feel like to be able to ask a politician a tough question?

00:11:51.360 Because when you ask politicians questions, it can feel intimidating.

00:11:55.560 But you have to realize they're actually scared of you and the question you're asking.

00:12:00.140 Yeah, actually, I watched my my little video segment back a few times.

00:12:04.560 And, you know, he was all smiles at me, Mr.

00:12:07.680 Aitchison, until I said from Rebel News.

00:12:10.560 And there's just this slight moment where I kept going back and laughing because his face

00:12:14.480 just kind of dropped like the micro expression of what is she about to ask me?

00:12:18.500 Like, I don't know if I can answer this.

00:12:20.520 I just I wasn't afraid in general, to be honest.

00:12:22.740 There's something that I realized about politicians and journalists is that we have this way of

00:12:27.660 just it's like magnets in a room because we are always going to be reporting on what they're

00:12:32.200 doing and they're always going to be worrying about what we're reporting in regards to their

00:12:35.720 actions.

00:12:36.140 So it's like we're magnets in the room.

00:12:38.060 And every time that, you know, they would shift or say something or do something, I

00:12:41.400 really I could notice and I could feel that above anyone else in the crowd, like there

00:12:45.400 was the magnetism and there was almost like eye contact or looking or, you know, reactions.

00:12:50.080 And when I walked up to the podium and I was the first person to ask that question, I was

00:12:54.760 really happy to do so.

00:12:55.840 And I was very confident.

00:12:56.840 And I'm glad that I that I was able to ask that question about gun rights, because, I

00:13:02.000 mean, at the time, we didn't know what Trudeau had in his back pocket or card up his sleeve,

00:13:06.280 so to speak.

00:13:06.880 So it's very interesting to see it play out that way.

00:13:09.780 You know, and it's good because you are asking a question that, you know, thousands, tens of

00:13:14.980 thousands.

00:13:15.480 Actually, I think it's over two million licensed Canadian firearms owners.

00:13:20.240 That's a question that they care about.

00:13:22.520 And that's our duty as journalists is to ask questions that the people want answers 0.91

00:13:27.700 to, not like the CBC at that debate where they just kept asking the same dumb question

00:13:31.960 about climate change over and over to each and every politician.

00:13:35.000 We got the WEF for that.

00:13:36.440 Yeah, definitely check out the documentary on YouTube as well.

00:13:39.580 I got Keane Simone on that as well as Louis Brackpool from the UK.

00:13:44.400 So, yeah.

00:13:45.400 Now, you are in court with me today.

00:13:48.980 We're filming this on Tuesday.

00:13:51.000 We're in court covering the trial of Pastor Art Poloski.

00:13:55.160 And this is a three-day trial, and there's no way in heck that they're going to be done

00:13:59.140 in three days on the matter of a single, this one, a single public health ticket for illegal

00:14:06.680 public gathering.

00:14:07.840 And the illegal public gathering in question was a Christmas meal that he served to the

00:14:15.160 homeless in downtown Calgary.

00:14:16.880 He's on trial right now for serving them steak, which breaks my heart because I can't even

00:14:23.320 imagine when was the last time those folks had a steak, and vegetables and potatoes and

00:14:30.180 gingerbread.

00:14:30.900 There was mention of gingerbread and hot chocolate.

00:14:33.440 I can't even believe the things I'm hearing in court.

00:14:36.000 I can't even believe that these things are crimes.

00:14:38.240 And giving them Christmas presents, organizing Christmas presents for them.

00:14:43.240 And we heard testimony all day this morning, all morning.

00:14:48.340 It's been a real soul-sucking experience.

00:14:50.200 This is sometimes pretty boring.

00:14:51.640 Um, but, uh, just the idea that a pastor in Calgary could be on trial facing fines for

00:15:02.620 feeding the homeless.

00:15:03.520 And Art made a great point to us today that he was feeding the homeless when the homeless

00:15:08.700 had been denied services by the city of Calgary because they initially limited the amount of

00:15:14.380 people who could be in the homeless shelter.

00:15:16.020 Can you even believe what we're hearing today?

00:15:17.460 No, I can't, um, official statement.

00:15:21.560 No, I can't.

00:15:22.500 I've, I've never, I've actually never been in court before.

00:15:24.660 This is my first time.

00:15:25.680 And, uh, it's really different from the movies.

00:15:28.880 If you've never been in court before, like it's not, um, there aren't all these very hard

00:15:33.980 questions being asked where you're constantly on your, the edge of your seat and you're just,

00:15:38.560 you're waiting, you know, if it's going to be testified against or if, you know, there's

00:15:42.600 going to be an objection.

00:15:43.400 And I literally sat there for the most part with you today, you know, despite that we

00:15:47.960 had some good tweets and we were definitely, um, keeping the viewers updated, but most

00:15:51.700 of them towards the end were about if the Christmas trees there were real, if, uh, the

00:15:56.460 people wearing what we could assume to be Santa hats were in fact, Santa hats.

00:16:00.800 They said they were not specifically traditional Santa hats, but they were Christmas specific.

00:16:05.940 Christmas specific.

00:16:06.420 Great.

00:16:07.900 Riveting.

00:16:08.520 Thank you.

00:16:09.040 Thank you so much for that.

00:16:10.260 Yeah.

00:16:10.400 I needed that, you know, um, I just feel bad.

00:16:13.800 I feel like it's, uh, you know, we're focusing on the peas and the carrots when we need to

00:16:20.220 be, no pun intended, focused on the steak.

00:16:22.940 Like the, you know, the, the hand, uh, the, the very important, uh, thing at matter here

00:16:27.480 is definitely Arthur Palowski.

00:16:28.900 And the fact that just like you said earlier, like they were denied resources.

00:16:33.600 Um, and, um, um, I sent out a tweet and, um, the crown was actually insinuating by asking

00:16:39.100 the, the peace officer there that's testifying against, uh, Pastor Arthur, um, you know,

00:16:44.100 if there are other resources that exist in Calgary for, uh, the homeless population.

00:16:47.720 And, you know, she said, yes, because of course there are, there always have been in the city.

00:16:52.100 Um, but to what extent?

00:16:53.780 So does that mean that when someone puts forth the effort, um, to really, you know, show them

00:16:58.640 courtesy a little bit more and give them a warm meal and, um, show them love and kindness

00:17:03.580 and dignity.

00:17:04.340 That was one of the, sorry to interrupt you, but that was one of the things that I guess

00:17:07.820 the crown found appalling was that Art and his congregation were hugging the homeless and

00:17:14.800 shaking their hands and showing them kindness and human dignity and de-stigmatizing them.

00:17:20.600 And, you know, we hear that word all the time from the left that there shouldn't be stigma.

00:17:24.240 Well, when Art does that in practice, he ends up in court.

00:17:27.680 He ends up being arrested for it.

00:17:29.540 Yeah.

00:17:29.740 And tried for doing that.

00:17:31.020 And I, I don't agree with it personally.

00:17:32.860 It's not something that sits well with me.

00:17:34.800 I'm not sure who, you know, could actually be very honest and like, you know, deconstruct

00:17:39.700 the entire event, uh, that we're going over today in courts, which is just a gathering

00:17:44.480 of people that are literally there to facilitate that warm, loving environment for people that

00:17:48.800 probably haven't been shown a lot of that, uh, in their lives, but not in recent times

00:17:52.880 as well, because of the pandemic, right?

00:17:54.580 There's a lot of fear mongering around being close to the people around you, let alone your

00:17:59.180 family.

00:17:59.580 Like, how do you think that they feel being that they're already on the streets and

00:18:02.820 homeless?

00:18:03.540 So seeing that video, it warmed my heart.

00:18:06.440 Um, but obviously with the crown, they were more focused on the gingerbread and the color

00:18:11.100 of the speakers being used.

00:18:12.260 And that was another thing that, um, they're using as evidence against art, um, because

00:18:18.780 at the time people were only allowed to gather together if they were from the same household.

00:18:23.020 And so the peace officer said, you know, these people, they're obviously not from the same

00:18:27.960 household.

00:18:28.660 Yeah.

00:18:29.620 They don't have houses.

00:18:30.660 It's sort of in the implied when you call someone homeless that they don't have a house

00:18:36.040 to go to.

00:18:36.880 And this was the only place where they could get a hot meal that day and be shown love

00:18:43.560 and not treated like, you know, the unmentionables on the street that day.

00:18:47.700 No, absolutely.

00:18:48.840 And that was another tweet that we focused on being very keen about sending out is just

00:18:53.680 that it's, it like, how do you even have that conversation with somebody?

00:18:58.560 Like it's so, it can be so simply broken down between us and in this conversation.

00:19:02.560 And I'm sure everyone on the other side of this camera is pretty much nodding their heads

00:19:06.540 at this point, but it's really hard to, uh, get around like the simplicity of, of actions

00:19:12.160 that are just literally from, from kindness and love.

00:19:15.240 Like it doesn't have to be complicated.

00:19:16.540 I think that's where ego comes into play and, and most of the time politics as well, because

00:19:21.620 something like this, that is so simple and just literally from the bottom of, uh, of their

00:19:25.800 heart, from the organizations that they're a part of, it's, um, I don't understand it.

00:19:31.120 This is, yeah, court's a little bit challenging, but, uh, it's good.

00:19:34.620 It is challenging, especially when you're looking at the evidence.

00:19:37.000 One of the videos that we were shown today shows Art talking about his Christmas event

00:19:42.360 that he wants to hold for the homeless.

00:19:44.840 And behind him are hundreds of people skating, literally hundreds of people skating on Olympic

00:19:51.500 Plaza.

00:19:53.400 That's fine.

00:19:54.520 But Art gathering together to feed the homeless, that wasn't fine.

00:20:00.540 That was an illegal public gathering under the rule.

00:20:03.200 And as you're sitting there, you're realizing, okay, this is three days long.

00:20:07.380 This is on a charge that goes back to December, 2020.

00:20:12.340 Yeah.

00:20:13.420 It's three days.

00:20:14.340 It's, there's no way they're going to finish because the crown is sucking our life out by

00:20:18.860 just entering all these nonsense things into evidence and taking forever.

00:20:23.240 Um, but we know that Alberta has an extreme shortage of crown prosecutors to the point

00:20:31.500 where real crimes are being thrown out because they're going over the constitutional limit of

00:20:37.080 when you should have a speedy trial.

00:20:39.440 And so rapists are walking free people who abuse their wives and their children or their

00:20:46.340 spouses are walking free while the crown wastes resources, three day trial on this ticket, 0.96

00:20:54.500 instead of just tossing it out and saying it's not in the public interest.

00:20:57.980 Yeah.

00:20:58.580 Now, that's a really good point.

00:21:00.080 Um, during the entire pandemic in the winter, um, people were skating all the time.

00:21:04.980 I'm born and raised Calgary.

00:21:06.760 I was skating a couple of times out there.

00:21:08.840 Right across the street from where Art got his ticket.

00:21:11.760 Yeah.

00:21:12.280 So as always, it seems to be one law for me, one law for thee, or one law for, yeah.

00:21:17.860 Yeah.

00:21:18.120 Right.

00:21:18.440 Yeah. 0.59

00:21:18.700 So it's, it's always, it's, it's hypocritical that it's steeped in hypocrisy, these things.

00:21:23.920 Like it's literally right behind them in the video too.

00:21:26.220 Like this entire thing.

00:21:27.860 Yeah.

00:21:28.200 And it's like multiples of people and they're just going around.

00:21:30.840 They're having a good time.

00:21:31.920 Like I'm sure if you zoomed into the clip, you know, there is a lot of people that weren't

00:21:35.660 masked at that time.

00:21:36.480 Some people were.

00:21:37.200 Um, but that's one of the issues that she brought up and that was actually, um, objectified 1.00

00:21:41.820 is that, um, she asked, uh, the, the crown asked the, the peace officer if, uh, if she

00:21:47.260 can recall, uh, the people in the crowd, you know, wearing a mask and, you know, there's

00:21:51.020 a lot of, um, there's a lot of wiggle room for these things, especially, you know, fast

00:21:54.780 forward to 2022 with masks in particular, like just before it was lifted, you know, you

00:21:59.160 could go into a restaurant wearing a mask, but you could, you know, also take it down

00:22:03.120 to eat.

00:22:04.120 So it's kind of the same premise.

00:22:04.740 So, you know, if you're going to go to a, if you're going to go to a place where, you

00:22:08.460 know, you're expecting to get a meal, a warm meal and, you know, you're outside, it's already

00:22:12.240 hard to breathe.

00:22:13.220 It's like in the minus, you know, a thousand because it's Canada.

00:22:16.700 Um, how are you supposed to do those things?

00:22:18.320 How do you facilitate evening social distancing to grab your food?

00:22:21.100 If we're going by like the meter stick of like six feet, it doesn't even make any

00:22:25.480 sense.

00:22:25.800 And when these points get brought up, you know, now, you know, back then it might've

00:22:30.080 made more sense because of where we were at.

00:22:32.080 And, uh, but even then a different, it didn't because at that time you didn't have to wear

00:22:37.180 a mask outside.

00:22:38.360 I mean, it doesn't make any sense, but why would the crown even bring it in?

00:22:41.700 And when challenged by, by Sarah Miller, arts, long time layer on that issue, she said,

00:22:46.780 well, it colors the crowd as in their anti lockdown.

00:22:50.780 They aren't, they aren't science believers, um, they're adjacent to the lockdown protests.

00:22:56.940 So yeah, no, they, they're, they're being adjacent to the lockdown protests.

00:23:01.240 It's a good bet that they are colored with the same brush, but it was trying, you know,

00:23:06.000 it was very clear trying to sort of bias the court against art because he's a, an objector.

00:23:11.460 They were sort of putting his politics on trial as opposed to his actions that day.

00:23:15.440 No, that's a really good point.

00:23:16.900 Yeah.

00:23:17.060 It's, uh, it doesn't make a lot of sense in regards to, to the science aspect, right?

00:23:22.760 Especially if you are just outside, then yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't make a lot of

00:23:27.100 sense to me.

00:23:27.580 It never did.

00:23:28.680 No, that's why I didn't wear the mask.

00:23:30.020 That's why you're here.

00:23:30.840 That's why I'm here and I didn't wear the masks.

00:23:32.860 Exactly.

00:23:33.820 Now, um, we have to get back to court.

00:23:36.660 Um, we're filming this on a break from court.

00:23:38.660 I want to ask you, what is the outside of the two convoys?

00:23:42.720 I can't even believe that I'm saying outside of the two convoys that you covered, the two

00:23:47.100 major international stories that you've covered for us.

00:23:49.460 Um, what's the, um, most interesting story or the most fun story that you've done outside

00:23:56.580 of the convoys?

00:23:57.280 I know that those are pretty fun.

00:23:59.000 Those are, I don't know.

00:24:00.220 Yeah.

00:24:00.660 If you asked me that, I'd say they couldn't be beat by the convoy.

00:24:03.260 But, uh, I think just recently when, uh, Justin Trudeau snuck into Calgary and, uh, we were

00:24:08.200 down at the Fairmont here in, uh, in Calgary and, uh, just the crowds that showed up, like

00:24:13.540 it was literally a tweet that was dropped.

00:24:16.060 We got the tip, me and Sid raced right from our, our second premiering of, uh, or showing

00:24:21.280 of the, the new, uh, Coots Trucker documentary.

00:24:24.220 And, um, the crowd of people that was waiting there when Justin Trudeau's plane was not set

00:24:29.780 to even touch down until 10 PM, we arrived there just after eight and there was already

00:24:34.400 like 20, 30 people, you know, using parabolics, running around with flags and it was a good 0.95

00:24:39.060 time.

00:24:39.500 The crowd was peaceful, but it was just the dedication alone.

00:24:43.360 Um, when you have a prime minister, such as the one that we do in Canada, um, yeah, if

00:24:50.520 you've watched, you've watched the videos, yeah, you definitely, you know, you know what's

00:24:54.740 going on.

00:24:55.360 It makes sense why there would be a crowd, but like just the determination and.

00:24:59.780 Oh, it's what I love about Alberta that Trudeau's not going to come on our turf and just get 1.00

00:25:07.320 like the welcome wagon.

00:25:08.680 We roll out the protests and the, yeah.

00:25:12.280 And the FU Trudeau flags, that's all out there in full force.

00:25:16.000 He's not just going to roll in under cover of darkness and just roll out of town.

00:25:20.340 Not Alberta.

00:25:21.400 No.

00:25:21.800 There was so many different like back alleys and different passageways.

00:25:25.000 Like we, we tried to like think like, like logistically, we're like, you know, he's probably

00:25:30.160 no matter what, not going to roll through the front door.

00:25:32.660 But like, where would he most likely, you know, come in or, you know, if there's like

00:25:36.820 a, an access point from the back, there is like 20, 30 ways to get into this building.

00:25:41.920 Not to mention the plus 15s, not to mention the underground, um, tunnels that like run through

00:25:47.360 there.

00:25:47.740 So it's, he snuck in, we got confirmation later, um, from the staff that he was already

00:25:54.920 in the building and sleeping, despite us, you know, asking them before he got there,

00:26:00.400 apparently they, they just said that they had no idea what was going on, which was laughable.

00:26:05.040 Yeah.

00:26:05.240 I'm like, there's just 40 people in front of your establishment for absolutely no reason

00:26:09.860 with F Trudeau flags.

00:26:11.240 And just, you know, and there's RCMP security all over the place.

00:26:15.000 Yeah.

00:26:15.160 We, we don't know what's happening.

00:26:16.440 It's even, it's a mystery.

00:26:18.320 Yeah.

00:26:18.820 It's a mystery for sure.

00:26:20.320 Yeah.

00:26:20.460 This is, and to see the mainstream media also, again, parked about two blocks, uh, down from

00:26:27.100 where the, the Fairmont was and just, you know, capturing something, some angle.

00:26:33.340 I'm not sure.

00:26:33.960 I don't watch fake news, but, um, yeah, they, they started to be belligerent when the crowd

00:26:39.260 started to out them, like I got a little clip of it.

00:26:41.880 I was, I was kind of stowed away in a back alley, hoping that that's where he would come

00:26:46.700 in from.

00:26:47.280 Anyways.

00:26:47.900 Um, I got to, to capture it at once the crowd started to realize like, Hey, that ginormous

00:26:53.680 camera that that guy is carrying over there and setting up and recording us from like such

00:26:58.680 a far standpoint.

00:27:00.020 Like these are the people that, you know, they know us personally.

00:27:02.960 Like when we do journalism, like we actually go up to people.

00:27:06.100 We talk to people, we're in the crowd, we enmesh with them.

00:27:09.820 We are not two blocks up the road, sitting in their car, scared to death, being sketchy.

00:27:14.040 Yeah.

00:27:14.180 We're not being sketchy or suspect.

00:27:15.620 Um, but as soon as they're outed, you know, the dude started shouting stuff back and I

00:27:19.380 was like, Hey, like just cut it, take your camera and, you know, just get on out of here.

00:27:25.820 Like, you know, mosey on out.

00:27:27.500 But, uh, yeah, we didn't catch Trudeau.

00:27:29.500 Unfortunately, that was, I'll catch him eventually.

00:27:32.440 Yeah.

00:27:32.560 It's actually my goal.

00:27:33.540 It's my number one goal.

00:27:34.460 So, yeah.

00:27:36.000 Now you're not an intern anymore.

00:27:38.360 So now you have to sort of decide what you want to do and the things you want to focus

00:27:44.140 on.

00:27:44.400 So what's sort of on your horizon that way besides court reporting so that I don't have

00:27:49.920 to.

00:27:51.420 Sheila, I'm so glad that you asked me that.

00:27:54.680 Um, yeah, I'll definitely be doing probably, you know, still a little bit of the, the backend

00:27:59.840 stuff with social media and whatnot and the court stuff when Sheila cannot be here or Adam

00:28:04.080 or I'll probably just do it anyways.

00:28:05.940 That's yeah.

00:28:07.000 It's not too bad.

00:28:08.040 The tweeting.

00:28:08.680 It's kind of fun.

00:28:09.460 And it's interesting to see how the sausage gets made a little bit.

00:28:13.600 Yeah.

00:28:14.140 The, the justice system does, does grind and squeak. 1.00

00:28:17.940 And it's, and it's interesting to be privy to that.

00:28:21.320 Um, but journalism as a whole to be a reporter.

00:28:23.960 Um, I want the borders to open up.

00:28:26.620 I want, uh, the restrictions to be lifted.

00:28:29.240 Um, and once they do, I would love to be a traveling international reporter so I can report

00:28:34.280 anywhere, uh, around the world and, and be dedicated to providing that other side of

00:28:38.560 the story to the viewers.

00:28:39.380 But who will watch the cat?

00:28:42.980 You know, that's a good point.

00:28:45.020 That's a good point.

00:28:47.080 No, she's good.

00:28:47.980 My mom is like a, she's like a cat grandma. 0.94

00:28:50.340 She's like a, there's like lots of strays in her neighborhood and they all just seem

00:28:53.380 to gravitate to her.

00:28:54.600 I mean, yeah, she like feeds them. 1.00

00:28:56.760 So, you know, just grandma, we got a cat grandma.

00:28:59.500 We're good.

00:28:59.880 Yeah.

00:29:00.560 Yeah, for sure.

00:29:01.340 Well, Selene, we, uh, actually have to jet.

00:29:03.380 We have to get back to court.

00:29:04.280 Um, so thanks for sitting down.

00:29:06.180 Thanks for letting our viewers get to know you a little bit better.

00:29:08.720 And I cannot wait to see what you do next.

00:29:10.600 Absolutely.

00:29:11.220 Thanks, Sheila.

00:29:19.000 Now this is the portion of the show where we read your viewer feedback.

00:29:23.060 Unlike the mainstream media, we actually leave our comment section open.

00:29:26.900 We even invite comments because we want to know what you think about the work that we're

00:29:31.800 doing here at Rebel News.

00:29:33.200 So one of the best ways to have me read your comments on air, and I do take them from different

00:29:39.160 sources, but I do appreciate when they go directly to my email.

00:29:43.520 So my email is Sheila at rebelnews.com.

00:29:46.920 And if you put gun show letters in the subject line, it's really easy for me to find because

00:29:51.640 I, some days get hundreds, hundreds of emails.

00:29:55.420 And that's one of the best ways for me to sort through them.

00:29:57.680 So anyway, now that that's out of the way, we can get to Kathy's letter.

00:30:03.200 And she writes, I just watched K2's Trucker Convoy documentary.

00:30:08.740 I followed all rebel reporters throughout the ordeal, but wow, I live in Calgary and on

00:30:14.280 the one hand, wish I could have been at the Canyon Meadows Theater to watch it with kindred

00:30:18.680 spirits.

00:30:19.100 But on the other hand, it made me weep with pride.

00:30:21.220 And that would not be a good look to wear in public.

00:30:23.760 Thank you to Kian and company for creating this wonderful piece that restores hope in

00:30:27.860 my heart.

00:30:28.440 And that makes me marvel even still at all the souls involved and the conditions with

00:30:32.620 which they dealt in order to help restore some amount of normalcy to our lives.

00:30:37.780 While there is still a ways to go to fully have freedom restored, there is hope.

00:30:42.480 Kathy.

00:30:42.780 Well, Kathy, I'm assuming that since you didn't go to the theatrical release at Canyon

00:30:48.000 Meadows Cinema, that you are watching the Trucker documentary as part of your subscription

00:30:53.100 to Rebel News Plus.

00:30:54.720 For those of you who aren't subscribed to Rebel News Plus, there is exclusive content available

00:30:59.720 only to subscribers behind that paywall.

00:31:03.100 And to become a subscriber, just go to rebelnewsplus.com.

00:31:06.620 The movie's called Trucker Rebellion, The Story of the Coots Blockade.

00:31:10.460 We did two showings in Calgary at Canyon Meadows Cinema.

00:31:15.240 And due to popular demand, we are releasing it to special showings in the Edmonton area.

00:31:22.320 And as I'm filming this, I'm proud to say we just booked a very interesting, fun event.

00:31:28.040 It's Dinner and a Movie.

00:31:30.540 $64.99.

00:31:32.380 It is at a restaurant that has hosted events for us before, so we know they're cancel culture 0.99

00:31:37.640 resilient.

00:31:38.180 And so you get a great, all-you-can-eat buffet meal with your non-alcoholic drinks included.

00:31:44.740 And then we watch the movie together, and then we're going to have a Q&A session afterwards

00:31:49.360 to get your tickets.

00:31:50.880 And you must get your tickets fast, because there are only 100 of them.

00:31:55.700 Just go to truckerdocumentary.com, and you'll get your tickets there.

00:32:01.180 And like I said, move fast.

00:32:02.520 There's only 100.

00:32:03.100 This is going to be a very interesting, fun event with great food, great people, and then

00:32:07.960 a great discussion afterwards.

00:32:09.840 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:32:11.380 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:32:12.800 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.

00:32:17.460 And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:32:20.720 We'll be right back here in the same time.

00:32:50.720 We'll be right back here in the same time.

00:32:57.020 We'll be right back.

00:32:59.340 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - June 09, 2022

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Selene Galas is covering Pastor Art in a Calgary court for Rebel News

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