SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Taxpayers take CBC to court over secretive spending
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Sheila Gunn-Reed thinks you might be a bad Canadian if you believe in defunding the CBC. She's joined by Chris Sims of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation to talk about it, and to debate the Liberal leadership debate.
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Canada's Heritage Minister thinks you might be a bad Canadian if you believe in defunding the CBC.
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I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.
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You say the purifoli of his opinions don't represent the majority of Canadians,
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but if he wins a majority government, I think that statement might be tested.
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So how is this plan worth more than the paper that it's written on?
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And if you can't enshrine it, there's no parliament and there's no way to actually get this through.
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Well, this is why it's so important for me to complete my mandate letter
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by proposing this very clear plan for the future of the CBC
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because it's now or never the time for any person who wants to be the next prime minister
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to commit to making sure that we have a viable public broadcaster for the next century.
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And there's going to be a leaders' debate next week for who's going to be the next leader of the Liberal Party,
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who's going to be the next prime minister of Canada.
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And I think it's important that we stop talking about defunding or funding CBC
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and we talk about a vision and a plan for the future of the CBC,
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what it could mean for Canadians, especially at a time where we know that our means of communications
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are controlled in most parts by tech billionaire oligarchs in the United States.
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More than ever, it's important for Canadians to be able to rely on their own sources of information
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Radio Canada CBC has been there for the past hundred years
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It is more relevant than ever in the current context
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to have and to be able to rely on a public service media.
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And to not understand that reality shows the lack of understanding of the global context that we're in
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and it shows the lack of love for our own country
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and for the fact that we need to be able to tell our own stories in our own way.
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And Radio Canada CBC will never be controlled by Musk, Zuckerberg
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or any other private billionaire tech oligarch.
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That right there is Canada's Heritage Minister, Pascale Saint-Dange.
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And yes, I do believe in saying her name in the most obnoxious way
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until one of us is no longer on the face of the earth.
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Because what she said is pretty darn obnoxious.
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She is questioning your commitment to your own country.
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Well, if you believe that there are better ways to spend billions of Canadian tax dollars
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than on a failing state broadcaster that nobody watches.
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So we're going to discuss that today with my friend Chris Sims
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and now the Alberta Director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
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We're talking about the Liberal leadership contestants
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and their fast and loose ideas about the carbon tax and so much more.
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So joining me now is good friend of the show and my good friend, Chris Sims.
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She's the Alberta Director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation.
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Most of us suffered through the Liberal leadership debate last night.
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If you're still alive, Mark Carney didn't drink all of your life force.
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We've got a Canadian Taxpayers Federation lawsuit against the CBC.
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And the suggestion by a Minister of the Crown that you are a bad citizen
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if you think that journalists should not be paid by the government.
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Chris, it's a real packed pierogi of the show today.
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Let's talk about the Liberal leadership debate last night.
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Three of the four on the stage talked about cancelling the carbon tax.
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Karina Gould hasn't gotten the memo that people find the carbon tax unpopular.
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But the other three, they're not really cancelling the carbon tax.
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Franco Tarrazzano and I were texting back and forth while we were all over Twitter.
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I will point out, first off, it took them nearly an hour to get to anything resembling.
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I know it felt like, you know, it was like dog years watching it.
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So it took them about an hour to get to anything remotely affecting the affordable life for Canadians, the cost of living for Canadians.
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The first hour felt like I was watching some rerun of BBC World.
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Like, you know, one of kind of the alternate shows, too.
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So droning on and on about foreign affairs when literally half of Canadians now are within 200 bucks of not being able to pay their bills.
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Like, they don't have enough money to buy stuff here in Canada.
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Because the vast majority of the people who were standing on that stage were current or former cabinet ministers and or global bureaucrats.
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So they don't notice when peanut butter is $9 a jar.
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So when they finally get to the carbon tax, you're bang on.
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Karina Gould's the only one who isn't saying she's going to hide the carbon tax.
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If they go back, go back and listen to Carney carefully.
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The disdain he has for people who want to scrap the carbon tax is rolling off of him.
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He's going to hide it from you so that you can't see it on your home heating bill.
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The other element here, which blows my mind, is that he actually thinks that he is going
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to make big businesses pay this huge cranked up industrial carbon tax, and it won't have
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He's on the phone talking to fertilizer plants.
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Set up shop in Ohio and Pennsylvania and Michigan.
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Imagine him talking to these international mucky mucks of these companies who have locations
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And at the same time they're on the phone, Fox News business pops up.
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Canada is imposing massive industrial carbon taxes on fertilizer plants and steel manufacturers.
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Like, you would be able to hear the whoops of joy coming from that Oval Office across the
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If folks are so worried about Trump stealing our jobs and industry, maybe we should stop
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strangling our own industries here in Canada and chasing them out.
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Yeah, they're just sending Canadian business into the loving bosom of Donald Trump.
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They're taxing you and they don't appreciate you.
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There was also something I wanted to talk to you about.
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I don't know if you watched the French language debate.
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It was actually painful and I don't speak much French, but it was painful even me listening
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I actually found Mark Carney more palatable in French.
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I like the translator better than the auditory abuse of his monotone in English.
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But there was a point at which the moderator asked, like, hey, what's the average cost of
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a week's worth of groceries for a Canadian family of four?
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However, and Mark Carney was completely unable to answer that question because he's so rich
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And I'm not convinced he's buying a lot of groceries in Canada, if you know what I mean,
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between his three passports, his house in Manhattan and his house in the UK.
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I don't know how much time he actually spends in Ottawa, but it reminded me of that meme from
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Arrested Development where Lucille Bluth is like, well, it's just a banana, Michael.
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Like, he's completely checked out from what the normal people have to pay at all.
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So I found that so interesting and it's, it would have been more effective if this had
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happened in the English debate, but I noticed they kind of skipped that.
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Um, the short answer is the current average family of four spends about $323 per week on
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For my family, which is a family of four that checks out, it's also being pretty careful.
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That's not including things like vitamins or extra health food supplements.
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If you're, you know, care about your kid's health.
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Like any of those expenses, uh, to me, shopping for the same things I always do, mostly meat
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and dairy and some vegetables, things like that.
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Um, and yeah, that's just a standard family of four.
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I've got six people under my roof most days with my in-laws here.
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And then of course, uh, an adult son who does a lot of grocery shopping in my, in my fridge
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But yeah, I mean, complete there, these people are completely checked out from reality.
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So this is what I, and see, this is why this is important because like I mentioned off the
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So MNP, so for people to understand MNP, it's kind of like a, a financial, uh, clearing
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house where they do a lot of financial analysis.
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And every, I think it's every six months or so, they do a survey where they ask people
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about their means, meaning how much money they have to cover expenses.
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And the question usually is something like this.
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Are you, are you within $200 of being able to not be insolvent, meaning make your minimum
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And usually that number of, yes, I'm this close to the brink, fluctuated around high
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Now, after 10 years of inflation and cranked up carbon taxes and terrible government spending,
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it is 50%, half of the country, which is an astonishing number.
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And so it was really important to point out that Mark Carney stayed mute.
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When they asked that question of how much does the average Canadian family spend on a week's
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And the reason why this is important is because that means he's disconnected from the normal
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Meaning he won't notice or care if he cranks up the carbon tax because he won't understand
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The late, great Margaret Thatcher always insisted that her cabinet ministers, gentlemen, knew
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And that was because she wanted them to be connected to working people.
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And she, of course, was famously raised above the shop.
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I really hope this comes up during the election campaign, if we ever get one.
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I want to talk to you about staying on the topic of government spending.
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I've heard some buzz about a tax break from Rick Bell.
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Yes, so to set the stage for folks who aren't here in Alberta, Premier Daniel Smith, leader
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of the UCP party, campaigned on an income tax cut.
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Now, that can sound boring, but it's not because it's a lot of money.
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So she campaigned during the election on reducing the lowest income tax bracket from 10% down to
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In normal people talk, basically, if you move here and you're a police officer or a plumber,
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right, like a tradesman professional type person, you will notice likely that your pay
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If you move here from BC, that's because actually the Alberta income tax bracket at the low end
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It's 10%, like all the way up to $140,000 worth of earnings.
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So they noticed this, gladly, and then they campaigned on a tax cut for all Albertans.
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So what this will do, if they make good on this promise, and they have to, it will save
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If you're in a two-person working family, that's more than $1,500 of savings per year.
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To put that into perspective, we were just talking about groceries, that would cover
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more than a month's worth of big Saturday grocery shopping for a family of four.
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You could rent, I was looking on Kijiji in that last night, you could rent a two-bedroom apartment
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And so they've been pushing it back and pushing it back.
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But Rick Bell got a great scoop in his son column and said it's happening.
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So this is gotta have to happen at the budget on Thursday.
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The other element that we are calling for as a Taxpayers Federation is to keep that budget
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So here in Alberta, we have balanced budget legislation.
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But we did notice last budget, a year ago, their surplus was as thin as a kitten's whisker.
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And they said, oh, we have to borrow from the capital side now in order to save money
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in the future because of some interest rate, blah, blah, blah, credit rating.
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There was a big long song and dance coming from staff as to why that total debt number was
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Even though they said this is balanced and we have a little baby surplus.
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I'm hearing things and we have told them you must balance this budget.
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If they come back with the deficit, I'm going to be getting my doge chainsaw out and saying,
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here's where you can cut next time and you don't need to worry about it.
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All that said, we're in pretty darn good shape here in Alberta.
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What we really love is their spending restraint rule, which is they can only increase spending,
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It must be below the rate of inflation plus population growth from the year previous.
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But if they had done this back in their mid-90s when they first said they were going to,
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we would have more than $300 billion in the bank now.
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Not including investment, not including interest, like stuffed under the mattress in bills,
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$300 billion just from that bit of spending restraint.
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They're on the right track, but they must stay vigilant and focused because we know
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everybody's coming hat in hand saying spend more.
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Yes. And, you know, there's the side quest of what debt actually does.
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So it's not just, you know, like, oh, we borrowed this money, we've got to pay it down.
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The interest on this debt, the debt servicing charges, I mean, it's hospitals' worth of payments
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that we're just giving away to international banksters.
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That's right. So it is billions and billions and billions of dollars per year that is added
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Instead of that money staying here in Alberta, leading to tax cuts or better serve something,
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it is going to bond fund managers on banks and Bay Street in Toronto.
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And right now, people might remember that beautiful picture of Premier Ralph Klein holding up paid in full.
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And so they must make that number go down and not up.
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Otherwise, they cannot say they are balancing the budget.
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I will point out also, just as more inspiration for them, because this is like, you know, somebody
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Do they really want to start fiddling around with the budget, saying it's balanced, even
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though their spending is going up on the capital side, and even though total debt is going up?
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Because that sounds a lot like Mark Carney saying, I'm going to split the budget magically in two.
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I'll balance the operating, but keep on spending like a drunken sailor on capital.
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There's only one taxpayer, and there's only one total debt, and we are paying interest
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They get creative and cute, but at the end of the day, it's money in, money out.
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It is a very simple calculation at the end of the day.
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Now, I want to ask you about this, because this outraged you in an outraged me.
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Canada's heritage minister, the lady in charge of the CBC.
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Pascale Saint-Ange, she said that you are, and I guess by extension me, because I believe
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If you do not believe that we should fund the CBC in perpetuity, if you believe that
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the government should not be paying journalists, you are unpatriotic.
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So, as a preface for people listening, I'm sorry for just rage-tweeting you or rage-texting
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So, I'm going through her announcement, and I'm watching it live, and I'm super mad, and
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So, what the heritage minister did is she came out, people probably remember, where we've
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been telling the CBC what we want them to do for the last year.
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That was actually all part of an official process, believe it or not.
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The Ministry of Heritage was on a listening tour about the CBC.
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Were they at the CBC head offices, just going up and down the elevator, going from cubicle
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Because it felt like they didn't talk to actual normal people again.
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I think they were busy delivering, like, kale smoothies to, like, their friends in Toronto.
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But this is why the Taxpayers Federation went to Ottawa, and why I testified, and my colleague
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Ryan Thorpe testified, to defund the CBC for three main reasons.
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Because it's a huge waste of money, next to nobody is watching it, and it is a conflict
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of interest for a journalist to be paid by the government.
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Heritage Minister did not give a flying kite about it.
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Here's what we shall do with the state broadcaster.
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Number one, they want to give them a billion more dollars.
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Second, they want to remove all advertising from anything touching news.
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So, you know the little bit of money that they do make themselves?
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You could run a radio network on that, by the way, but they won't, because they don't
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And, she wants to make the CBC the official fact-checkers for all Canadians.
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The guys who said that the Freedom Convoy was some sort of Kremlin operation at least
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No matter what, you should not let the government be your arbiter of truth.
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If it were a liberal government or a conservative government, don't let the bureaucrats and the
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That is very bad for democracy and for advocacy.
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And then, she got really vicious, and this is what caused me to get mad, because I obviously,
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and thousands of Canadian Taxpayers Federation supporters, want to defund the CBC for the reasons
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we have articulated, and outside of the Taxpayers Federation, there are tons more people, of
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course, who want to defund the CBC for good reasons.
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This minister, who is paid $300,000 per year to open her mouth and say stuff like this, said
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that if you want to defund the CBC, you cannot say that you love Canada.
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So, that made me pretty mad, because number one, who is that bureaucrat, that desk ruler,
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to tell any Canadian whether or not he or she can say they love this country?
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Number two, speaking personally, I love Canada.
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Both sides of my family fought in the wars, and they pioneered in this country to build wonderful
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lives for themselves and for their communities.
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There is no way I'm taking marching orders from that woman as to whether or not I can
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So, I just felt a lot of anger on behalf of my family circle and my supporting circle of,
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like, CTF and, like, Freedom-type folks who I know love this country.
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They might love it for different reasons than Pascal Saint-Ange loves it.
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But this is what gets me, Sheila, even if I were having a disagreement with someone who
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loves listening to the CBC, I wouldn't dare tell them, well, you can't say that you love
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Canada then, because you want a state broadcaster.
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It's crazy that that is a measure of their, for the Liberals, that's a measure of your
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Like, you could be civically involved, you know, volunteer in your community, serve in
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But you are told that you are not a good Canadian by some hackneyed government bureaucrat
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making a mint that you're not a good Canadian, that you don't care about your fellow Canadian
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And I hope that she gets shown the door when we eventually get that election we deserve.
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It was one of those things where it was such a, usually we send out kind of a note to our
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supporters right away when big things like that drop.
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So, because we want to be happy warriors at the CTF, and we want to keep people engaged
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and give them fellowship because they have enough to worry about.
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But I was frankly, I was too angry to write it.
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So now that I've kind of simmered down a little bit, I can focus more on the money.
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The fact that they want to be less accountable and spend more taxpayers' money is astonishing.
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Yeah, I'll get to that in a second because it's funny because they're, for some reason,
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the CBC is against, or at least Pascal Saint-Ange is against taking in advertising dollars, but
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But I wanted to just touch on, I don't know if you saw from Black Locks the other day,
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yesterday it was, where they want, CBC wants to make their journalists ride bikes.
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Black Locks had the access to information documents where CBC says, in an effort to be more environmentally
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conscious, we're going to make the peons who work at the company ride bikes.
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Because I do not believe for a second that Rosie Barton is in the bike lane on her way
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And I definitely don't believe that former CBC CEO Catherine Tate was taking a bike from
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New York where she actually lived, or off to Paris where she charged us for her vacation
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And I thought, you know, on some level, good, I hope they do, because they sure like to lecture
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That, and of course, can I just tell you a little inside baseball?
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Of course, it is the lowly, you know, interns and the, you know, cub reporters, we used to
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call them back in the day, who they would, of course, tell to ride bikes.
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Um, full disclosure, I worked within the CBC for about six weeks, even though it was not
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Um, they, they were professional and I didn't have any actual personal beef with any of them.
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Um, and so, and it was actually shortly after that, the Sun News Network started.
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My, my, my wish to defund the CBC has nothing to do with that.
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It actually has to do with one, it's a huge waste of money.
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And two, as a journalist, it is just like spiritually, morally, ethically wrong to be paid by the
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You cannot be on government payroll and hold government to account.
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The fact that I need to express this out loud is kind of weird.
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But just a little thing, the CBC treats their kind of new, younger employees pretty poorly
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I'm not going to name names, but there were senior people at the CBC who would speak to
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their producers and interns in the way that would shock you in the private sector.
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And I've worked in tons of private sector newsrooms.
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I mean, like snapping in their face saying, go get me a sandwich.
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Like legitimately looking at them saying, you're in my chair.
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Now, I never heard any of that, but I saw it happening to younger people.
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And this is one of the reasons why they do need to be defunded.
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Because if there is like a colonel, a phoenix deep down in there somewhere, if they're removed
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from government funding, they will have to find that and they will have to be reborn
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They'll have to do fundraisers from people who truly want good journalism out of that
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And hey, they could do it if they actually plotted their course correctly.
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Doesn't mean that a lot of your viewers would watch them.
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And it would clear out a lot of that weird entitled waste of, hey, interns, you guys all
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need to bike while the executive makes half a million dollars a year.
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I will point out they have a new executive now.
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I have requested information to find out how much she is making.
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Because the previous one, Catherine Tate, was a CEO level seven, which means she makes about
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So as of right now, though, I don't know what level their new CEO is at.
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I will report back to you as soon as I find out.
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What I thought was interesting about that bike story was that CBC found a way to also make
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We're going to add bike shops, bike repair shops to the CBC offices so that while you're
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biking around with your camera gear on your back, like some sort of two wheeled Sherpa,
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We'll hire bike mechanics and we'll just put them in the CBC offices.
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Take those rose-colored glasses and just put them on the shelf.
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Well, and the reason I really wanted to talk to you today is you guys at the CTF are suing
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And I alluded to it that apparently the CBC, they're not for taking advertising dollars,
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Um, so all people know we've been wanting to defund the CBC for years now.
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Um, what some people may not know is that one of the main, the main reason why we have
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a lot of this information, including stuff like millions and millions of dollars going
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out in bonuses, even while they're crying poor and broke, is because of the work of our
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full-time paid Canadian Taxpayers Federation investigative journalist, Ryan Thorpe.
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He totally disagrees with the government funding journalists.
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He loves journalists so much, Sheila, he actually has a tattoo of the old 30-30, like
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Um, and so Ryan, very mild-mannered, he was at the committee hearing with me, um, he has
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been very calmly and politely doing freedom of information requests with the CBC, saying,
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okay, we know the amount that you guys are dishing out in bonuses.
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So, which executives are getting these bonuses, and how much are they getting?
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Very simple question, because this is taxpayers' money.
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If this were a private company, we, that's not our wheelhouse at all.
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So you and I and all of your viewers and listeners get to know where they're spending that money.
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Also, Ryan has been asking, okay, how much money do you spend on advertising, and where
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Meaning, they're taking taxpayers' money into the CBC, and then buying ads elsewhere, but
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we don't know how much they're spending, and where they're spending it.
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So we have gone through all the proper channels repeatedly over and over again, okay?
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Freedom of information requests, access to information, tell us this information.
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So, the Canadian Taxpayers Federation is taking it to court.
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So, we also have an in-house counsel, which is a fancy way of saying our own lawyer, Devin
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He is also the Atlantic director, so anything that happens out on the East Coast.
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We all do a bit of double duty here at the CTF.
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So, he is spearheading this along with our other legal team.
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So, we are taking the state broadcaster to court to force it to be accountable to taxpayers.
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So, I guess that's a great place to sort of wrap up everything.
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Do we have a timeline on, like, no, no, just filings now?
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Whenever I ask a lawyer that, they kind of look at me fondly, like I'm asking them about
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I've been told we should hear something six to 12 months around there.
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Like, once we get rolling on something, we move pretty fast.
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We were an intervener opposing the No More Pipelines law, you know, fighting for Alberta
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We've been really active on the free speech file, that sort of stuff.
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We do, like, in robes with the funny outfits, in court stuff, too.
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I mean, we could have, and everything moves at the speed of government and the courts,
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but we could have a new, potentially a new heritage minister in an entirely new party
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by the time this weaves its way through the court system.
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But I think it's, either way, important for accountability, because, to borrow a phrase
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from Donald Trump, there's a deep state in the bureaucracy.
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And when the government changes, those people are so entrenched that they will work against
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the new government and the new government's agenda.
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Yes, even if things change politically in Ottawa, to your point exactly, everybody's
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Like, we must, because this stuff will not get done.
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It will not change, because even if the Prime Minister wants to defund the CBC, the roadblocks,
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I can only imagine, that'll be put up in front of them, will be crazy.
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So, hopefully, to your point, this case is moot, because the CBC is defunded, and there's
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It's really important to get your ground game going, and to dot all of your I's and cross
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And again, we've been really calm and nice about this.
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He's been very carefully filing access, filing access, and it's been stonewalling for
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So, I guess, lastly, how do people get involved in the CTF's fight for accountability?
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As you said, you're interveners on other things, and then those access to information
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So, there's a lot of work happening at the CTF behind the scenes before people get the
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press release in their email, like I did this morning, saying, hey, we're taking the
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Yeah, a lot of work went into that press release.
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So, I really wanted to appeal to people in the sense of fellowship and being in the
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Like we were saying, half of Canadians are struggling.
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You don't need to spend money to do it, but you'll be part of the fight.
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You'll be in the arena, and it builds fellowship.
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So, you can go to our website, taxpayer.com, click on the little petition drop down, and
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I even have one in there for you and me, Sheila, for the day that we do go to BC and go thrifting
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to take the PST off of thrift shop items, which, yeah, the provincial government targets poor
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Oh, no home equity tax, scrap capital gains, big ones.
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And then you'll get updates from us on this is where we're at.
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And it really does push politicians because they don't move unless they're pushed.
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So, go to the website, sign the petitions that you really love, and you'll be part of
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And, you know, for people who are like, well, the Liberals are in charge or I'm in BC and
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the NDP are in charge, what's that going to do?
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You know what this does for the opposition politicians?
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It shows them which direction the parade is marching.
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The bigger the parade, the more likely an opportunistic politician is going to jump in front of it
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And that's really important to show them where the momentum is.
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And this also, it shows what's possible for the political parties.
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Because if they see us out there fighting, like, completely scrap the carbon tax, including
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They see us out there fighting, that gives them more room.
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But thanks for all the work that you do to advocate on behalf of families just like mine
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and to hold governments to account on behalf of the voters.
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What you care about is smaller, more accountable government.
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I want to know what you think about the work that we do here at Rebel News.
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Not just here on the gun show, but around the network.
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And staying on the topic of government waste, I thought I would go see what you guys had
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to say about our ExposeTheWaste.com campaign, where we document all the weird, woke DEI ways
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the Trudeau government has been wasting your money over the years.
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A couple of days ago, I did a story about how Global Affairs Canada sent $2 million to Cambodia,
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And a lot of the money was targeted at alternative protein sources, more climate resilient.
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They want the Cambodian lady farmers to grow crickets.
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And so I went to the YouTube section, comment section, to see what you guys had to say.
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Gary, 5622 says, Trudeau should switch from beef wellington to bugs first before pouring
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millions into bug farming for the little people.
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Does he have aspirations to continue to lead by decree and not by example?
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Do you think Klaus Schwab, the former head of the World Economic Forum, the founder of
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the World Economic Forum, the guy really behind the alternative protein push, do you think
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So, crickets are for us because their plan is to make beef too expensive through carbon
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taxes and all those sorts of things for the normal people.
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Regular viewers of my work know that I am really sort of focused on personally, not in
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my work, but I will mention it from time to time, that I am sort of undoing in my personal
00:40:45.860
Again, I reiterate, I'm not here to give you health advice, but I should tell you that
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everything you know about the food pyramid is absolutely wrong.
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And I think that served Big Pharma's purpose for a time, right?
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Make you sick by inverting the food pyramid and then offer you the medicines to fix what
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they've done to you by advising you to eat not in the optimal human way.
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But now if you are a globalist looking to control the masses, one of the best ways to do that
00:41:24.200
is to make sure that they are weak, both physically, but also psychologically, mentally weak.
00:41:31.840
They don't want you to be able to fight your way out of control, but also think your way
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And one of the best ways to do that is to deplete your brain of things that you need that are found
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One of them being DHA, which scientists have called the consciousness chemical.
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Babies who are deprived of DHA by virtue of being born to vegan mothers, a lot of them never
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They're pushing you not to eat animal products.
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Brandon Hallam 51 says, so farming bugs is natural, but farming cattle and chickens and
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You know, I'm glad you brought this up because cattle, especially in the Western world on
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the prairies, on the Great Plains, they actually only replace the large ruminant herds of a couple
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When before we used to have large herds of bison roaming the Great Plains, beating up the earth,
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throwing seeds around, leaving them all over the place, aerating the soil.
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If you care about those sorts of things, I don't.
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And isn't it funny how in the developing world, they don't tell you to get a chicken because
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if you get a chicken, you can have other chickens, but you can also have eggs, which are high
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in those things that the developing brain needs.
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But rather than say, okay, well, the developing world needs chickens and small ruminants, they
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say, no, just cut out the chicken, cut out the middleman of the chicken, and you just eat
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Again, think about the reason they're telling you to do that.
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They're not rewriting food traditions or undoing cultural norms and reshaping communities.
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Cambodians have been eating crickets for decades.
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I'll keep reading because you'll get where I'm getting at.
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Crickets became part of the Cambodians diet during the famine years of the Khmer Rouge during
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This is, in fact, in line with the Cambodian diet, but I guess that doesn't play well into
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You're saying to me that Cambodians resorted to eating crickets during a genocide, and so
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now that should be just a normal thing that Cambodians eat?
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They ate crickets so that they didn't starve to death and die during the genocidal rule
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And so you think that now that this should just be a normal thing instead of giving them
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chickens if you're worried about nutrition in the developing world.
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Maybe you guys should read some of your comments on the criticism side.
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Read them to a friend who loves you, who cares about you and doesn't want you to embarrass
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Find someone who loves you before you post something saying that just Cambodians should
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always eat crickets because they did it so that they didn't die of starvation during a
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OK, well, everybody, that's the show for today.
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I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next weekend.
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As always, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.