Rebel News Podcast - August 16, 2023


SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ The Alberta Government is pushing the pause button on green energy projects


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Alberta s premier has put a pause on green energy projects and the left and the mainstream media, but I repeat myself, are losing their minds. What does that mean for Alberta? What does it mean for the grid? And why is this happening?

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00:00:00.000 Alberta's premier has put a pause on green energy projects and the left and the mainstream media,
00:00:06.040 but I repeat myself, are losing their minds. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.
00:00:11.340 Earlier today, the federal government released the draft clean electricity regulations.
00:00:33.900 We will be doing detailed analysis in the months ahead. However, one thing is clear.
00:00:38.580 The draft regulations are unconstitutional, irresponsible, unrealistic, and would make life less affordable for Albertans and Canadians.
00:00:50.220 They will not be implemented in our province, period. They can't.
00:00:54.140 We are beginning our talks with the federal government, and if we can't get alignment, Alberta will chart its own path to ensure we have reliable and affordable electricity for the people we serve.
00:01:03.640 This means making sure we have adequate natural gas baseload and incentivizing CCUS-abated natural gas generation, small modular reactors, hydrogen, and a sustainable amount of wind, solar, and other renewables to drive down electricity costs.
00:01:20.560 Albertans and our government care about responsible environmental stewardship.
00:01:24.460 We are confident Alberta's plan will get us to a reliable and affordable carbon-neutral power grid by 2050.
00:01:30.300 This is the direction Alberta is going. We invite the federal government to support us.
00:01:36.280 Alberta's Premier Daniel Smith continues to impress me with her boldness and her ability to ignore the screaming and the crying and the gnashing of the teeth that continues to come from the left and the mainstream media when she does something that they don't like,
00:01:53.420 which are things that are generally in the interest of everyday Albertans.
00:01:58.960 In this case, she has put a pause on green energy projects until a thorough examination is done of the Alberta electrical grid and the end of life of these green energy projects.
00:02:13.500 Because in oil and gas, you need to have a plan and a budget for the end of life of your project, but not so in green energy.
00:02:23.140 They can just let these things run their course and then move on to the next thing.
00:02:29.420 And it leaves Alberta taxpayers and Alberta landowners holding the bag and then, you know, the impact on the grid.
00:02:36.220 If you have a strong reliance on green energy and then the wind doesn't blow or the sun doesn't shine and there's no fossil fuel backup, what does that mean for Alberta?
00:02:48.900 Rolling blackouts? Brownouts?
00:02:50.900 We saw in Texas a few years ago what happened when there was too much green energy on the grid in an oil-rich place.
00:03:02.020 Sound familiar?
00:03:03.200 And a catastrophic weather event, in that case a snowstorm, hit the state.
00:03:10.120 The power was out for days and people died.
00:03:13.500 And so how do we stop that from happening here in Alberta?
00:03:17.380 Alberta, our premier, is trying to find out before she allows any more green energy projects to go forward.
00:03:24.360 Great. Seems reasonable to normal people and not so the left.
00:03:29.860 So joining me now to discuss this and several other things, including the Hawaiian wildfires,
00:03:37.360 electric battery storage farms and the implications of what happens there, if those things set on fire.
00:03:48.580 And a few other things is my friend Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science.
00:03:53.580 Take a listen.
00:03:54.160 So joining me now to talk about the overheated rhetoric around Alberta's premier Daniel Smith pausing renewables
00:04:09.980 for a very short time, by the way, is my friend Michelle Sterling from Friends of Science.
00:04:14.240 And Michelle does a really great job of cutting through the nonsense and the hyperbole and going straight to the facts. 1.00
00:04:21.580 And, you know, one of the things Michelle really does is tell us all to chill out when the media tells us to panic. 0.99
00:04:29.380 Michelle, what can you tell us about Premier Smith's pause on renewables?
00:04:33.100 Because if you listen to the left in the media, but I'm probably repeating myself there, the sky's falling
00:04:38.020 and millions and gandillions of people are going to be unemployed.
00:04:43.180 Well, it may be that some people will be unemployed, but I think it's probably better than Alberta going to blackout.
00:04:49.580 And that risk was very clearly laid out in the Alberta Electric System Operator's 2022 Market Statistics Report,
00:04:59.520 which came out in March of 2023.
00:05:02.120 And in it, they noted that last fall, we had seven grid level three alerts.
00:05:09.740 And that means that blackouts are imminent or that they're going to have to load shed from, say, a large industrial user.
00:05:17.520 So those seven blackouts, in every case, the collapse of wind was a key factor.
00:05:28.800 And four of those happened in December when it was really, really cold.
00:05:34.820 There was extreme cold all across the province.
00:05:37.080 So a very high risk situation.
00:05:39.900 In fact, December 20th was one of them.
00:05:42.760 So just imagine just before Christmas, you go to blackout and all the food in your fridge gets, you know, unfrozen and everything else.
00:05:49.760 And again, you know, people always think of a blackout as being, oh, you know, maybe one or two hours till they get things back up.
00:05:56.500 Well, you know, it can be worse than that.
00:05:58.240 Also, people should recognize when the system has to shed some load and go to one of the big industrial users and ask them to please be disconnected from the grid, they're paid for that curtailment.
00:06:15.640 They're paid many thousands of dollars for that.
00:06:18.720 So on the upside, it does save us from going to blackout, but we still have to pay for it.
00:06:23.340 Now, in the interim, I note that about a thousand megawatts of, we were short about a thousand megawatts of dispatchable power last year.
00:06:35.040 So dispatchable power is like natural gas.
00:06:38.340 It's the kind of power that you can turn up or down at will, whereas wind and solar are entirely dependent on whether the wind is blowing or the sun is shining.
00:06:49.280 So that's not dispatchable power.
00:06:50.960 Anyway, we were short about a thousand megawatts last year, and that's probably another factor in the near blackouts.
00:07:01.060 Now, I've seen online that we've since added almost a thousand megawatts.
00:07:06.160 So that will bring us back into shape.
00:07:08.860 But if we're planning to add more renewables, then once again, the system will be unstable.
00:07:14.720 So I think the premier did a good thing.
00:07:16.520 Now, there's something I learned from that in that I had no idea that there these green energy projects are going ahead without a plan for the end of life of the project.
00:07:28.400 For me, I was sort of blindsided by this because in oil and gas, particularly in the oil sands, there has to be a plan in place for the end of life of the project with regard to reclamation and then managing the site going forward.
00:07:43.000 And that's all in the approvals process of the project, as in a shovel cannot go into the ground unless there's a plan for this thing when construction is done and when the useful life of the project is over.
00:07:58.020 There's none of that, apparently, happening in the green energy industry.
00:08:03.100 So when you see the outrage from the environmentalists left, all we're asking them to do is do what we're expecting the oil industry to do and that the oil industry has already done for decades.
00:08:17.140 That's right. And when you look at the reclamation in the oil industry, if you look at the oil sands, really, we're cleaning up Mother Nature's spill.
00:08:26.040 And you look at the wetlands that have been recreated, you know, they're beautiful, thriving wetlands.
00:08:32.020 And the reason why there's like a 40-year certification process is so that people can't just drive up with some sod, you know, lay some sod and plug in a few trees and say, we're done.
00:08:43.160 You know, it's got to be a thriving ecosystem that will survive on its own and be very similar to what was there at the beginning.
00:08:50.380 With wind and solar, the problem is that, you know, many of the aspects of these constructions are quite toxic, solar panels, leach, cadmium and lead.
00:09:03.280 So you do not want them to be on prime agricultural land, maybe out in the special areas, you know, where there's very limited opportunity for agriculture there.
00:09:15.000 That might be a good area. It's also a very sunny area, but you don't want it on prime agricultural land.
00:09:21.500 And, you know, maybe it won't leach today, but as it gets damaged over time, that's when the layers start to disintegrate.
00:09:30.780 And cadmium, there's an interesting story about Japan where they had some cadmium leach into agricultural soil, and it caused people to have itai, itai, which translates to ouch, ouch, but it's actually an internal disastrous poisoning of the body that cannot really be remediated.
00:09:57.560 So you don't want it. So you don't want that on agricultural land.
00:10:00.920 The other thing with wind turbines, there's a tremendous amount of concrete used in them.
00:10:07.820 And we have one example from Transalta. It's from quite a few years ago, the Taylor Wind Farm.
00:10:13.820 It was only up for seven years. Then when they took it down, they reclaimed the concrete, 60 tons of concrete from one wind farm.
00:10:23.380 And the way that they reclaimed it is they sort of scattered it alongside one of their hydro facilities as soil erosion control.
00:10:35.080 So it didn't go in the landfill. So that's good. But, you know, how many places can we scatter 60 tons of concrete and call it reclamation?
00:10:43.660 Now, I understand there are ways to reclaim concrete, like you can grind it up and use it for aggregate or something.
00:10:49.940 Some people have noted that on our Twitter feed. Great. But then let's have that written up in the approvals.
00:10:56.520 Now, the other thing people should be aware of, you know, I mentioned that we now have another thousand megawatts on the grid.
00:11:03.320 There are 23,000 megawatts of projects in the pipeline.
00:11:09.100 So, you know, to keep the grid balanced, you have to have equivalent conventional power to go with the renewable power.
00:11:17.460 That would mean we would have to build an additional 23,000 megawatts of conventional power.
00:11:24.920 And a further issue is that, you know, a couple of the upcoming gas coal to gas conversions and small gas plants, you know, because of the way that the clean electricity standard is structured and stated, it's not clear if they would be approved.
00:11:42.680 So, you know, you have people who are already spending a lot of time and money to switch over to gas, only to now be told, well, hey, maybe not, or maybe you'll be penalized, or maybe now you have to add CCUS to this project, which will up the cost many billions of dollars.
00:12:00.460 And another thing that people are not aware of at all is that in the background, there's a group of senators called the Climate Senators, Senators for Climate.
00:12:15.720 So there are about 40, 50 senators, and they have a bill, I think it's S243.
00:12:21.960 We have a short video about it on our website, but they plan to cut off all financing for any project that has any relationship to fossil fuels.
00:12:33.960 So, you know, you may, the governments may say, oh, yes, we're going to grandfather in these gas plants, or oh, yes, we would never shut you down entirely, don't worry about it, you know, no problem.
00:12:45.080 In the background, the senators are actively trying to cut off financing for any fossil fuel operation.
00:12:52.580 And these senators have, of course, all the ENGOs on board, a whole bunch of big investors on board, you know, they've got lots and lots of very powerful supporters.
00:13:04.380 So, you know, we might be fooled into saying, oh, well, I guess it's going to be okay, then only to have this end run by the Senate, which is supposed to be the chamber of sober second thought.
00:13:17.580 You know, as you say that, that's exactly what Mark Carney does for the United Nations, former head of the Bank of Canada.
00:13:26.900 That's what he does.
00:13:27.920 He works to debank fossil fuel projects.
00:13:31.080 And it looks like he has been in the ear of these senators who are, I guess, applying a social credit environmental score to these energy projects that are in the national interest.
00:13:43.000 And if we think this can't happen, ask a convoyer what happens when you have the wrong social credit score, according to the government.
00:13:49.940 Right. And one more thing, we have to remember that Catherine McKenna, who is working with the high level expert group at the UN and her report in Teherty Matters, their objective is to have no fossil fuels whatsoever.
00:14:06.560 Not just that you can buy and trade, you know, cap and trade, that you could buy carbon credits to offset your emissions, not just that you reduce it or that you reduce the intensity, nada, nothing.
00:14:18.920 So, you know, this is like hyper craziness at the UN level, but she's also a very influential person.
00:14:26.260 She won the, she was awarded the Légion d'honneur from France, the Legion of Honour.
00:14:34.240 And why? Because she enacted French national carbon policy internationally, especially in Canada.
00:14:41.980 Right. That was the France-Canada climate culture agreement of 2015, I think.
00:14:47.760 Wow. Now, just shifting gears, but also on the very same topic, as we talk about end of life of green energy projects and what to do with these toxic sites when we're done.
00:15:01.020 One thing on the list of things we wanted to talk about was as they move away from fossil fuels or try to get us to move away from fossil fuels and shift to green energy, you end up with these massive battery farms.
00:15:11.680 And these massive battery farms can be highly toxic and highly dangerous, particularly if a fire breaks out there, because you do need specialized firefighting to happen there.
00:15:25.300 And again, this is, I just want to apply the same standards we give to the oil industry on green energy.
00:15:31.420 So many, I think all oil and gas installations, they have to have industrially trained firefighters on site.
00:15:40.760 Some of them are private, some of them work directly for the company, but that's, again, not a standard set for green energy.
00:15:46.560 Yeah, well, there's a fellow, I don't remember his name, actually, but he's a scientist in the States, and he's been involved in opposing various wind projects and battery projects down there.
00:16:01.360 And he calls them battery electric storage system bombs, because when these things start to light on fire, they go without stopping.
00:16:13.220 And the worst thing is the emissions from them are extremely toxic.
00:16:17.860 Hydrogen fluoride is something that basically can just rot you in a moment.
00:16:23.280 And he calls it using firemen as guinea pigs.
00:16:26.480 So most of these battery electric storage facilities would be outside of major communities, but that means that rural firefighters, most of whom are volunteers and not that well-equipped, would be the first responders, and they would definitely be putting their lives seriously at risk.
00:16:45.960 And there's a peer-reviewed paper, I think I sent you, where they did an experiment in Europe, testing out the emissions from these lithium-ion battery fires.
00:16:58.120 And it's pretty frightening.
00:17:02.240 And again, you know, that's not going to happen all the time, but it just has to happen once, and bad things happen.
00:17:09.540 And, you know, and these facilities are very large, like the Transalta one at Pincher Creek.
00:17:18.260 I think it's about the size of a soccer pitch.
00:17:22.300 So, you know, when we were talking about the media outrage, I remember that Jason Markossoff had a story in CBC,
00:17:31.380 and he'd interviewed Bino from Pembina Institute, who kind of blithely said, well, they can just add battery storage, and, you know, no problem.
00:17:41.340 Well, first of all, it's phenomenally expensive.
00:17:44.600 Secondly, it has to be replaced every 10 years, or millions of dollars, because the battery life is short, you know, when you're charging and discharging.
00:17:53.160 And battery storage like that really doesn't cover anything more than a few minutes to a couple of hours.
00:18:01.460 So you say, oh, well, let's, and we'll buy a whole bunch of batteries, and then we'll cover all the hours.
00:18:07.220 Well, you know, people don't realize that power use varies on like an hourly basis.
00:18:14.960 And Ken Gregory did an analysis for us, for the U.S., actually, and found that it would cost something like $200 trillion U.S.
00:18:26.300 I can't remember off the top of my head, but I can send it to you, to have a wind-solar battery configuration that would power the U.S., which is more than the U.S. GDP.
00:18:39.760 And that would be similar in Alberta.
00:18:41.440 I think one of our reports indicates it would be about $2 trillion to have sufficient battery backup, because you can't have it just for two or three days or even a week.
00:18:54.960 You need enough to cover reliably a long period of time, which often can be 30, 40 days.
00:19:03.500 So it's phenomenally expensive.
00:19:05.560 It's dangerous, and, you know, it's not something that you can just blithely do overnight.
00:19:14.460 Yeah, and it will be in rural communities in prime agricultural farmland.
00:19:19.080 Like, that's the only place with that kind of room to create these sort of facilities.
00:19:25.160 Also in the news, I wanted to ask you about this, because you did a really great video, again, telling people to calm down, but also taking the right tone amidst a tragedy.
00:19:36.640 Right now we see, as is always the case with any sort of wildfire, that the left is using the graves of the people who have died and the people who have suffered loss and tragedy to push their climate change agenda.
00:19:52.940 And again, fires in Hawaii, just like the fires in Alberta, like the fires in B.C., like the fires in Quebec, the left is telling us that these are caused by climate change.
00:20:03.160 So tell us what you found when you looked into the issue.
00:20:07.240 Well, it turns out that the Hawaiian islands, especially the Lahaina area, have been at serious risk of wildfire for a long time.
00:20:17.600 And our forestry wildfire consultant said actually he's surprised it hadn't happened until now.
00:20:24.740 And one thing that's happened is the islands used to have a lot of sugarcane and pineapple plantations.
00:20:30.620 So these were all irrigated and tended.
00:20:34.880 And over time, that industry has shut down.
00:20:37.920 I think it's gone from about 80% to about 45% land use now or something like that.
00:20:44.040 In its place has grown all of this invasive species of grass, which I've got a video I can send you of a fire in Oahu.
00:20:54.020 With the grass is about three meters tall, and then it dries.
00:21:01.280 So, you know, people always think that the islands are lush, tropical places.
00:21:05.240 They are, but they also have a dry season, and it depends on what side of the island you're on.
00:21:10.740 So if you're on the drier side, and you have all these lush grasses standing tall,
00:21:16.980 when they dry, it's just like the best kindling ever.
00:21:21.520 It's tremendous fuel load.
00:21:23.320 And then if you have a fire start there and a wind, it'll just run right through it.
00:21:29.440 And you can see pictures on Google Maps where the grass grows right up to these communities.
00:21:35.820 So unfortunately, you know, the grass lights on fire, the amber storm comes, it enters into houses.
00:21:45.380 And the other thing our wildfire consultant said is that, you know, most things in homes are combustible, very combustible now.
00:21:52.460 Like, there are different materials today.
00:21:54.560 So a lot of these houses, unfortunately, burn from the inside out.
00:21:58.400 And the trees didn't burn so much.
00:22:01.420 You know, people are saying, well, why didn't the trees burn?
00:22:03.580 Because it was essentially a grass fire that just swept through.
00:22:07.920 You know, it wasn't like a slow burn where trees would then actually, after a time, catch on fire and burn down.
00:22:15.200 And it kind of went through all the combustibles and kept going.
00:22:19.900 So it's a terrible tragedy.
00:22:22.900 And I'm sure that there will be many more people lost because, you know, it's very hard to escape.
00:22:30.460 And probably a lot of people simply suffocated.
00:22:32.980 Yeah, I mean, anybody who lives on the prairies knows just how fast a grass fire can move.
00:22:40.980 I mean, it is so fast.
00:22:42.880 It's almost as though you can't get out of the way of it.
00:22:45.160 And that seems to be sort of what happened in Hawaii.
00:22:48.300 And it's just terrible, especially if you're unaccustomed to experiencing that.
00:22:53.280 Grass fires are a thing that happens on the prairies all the time.
00:22:55.860 A spark from a train can cause a grass fire that can burn for days and days.
00:23:00.840 A cigarette butt out the window if you live in an area that has been a grass fire waiting to happen, but it hasn't happened yet.
00:23:08.720 You really don't know what to do when it does.
00:23:11.520 And you can look at our presentation, which is on YouTube.
00:23:15.660 And I will also post the PowerPoint on our blog.
00:23:18.840 But you can see that for a long time, the wildfire people in Hawaii have been assessing the potential risks and dealing with other wildfires.
00:23:30.200 There have been many other wildfires, but not combined with this kind of wind.
00:23:35.460 So just a tremendous tragedy all around.
00:23:42.720 It is, but leave it to the environmentalist left to use a tragedy to their own ends.
00:23:48.100 I wanted to ask you about something that is near and dear to my heart, and I think yours as well.
00:23:56.420 And that is the ability to speak our minds on issues that we have carefully researched, to share our feelings, to share our findings.
00:24:04.520 But it doesn't seem like that could be the case if the left gets their way with some policies that are being led out of the United Nations.
00:24:14.940 So why don't you tell us about what the policies that are proposed could mean for Canada,
00:24:21.700 but also what they could mean for skeptics of official narratives like yourself, and I guess myself too.
00:24:27.100 Well, people may not be aware that in June, just shortly after the special interlocutor on missing children and unmarked graves,
00:24:40.680 that's Kimberly Murray, just after her interim report came out, I think it was four days after,
00:24:46.240 the Justice Department issued an action directive on the United Nations Declaration of Rights for Indigenous Peoples,
00:24:58.460 or commonly known as UNDRIP.
00:25:01.380 UNDRIP was adopted, I think it was in 2021, not too sure.
00:25:06.980 UNDRIP was adopted, and in the directive, they want to align all laws in Canada with UNDRIP.
00:25:18.180 So this could have extremely far-reaching consequences for everything in Canada.
00:25:25.980 Now, as part of the special interlocutor's report, she declared that people like myself
00:25:34.060 who have worked for many years with historical research.
00:25:40.460 I worked with Dr. Hugh Dempsey at the Glenbow Museum for three years.
00:25:47.500 He was my research supervisor, as I did a number of historical documentaries,
00:25:52.400 and I continued doing historical work for the rest of that decade,
00:25:56.780 and often consulted with him and the other people there.
00:25:59.500 So what I'm saying is, I come from a point of view of knowledge.
00:26:06.760 The special interlocutor would like to silence people like me,
00:26:11.980 and also the person who's in charge of the archives at the National Centre for Truth and Reconciliation,
00:26:19.040 Raymond Frogner.
00:26:20.780 He would also like to silence me.
00:26:23.660 So, Kimberly Murray has sent to the UN, and you need to understand, she is just a civil servant.
00:26:36.160 She's not an elected official of any kind.
00:26:38.540 She was supposed to report to the justice minister.
00:26:41.620 She sent the UN special rapporteur on the rights, the human rights of Indigenous people.
00:26:50.260 His name is Jose Francisco Calitze.
00:26:54.360 She sent him a report accusing Canada of genocide.
00:26:59.180 And it's important to note that the day after Canada adopted UNDRIP,
00:27:04.120 China accused Canada of genocide.
00:27:08.320 So, I don't see that there's evidence of genocide in Canada,
00:27:13.240 in terms of the Indian residential school issue.
00:27:16.160 And I've written quite a few commentaries about it,
00:27:19.720 even though I know that a lot of people hate me for doing that.
00:27:23.380 But I can't remain silent.
00:27:27.540 And I also think that there's a, you know,
00:27:31.740 we're basically killing the spirit of our young people
00:27:35.240 by creating this cloud of horror and genocide,
00:27:39.120 and not presenting the constructive and positive aspects of our history
00:27:45.120 that I know about and that I put forward.
00:27:48.220 So, you know, these things are all going to converge in September.
00:27:52.480 And people shouldn't take it lightly.
00:27:54.720 Like, if Canada is accused of genocide by Jose Francisco Calitze,
00:28:02.560 and if China has its way, think of the implications for that
00:28:07.360 in terms of us as a member of the world of nations,
00:28:12.300 a member of the G7, trying to do trade with certain countries.
00:28:16.760 What kind of implications might there be for us?
00:28:19.660 For instance, recall that when South Africa was accused of apartheid,
00:28:24.400 there were huge embargoes.
00:28:26.840 You know, it made life very difficult for them.
00:28:29.220 So, and, you know, I don't see anyone in our political culture
00:28:34.160 saying anything about this.
00:28:37.140 It's like people go, okay.
00:28:38.740 In fact, all of our politicians on October the 27th,
00:28:43.060 I think it was 2022,
00:28:44.540 they all voted to declare Indian residential schools as genocide.
00:28:49.560 All of our politicians did with no evidence and no discussion.
00:28:53.240 So we basically accused ourselves of genocide.
00:28:55.920 We have a civil servant handing over to a UN official documents
00:29:03.540 that are unvetted and, I believe, very incorrect
00:29:06.940 that will put us in a very compromised position trying to argue our case.
00:29:15.260 You know, I think it's terrible
00:29:17.940 because Canadian politicians have put us on par
00:29:22.680 with the likes of China and their Uyghur genocide,
00:29:27.160 the Khmer Rouge, the ISIS caliphate. 0.68
00:29:30.620 Like, that's what they're saying we are
00:29:32.400 when they throw these words around.
00:29:35.240 And I think it's terrible.
00:29:36.960 Yes, of course, bad things happened at residential schools.
00:29:40.760 And the UN, by the way, is fully equipped to investigate genocide.
00:29:44.720 They've done it before in other places.
00:29:48.060 So perhaps before they declare us a genocidal state,
00:29:51.780 send in a team and start doing some excavations
00:29:54.420 because when they did excavate in Edmonton,
00:29:56.940 they didn't find anything.
00:29:58.760 And so I think that leads me to believe
00:30:00.540 that that is perhaps why they're not excavating in British Columbia.
00:30:05.240 Well, you know, in all the time that I worked in the Glenbow
00:30:08.300 and all the archival material that I went through
00:30:10.900 and all the hundreds of pioneers that I talked to
00:30:14.940 and descendants of people who signed Treaty 7
00:30:18.780 and descendants of Colonel McLeod.
00:30:21.640 In all that time, I never saw or heard
00:30:24.760 of any missing persons report
00:30:27.980 about a child attending Indian residential schools.
00:30:31.900 And you would think with 150,000 students
00:30:35.020 over the course of 113 years,
00:30:37.740 if people were enrolling their children in the school,
00:30:41.320 which is what you had to do,
00:30:43.020 and then their child disappeared,
00:30:46.180 you'd think that they would write a report,
00:30:49.140 they would file a complaint,
00:30:50.560 that there would be documentation,
00:30:52.760 that since the child had been entered into the system,
00:30:56.860 that there would be either documents missing
00:30:59.880 about that child that would make you go,
00:31:01.940 aha, or there would be filed reports saying,
00:31:06.180 look, we took our child to this school
00:31:07.880 and they vanished on this date
00:31:09.660 and we haven't seen them since.
00:31:11.580 Open an inquiry.
00:31:13.080 I have never seen any documents like that.
00:31:16.160 So I, you know,
00:31:17.760 it would be extremely conspiratorial to think
00:31:20.540 that all of these schools
00:31:22.560 and all of these documents
00:31:24.060 and all of these children,
00:31:25.920 that somehow these kinds of things
00:31:28.240 were nefariously hidden
00:31:29.620 throughout this entire system.
00:31:32.060 And in fact, where is that book?
00:31:34.280 I'm just reading this.
00:31:37.480 Just reading this fabulous book
00:31:39.600 called Four Years and Then Some,
00:31:42.820 which is about this woman from Saskatchewan
00:31:45.540 who went to work up at Klavik.
00:31:47.640 And it's just a wonderful, heartwarming story.
00:31:50.660 Like the kids at her school loved her.
00:31:52.980 They adored her and she adored them.
00:31:54.800 You know, so when you read things like that,
00:31:59.020 you go, wait a minute.
00:32:01.720 Well, what's everybody talking about?
00:32:04.900 And I think if the liberals truly believed
00:32:07.640 that Canada was a genocidal state
00:32:10.240 for the government's role
00:32:12.360 in the residential schools,
00:32:14.340 someone might call the cops on Jean Chrétien
00:32:16.380 being the last Indian affairs minister
00:32:18.680 who signed off on the residential schools.
00:32:20.760 But nobody has.
00:32:21.760 If the left truly believed
00:32:23.900 that residential schools
00:32:25.120 were the result of the actions
00:32:26.720 of a genocidal state
00:32:28.160 and a genocide heir named Jean Chrétien,
00:32:30.820 go get him.
00:32:31.840 He's still alive.
00:32:32.960 But they don't.
00:32:34.020 Which leads me to believe
00:32:35.020 how unserious they are about this.
00:32:37.880 Yeah.
00:32:38.380 You know, the other thing
00:32:39.460 people have to realize
00:32:40.440 is that the potential
00:32:45.500 for a genocide judgment
00:32:49.240 against Canada
00:32:50.300 for the Indigenous people
00:32:52.860 who are part of the land back movement,
00:32:55.520 they see this as the lever
00:32:57.100 to literally get all the land back in Canada.
00:33:01.580 Now, there are some people who say,
00:33:03.040 no, no, we don't mean that.
00:33:04.360 We just mean that, you know,
00:33:05.980 we'll be sharing the land.
00:33:07.340 And it's kind of like,
00:33:08.620 well, that's what we're doing.
00:33:11.160 But, you know,
00:33:12.340 because where does the $60 billion
00:33:14.020 in compensation come from
00:33:15.980 if not from taxpayers
00:33:17.580 who are working on the land of Canada
00:33:20.080 and sharing that money
00:33:21.680 in terms of compensation?
00:33:24.120 So, you know,
00:33:27.400 I think that the outrage
00:33:30.200 that we've seen in downtown Winnipeg,
00:33:32.660 you know, there've been a number
00:33:33.480 of pretty rowdy demonstrations
00:33:36.440 with people chanting
00:33:39.840 no pride in genocide
00:33:41.100 and the Mohawk warriors have been there
00:33:44.040 and many people
00:33:45.740 maybe have forgotten
00:33:46.860 about what happened at Oka.
00:33:49.880 But most people probably remember
00:33:52.360 that there was shut down Canada
00:33:54.040 a couple of years ago
00:33:55.480 where Canada was shut down.
00:33:57.820 All the roads and rail infrastructure
00:33:59.700 were shut down for two months
00:34:01.220 by Indigenous activists
00:34:04.520 who were outraged
00:34:06.920 about residential schools
00:34:08.700 and the alleged genocide.
00:34:13.060 Well, if there's no genocide,
00:34:14.620 then there's no reason to do that.
00:34:16.500 And if our objective
00:34:17.620 is reconciliation,
00:34:20.920 then let's sit down
00:34:22.300 and reconcile.
00:34:22.860 Let's talk.
00:34:23.740 Before I let you go, Michelle,
00:34:28.840 and again,
00:34:29.380 thank you so much
00:34:30.000 for being so generous
00:34:31.080 with your time.
00:34:31.760 I want to give you
00:34:32.240 the opportunity to do two things.
00:34:34.080 You have an event coming up
00:34:35.880 and I want you to promote people.
00:34:39.920 I've been to your events.
00:34:40.920 They are wonderful.
00:34:42.020 The food's great.
00:34:44.440 It's, you know,
00:34:45.500 you'll find a room full
00:34:47.000 of like-minded people,
00:34:48.400 but also not like-minded people,
00:34:50.280 but people who want to engage
00:34:52.200 in civil discourse.
00:34:52.900 So there's no ideological homogeneity
00:34:56.420 happening there.
00:34:57.840 And please let us know
00:34:59.620 how people can support the work
00:35:01.260 that you do at Friends of Science
00:35:02.860 because I,
00:35:03.600 and I say it every time
00:35:04.380 you're on the show,
00:35:05.020 you are up against the deepest
00:35:06.820 of the deep green pockets
00:35:08.560 and the government,
00:35:11.720 the foreign-funded
00:35:13.240 environmentalist movement,
00:35:14.340 and you're just this little
00:35:15.560 juggernaut of truth.
00:35:16.760 So please tell us how
00:35:18.020 we can get involved
00:35:19.480 in supporting Friends of Science.
00:35:22.900 that's great.
00:35:41.060 Thank you.
00:36:08.300 Well, you can go to our website,
00:36:10.560 www.friendsofscience.org,
00:36:13.360 and right there you'll see
00:36:14.960 the announcement
00:36:15.540 for our upcoming event.
00:36:17.180 It's going to be on
00:36:18.440 October the 17th this year
00:36:20.480 at the Red and White Club
00:36:22.240 in Calgary.
00:36:23.760 It's a buffet dinner
00:36:25.620 and then our two speakers.
00:36:27.720 The name of the event
00:36:28.600 is Break Free
00:36:29.680 from Climate Tyranny,
00:36:31.900 Evidence Over Ideology.
00:36:34.360 Our two speakers
00:36:35.320 will be Robert Lyman,
00:36:36.420 who will be asking the question,
00:36:38.600 when will climate policy
00:36:40.020 hit the wall?
00:36:41.560 Robert was here in 2017,
00:36:43.480 and at that time
00:36:44.560 he asked the question,
00:36:45.800 can Canada survive
00:36:46.980 climate change policy?
00:36:48.600 At the time,
00:36:49.360 he thought we could.
00:36:50.660 Now he's not so sure.
00:36:52.880 Our second speaker
00:36:54.120 will be more on the science
00:36:55.520 and energy issues.
00:36:57.660 That will be Dr. Ian Clark,
00:36:59.720 Professor Emeritus
00:37:00.580 from the University of Ottawa,
00:37:02.380 and he'll be talking
00:37:03.860 on climate and net zero,
00:37:07.120 a reality check.
00:37:08.740 So it's really a great evening.
00:37:10.640 We have the buffet dinner,
00:37:12.160 people mingle,
00:37:13.160 there's a cash bar,
00:37:14.600 we have some tables with bling,
00:37:16.560 then we have our first speaker,
00:37:17.980 then we have a break,
00:37:19.000 cash bar,
00:37:19.820 bling,
00:37:20.680 mingle,
00:37:21.980 desserts,
00:37:22.500 coffee,
00:37:22.640 and then our second speaker,
00:37:24.800 and then we have Q&A at the end.
00:37:25.820 Michelle, thanks so much
00:37:26.180 for coming on the show,
00:37:26.980 and we'll talk very seriously
00:37:28.080 because it seems
00:37:29.020 as though you've come out
00:37:29.820 of the hope of hysteria
00:37:31.340 who will come back to the old hysteria,
00:37:33.080 which is the most important one.
00:37:33.160 And about half the people
00:37:34.260 who have come the past few years
00:37:36.060 are not members,
00:37:37.580 not interested in climate change per se,
00:37:40.000 but, you know,
00:37:41.020 they realize that all these policies
00:37:42.660 are really infringing on their...
00:37:50.960 Well, we've come to the portion
00:37:52.220 of the show
00:37:52.720 where I invite your viewer feedback
00:37:54.400 because without viewer feedback,
00:37:56.180 there really is no Rebel News
00:37:57.180 because if you don't like
00:37:59.820 what we're doing here,
00:38:00.700 you won't support us
00:38:02.180 and without your support,
00:38:04.240 we don't exist
00:38:05.020 because we'll never take a penny
00:38:06.080 from Justin Trudeau
00:38:07.100 or any level of government
00:38:08.560 because how could we ever
00:38:09.740 hold them to account
00:38:10.580 if we relied on them
00:38:12.160 to keep the lights on?
00:38:14.000 But because I invite
00:38:16.120 your viewer feedback,
00:38:17.200 I have to give you
00:38:18.180 my email address right now
00:38:19.400 at Sheila at RebelNews.com.
00:38:21.140 Put Gun Show Letters
00:38:22.160 in the subject line
00:38:22.940 so I know you're talking
00:38:23.720 about the show
00:38:24.580 and it's also becomes
00:38:27.460 easier for me to find.
00:38:28.800 But don't hesitate
00:38:29.480 to leave a comment
00:38:30.640 wherever you might be watching us.
00:38:32.540 For example,
00:38:32.920 if you're watching
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00:38:38.820 sort of towards the weekend.
00:38:40.480 So leave me a comment there.
00:38:42.280 Sometimes I go poking over there.
00:38:43.720 Um, but today
00:38:45.380 the letter comes
00:38:47.760 from the email
00:38:48.460 and it comes from
00:38:49.900 Eric in Saskatoon.
00:38:51.740 It says his wife
00:38:53.080 and he are huge fans
00:38:56.880 and longtime supporters.
00:38:58.200 Well, that's great.
00:38:59.080 Let's keep going.
00:39:00.300 I have a suggestion
00:39:01.020 for you,
00:39:01.780 Rhi, the gun show.
00:39:03.160 Have you reached out
00:39:04.260 to Tom McDonald
00:39:05.140 to invite him
00:39:06.180 to come on as a guest?
00:39:07.560 Yes, actually, I have.
00:39:09.300 And we had a connection
00:39:10.500 to Tom McDonald
00:39:11.580 through someone
00:39:14.780 who used to work for us
00:39:15.980 here at Rebel News,
00:39:17.500 Matt Brevner,
00:39:18.920 also a musician,
00:39:20.660 Canadian musician,
00:39:21.340 who we were lucky enough
00:39:23.300 to have working for us
00:39:24.940 as a very talented videographer.
00:39:27.600 But he was a Juno Award
00:39:29.960 nominated musician
00:39:32.000 and someone in the
00:39:33.500 freedom music space.
00:39:34.920 So he had a connection
00:39:36.060 with Tom McDonald.
00:39:37.380 However,
00:39:37.860 Tom McDonald
00:39:39.700 did not come on my show,
00:39:40.960 obviously.
00:39:42.760 But let's keep
00:39:44.020 you fill me in
00:39:45.700 about who Tom McDonald is.
00:39:47.020 And I already know,
00:39:48.060 but maybe the viewers don't.
00:39:49.020 So let's keep reading.
00:39:50.100 In addition to his amazing music,
00:39:51.540 which I'm sure you've heard about,
00:39:53.380 including his latest
00:39:54.240 masterpiece,
00:39:55.740 Your America,
00:39:56.800 I think there are so many things
00:39:58.080 you guys could talk about
00:39:59.500 to make it an amazing episode.
00:40:01.900 He's from your neck of the woods, 0.64
00:40:04.360 born and raised
00:40:05.280 in St. Albert and Edmonton.
00:40:06.900 That is true.
00:40:07.860 He has experience working
00:40:09.560 in the oil sands.
00:40:10.860 Also true.
00:40:11.780 And I know a little thing
00:40:13.560 or two about the oil
00:40:14.800 and gas industry.
00:40:16.120 And he was a pro wrestler.
00:40:17.780 And yes,
00:40:18.820 I do.
00:40:19.560 I do very much enjoy
00:40:20.840 pro wrestling.
00:40:21.760 I know he's pretty selective
00:40:24.420 with which media outlets
00:40:26.120 he does interviews with.
00:40:27.300 He's a natural skeptic
00:40:28.500 who can blame him.
00:40:29.780 I do know that he has been
00:40:31.040 on Ben Shapiro's
00:40:32.020 Daily Wire,
00:40:32.620 Newsmax,
00:40:33.200 and OAN.
00:40:34.740 With Rebel being the largest
00:40:36.020 independent news organization
00:40:37.320 in Canada,
00:40:38.140 his home,
00:40:38.640 I think your reach
00:40:39.400 might appeal to him.
00:40:40.680 Thanks for considering.
00:40:41.640 Keep up the great work.
00:40:42.700 Sincerely,
00:40:43.480 Eric.
00:40:44.700 AKA the first guy
00:40:46.700 wearing the Menzoid t-shirt.
00:40:48.320 Oh,
00:40:48.460 I know exactly who you are.
00:40:50.200 And I met you
00:40:50.960 in Regina
00:40:52.280 at an event we held there
00:40:53.740 after Patrick Moore
00:40:55.600 was canceled.
00:40:56.420 From a speaking talk there,
00:40:57.380 we re-platformed
00:40:58.380 Patrick Moore
00:40:59.520 so that
00:41:00.800 his voice could be heard.
00:41:02.820 And we did it
00:41:03.400 in the grandest
00:41:04.460 of fashion.
00:41:06.200 Yes,
00:41:06.640 I have reached out
00:41:07.160 to Tom McDonald
00:41:07.720 in the past,
00:41:08.540 but as you say,
00:41:09.520 he's a skeptic,
00:41:11.500 doesn't do a lot
00:41:12.460 of interviews,
00:41:13.720 and so he just
00:41:15.460 politely declined.
00:41:17.180 No hard feelings
00:41:17.820 or anything.
00:41:18.380 I understand why
00:41:19.040 he doesn't do
00:41:19.760 media interviews.
00:41:20.600 He really doesn't have to.
00:41:21.940 Right?
00:41:22.220 Like,
00:41:22.400 he's like Trump.
00:41:23.060 He just goes directly
00:41:23.900 to the people
00:41:24.500 with his YouTube channel
00:41:27.280 and his other platforms,
00:41:28.560 and he just speaks
00:41:29.200 to the people directly.
00:41:30.160 He doesn't need
00:41:30.620 to speak to them
00:41:31.320 through me.
00:41:32.220 Totally get it.
00:41:33.460 Totally get it,
00:41:34.160 and good for him.
00:41:35.240 So I hope that
00:41:36.280 answers your question.
00:41:37.120 I have re-showed to Tom.
00:41:38.320 I'm a fan of Tom.
00:41:40.140 We would have a lot
00:41:41.060 to talk about
00:41:41.600 given my particular
00:41:43.060 interests and background,
00:41:44.800 but he's just
00:41:45.980 doing his own thing,
00:41:47.620 and I admire that.
00:41:49.080 Well, friends,
00:41:49.640 that's the show
00:41:50.120 for tonight.
00:41:51.840 Thank you so much
00:41:52.380 for tuning in.
00:41:53.120 Thank you to my producers
00:41:54.720 behind the scenes
00:41:55.420 who put the show together
00:41:56.880 so that it's there
00:41:57.600 for you to watch
00:41:58.560 whenever you're
00:41:59.400 ready to watch it,
00:42:00.440 and thanks to all
00:42:01.380 the team in Toronto
00:42:02.740 and around the world
00:42:03.460 to make sure
00:42:04.340 the show is
00:42:05.220 published
00:42:06.060 for you to watch it
00:42:06.880 because that's the thing
00:42:07.920 we have to do around here.
00:42:09.360 I'll see everybody
00:42:09.980 back here
00:42:10.500 in the same time
00:42:11.200 in the same space
00:42:12.560 next week,
00:42:13.400 and as I always say
00:42:14.760 every single week,
00:42:15.720 don't let the government
00:42:16.380 tell you that you've
00:42:17.020 had too much to think.
00:42:17.880 and I'll see you in the same way.
00:42:18.880 I'll see you in the same way.
00:42:19.580 I'll see you in the same way.
00:42:20.480 I'll see you in the same way.
00:42:29.760 I'll see you in the same way.
00:42:30.780 I'll see you in the same way.
00:42:32.100 We'll be right back.