Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ The Liberals are trying to fill in the blanks for their gun 'buyback' program

00:00:00.000 The Liberals are trying to put some fine details to their latest gun confiscation program.

00:00:04.940 What does that mean for Canadian gun owners?

00:00:06.960 We ask the National Firearms Association today.

00:00:10.560 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gun Show.

00:00:30.680 We're going to be upfront with Canadians about how we're going to cost this program.

00:00:34.740 It is a program that does not have precedent.

00:00:37.500 It is a program that is national in scale.

00:00:40.060 And it is a program that will require good-faith partnerships within industry,

00:00:44.660 which is why we reached out to the CSAAA, but as well with law enforcement and with gun owners themselves.

00:00:50.280 And we're going to do this work in good faith with all of those folks.

00:00:53.100 Can you ballpark a figure, though, at this point?

00:00:55.240 Well, the budget, which was just introduced a few weeks back, does allocate about just shy of $30 million or $29 million

00:01:02.480 to create a platform, which we're going to use in conjunction with the CSAAA.

00:01:08.240 But then we're going to roll out the next phases of this program, which will put more of a focus on individual owners.

00:01:14.200 So right now, our primary focus is to work with industry and vendors and small businesses in the gun industry.

00:01:21.300 And this agreement is a significant milestone on that front.

00:01:25.240 Well, that is Canada's Public Safety Minister, Marco Mendicino, announcing some details for his gun buyback program,

00:01:33.600 which is not a gun buyback program at all.

00:01:35.880 It's a gun confiscation program.

00:01:37.520 He cannot buy from me or buy back from me that which was never his to begin with.

00:01:42.820 This all comes from the May 2020 Order in Council by the Liberals, which banned at the time 1,500 popular models of Canadian firearms.

00:01:54.820 That list has now grown to 2,000 models.

00:01:59.620 And the Liberals say that it's going to cost upwards of $30 million to confiscate the lawfully acquired,

00:02:06.440 lawfully owned property from millions of Canadians made criminals through no fault of their own. 0.98

00:02:13.380 Now, in the wake of that announcement, controversy exploded in the Canadian firearms community as an industry lobby group admitted that they would be participating in gathering up data for the Liberals to execute their gun confiscation program.

00:02:34.680 It is wild.

00:02:36.920 And joining me today is Rick Igersich of the National Firearms Association to help us navigate through this crazy, crazy past week in the Canadian firearms community.

00:02:50.860 There, it's just, it's a lot.

00:02:52.480 And I'm glad to have Rick on the show.

00:02:54.260 Take a listen.

00:02:54.700 Take a listen.

00:03:24.700 But here we are.

00:03:25.940 So tell us what's going on there.

00:03:27.700 What did the Liberals just announce?

00:03:29.400 Put it in layman's terms, because I'm not actually sure the Liberals know what they just announced.

00:03:34.940 Oh, thanks for having me on your show again, Sheila.

00:03:38.280 And I'm sure the Liberals, you know, they're, it's classic Liberal talk.

00:03:43.560 But basically, there's been a lot of stuff that's happened over the last few days.

00:03:48.460 Starting on April 26th, the Public Safety Minister, Marco Mendocino, made a statement that he's partnering with the CSA, which is the Canadian Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Association.

00:04:02.400 And basically, it has come to light that he has signed a contract with them for $707,000.

00:04:11.240 I think that was the latest.

00:04:12.600 I think that's the factual number.

00:04:14.440 There's been some numbers thrown around $727,000, $700,000.

00:04:17.960 But I believe the actual number is $707,000 for this buyback program in relation to the dealers.

00:04:29.020 Now, the CSAAA is the Canadian industry group that represents a few gun shops across Canada.

00:04:39.300 Definitely not all of them.

00:04:41.880 And they made this deal, unbeknownst to us, and from what I've heard, even some of their board members, with the government that's been, they've been in talks for a year and a half about what they're going to do and how they're going to do this.

00:04:58.660 Because I received a phone call about 12 hours before this happened from the president of the CSAAA, stating that there's going to be a big announcement the next day involving the government and the CSAAA.

00:05:12.040 So, I really didn't get into the details of it, and he really didn't want to.

00:05:17.400 So, I waited until the next morning, and Minister Mendocino made the announcement that they are partnering with them.

00:05:23.280 And by doing that, a gun organization is basically on the sides, on the side of the liberals with these firearm seizures.

00:05:36.660 And what they're going to do is, the way I understand it, is the CSAAA is going to go and contact every gun shop in Canada to see what sort of inventory they have in firearms and parts for those firearms.

00:05:49.500 And they're going to provide that list to the government for the government to use on this so-called buyback program, which I believe is probably, if there's going to be any buyback at all, it's going to be cents on the dollar.

00:06:05.360 Plus, it's basically what it's all doing is identifying all these firearms and parts that are in the hands of the dealers, which really brings into play a bunch of different issues.

00:06:18.040 The first issue is that there's a federal court case going on that we were a part of.

00:06:22.480 We financed the Cassie Premack federal court case against the government.

00:06:28.760 And along with, we were grouped in with a bunch of other groups.

00:06:32.940 And some of these other people that were involved in this court action are actually firearm shops owners.

00:06:42.040 So this kind of nullifies their court case, in my opinion, when the government is finding out what they have and offering money for them.

00:06:52.020 And meanwhile, there's an active court case, which is now in the judge's hands in deliberation, I believe is nullifying some of these cases.

00:07:00.620 And then secondly, I believe that by these people cooperating with the liberals, this is just going to fast track the actual gun seizures.

00:07:14.340 As far as I know, the government has nothing in place as far as the gun seizures go.

00:07:19.580 There's no announcement of money.

00:07:22.160 There's no plan on how they're going to do this.

00:07:27.060 But in my opinion, this really, really fast tracks the liberals' seizure plans because now they're claiming that the gun industry and the firearms owners are cooperating with them, which is a falsehood.

00:07:45.040 So this organization is cooperating, but firearms, I can assure you, firearms owners across Canada are not cooperating with the liberals on this deal.

00:07:54.920 So at the end of the day, Canada's National Firearms Association has cut all ties with the CSSA.

00:08:02.140 We will be more than happy to reunite and rejoin them if they go back on this deal and cancel the contract and cancel the $707,000 with the government.

00:08:14.120 We would be more than happy to work with them so we can all follow the same direction as far as these firearms seizures go.

00:08:23.620 Yeah, it sounds like a lot of gun rights organizations were completely caught flat-footed by what the CSAA has done.

00:08:35.340 And, you know, not to confuse them with the CSSA, but it sounds like the CCFR, the NFA, and the CSSA, the Canadian Shooting Sports Association, were all sort of blindsided by discovering that this industry lobby group that's supposed to lobby on behalf of the industry, serve as a counterbalance against what the government is trying to do.

00:08:58.980 So that they, for lack of a better term, lent their credibility to the government so that the government can say, look, we've got the gun people on board with our buyout. 0.63

00:09:09.960 That's what it looks like to me.

00:09:12.100 Wow.

00:09:14.380 Definitely the lobby groups weren't aware of what was going on.

00:09:18.580 They were aware of something, that there was something going on.

00:09:21.840 Like I say, I didn't get notified until 12 hours before.

00:09:24.080 I don't know when the other groups were notified, but their board wasn't aware of what was going on either.

00:09:31.360 I spoke to one of their board members and they had no idea about this $707,000 or this contract.

00:09:38.500 They knew, the board knew that, this is the information the board member gave me.

00:09:45.220 Their board members knew that there was something going on, but they had no idea of what the particulars were,

00:09:51.740 especially a contractor, especially this, this influx, influx of a 700, 700 and some thousand dollars.

00:09:59.840 You know, it, it hit the gun rates community, like a lead balloon.

00:10:04.360 Everybody was sort of just shocked because it came on the heels of the liberals announcing that.

00:10:10.280 I think it's roughly $30 million that they are considering spending on the gun buyback,

00:10:16.760 or at least that's what they're announcing.

00:10:17.900 It's going to cost.

00:10:18.900 I don't know if it's going to cost that much this year because it doesn't seem like they budgeted for it in the budget.

00:10:24.860 But that is what they anticipate the cost will be, which is absolute idiocy because they have no idea how many of the guns on the ban list are out there,

00:10:34.140 where they are, how many of them came into the country after the gun registry.

00:10:39.340 They have no idea how many of them weren't registered ever to begin with.

00:10:43.920 So they can't even get a best estimate, but they know exactly how much it's going to cost.

00:10:49.120 I always go back to the SKS because it's cheap.

00:10:51.480 It's, you know, it's a lot of entry level gun and there's a lot of them out there.

00:10:56.740 And, and the liberals don't know how many of them are out there, but they know how much it's going to cost around them all up.

00:11:01.360 Well, there's some stuff that's come to light on the SKS as of yesterday, but anyway, just like you mentioned,

00:11:08.080 the liberals don't know how many guns are out there and how much money they have to spend. 0.95

00:11:11.360 Well, you know, with this program, this contract with this partner, I guess what Mendocino called it, this partner's partnership.

00:11:19.020 They're going to, they're going to get a pretty comprehensive list, at least what's at the gun shops.

00:11:25.180 And I don't know if the gun shops are going to provide, I hope they don't provide a list of some of the firearms they sold and where they went.

00:11:33.260 You know, the, you know, by law, I don't think, I don't think that information, the government is entitled to that information that, you know,

00:11:42.720 and that could change because laws are changing every day. 0.93

00:11:45.120 But like I say, you know, this, this, hey, this, this basically turned the firearms rights upside down in the last few days.

00:11:55.800 I, you know, I, like you said, it, it was like being hit with a lead balloon.

00:11:59.380 It turned everything, it just blindsided us.

00:12:02.080 Yeah, it's terrible.

00:12:03.420 It is terrible.

00:12:04.440 And if I were a gun retailer and I'm not, but if I were, I would say, make me turn this information over.

00:12:11.100 Exactly.

00:12:11.640 You're not getting it until such time as you're going to make me turn it over.

00:12:15.940 Exactly.

00:12:16.420 And that's a, just to, just to add to that.

00:12:18.500 And that's a bunch of phone calls I've been getting the last few days from gun retailers that we're not interested in this.

00:12:23.480 We're not going to be involved in this.

00:12:24.980 And we're going to hold out to the end because like I say, there is active court cases going right now that are in deliberation.

00:12:30.840 Bad time to make this.

00:12:31.960 Well, this move shouldn't have ever been made, but it was really, really a bad time to make it.

00:12:36.100 No, you just hinted on something with the SKS.

00:12:38.140 Why don't you give us a little bit of details on that?

00:12:41.800 Okay.

00:12:42.120 I'll have to, I've got so much stuff here.

00:12:43.680 I'm going to have to refer to my notes, but yeah.

00:12:47.460 Yesterday, Marco Mendocino announced that there will be amendments to Bill C-21 again to prohibit more legally and commonly owned firearms.

00:13:00.260 And they're going to add a definition to an assault style firearm.

00:13:04.620 A couple of things.

00:13:08.600 First of all, there's going to be a firearms advisory committee created to help to determine the classification of these firearms.

00:13:18.800 Now, he mentioned all the groups that were going to be involved in this advisory committee.

00:13:25.080 And he mentioned, you know, government bureaucrats, politicians, and a bunch of anti-firearms groups.

00:13:33.920 But he didn't mention any pro-firearms groups, which I found a little amazing.

00:13:40.060 So they're going to create this.

00:13:41.260 Did you?

00:13:41.660 Were you in your line?

00:13:42.980 Well, not really.

00:13:43.880 You know what?

00:13:44.120 But anyway, yeah.

00:13:47.360 So anyway, to add to that.

00:13:50.180 So Mendocino wants the manufacturers, actually wants to give the manufacturers a set of guidelines on what firearms to produce for Canada.

00:13:57.480 Falling into these new, these new classifications, I guess is the right word for it.

00:14:07.360 The Ordering Council came up.

00:14:10.040 Now it's up to 2,000 firearms.

00:14:12.080 It started, as everybody knows, it started at 1,500.

00:14:15.760 It's a, he admitted yesterday that there's 2,000 firearms listed in the Ordering Council.

00:14:20.980 Uh, what he said was that, uh, that the list is, uh, with, with their studies and stuff, they, they've added a bunch of firearms to the list.

00:14:31.180 And now you brought up the SKS, which is really funny because he made the statement yesterday that he said, he said that the SKS, they're not going to ban the SKS.

00:14:42.640 Now, after speaking to, uh, after speaking of, this is a good one to be after speaking to, uh, hunters, sport shooters, indigenous groups, and everybody else across the country, they're going to, uh, they're going to leave the SKS out of, out of the, off the list, which I found really shocking because at the end of the day, the SKS is probably the only firearm that's available in Canada.

00:15:09.180 Well, one of the, one of the, one of the modern ones that were, that was actually built for, uh, as, uh, as a, as a military firearm.

00:15:15.960 Yeah.

00:15:16.420 It was literally built for war.

00:15:18.280 Um, but it's interesting that, um, the liberals said this thing was an assault, assault style firearm.

00:15:28.180 Like what?

00:15:29.440 72 hours ago.

00:15:32.020 And then all of a sudden they've just changed their mind.

00:15:34.380 It has magically changed into something else after discussions, which means that they really don't know what the hell they're doing.

00:15:41.080 Well, yeah, actually, you know what?

00:15:42.400 And the thing is, uh, you know, I, I get into this a little, uh, his statement yesterday.

00:15:49.120 He didn't, with talking about C21, he didn't use the term handgun freeze.

00:15:54.320 He was saying a handgun ban now.

00:15:57.160 Um, so I don't know what direction that's going in, but, uh, I'm sure, um, Mendocino is very, uh, well-versed in, in, uh, how he, how he puts the, the, the message out.

00:16:10.800 And I think that was a, that was a message.

00:16:12.500 Uh, and he made the statement that, uh, the liberals are moving in the direction of what most Canadians want.

00:16:25.260 And blame the conservatives for creating a national crisis over their last, uh, attempt to, uh, get rid of the amendments.

00:16:33.960 So he's, uh, he's definitely, uh, playing politics with this one.

00:16:37.620 There's no doubt about that.

00:16:39.220 And getting into, uh, getting into my next thing is, uh, the term, uh, the liberals are actually, and I mentioned this earlier, are putting a definition.

00:16:47.260 Definition, they're making up a definition for an assault style firearm to be, get this, enshrined in the criminal code.

00:16:55.860 So it's going to make these, uh, new, make it extremely difficult for future governments to reverse and revise their firearms definition in legislation.

00:17:04.860 That's a direct quote from Mendocino.

00:17:06.660 But going back to the definition, so a firearm that is not a handgun that discharges centerfire ammunition is a semi, in a semi-automatic manner and designed with a detachable magazine with a capacity of six or more cartridges.

00:17:26.180 So that puts a whole bunch of new firearms on the list because there's a lot of semi-automatic firearms out there that could take eight or 10 shot magazines.

00:17:37.340 Uh, that was, that was, uh, that was his, uh, statement.

00:17:42.400 Now they did release, they did release a government, uh, a government paper on that with, it's very vague and there's no real good definitions in them, but that's the direction we're going.

00:17:54.380 And, uh, like I say, this stuff has all happened within the last four days.

00:17:58.260 It just, it, it, it's unbelievable, Sheila.

00:18:00.980 Yeah, that captures so many hunting rifles and sports shooting firearms in this country.

00:18:08.200 I, I, I wish people who were not firearms owners were more keenly, uh, attuned to this because this is the government just deciding one day that you're lawfully acquired property.

00:18:23.640 They don't like it, so you can't have it.

00:18:26.340 And they get to talk to your political enemies about whether or not you get to keep it and you just have to sit there and take it.

00:18:32.840 And then once it's banned, they'll pay you a pittance, as you say, pennies on the dollar to confiscate it from you.

00:18:39.400 Um, thankfully, we've got places like Alberta where we have our own CFO saying the hell you will.

00:18:45.260 So, um, so, uh, you know, I, I feel good about living in Alberta.

00:18:51.240 Um, although we are approaching, uh, an election, it's election season here in Alberta.

00:18:55.880 I think Danielle Smith will do fine, not as good as she should, but fine.

00:19:00.540 But, um, you know, I really feel for the people of Ontario and Quebec where they, they don't have a provincial government that is standing up for the rights of lawful gun owners.

00:19:10.740 And, you know, we've been lobbying Doug Ford in Ontario too, because he, if he were to jump on board with this, you know, this was basically, uh, squash this whole thing.

00:19:19.660 But he just, uh, I don't know, there's a, there's a lot of federal money coming into Ontario right now.

00:19:25.320 And I think that's part of the problem.

00:19:26.580 I was in Calgary a couple of weeks ago at the Calgary gun show.

00:19:29.820 And I had a really good conversation with Terry Bryant, the Alberta CFO.

00:19:33.640 And, uh, you know, she is, uh, she is one of our soldiers on the front lines too.

00:19:38.160 You know, I just hope, I just hope the government does not change in Alberta because that is going to do a lot of damage to, uh, what, uh, what Terry Bryant has done and has accomplished.

00:19:47.740 I just, I just hope that, uh, that, uh, you know, it goes in our, that it goes our way.

00:19:53.280 Yeah.

00:19:53.720 You know, and it, it may seem like just an Alberta issue, but Alberta's really seems to be leading the way.

00:19:59.600 They're sticking their neck out first and saying, okay, well, this is what we're going to do.

00:20:03.600 And then the dominoes fall in Saskatchewan and then in other provinces and territories, they seem to be the ones who are willing to say, okay, well, we're going to do this first.

00:20:11.940 This is how we're going to do it.

00:20:13.120 If you want to come along, that's fine.

00:20:14.540 So if the government does change in Alberta, pray for us that it doesn't, um, you know, it will affect gun rights across the entire country because they really seem to be leading the charge fighting back against this at a provincial level.

00:20:28.340 Yeah.

00:20:28.840 And the fact that, uh, that, uh, people that are involved in the firearms industry are, uh, uh, jumping on board with the liberals doesn't make things, uh, any better.

00:20:38.000 It actually makes, it makes my job a lot harder.

00:20:40.040 You know, I just, I, I had some really good ties with CS AAA and I, you know, I regret, I regret cutting our ties, but you know, I have to, I have to represent firearms owners across Canada.

00:20:50.620 I can't, I can't be connected to, uh, an organization that works with the government, uh, you know, moving forward to, uh, these firearms camp, confiscations, uh, liberals were liberals world for a buyback as a conference or for a confiscation as a buyback.

00:21:05.200 But I, I, I will not, uh, our organization will not be, uh, involved with that.

00:21:09.880 We don't want any part of that.

00:21:11.340 Yeah.

00:21:11.860 It, it, it really is a shame because one of the key points of all the gun rights organizations and all the lobby groups is that we don't want to give our data to the government because giving the data to the government always leads to confiscation.

00:21:25.940 And then you have this industry lobby group that is taking a contract to round up the data, um, and then give it to the liberals.

00:21:35.240 And it, you know, it was just shocking to see.

00:21:38.060 Well, you know, I spoke, I spoke to them and, uh, and I said, you know, why are you doing this?

00:21:44.160 Well, you know, their, their reply was that we're helping the poor ma and pa gun shop owners across Canada with this, uh, with this payout.

00:21:53.600 So I said, is any of this, uh, $707,000 going towards the, towards the ma and pa gun shops?

00:22:00.500 Oh, absolutely not.

00:22:01.340 That just, that just, uh, cover our, uh, cover the logistics of, uh, of doing this survey.

00:22:06.700 I go, Oh, I said, so, uh, I, I, I travel across Canada and I go to a lot of gun shops, Sheila, and the smaller gun shops maybe have one or two of these rifles that have already been washed through their, uh, through their books three years ago.

00:22:22.660 Uh, they, the, they did not have any reply when I said, what about the future guns that, uh, that are illegal now that these people could possibly selling, be selling down the road and making money on.

00:22:36.520 And making their profits and making their businesses prosper.

00:22:39.700 What about that?

00:22:40.360 And there was no reply to that end of it.

00:22:42.440 There was just, uh, well, we're helping them out right now because they're in trouble, which I don't believe is the fact.

00:22:47.180 I believe there is some bigger gun shops in the country that happened.

00:22:51.120 They do have some of this stock, but at the end of the day, uh, I, I don't believe that this is going to make or break them.

00:22:58.760 I believe the fact that they're banning all these firearms in Canada is going to be the deal breaker for these gun shops because it's firearms.

00:23:05.940 People want, and they can't sell anymore.

00:23:07.780 And that, you know, and that, when you cut stock, you cut profits.

00:23:10.600 And at the end of the day, that's when, that's when businesses go down, not because of some, uh, uh, dormant or stale stock that they have in their, in their stock rooms right now.

00:23:21.540 Well, it's stranded assets is a real thing, but especially here in Alberta, we, we get oil and gas stranded assets all the time.

00:23:28.060 And thanks to the government.

00:23:28.760 Um, but you know, what's worse is that the list of stranded assets continues to grow in this case by 25%.

00:23:37.400 And it will continue to grow as long as you have, um, uh, for lack of a better term, yellow organizations like this organization selling up their membership. 0.97

00:23:46.940 You know, you help these mom and pop shops who don't have the resources to fight.

00:23:52.980 You help them fight.

00:23:54.840 That's what you do.

00:23:55.860 That's why we, we initially started fight the fines, um, which we handed off to the democracy fund.

00:24:01.680 When people were getting pandemic fines, we weren't going to pay their fines, but we would do whatever it took to fight like hell on their behalf.

00:24:08.920 Exactly.

00:24:09.400 Spending an enormous amount of money to fight an $800 fine.

00:24:12.420 But it was the point is that you never capitulate to the government because the government will always take more.

00:24:18.360 And, um, I don't know if you listened to Sirius XM, Andrew Wilkow, but he always says on the Patriot channel, but he always says when the government is handing you something with an open hand, the other hand is always a fist.

00:24:31.200 And that's what's happening here.

00:24:32.520 Um, so, you know, if the CS AAA thinks that they are going to somehow get ahead by, um, appeasing the crocodile, the crocodile will eat you.

00:24:45.320 He just might eat you last, but he will get around to eating you.

00:24:47.900 And that's, what's going to happen here.

00:24:50.180 Yeah.

00:24:50.680 You know, and, and I'll, I'll say again, there's a way around this, you know, they could, they could cancel this contract and give the money back.

00:24:57.620 And, uh, we will be more than happy to, uh, join up with them again and, and help them, uh, fight, fight for gun rights and property rights in Canada.

00:25:05.960 You know, that's that, that it's a very simple solution.

00:25:08.980 I don't know if it's going to happen or not, but, uh, the direction we're moving in right now is not doing the firearms lobby or firearms owners across Canada any good at all.

00:25:17.780 Yeah.

00:25:18.220 This is exactly what the liberals want.

00:25:20.020 I would love to hear that the CS AAA canceled this contract, listen to the feedback from the gun community and said,

00:25:25.700 Whoa, we made a big mistake.

00:25:28.360 Um, we're not going to do this and we're going to get back into the fight, uh, because this list of banned firearms just keeps growing and it's never going to stop.

00:25:35.720 If they said that I'd be their biggest fan.

00:25:37.880 There's nothing.

00:25:38.380 And so would I, I would, I would be, I would be, I would be at their door in a few hours and say, Hey, let's, let's, uh, let's join again and let's fight this fight.

00:25:46.440 But, uh, you know, I hope that's what happens.

00:25:49.500 Like I say, it was regrettable that we had to cut our ties, but, uh, we had to, it just, we could, we can't be associated.

00:25:55.700 With, uh, with, uh, organization like that, that works, uh, that's working against, uh, what we believe in.

00:26:01.500 Yeah.

00:26:01.960 You know, I will say something about, uh, conservatives or at least people on the right side of the political spectrum.

00:26:07.480 We do believe in redemption.

00:26:08.780 If you screw up and you're sincere about it and you change your ways, um, we're your biggest fans.

00:26:15.540 Absolutely.

00:26:16.440 But I'm not seeing that quite yet.

00:26:18.260 So if the CS AAA is listening, this is from me directly to you reverse this, um, get back in the, in the fight, um, because the liberals are only going to use this to further divide the gun, uh, community.

00:26:31.360 And they are going to use this as justification to do more.

00:26:35.020 So please cancel this contract and come back to your sanity.

00:26:41.720 I agree.

00:26:42.940 Now, Rick, you folks at the NFA, you have your AGM fast approaching.

00:26:48.320 If I can get there, I will.

00:26:49.660 I'm not sure if I can with my travel schedule, I've got other things to work on, but, um, tell us about the AGM.

00:26:54.500 Um, that's coming up very, very quick for you guys.

00:26:57.940 Yeah, it's actually this weekend in Montreal.

00:27:00.040 Uh, the Saturday's the, the, the day for the public where they're a few days earlier, uh, having meetings.

00:27:05.520 It's going to be, uh, it's going to be a good AGM.

00:27:07.880 It's in Quebec.

00:27:08.500 And, uh, uh, I've noticed the trend in Quebec over the last few months, a lot of Quebecers have been jumping on board with the NFA.

00:27:15.780 Uh, we've got, uh, Guy Moran speaking, which is, he's a well-known, well-known person in Quebec.

00:27:21.600 He's a pro rights, pro firearms guy.

00:27:25.020 He's speaking.

00:27:25.980 Uh, we're going to, we're going to have a few other speakers.

00:27:28.080 We're going to have some of our people, uh, uh, talking about what's going on in the firearms world.

00:27:33.160 Uh, you know, we're going to be, uh, we're going to be, uh, giving some firearms away.

00:27:36.720 It's going to be, it's going to be a good day.

00:27:38.280 Uh, you know, if, uh, and, uh, the NFA realized that times are tough for a lot of Canadians right now.

00:27:44.180 So we waived our, uh, we waived our admittance.

00:27:46.640 So as long as you pre-register by, uh, email, you're welcome to attend and we will accommodate

00:27:53.340 you.

00:27:54.140 Uh, it's filling up, it's filling up quick.

00:27:57.180 I think it's almost, it's getting really full right now, but, uh, you know, you know, the

00:28:00.740 NFA understands what's going on out there.

00:28:03.140 You know, we realized that, uh, we realized that, uh, the last few years have been tough

00:28:08.880 for a lot of Canadians and, uh, especially firearms owners, you know, with all this stuff

00:28:13.080 going on, the liberals are, you know, they're, they're stepping on the gas with, uh, with

00:28:16.660 all their legislation and, you know, they should be focusing on something else besides us, but

00:28:21.340 we, you know, we're their go-to every time, but, uh, yeah.

00:28:24.180 So if you can come and attend, uh, we'd appreciate you being there.

00:28:27.920 It's going to be a lot of fun.

00:28:29.220 Uh, you know, we'll, uh, I, I, I want to get out to, and I want to talk to all our members.

00:28:34.360 Uh, I want to speak to, to you guys one-on-one and, uh, you know, let you know what's going

00:28:39.280 on and what we're doing in the, in the firearms world.

00:28:41.700 Like I say, uh, you know, we've got an active court case right now.

00:28:44.140 I'm going to touch on that.

00:28:45.480 And, uh, like I say, uh, it's going to be a great time.

00:28:48.220 So if, if you can come on out, it's in Montreal, uh, the information's online.

00:28:52.900 If you want, if you want, if you want to, if you want to register, uh, hopefully, uh, you

00:28:56.860 can attend Sheila and, um, maybe we'll even get you up on, uh, the stage and you can talk

00:29:01.540 about some, uh, about some freedoms, uh, that the Canadians are being deprived of right

00:29:06.620 now.

00:29:07.780 I will do my very best.

00:29:09.660 Now, Rick, how do people get involved in the NFA?

00:29:12.560 Because as, uh, as people can see, you are firmly committed to the battle for firearms

00:29:17.760 rights and, uh, you won't let anybody sell out the movement.

00:29:21.940 So how do people get involved in the NFA and support the work that you're doing?

00:29:25.440 Because you're doing important work behind the scenes, including legal challenges.

00:29:28.980 Yeah.

00:29:29.520 You know, and like, like you say, Sheila, we're dug in deep and we're not giving up.

00:29:32.960 We're giving 110, 110% every day, uh, you know, with, with, with all this new stuff coming

00:29:37.820 up, uh, we're, we're on it right away.

00:29:39.660 What you can do is, uh, you can, uh, visit us on NFA.ca, buy a membership, uh, membership

00:29:45.900 for, uh, for, uh, an adult is $35, uh, 30 for a senior.

00:29:50.560 We also offer insurance, uh, that covers you in all your sporting, uh, activities.

00:29:55.120 Uh, you should, or call us, call us at the office.

00:29:58.860 Uh, you can do it by email.

00:30:00.300 There's several ways to join.

00:30:01.320 Like I say, visit us on NFA.ca and, uh, and join, become a member.

00:30:05.860 Your money goes towards the good fight and, uh, and the fight for freedom and the fight

00:30:10.660 for, uh, the firearms rights in Canada.

00:30:13.380 So please join.

00:30:15.600 And you've got a great merch store.

00:30:17.500 I'm a sucker for a good t-shirt and you guys have some great ones.

00:30:21.940 Well, you know what you show up with the, at the AGM, maybe we can hook you.

00:30:25.120 You can hook me up with a couple.

00:30:26.440 That's, that's excellent.

00:30:28.580 Yeah.

00:30:29.600 Well, Rick, thanks so much for coming on the show.

00:30:31.540 Thanks so much for the hard work that you do for law-abiding gun owners like myself and

00:30:36.020 my family and my kids and, and just normal people out there.

00:30:39.020 This is a very mainstream fight, no matter what the liberals try to paint it as they try

00:30:43.900 to paint the firearms owning community as fringe, but we're as many of us as play hockey

00:30:49.300 in this country.

00:30:50.360 Um, and thanks so much for sticking up for us.

00:30:52.520 Good luck at your AGM.

00:30:53.520 Maybe I'll see you there.

00:30:54.360 Uh, but we'll have you back on the show very, very soon.

00:30:57.600 Thanks, Sheila.

00:30:58.220 Thanks for having me again.

00:30:59.220 And, uh, thanks for spreading the good word across Canada.

00:31:02.180 You got it.

00:31:02.660 Well, friends, we've come to the portion of the show where I invite your viewer feedback

00:31:13.680 because without you, there is no rebel news.

00:31:16.160 If you don't like what we're doing and if you don't want to support it, we just wither

00:31:19.860 on the vine and die because we'll never take a penny from Justin Trudeau, unlike the mainstream

00:31:24.500 media who so rightly deserve to wither and die, but they never will get the market correction

00:31:30.560 that they deserve because they have the government propping them up because they're saying exactly

00:31:35.900 what the government wants them to say.

00:31:37.260 All that is to say, here's my email.

00:31:40.040 If you want to send me a comment or a question or a story idea or feedback on one of the interviews

00:31:45.660 that I've done, it's Sheila at rebelnews.com.

00:31:48.640 Put gun show letters in the subject line or do not hesitate to leave a comment on one of the platforms

00:31:56.940 where you're watching us, even if it is on the censorship platform of YouTube.

00:32:01.860 But I kind of prefer rumble.

00:32:04.140 So if I'm looking for comments, I'll go looking on rumble first.

00:32:08.460 So today's letter comes from Calvin.

00:32:12.620 We don't need to say Calvin's last name and it's on my gun reporting.

00:32:17.480 Great.

00:32:18.960 Interesting that this is the letter that I chose for today completely at random.

00:32:24.420 So Calvin writes, hey, Sheila, thanks for the good coverage of what's going on with

00:32:28.340 challenging the gun laws from Trudeau.

00:32:30.020 It would be nice to hear commentary from some of the applicants as well, not just the CCFR.

00:32:36.080 So this is on a show I did a couple of weeks ago with Tracy Wilson from the Canadian Coalition

00:32:42.040 for Firearms Rights.

00:32:42.980 And she was updating us on their court challenge of the OIC.

00:32:48.680 So that's the order in council that banned 1500 popular models of Canadian firearms, which

00:32:55.080 has now ballooned to 2000 models.

00:32:58.140 And Rick was just talking about that.

00:33:00.760 Isn't that interesting?

00:33:02.400 In your last story, it was said that there are six separate applicants total fighting the

00:33:07.100 OIC.

00:33:07.780 I know that the NFA is one of them.

00:33:09.780 Well, you just heard from Rick, didn't you?

00:33:11.660 And other independent groups not associated with the lobby group.

00:33:14.540 It would be nice to hear their perspective too.

00:33:16.400 I have all the time in the world for Rick Igersich.

00:33:20.540 He works very hard to stick up for people like me because we're too busy doing other things.

00:33:27.400 And I think his organization is so vital, but so are the other organizations.

00:33:32.260 If you care about property rights, get involved with a gun rights organization. 0.91

00:33:38.080 They are really ground zero for this kind of thing.

00:33:41.600 I'd still love to see some reporting about the war against raw dairy.

00:33:46.620 You know what?

00:33:47.060 Thank you.

00:33:47.460 Thank you for the reminder.

00:33:49.620 I do mean to get around to reporting on the war against raw dairy.

00:33:54.160 It's so ironic that a government that has decriminalized heroin, meth, cocaine, crack are still against you

00:34:07.800 buying raw dairy from whomever wants to sell it to you.

00:34:11.920 Not just the dairy cartel.

00:34:13.740 It's wild.

00:34:16.940 These absolutely insane government regulations that raw dairy is somehow worse for you than

00:34:22.560 meth.

00:34:23.940 Anyway, thanks for the reminder, Calvin.

00:34:25.940 And thanks for writing in.

00:34:27.500 And thanks for caring so deeply about firearms rights in this country.

00:34:31.260 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:34:32.760 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:34:34.060 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.

00:34:37.020 And as always, remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

00:34:52.560 I'll see everybody back here in the same time.

Rebel News Podcast - May 04, 2023

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ The Liberals are trying to fill in the blanks for their gun 'buyback' program

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