Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Toronto Sportsmen show hints at hope for the firearms community

00:00:00.000 Are Canadians losing faith in our national sport? By that I mean sports shooting.

00:00:05.720 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:00:08.020 I'm going to dump a little factoid on you right now that if you get all your news from the

00:00:30.140 mainstream media or from the government well you probably wouldn't know and if you're watching

00:00:34.780 The Gunn Show I'm guessing that you're not one of those people but did you know that more Canadians

00:00:40.380 are involved in the shooting sports so target shooting hunting then are involved in organized

00:00:47.900 hockey. Doesn't that make the shooting sports by the numbers Canada's national sport I would say so

00:00:57.820 and yet it is the sport that is under attack by the federal government. Sports shooters are being

00:01:05.820 scapegoated by Justin Trudeau for his own failures and for the failures of progressive mayors

00:01:12.460 in Canada's big cities. Sports shooters like me are always under attack by the federal government well

00:01:19.620 almost always we get a little bit of reprieve when there's a conservative government in town but for

00:01:25.520 the last eight plus years it has been a non-stop onslaught a complete and total attack on gun rights

00:01:33.680 which are really just good old-fashioned property rights but are sports shooters like me losing faith

00:01:40.900 losing hope in our sport well based on the turnout at one of Canada's largest outdoor shows the Toronto

00:01:49.320 sportsman show I don't think so I think sports shooters are optimistic and they're hopeful looking

00:01:57.240 at Justin Trudeau's results in the latest opinion polls so joining me today to talk about well the

00:02:03.640 Toronto sportsman show and what's coming down the pipe at Canadian gun owners is my friend Tracy Wilson

00:02:10.520 from the ccfr so joining me now is my friend Tracy Wilson from the Canadian coalition for firearms rights

00:02:16.920 Tracy you are fresh off the Toronto sportsman show literally just home you know hours ago

00:02:24.680 what was it like I know you guys are always the busiest booth at any sportsman show I think it's probably

00:02:31.400 exactly true for Toronto let us know how it went I have to say I'm a little hoarse okay I've been talking and

00:02:37.720 talking and talking for days but I have to say that for me personally it sort of speaks to the

00:02:45.480 perseverance of the outdoor community whether it's hunters fisher people especially gun owners who have

00:02:51.800 been under attack from this liberal government for almost nine years now it speaks to their

00:02:57.400 perseverance because the show has never been busier it was bigger than ever it was five halls long it was

00:03:03.480 just I spoke to other retailers and distributors and companies that were there at the at the show

00:03:10.200 and they were in the same boat they were just absolutely swamped it was a sea of shoulders for hours on end

00:03:17.720 it was absolutely beautiful so really good to get out and speak to people in person so what why do you think

00:03:23.960 that is I know nothing sends me skipping off to the gun store like the threat of a gun ban

00:03:28.520 that's just me um but it is it you know that there's people are attending the shows and buying

00:03:36.840 guns in an act of defiance or are they hopeful because they're seeing Trudeau plummeting in the

00:03:42.920 polls and you know they they know that there's going to be a change in government and Pierre

00:03:47.960 Polyev has said that he will roll back all these uh Trudeau gun grabs and you know that his latest gun

00:03:54.920 control measures so is it one the other probably a mixture of both well probably a little bit of

00:04:00.520 both for sure but I think column b the uh the the feeling of hope um was the message of the weekend

00:04:07.960 by far people coming by the booth were saying you know I think there's light at the end of the tunnel

00:04:13.240 you know changes on the way um even law enforcement we had a lot of law enforcement come by the booth

00:04:19.400 um the police are big supporters of the CCFR and of course they for obvious reasons also want a safer

00:04:26.120 country and you know I think um you know just seeing that there is an opportunity for a government with

00:04:32.760 a proper focus on reducing crime violence and gun smuggling rather than reducing hunting and sports

00:04:38.280 shooting um I think in general everybody just had this you know resounding feeling of hope and

00:04:45.320 uh light at the end of the tunnel for all of us really yeah you know you make a really good point

00:04:51.240 we all have police officers that we know some of us like me even have police officers that they know

00:04:56.040 and love that are in their family and they are sports shooters just like us they've got better things

00:05:01.080 to do than at the behest of Trudeau kicking the doors of their neighbors um they want to be arresting

00:05:08.040 the bad guys and keeping the bad guys in jail and it's never been easier to be a bad guy in this

00:05:13.400 country it's never been easier to get bail in this country unless you've done some inconvenient

00:05:18.120 horn honking um you know they they don't want to waste their time hassling you know gun toting dog

00:05:24.760 loving grandmas like you yeah well that's it there's a reason why you know with all these liberal gun 0.99

00:05:30.840 bans and everything else and talking threats of kicking in our doors with some sort of confiscation

00:05:35.880 program there's a reason it hasn't happened yet and that's because nobody will do it it's impossible to

00:05:40.200 do nobody wants to do it it would be ridiculous and offensive and a big waste of time and resources

00:05:47.720 so nobody's going to do it it's not going to happen and uh yeah this guy's on his way out so

00:05:53.320 yeah it was just a really uplifting feeling of hope through all five halls um and the you know tens of

00:06:00.920 thousands of people who attended yeah and as you say the police want a safer country you and i want

00:06:07.640 a safer country but that's not what lies before us i mean we we're seeing gang violence break out in

00:06:14.200 the big cities all across the country and then we have the toronto police telling us you know just put

00:06:19.480 your keys by the door maybe take your tv off the wall put it outside attacked in your home leave your

00:06:25.880 fobs at your front door because they're breaking into your home to steal your car they don't want

00:06:30.040 anything else a lot of them that they're arresting have guns on them and they're not toy guns they're real

00:06:34.920 guns they're loaded put on the snow tires for the car for the uh criminals so that they don't spin out 1.00

00:06:42.680 and have an accident while they steal your car um it's just this bizarre focus on the wrong people

00:06:49.880 while the society around us disintegrates yeah well here's the thing if you've got gun toting repeat

00:06:57.160 violent offenders coming to kick your door in to steal your car if the car was all they wanted

00:07:03.640 wanted they wouldn't have guns they've got guns because they're there to hurt you if you try and

00:07:09.000 stop them so for the police it almost um feels like they've given up you know and uh that in itself

00:07:16.920 is pretty frustrating i know tps did put out some sort of clarifying statement on that but it doesn't

00:07:22.760 erase what you said like leave your consider leaving your fob by the front door so they can just very easily

00:07:29.560 um steal your car without disturbing you or putting yourself at risk and i thought

00:07:35.960 what what a clown show like what an absolute upside down world this country has become

00:07:43.560 yeah i saw that the tps put out a statement saying like well that's not necessarily the advice that we

00:07:48.520 would give you but that is the advice that you gave and that's the guy you send to the community town

00:07:53.640 halls that's the guy so he this is this is what he does for a living this is the advice that he's

00:07:59.240 giving for a living on behalf of the toronto police service i think the toronto police service

00:08:03.640 were kind of caught flat-footed because everybody started making fun of them not just here in canada

00:08:09.320 but the international media sort of lit up the toronto police service and yes i i think the

00:08:16.600 the toronto police service they've got a tough job because they are trying to catch these repeat

00:08:22.200 offenders who go before a judge or justice of the peace which is not necessarily even a lawyer

00:08:27.880 and they're often out on the very same day for violent offenses yeah yeah well they do have an

00:08:34.920 incredibly tough job because i've seen many uh accounts of that from law enforcement where they

00:08:40.280 say you know they're doing the hard work they're catching the bad guys and they're back out on the same

00:08:45.080 day re-offending over and over and over again and i get it you know um you know if you had to

00:08:51.160 choose between having your car stolen or having your car stolen and getting shot yeah i but those

00:08:57.560 shouldn't be the two choices right so yeah it's right it is a tough spot for law enforcement and i think

00:09:03.560 of course you get a completely different conversation out of brass than you do out of the front line

00:09:09.320 officers but yeah we have overwhelming support at these shows from law enforcement they come and take

00:09:15.640 selfies and yeah there it's yeah it's a tough spot i think for all canadians to be in with this

00:09:21.800 government yeah the cops in my life are big ccfr fans big tracy wilson fans for sure um and you know

00:09:29.480 it even varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction for now like for example i look at things through an

00:09:35.000 alberta world view and last week instead of saying put your keys by the door so the bad guys don't

00:09:41.320 disturb your good night's sleep in alberta we said actually if the judges are letting you out on bail

00:09:46.920 we're going to put an ankle monitor on you and we're going to expand our sheriff's duties to make

00:09:51.320 sure that they're chasing the bad guys so that the other cops can keep you safe and so it's just

00:09:57.400 strange the cultural differences between like toronto versus calgary in some instances yeah alberta's

00:10:05.960 done a great job actually they're intervening on our appeal um in the federal court against the gun

00:10:11.000 ban i actually had a great meeting with the minister of justice here in ottawa at their

00:10:15.560 ottawa accountability office i like to call it the alberta embassy um but they said that's not what

00:10:21.560 it's called but that's what i'm calling it going forward but yeah i think um yeah alberta has a

00:10:26.920 completely different understanding of freedom than the rest of the country so yeah god bless alberta no i

00:10:32.360 want yes exactly uh may we spread our uh sense of freedom to the rest of this country and i think

00:10:40.760 we kind of are you know we're emboldening uh some of the other premiers to stand up and and get

00:10:46.440 involved now i want to ask you speaking of standing up and getting involved what's next for the ccfr what

00:10:51.880 are you guys working on right now well as you know c21 received royal assent and of course that

00:10:57.080 enshrined the handgun freeze which is just a prolonged ban in legislation making it not not

00:11:04.760 impossible but complex to overturn um so you know our focus has been on some messaging around that

00:11:11.160 and of course the most important thing we need right now is a new government um so there will be

00:11:15.720 an election at some point you know we're 19 years at the max or 19 months at the maximum 19 years oh my

00:11:22.920 lord it feels like that it does feel like that sometimes yeah but it could happen anything anytime

00:11:29.640 between now and october of 25 um so there's a lot of work that's got to go into getting election ready

00:11:35.960 and ensuring that we get a government in there who will hurt us less and instead focus on public safety

00:11:42.120 so we are hyper focused on that at the same time really working on growing and organizing our volunteer

00:11:49.560 program we've got hundreds of volunteers all across the country working gun shows and all kinds

00:11:54.520 of other events and we really want to mobilize them to help with election prep and election readiness

00:12:01.720 so we're working on that we've got a secret project that i literally can't even tell you about

00:12:06.840 but we will come back after the next federal election and talk about it and then say oh i see all

00:12:12.120 that stuff that happened that was us and you'll be totally shocked it's got nothing to do with guns but

00:12:16.920 it's got everything to do with influencing an election um and yeah national range day is on

00:12:23.480 the horizon the first saturday in june every year is national range day so that's june 1st this year

00:12:29.160 that's a day where ranges and gun clubs across the country open their doors to the public and invite

00:12:34.840 people who maybe otherwise wouldn't have the opportunity to try the shooting sports to come on in

00:12:40.680 learn a little bit grow a little bit of acceptance a lot of people's opinions about gun and gun ownership

00:12:47.560 come from media liberals hollywood you know it's not realistic to the canadian gun gun culture so yeah

00:12:56.200 it's a great opportunity i'm hosting a massive event here in ottawa we see about six to eight

00:13:01.000 hundred people come through the gates of the range which is really exciting and tons of activities for

00:13:06.200 the kids and cotton candy and bouncy castles and all the things that ottawa hates um so yeah that's a

00:13:13.800 really big priority and of course the ccfr agm is coming up in may and we're coming alberta so i will

00:13:21.160 see you then oh you better believe you'll see me then uh yeah now i want to ask you uh how did people

00:13:29.720 specifically get involved with the ccfr because i see online and i don't mean this to disparage the

00:13:38.120 people who are saying this but they're complaining that hey i was at my local gun show and i expected

00:13:43.400 to see the ccfr booth but they didn't have one there first of all tell us why they don't have

00:13:49.160 one there and how we can fix that yeah so when you see a ccfr ccfr booth at a gun show or a sportsman

00:13:57.080 show um you know even a small show in the basement of a church it's literally run by volunteers so like

00:14:03.080 i said we've got about 300 volunteers across the country but there are shows every single weekend in

00:14:08.680 every single town and city across the country it is virtually impossible to be at every single one

00:14:14.760 but we could be at more if we had more help so um the volunteer group the field officers of the ccfr are

00:14:21.480 a great group they become lifelong friends they do all kinds of stuff together and you can be a part of

00:14:26.440 that team by sending an email to volunteer at ccfr.ca there's some a vetting process obviously and then

00:14:35.240 we'll set you up with all the resources you need to go out and get tables at gun shows you get

00:14:40.360 business cards you get banners tablecloths all the stuff you need so yeah and of course it's just

00:14:46.920 great to take that extra step over over and above just getting a membership and truly getting involved

00:14:52.360 and then of course rod and i do our best to get around and come to some of these shows i will be

00:14:57.560 at the calgary easter gun show at the end of the month so i hope to see you there so make sure you

00:15:02.760 come out to that and uh yeah so volunteering is the very best way um to get involved we've recently

00:15:09.800 hired a new staff member who's going to be working at better helping organize the volunteers so that's

00:15:16.120 not a big workload on them and they could get to just show up and have fun at the gun shows

00:15:21.160 and make no mistake it is a lot of fun and uh yeah it's just a great time to get out in the community

00:15:27.240 and recruit more members yeah like unlike the other side of the gun rights debate you don't

00:15:35.160 get any funding from the government to do the work that you do and i don't think you would take it

00:15:38.920 anyway i would but you know the other the other side of this is very well funded they've got all

00:15:44.040 kinds of well they're not volunteers they're paid staff you don't have a lot of that you rely on people

00:15:48.840 who care deeply about this to give their time so friends out there if you're like why isn't the

00:15:53.240 ccr at my gun show you could be the ccfr at the gun show if you just stepped up and and filled the

00:16:01.080 void and solve the problem yourself as conservatives tend to do now i want to talk about something that's

00:16:07.160 in the news right now um and it didn't get a lot of play in the canadian media and i think i know why

00:16:15.000 new zealand it could potentially be rolling back a lot of their comprehensive gun control legislation

00:16:22.840 because they have a new right of center government and the three parties that form this coalition

00:16:27.080 government one of them very specifically campaign on uh easing some of their gun control legislation

00:16:34.600 that was drafted in 2019 over the course of six days uh tell us a little bit about that yeah so you'll

00:16:43.000 remember excuse me i am so hoarse uh former prime minister um of new zealand jacinda ardern she just

00:16:52.760 you know she's held up as sort of the gold standard of gun control of course um they had a tragic mass

00:16:58.440 shooting in her country and she took that opportunity to ban basically all semi-autos there's some

00:17:05.720 argument about how successful the gun grab was of course i think there was 50 000 rifles that were

00:17:11.800 turned in 56 000 yeah 56 000 however there's you know some quotes that there are hundreds of thousands

00:17:19.080 that were not so you know these things are never as successful as they like to promote them as being

00:17:24.760 but the more important factor here is you've had five years since that happened to look at the stats on

00:17:33.160 what's happening is it making new zealand a safer place is crime and violence and in particular gun violence

00:17:39.880 is it going down and unfortunately it's not it's going up so you know it's not like any experts or

00:17:45.800 or anybody could have uh could have forewarned about this result but the results are in and

00:17:51.000 they speak for themselves and it's been a massive failure so you know instead of punishing your law

00:17:56.040 abiding citizens again in that country they are now looking at going after repeat violent defenders

00:18:02.040 and leaving hunters and sport shooters alone so yeah i think you know i remember back when that

00:18:07.960 happened justin trudeau just looked at her with stars in his eyes about all the wild things she was

00:18:13.320 doing to the firearms community in new zealand and i think he's taken some lessons but um i i would

00:18:19.720 expect his career will go right in the same place hers is which is the dumpster from your lips to god's ears

00:18:26.360 tracy i remember at the time people were saying um look how quickly they were able to do this in new

00:18:32.360 zealand and i'm hearing look how quickly they were able to scapegoat the innocent and stomp all over

00:18:38.040 the law abiding look how quickly they were able to do it they they wrote their legislation in six days

00:18:43.320 and then quickly started enacting it and the op-eds in canada in the toronto star and other cbc was like

00:18:52.360 if they can do it in new zealand why can't we do it here well they didn't do it in new zealand and

00:18:57.560 thank goodness we didn't do it here although we did i'm going to say about 50 percent of it here

00:19:02.840 as much as justin trudeau thought he could get away with yeah i mean you know um the the gun grab here

00:19:09.800 in canada from may of 2020 the one that we're currently fighting in court you know that banned

00:19:14.840 somewhere around half a million rifles um from canadians who've legally and lawfully owned them

00:19:21.080 safely and without issue for decades if not generations and there's no solid evidence that

00:19:28.040 this would have any positive impact on public safety and now um you know we've got um almost

00:19:34.360 nine years of the trudeau regime and all their attacks on gun owners and look at the rates of

00:19:39.480 violent crime in this country the same stories being told in new zealand um with pretty much the

00:19:44.840 same results so yeah i think the tides are definitely shifting and that adds to that

00:19:50.120 positive atmosphere of hope that we saw all weekend at the toronto sportsman show

00:19:55.400 well and it just honestly it the actions of the liberals actually say something else you know like

00:20:02.520 they were saying at the time these guns are so dangerous we have to get them out of the hands of

00:20:06.360 canadians yeah law-abiding canadians at that and then they left them with us for five years yeah so

00:20:12.920 they really can't be all that dangerous yeah gotten so dangerous that you're forced to keep them for

00:20:18.440 five and a half years you know you've got people who maybe um you know would choose to get out of the

00:20:24.040 sport or maybe they've had an injury and can't shoot anymore they don't even have an option to get

00:20:28.280 rid of them like you're forced to keep them so yeah it's just just total crazy town i mean if um if uh legal

00:20:35.960 gun owners in canada were a problem you'd know it but all of those ar-15s and all the other guns

00:20:42.360 that were banned are still exactly where they were before locked safely away in the gun rooms and safes

00:20:48.920 of law-abiding canadians who care about their communities and and work hard to to own these things

00:20:55.640 yeah and work hard to follow the rules because there are a lot of rules a lot of rules we have to

00:21:01.080 follow people have no idea uh tracy how do people support the work that you do at the ccfr because

00:21:08.360 as i pointed out earlier you'd never take a penny from justin trudeau and how could you hold it to

00:21:12.200 account if you ever did so you rely on donations and membership so and merch sales because you guys

00:21:17.640 have a great merch store so tell us all about yeah yeah so you can find us at ccfr.ca um on there

00:21:25.160 there's a couple of ways you can help you can donate uh you can donate money of course that's

00:21:29.640 always helpful um you can also donate straight to our legal fund which helps us fight the liberals

00:21:35.480 in court um you can pick up a membership that's really important because the power of having those

00:21:40.520 numbers behind us really makes a difference when we're trying to influence policy and then of course

00:21:45.560 yes go to the merch shop there's a ton of cool stuff there we've got all kinds of new products

00:21:50.920 and people just love our gear i see it everywhere now me too um yeah sales are great and then of

00:21:57.880 course again if you're looking to maybe help out a little bit there's no specific time commitment

00:22:02.600 that you have to put in but if you can help out a bit that would be great send an email email to

00:22:07.640 volunteer at ccfr.ca you can find our videos on youtube and all the other podcast platforms and of

00:22:16.920 course watch us every two weeks on wild tv on a national canadian network we've got a tv show on

00:22:23.160 there awesome tracy i will let you go because i know your horse you're very tired from a very busy

00:22:29.480 last week in toronto thanks so much for coming on the show and thank you so much for all the work that

00:22:33.960 you do for law-abiding gun owners just like me we're going to keep at it thanks for the opportunity

00:22:39.640 and i hope to see you at the calgary easter gun show

00:22:58.840 well friends we've come to the portion of the show

00:23:01.640 where in i invite your viewer feedback i know i say this every single week but you know what we

00:23:05.880 get new people here all the time we got to tell them the rules otherwise they're not going to know how

00:23:09.240 to play and i just think that i better start that again because i had a pause there it looks like

00:23:16.520 the video just went so let's try that again well friends we've come to the portion of the show wherein

00:23:21.880 i invite your viewer feedback and i know this is very redundant to the regular viewers of the show

00:23:27.480 however we are getting new people here all the time so we have to tell them the rules so they know

00:23:32.440 how to play the game i give you my email address right now it's sheila at rebel news dot com put gun

00:23:38.120 show letters in the subject line and that's how i'll know that that's why you're talking to me

00:23:43.640 because i get a ton of emails every single day but specifically every single week and it is

00:23:50.200 difficult to weed through them so if you put gun show letters in the subject line i know why you're

00:23:54.520 trying to reach out to me and let me know do you want me to say your name on air do you not want me to

00:23:59.240 say your name on air just note that so i don't out you to your progressive friends or your

00:24:04.760 progressive employers but don't let that be the only reason that you interact with me if you are

00:24:11.000 watching the free version of the show either on rumble or on youtube go and leave a comment there i

00:24:16.360 go looking for your comments and story ideas over there i want to know what you think about the work

00:24:21.080 that we do here at rebel news and today's comment comes to us by way of rumble and it is on last

00:24:28.440 week's show where i was talking to peter mccaffrey from the alberta institute about largely mayor naheed

00:24:35.560 nenshi former mayor naheed nenshi's recent run for the leadership of the ndp i wanted to know what

00:24:42.920 peter thought about his candidacy if he thought that nenshi could win and if nenshi won would he

00:24:49.560 have a good shot at becoming premier the idea sends a chill up my spine um but peter is a careful

00:24:58.040 political watcher for a very long time and he's very analytical and i felt a lot better after

00:25:04.280 talking to him anyway the letter comes from the rumble comment section and it's from alberta rocks

00:25:12.400 and alberta rocks he or she writes i first moved to calgary in 1971 and i

00:25:19.420 lived there until 2017 46 years i watched that city grow from 400 000 to 1.4 million people the

00:25:27.900 construction that was going on in the early 1970s was absolutely astounding with as many as 75

00:25:34.700 tall construction cranes visible at any given time calgary was an amazingly positive city to live in

00:25:40.940 back then today i thank god i moved out of that concrete jungle because ever since the disastrous

00:25:46.620 ndp notley years calgary has never fully recovered and this bothers me to no end because alberta is

00:25:54.280 absolutely the greatest province or state in the entire western hemisphere i agree let's keep going

00:26:01.260 and calgary along with all the rural towns is perhaps the very bastion of sanity in all of the western

00:26:08.160 hemisphere also agree if calgary falls alberta falls also agree with good government back in place with

00:26:15.920 daniel smith and considering the western cowboy common sense that most native albertans have i do

00:26:21.780 not think calgary will fall also agree nenshi contributed mightily to the downhill slide of calgary

00:26:29.460 tax and spend tax and spend that's all that effing idiot understands he has less chance of succeeding

00:26:37.240 as leader of the ndp in alberta as a common toad would have so i pray he wins

00:26:42.600 i have nothing to add thank you alberta rocks it is very sad you know you talk to people who spent a lot

00:26:50.620 of time in calgary in the years before the national energy program and then through the disaster of the

00:26:56.260 national energy program and then as calgary recovered and sort of became this gem of the oil

00:27:02.300 patch to now with 30 vacancy in the downtown commercial real estate core it's sad it's sad and

00:27:11.940 it's sad to see a city struggle but it's worse to see it unnecessarily struggle because of its own bad

00:27:19.680 leadership well friends that's the show for tonight thank you so much for tuning in i'll see

00:27:26.080 everybody back here in the same time in the same place next week and as always don't let the

00:27:30.340 government tell you that you've had too much to think

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Rebel News Podcast - March 20, 2024

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Toronto Sportsmen show hints at hope for the firearms community

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