Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ Viral 'get off my lawn' mom hit with $30K ATIP bill

00:00:00.000 Imagine being slapped with a $30,000 bill to find out what government bureaucrats were saying about

00:00:19.720 you and your family behind your backs. That's what happened to my guests today. I'm Sheila

00:00:24.260 Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Gunn Show. Some of you may already know my guest today,

00:00:36.980 particularly if you're from the beautiful province of Saskatchewan. She's a former

00:00:41.340 conservative broadcaster there. So if you already know her, let me reintroduce you to her. Now,

00:00:49.580 some of you may have recently learned of my friend Lise Murrell from the viral video wherein

00:00:58.140 she kicked the local NDP candidate off her lawn when they refused to denounce secrecy between

00:01:06.840 teachers and parents. Take a look at this. Do you believe the teacher should keep secrets from parents?

00:01:13.840 I may not agree with you. Do you believe the teacher should keep secrets from parents?

00:01:19.580 Yes.

00:01:19.920 You do believe that they should keep secrets from parents? Get off my lawn.

00:01:27.100 That's Lise Murrell, Regina mom of six, and my dear friend. She joins me today because she started

00:01:36.200 an investigation into what teachers and education bureaucrats were saying about her,

00:01:43.100 and that required filing for access to information. And she didn't get information. She got a big fat

00:01:50.760 bill. Let's hear it from Lise. Take a listen.

00:01:53.740 So joining me now is my good friend, dear friend, beloved friend, Lise Murrell, mom to many and parents

00:02:06.200 rights activist. Lise, thanks for coming on the show. If people follow me on the internet,

00:02:11.680 they know that we are friends in real life. And besides all the other things that we have in common,

00:02:18.220 we're staunch advocates for government transparency and parents' rights. And you've got a wild story

00:02:27.740 of your attempts to hold the government to account and to find out what they were doing

00:02:32.220 with regard to their attacks on parents' rights behind closed doors. And the story just spirals out

00:02:39.180 of control from there. But instead of me telling you how, or telling the world how great you are,

00:02:44.500 why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself? Because you're a former broadcaster and a full-time

00:02:53.920 mom. Yes. Well, hello, my beloved friend, Sheila Gunn-Reed. Hello, Rebel Sam. It is so good to be

00:03:01.340 here today. My name is Lise Murrell. I'm a mom of six and a writer and a little bit of a media personality

00:03:07.040 from Saskatchewan. And as we all know, parental rights have become quite a big topic du jour.

00:03:14.500 In Canada, these last couple of years, especially in the wake of what happened in COVID. And being a

00:03:21.720 big fan of Sheila Gunn-Reed on Rebel News, and hearing her talk about filing Freedom of Information

00:03:28.340 Act requests on government institutions, I submitted a Freedom of Information Act request

00:03:35.880 on the Regina Public School Division. This was back in June. And basically, I asked for four things.

00:03:42.440 I asked for information about myself. I asked for information about my children. I asked for

00:03:49.060 information about sexual orientation and gender ideology in schools, because as you know, the

00:03:54.280 government of Saskatchewan basically said that we're not going to have the SOGI curriculum in our

00:04:01.600 schools. And I also asked about Pride events and the Rainbow Week of Equality, which is a brand new

00:04:07.220 rainbow week that was introduced and foisted upon the Canadian public via taxpayer funds this last

00:04:13.320 June. And what I got back was a fee estimate. Are you sitting down, Sheila? Are you sitting down?

00:04:20.860 Yeah.

00:04:21.500 They sent me back a fee estimate that said in order to get the records that I requested, it would cost me

00:04:28.400 $29,247. So nearly the Regina Public School Division. Yes, this is the school division that my kids

00:04:40.380 attend, that my kids attend. Because as a parent, as the holder of the charter right to education,

00:04:48.200 this is a little known fact in Canada, but parents are the explicit holders of the right to education

00:04:53.540 in Canada and have the ability and have the right to direct all education-related initiatives. The

00:05:01.780 parents hold the right. The children do not have the right. The teachers do not hold the right.

00:05:05.960 Parents hold the right to education in Canada. And I wanted to know what my school division was up to

00:05:11.860 when all of the parents were struggling to survive. So what they did was they sent me back an invoice

00:05:18.060 that said, give us $30,000 and we'll let you know what we've been up to. But it goes further than that,

00:05:23.120 Sheila, what they said was that if they had followed the methodology of the Office of the Information and

00:05:29.900 Privacy Commissioner of Saskatchewan, that my fee estimate would have come back at $197,000. This is for

00:05:43.220 one school division in Canada. Can you imagine the resources and the waste that they've put on this

00:05:50.860 particular focus of their attention? Can you imagine? $200,000 to figure out what your own school

00:05:58.740 school division has been doing? It's outrageous. It's absolutely outrageous.

00:06:03.520 Well, and you know, as someone who files for access to information all the time,

00:06:07.360 this is a load of malarkey. These are digital documents. This is, you go into somebody's email,

00:06:14.960 you search by keyword. They're not, you know, going down to the old printing press, turning a crank,

00:06:23.020 cranking out a stack of paper, then getting in the file, big file folders. This is no, it's a,

00:06:29.220 this would be a keyword search. Yeah. They're not paying someone to scroll through a microfiche for

00:06:34.420 hours on end and then jumping in the jalopy, going down to the post office three hours away,

00:06:40.800 sticking a ream of paper in the mail and then shipping it off to you. These are digital documents

00:06:45.720 that will be sent to you by email. If indeed they ever send them to you. Yes. Yeah. And, and not

00:06:51.920 only, well, not only is it just an egregious cost, an egregious cost. And it tells, it tells me really

00:06:57.480 everything I need to know about their focus and what their focus has been on this last couple of years.

00:07:02.360 But, but it's also, it also contra, it may contravene the Saskatchewan Parents Bill of Rights. As you

00:07:08.020 know, the government of Saskatchewan has been probably the most proactive government in the

00:07:12.420 country as it pertains to what parents get to determine and what we get to know. And as part

00:07:18.440 of the Parents Bill of Rights, there's a section that says parents have the ability to get their

00:07:23.920 kids school files. So how much of this are my kids school files? I would argue all of it. Every part

00:07:33.260 of what I'm asking for has to do with my kids experience. And yet Regina Public Schools with

00:07:40.280 their tagline, I respect, I'm responsible, I belong, I want to know, uh, say you have to pay

00:07:46.800 us $30,000 in order to get this information. It's, it's outrageous. It's an absolute outrage.

00:07:52.740 Now, uh, I showed the video in the intro to our interview, but I think the video of, well,

00:08:01.280 a couple of videos, the one of you kicking the NDP candidates off your lawn, um, that went

00:08:09.860 viral when Canada Proud posted it.

00:08:12.040 Do you believe that teachers should keep secrets from parents?

00:08:16.600 I may not agree with you.

00:08:18.960 Do you believe that teachers should keep secrets from parents?

00:08:22.420 Yes.

00:08:23.100 You do believe that they should keep secrets from parents?

00:08:26.440 Get off my lawn.

00:08:28.060 Thank you, man.

00:08:28.520 And then your speech at the, uh, March for Parents.

00:08:35.200 Million March for Children.

00:08:36.380 Yeah.

00:08:36.900 Yeah.

00:08:37.400 I think that puts you on the radar of your own school board.

00:08:40.680 And I think that's why there are so many communications regarding you directly.

00:08:48.160 Just so you get it all right.

00:08:49.660 90,000 Canadian children in $5 a day daycares.

00:08:55.840 Okay.

00:08:56.180 This is what we get for $5 a day daycare.

00:08:58.720 In over 1,000 subsidized daycare facilities, including one in Regina and one in Lumsden.

00:09:05.720 are conditioning babies, toddlers, preschool children to adopt gender theory and immerse

00:09:15.840 them in gender immersion.

00:09:18.420 The tide has now shifted.

00:09:21.720 I would love to know what these people were saying about you behind your back using the

00:09:29.120 resources provided to them by your tax dollars.

00:09:33.120 Yep.

00:09:33.740 Um, not only, not only is it, is it a breach of the social contract, right?

00:09:38.860 We must have trust.

00:09:40.340 Parents must be able to trust the teachers and school divisions and the entire education

00:09:44.800 mechanism.

00:09:45.400 And what they've done is violate that trust.

00:09:48.680 Um, but it's, but it's also, but it's also really telling in what they think they can get

00:09:53.960 away with.

00:09:54.680 And to be completely honest, I'm a mom that's done playing nice when it comes to this.

00:09:59.180 These are my kids.

00:10:00.640 I hold the rights and I'm going to hold your feet to the fire until you start producing what 0.60

00:10:05.320 I'm demanding you produce.

00:10:06.940 And, and this goes for, this goes for all levels of, of government.

00:10:11.780 I'm just, I'm just done being, uh, dumb splained that, that, you know, this really isn't any

00:10:18.800 of my business and it's not really happening.

00:10:20.940 And, you know, just trust the experts.

00:10:24.300 We all know how far the expert, as Scott Mo says, as Premier Scott Mo says, parents are

00:10:32.120 the experts of their own kids.

00:10:34.100 We must be given a voice at this, not, not only a seat at the table, we must be sitting

00:10:38.380 at the head of the table and, um, God help.

00:10:41.780 God, God help any bureaucrat that tries to get in my way on this issue. 1.00

00:10:45.860 I'm done.

00:10:46.980 I'm done.

00:10:47.520 Yeah.

00:10:48.120 Yeah.

00:10:48.320 Oh, I, I almost slightly feel bad for them if they weren't doing such a sinister thing.

00:10:53.880 And let's just talk about the great irony in all of this is that you want to know what

00:10:59.560 they're doing and saying about you and your kids and, uh, the policies around them, the

00:11:05.460 things that they're doing in secrecy.

00:11:06.940 And what do they do?

00:11:08.620 Throw up a paywall to enforce that shroud of secrecy.

00:11:13.460 Yeah.

00:11:13.980 You're doing exactly the thing you want to know that they're doing.

00:11:17.040 Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:11:18.660 And, and what's really interesting is that in Saskatchewan, our office of information and,

00:11:24.280 uh, privacy, the commissioner in charge of information and privacy in Saskatchewan does

00:11:30.320 not have order making ability, which means even if, so even if I go to them with this

00:11:36.340 invoice thing, this is, this is an egregious, egregious sin, as far as I'm concerned against

00:11:41.940 parents, not being able to find the information or be able to access the information on their

00:11:46.120 own children, on their own experience.

00:11:48.120 The, the commissioner cannot order the school board to release the documents to me or reduce

00:11:54.740 the fees.

00:11:55.480 And this is a big, uh, it's a big hole in our ability to be able to collect information

00:12:02.460 because how else do we hold these bureaucrats to account if a, we can't afford to get the

00:12:10.220 documents and if B, they're not obligated to provide them anyway.

00:12:14.460 How do we, how do we, how are we supposed to do that?

00:12:18.120 I think if the government knew just how many public servants, uh, they had working against

00:12:25.500 them, like actively working against them to get them reelected, they would be singing a

00:12:30.800 different tune as it pertains to the privacy commissioner.

00:12:32.980 But this is something that we need to, we need to have a hard look at in, especially in

00:12:37.300 Saskatchewan and in every jurisdiction where the, uh, where the information and privacy

00:12:41.680 commissioner doesn't have order making authority.

00:12:44.460 Yeah.

00:12:45.420 I mean, this is the education deep state in Saskatchewan working against parents and the

00:12:51.040 government who are trying to bring in legislation to protect parents.

00:12:54.220 And at the end of the day, it rewards the bad behavior of the bureaucrats.

00:12:57.760 Like, look what they're doing. 0.99

00:12:58.740 They can talk crap about you and your family behind your back. 0.82

00:13:05.980 You know that they're doing it now because of the amount of documents that could potentially 0.97

00:13:11.940 be returned to you, but because they did it in such an enormous manner, it amounts to

00:13:19.360 a paywall preventing you from getting the information.

00:13:23.520 That's crazy.

00:13:24.780 That's exactly what happens.

00:13:26.040 When I, when I got the fee estimate that I about fell off my chair, like I called my husband

00:13:31.400 I was like, how okay, are we remortgaging the house for me to get information about our school

00:13:36.600 division?

00:13:37.300 Like that's what it would come to their fee estimate.

00:13:40.780 $197,000 is double the cost of my first house.

00:13:44.100 That's a true story.

00:13:45.600 Sheila.

00:13:45.800 That's, I mean, it is completely, it's completely outrageous, right?

00:13:51.760 Now you can't buy a, excuse me, you can't buy a, a hovel for $200,000 hardly at Saskatchewan,

00:13:58.220 but it's still just an outrageous sum of money for any, for any individual or even organization

00:14:04.040 to be able to come up with, to figure out what's, what's gone on.

00:14:07.140 And, and they're absolutely using it to their advantage.

00:14:09.760 This is an organization that's absolutely stuffed full of crazed NDP activists. 0.91

00:14:17.900 We, they were, they were extraordinary online through COVID, just especially on Twitter.

00:14:23.900 When Twitter, back in the olden days where Twitter was being run by the, by the insane

00:14:30.020 left, you know, the lunatics running the asylum, they were extraordinarily active in attacking

00:14:38.640 conservatives is what is, is what happens.

00:14:41.500 And our family, uh, our family has been harassed for over two years by a Regina public school

00:14:47.320 teacher for over two years by a Regina public school teacher.

00:14:52.000 My kids have been made targets of a Regina public school teacher and her online activist

00:14:57.080 friends.

00:14:57.440 And to find out what they've been doing, well, give us a check for $30,000.

00:15:02.980 It's crazy.

00:15:04.480 Yeah.

00:15:04.660 I mean, what is, this is telling the bad teachers and bad bureaucrats that if we talk poorly about

00:15:12.140 these parents, let's just make sure we do a lot of it.

00:15:14.660 That's right.

00:15:15.260 So that the parents can't, can't climb over this paywall to figure out what they're doing

00:15:20.100 to them and about them.

00:15:21.940 It's literally incentivizing, incentivizing awful, abhorrent behavior by the public service.

00:15:28.460 Yeah.

00:15:29.340 Yeah.

00:15:30.100 And they get paid taxpayer dollars to do it. 1.00

00:15:32.180 We're pegging them to talk shit, excuse me. 1.00

00:15:35.660 That's okay. 1.00

00:15:36.480 To talk shit about us. 1.00

00:15:38.820 And it's crazy. 0.99

00:15:39.980 I mean, these things have to, these things have to get looked at.

00:15:44.040 Saskatchewan, Saskatchewan has done a lot of heavy lifting as it pertains to education.

00:15:47.480 Just recently, they announced that they were banning cell phones in school.

00:15:50.820 And this was an issue that I was on talking to them about even last year, because as far

00:15:55.200 as I'm concerned, sexual orientation and gender ideology caught on like wildfire throughout

00:16:01.400 our, throughout our young people's population in, in, in three sort of ways.

00:16:07.060 We had the social, the social contagion that's propagated through social media and online usage.

00:16:14.520 So this is just self, this is kids using cell phones.

00:16:16.780 It was propagated through public schools, through activist teachers that are encouraging

00:16:21.820 this insane thing to a mind virus to, to keep, to keep going.

00:16:28.340 And it was also, it was also, it also sort of happened because, because our kids were forced

00:16:33.480 into such solitude through COVID and they are, they are so starved for peer groups and for

00:16:41.600 peer attention.

00:16:42.340 And what they did was they set up these circumstances where they said, well, here's a whole new,

00:16:46.480 here's a whole set of accepting, inclusive, diverse peers that you can have.

00:16:51.960 And the government of Saskatchewan said, right, we're doing away with cell phones in Saskatchewan.

00:16:55.720 They also brought out the Saskatchewan Parents Bill of Rights, which was an incredible moment

00:17:00.640 and one of many, many that are going to be coming to other provinces.

00:17:06.320 But we have a lot more, we have a lot more work to do.

00:17:09.480 One of the reasons why teachers in Saskatchewan are able to operate the way they are with

00:17:16.540 immunity.

00:17:17.820 I mean, short of being a sexual predator in Saskatchewan, there is no way, real way to fire 0.64

00:17:23.540 a bad teacher.

00:17:24.900 This is because they're not legislated by the Employment Act in Saskatchewan.

00:17:28.120 Teachers have a special act called the Saskatchewan Teachers Federation Act and the Education Act

00:17:33.200 that sort of governs their behavior.

00:17:34.920 And so long as teachers have special protections under these acts, they can act with immunity.

00:17:41.740 They can act, they can do whatever the hell they want.

00:17:44.720 And that needs to be changed, Sheila.

00:17:46.900 Teachers need to be, need to be governed by the Employment Act, just like everybody else. 0.81

00:17:51.220 And when they step out of line, when they violate the social contract, they must not be teachers

00:17:56.980 anymore.

00:17:58.960 So, and you know, this is, this is frightening for, I think, people who live in less conservative

00:18:04.960 places in the country, right?

00:18:07.540 For example, if you live in BC, if you live in Manitoba, you live in Ontario, this is, this

00:18:15.740 should chill you, this interview right now.

00:18:18.700 Um, because Saskatchewan is one of the most conservative places, I think, in North America.

00:18:25.400 Uh, you have a conservative government that is advocating for parents' rights.

00:18:29.340 Um, but this is what the Education Deep State will do.

00:18:33.760 And it's time that parents had something more to enable us to hold them to account because

00:18:43.200 they are working against us every step of the way.

00:18:45.500 That's right.

00:18:46.780 And, and one of the, one of the things that, one of the barriers that parents have is that

00:18:52.120 we have no direct line of communication with, with, with anybody with decision-making powers,

00:18:58.640 unless, you know, unless you know a guy who knows, which I have, which I happily do.

00:19:05.060 But if you're a regular parent, there are so many barriers between you and being able to direct

00:19:12.680 all aspects of your children's education.

00:19:14.960 This is so much bigger than just having a quick conversation with a teacher or with

00:19:19.700 your, you know, with your principal at your school, because, uh, like I learned talking

00:19:24.380 to the former director of education for my school division, they will lie to you.

00:19:29.960 There is nothing stopping them from just placating you saying, right, this is, we'll handle it,

00:19:36.400 you know, just leave it with us.

00:19:37.640 We'll handle it.

00:19:38.420 And, uh, and they lie.

00:19:40.620 So what parents need is across the country of Canada is a mechanism to speak directly

00:19:47.000 to the decision makers, directly to the decision makers, where if an issue comes up, if a parent

00:19:53.800 has a concern or if a parent holds, waves a red flag saying my rights have been violated,

00:19:58.920 that there is a, that there is a support system in place to be able to support that parent.

00:20:04.020 Because as much as the public opinion polls, uh, say parents have wide support on this, uh, you know,

00:20:12.060 teachers in school should not be keeping secrets from, from parents.

00:20:16.460 Um, all, all with respect, the key stakeholder in every one of these issues is the parent and

00:20:26.300 being a parent with kids in school is such a compressed amount of time to be completely

00:20:31.100 honest.

00:20:31.540 What I think and what I say, having six children, four of them right now in elementary school

00:20:38.200 in Saskatchewan, what I say should have much greater weight than some Joe blow right in, 0.99

00:20:44.160 in rural Manitoba, who is 75 years old.

00:20:48.400 What I, what I say should have a hundred times more weight than that person.

00:20:53.160 And that is what, that is, what does not exist in, in any jurisdiction in Canada right now.

00:20:58.080 And it must change.

00:20:59.440 It must change.

00:21:01.080 And I think there is a failing, and I hate to say it on behalf of the regular citizen here,

00:21:08.100 um, in that we have not been paying attention to this nonsense for a very long time.

00:21:12.860 Oh yeah, we've been in, we've been asleep at the switch, the wheel.

00:21:16.940 Yes.

00:21:17.620 Yeah.

00:21:17.920 And you know, we focus on as conservatives and I'm guilty of this too.

00:21:22.900 We focus on the big macro issue. 1.00

00:21:24.680 We have that dumb guy in Ottawa, who's ruining the country. 0.99

00:21:27.640 And then we look at the provincial government and we're like, God help us. 0.99

00:21:31.960 If the NDP get back in, in both of our provinces, but we have to pay attention at

00:21:38.820 the municipal level, most of the COVID restrictions that really harmed us came down at the COVID

00:21:43.480 or, or at the municipal level.

00:21:45.480 Um, the municipal government isn't just when your pothole is too big that it blows.

00:21:50.980 That's right.

00:21:51.420 Out of your ear and your garbage doesn't get picked up. 0.99

00:21:53.940 We are not paying attention to making sure the right people get elected at the school board. 0.99

00:21:58.680 Now I will, I'll credit my muse, Nilly Kaplan-Mirth of the Ottawa Carleton district school board

00:22:05.080 for, for, I think turning a lot of people on to the craziness that happens at the school

00:22:12.900 board.

00:22:13.160 And if you're wondering why the teachers and the unions get away with the things that

00:22:18.920 they do, look directly at the school board and then look in the mirror.

00:22:22.580 Were you involved in the school board election?

00:22:24.620 Did you vote?

00:22:25.240 Did you choose a candidate?

00:22:26.160 What did you do, um, with those school board trustees are supposed to be your voice in

00:22:31.760 the system.

00:22:32.860 She'll elect the right one.

00:22:34.880 Would now be an appropriate time to announce my candidacy for the Regina public school division.

00:22:40.140 Are you really?

00:22:41.100 Yes.

00:22:42.540 Division seven, Northwest Regina, baby.

00:22:45.060 I'm NOD.

00:22:45.980 Like we do not, this North Regina does not abide by like this.

00:22:51.420 And we need a grownup in the room to redirect our focus because not only is our school division

00:22:57.780 completely cap, like absolutely completely captured. 0.99

00:23:00.500 It's being run by lunatic, like lunatics, Sheila. 1.00

00:23:04.680 These are people that are wholly invested in social justice, in DEI, um, the, in the complete, 0.99

00:23:12.800 uh, critical race theory.

00:23:14.660 What we want as parents, okay, what we want as parents is for our kids to be good at math,

00:23:21.300 for kids to be good at science, for kids to be really, really great at languages, to

00:23:26.160 be good communicators and critical thinkers.

00:23:28.880 This is what we want for our children, not all of this garbage that they've been forcing 0.97

00:23:34.040 down our throats. 0.72

00:23:34.900 And we need the ability to, to, to, to tell, to tell them what we want.

00:23:40.920 And that's, yeah.

00:23:41.780 Yeah.

00:23:42.040 It means getting involved at every level.

00:23:44.920 Every municipal board needs to be overtaken in this country because those municipal boards

00:23:50.640 report up to the provincial who report up to federal.

00:23:53.460 And I'm so happy that you brought up the federal government in this conversation, because as you

00:23:58.840 know, education in Canada is the jurisdiction of the provincial government.

00:24:04.200 But what we have as it pertains to sexual orientation and gender ideology, uh, across the country

00:24:12.020 of Canada in education is a federal overreach by Justin Trudeau. 0.56

00:24:17.720 Justin Trudeau is the worst teacher in the entire country of Canada.

00:24:24.760 And it is his beliefs that were percolated down to the provincial jurisdictions of education. 0.95

00:24:29.680 Every time that there is a sexual orientation and gender ideology issue in Canadian schools, 0.99

00:24:36.020 that is the result of electing this fool teacher as our prime minister. 1.00

00:24:40.920 He is to blame. 1.00

00:24:42.500 Right.

00:24:43.180 And he is funding the activist organizations with federal bucks.

00:24:47.400 And those are the ones influencing the local curriculum.

00:24:50.100 That's exactly right.

00:24:51.160 That's exactly right.

00:24:52.060 As it pertains to, as it pertains to the rainbow week of action that, that, that was propagated

00:24:58.320 throughout all of the public school boards in June, uh, that was, that was funded by him.

00:25:04.520 All of these initiatives are being funded by him.

00:25:07.420 It is insane.

00:25:09.000 The, over the federal overreach into provincial jurisdiction on this matter.

00:25:12.800 And, um, I can't, I can't wait to, I can't, I mean, I will be dancing in the street when that man is voted out of his office.

00:25:20.180 I will be dancing with you.

00:25:21.860 Yes.

00:25:23.320 We'll be in our matching cowboy hats.

00:25:25.300 That's right.

00:25:26.580 Yeah.

00:25:27.000 Our little sprinter vans just leading a parade.

00:25:29.380 We're done.

00:25:29.840 We're done.

00:25:30.600 Uh, but then, but then also we'll have a lot of work to do to, to undo all of the damage.

00:25:34.740 And that's, that's very much a part of this is we're going to have a lot of heavy lifting to do to undo the damage of these last nine years.

00:25:40.640 Well, and as Trump says, you got to drain the swamp.

00:25:44.540 You cannot think that things are going to change when you leave a bunch of underminers in the bureaucracy.

00:25:51.120 That's right.

00:25:51.840 That's right.

00:25:52.900 No, if we could cleave off, if we could cleave off that Laurentian triangle, I mean, just expropriate it from the rest of the country.

00:26:00.160 We'd be so much, we'd be so much further ahead right now, but, uh, a little, it's going to be an interesting year.

00:26:06.940 That's for sure.

00:26:08.120 It's going to be an interesting year.

00:26:10.500 So what's next?

00:26:12.680 I'm going to do what I can to help you, uh, unravel what's going on with your access to information filings.

00:26:19.620 Uh, we have some in-house expertise that we will rely on because I'm just as curious about what's in those documents as you are now at this point.

00:26:26.880 Um, because if they're doing this to you, they're doing this to a lot of people, probably me included.

00:26:32.500 Um, oh, without question.

00:26:34.420 I don't think they should be able to do this stuff in darkness.

00:26:37.120 Um, and this should scare them, prevent them from doing it to the next batch of parents that come up behind you.

00:26:43.360 Um, and you're running for school board.

00:26:46.480 Um, and then we also need to get those, uh, access to information laws changed.

00:26:50.920 Yeah, we really, really do.

00:26:53.540 Well, it's imperative.

00:26:54.440 It's imperative if we want to correct, if we want to correct the public trust, if we want the public to have trust in the institutions, we must be able to know what these institutions do.

00:27:03.080 So, Lise, how do people, uh, see what you're doing?

00:27:05.860 Follow you?

00:27:06.620 What do they have to do?

00:27:08.140 You can follow me on X.

00:27:10.180 This is Elon's, this is Elon's place.

00:27:12.660 And my handle is my name, Lise Merle, L-I-S-E-M-E-R-L-E.

00:27:17.040 Uh, or, or you can just contact Sheila because she knows where I am all the time.

00:27:25.120 Yeah, no, oh, this isn't great, babe.

00:27:27.420 This is just, we're just great together.

00:27:29.580 I mean, yeah.

00:27:30.880 Aren't we?

00:27:31.240 Lise, I feel like I'm going to have you back on again very, very soon, especially since you have a new foray into the political sphere, which you did not tell me about until now.

00:27:42.140 And I'm, I'm sorry, I thought, sorry, I thought I, I thought I mentioned it before, but I might have been.

00:27:48.260 I feel like you should have mentioned it.

00:27:52.900 You know, I, I, I go between like, God, am I bombing her phone too much?

00:27:57.640 But then, no, it just, no, it's just always, it's, it's just like a, it's like a stream of consciousness.

00:28:03.580 And this is what's great about our friendship is, is I feel like we operate very much on the same level.

00:28:10.400 You know what I mean?

00:28:10.880 At a really fast clip and we keep up with each other.

00:28:13.520 Sorry that I didn't, I didn't mention that.

00:28:16.460 Actually, it's a pretty, it's a pretty new decision.

00:28:18.420 It's a pretty new decision, but I'm, I'm, I'm super excited.

00:28:21.160 I mean, you know, those tattoos that people have, be the change you want to see in the world or what I go.

00:28:27.340 Well, that's what, that's basically what I'm doing.

00:28:29.580 Yeah.

00:28:30.460 Yeah.

00:28:30.780 Be in the change.

00:28:31.940 I can't wait to see, I can't wait to see you win and then strike fear in the hearts of your fellow trustees.

00:28:39.340 I, I can't wait either, but, but to be on, but to be honest, across, across the country of Canada, we've all identified school boards as a big, big problem.

00:28:46.920 And what I'm recommending people do is go to their, go to their school board website right now, screen cap, all of the current trustees names, and then commit to voting for somebody else. 0.99

00:29:00.940 Vote these bastards out that did this to us. 0.99

00:29:03.840 Vote them out at your earliest convenience, Canada. 1.00

00:29:06.720 It's imperative.

00:29:07.720 It's absolutely nothing is more critical than voting your current school board members out.

00:29:13.980 If they did the damage, they may not be rewarded for it.

00:29:24.480 Well, friends, we've come to the portion of the show wherein we invite your viewer feedback because unlike the mainstream media, I actually care about what you think about the work that I do here at Rebel News because without you, there really is no Rebel News.

00:29:35.080 We rely on you because we will never take a penny from not only Justin Trudeau, but any level of government to do the work that we do to hold the government to account.

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00:30:00.280 It's Sheila at RebelNews.com.

00:30:02.900 Put gun show letters in the subject line so I know why you're emailing me because I do get dozens of emails every single day from outside of the company, and it is hard to keep track of them all.

00:30:14.660 Now, this week's letter comes from a regular viewer and longtime supporter of Rebel News, and it was on last week's show where I just took letters from you.

00:30:27.800 So, and one of the letters was on some comments that I made about the Australian breakdancer, if you can call her that, named Ray Gunn, no relation.

00:30:39.900 And Ray Gunn, if I understand correctly, thought that her useless degree in, I think it's cultural movement, would magically transform her into some sort of Olympic athlete. 0.96

00:30:58.740 I think she single-handedly had breakdancing removed from the Olympics going forward. 0.93

00:31:06.920 But imagine the narcissism of thinking that just because you studied the politics of breakdancing in the Olympics, that somehow you would then be a better athlete than actual breakdancers.

00:31:25.140 Well, that's what happened with good old Ray Gunn.

00:31:27.840 Now, she has complained now that anybody being critical of her is guilty of devastating misogyny. 0.63

00:31:34.560 No, actually, I think the woman who thought that her useless degree would somehow make her better than the other female breakdancers, that's the misogynist, right? 1.00

00:31:46.860 She's the one that did something to harm female breakdancers, not me. 1.00

00:31:51.440 Anyway, I made some comments about Rachel Gunn, no relation, Ray Gunn as she dances under.

00:31:57.580 And so a lady sent me a scathing email about how I, I'm obviously jealous of Rachel because I don't have the same university qualifications as her. 0.99

00:32:12.660 I'm doing just fine.

00:32:14.440 But anyway, and I think the fact that Ray Gunn has a doctorate in cultural movement is more of an indictment on the university system than anything else.

00:32:29.780 Because I read her university dissertation and just, wow, lots of progressive mumbo-jumbo and exactly what you would expect if someone wrote a dissertation on the politics of breakdancing and the inclusion of breakdancing into the Olympics.

00:32:49.520 So, long time Rebel News viewer, supporter of the things that we do here at Rebel News, Dave Hines, sent me an email about my remarks to the lady who said that I was just jealous of Rachel Gunn, no relation.

00:33:12.860 So, he says, hi Sheila, regarding today's university degrees, I think this cartoon sums it up.

00:33:21.060 You might say that the deer get it or that Alberta's deer are smarter than what is being turned out by today's universities.

00:33:28.780 And then he sends us this cartoon here.

00:33:32.480 I normally just sign with my name, but in this case, I'll include my qualification so no one can say that I have not done the work to get a degree and I'm not qualified to criticize our universities.

00:33:44.100 And just for the record, they were all earned in the 20th century.

00:33:48.820 Dave Hines, BCom, CPA, CMA, CIM.

00:33:54.660 Thanks, David.

00:33:56.560 Nice to hear from you.

00:33:57.520 And even if you didn't have all those fancy letters behind your name, you seem like a pretty smart guy and a decent individual.

00:34:05.440 So, well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:34:07.560 Thank you so much for tuning in.

00:34:08.860 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.

00:34:11.620 And as always, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

Rebel News Podcast - August 22, 2024

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