Rebel News Podcast - SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ What does a Trudeau resignation mean for Canadian taxpayers？

00:00:00.000 Justin Trudeau has announced that he will be resigning eventually whatever that means but

00:00:21.740 what does that mean at the end of the day for his unpopular inflationary carbon tax I'm Sheila

00:00:28.040 Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show

00:00:29.940 Justin Trudeau announced this week that he is eventually resigning as the prime minister of

00:00:53.580 this country or rather resigning as the leader of the liberal party now the liberal party is the

00:01:00.360 governing party so the leader of the liberal party in our parliamentary system is the prime minister

00:01:05.360 now Trudeau is staying on when a normal leader would appoint an interim leader until the liberals

00:01:13.760 complete a robust leadership selection process so that could be months from now we know for sure

00:01:20.600 that he has prorogued parliament to avoid a confidence vote until the end of March so

00:01:27.840 Canadians continue to languish Justin Trudeau is still prime minister and the only thing we know

00:01:33.580 for sure is that we will have a new prime minister definitely definitely by October 2025 now what does

00:01:41.640 that mean for some of Justin Trudeau's more unpopular policies well we do know that some of his

00:01:46.200 censorship bills and his pandemic laws died when he burned them all down by proroguing parliament

00:01:55.680 to save himself and increase his party's fortunes in the next election but the carbon tax remains now

00:02:04.900 I have some data out of the corner of my eye that I would like to share with you it's from Angus Reid it's

00:02:12.200 from back in March of 2024 and now I think these numbers will have changed slightly since March because

00:02:21.800 since that this was this data was taken we've had a carbon tax increase and and the inflationary crisis

00:02:32.740 happening in Canada has been exacerbated and life is increasingly unaffordable now back in March before the

00:02:41.960 carbon tax hike most Canadians currently say that the cost of living and their concerns about the

00:02:47.780 cost of living should outweigh climate change concerns when making economic policy the criticism

00:02:54.560 of the carbon tax is driven by a sense that it is ineffective at reducing Canada's greenhouse gas

00:03:00.180 emissions and two in five Canadians say the carbon tax is making their life a lot more expensive

00:03:07.160 and one quarter say it's increasing their cost of living a little while only four percent by the

00:03:16.500 liberals line that it's saving the money that you're getting more back in return than you pay

00:03:23.300 now liberals they could kill this carbon tax right now but they're not in fact there is an increase

00:03:30.500 again set for April 1st so joining me next is my friend from the Canadian Taxpayers Federation Chris Sims to

00:03:38.540 discuss the looming carbon tax hike right on the cusp of the liberals returning after proroguing parliament

00:03:49.640 and what the liberals could do now to well I don't care if they help themselves but to help Canadians

00:03:57.020 suffering under the carbon tax take a listen

00:04:00.900 so joining me now is my good friend and good friend of the show Chris Sims from the Canadian Taxpayers

00:04:09.400 Federation uh I thought I'd have her on because it's such a slow news week there's absolutely nothing

00:04:14.820 to talk about happening uh of course that sarcasm uh there are a lot of implications for

00:04:22.680 the cost of living unfolding right in front of us uh I think one of the main reasons the Trudeau

00:04:29.460 liberals are plummeting in the polls is of course because of the affordability crisis exacerbated by

00:04:35.380 his carbon tax and before we started rolling you pointed out um a very important timeline in all of

00:04:43.300 this let us know what that's all about yeah this is a big deal and so for folks who are thinking oh yay

00:04:48.800 ding dong the witch is dead you know the carbon tax will be over no no no no uh in the famous words

00:04:54.160 of Rambo nothing is over this is not over this is just starting so what's fascinating about this

00:05:02.600 timeline is get a load of this so right now the liberal party is going to be selecting a new leader

00:05:09.180 and they got to get that done at lightning speed because they're going to reconvene parliament comes back

00:05:15.180 on march 24th okay just after that because it's been prorogued they have to have a throne speech

00:05:22.820 a throne speech is actually a confidence vote okay after that even if they for some magical reason

00:05:30.080 didn't have a throne speech which of course they have to to reconvene parliament there's also a

00:05:34.260 supply motion to keep the lights on to keep money rolling for the fiscal quarter so there's going to

00:05:40.340 be just minefield after minefield for this brand new liberal party leader whoever that person is

00:05:46.440 that first week so march 24th they reconvene shortly after that throne speech opposition says the

00:05:54.420 government is going to fall then they hit the hustings they start door knocking april 1st carbon tax hike

00:06:01.480 imagine being that newly minted liberal party leader and a member of parliament trying to regain your seat or

00:06:09.760 keep your seat door knocking after you just hiked that person's carbon taxes good luck good luck

00:06:18.080 it's almost like a leg snare laid out by trudeau for his successor uh i'm not even sure however that

00:06:27.200 the liberals will have a new leader in place in the few short months between now and when parliament

00:06:33.200 comes back or the prorogation ends because justin trudeau kept saying stuff like robust

00:06:39.400 leadership selection process and robust to me means long and drawn out

00:06:44.920 yeah but i this is the thing okay let's just speculate for fun because it's fun of it

00:06:51.420 political nerds okay um so they're gone for they're gone now they're prorogued which of course as

00:06:58.280 everybody knows that means that parliament is now on ice everything has been held all of the you know

00:07:04.020 bills have died on the order paper as they say in extreme circumstances if something is super special

00:07:09.660 you can bring back a bill at its current stage in a new parliament but they have to have all parties

00:07:15.740 agreeing to that so that would be something special like a private member's bill that people feel is

00:07:21.020 really important something like that okay so parliament is prorogued as of right now they're working the

00:07:27.900 phones trying to get a new liberal leader i think it's 90 days that is within the liberal party

00:07:34.080 constitution that they have to have for their leadership review for their leadership race that's

00:07:40.420 three months they say it's coming back march 24th imagine if they don't have a liberal party leader

00:07:49.500 selected justin trudeau prime minister justin trudeau is still the liberal party leader as of march 24th

00:07:57.900 then what then there's a throne speech and then there's a confidence vote and then it falls and

00:08:03.820 is he automatically then still going to run as leader like it's pretty crazy so folks within the

00:08:12.020 british parliamentary system that like analyzing this of course will point out that we don't vote

00:08:17.600 for a prime minister we vote for a member of parliament whoever forms the majority that party has their

00:08:23.120 leader and that person becomes prime minister so this you're right this is not over and this is

00:08:29.680 still a bit of a dog's breakfast but say the liberal party gets its act together real fast and they manage

00:08:35.480 to have a newly minted person as leader in time for them to sit again they'll fall immediately from the

00:08:42.580 sounds of it that's a big asterisk because we have to wait and see what the ndp actually does not what

00:08:48.060 they say they're going to do then we have an election but the big roadblock at the end of this

00:08:53.660 thing that they're driving right into is a carbon tax hike and the carbon tax is one of the reasons

00:09:00.220 why they're at the bottom of the polls as you said before we started rolling and i've put it in our op-ed

00:09:05.820 that should be coming out soon in the sun it's their millstone it's the millstone hanging around the

00:09:11.060 necks of all of these candidates so they should cut it off this week like when they have their little

00:09:16.060 emergency cluster meetings and stuff of oh my god we're gonna do they should announce they're

00:09:20.640 scrapping the carbon tax the liberals should now you mentioned something i just want to correct you

00:09:26.520 on this we you said um you know we vote for an mp and that mp if he is the leader of the party will

00:09:32.780 become the prime minister but that is not always the case we saw a scenario exactly this in alberta with

00:09:40.000 jim prentis he was selected to be the leader of the pc party and thus the premier of alberta but he

00:09:47.580 at the time did not have a seat and so we could be faced with a situation where we have a prime

00:09:57.240 minister of this country who is not a sitting mp and you know some of the front runners being

00:10:04.340 touted by the mainstream media like mark carney and christy clark neither one of them are sitting

00:10:11.880 mps wouldn't that be crazy yep so very like that is a good point so in the interim so what you're

00:10:20.460 saying is before an election yeah so they they select their leader within their own party that

00:10:27.460 person yeah would automatically become prime minister isn't that wild so in that rare instance you're

00:10:33.920 right if there's somebody who is currently does not have a seat that person does become that which

00:10:39.640 is kind of fascinating now it would be expected and or hoped that they would then capture a seat win a

00:10:46.040 seat in the next election but what an absolute mess what an absolute mess and good luck finding a safe

00:10:54.200 liberal seat these days you have a tough time finding one in toronto at this point in doubt but keep that

00:11:00.060 in mind folks that was not on like the edges am i allowed to say fringe on this show i'm not sure

00:11:05.620 yeah yeah i find it offensive um it's a swear it was not on the fringy edges of toronto that was in

00:11:16.260 like the heart of toronto that bright red dot that was always there that is no longer there so yeah they're

00:11:23.200 in deep trouble and i have got to stress a huge reason why it's not just because of trudeau as

00:11:30.560 much as people don't like trudeau it's it's what they did it's the fact that people can't afford 0.98

00:11:36.060 jack anymore and one of the main reasons why they can't afford stuff is because of stupid things like 0.96

00:11:42.380 the carbon tax which punishes every single part of your life from heating your home to driving to work 0.92

00:11:48.000 to growing food buying food you name it and the i i i still can't believe frankly they haven't had an

00:11:54.680 announcement like if i were members of parliament within the liberal party i'd be gathering together

00:12:00.540 some of the pointy heads in the party and saying we're having a press conference like today right

00:12:05.200 saying we're getting rid of the carbon tax now that's one of the reasons i think the liberals are

00:12:11.220 sort of looking outside the party for a new leader is because everybody is just so tainted by trudeau

00:12:17.140 and their defense of the carbon tax to some like i see that they're sort of stuck in the same

00:12:25.840 conundrum that kamala harris was stuck in how do you position yourself as a person to fix this mess 1.00

00:12:34.360 when you are the person who got everybody into this mess either by uh running cover for justin trudeau

00:12:41.220 or introducing many of justin trudeau's flagship policies freeland so you know they're they're

00:12:48.180 looking from outside of the party for maybe for somebody with less political baggage but their

00:12:53.820 two main names that they're throwing out to us are mark carney carbon tax carney and christy clark

00:13:01.960 who i think if you roll back christy clark's uh public statements she is one of the reasons we 0.98

00:13:09.900 have a national carbon tax because when she was the premier of bc she was saying look at the carbon

00:13:15.480 tax in bc it's working it's revenue neutral we're strong supporters of this nationwide so how do you

00:13:21.680 get around that how do you how do you bring forward to outside the party carbon tax supporters to sort

00:13:28.040 wash away the carbon tax support within the party i think these they've really screwed themselves here

00:13:33.360 it's just delicious so this is what i love about uh live shows so did christy clark make a statement

00:13:40.000 against a carbon tax recently you said you're despite her public statement no no i mean what i mean is

00:13:47.180 she has publicly stated um that she is in support of the carbon tax but now there she's sort of being

00:13:54.420 polished by oh maybe we'll have a new female leader of the liberals but how do you get around 1.00

00:14:00.200 the fact that she was pushing a carbon tax which is immensely unpopular nationally oh big time okay

00:14:06.120 so for folks who don't know i'm from bc yeah so i was born and raised there and i worked there as a

00:14:11.460 taxpayers federation director there as well so christy clark is literally a carbon tax cheerleader

00:14:18.740 she's the reason we have one yes i think yeah yes big time so like that is the headline in the cbc

00:14:26.960 like article from i think 2016 so this was not you know a billion years ago it was just as she was on

00:14:33.760 her way out so the ndp for folks who don't remember the provincial ndp in british columbia

00:14:39.120 unseated the then called bc liberal government in 2017 okay there was this whole foo for our about a

00:14:46.520 minority blah blah blah anyway the bc liberals lost their grip on power in 2017 i will point out

00:14:54.860 directly that carbon tax was not revenue neutral that bc liberal government can say until it's blue

00:15:02.880 in the face that it was revenue neutral it was not if we have time got the original bc liberal

00:15:12.060 premier who started the carbon tax was then gordon campbell to be fair when they did introduce the

00:15:19.560 first carbon tax the first time they did do a corresponding income tax cut so mathematically

00:15:26.680 and on paper one could argue that was revenue neutral fair it didn't take them long though sheila

00:15:34.140 because government's gonna government they started playing with the books and we caught them playing

00:15:40.760 with the books so what they were doing including under the government of then bc premier christy clark

00:15:48.820 was this they would take the revenue from the carbon tax and they would place it in the budget on one

00:15:56.280 paper one sheet they would list the revenue whatever it was for an argument's sake say it was one billion

00:16:02.660 okay then they started putting a whole bunch of pre-existing and unrelated and in some cases old tax credits

00:16:13.220 into that column like shoving it onto that sheet to take away the revenue making it balance out to zero

00:16:21.700 like we're talking film tax credit converting farm property to school tax credit kids fitness tax credit

00:16:30.520 like this was not you know in order to invent dilithium crystal charging machines right or to give

00:16:37.260 people you know hydrogen powered vehicles or something no no no no it had nothing to do with

00:16:41.820 emissions nothing to do with fuel or the environment they were taking old tax credits and stuffing them

00:16:48.180 into the revenue column for years and making it balance out to zero so much so you know when you come 0.90

00:16:54.320 into something new and you ask stupid questions yeah that's a good place to be because that was the 0.93

00:17:00.840 first budget i was covering for the canadian taxpayers federation i noticed this immediately 0.98

00:17:05.780 in their books i went to the deputies so don't go to the politicians right go to the finance

00:17:12.100 bureaucrats and he looked at me dead in the face during lockup he said yeah this has always just been

00:17:18.100 an accounting exercise so that was that was not the case and keep in mind also when they first hatched

00:17:26.460 the carbon tax in bc they told us that it was going to stop at 30 a ton that it was actually going to be

00:17:33.100 revenue neutral that it would trigger a plethora of affordable alternative energies and that it would

00:17:39.060 make emissions go down that they would make them meet their targets today none of that is true and

00:17:45.460 you're right you're bang on because british columbia's carbon taxes there's two of them

00:17:51.380 have been used as a template for the rest of canada trudeau directly went to british columbia

00:17:57.720 he used the bc carbon tax as a template and that's frankly where you see christy clark at the time

00:18:03.560 the premier being a cheerleader for a carbon tax talking directly into trudeau's ear about this

00:18:09.740 so unless she has come forward recently and i don't know where she has disavowed her previous

00:18:17.640 huge support for the carbon tax that's the reality on the ground in bc yeah i mean it didn't do the

00:18:24.360 one thing that it was designed to do and that was reduce emissions if if you believe that that's what

00:18:29.240 it was designed to do it just wasn't some revenue raising scam as these things tend to be and mark

00:18:35.440 carney i mean carbon tax carney in his spare time he works for the united nations to debank and de-insure

00:18:43.680 energy projects do you think that the no pipelines bill and all the gba plus nonsense shoehorned into

00:18:51.540 our energy approvals process will disappear with somebody like mark carney in charge i think it's

00:18:57.320 just going to get worse it'll be the prohibition by regulation and bureaucratic nonsense on any energy

00:19:06.240 project going forward while our american friends are doing drill baby drill oh gosh you imagine and

00:19:12.840 just juxtaposing that with the incoming trump administration i know every now and then just

00:19:19.840 to amuse myself i imagine trying to do a pitch meeting with trump trying to sell him on a carbon tax

00:19:27.140 can you imagine i mean let's be real if barack obama and joe biden right didn't do a carbon tax

00:19:34.680 like like what are you smoking the idea that you would be able to convince donald trump the u.s

00:19:41.440 president donald trump to have go for a carbon tax so to your point there's going to have to be some

00:19:47.940 member of parliament who is so far in the back benches that they can try to say listen i was dragged

00:19:52.940 along i tried my best i felt really bad for my constituents but this guy our former leader was

00:19:59.840 just attached to this thing and i don't know stephan guibo was bullying me or so who knows

00:20:04.820 right and have to come clean and say but now i've changed i've seen the light i'm against the carbon tax

00:20:09.880 clearly like learning your lesson right because they're going to take a drubbing in the polls over

00:20:14.720 this largely over this issue or it's going to have to be somebody that we don't know yet it's going to

00:20:21.020 have to be some businessy person out of toronto who's never said anything publicly about a carbon

00:20:25.520 tax it comes out vociferously against it like i just can't see the liberal party hanging on to this

00:20:32.420 topic for a minute later i just i don't know how they jettison it after this was just their thing

00:20:40.040 since 2015 i mean remember katherine mckenna just celebrating the kit like the canadian government

00:20:47.520 signing on to the paris accord it was like their flagship thing so i don't know how nine years

00:20:53.240 later they can turn around and say you know what that was a terrible idea all that begging and pleading

00:20:58.240 you guys did that we didn't listen to we're listening to you now it'll just seem so insincere and i think

00:21:04.420 that's reflecting at the polls uh i want to you know sorry go ahead just real quick yeah i'll just

00:21:09.340 repeal to them this way even if you know you're going down it's never too late to do the right thing for

00:21:15.900 people right it isn't i believe in redemption yeah um the redemption is there all they have to do is

00:21:22.940 reach out and grab it i just think that nobody will i just i just that's where i'm at with these guys

00:21:30.720 they could save people money if they if they killed it right now which they could because it's just a 0.70

00:21:35.540 regulatory thing because it goes up automatically on april 1st they could kill it today and save people 0.76

00:21:42.060 money instantly even if they're going to lose the election because that would be the right thing to

00:21:48.120 do yeah i just so we'll see i'm not holding my breath but i would really love to see that happen

00:21:53.100 as i said yesterday on x i firmly believe that justin trudeau has a congenital inability to do the

00:22:00.300 right thing given how he resigned and he still didn't even do that sorry resigned you guys were one of

00:22:08.720 the only ones that was pointing this out saying ah wait he's not going intends to resign and he's

00:22:15.580 waiting until after the new leader is picked so that could that could be three months like that's

00:22:20.560 that's a long time yeah and sacrificing the welfare of canadians to bolster the fortunes of the liberal

00:22:29.320 party to make sure that they are as close to election ready as they can be given the chaos unfolding

00:22:35.820 in the liberal party um while canadians wait and wait and wait and pay we're the ones paying the

00:22:43.800 bills and keeping the lights on like all the mps mps make backbenchers make two hundred thousand

00:22:50.540 dollars per year while not working right now make three hundred thousand per year pardon me

00:22:55.260 while not working right now yeah oh yeah they're still getting paid yeah and cabinet ministers are

00:23:00.320 still cabinet ministers you know if aliens invaded we would need like the foreign affairs minister to

00:23:06.300 go talk to them so she's still foreign affairs minister pardon i don't know if we want that let's

00:23:11.280 roll out premier smith again thank goodness she's acting as our foreign affairs minister i don't want 0.95

00:23:16.620 melanie joly negotiating with aliens i don't smith is actually into as an aside she's into sci-fi

00:23:25.320 she's like super into it so she could totally talk to them she probably has a universal translator 1.00

00:23:29.780 i bet that she has given this some thought now just quickly changing lanes sure to premier smith and 0.96

00:23:36.500 alberta because much of your role is focused on alberta a couple of new taxes in alberta at the

00:23:44.620 beginning of the year a a vape tax and then um they've raised the registration costs for electric

00:23:53.540 vehicles now normally and i i think i'm doing this for the wrong reasons normally i'm against

00:23:59.640 tax increases fundamentally speaking but those electric cars are using the roads i pay for with my gas tax

00:24:10.260 and uh i don't think that's right right so as you said i'm with the taxpayers federation right

00:24:19.480 so i am allergic to tax increases and new taxes so i have hives even saying these things

00:24:25.420 right exactly i grind my teeth there's but it's so easy to increase a tax on something like vaping

00:24:32.460 because it's essentially it's a sin tax right in the same way that you have increased tobacco taxes

00:24:38.340 and so it's hard to defend um frankly you know government should be small enough to drown in a

00:24:44.880 teacup and it should do less of everything so we shouldn't have these tax increases to pay for 1.00

00:24:50.560 things that said the bigger one i thought was the electric vehicle tax which i found interesting so

00:24:58.660 to your point exactly it's a taxation but it's a form through registration and it's two hundred dollars

00:25:04.340 per year now they're thinking is this exactly to your point well you're not paying the provincial fuel

00:25:11.140 tax which is used to maintain the roads and you're also apparently electric vehicles are heavier

00:25:17.120 yes than conventional vehicles go figure and so therefore the thinking is they'd have more wear and

00:25:23.240 tear on the road over time what i found really interesting is that when they made this announcement

00:25:29.920 they did so at last year's budget in february in edmonton and it was weird because right there

00:25:35.420 in the budget language they said yeah we're creating this or imposing this electric vehicle fee tax thing

00:25:42.340 because you don't pay fuel taxes to maintain the roads although we do not use the provincial fuel tax

00:25:50.680 to maintain the roads in alberta

00:25:52.940 i thought that was the weirdest thing and i've never figured out why they included that in there

00:26:01.400 is it because they were trying to say that it isn't automatically dedicated in a fund for it or

00:26:07.660 they pay more in road taxes than they take in in the fuel like it was it was something so or was it

00:26:14.900 just a dig to me it kind of felt like it was a bit of just a dig right at ev owners saying yeah we

00:26:21.960 don't make we don't make the regular car drivers pay through their taxes to maintain the roads but we're

00:26:26.920 going to make you pay for it anyway deal with it is kind of what i gathered from that but i could be

00:26:31.880 misinterpreting but yeah those are the two main new taxes here in alberto now with regard to the

00:26:38.480 electric vehicles i don't even care if they have to pay increased registration i would prefer if we cut

00:26:45.980 the subsidies to electric vehicles and then i don't care about the 200 getting them on the other side

00:26:53.100 same same so cut the subsidies which is just costing us a billion dollars it's a crazy amount

00:27:00.320 of money that taxpayers are subsidizing i will point out like mega international corporations

00:27:05.860 right you are not helping your yeah you are not helping your local ice cream shop here

00:27:12.160 no you are giving money to volkswagen and ford and a whole bunch of other major international

00:27:18.700 vehicles yeah giving them and it's not just like millions it's billions it's billions and then they

00:27:24.380 go broke or they hire temporary foreign workers from another country they don't even hire canadians

00:27:29.060 and so we've got this three-headed gross monster here we've got the taxpayers money going to these 0.98

00:27:34.960 mega corporations we have got a ban coming up on normal cars so the trudeau government in lost in all

00:27:43.820 the chaos of the carbon tax and stuff the trudeau government is banning the sale of new elect a new

00:27:50.120 gasoline and diesel powered cars so your normal cars new ones are going to be banned for sale like

00:27:55.300 real soon unless the government changes and unless the new government decides to repeal that ban

00:28:01.080 so that's the second one the third one drives me crazy we don't have the energy to charge these

00:28:08.700 vehicles so even if in my happiest star trek moment everybody got an electric vehicle like

00:28:17.960 tomorrow it's a dilithium crystal vehicle right out there and you have to charge it using electricity

00:28:23.480 say it was for free where's the energy coming from to plug it in like we don't have it like we get

00:28:30.400 warnings every winter don't use your hair dryer in the morning because we're gonna have a blackout

00:28:34.280 yeah like we have an energy right now and i sat down and did the math if everyone in canada if

00:28:41.600 their vehicles were switched by a fairy godmother to electric tonight we would need 14 new can-do

00:28:49.060 nuclear reactors not those little itty bitty ones that scott moe's talking about no no the big honkers at

00:28:56.080 darlington nuclear in ontario the ones that are not building anymore the ones that take 10 years and like

00:29:02.480 10 billion dollars we'd need 14 of them so yeah that's just sorry you got me on my bugger bear but

00:29:09.980 no no no i i completely agree with you and i'm glad you pointed out that alberta with 800 years of clean

00:29:16.240 burning coal under our feet and all the natural gas that we could ever ask for we don't have enough

00:29:21.140 energy to run our furnaces when it gets to minus 40 and the reason for that is not just that they

00:29:30.560 accelerated the coal phase out under the ndp but regulatory uncertainty yes caused by an ndp government

00:29:40.840 in alberta and a liberal government in ottawa meant that either the retrofitting of the old plants

00:29:50.400 just didn't happen or didn't happen fast enough and new natural gas plants weren't built nobody was

00:29:56.840 investing because when you have to worry about how it's going to make the ladies feel because 1.00

00:30:01.960 there's a gba analysis plus gender-based analysis plus put on energy approvals the companies were

00:30:07.960 like no thanks we'll just go to north dakota thank you very much and here we are energy starved in

00:30:13.620 alberta in alberta it was one of the craziest things i learned moving here so yeah that's another thing

00:30:19.980 if pierre polio becomes prime minister that's the other thing on his to-do list to try to get done

00:30:25.760 before launch on day one is to put an end to this nonsense because the very idea that alberta

00:30:32.200 we're supposed to be the energy patch here in canada is lacking energy for our basic functions

00:30:40.540 okay is crazy like that has got to be fixed now lost in all the bad news and fake resignation

00:30:49.880 resignations happening over the last couple of days is that bill c63 died on the order paper so

00:30:58.500 that's justin trudeau's censorship bill that would regulate what we can say and do on the internet and

00:31:04.980 i know you speak to this issue as a former journalist but as a head of the alberta taxpayers federation and

00:31:15.140 part of what you do is try to hold the government to account when the government is censoring

00:31:19.560 citizens under the auspices of safety uh that makes accountability all but impossible um so

00:31:28.240 that's good news but the online news act remains the stream act remains and so we still have

00:31:35.040 government controlling not just the internet but funding journalists and contaminating and polluting

00:31:41.540 their coverage yeah big time i've described it before as a two-side advice where we've got

00:31:48.240 government money taxpayers money government funding of journalism and to your point exactly not just

00:31:54.400 cbc which is 1.4 billion and the trudeau government at the last second announced they wanted to increase

00:31:59.940 that to 2 billion yeah per year by the way for the cbc before they were out of here um so we've got

00:32:05.840 funding of the cbc plus tons of the mainstream media now on government payroll to the tune of when you

00:32:13.120 work it out between all the tax credits and the direct funding and stuff it's close to 30 000 per

00:32:18.720 employee in a media company it's unbelievable so there's the funding on the one side of the vice

00:32:24.880 and exactly right sheila we've got this censorship on the other side of the vice so we've got c11 we've

00:32:31.160 got the online news act we've got them trying to regulate even podcasts and stuff through c11 now

00:32:36.480 which is crazy going after podcast providers for content etc and you're right though we should take

00:32:42.960 a little win there a victory with bill c63 because that was the stuff where they were attacking it on

00:32:48.900 with harms right so i'll i won't be graphic but this government for reasons known only to them

00:32:57.800 for some reason took a bill that was supposed to prevent sexual abuse of children and the sharing

00:33:06.260 of images of child sexual abuse on the internet i don't use the other word because it's disgusting

00:33:12.160 so they took laws about that which every decent person which would support strengthening like i don't

00:33:20.600 know anyone that would know like yeah throw the book at them forever that's fine like all party will

00:33:26.840 pass it under the jail forever exactly yeah under the jail like that put them down there so they took

00:33:33.400 that and they tacked on this like online speech and what people would consider to be harmful speech

00:33:42.140 and then we had all this crazy situation of the idea of having like a a human rights tribunally type

00:33:48.400 person some bureaucrat deciding whether somebody has to go on house arrest yeah for something they've

00:33:54.620 said that somebody else finds anonymously offensive like it was wild right and so and future crimes

00:34:01.500 you could go under house arrest for somebody complaining that you would cause them detestation

00:34:08.300 somewhere down the road for something you hadn't quite said yet yeah call tom cruise we're in minority

00:34:13.760 report exactly awful we were dealing with future crime and also past past crime yes so if you made a

00:34:19.980 tweet you know 15 years ago that somebody now decides anonymously again i will point out yeah and for

00:34:26.120 didn't they have a chance of winning damages too yes oh my gosh so imagine this folks money it's

00:34:32.760 anonymous you have a chance of cashing in and you get to complain to some bureaucrat and try to nail

00:34:40.020 somebody you don't like over and over and over again in canada that's what bill c63 had in it it was

00:34:46.520 wild so yeah you're right we should take a w on that as the kids say because it's gone and the

00:34:53.500 conservatives have promised boy they have a long laundry list they promised so many to just

00:34:59.100 completely get rid of all of that so yeah i think the first two years of a conservative government is

00:35:05.060 going to be nothing but repealing and commissions investigations and inquiries we're going to see

00:35:11.580 like gomri style inquiries i think for the first couple of years especially with stuff like the green

00:35:17.520 when i was a little kid i'm misremembering because it was in the 80s and i was like a small child uh

00:35:25.580 but there was a moment i think it was the lou ferrigno hercules movie i think it's where he

00:35:32.280 diverts the river yes and it rushes through the stables it's going to look like that yeah so it's

00:35:39.500 going to look like that for the first year they've got so much to do oh i hope it sweeps all the nonsense

00:35:45.020 out to see similarly uh okay chris how did people find the work that you're doing and how do they get

00:35:52.540 involved in the very important accountability work that the canadian taxpayers federation does

00:35:58.040 for us the canadian exactly so i really have to hammer this point home it's not over like i can't

00:36:07.120 stress this enough as an observer of politics my entire life and i've been in the arena for 25 years

00:36:12.240 now is the time like we've got walking wounded members of parliament we've got politicians who

00:36:18.780 are scared they're not going to get re-elected if you want them committing to things to change things

00:36:24.260 do it right now email them now phone them now say if you think i'm going to pay one more nickel of

00:36:33.500 your carbon tax like you are dreaming in technicolor you've got to push them now and because this is when

00:36:39.300 they reform their new platforms and make their new commitments so if you want to go to our website

00:36:44.880 taxpayer.com click on the petitions page and there's tons of petitions there so if you want to scrap the

00:36:52.140 carbon tax you want to defund the cbc which uh pyaliev has also promised to do if you want to reverse the

00:36:59.120 firearms confiscation big time okay reverse the censorship laws all that stuff is in there sign up

00:37:08.240 and that automatically makes you part of our standing army and the next time i'm sending you

00:37:13.680 out a call to action which i'm literally doing today saying everybody email your liberal mp and

00:37:20.240 tell them to scrap the carbon tax this morning then you're on that army list and you're part of the

00:37:25.940 thousands of people who flood their inboxes and trust me it makes a huge difference that sort of

00:37:32.240 action played a huge role in making sure the conservative party woke up to its senses and

00:37:38.760 re-reversed itself on the carbon tax remember for a little while there was like a phase where they

00:37:43.260 were like wanting solar blenders and carbon taxes yeah so that action played a key role in making that

00:37:49.860 happen making that change happen so go to taxpayer.com sign the petition it's for free and you're

00:37:54.840 automatically on our army list and you'll get the call to action you know i'm glad you mentioned that

00:38:00.400 this is not just about the liberals this is also about keeping the conservative oh yeah conservative

00:38:04.900 uh ralph klein was really good at this he would say show me the parade that's marching and i'll jump

00:38:11.800 in front of it and lead it so what the taxpayers federation does and i think we do this here at rebel

00:38:17.060 news is we we get the parade going we show the decision makers or the wannabe decision makers right now

00:38:24.740 what the people care about so this is your ability to send a message to these people in between elections

00:38:32.020 that these are the issues that canadians really care about and they better damn well do something

00:38:37.360 about it to your point and this is the beautiful part poliev gets it oh yeah he said so on he said so

00:38:45.100 in his op-ed which he keeps sharing by the way put in the national post and he just said it to dr jordan

00:38:52.760 peterson yeah he basically said and paraphrasing i can't do this by myself if you guys want this done

00:38:59.740 this done this done you've got to mobilize your people make sure your factory workers your corporations

00:39:04.880 your unions your school boards all of these groups your mom's groups they need to tell me what they want

00:39:12.580 me to do and they need to push back when i'm running into cobwebs and and regulations so there's going

00:39:19.800 to be hey imagine if he becomes prime minister and he announces he's defunding the cbc like the sky is

00:39:27.800 going to fall all of the chattering classes are going to freak out all of academia is going to freak out 0.99

00:39:33.860 and all of us who want them to defund the cbc it's up to us then to push back on them we got to be

00:39:39.780 louder exactly do it more faster so to your point exactly khaliev has said directly that he wants

00:39:49.640 standing armies on these issues it doesn't even need to be with the taxpayers federation it can be

00:39:54.420 with rebel it can be with whatever group that is mustering the posse of the parade make sure you guys

00:40:00.100 stay in the arena it is not over on election day if and when that ever happens right and you know it is

00:40:06.480 so important to keep conservatives conservative hold them accountable to the promises that they

00:40:12.340 make to the people i think we did that with jason kenney we will do that with danielle smith when she

00:40:18.780 wanders into crazy country we'll do our best to bring her back i know you have been critical of her

00:40:23.560 when she's not bringing in tax cuts enough and now she is so it's important these politicians will

00:40:30.480 listen to you if you're loud enough and part of being loud enough is the petition process at the

00:40:36.460 taxpayers federation but also over here at rebel news yeah for sure and it's one of those human

00:40:41.580 nature things right they see that you're engaged yes if if you're just some person they've never heard

00:40:47.500 of before you're less inclined to listen to that person no matter what political ideology you have

00:40:52.380 but if you're showing up at the meetings if you're bringing the bake sale cookies and stuff and like

00:40:57.380 you're talking to them like that's a relationship you're building there and that's how you get change

00:41:02.540 done so yeah thank you so much for highlighting that it's a huge factor i really don't want people

00:41:08.140 to think if and when the election happens and if and when the government changes that it's tools down

00:41:13.100 no no no no like the rebuild starts that day and it's up to us to make sure it happens oh chris uh

00:41:21.020 what are you up to next i know you've got um something coming uh yes tell us uh what's up next for you

00:41:28.060 so the next thing should be an editorial that should pop into the toronto sun newspaper chain

00:41:33.680 i'm hoping very soon within the next 24 hours and this is critical again the liberals are burned right

00:41:40.760 now those mps are freaking out we could get rid of the carbon tax this week this week the conservatives

00:41:48.840 don't need it they've got an entire army of caddies pulling clubs behind them at this golf course 1.00

00:41:54.340 that they can beat you know the liberals with they don't need the carbon tax club they've got a

00:41:58.860 billion other things that they can also run on but just imagine if we could get this thing gone

00:42:04.120 this week we'd be instantly saving people money so that is my laser focus right now well i'm glad

00:42:10.440 i'm glad for it uh especially as alberta is in the middle of a cold snap chris it is thanks so much

00:42:17.460 for coming on the show uh thanks so much for always taking the time to advocate on behalf of

00:42:22.260 just the regular people the forgotten people as you say the politicians like to listen to the

00:42:28.300 chattering classes and uh really the chattering classes don't get them elected it's us 0.63

00:42:35.020 as always i turn over the last segment of the show to you because without you there is no rebel

00:42:51.380 news it's my little way of thanking you because we'll never take a penny from justin show we rely

00:42:56.140 on your support to keep going here and you really did help us stay fighting and keep going during a

00:43:03.360 time of intense government censorship that still remains and it will remain until the conservatives

00:43:10.620 root it out out of our government now you can send me your questions comments story ideas

00:43:18.960 or viewer feedback about the show today by writing me an email send it to sheila at rebelnews.com put

00:43:27.420 gun show letters in the subject line so i know why you're writing to me but also if you are finding

00:43:33.460 clips of the show or any of the work that i do here at rebel news on the censorship platform of youtube

00:43:40.740 or on rumble leave a comment sometimes i go looking over there to see what the people are saying now

00:43:48.300 today's viewer feedback comes to us by way of the youtube comments on a live stream that

00:43:57.680 we did on monday it was a live stream hosted by myself and initially the big boss ezra levant although

00:44:06.120 he had to poke off the show and uh do some outside media appearances because the americans are really

00:44:13.160 looking to us here at rebel news to break down what trudeau is really doing um with his resignation

00:44:20.660 which is not really a resignation at all and to explain a little bit about how our parliamentary system

00:44:28.340 really works so cut through the bs and the jargon to show that it is really just the most trudeau thing

00:44:37.240 trudeau has ever done the man cannot even resign properly without being some sort of malignant narcissist

00:44:43.840 anyway on that note um let's get to the youtube comments no dig bk mish writes thank you rebel news

00:44:57.720 i'm certain that your journalism played a huge part in justin finally admitting defeat and stepping

00:45:02.180 down well done i hope i never have to listen to his voice again thank you for making his exit speech

00:45:07.440 bearable uh what did i say on that live stream i said his uh neo-feminist emoting felt like someone

00:45:14.300 was licking the inside of my ear it was just gross um but we are going to have to hear a lot more from

00:45:22.880 justin trudeau over the next little bit because he's still prime minister and there's no timeline

00:45:29.280 for him to no longer be prime minister i mean as chris explained if they don't have a leader in place

00:45:36.460 and the government falls on a confidence vote by the end of march 2025 he could be the leader of the

00:45:45.680 party going into the next election so we are not even close to being done with him i don't know if

00:45:51.160 our journalism had a lot to do with justin trudeau resigning i i'm flattered that you think that it

00:45:58.420 did i think it was justin trudeau's series of scandals and our honest reporting on those series

00:46:08.840 of scandals versus the varnished version that you get from the mainstream media that may have moved the

00:46:15.600 needle for a lot of people and a lot of my journalism on this stuff is simply just covering

00:46:20.440 committee testimony or commission testimony the public order emergency commission on justin trudeau's

00:46:27.100 illegal invocation of the emergencies act or the foreign interference commission where you are just

00:46:33.140 reporting verbatim what is being said at these things and it really shows you how selective

00:46:43.360 the mainstream media is in their coverage of the same topic they are sitting there watching the same

00:46:50.960 committee hearings i do their coverage looks a heck of a lot different barbara corbett

00:46:58.500 z e 3 m y on trudeau's

00:47:04.160 tongue licking resignation resignation speech she says he is heartbroken because his luxurious world

00:47:15.320 travel luxury taxpayer funded groceries booze and accommodations his exorbitant salary and perks

00:47:21.580 for doing nothing his security detail non-stop photo ops and attention will all be grind to a grinding to a

00:47:28.460 halt this year reality is going to hit him hard i'm not sure i mean his chances of becoming

00:47:36.320 a world economic forum darling or a united nations darling have plummeted in the last year i think if he had

00:47:46.600 extracted himself from this earlier before he hit rock bottom in the polls and before the rest of the 0.98

00:47:57.840 world sort of realized what a foppish idiot justin trudeau is i think he could have maintained those perks 0.99

00:48:05.060 by joining a globalist organization but i think now he's even so unpopular and so 1.00

00:48:13.800 disrespected that his ability to move on to those opportunities is completely gone however we know

00:48:22.920 he comes from wealth and he's got wealthy friends uh let's see if his wealthy friends have abandoned him

00:48:30.000 i'd like to think that they have but who knows you know epstein had friends right to the end

00:48:37.300 too all right one more canadian citizen 4700 writes he never takes responsibility for his own scandals

00:48:48.240 dividing the nation breaking canadians trusting government or his overspending he just doesn't

00:48:53.920 get it shielded by his enablers fluffers and the media yeah every time that he did something wrong it

00:48:59.640 was a learning opportunity for all of us like i never did blackface i never groped any journalists

00:49:06.180 in british columbia he did that i don't have to learn not how to how not to do that he did but it when

00:49:14.600 he did something wrong it was our collective shame and we did when he did something right it was

00:49:24.220 his victory and his victory alone i can't wait i i can't wait till our national nightmare is over

00:49:32.380 but we're going to have to wait because as i said justin judeau cannot even resign like a normal person

00:49:43.540 just screwing us right to the bitter end well everybody that's the show for tonight thank you

00:49:51.080 so much for tuning in i'll see everybody back here in the same time in the same place next week and

00:49:55.420 as always do not let the government tell you that you've had too much to think

Rebel News Podcast - January 09, 2025

SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ What does a Trudeau resignation mean for Canadian taxpayers？

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