Rebel News Podcast - January 30, 2025


SHEILA GUNN REID ｜ What does the looming election mean for gun rights？


Episode Stats

Length

43 minutes

Words per Minute

159.75665

Word Count

6,959

Sentence Count

517

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

Rick Igersich of the Canadian National Firearms Association joins me to discuss the upcoming election and what that means for Canadian firearms owners. We also talk about the latest liberal gun ban and the potential for another one in the middle of February.


Transcript

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00:00:40.500 Is there another gun grab coming our way in the middle of February?
00:01:00.040 The people who pay attention to this stuff seem to think so.
00:01:03.000 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gun Show.
00:01:10.500 This show and this interview that you're about to watch,
00:01:25.880 I've been trying to schedule this interview since the beginning of December,
00:01:30.400 but our schedules just wouldn't line up.
00:01:32.500 I was traveling for work when he was available and then he was traveling for work when I was available,
00:01:39.080 but we finally, finally were able to align the stars.
00:01:44.980 And today, my friend Rick Igersich from Canada's National Firearms Association joins us to discuss
00:01:51.280 the upcoming liberal leadership election and potentially the next,
00:01:59.360 if the NDP will let us have it, general election and what that means for Canadian firearms owners
00:02:04.940 and the last gun grab, which happened in December and a potential upcoming one happening in February.
00:02:12.700 We've got a lot to talk about, so I'm going to button it up
00:02:15.160 and you're going to watch the interview I recorded earlier today.
00:02:19.660 Take a listen.
00:02:21.280 So joining me now is good friend of the show, good friend of Rebel News
00:02:26.460 and a fierce champion for freedom, Rick Igersich of Canada's National Firearms Association.
00:02:32.240 Rick, I've been meaning to have you on the show for a couple of months.
00:02:35.720 Our schedules just wouldn't line up because we are both so busy.
00:02:39.940 But I wanted to, first and foremost, talk to you about the latest liberal gun ban
00:02:45.940 that, again, they are just ramming through without the scrutiny of parliament.
00:02:49.980 And you and I were talking off camera about the potential for another gun ban.
00:02:56.160 Again, while parliament is completely pro-wrote, so the government does not have a mandate to do these things
00:03:02.620 and still they're going to do them.
00:03:04.120 So tell us, take us all the way back to the latest gun ban
00:03:07.160 and then walk us through the next one that's coming.
00:03:10.280 Oh, thanks for having me on your show again, Sheila.
00:03:12.380 Yeah, let's go back to December where the liberals, in their wisdom, decided to drop another gun ban on us.
00:03:21.420 This one really affected a lot of people.
00:03:23.680 They basically banned bullpup-style semi-automatics and pistol-caliber carbines.
00:03:31.940 Now, this pistol-caliber carbine thing is really, really reaching out in all directions.
00:03:39.800 We've been working with a couple of IPSC Ipsic shooters by the name of Melody Filson and Taylor Reich,
00:03:47.580 both out of Calgary, both out of Alberta, and they're scheduled to compete in the World Championship pistol-carbine rounds in Chesnia in May,
00:04:01.000 and now they can't go because their rifles became prohibited.
00:04:04.740 Their rifles are in the safe, just like the original Ordering Council AR-15s and the other 1,800 rifles that were pulled off at the same time in May 2020.
00:04:18.360 This has been going on since May 2020.
00:04:21.500 But with that said, it also affected Canadian industry.
00:04:28.020 Lockhart Tactical out of British Columbia,
00:04:29.940 they did everything they could to stay within the guidelines to produce firearms, to create jobs, to collect taxes in Canada,
00:04:41.220 and now the firearms they produced became prohibited.
00:04:45.740 You know, we've been working with them trying to, you know, put their plight out there on our social media.
00:04:52.640 People just don't realize what this ban did.
00:04:55.740 Other businesses affected were Kodiak Arms, here in Ontario, a producer of firearms, Crusader,
00:05:03.180 another company out of Ontario, and, you know, there's many more candidate-wide that, you know, we don't have enough time to mention.
00:05:13.420 Listen, this whole deal was originally put forward as another liberal political ploy to gay support.
00:05:26.500 Didn't work this time.
00:05:28.600 People basically wrote it off in about a day and a half.
00:05:31.740 You know, and then, with that said, the public safety minister said that there's going to be another addition to the firearms ban in the middle of February.
00:05:43.880 The word we've been getting is that there's going to be SKSs involved, possibly Lee Enfields, military, you know, World War I military rifles, Ross rifles.
00:05:55.820 Anything with a capacity of more than five rounds, this is, it's nothing short of ridiculous of what the liberals are doing.
00:06:03.140 But at the end of the day, it's backfiring on them.
00:06:06.420 There's a, there's definitely, there's definitely an election in the air.
00:06:12.220 Sheila and I were just discussing before the show whether it's going to happen or not.
00:06:16.340 And Jadneed Singh is so unpredictable that he's looking for any way to stay connected to the liberals.
00:06:25.540 He's more of a liberal than a lot of the liberals that are working under Trudeau right now.
00:06:29.740 So, you know, that's where we're at.
00:06:32.020 That's where we're at.
00:06:32.980 But, you know, we'll talk a little later.
00:06:34.580 Paul, he or Paulieff has made some statements.
00:06:37.020 This, you know, absolutely white, an anti-group, what are they called?
00:06:45.340 They made a statement a few days ago that Pierre Paulieff is soft on gun safety because he's working with Canada's National Firearms Association.
00:06:58.320 They actually put that out in social media a few days ago.
00:07:01.620 Unbelievable.
00:07:02.220 You know, and Paulieff has been sticking to his, no pun intended, sticking to his gun.
00:07:08.940 So, you know, that's kind of where we're at right now.
00:07:13.380 They've been changing public safety ministers as they, you know, as much as some people change their clothes.
00:07:19.560 So, I don't know.
00:07:21.100 I don't know who this McGinty guy is.
00:07:23.240 I don't know a lot about him, but he's been really quiet on the firearms issue.
00:07:27.620 So, I don't know.
00:07:28.700 We'll see.
00:07:29.000 I guess we'll see who it is next week, Sheila.
00:07:30.880 We'll see who the next public safety minister is.
00:07:33.220 But then again, at the end of the day, this is all under approval of Parliament.
00:07:37.020 So, I, no, it's hard to, it's hard to understand.
00:07:42.360 You know, the idea that they are going to go in and ban the SKS, they floated this the first time around when they did their massive ban.
00:07:52.400 I think it was, yeah, I think it was in the first one.
00:07:54.900 There's so many gun bans happening in the last four years.
00:07:57.240 I've lost track of when they all happened, but they floated the idea that they would get rid of the SKS.
00:08:02.780 The SKS is one of Canada's most popular firearms for those people who don't know.
00:08:08.560 They were completely unregistered.
00:08:12.380 They are cheap, affordable to shoot.
00:08:15.580 They have been available for years at gun shows.
00:08:19.300 They are not a crime gun, by the way.
00:08:22.740 So, they don't even know how many of them there are.
00:08:27.860 So, for them to now say, we can go get them from some people and now put a price tag on what it's going to cost to compensate all those people for the firearms, the Liberals have no clue.
00:08:43.200 They're completely making this up.
00:08:44.680 But this is what they do when they're plummeting in the polls.
00:08:48.300 They pull out abortion and firearms, and we've watched them do both.
00:08:55.400 The pro-lifers and the firearms community, they seem to be the whipping boys for the Liberals every time they fall in the polls.
00:09:02.380 Absolutely.
00:09:03.960 You know, and there's the other thing, too.
00:09:06.960 We've been getting wind.
00:09:08.240 There's a lot.
00:09:09.180 You know, they came up with this price list a little while back, and there's a lot of people out there.
00:09:16.580 You know, I'll give you an example.
00:09:20.460 A PMAG for an AR-15 normally sold for about $25 or $30 of plastic magazine blocked the five rounds to fit in an AR-15.
00:09:30.240 They put this list together to pull these parts and magazines off the street, and some of the prices are triple and quadruple.
00:09:40.380 So, people are taking advantage of that.
00:09:43.760 I heard, actually, and I've been on the road, and my people have been on the road, you know, talking to Canadians in the States and all over Canada.
00:09:52.940 I heard that a lot of these dealers are turning these parts that are connected to some of these firearms on the Order and Council, and they're getting paid.
00:10:05.700 They're getting, no, they're turning them in.
00:10:08.240 No, he's not paid yet, as far as I know, but all these parts are showing up.
00:10:11.940 Colt Canada is destroying these parts, supposedly, for the government.
00:10:16.120 All these parts are going to Colt Canada and Kitchener, and that's where these parts are supposedly being destroyed.
00:10:25.820 Now, you know, everybody's happy.
00:10:27.660 Oh, you know, I've got skids of AR-15 magazines that I'm paying $8 for, and I'm getting $60 for them.
00:10:34.220 But, you know, the elephant in the room is, I haven't heard of anybody getting paid, government is pro-roll, and where is the money for this?
00:10:43.460 Right now, there's no support in Canada for industry groups.
00:10:47.300 There's a group out there, sold out to the government, you know, created these lists.
00:10:52.220 I just came back from Safari Club International in Nashville, talking to hunters in there, and hunting in Canada, especially in the West, as far as sheep, moose, bear, is big.
00:11:07.440 It's big revenue for Canada.
00:11:09.040 It's big taxes for Canada.
00:11:11.280 It's huge.
00:11:11.800 And these people are having trouble bringing their guns in.
00:11:13.960 So we went down to talk to these people.
00:11:15.640 We created a pamphlet, it's on our website, on how to bring guns into Canada, and the problems that you might get into at the border.
00:11:27.920 And a lot of people have been getting into problems at the border crossing.
00:11:31.560 So you created this pamphlet to help everybody.
00:11:34.360 But it's beyond that.
00:11:36.900 It's the Liberal government is so-called doing conservation, which they're not.
00:11:44.000 They're actually messing up the mooster.
00:11:47.440 Their Blackburn, Ontario are running rampant because they closed the season for a few years.
00:11:52.340 There's more to it.
00:11:53.860 And everybody that I spoke to at Safari Club was concerned about what's going on in Canada.
00:12:00.160 Canada is a go-to for big game hunting.
00:12:03.720 And these people, these Liberals, have no idea how this is hurting tourism, how it's hurting income coming into these small towns.
00:12:12.980 You know, income coming into these guides.
00:12:16.440 It's ridiculous.
00:12:17.640 There's no end to it.
00:12:19.000 This whole firearms ban thing, this whole, well, you know, we're going to hug some trees and we're going to try to save these animals,
00:12:28.320 has blown completely out of portion and it's blown out of proportion worldwide.
00:12:32.420 Because it wasn't just Americans down there.
00:12:34.800 It was people from around the world that hunt in Canada.
00:12:38.400 And, you know, it's not like these guys are spending peanuts.
00:12:42.620 When they go on a sheep hunt, some sheep hunts are $125,000.
00:12:46.820 These people pay $125,000 to put into the Canadian economy and now it's questionable whether or not they can do that.
00:12:56.580 Same thing at SHOT Show.
00:12:58.860 I was, SHOT Show was on at the same time as SCI.
00:13:03.920 My guys were at SHOT Show.
00:13:05.580 Our lobbyists, Tom Blair, Nathaniel and Chuck were down there.
00:13:09.980 The biggest concern at SHOT Show we found this year, and we talked to all the Canadian people.
00:13:17.220 We'll go down there to talk to a couple of things, American advocacy groups that are on the same line as us and Canadian vendors, wholesalers, retailers.
00:13:30.460 The biggest concern in Canada is, number one, the Canadian industry groups have absolutely no representation.
00:13:39.120 This isn't me saying this.
00:13:40.220 This is them saying it.
00:13:41.280 They have no representation in Canada.
00:13:43.840 Canada, NFA, we'll definitely be working on that to get them some representation in Ottawa.
00:13:50.200 The people that are representing them right now are the people that sold out for three quarters of a million dollars, and now they created this list.
00:13:58.460 Now, apparently some of these people are happy because they're turning in all their parts, but nobody's got a check yet.
00:14:04.640 So, I don't know where this whole thing's going.
00:14:07.320 This government change, our lobbyists have been working every day.
00:14:11.900 Today, I think, like you, Sheila, I hear a different story every day.
00:14:16.580 One day, Jagmeet Singh's going to do this.
00:14:18.500 The next day, you know, there's going to be a legal action.
00:14:21.600 The next day, oh yeah, there's going to be an election on the 25th of March.
00:14:25.200 It's a never-ending, almost like it's a never-ending chain of lies.
00:14:30.140 You know, my opinion, and a lot of Canadians are thinking the same way.
00:14:37.620 Liberals forget that the firearms community can move a lot of votes in one direction.
00:14:44.880 I think it was the firearms community that led to Stephen Harper's majority because his commitment to get rid of the long gun registry.
00:14:56.920 Now, you said you didn't know much about the new public safety minister, and why bother getting to know him?
00:15:02.220 He'll probably be one of four before the Liberals are done, and, you know, quite likely they'll be unelected very, very soon.
00:15:10.220 But I do know a little bit about the associate minister, Rachel Bendayan.
00:15:18.060 She is a rabid anti-gunner.
00:15:21.720 She's one of those people who says, assault weapons, well, what does that mean?
00:15:26.560 Should be used on the battlefield and not in our communities.
00:15:31.480 They use the vague terminology.
00:15:34.380 So, having her as the associate minister in public safety makes her the—I think she sets the tone for the ministry going forward.
00:15:48.440 And as we pointed out earlier, they don't care if they don't have a mandate.
00:15:53.220 This is an agenda-driven thing to disarm the Canadian public and to make sure that they're never even compensated for the wrong done to them.
00:16:01.860 So, there's a lot of stuff going on.
00:16:03.780 And one thing I forgot to say is, when they came up with this extension to this Ordering Council gun ban in December,
00:16:12.700 they said, oh, we're going to take some of these firearms, and we're going to send them overseas, you know, to the Ukraine.
00:16:22.320 And basically, the Ukrainians are saying, we don't want your five-shot semi-automatic rifles.
00:16:28.260 You know, we want AK-47s and M4s.
00:16:30.680 We don't want, you know, guns that—there's no way a shape and form can be confronted into a—
00:16:35.740 Yeah, the Mini-14 Ranch Rifle.
00:16:39.960 Yeah.
00:16:40.760 You know, and a lot of these—you know, they—this is how close-minded the Liberals are.
00:16:48.640 They think any AR-50 is a .223 or .556, which is basically the same thing.
00:16:53.940 And it's a military round, and, you know, they can ship it over, and they can use this and that.
00:17:00.000 There is dozens of calibers that these AR-15s are in, two or three different calibers that Ruger Ranch Rifles are in.
00:17:09.920 So, what are they going to do?
00:17:10.840 Send a box of guns and say, well, okay, got to find a round for this one.
00:17:13.900 Okay, that's a 308.
00:17:15.260 That's a 6.5.
00:17:16.820 Oh, oh, there's a 300 blackout in there.
00:17:19.120 We don't have those.
00:17:20.280 You know, stuff they push out is ridiculous.
00:17:23.960 Their thoughts are ridiculous.
00:17:25.800 They don't think anything up.
00:17:27.220 They don't research anything.
00:17:28.640 It's all election wedge issues.
00:17:32.040 It's all stuff to garner votes in Canada.
00:17:35.360 People are seeing through that.
00:17:38.080 This December 15th, man, people forgot about it, and we were talking earlier probably in about 45 minutes.
00:17:45.300 It didn't affect anybody.
00:17:46.720 I don't think it changed the vote.
00:17:49.260 They're grasping because they're in trouble.
00:17:52.720 You know, Sheila and I were talking earlier about, you know, these potential next leaders of the Liberal Party.
00:18:01.040 You know, Mark Carney and, like, Krista Freeland.
00:18:07.860 Yeah, you know, Justin Trudeau clones, people.
00:18:11.660 You have to realize that they're Justin Trudeau clones.
00:18:14.820 They're doing everything they can, including stuff which I don't think is legal, to try to get themselves elected again.
00:18:23.300 I don't know, Sheila.
00:18:24.520 This country is in a mess, and we need some big changes real quick.
00:18:29.920 Yeah, you know, between Carney and Freeland, which WEF leader are we going to get?
00:18:35.300 I guess that's what it comes down to.
00:18:38.040 Yeah, yeah.
00:18:39.040 Let's toss a coin.
00:18:40.340 Well, you know what?
00:18:41.360 I look at it this way.
00:18:42.220 Which one is going to put more money in Justin Trudeau's pocket?
00:18:45.840 I think probably that'll be the next leader.
00:18:48.300 Mark Carney, billionaire.
00:18:49.560 I've been seeing a lot of, you know, I was still in the firearms lane.
00:18:55.200 I mean, I've been seeing a lot of interesting stuff about Carney popping up on the internet lately, you know, about his past and stuff.
00:19:00.900 So we'll just leave it at that.
00:19:02.400 Like I said, you know, I like to stay in the firearms lane.
00:19:05.600 But, uh, funny, Carney has not mentioned firearms, which is, which is...
00:19:10.860 That's a great point.
00:19:13.160 I'll see if we can ask him if he doesn't call the cops on independent journalists.
00:19:19.300 And I'd love to put that question to him.
00:19:21.100 Well, I think you're the only one that hasn't been arrested yet.
00:19:24.000 You know what, Ed, I, uh, broke my teeth on, uh, the, uh, getting arrested and thrown out of things much earlier than everybody else.
00:19:33.620 I was thrown out of the Alberta legislature by Rachel Notley.
00:19:37.480 And I was also interrogated over a book I wrote about Rachel Notley.
00:19:40.820 So not to say that I haven't been, uh, hassled by the cops in the course of my duties here at Rebel.
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00:20:13.560 I'll see you there.
00:20:14.520 And you know what, I'm glad you touched on that, uh, ridiculous, uh, plan to confiscate guns from Canadians and then just send them over to Ukraine.
00:20:23.100 Uh, because underlying all of that is a fundamental flaw in the logic of the Canadian anti-gun movement.
00:20:31.200 It's that they think I should not be able to defend my own life with my firearms against an intruder.
00:20:40.580 But they firmly believe it's my patriotic duty to allow a Ukrainian to do it with my firearms.
00:20:48.660 Yeah.
00:20:49.600 Yeah, the reasoning doesn't make any sense.
00:20:52.560 We want to take these guns out of the hands of law-abiding Canadians because, you know, one in a million.
00:21:00.300 Quite literally.
00:21:01.240 They might use this gun to protect themselves.
00:21:03.520 But no, we're going to put these guns in people's hands that are going to be shooting at each other every day.
00:21:09.060 Right.
00:21:09.500 There's no sense to it, you know.
00:21:11.560 It's basically the old, uh, you know, have your cake and eat it too, because that's exactly what this is.
00:21:17.340 Well, they are over here saying our hunting rifles are weapons of war, and then they want to confiscate them from us and then turn them into weapons of war instead of the benevolent hunting rifles they are for us here.
00:21:29.140 Now, uh, Rick, I wanted to have you on because, as I said, the firearms community can sway a lot of votes if they get organized.
00:21:36.280 So I wanted to pick your brain about some of the ways that people can get involved in helping change this government.
00:21:44.420 Right now, right now, with an election looming, you need to reach out to your candidates of record and MPs, anybody that's going to be running in the next race.
00:21:55.700 You have to bring firearms to the forefront.
00:21:58.700 You have to tell them that there's two point, who knows how many million firearms owners out there that want to keep their personal property.
00:22:09.580 Reach out to your MPs, talk to them, send letters, letters work.
00:22:16.080 When I was, when I gave evidence at the Senate, the senators were overwhelmed by letters that were coming in.
00:22:23.920 Their, their, their systems couldn't handle it.
00:22:26.040 And I was approached afterward and said, what'd you guys do?
00:22:29.180 You know, what'd you do, Senator, uh, uh, uh, a generic letter out there and have them send it, send it to us?
00:22:34.600 I said, well, you know what, maybe I should sit down and read some of those letters because everyone is different.
00:22:39.340 You know, this, this whole thing of, you know, sitting in the, sitting in the weeds and being quiet, those days are done.
00:22:47.420 Uh, it's just not us.
00:22:49.440 You know, uh, it's, it's about our personal property.
00:22:52.360 It's about our freedom.
00:22:53.500 And other people are jumping on board with us.
00:22:57.500 They're not fireers people.
00:22:58.800 There's people joining the FAs that don't own fireers, but they care about their personal property.
00:23:04.000 They care about their property rights and they care about their freedom.
00:23:07.380 And that's a big thing right now.
00:23:09.300 You know, this, we can't let this, uh, uh, liberals run rampant and try to take this government again.
00:23:17.060 We need to, we, we're a big voice in Canada.
00:23:19.920 We need to be heard.
00:23:21.640 Talk to your friends, talk to your neighbors, man.
00:23:24.560 Christmas at my house, when, when the in-laws come in there, you know, I deal with all, all political colors.
00:23:32.140 And at the end of the day, I stick to my guns.
00:23:35.200 I don't back down.
00:23:36.280 They backed out.
00:23:37.340 The problem with people that vote liberal vote, uh, they're colorblind.
00:23:42.960 They don't look at the, I'm probably going out on a limb here, but they don't look at the facts.
00:23:47.780 They don't know what's going on, what the, what these people are doing to them, what they're doing to us.
00:23:53.100 But we're not the problem.
00:23:54.800 Sheila, you and I are not the problem.
00:23:56.380 We're law-abiding firearms owners.
00:23:58.280 Our parents were firearms owners and our grandparents were firearms owners.
00:24:02.280 And there was never any issues until it became a political issue.
00:24:07.080 And that's what the problem with the whole, uh, with the whole deal is right now.
00:24:12.000 They're, they're dragging firearms into Ottawa, into, uh, you know, into, into politics to,
00:24:18.960 to garner votes.
00:24:19.980 And that's not right.
00:24:21.200 You know, why not, you know, why not drag bad pens, you know, drag pens in the, you know, pins,
00:24:27.300 pens could be dangerous if you, if you stab somebody with it, you know, it's, it's, it's ridiculous.
00:24:31.780 So like what I say, the NFA is definitely gearing up for this election.
00:24:36.600 We're going to be putting, we're going to be putting, uh, stuff out on all the candidates,
00:24:42.680 where these, what their position is on firearms, uh, where they stand.
00:24:47.280 And, you know, we're not just going to be reaching out to the conservatives.
00:24:50.360 We're going to be reaching out to everybody and, uh, getting their positions.
00:24:53.860 And if, you know, if their position doesn't match your thoughts, you know, vote for the
00:25:00.220 person that, that does, because the biggest thing is to, and I'm, I know I, I, I'm, I'm
00:25:07.460 dragging on here, but people don't want to get out and vote.
00:25:09.940 If people do not want to get out and vote, you know, they say, well, you know what?
00:25:15.300 They'll never come and take my guns.
00:25:16.420 How many times did I hear that before the order in council and the handgun freeze?
00:25:21.200 I'm not worried.
00:25:21.920 They're not going to take my guns.
00:25:23.600 Oh, well, I, I got 25 handguns and now I can't leave them to my heirs.
00:25:27.660 What do I do, Rick?
00:25:28.640 What do I do?
00:25:29.520 Well, there's a couple of things you could do.
00:25:31.460 The biggest thing is keep them in the state as long as you can.
00:25:35.320 And the NF, Canada's National Firearms Association now has a firearms business license and will
00:25:41.380 hold those guns until either a government changes or, or something else changes where
00:25:47.420 those guns can be passed down or sold, you know, to, to help the families out.
00:25:52.740 I think we're, we'll probably in the next little while, we're going to be into the, this is,
00:25:56.880 this is breaking news for you, Sheila, but we'll be, we'll be talking.
00:25:59.760 I think we should have another get together in the next little while and talk about where
00:26:03.100 we're going with this because there's just not enough time in this show.
00:26:05.860 But yeah, there's big things happening in the NFA.
00:26:08.480 Like, like I said, like I mentioned earlier, there's a big thing happening with industry
00:26:12.560 too, and industry, and this is just kind of a sneak peek.
00:26:16.020 Let's get together in a, in a couple of weeks and talk about that because there's some big
00:26:20.580 things happening in the NFA right now.
00:26:22.640 Yeah, definitely.
00:26:23.640 I look forward to that.
00:26:24.920 You guys are not just people who talk about the problem, but you also work on solving the
00:26:30.440 problem, which I think is one of the things we do at Rebel News.
00:26:33.400 Not only do we force a problem, but we get involved in fixing it.
00:26:36.240 So I admire what you're, you're doing there and just some advice to people out there.
00:26:40.340 If you have a liberal MP, write them to look at what's happening right now.
00:26:45.320 We've got them backtracking on the carbon tax.
00:26:47.540 Ruby doll is going to deport everybody.
00:26:50.320 Like if you, they're, they're weak right now.
00:26:53.780 You can get them rattled.
00:26:55.580 And you know, if anything, you just expose them as a bunch of flip floppers, which discredits
00:27:01.140 them in the public.
00:27:01.860 And that's a win too.
00:27:03.940 Yeah, absolutely.
00:27:04.980 And you know what?
00:27:06.660 Education.
00:27:07.560 There's a lot of CPC candidates out there that aren't educated on what firearms are about
00:27:14.840 in Canada.
00:27:16.140 Reach out to these people, educate them.
00:27:18.820 Say, Hey, let's listen.
00:27:20.140 This is my grandfather's model 12 shock and it's third generation.
00:27:23.740 It's been in my house for three generations.
00:27:26.360 The liberals want to take this away from me.
00:27:28.780 It was with, with, with no sense or sensibility of doing it.
00:27:33.000 They just want to take it away from the garner votes, you know, reach out to these people,
00:27:36.800 educate them.
00:27:37.760 That's what the NFA does.
00:27:38.860 We educate people.
00:27:40.240 We offer at the NFA, we offer packages.
00:27:43.820 We offer a complete package of what to do when somebody passes away in your family with firearms.
00:27:49.240 We offer a package on how to get your wilderness carry permit there.
00:27:52.580 We've got a pamphlet out there.
00:27:53.620 We just pushed out a fresh pamphlet, how, what to do if you're a hunter in Canada, whether
00:27:58.800 you're a Canadian resident or a resident or a non-resident, we, we push that package out.
00:28:03.920 We're out on the ground every day doing this stuff.
00:28:06.880 You know, I don't, on our social media, I don't go out there and ask for money.
00:28:11.960 I like to do the work first and say, here, this is what we did.
00:28:16.060 Can you help us out?
00:28:17.160 Instead of pushing money, money, money, you know, and just like the, the appeal on the,
00:28:21.480 on the order of the council case, our lawyer advised us, you know what, you guys are going
00:28:25.520 to win, you guys are going to lose.
00:28:27.220 It's going to cost probably a million and a half dollars.
00:28:29.560 I advise you not to do it.
00:28:31.240 I said right away, we're not going to burn out members resources on something.
00:28:34.480 The lawyer tells us we're going to lose.
00:28:36.100 It doesn't make any sense.
00:28:37.600 We're a non-for-profit organization.
00:28:39.340 We can't afford to pay that kind of money.
00:28:42.060 You know, I like to go up there.
00:28:43.640 We have meetings every couple of weeks.
00:28:45.140 We strategize, how can we help?
00:28:46.920 How can we help gun owners?
00:28:48.580 How can we help hunters?
00:28:49.760 How can we help collectors?
00:28:51.180 Sports shooters is a big thing.
00:28:52.560 We've been working with a lot of sports shooters and it's a big industry in Canada.
00:28:57.160 The tax revenue, when you put all this stuff together is millions, if not billions, but
00:29:02.960 it doesn't matter to the government.
00:29:04.640 Sheila and I spoke about this before.
00:29:06.880 The tax money, this revenue doesn't matter to the liberals.
00:29:11.480 They just spend it.
00:29:12.340 They'll get it some other way through the carbon tax is a great example.
00:29:15.760 Right, right.
00:29:17.020 Exactly.
00:29:17.860 Now, Rick, how do people get involved in the NFA?
00:29:21.380 Not only do you provide all these resources for firearms owners and sports shooters, but
00:29:28.420 you have an incredible merch store.
00:29:30.580 And every time I see you, I think, today's the day I get that jackknife, and then I realize
00:29:35.660 I have to fly.
00:29:38.260 So tell us.
00:29:39.500 Well, there's a, there's a, the best way, become a member.
00:29:44.780 You know what?
00:29:45.300 For $35, the price of a two liter Pepsi and a large pizza, you can become a member of the
00:29:50.960 NFA.
00:29:51.760 Become a member.
00:29:53.100 The money goes into the fight for your freedom and your firearms rights.
00:29:57.920 Follow us on social media.
00:29:59.780 Comment.
00:30:00.280 We're on all the social media platforms.
00:30:02.800 Follow us.
00:30:03.360 Donate.
00:30:05.540 You know, I, again, I hate asking for money, but make some donations because your money
00:30:10.440 goes into the fight.
00:30:12.040 I'll tell you right now, the fight for gun rights and freedom in Canada is not cheap.
00:30:16.820 You know, we have a full-time lobbyist in Ottawa who's one of our paid people.
00:30:20.880 But traveling, we can't.
00:30:23.320 Yeah, lawyers, you know, we, that's another service we offer.
00:30:28.020 We've got, we can advise you on a lawyer in every province.
00:30:30.760 And we've also got the largest case law library of firearms cases in Canada.
00:30:37.760 Reach out to us.
00:30:38.880 Blair will help you.
00:30:39.720 If you have an issue, whether it's noise pollution on a range, you accidentally had,
00:30:44.100 had an accidental discharge in your house.
00:30:46.160 The police seized your firearms because the neighbor red flagged you.
00:30:50.300 We have case law on that.
00:30:51.460 Please reach out to us.
00:30:52.860 You don't have to be a member to reach out.
00:30:55.140 We'd appreciate it if you were, but you don't have to be a member.
00:30:57.820 We're here to help Canadians.
00:30:59.460 We're here to help freedom-loving Canadians.
00:31:02.040 Like Sheila and I, we're passionate about what we do.
00:31:05.500 I don't do this because, number one, definitely not for the money.
00:31:10.700 Number two, I want to keep my guns, but my big thing, and this has always been my thing,
00:31:15.920 I care about the next generation.
00:31:18.460 My kids and kids, and beyond that, I want them to have the same freedoms and rights that we had.
00:31:25.540 And the way the liberals are running this country right now, it's not going to happen.
00:31:30.560 It's coming to the point where people are saying, well, am I going to be able to get out of my house one day
00:31:34.860 to go to the corner store?
00:31:36.320 That's what it's coming to.
00:31:37.340 So get out there, vote, join the NFA, help us out if you can.
00:31:43.080 You know, I appreciate that times are tough right now, but if any little bit helps, you know, it's a big thing.
00:31:50.540 My goal is to have 200,000 members as fast as we can.
00:31:55.960 There's a lot of gun owners out there.
00:31:57.500 Only a small percentage of them are members of an org.
00:32:01.280 Join the NFA.
00:32:02.480 Get out there.
00:32:03.200 Let's get in the fight.
00:32:04.960 We can win.
00:32:05.720 We will win this thing.
00:32:08.080 Yeah.
00:32:08.600 NFA.ca, consider it an investment in your future.
00:32:11.900 Yeah, I think it's over 2.2.
00:32:13.720 It's probably more now.
00:32:14.960 2.2 million Canadians are involved in the shooting sports.
00:32:18.620 That's the largest sport in Canada by the number.
00:32:23.300 It's more than organized hockey.
00:32:25.300 But we don't talk about it because we're scared of having a gun snatched.
00:32:29.680 That's why I said it earlier.
00:32:31.420 Two point something because the real number nobody really knows.
00:32:34.380 Right, right.
00:32:35.400 Yeah, just like the amount of SKSs in Canada.
00:32:38.560 Nobody really knows.
00:32:41.260 We'll say.
00:32:42.340 We won't say.
00:32:43.060 Exactly.
00:32:43.800 Rick, thanks so much for taking the time.
00:32:45.440 Thanks for coming on the show.
00:32:46.480 Thanks for fighting for families just like mine.
00:32:49.680 And we'll have you back on again very soon.
00:32:52.360 Yes.
00:32:52.600 Thank you for having me on your show again, Sheila.
00:32:54.900 It's always a pleasure to do your show.
00:32:57.060 And it's always a pleasure to work with Rebel News at your events across Canada.
00:33:01.280 We get a lot of work done, but we also have a lot of fun attending Rebel when you guys are across Canada.
00:33:07.020 So my word is to everybody out there, get on Rebel News, go to their events.
00:33:12.720 You'll learn a lot.
00:33:13.820 If you're freedom-oriented, you'll learn a lot.
00:33:17.380 Get to a Rebel event as soon as you can, whenever they are, whenever they're happening.
00:33:21.980 And chances are we'll be there.
00:33:23.840 Talk to us.
00:33:24.500 Talk to Sheila.
00:33:25.620 We're all, you know what?
00:33:26.700 I think people need to know we're all accessible.
00:33:29.200 We're not surrounded by security.
00:33:31.940 Anybody can walk up to talk to any one of us anytime.
00:33:35.440 Exactly.
00:33:36.420 Without the people supporting us, we really are nothing.
00:33:39.180 So we make ourselves available to the people.
00:33:41.920 Rick, thanks again.
00:33:43.060 And as I said, we'll have you on again very soon.
00:33:45.220 You've got big things happening at the NFA.
00:33:57.400 Well, we've come to the portion of the show wherein I invite your viewer feedback.
00:34:01.160 If you got viewer feedback from me about the show or any of the work that we do here at Rebel News, send it to me at Sheila at rebelnews.com.
00:34:09.540 Put gun show letters in the subject line so I know exactly why you're emailing me because I do get a fierce amount of emails every single week.
00:34:17.160 But maybe you're watching a clip of a show on YouTube or on Rumble or any of our content.
00:34:25.500 Leave a comment there for a couple of different reasons.
00:34:28.680 The more you engage with our content, the more YouTube shows it to people.
00:34:34.000 It helps us in the algorithm.
00:34:36.060 So if you like it, if you share it, if you leave comments, that helps us out.
00:34:40.120 And that's a great free thing that you can do for us.
00:34:43.200 And I go looking for comments over there.
00:34:45.920 So I appreciate that.
00:34:47.180 And actually, today's comments come from YouTube, the censorship platform of YouTube.
00:34:51.840 But I know some of you still prefer to use YouTube.
00:34:54.800 So I'll go there.
00:34:56.600 But I would prefer if you used Rumble because Rumble won't censor you and we're monetized over there.
00:35:02.640 And this is on my trip to the private helipad and the private airport.
00:35:08.460 When I was in Davos for the World Economic Forum, you see the World Economic Forum tells us we'll own nothing and be happy and that we should all live in our 15 minute cities so that we don't have to expend carbon dioxide into the atmosphere with our daily commutes.
00:35:25.760 Because, you know, it's our SUVs and minivans driving our kids around and going to work.
00:35:31.100 That sort of stuff, they'll have us believe is spelling the end of all mankind.
00:35:37.040 I mean, they said just not all that long ago, we were only had 12 years left before we turned around things.
00:35:45.480 And I think that was like six years ago.
00:35:47.600 So time's running out, folks.
00:35:50.300 Sure, sure.
00:35:51.720 These people are a doomsday cult.
00:35:54.300 But anyway, I wanted to see what you guys thought about my trip to the private airport and the private temporary helipad that takes people from the private airport into Davos because heaven forbid they do the same commute I did to get from the airport to Davos.
00:36:12.320 It's like an hour and a half through the mountains and we wouldn't want anybody to have to experience traveling like a peasant like me.
00:36:22.240 The people who control the world, they don't have to follow our rules.
00:36:26.900 Hazara 26 says, whenever I see these clowns staying in expensive hotels, riding limos and enjoying cocktail parties on taxpayers' money and getting protected by public servants, police and used police as their bodyguards really pisses me off.
00:36:39.300 So, the hypocrisy is outstanding.
00:36:44.980 And that's why we go to Davos, to the World Economic Forum, is because there really aren't any skeptical journalists there.
00:36:52.260 There are journalists who just straight report on the things that are coming out of the World Economic Forum, their policies and their thought bubbles,
00:37:00.260 without actually stopping to point out the problems with those policies on the normal people or the hypocrisy of the people coming up with those policies.
00:37:15.000 And by and large, the other media there are participants in the World Economic Forum.
00:37:21.380 They have pavilions there.
00:37:23.340 When I was at the World Economic Forum, NBC, CNBC, MSNBC, that company, they had taken over the church across the street from the main gates.
00:37:32.660 They were participants.
00:37:34.100 The journalists sit on panels and talk about how we need censorship to fight disinformation.
00:37:39.060 And we go there and we just point out just how ridiculous this all is.
00:37:45.040 That's sort of what I did when I used to go to the UN Climate Change Conferences.
00:37:51.040 I would just walk through and point out all the idling limos with nobody in them all day long.
00:37:58.120 While telling me, again, that driving my kids to sports will cause the oceans to rise.
00:38:10.720 Shockmail3875 says,
00:38:11.680 Are you going to start handing out Xanax with your reports or high blood pressure meds?
00:38:16.160 I'm glad you're doing the reporting and not me because you're way more common professional than I could ever be.
00:38:21.400 Keep up the great job exposing these hypocrites.
00:38:23.420 It is irritating.
00:38:28.520 Don't get me wrong when you're at these events and it feels like you're in the twilight zone because you're thinking,
00:38:38.880 What, doesn't anybody else see this?
00:38:40.460 Like, doesn't anybody else see the you'll own nothing and be happy, live in a 15 minute city to keep your carbon footprint low?
00:38:49.000 Do people flying in on a helicopter, a private helicopter, and landing in the middle of town?
00:38:58.480 It feels crazy.
00:39:00.280 You start to feel like, am I losing my mind?
00:39:03.640 Why doesn't anybody else see this?
00:39:06.860 It's because everybody else, they're true believers.
00:39:09.520 You never see the flaws in your cult leader when you're in the cult.
00:39:11.760 Uh, oh, exactly.
00:39:16.200 Dan K7W8F, if that's even your real name.
00:39:21.600 Uh, he feels the same way I do.
00:39:23.940 Sounds like a science fiction cult.
00:39:25.380 Yeah.
00:39:26.740 Yes, exactly.
00:39:29.040 It is.
00:39:29.560 They don't see it because they're all in the cult.
00:39:31.640 When or if they leave the cult, they might, they'll, their eyes will wake up to it.
00:39:37.960 But, also, you know, at the end of any good doomsday cult, the ones left behind, the ones drinking the poison flavor aid, they're the most radicalized.
00:39:48.400 Everybody else who had, like, a sober second thought, a moment of intellectual independence, they're gone already.
00:39:56.720 The people left behind are the true believers, and they're actually the most dangerous.
00:40:01.580 Um, Jim Everden 2244 says, you can't report on this hypocrisy enough.
00:40:08.500 There's just so many, so many instances of hypocrisy.
00:40:13.520 You know, when I go there with the preconceived notion, although a well-earned preconceived notion that this is an anti-God, anti-human organization,
00:40:23.360 the World Economic Forum, propped up by sycophantic and unskeptical mainstream media reportage,
00:40:32.160 and then I walk up to the gates and I see, at the World Economic Forum, NBC has taken over a church and called it the sanctuary.
00:40:39.020 I mean, it's just, chef's kiss, perfect.
00:40:45.200 It just, it confirms all my existing biases, which is probably not good for me, but it's good to know I'm right about these people.
00:40:53.360 So, uh, and that was my first time in the World Economic Forum, uh, and I'm glad I saw it for myself, that's for sure.
00:41:00.960 And I think we did some great work there.
00:41:02.320 If you want to see and support our journalism, it was a very expensive proposition to go there.
00:41:08.060 Uh, not only is Switzerland a very expensive place, but they just jack everything right up.
00:41:12.820 When you have the richest people in the world flying in on private helicopters and jets, um, you can go to wefreports.com and help us cover those bills because we, I mean, we want to go back next year and we, we want to make sure that we are not bleeding the rest of the company to go back to, uh, report on the World Economic Forum next year.
00:41:34.500 Next year, it will be interesting because these people will have lived with one year of Donald Trump and his anti-globalism agenda.
00:41:44.720 They were sort of shell-shocked when we were there, sullen, but I want to see what stage of the mourning process they are in by next year.
00:41:54.000 Don't you?
00:41:55.280 I would love to report on that.
00:41:56.900 Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.
00:41:58.380 Thank you so much for tuning in.
00:41:59.500 I'll see everybody back here in the same time, in the same place next week.
00:42:02.320 And as always, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.
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