Rebel News Podcast - December 27, 2018


SPECIAL! Marc Morano on the crumbling “consensus” on global warming


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Mark Morano of ClimateDepot shares his thoughts on the year-end review of the United Nation's efforts to address climate change, and why he thinks the pendulum is swinging back in favor of the green agenda.

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00:00:00.000 Tonight, we talked to the boss of ClimateDepot.com, who's been in this business so long, well, by now the earth was supposed to have already burned up.
00:00:09.300 It's December 26th, and this is The Ezra Levant Show.
00:00:18.380 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:00:22.200 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:00:25.900 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.
00:00:28.880 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:00:39.420 Welcome back.
00:00:40.360 Well, as you know, over the Christmas break, we are bringing you long-form interviews, semi-biographical in nature, with some of our favorite newsmakers, pundits, or other fan favorites at The Rebel.
00:00:53.140 And I'm delighted to bring you this interview with Mark Morano.
00:00:57.380 He's the leader of ClimateDepot.com, and we recorded this when he was at the Katowice Conference that the United Nations were having to battle climate change.
00:01:08.000 Mark, great to see you.
00:01:09.140 Thanks for joining us for this year-end interview.
00:01:11.300 Thank you, Ezra.
00:01:13.060 Happy to be here.
00:01:14.080 Well, we're recording this a little bit earlier in the year than we're playing this, so you were still in Poland at the UN Conference.
00:01:21.300 I'd like to talk a little bit about that and the year-end review and what you make of the big trends,
00:01:28.260 because there was a while there when Barack Obama was in the White House and when Justin Trudeau had just been elected in Canada and Emmanuel Macron in Paris,
00:01:38.660 where the world seemed to be going full speed towards the Al Gore model.
00:01:46.420 Cap and trade, carbon taxes, banning coal, banning fracking.
00:01:50.860 Guys like you and me were on the retreat.
00:01:55.380 Here we are three years later.
00:01:56.900 I think the pendulum is swinging back.
00:01:59.080 What do you think?
00:02:01.020 What a difference this year makes, is all I can say.
00:02:04.620 I mean, when you look back at what's happened here, you had—let's go back to 2015, December, within the UN-Paris agreement.
00:02:12.060 All they talked about was how we've saved the world.
00:02:15.900 This is the greatest achievement.
00:02:17.120 Humanities come together.
00:02:18.320 Al Gore praised it.
00:02:19.340 John Kerry brought his granddaughter to the signing ceremony at the United Nations building because of the importance of it.
00:02:27.480 Now, fast forward to 2018.
00:02:29.260 As the year comes to a close, what do we find?
00:02:31.840 The United Nations is admitting that the goals set forth by the UN-Paris agreement are woefully inadequate, not even close to meeting the demands of their own scientists, which are creating this alarm.
00:02:46.240 So the UN admits that Paris was a fraud, was a joke, and did not solve anything as they had originally claimed.
00:02:55.160 That's point one.
00:02:55.940 Point two is they came up with a new goal from the 2 degrees Celsius.
00:03:01.820 They now ratcheted it down in 2018 by the IPCC report of 1.5 degrees Celsius.
00:03:08.840 And they announced that no one's on track to meet it.
00:03:11.840 And at the 2018 UN Climate Summit in Poland, the UN chief, Chief Gutierrez, actually said it is immoral and suicidal not to follow and to ramp up our efforts on climate change.
00:03:27.860 So we went from we've solved the problem to we are great, humanity came together, to now we are committing suicide and we're being immoral because we're nowhere near meeting the goals and the UN-Paris agreement was pathetic.
00:03:40.480 That is where we are.
00:03:42.380 It is profound.
00:03:43.660 It is shocking.
00:03:44.880 And it exposes the UN as a very poor, partisan, lobbying group, self-interested, but not even good at what they do.
00:03:54.800 Yeah.
00:03:55.060 You know, sometimes it's frustrating because when you look at the media, or as I call it, the media party, because on certain issues they act like a political party pushing a certain agenda.
00:04:06.600 They're not true reporters, and I think global warming and carbon taxes is one of those issues.
00:04:11.560 All they do are cover professional protesters, whether it's Greenpeace or the various Canadian manifestations of Tides money or Rockefeller Brothers Fund money.
00:04:22.660 They talk to big ticket donors like Tom Steyer of California and Al Gore.
00:04:26.480 And they have this whole Potemkin village, as it could be called, all these actors, all of whom are paid.
00:04:34.940 And if all you see is that is that scripted actors, really, you think, well, the whole world believes in this.
00:04:43.080 Am I the only madman?
00:04:44.500 Everyone else thinks this is normal.
00:04:46.160 And then something shocking happened, and it really is shocking, the anti-carbon tax riots in France.
00:04:56.280 And by the way, I don't believe in violence, obviously, and I know you don't either.
00:05:00.640 But for it to get that bad, where grassroots people don't feel that they have a manifestation of their views in the political system, in the media system, in the legal system, in the diplomatic system, they feel that they are pushed to violence.
00:05:16.600 That is a shocking proof of the disconnect between the elites.
00:05:20.660 And you're right there, we're having this interview, you're at the UN convention right now.
00:05:24.900 The fancy elites jet-setting, blazing lights from carbon fuels, because they're important people, but the little people have to endure energy poverty, have to turn down their thermostat in the winter.
00:05:37.900 Those carbon riots undo the entire propaganda lie in my mind.
00:05:45.360 They prove that no one believes this Al Gore cult.
00:05:49.740 That's my thesis.
00:05:50.800 What do you think of that?
00:05:52.280 Yes, I mean, you're absolutely right.
00:05:55.220 2018, everything I said before, the number one thing that we remember to is the Yellow Vest Climate Tax Rebellion in Paris, in France, which has then spread across Europe, and I believe it's going to come to Poland.
00:06:07.960 We actually have the Yellow Vests on here.
00:06:10.580 We've won and we've got them around Poland.
00:06:11.860 And I think what this shows is that if you actually take what the United Nations wants to do seriously, and I'm not even talking about current UN projections, I'm talking about three years ago, which the UN says now is woefully inadequate.
00:06:26.080 But if you just go with that, you will face a rebellion of your own people.
00:06:30.880 Emmanuel Macron, the president of France, is the face of the UN climate tax failure.
00:06:36.760 And there's no other way 2018 can be looked at without that stark reality.
00:06:41.840 Even the mainstream media gets it.
00:06:44.580 Now, the spin on that is going to be very similar to the spin about the Eastern Bloc, Soviet states.
00:06:50.180 Well, yeah, socialism didn't actually fail.
00:06:52.020 It wasn't done correctly.
00:06:53.280 So now you have the liberal media, particularly in the Washington, in America, saying, well, President Macron didn't go about it correctly.
00:07:00.380 He should have phased it in.
00:07:01.660 He should have made sure the poor, they should have transferred wealth differently. 0.71
00:07:04.700 What they're going to do is try to say the climate taxes weren't imposed correctly, and they're going to then say they're going to then look at longer time scales, more redistribution schemes, and they're going to come up with all kinds of ways to try to mitigate it.
00:07:19.400 But the bottom line is this.
00:07:20.720 The public ain't buying it.
00:07:22.660 France can't save the world by taxing truck drivers or seeing the poor, the middle class on fuel. 0.61
00:07:29.860 It's not going to happen.
00:07:31.000 And you know why I can say that?
00:07:32.300 Because even though you don't have to be a skeptic, just listen to the United Nations.
00:07:35.960 They now admit their goals were completely wrong, unattainable, and the key country that's announcing our withdrawal, the United States, is doing better than all the European signatories, which are looking their noses down at the United States for not being in the Paris Agreement.
00:07:51.500 Yeah.
00:07:51.700 Well, I mean, there was one very memorable moment because it had a little bit of alliteration.
00:07:57.800 But also, it was just, it perfectly summed up Donald Trump on climate.
00:08:03.820 And I'm going to play a very short clip here.
00:08:05.680 It's when Trump announced that he was withdrawing the United States, at least serving notice of withdrawing the United States, from this UN global warming scheme.
00:08:16.180 And he made the announcement in Pennsylvania, which, of course, is a coal state.
00:08:21.200 But increasingly, it's a fracking state for oil and especially natural gas.
00:08:26.940 200,000 new jobs in Pennsylvania from fracking.
00:08:31.040 Average household pays $1,000 a year less for energy than they did before fracking.
00:08:37.220 Like, it's just a win-win-win.
00:08:39.060 Cheaper energy, lots of jobs.
00:08:41.000 And of course, when you're talking about the United States, now it's energy independent.
00:08:44.220 Here's a very quick clip of Trump making that announcement.
00:08:48.720 I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris.
00:08:56.820 Mark, I love that, that I represent Pittsburgh, not Paris.
00:09:01.800 Yes.
00:09:02.600 We're doing this interview a little bit, a few days before we're airing it, when you're still at the UN conference.
00:09:09.320 How many people at that conference you're at could say, I represent Korea, not the UN.
00:09:16.800 I represent, you know, Finland, not the UN.
00:09:21.040 Like, when you are at that UN, it's like something changes in your mind and you forget where you're from and you forget your responsibility to your people.
00:09:29.000 You don't.
00:09:29.500 I'm not talking about you, but most of the delegates there, they think they're citizens of the world, that they're unfettered by any democratic accountability.
00:09:40.560 People there have forgotten that they represent their cities, towns, and countries.
00:09:44.060 They think they're part of this new Star Trek-like international federation or something.
00:09:50.540 Now, interestingly enough, the developing poor nations are there to represent their countries, but they're there for the climate cash that's been promised to them.
00:09:59.660 Hundreds of billions of dollars, the climate fund.
00:10:02.920 And they're going to use that money for re-election, to build monuments, ensure their re-election, and they'll get more money the more they keep their people down.
00:10:10.800 But you're absolutely right.
00:10:12.300 The other countries, something happens to them.
00:10:14.240 You get zombified when you come here because you start having – you realize in your mind the media, the UN delegates, the bureaucrats all expect me to pay lip service to this climate crisis.
00:10:24.860 But we're seeing a lot of resistance this year.
00:10:27.700 As I mentioned, Saudi Arabia, you have Brazil, you have Poland even resisting with that.
00:10:34.180 So I think where leadership comes in, eventually China, Russia, and a lot of other adversaries of the United States are going to say,
00:10:42.620 why are we playing this game with the United Nations when the U.S. is thumbing their nose?
00:10:46.440 And that's part of Donald Trump's negotiating strategy to break apart this process, basically saying, we're not going to abide, you have fun dealing with the UN bureaucrats.
00:10:56.420 How long are Russia and all these other countries going to do it?
00:11:00.060 We're already seeing the break this year, and it's a wonderful thing to see.
00:11:04.620 And hopefully countries will start getting more and more of their self-interest and their nationalist pride back in rejecting this UN agenda.
00:11:13.160 You know, when I wrote my book, Ethical Oil, almost 10 years ago, I made the case for Canada's oil sands.
00:11:22.960 And I wasn't that aware of the fracking revolution in the United States.
00:11:26.480 In fact, it really hadn't kicked in to high gear.
00:11:29.660 And when I wrote that book, Mark, I thought, well, the United States is always going to need some oil imports,
00:11:35.640 but Mexico is declining and the North Sea is declining, so the oil sands are the obvious answer.
00:11:41.180 And that was absolutely true when I wrote the book, but because of environmental activists and Rachel Notley and Justin Trudeau,
00:11:48.480 the oil sands expansion has been slowed to a crawl.
00:11:52.040 But America didn't wait for Canada to get its act together.
00:11:56.540 America went full tilt on the fracking.
00:11:59.100 And now that Obama's gone, Donald Trump opened up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge for oil,
00:12:04.100 opened up oil exporting opportunities.
00:12:06.180 I saw a headline for the first time this week, Mark, that the United States for one week in November was a net oil exporter.
00:12:18.480 America is now a net energy exporter.
00:12:20.520 Yeah.
00:12:21.140 But a net oil exporter.
00:12:23.200 It actually sold more oil to foreigners, including Canada, than it bought from foreigners.
00:12:29.640 I never thought that would be possible, but it's not just possible, it's happened now.
00:12:36.020 Yeah, now keep in mind, even when we had George W. Bush, he tried to be pro-energy,
00:12:39.520 but he could never get Arctic drilling, he could never get a lot of this stuff passed.
00:12:44.860 But because even now in many states, in Colorado, other places, Democratic governors realize this importance of American energy
00:12:52.340 and you have Donald Trump worried about trade deficits.
00:12:56.360 So this is all going with Donald Trump's philosophy to export more than you import.
00:13:01.540 And I think America is becoming just more and more dominant with energy.
00:13:05.780 And I think it can only get higher because what Donald Trump's done, not just regulatorily, it's a mindset.
00:13:11.720 It's a goal.
00:13:12.900 No longer are we demonizing that energy at the highest levels of government.
00:13:16.360 We're praising it and coming to a U.N. conference, praising carbon-based energy, oil, gas, coal.
00:13:22.460 And it's just wonderful to see that has a residual effect.
00:13:25.600 And I think that's why we're seeing countries like Saudi Arabia now saying,
00:13:29.340 I'm not signing on to this U.N. report.
00:13:31.660 Get away from me.
00:13:32.380 How long is it going to be before other countries start joining them?
00:13:35.100 They're not going to want their rear ends kicked by the United States.
00:13:38.100 Yeah.
00:13:38.480 You know, it is so incredible.
00:13:41.580 And, you know, Venezuela, the largest oil reserves in the world, even larger than Saudi Arabia.
00:13:49.180 Most people don't know that.
00:13:50.340 But Venezuela actually has more proven reserves than the Saudis.
00:13:54.320 And yet last month, the little state of North Dakota, population 800,000, produced more oil than Venezuela.
00:14:02.000 And that is a combination of ingenuity and technology, fracking, and freedom, and a pro-energy president.
00:14:10.700 And, of course, it was still doing well before Trump, but it's never been higher.
00:14:16.540 And there's something amazing that America has increased its oil in 20%.
00:14:21.400 And I'm not just praising America, because I know Canada could do that, too.
00:14:25.480 What scares me, Mark, and I know this is less important from the global scheme of things,
00:14:29.400 but I'm a Canadian, I love Canada, I'm from Alberta originally, the oil province of our country.
00:14:35.660 And I'm, as you and I talk about America's great energy successes,
00:14:41.020 and how coal is coming back, and Arctic drilling, and fracking, and exporting,
00:14:45.240 I'm thrilled for the world, I'm thrilled for America, but I'm also sad that maybe we missed our moment.
00:14:50.740 Now, we can have a good future, but I feel like this should be us.
00:14:55.280 This should be us celebrating record oil production.
00:14:58.720 This should be us looking at oil getting on tanker ships in Vancouver,
00:15:03.140 selling it to India, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, to displace OPEC conflict oil.
00:15:09.600 I feel like maybe Canada missed the moment, and I say that with great sorrow.
00:15:15.220 Well, maybe, as an American, I'd love to see Ford come in and replace Justin Trudeau.
00:15:20.700 What are the odds of that happening?
00:15:21.800 Could you have a Canadian Trump someday come in and join forces with the United States
00:15:27.820 in this great pro-energy, pro-freedom revolution?
00:15:31.780 Well, I mean, in Canada, we have the situation in Quebec,
00:15:35.240 you have to pretty much be able to speak French to be the prime minister,
00:15:38.660 and I don't think Doug Ford knows any French at all.
00:15:42.480 But yeah, I love Doug Ford, and he's pro-pipeline.
00:15:45.460 Who knows? That was sort of a personal musing, because watching America become energy independent,
00:15:53.220 in my mind, and in my book, Ethical Oil, the dream was the oil sands displaces OPEC.
00:15:59.060 But in reality, Texas, North Dakota, and other American states have displaced OPEC,
00:16:07.200 and that's wonderful for Americans, and we love America,
00:16:09.380 and it's wonderful for America's political independence,
00:16:13.220 because when you're over a barrel that the Saudis control,
00:16:16.360 they control much more than economics, they control your politics.
00:16:19.840 Let me ask you about the permanence of this, because you and I are both Trump fans.
00:16:26.020 Trump might not be re-elected in 2020. I hope he is.
00:16:30.020 Trump just lost control of the Congress, the House of Representatives,
00:16:33.360 and they'll be sworn in next, in a couple weeks.
00:16:39.420 Is the best over?
00:16:41.900 Is the Trump success now pretty much set, and the Democrats will try to erode it?
00:16:48.800 What can we look at for the next two years, and for the 2020 presidential election?
00:16:54.320 Will energy policy stay where it is?
00:16:57.180 Well, you know, I think we should end on a high note.
00:16:59.840 I don't want to answer that, so good night, everyone. Good night.
00:17:01.640 I know. It's a tough one. You're kind of depressing me now, but here's the bottom line.
00:17:07.900 President Trump is now going to face a hostile Congress,
00:17:11.680 and what that means is the media is going to even ramp up more.
00:17:15.880 There's talk of a new global warming climate panel.
00:17:18.380 There's going to be all sorts of symbolic legislation to reverse a lot of the stuff Trump's done,
00:17:23.100 put pressure on EPA to re-regulate climate regulations, to repeal Arctic drilling.
00:17:31.640 And there's also going to be talk of this Green New Deal, which is actually,
00:17:36.260 and I'm actually going to have a special report on this soon.
00:17:39.540 It is about 80% non-environment and climate-related, or energy-related.
00:17:43.920 It's all about health care, college education, all sorts of the socialist agenda wrapped into one,
00:17:50.160 with mentions of energy and environmental regulation.
00:17:52.660 That's what we're going to hear about for the next two years.
00:17:55.640 I don't think they can undo anything Donald Trump's done in two years,
00:17:58.640 but it does mean that Donald Trump has probably done 80% or 90% of what he can do in the first two years,
00:18:06.420 and the next two years are going to be a stay of the course.
00:18:09.440 I didn't expect a lot of more ambitious rollbacks or changes.
00:18:13.960 The only thing you can really do is executive order at this point on these issues.
00:18:17.660 So it really comes down to the 2020 election, and you use the word permanence,
00:18:22.320 which is why I wanted to end on a high note and almost said goodbye here.
00:18:25.160 But the problem is if a Democrat were to be elected, I'm not going to lie,
00:18:30.620 about a year or a year and a half, everything Donald Trump could be done could be almost undone,
00:18:35.520 because what Obama did was through executive order, what Trump did was back through executive order,
00:18:40.460 and we'd need some legislative things to have to happen, but it could very easily be undone,
00:18:46.020 and we could be right back on that path where we were when President Obama left office.
00:18:51.220 So to answer your question, it remains to be seen.
00:18:54.880 It's an open question how permanent.
00:18:57.020 But let's enjoy it while it lasts.
00:18:58.560 It's Christmas. It's the holiday season.
00:19:00.900 Who wants to think about that? Come on.
00:19:02.760 This is failure. Let's celebrate the failure of the United Nations.
00:19:06.800 Well, let me play one more clip for you, and it'll bring back nightmares.
00:19:11.740 It'll bring back bad memories, but it'll also allow us to realize the bullet we all dodged
00:19:18.460 when 60-plus million of your countrymen voted for Trump instead of for this lady,
00:19:26.200 who was talking about putting coal miners out of work.
00:19:29.700 Here's Hillary Clinton at a town hall meeting running for president in 2016. 1.00
00:19:35.420 This was when she had yet to secure the Democratic nomination.
00:19:40.440 And she was asked about working-class men in Pennsylvania or West Virginia,
00:19:45.620 and she said, sorry, they're going to be out of work.
00:19:48.120 So here's a quick clip from that.
00:19:49.800 I'm the only candidate which has a policy about how to bring economic opportunity
00:19:55.560 using clean, renewable energy as the key into coal country,
00:20:00.160 because we're going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business. 0.78
00:20:05.280 Mark, that's a reminder of why Hillary Clinton lost the Rust Belt. 1.00
00:20:10.440 Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, West Virginia.
00:20:14.760 I mean, West Virginia is the most pro-Trump state.
00:20:16.700 That was never in question.
00:20:18.440 But a lot of those Midwest states, they didn't want to roll over and die yet.
00:20:24.520 They didn't want to say, well, steel is gone, autos are gone.
00:20:27.800 They said, well, let's give this Trump guy a chance.
00:20:31.000 My question for you is, and I'm asking you to use your prediction, your crystal ball,
00:20:37.100 so I know this is just guesswork here, but maybe you can indulge me.
00:20:40.380 Given the blue-collar success of Trump, which is digging up turf that has voted Democrat for a generation,
00:20:51.340 do you think that the 2020 Democrat candidate, whoever he or she is,
00:20:57.180 will make that same calculation that Hillary Clinton has, that Tom Steyer of California has,
00:21:03.420 that Al Gore has, which is, I want to go for the hip, urban, woke voter, the Alexandria Cortez voter,
00:21:14.800 you know, activist, grievance studies voter, and to heck with working men and women. 0.79
00:21:20.060 Do you think they'll make the same calculation that Hillary Clinton did and run against in the industrial heartland?
00:21:27.880 Because you and I talked about the ease of revoking the legislative successes of Trump.
00:21:33.940 Fine.
00:21:34.660 But once you do that, do these Democrats have the chutzpah to say,
00:21:39.780 we're actually going to shut down coal mines.
00:21:43.480 We're actually going to shut down oil rigs.
00:21:45.400 We're actually going to shut down this energy boom.
00:21:47.920 Not just a piece of paper, but we're going to tell hundreds of thousands of American women,
00:21:52.260 you have to lose your jobs because of my ideology.
00:21:56.580 Will they do that again?
00:21:59.500 It's a very good, it's a schism of the Democratic Party.
00:22:02.100 First of all, just to refresh, black unemployment, Hispanic unemployment, 0.80
00:22:07.260 and American overall unemployment at record lows since the records really,
00:22:11.180 reliable records of the 1960s.
00:22:13.000 That's what this has done.
00:22:14.360 I mean, it is unleashed in America that no one's seen since records began in among black and Hispanics. 1.00
00:22:20.100 So the question is, where does the Democratic Party go?
00:22:22.680 That's the larger question.
00:22:23.780 Do they go the socialist Bernie Sanders, Cortez, Octavia Cortez route?
00:22:29.160 Or do they go, you know, a Beto O'Rourke from Texas who tries to be more moderate,
00:22:34.040 and he comes from an energy state?
00:22:36.180 They'd probably be more effective going with a Beto O'Rourke,
00:22:39.060 but I don't know that they're going to be able to.
00:22:41.460 I think they're going to do what Hillary did, and maybe a step beyond,
00:22:45.200 by not even trying to smooth over the socialist edges.
00:22:48.460 Because the Democratic Party, in large part, is energized now by this avowed socialist movement.
00:22:54.680 It used to be socialism was a bad word, even in Democrat circles.
00:22:57.660 Not anymore.
00:22:58.760 So I can't imagine this message playing well in Michigan, in Wisconsin, in Ohio,
00:23:04.060 all these key states where Trump did very well last time.
00:23:07.220 But it's a question of you don't know who the nominee is yet.
00:23:09.840 And the only other negative I'd say for Donald Trump is he probably,
00:23:14.300 as we get closer to the election, should tone it down a little bit
00:23:17.940 because you don't want to energize the other side, but he needs to keep his base active.
00:23:22.060 It was okay to do that for a midterm, but for the general election,
00:23:25.360 I think he needs to make an overt outreach to African-Americans.
00:23:29.540 He had Kanye West and the NFL legend Jim Brown in the White House.
00:23:33.060 He needs to build upon that.
00:23:34.320 We had the NBA star, what's his name, who likes the North Korean dictator,
00:23:41.560 Dennis Rodman, actually wearing a Trump hat at one point.
00:23:45.180 This is a big deal when you couple that.
00:23:47.760 So I think Donald Trump in the next year and a half has to have a strategy
00:23:50.540 to court African-Americans, and I think he could be quite successful if he does.
00:23:55.000 I got one last question for you.
00:23:56.900 I saw a headline the other day in the CBC that made me laugh.
00:24:00.920 They said that we have 12 years to save the planet, and it was very precise.
00:24:07.660 It wasn't 11 years.
00:24:09.460 It wasn't 13 years.
00:24:11.860 It was 12 years, and I just thought, well, that's a pretty precise calculation.
00:24:17.000 But we've heard that sort of warning endlessly.
00:24:21.400 We have 20 years.
00:24:22.360 We have until the year 2000.
00:24:23.940 We have until the year 2010.
00:24:25.780 And a good doomsday message is far enough into the future that you're not going to be
00:24:34.660 held accountable, but close enough that it sounds urgent.
00:24:38.420 Like a true huckster knows you're not going to say the earth is going to end next week
00:24:43.300 because the moment of truth comes too quickly.
00:24:45.580 You don't want to say the world's going to end in a thousand years because no one cares.
00:24:49.120 So they've chosen 12 years, and I just love the precision of that.
00:24:53.460 But the problem is they've been saying 12 years now for many years.
00:24:58.600 I mean, I forget the exact year that Al Gore's movie came out.
00:25:02.680 It was probably about 12 years ago.
00:25:04.500 So my question is for young people, millennials, the most skeptical generation, the most cynical
00:25:10.080 generation, the most media savvy generation into trolling, into memes, into irony.
00:25:17.900 I mean, do they believe these boomers like Tom Steyer and Al Gore with their billions or hundreds
00:25:26.600 of millions jet-setting around?
00:25:29.560 You and I are a certain vintage.
00:25:31.460 I think we're in our 40s, late 40s.
00:25:33.500 Do you think high school kids, college kids, millennials, generation Y or Z, do they believe
00:25:43.260 this show-and-tell, this we're all going to die in 12 years?
00:25:48.460 Or do they say, you're just lying to me, just shut up?
00:25:52.400 Are they believers like the boomers, or are they skeptics? 0.96
00:25:57.360 Unfortunately, I think a lot of them are believers, because this is the first generation from 1.00
00:26:04.080 kindergarten through college has been indoctrinated.
00:26:07.040 Now, they might reject the hysteria, the tipping points, but I don't think they challenge the
00:26:11.920 premise.
00:26:12.340 I think they just think, oh, yeah, all scientists agree, and it's bad.
00:26:15.540 The good news is they generally don't vote that much, and they're not that politically
00:26:18.760 active, which I think is good, because we don't want that kind of ignorance voting, necessarily.
00:26:23.800 But I've noticed, even talking to college crowds, we have a collegiate division, and
00:26:29.620 over the last five years, the crowds have become just more brainwashed, is the word I
00:26:35.140 would use, on this climate narrative.
00:26:37.480 It doesn't mean they're more active.
00:26:39.120 It just means they're like, oh, yeah, it must be true, because that's all I've ever heard.
00:26:43.000 But it's funny you mention the tipping points.
00:26:45.120 That 12-year figure is directly out of the new UN report from October that the Trump administration,
00:26:50.960 Saudi Arabia, Russia, Kuwait, have rejected and not accepted this time around.
00:26:55.640 They just, and Tom Steyer's been touting it all over this.
00:26:59.440 Mark, we had a bit of a hiccup there in our Skype connection.
00:27:02.040 I'm so grateful to you for joining us for this year in review, though.
00:27:05.700 And it was more of like five years in review and five years ahead.
00:27:09.440 Last word to you.
00:27:11.160 End on a hopeful note.
00:27:12.680 I mean, we talked about Hillary and Tom Steyer and the Democrats and millennial brainwashing.
00:27:17.240 But if there was one thing you wanted to leave our viewers with over the Christmas break,
00:27:21.240 one reason that we should be optimistic, give us that now.
00:27:25.800 The best reason is what happened in France.
00:27:29.660 The climate tax rebellion gives hope to humanity that a politician can't tell its people,
00:27:35.940 we will double, triple your fuel prices in order to, quote, save the world, unquote,
00:27:41.340 and make the world safe for your great-grandchildren 100 years from now,
00:27:45.020 based on the United Nations science.
00:27:47.720 People aren't buying it.
00:27:49.160 People don't care.
00:27:50.320 That gives me great hope for humanity.
00:27:52.960 If France can turn against it and the rebellion spreads, that's fantastic.
00:27:57.220 I'm optimistic by the number of countries now willing to stand up to the United Nations.
00:28:02.960 And so that is huge from where we were two years ago, five years ago, ten years ago.
00:28:08.580 No one ever questioned the UN, not Republican presidents.
00:28:11.860 No other leaders have done it.
00:28:13.240 So it's now an open season on the United Nations climate panel, and that needs to continue.
00:28:19.040 And I see that continuing into 2019.
00:28:22.000 And there's no better reason to ring in the new year with the decline of the United Nations climate claims.
00:28:29.000 Outstanding.
00:28:29.840 Mark Marano, thanks so much for joining us today at some length.
00:28:33.360 And as you do so often throughout the year, and I'm so grateful that this year you were there at the Climate Change Conference with our own Sheila Gunn-Reed.
00:28:43.520 And I look forward to a great 2019 with you.
00:28:46.660 Thanks very much and all the best to you, my friend.
00:28:48.420 Thank you, Ezra.
00:28:50.100 I appreciate it.
00:28:50.820 My pleasure.
00:28:51.500 Well, that's our friend Mark Marano from climatedepot.com.
00:28:54.480 When we recorded that a little bit earlier this year, as you could see, he was still at the UN conference in Poland.
00:29:02.700 That's our show for today.
00:29:04.080 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, good night and keep fighting for freedom.
00:29:09.420 We'll see you next time.