The 3 real reasons Toronto gang violence is out of control (Guest host： Sheila Gunn Reid)
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Mayor John Tory says he s been doing everything he can to stem the tide of gun violence washing through Toronto s streets. But has Tory really been focusing his efforts and his resources in the right direction? Ezra Levant explains why.
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It's the summer of the Gun 2.0 in Toronto, and Mayor John Tory said that he's been doing
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everything he can to stem the tide of gun violence washing through Toronto's streets.
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But has Tory really been focusing his efforts and his resources in the right direction?
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It's July 20th, 2018. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.
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Gang violence is out of control in Toronto. As I'm recording this, there have been 220 shootings so far in Toronto this year.
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Now, I've got theories about how this gang violence got so far out of control.
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I think it was a perfect storm. Equal parts lack of foresight, a politically correct mayor who cowered to political pressure from anti-police groups,
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a refusal by police administration to acknowledge a problem was happening at all,
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and a mayor that would rather suck up to the Trudeau liberals than take the steps he needs to to keep his community safe.
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In 2017, as gun violence was maintaining its upward trend from the atrocious year before,
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Toronto, at least according to the Police Association, was down about 500 cops from their usual staffing levels.
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The Police Association was saying that the police were overburdened, overworked, they couldn't keep up.
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Now, there had been a hiring freeze on the police for a couple of years by then,
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and only after the deadly summer of 2017 did Tory finally agree to hire just 80 more cops to supplant the officers leaving the force to retirement.
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Of all the things that Toronto blows taxpayer money on, they were sure tight-fisted with the police.
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They were in the middle of a violent crime wave, and yet Tory okayed the police to hire just 80 cops to replace some old-timers on their way out.
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It wasn't good enough. It wasn't enough planning.
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But why, in 2017, was Tory so averse to hiring cops in the first place?
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Well, that's the second part of the perfect storm of Toronto,
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where the problem of having a politically correct mayor comes into play.
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Tory was scared helpless of the anti-police wackos in Black Lives Matter.
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Tory ended the police carding policy, which allowed Toronto police to routinely and randomly stop citizens
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and then record personal information, because activists like those in Black Lives Matter said
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carding disproportionately targeted the city's Black community.
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Now, the information garnered through carding was kept on record for an undetermined amount of time,
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but it was easily available for police to access in investigations.
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It was a valuable intel tool for police that was used to keep the Black community safe.
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But Tory ended it because of pressure from BLM and to be politically correct,
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and now the Black community is paying the price for it all.
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And at the behest of BLM, Toronto police were banned from attending the Pride Parade.
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BLM insisted police were oppressive, part of systemic anti-Black racism.
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And yet, even after that, Tory thought the anti-police BLM had done good work
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to shine a light on racism, I guess, through their constant public tantrums and anti-police rhetoric.
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That had to set a tone for police morale when their mayor sides with anti-police activists.
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Which brings us to the failure by officials to even acknowledge
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that a problem was unfolding in Toronto in the first place.
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In 2016, people were starting to wonder if Toronto was in the middle of a replay of the 2005
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In 2016, from January to June, there were 21 fatal shootings in Toronto.
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People were starting to wonder if they were headed into yet another Summer of the Gun in Toronto streets.
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And not just any people were wondering, experts.
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Toronto Police Association President Mike McCormick tweeted then,
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Year of the Gun, the sequel, 25 shooting deaths January to July 2005, 23 shooting deaths year to date in 2017,
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including three dead and five injured in three days.
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Toronto Police spokesman Mark Pugash, though, he didn't think there was any relevance in comparing
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I don't know what benefit there is to comparing where we are today to 12 years ago, Pugash was quoted as saying in the Toronto Sun.
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But when we're looking at just the raw data, the shooting rate for 2017 was the same as 2016 at 286 and 285 respectively.
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In 2015, there were 255 shootings and just 123 in 2014.
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There was a frightening upward trend in shootings that should have set alarm bells off all over the place.
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But it was actively being downplayed, at least in the media by police administration.
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Tory sucked up to the Liberals to be liked by the media.
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And now he's living with the consequences of those failed social policies.
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John Tory's a big fan of the Liberals' supervised drug injection sites.
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But here's the thing about having junkies congregate in certain locations around your city.
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Guess who's big into the drug dealing business?
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And when you create supervised drug injection sites, you're creating a big fat welcome sign for gangs to move in.
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And speaking of welcome signs, Tory's also a big fan of Justin Trudeau's welcome to Canada tweet.
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It welcomed every self-deporting illegal migrant from the United States to seek safe haven in Toronto.
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And I'm not even saying that illegal migrants are part of the gang problem.
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In fact, American intelligence agencies in 2017 warned us that Somalis with criminal records were coming across into Canada and claiming asylum to avoid prosecution.
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The Americans said that these criminals would pose security threats to us here in Canada.
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And just this week, Justin Trudeau shuffled his cabinet and created a new ministry.
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One that specifically deals with border security and gangs.
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So even the federal government thinks the two issues are intrinsically linked.
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But at its most basic, when you advocate for open borders, and you know what John Tory does?
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Here's a picture of him standing in front of a podium with open borders written on the poster just below him.
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You can't control what's coming into the country.
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And if people can certainly just walk across the border, you know what?
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And when the Liberals proposed a gun and gang summit under the alleged guise of dealing with the problems of Toronto,
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Tory jumped at the chance to help the Liberals use the gang violence in his city as the next reason to strip gun rights away from innocent legal gun owners all across the country.
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When Tory was given the chance at the gun and gang summit to ask for federal help combating the gangs running rampant in Toronto, Tory took a hardline stance, that's for sure.
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But against lawful Canadian firearms owners that he accused of domestically trafficking firearms to the gangs infesting his city.
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According to the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights, who were actually at the summit, Tory blamed Canadian gun owners for the gun crime in Toronto.
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The CCFR quoted Tory as throwing out strange statistics that there had been an incredible jump in the number of domestically sourced firearms being used in crimes.
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The CCFR said Tory stated that 50% of guns used in crime come from within Canada, implying gun owners are selling their legally obtained firearms to gang members and to criminals.
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Tory has subhuman monsters, the kind that gun down little girls as they play, roaming the streets of his city.
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And he was asking the government to come after me and millions of other highly vetted law-abiding Canadian citizens.
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And of course, out of that summit came the Liberals' new gun control bill, C-71.
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It outlaws two long guns, the CZ858 and the Swiss Arms Green Carbine, guns that are not used by Toronto's gangsters.
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And now I have to report to some bureaucrat in a cubicle somewhere if I were to use a handgun at the range, which is the only place I'm legally allowed to use it anyway.
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It doesn't really matter how bad it gets in Toronto, because Tory doesn't have to live with the mess he let happen in Toronto if he doesn't really want to.
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You see, Tory has a home in an exclusive gated community in Florida.
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It's called Lost Tree Village, where Tory's neighbours include Home Depot founder Ken Langone and billionaire hedge fund investors.
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It's a place where security guards carry guns Tory says I shouldn't have to keep him safe in his bed at night.
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I think a lot of the problem with what's happening in Toronto is that politicians are talking about what police need to do
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to curb the rising tide of violence in Toronto communities.
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And they're not talking enough to police officers who don't have political aspirations,
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but police officers who want to just do their job and make their community safer.
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So I thought, what a great opportunity to have an actual former police officer on the show.
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He's a former RCMP officer and a Vancouver Police Service member.
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I wanted to talk to you about some of the implications that it has for police when politicians sort of play politics with their job.
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For example, John Tory has come out against carding, which I think is a valuable tool for police to gain intel into gang membership.
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And he's also come out in strong support of open borders and sanctuary cities.
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And for me, I think both of those things can be an organized crime draw
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when there's expected to be a blind eye turned by policing to these issues.
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Well, in the first instance, carding is nothing new.
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It used to be done back in the old days, literally on the index cards that were filed in the records office.
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And if you come across somebody in the street, you fill out a very small bit of information,
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name, address, date of birth, and description, and what the contact reason was for.
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It's a way of gathering intelligence and it's a way of retroactively solving crimes.
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If something happens in a particular neighborhood and you go through the cards
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and you find out that, oh, so-and-so was actually there five minutes before, ten minutes before,
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you know, then you can use that as an investigative tool to go and try and solve a particular event.
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Now, activist groups like Black Lives Matter, they've come out and said that carding is racist
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because it's, you know, they say it targets visible minorities for police harassment.
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Well, I think it ignores the elephant in the room, which is the vast majority of violent crime is committed by the gangs.
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And in Toronto, the gangs are primarily black gangs.
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You know, you can dance around that all you want, but that's reality.
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Now, we've just seen reports out of Baltimore that police have basically stopped policing
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since their city council has cozied up to anti-police activists in Black Lives Matter.
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I'm concerned, given John Tory's sort of cozy relationship with Black Lives Matter,
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that we might be seeing some of that happen in Toronto in the future.
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Now, I mean, part of the politics of policing is the union, the police union,
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and the politics that they play to get more members to, you know, and all of that stuff,
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The other part of it, too, that you're referring to,
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is when you have these community groups speaking out and then politicians try and form policy
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based on the politics of that, instead of letting the professionals in the police department
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develop their policy in response to problems in their community, you create further problems.
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The problem in Baltimore has resulted in what's called in the policing world FIDO response,
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And that means that police are not being proactive.
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They respond to the call, deal with it, do their paperwork, and clear and take another call.
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When you take away the proactive part of policing,
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that's when you see spikes in violence, spikes in all manner of things, in all types of crimes,
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simply because you're not, if they're strictly being reactive,
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they're just responding to calls for service, you know, period.
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You know, I think that's a great point, that when you create an adversarial relationship with police,
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police, I mean, really, they are putting their lives on the line every day to defend our communities.
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And when we treat them like they are potential murderers every day,
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if they have to draw their weapon and defend themselves,
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of course, that's going to change how they respond to violent crime.
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I wanted to talk to you a little bit about John Tory's embrace of sanctuary cities,
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open borders, and even supervised injection sites.
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For me, I think all three of those things are draws for organized crime.
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You know, when you're advocating for open borders in sanctuary cities,
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it sure makes it easy for those handguns to get trafficked across the very porous border
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And I think, naturally, supervised injection sites,
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anywhere you have drug addicts, you'll have drug dealers,
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and anywhere you have drug dealers, you'll have organized crime.
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And yet, John Tory seems to be embracing those things on one hand,
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and then concerning himself with the rising tide of violence on the other.
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And I think, at some point, he has to make the connection
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that he can either do one or the other, but not both.
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Well, again, it's political correctness and all that.
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And Toronto is certainly a diverse community and multicultural community.
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Tory, it seems to me, is trying to be all things to all people.
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I mean, there's been something in the neighborhood of 275 shootings this year alone.
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And you go back to the so-called year of the gun, which was 2005,
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And that resulted in the formation of Toronto's anti-violence team called TABIS, T-A-B-I-S.
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Tory, when he became mayor, also disbanded TABIS, and he put an end to carting.
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Well, you've taken away two of the primary proactive things that police can do to keep
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And you can't, Tory just simply can't be all things to all people.
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If he's going to be responsive to the majority of the community that wants to put an end to
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the violence, then he's got to put down his politically correct nonsense.
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Now, I called you a private security consultant, but you're also a former police officer.
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So I thought, who better to ask about the solutions, the immediate, easy solutions, really, that
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John Tory could make if he, like you say, would put aside that politically correct nonsense.
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How, what are the things that he could do to make Toronto safer today?
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Well, I think restoring TABIS, or a version of that, basically it's a rapid response team
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where you can move them anywhere around the city of Toronto to problem neighborhoods, areas
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where you see a spike in violence, and they're called, it's a rapid response team for exactly
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You get a quick response to problems, and they can deal with problems.
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In New York PD, they call it the anti-crime unit.
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The concept is having a highly mobile, rapid response team that can deal proactively with
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problems before they occur, or neighborhoods where they are occurring, and they can try and
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Now, I wanted to ask you about some of John Tory's focus.
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He seems to be reiterating this lie, and I don't know where it came from, that legal Canadian
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gun owners are responsible for straw purchases to hand off their handguns to drug dealers and
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That's one of the things he actually said at his Gangs and Guns conference that he held
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with Ralph Goodale was that, you know, he estimated that 50% of these guns are, you know, being
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Now, I don't know where he got that number, but I'm more inclined to believe that those
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guns were stolen from legal gun owners who are then the victims of crime, and yet we're
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What do you think about John Tory's strange focus on pushing for gun control for normal
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people when it's illegal guns that are causing the problems in his community?
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There's an old saying, Sheila, that when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.
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First off, John Tory doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Secondly, the vast majority of guns coming into this country come in illegally through smuggling
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The biggest one near Toronto is through the Akmasasne Reserve.
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Until you start attacking those smuggling routes, you can't stop the number of guns on the streets.
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Legal gun ownership, as you know, you're an Albertan, Sheila.
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I mean, you have lots of people in Alberta that have guns in their houses, and they don't
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You know, it's a strong man argument that he's trying, and it's just wrong.
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You know, I think it's easy to make gun owners comply to gun laws because they are, by nature,
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And it's just harder to do the hard things and, like you say, cut through the political
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correctness to target the demographics that are committing these crimes in Toronto.
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It's nonsensical arguments, and we've been hearing them for years, and you still hear
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them in the United States as well every time there's a shooting.
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When you have illegal gun laws, or you have gun laws in places like New York and Chicago,
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and yet they still have an incredible amount of illegal gun crime, you know, you're not solving
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The way to solve the problem is, first off, it's got to be a two-part solution.
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You have to have a rapid response team that can go into these neighborhoods, go into the
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gang areas, not target the gangs, you know, be able to compile and analyze intelligence
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about who's doing what to whom, who's a member of this, who's associated with you.
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The second part of that is you've got to have, and this is a federal responsibility,
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the responsibility of the RCMP, to attack the smuggling routes and working in conjunction
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with the Canadian Border Services folks to try and stop the smuggling of weapons into
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And it's got to be a two-prime approach, or you're just going to see more and more crime.
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You know, and it's, it's such a waste of police resources to target the law-abiding
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when there are just so few police resources that can be dedicated to, you know, really
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Now, let's hope the politicians and decision-makers actually start listening to experts and, you
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know, frankly, the beat cops that are doing this work, instead of the cops with political
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aspirations of, you know, maybe joining the Liberal Party of Canada as an MP.
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Because it's just so important for us to get this right and get this right, right now.
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Well, in my view, and I think you and I have spoken about this before, Sheila, in my view,
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the politicians need to stay out of it and the professionals in policing need to get involved.
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And I'm not talking about at the political level of policing like Chief Sanders.
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I'm talking about pushing it down again to the people who are experts on what's happening
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And I'm coming up with solutions from those folks who are exactly that.
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You know, someone who's sitting around a politically correct council table or a police board meeting
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has no experience to design police response and police tactics.
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You know, Leo, from your mouth to God's ears, I want to thank you for joining me.
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And I want to thank you for doing something the politicians don't seem to be doing,
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and that's offering reasonable solutions to this.
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That's Leo Knight, former RCMP and Vancouver police member,
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offering some real solutions that the politicians just don't seem to have.
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Well, everybody, we heard from Leo Knight giving us the law enforcement
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But now I'd like to talk to a gun owner's advocacy group.
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Joining me now is Tony Bernardo from the Canadian Shooting Sports Association.
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And we're here to talk about how C-71 was in the cooker already with regard to
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And John Tory's gangs and guns summit was just the excuse, like Tony told me off camera,
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to carpet bomb, to lay cover for the introduction of the new law.
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We know that the excuse the government gave us for it coming to being was that John Tory
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pushed for measures in the law to combat gang violence in his city.
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It just targets the lawful because that's the path of least resistance.
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Yeah, and really, it doesn't even target the lawful so much as it does create a bunch
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It's not like they're doing much in the way of banning things or changing the Firearms Act.
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They're just making a whole lot of paperwork that people have to deal with and going back
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and giving the RCMP back the two guns that they asked to ban back a few years ago.
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And the CZ-858 and the Swiss Arms Green Carbine, those aren't exactly the choice of gangbangers
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You know, first of all, the Swiss Arms is a very, very expensive firearm.
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And the choice of firearms for criminals are almost exclusively handguns.
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And we have some of the toughest handgun laws in the world right now, and they seem to be
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Now, John Tory at that Gangs and Guns Summit, he made mention of straw purchases or legal Canadian
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handguns owners like you and I willingly going out, buying guns to circumvent the system,
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And he cited some strange number of about 50% of guns being Canadian sourced.
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Now, there's a bunch of things involved with this, first of all.
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Anyone who tries to do straw purchases of restricted or prohibited firearms in Canada
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has a special little place on the funny farm, because you'd have to be insane to try something
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The second thing is, they talk about 50% of the guns being sourced in Canada.
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Because, you see, it's 50% of the guns they were able to trace.
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And they were only able to successfully trace 12% of the crime guns.
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They don't actually tell you how many guns it is, because if they came back to you and
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they said, well, it's 22 firearms, the media would have no interest in that whatsoever.
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But they used the percentages to make it sound really, really racy.
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And, you know, when we were there at the Guns and Gangs Summit, there was a very interesting
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She did a great presentation talking about how CBSA has successfully upped their game in
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terms of interdiction of crime guns at the border, which, by the way, is fantastic news
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And they have really increased the number of crime guns seized.
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And it's interesting that even Bill Blair, when he was thanking the presenter for doing
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the great job she did, said, it's wonderful to see that CBSA is seizing so many guns.
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That's changing the ratio between how many guns are sourced and how many are coming across
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In other words, it's not that there's more guns being sourced or stolen in Canada.
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It's that there's a lot less of them coming from the states.
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And we're still talking about 50 percent to 12 percent.
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And that 50 percent of 12 percent, John Tory didn't make a distinction between what he
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called internally trafficked guns or domestically trafficked guns and guns that had been stolen
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So he went out of his way to demonize the people who are victims of violent gangs who are breaking
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He actually advocated for more laws to be imposed on people who are actually the victims of
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And, you know, when they're talking about crime guns, they're not talking about guns used
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They're talking about guns recovered at crime scenes.
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But for an example, if you had an arson, that's a crime scene.
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If they took two guns out of a gun safe, that's two guns that were found at a crime scene.
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Now, I wanted to talk to you, Tony, because news has come out and I saw it on the gun blog
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a month ago and I see the mainstream media is just sort of catching up to that, that you
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were listed as someone who was consulted on Bill C-71.
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But as most liberal consultations are, it was a complete and total sham.
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And your group, the CSSA, was not consulted at all.
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And I don't know of any firearms group in the country that was.
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And, you know, this is particularly disturbing when you consider that our president, Steve
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Torino, has sat on every single firearms advisory committee all the way back to Allen Rock.
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And I've sat on every single firearms advisory committee all the way back to Anne McClellan.
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So we're dealing with several decades of experience on this issue.
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We've been advisors to ministers, both liberal and conservative, and always given them fair
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and faithful, impartial advice to the best of our ability.
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You know, both Steve and I are accredited experts on firearms in the Supreme Court of Ontario
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And I mean, you can't get much higher accreditation than that.
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And yet we were not even asked to the table at any point in time, nor were we even consulted
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about how these changes might impact our communities.
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And the people they did consult were, you know, Allen Rock cronies and social justice weirdos.
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People who would love to see women like me stripped of my right to own a firearm in the
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name of, you know, protecting me from male violence.
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Yeah, actually, I think they even say at times it's protecting you from yourself.
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You know, it's amazing, these social justice warriors.
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They have no regard for anybody, anyone's opinion other than their own.
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So I guess the big question is, does it end here?
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We have, you know, a little over a year and maybe close to a half of the Trudeau government
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They won't be satisfied until they get the very last pellet gun.
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This is never going to end in my lifetime or in yours.
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And we will be talking about this for a long time to come.
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However, it may be the end of it right now for the liberals.
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I can't see the liberals having awakened such a huge sleeping bear with this bill, the C-71,
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And it recreates the gun registry and it does a whole bunch of bad things.
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But it's not even significant in scope compared to the C-68 when it was around.
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I can't see the liberals getting the reaction they're getting now and then willingly going back in the barrel.
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Well, Tony, I want to tell you to keep up the fight for people like me and for, you know,
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lawful Canadian gun owners who just really don't have the time to take on these battles
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because we're minding our business, paying our taxes and going about our lives.
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You know, our association is fully committed to maintaining Canadians' firearms rights.
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And we will keep pushing this and pushing this until we get it fixed.
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Well, everybody, that's Tony Bernardo from the Canadian Shooting Sports Association.
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Now, this is the part of the show where Ezra normally reads his hate mail.
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Now, there are two things that I learned very quickly when I began working here at The Rebel.
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The first one was to never, ever read the comments.
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But if you do, never, ever take them seriously.
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But I'll pull up a few just so that you can see what it's like to be a conservative woman with ideas expressing them on the internet.
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Marty Trollington, and I'm sure that's exactly what it says on his driver's license,
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Sheila Gunn-Reed is a fascist, Zion-Nazi supporting terrorist.
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And I have a present I intend to deliver personally to her and her terrorist associate.
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Well, the good news for Marty is that he never actually tried to deliver something to me.
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And I think he should thank his lucky stars that he didn't.
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Because from what I understand on the internet,
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People write articles about that sort of stuff.
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And then I got this message to my Twitter account from some charmer called Cert Zyked, I think.
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You know I like conservatives, but your nails on a chalkboard voice is the absolute f***ing worst.
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You look like you haven't worked a day in your life.
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I'm here to bring you the other side of the story.
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But I do like to look like I'm a lady of leisure.
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So I'll take that second half of your comment as a compliment.
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And then I thought I'd share with you this Amazon review of my book.
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The Case Against David Suzuki and Unauthorized Biography from somebody named James Gibb,
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Anyway, James Wright was going to pick up this book to read.
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But once I found out Sheila Gunn-Reed is associated with the white supremacist conspiracy theory,
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alt-right, etc., rebel media, I'll pass until a less biased writer takes this on.
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I mean, besides the fact that I'm a Zionist working for a Zionist company,
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which makes the accusations of alt-right ties just really stupid.
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The guy didn't even read my book, but he gave me one star based solely on my employment
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and not the content of a book he promises he'll never read.
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You know, the men and women on the feminist left sure do have a way with words for us little ladies, don't they?
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I want to thank Ezra for giving me this opportunity to fill in for him.
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I want to thank everybody back in the office in Toronto for their patience
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during my first attempt at guest hosting for Ezra.
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And I want to thank all of you at home for tuning in.
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And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.