Rebel News Podcast - The 3 real reasons Toronto gang violence is out of control (Guest host： Sheila Gunn Reid)

00:00:00.000 It's the summer of the Gun 2.0 in Toronto, and Mayor John Tory said that he's been doing

00:00:04.340 everything he can to stem the tide of gun violence washing through Toronto's streets.

00:00:10.000 But has Tory really been focusing his efforts and his resources in the right direction?

00:00:14.520 It's July 20th, 2018. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.

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00:00:46.400 Gang violence is out of control in Toronto. As I'm recording this, there have been 220 shootings so far in Toronto this year.

00:00:54.860 Now, I've got theories about how this gang violence got so far out of control.

00:01:00.240 I think it was a perfect storm. Equal parts lack of foresight, a politically correct mayor who cowered to political pressure from anti-police groups,

00:01:08.280 a refusal by police administration to acknowledge a problem was happening at all,

00:01:12.740 and a mayor that would rather suck up to the Trudeau liberals than take the steps he needs to to keep his community safe.

00:01:19.980 In 2017, as gun violence was maintaining its upward trend from the atrocious year before,

00:01:27.560 Toronto, at least according to the Police Association, was down about 500 cops from their usual staffing levels.

00:01:34.160 The Police Association was saying that the police were overburdened, overworked, they couldn't keep up.

00:01:38.980 Now, there had been a hiring freeze on the police for a couple of years by then,

00:01:42.020 and only after the deadly summer of 2017 did Tory finally agree to hire just 80 more cops to supplant the officers leaving the force to retirement.

00:01:50.980 Of all the things that Toronto blows taxpayer money on, they were sure tight-fisted with the police.

00:01:56.240 The city needed 500 more cops.

00:01:58.900 They were in the middle of a violent crime wave, and yet Tory okayed the police to hire just 80 cops to replace some old-timers on their way out.

00:02:06.020 It wasn't good enough. It wasn't enough planning.

00:02:08.700 But why, in 2017, was Tory so averse to hiring cops in the first place?

00:02:13.660 Well, that's the second part of the perfect storm of Toronto,

00:02:16.900 where the problem of having a politically correct mayor comes into play.

00:02:21.660 Tory was scared helpless of the anti-police wackos in Black Lives Matter. 0.98

00:02:27.500 Tory ended the police carding policy, which allowed Toronto police to routinely and randomly stop citizens

00:02:34.940 and then record personal information, because activists like those in Black Lives Matter said

00:02:39.920 carding disproportionately targeted the city's Black community.

00:02:43.520 Now, the information garnered through carding was kept on record for an undetermined amount of time,

00:02:48.780 but it was easily available for police to access in investigations.

00:02:52.840 It was a valuable intel tool for police that was used to keep the Black community safe.

00:02:58.280 But Tory ended it because of pressure from BLM and to be politically correct, 0.99

00:03:01.780 and now the Black community is paying the price for it all. 0.80

00:03:04.780 And at the behest of BLM, Toronto police were banned from attending the Pride Parade.

00:03:09.480 BLM insisted police were oppressive, part of systemic anti-Black racism.

00:03:14.480 And yet, even after that, Tory thought the anti-police BLM had done good work

00:03:19.060 to shine a light on racism, I guess, through their constant public tantrums and anti-police rhetoric.

00:03:24.740 You know what?

00:03:25.080 That had to set a tone for police morale when their mayor sides with anti-police activists.

00:03:30.040 Which brings us to the failure by officials to even acknowledge

00:03:34.220 that a problem was unfolding in Toronto in the first place.

00:03:39.040 In 2016, people were starting to wonder if Toronto was in the middle of a replay of the 2005

00:03:43.840 Summer of the Gun.

00:03:46.240 In 2016, from January to June, there were 21 fatal shootings in Toronto.

00:03:51.880 In Summer 2017, same thing again.

00:03:54.460 People were starting to wonder if they were headed into yet another Summer of the Gun in Toronto streets.

00:04:02.100 And not just any people were wondering, experts.

00:04:04.600 Toronto Police Association President Mike McCormick tweeted then,

00:04:08.060 Year of the Gun, the sequel, 25 shooting deaths January to July 2005, 23 shooting deaths year to date in 2017,

00:04:18.640 including three dead and five injured in three days.

00:04:23.300 Toronto Police spokesman Mark Pugash, though, he didn't think there was any relevance in comparing

00:04:28.120 2017 to 2005, Summer of the Gun.

00:04:31.120 I don't know what benefit there is to comparing where we are today to 12 years ago, Pugash was quoted as saying in the Toronto Sun.

00:04:41.100 But when we're looking at just the raw data, the shooting rate for 2017 was the same as 2016 at 286 and 285 respectively.

00:04:51.240 It was a lot.

00:04:51.940 In 2015, there were 255 shootings and just 123 in 2014.

00:04:58.840 It had more than doubled in a couple of years.

00:05:01.580 There was a frightening upward trend in shootings that should have set alarm bells off all over the place.

00:05:07.120 But it was actively being downplayed, at least in the media by police administration.

00:05:11.720 And that brings us to the next factor.

00:05:14.440 Tory sucked up to the Liberals to be liked by the media.

00:05:16.920 And now he's living with the consequences of those failed social policies.

00:05:20.840 John Tory's a big fan of the Liberals' supervised drug injection sites.

00:05:25.800 But here's the thing about having junkies congregate in certain locations around your city.

00:05:32.080 Guess who's big into the drug dealing business?

00:05:35.040 Gangs.

00:05:35.640 Organized crime.

00:05:36.520 They sell drugs.

00:05:37.300 They sell guns.

00:05:38.340 They human traffic.

00:05:39.320 And sometimes they even shoot people.

00:05:41.820 And when you create supervised drug injection sites, you're creating a big fat welcome sign for gangs to move in.

00:05:47.840 And speaking of welcome signs, Tory's also a big fan of Justin Trudeau's welcome to Canada tweet.

00:05:53.580 You know that tweet.

00:05:54.260 It welcomed every self-deporting illegal migrant from the United States to seek safe haven in Toronto.

00:06:00.760 And I'm not even saying that illegal migrants are part of the gang problem.

00:06:04.500 But you know what?

00:06:05.680 The Americans sure are.

00:06:06.960 In fact, American intelligence agencies in 2017 warned us that Somalis with criminal records were coming across into Canada and claiming asylum to avoid prosecution.

00:06:18.840 The Americans said that these criminals would pose security threats to us here in Canada.

00:06:24.420 And just this week, Justin Trudeau shuffled his cabinet and created a new ministry.

00:06:29.520 One that specifically deals with border security and gangs.

00:06:33.640 So even the federal government thinks the two issues are intrinsically linked.

00:06:39.460 But at its most basic, when you advocate for open borders, and you know what John Tory does?

00:06:44.520 Here's a picture of him standing in front of a podium with open borders written on the poster just below him.

00:06:50.700 You can't control what's coming into the country.

00:06:53.680 And if people can certainly just walk across the border, you know what?

00:06:58.020 So can guns.

00:06:59.000 A lot of them.

00:06:59.900 And when the Liberals proposed a gun and gang summit under the alleged guise of dealing with the problems of Toronto,

00:07:07.560 Tory jumped at the chance to help the Liberals use the gang violence in his city as the next reason to strip gun rights away from innocent legal gun owners all across the country.

00:07:20.260 When Tory was given the chance at the gun and gang summit to ask for federal help combating the gangs running rampant in Toronto, Tory took a hardline stance, that's for sure.

00:07:32.020 But not against foreign gun traffickers, no.

00:07:35.060 But against lawful Canadian firearms owners that he accused of domestically trafficking firearms to the gangs infesting his city.

00:07:43.580 It was outrageous.

00:07:44.260 According to the Canadian Coalition for Firearms Rights, who were actually at the summit, Tory blamed Canadian gun owners for the gun crime in Toronto.

00:07:54.880 The CCFR quoted Tory as throwing out strange statistics that there had been an incredible jump in the number of domestically sourced firearms being used in crimes.

00:08:05.880 The CCFR said Tory stated that 50% of guns used in crime come from within Canada, implying gun owners are selling their legally obtained firearms to gang members and to criminals.

00:08:19.280 It was unbelievable.

00:08:21.560 Tory has subhuman monsters, the kind that gun down little girls as they play, roaming the streets of his city.

00:08:28.660 And he was asking the government to come after me and millions of other highly vetted law-abiding Canadian citizens.

00:08:36.740 That's what Tory wanted from the feds.

00:08:40.040 And of course, out of that summit came the Liberals' new gun control bill, C-71.

00:08:44.820 That bill does nothing to combat gangs.

00:08:47.000 It outlaws two long guns, the CZ858 and the Swiss Arms Green Carbine, guns that are not used by Toronto's gangsters.

00:08:54.180 And now I have to report to some bureaucrat in a cubicle somewhere if I were to use a handgun at the range, which is the only place I'm legally allowed to use it anyway.

00:09:04.360 What a pathetic waste of police resources.

00:09:07.640 But here's the real rub.

00:09:10.000 It doesn't really matter how bad it gets in Toronto, because Tory doesn't have to live with the mess he let happen in Toronto if he doesn't really want to.

00:09:19.000 You see, Tory has a home in an exclusive gated community in Florida. 0.98

00:09:22.340 It's called Lost Tree Village, where Tory's neighbours include Home Depot founder Ken Langone and billionaire hedge fund investors.

00:09:32.760 It's a place where security guards carry guns Tory says I shouldn't have to keep him safe in his bed at night.

00:09:41.440 Stay with us.

00:09:42.660 More Ahead from the Rebel after the break.

00:09:44.620 I think a lot of the problem with what's happening in Toronto is that politicians are talking about what police need to do

00:10:09.280 to curb the rising tide of violence in Toronto communities.

00:10:14.340 And they're not talking enough to police officers who don't have political aspirations,

00:10:20.240 but police officers who want to just do their job and make their community safer.

00:10:25.140 So I thought, what a great opportunity to have an actual former police officer on the show.

00:10:31.640 Tonight, joining me is Leo Knight.

00:10:33.660 He's a former RCMP officer and a Vancouver Police Service member.

00:10:38.020 And he's also a private security consultant.

00:10:41.100 Leo, thanks for joining me.

00:10:43.280 You're very welcome, Sheila.

00:10:44.320 I wanted to talk to you about some of the implications that it has for police when politicians sort of play politics with their job.

00:10:54.260 For example, John Tory has come out against carding, which I think is a valuable tool for police to gain intel into gang membership.

00:11:08.200 And he's also come out in strong support of open borders and sanctuary cities.

00:11:13.800 And for me, I think both of those things can be an organized crime draw

00:11:18.240 when there's expected to be a blind eye turned by policing to these issues.

00:11:23.960 What do you think?

00:11:25.640 Well, in the first instance, carding is nothing new.

00:11:28.360 It used to be done back in the old days, literally on the index cards that were filed in the records office.

00:11:35.360 And it's just a way of gathering intelligence.

00:11:37.500 And if you come across somebody in the street, you fill out a very small bit of information,

00:11:42.460 name, address, date of birth, and description, and what the contact reason was for.

00:11:49.340 But all police departments use it.

00:11:51.680 It's a way of gathering intelligence and it's a way of retroactively solving crimes.

00:11:57.620 If something happens in a particular neighborhood and you go through the cards

00:12:00.740 and you find out that, oh, so-and-so was actually there five minutes before, ten minutes before,

00:12:05.960 you know, then you can use that as an investigative tool to go and try and solve a particular event.

00:12:11.620 Now, activist groups like Black Lives Matter, they've come out and said that carding is racist

00:12:19.960 because it's, you know, they say it targets visible minorities for police harassment.

00:12:27.740 What do you say to them?

00:12:28.480 Well, I think it ignores the elephant in the room, which is the vast majority of violent crime is committed by the gangs.

00:12:36.120 And in Toronto, the gangs are primarily black gangs.

00:12:41.720 You know, you can dance around that all you want, but that's reality.

00:12:45.520 Now, we've just seen reports out of Baltimore that police have basically stopped policing

00:12:54.940 since their city council has cozied up to anti-police activists in Black Lives Matter.

00:13:01.620 I'm concerned, given John Tory's sort of cozy relationship with Black Lives Matter, 1.00

00:13:06.820 that we might be seeing some of that happen in Toronto in the future.

00:13:10.860 Well, I think you're already seeing it.

00:13:15.540 Now, I mean, part of the politics of policing is the union, the police union,

00:13:22.800 and the politics that they play to get more members to, you know, and all of that stuff,

00:13:27.580 more money, more members.

00:13:28.720 It's typical union politics.

00:13:30.360 So that's part of this equation as well.

00:13:32.860 It's not lose sight of that.

00:13:34.580 The other part of it, too, that you're referring to,

00:13:37.660 is when you have these community groups speaking out and then politicians try and form policy

00:13:44.780 based on the politics of that, instead of letting the professionals in the police department

00:13:50.060 develop their policy in response to problems in their community, you create further problems.

00:13:56.440 The problem in Baltimore has resulted in what's called in the policing world FIDO response,

00:14:02.300 which is F it.

00:14:03.380 You can figure out what that means.

00:14:04.460 F it, drive on.

00:14:06.580 And that means that police are not being proactive.

00:14:10.260 They're strictly being reactive.

00:14:11.960 They'll get a call for service.

00:14:13.180 They respond to the call, deal with it, do their paperwork, and clear and take another call.

00:14:17.500 When you take away the proactive part of policing,

00:14:20.460 that's when you see spikes in violence, spikes in all manner of things, in all types of crimes,

00:14:26.340 simply because you're not, if they're strictly being reactive,

00:14:32.320 they're just responding to calls for service, you know, period.

00:14:36.940 And that's what the FIDO problem results in.

00:14:41.260 You know, I think that's a great point, that when you create an adversarial relationship with police,

00:14:46.600 police, I mean, really, they are putting their lives on the line every day to defend our communities.

00:14:50.460 And when we treat them like they are potential murderers every day,

00:14:54.900 if they have to draw their weapon and defend themselves,

00:14:57.380 of course, that's going to change how they respond to violent crime.

00:15:02.960 I wanted to talk to you a little bit about John Tory's embrace of sanctuary cities,

00:15:08.440 open borders, and even supervised injection sites.

00:15:11.640 For me, I think all three of those things are draws for organized crime.

00:15:16.280 You know, when you're advocating for open borders in sanctuary cities,

00:15:20.060 it sure makes it easy for those handguns to get trafficked across the very porous border

00:15:24.320 and into the hands of Toronto gangs.

00:15:27.200 And I think, naturally, supervised injection sites,

00:15:29.800 anywhere you have drug addicts, you'll have drug dealers,

00:15:32.180 and anywhere you have drug dealers, you'll have organized crime.

00:15:35.820 And yet, John Tory seems to be embracing those things on one hand,

00:15:39.540 and then concerning himself with the rising tide of violence on the other.

00:15:43.640 And I think, at some point, he has to make the connection

00:15:46.760 that he can either do one or the other, but not both.

00:15:51.600 Well, again, it's political correctness and all that.

00:15:55.820 And Toronto is certainly a diverse community and multicultural community.

00:16:01.740 Tory, it seems to me, is trying to be all things to all people.

00:16:05.100 You've got stories in Toronto.

00:16:08.120 I mean, there's been something in the neighborhood of 275 shootings this year alone.

00:16:12.000 And that's an incredible number.

00:16:14.500 And you go back to the so-called year of the gun, which was 2005,

00:16:19.280 when you saw similar numbers.

00:16:21.300 And that resulted in the formation of Toronto's anti-violence team called TABIS, T-A-B-I-S.

00:16:30.860 Tory, when he became mayor, also disbanded TABIS, and he put an end to carting.

00:16:36.760 Well, you've taken away two of the primary proactive things that police can do to keep

00:16:43.040 a lid on the violence.

00:16:45.120 And you can't, Tory just simply can't be all things to all people.

00:16:50.180 If he's going to be responsive to the majority of the community that wants to put an end to

00:16:53.680 the violence, then he's got to put down his politically correct nonsense.

00:16:57.020 Now, I called you a private security consultant, but you're also a former police officer.

00:17:03.820 So I thought, who better to ask about the solutions, the immediate, easy solutions, really, that

00:17:09.860 John Tory could make if he, like you say, would put aside that politically correct nonsense.

00:17:16.220 How, what are the things that he could do to make Toronto safer today?

00:17:21.320 Well, I think restoring TABIS, or a version of that, basically it's a rapid response team

00:17:29.080 where you can move them anywhere around the city of Toronto to problem neighborhoods, areas

00:17:33.880 where you see a spike in violence, and they're called, it's a rapid response team for exactly

00:17:39.500 that.

00:17:39.880 You get a quick response to problems, and they can deal with problems.

00:17:43.440 In New York PD, they call it the anti-crime unit.

00:17:46.640 Vancouver has a gun suppression unit.

00:17:49.260 You know, it's the same sort of thing, though.

00:17:52.500 The concept is having a highly mobile, rapid response team that can deal proactively with

00:17:59.500 problems before they occur, or neighborhoods where they are occurring, and they can try and

00:18:03.540 take the problem out.

00:18:05.440 Now, I wanted to ask you about some of John Tory's focus.

00:18:09.660 He seems to be reiterating this lie, and I don't know where it came from, that legal Canadian 0.99

00:18:17.540 gun owners are responsible for straw purchases to hand off their handguns to drug dealers and

00:18:27.940 gangbangers.

00:18:29.060 That's one of the things he actually said at his Gangs and Guns conference that he held

00:18:33.720 with Ralph Goodale was that, you know, he estimated that 50% of these guns are, you know, being

00:18:41.080 purchased legally.

00:18:42.720 Now, I don't know where he got that number, but I'm more inclined to believe that those

00:18:47.460 guns were stolen from legal gun owners who are then the victims of crime, and yet we're

00:18:52.840 demonizing them as participants in this crime.

00:18:55.200 What do you think about John Tory's strange focus on pushing for gun control for normal

00:19:02.540 people when it's illegal guns that are causing the problems in his community?

00:19:07.400 There's an old saying, Sheila, that when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns.

00:19:13.940 First off, John Tory doesn't know what he's talking about.

00:19:17.600 Secondly, the vast majority of guns coming into this country come in illegally through smuggling

00:19:22.740 operations.

00:19:23.960 The biggest one near Toronto is through the Akmasasne Reserve. 0.99

00:19:28.380 Until you start attacking those smuggling routes, you can't stop the number of guns on the streets.

00:19:37.720 That's the first real problem with that.

00:19:40.960 Legal gun ownership, as you know, you're an Albertan, Sheila.

00:19:43.920 I mean, you have lots of people in Alberta that have guns in their houses, and they don't

00:19:47.860 do anything.

00:19:48.700 They don't commit violence.

00:19:50.120 You know, it's a strong man argument that he's trying, and it's just wrong.

00:19:56.840 You know, I think it's easy to make gun owners comply to gun laws because they are, by nature,

00:20:02.660 lawful people.

00:20:04.180 And it's just harder to do the hard things and, like you say, cut through the political

00:20:08.960 correctness to target the demographics that are committing these crimes in Toronto.

00:20:13.500 Exactly.

00:20:16.880 It's nonsensical arguments, and we've been hearing them for years, and you still hear

00:20:20.480 them in the United States as well every time there's a shooting.

00:20:24.720 When you have illegal gun laws, or you have gun laws in places like New York and Chicago,

00:20:30.920 and yet they still have an incredible amount of illegal gun crime, you know, you're not solving

00:20:37.460 the problem by doing that.

00:20:38.720 The way to solve the problem is, first off, it's got to be a two-part solution.

00:20:43.900 You have to have a rapid response team that can go into these neighborhoods, go into the

00:20:48.560 gang areas, not target the gangs, you know, be able to compile and analyze intelligence

00:20:54.620 about who's doing what to whom, who's a member of this, who's associated with you.

00:20:58.760 And that's an important part of police work.

00:21:01.020 The second part of that is you've got to have, and this is a federal responsibility,

00:21:06.020 the responsibility of the RCMP, to attack the smuggling routes and working in conjunction

00:21:10.940 with the Canadian Border Services folks to try and stop the smuggling of weapons into

00:21:16.140 the country.

00:21:17.240 And it's got to be a two-prime approach, or you're just going to see more and more crime.

00:21:21.660 It's just, it's as simple as that.

00:21:23.360 You know, and it's, it's such a waste of police resources to target the law-abiding

00:21:29.320 when there are just so few police resources that can be dedicated to, you know, really

00:21:34.260 saving lives in Toronto communities.

00:21:36.980 Now, let's hope the politicians and decision-makers actually start listening to experts and, you

00:21:41.600 know, frankly, the beat cops that are doing this work, instead of the cops with political

00:21:46.600 aspirations of, you know, maybe joining the Liberal Party of Canada as an MP.

00:21:51.980 Because it's just so important for us to get this right and get this right, right now.

00:21:59.140 Well, in my view, and I think you and I have spoken about this before, Sheila, in my view,

00:22:03.980 the politicians need to stay out of it and the professionals in policing need to get involved.

00:22:08.980 And I'm not talking about at the political level of policing like Chief Sanders.

00:22:12.280 I'm talking about pushing it down again to the people who are experts on what's happening

00:22:18.160 in the streets.

00:22:19.340 And I'm coming up with solutions from those folks who are exactly that.

00:22:24.000 They're the experts.

00:22:25.220 You know, someone who's sitting around a politically correct council table or a police board meeting

00:22:30.440 has no experience to design police response and police tactics.

00:22:38.000 You know, Leo, from your mouth to God's ears, I want to thank you for joining me.

00:22:43.940 And I want to thank you for doing something the politicians don't seem to be doing,

00:22:47.220 and that's offering reasonable solutions to this.

00:22:51.060 And I hope you'll make time to join us again.

00:22:54.340 Anytime, Sheila.

00:22:55.500 Thank you.

00:22:56.040 That's Leo Knight, former RCMP and Vancouver police member,

00:23:00.740 offering some real solutions that the politicians just don't seem to have.

00:23:05.000 Stay with us.

00:23:05.840 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:23:17.180 Well, everybody, we heard from Leo Knight giving us the law enforcement

00:23:20.820 perspective on John Tory's gang violence.

00:23:24.100 But now I'd like to talk to a gun owner's advocacy group.

00:23:29.320 Joining me now is Tony Bernardo from the Canadian Shooting Sports Association.

00:23:33.880 And we're here to talk about how C-71 was in the cooker already with regard to

00:23:40.600 stripping away Canadian gun rights.

00:23:42.800 And John Tory's gangs and guns summit was just the excuse, like Tony told me off camera,

00:23:48.440 to carpet bomb, to lay cover for the introduction of the new law.

00:23:53.720 You know, Tony, let's talk about Bill C-71.

00:23:56.140 We know that the excuse the government gave us for it coming to being was that John Tory

00:24:02.480 pushed for measures in the law to combat gang violence in his city.

00:24:08.300 But really, the bill does none of that.

00:24:11.020 It just targets the lawful because that's the path of least resistance.

00:24:15.100 Yeah, and really, it doesn't even target the lawful so much as it does create a bunch

00:24:23.260 of bureaucratic paperwork nonsense.

00:24:26.320 It's not like they're doing much in the way of banning things or changing the Firearms Act.

00:24:32.500 They're just making a whole lot of paperwork that people have to deal with and going back

00:24:37.340 and giving the RCMP back the two guns that they asked to ban back a few years ago.

00:24:45.040 Right.

00:24:45.680 And the CZ-858 and the Swiss Arms Green Carbine, those aren't exactly the choice of gangbangers

00:24:51.300 in Toronto, are they?

00:24:55.420 No, not so much.

00:24:57.540 You know, first of all, the Swiss Arms is a very, very expensive firearm.

00:25:01.000 And the choice of firearms for criminals are almost exclusively handguns.

00:25:07.940 And we have some of the toughest handgun laws in the world right now, and they seem to be

00:25:13.180 able to circumvent those laws.

00:25:15.240 Now, John Tory at that Gangs and Guns Summit, he made mention of straw purchases or legal Canadian

00:25:23.660 handguns owners like you and I willingly going out, buying guns to circumvent the system,

00:25:28.920 and then handing them off to gangbangers.

00:25:31.440 And he cited some strange number of about 50% of guns being Canadian sourced.

00:25:38.040 But he didn't provide any information to...

00:25:41.900 Yeah, go ahead.

00:25:45.600 Now, there's a bunch of things involved with this, first of all.

00:25:49.240 Anyone who tries to do straw purchases of restricted or prohibited firearms in Canada

00:25:54.120 has a special little place on the funny farm, because you'd have to be insane to try something

00:25:59.820 like that here.

00:26:01.300 The second thing is, they talk about 50% of the guns being sourced in Canada.

00:26:07.120 There's a few things they never, ever say.

00:26:10.140 They never, ever say, how many guns is 50%?

00:26:14.540 Because, you see, it's 50% of the guns they were able to trace.

00:26:18.660 And they were only able to successfully trace 12% of the crime guns.

00:26:24.080 So we're talking 50% of 12%.

00:26:26.660 They don't actually tell you how many guns it is, because if they came back to you and

00:26:31.900 they said, well, it's 22 firearms, the media would have no interest in that whatsoever.

00:26:37.300 But they used the percentages to make it sound really, really racy.

00:26:40.660 And, you know, when we were there at the Guns and Gangs Summit, there was a very interesting

00:26:46.620 presentation done by the person from CBSA.

00:26:50.840 She did a great presentation talking about how CBSA has successfully upped their game in

00:26:57.920 terms of interdiction of crime guns at the border, which, by the way, is fantastic news

00:27:02.440 for all of us.

00:27:03.840 And they have really increased the number of crime guns seized.

00:27:07.660 And it's interesting that even Bill Blair, when he was thanking the presenter for doing

00:27:13.040 the great job she did, said, it's wonderful to see that CBSA is seizing so many guns.

00:27:19.200 That's changing the ratio between how many guns are sourced and how many are coming across

00:27:25.200 the border.

00:27:25.760 In other words, it's not that there's more guns being sourced or stolen in Canada.

00:27:31.220 It's that there's a lot less of them coming from the states.

00:27:34.040 And it's changed the ratio.

00:27:36.300 And we're still talking about 50 percent to 12 percent.

00:27:39.640 Right.

00:27:39.940 And that 50 percent of 12 percent, John Tory didn't make a distinction between what he

00:27:45.120 called internally trafficked guns or domestically trafficked guns and guns that had been stolen

00:27:50.780 from legal firearms owners.

00:27:52.680 So he went out of his way to demonize the people who are victims of violent gangs who are breaking

00:27:58.420 into their houses and stealing their guns.

00:28:00.680 He actually advocated for more laws to be imposed on people who are actually the victims of

00:28:06.440 violent crime.

00:28:09.420 That's right.

00:28:10.240 And, you know, when they're talking about crime guns, they're not talking about guns used

00:28:14.420 in crime.

00:28:15.440 They're talking about guns recovered at crime scenes.

00:28:18.220 They may have been used.

00:28:19.780 But for an example, if you had an arson, that's a crime scene.

00:28:23.740 If they took two guns out of a gun safe, that's two guns that were found at a crime scene.

00:28:29.080 Right.

00:28:29.680 That's an excellent point.

00:28:31.380 Now, I wanted to talk to you, Tony, because news has come out and I saw it on the gun blog

00:28:35.820 a month ago and I see the mainstream media is just sort of catching up to that, that you

00:28:40.620 were listed as someone who was consulted on Bill C-71.

00:28:44.920 But as most liberal consultations are, it was a complete and total sham.

00:28:49.500 And your group, the CSSA, was not consulted at all.

00:28:54.500 Yeah.

00:28:57.140 No, no, we were not consulted.

00:28:59.040 And I don't know of any firearms group in the country that was.

00:29:02.200 And, you know, this is particularly disturbing when you consider that our president, Steve

00:29:08.200 Torino, has sat on every single firearms advisory committee all the way back to Allen Rock.

00:29:15.360 And I've sat on every single firearms advisory committee all the way back to Anne McClellan.

00:29:21.200 So we're dealing with several decades of experience on this issue.

00:29:26.440 We've been advisors to ministers, both liberal and conservative, and always given them fair

00:29:33.580 and faithful, impartial advice to the best of our ability.

00:29:38.080 You know, both Steve and I are accredited experts on firearms in the Supreme Court of Ontario

00:29:44.140 for myself and call back for Steve.

00:29:47.100 And I mean, you can't get much higher accreditation than that.

00:29:50.160 And yet we were not even asked to the table at any point in time, nor were we even consulted

00:29:56.360 about how these changes might impact our communities.

00:29:59.660 Terrible.

00:30:00.400 Just terrible.

00:30:01.200 And the people they did consult were, you know, Allen Rock cronies and social justice weirdos.

00:30:08.300 People who would love to see women like me stripped of my right to own a firearm in the 1.00

00:30:15.280 name of, you know, protecting me from male violence.

00:30:20.160 Yeah, actually, I think they even say at times it's protecting you from yourself.

00:30:28.120 You know, it's amazing, these social justice warriors.

00:30:31.280 They have no regard for anybody, anyone's opinion other than their own.

00:30:35.500 And of course, they're always right.

00:30:37.740 So I guess the big question is, does it end here?

00:30:41.260 We have, you know, a little over a year and maybe close to a half of the Trudeau government

00:30:48.040 before the next election.

00:30:49.120 Does it end here?

00:30:50.000 Are they going to do more?

00:30:51.280 Are they going to be satisfied with this?

00:30:53.020 I suspect no.

00:30:58.320 No, they're never satisfied.

00:31:00.500 They won't be satisfied until they get the very last pellet gun.

00:31:04.080 You know, they're never going to end.

00:31:05.560 This is never going to end in my lifetime or in yours.

00:31:08.180 And we will be talking about this for a long time to come.

00:31:13.240 However, it may be the end of it right now for the liberals.

00:31:17.180 I can't see the liberals having awakened such a huge sleeping bear with this bill, the C-71,

00:31:28.320 which isn't even a shadow of the former C-68.

00:31:32.680 I mean, 71 is bad.

00:31:34.080 There's no way around it.

00:31:35.880 And it recreates the gun registry and it does a whole bunch of bad things.

00:31:41.440 But it's not even significant in scope compared to the C-68 when it was around.

00:31:47.220 I can't see the liberals getting the reaction they're getting now and then willingly going back in the barrel.

00:31:53.660 It doesn't make any sense.

00:31:55.740 They never do, though.

00:31:58.140 Well, Tony, I want to tell you to keep up the fight for people like me and for, you know,

00:32:05.320 lawful Canadian gun owners who just really don't have the time to take on these battles

00:32:09.720 because we're minding our business, paying our taxes and going about our lives.

00:32:13.940 Yeah, that's right.

00:32:16.400 We will keep up the battle, Sheila.

00:32:18.500 You know, our association is fully committed to maintaining Canadians' firearms rights.

00:32:25.560 And we will keep pushing this and pushing this until we get it fixed.

00:32:30.900 Well, everybody, that's Tony Bernardo from the Canadian Shooting Sports Association.

00:32:36.140 Stay tuned.

00:32:36.900 More up on The Rebel.

00:32:43.940 Now, this is the part of the show where Ezra normally reads his hate mail.

00:32:52.280 Now, there are two things that I learned very quickly when I began working here at The Rebel.

00:32:56.840 The first one was to never, ever read the comments.

00:32:59.900 But if you do, never, ever take them seriously.

00:33:02.840 So, yeah, I do get my fair share of hate mail.

00:33:05.840 And I try not to pay attention to it.

00:33:07.300 But I'll pull up a few just so that you can see what it's like to be a conservative woman with ideas expressing them on the internet. 0.63

00:33:15.380 Marty Trollington, and I'm sure that's exactly what it says on his driver's license,

00:33:20.260 sent this word salad to my Facebook page.

00:33:23.240 It read,

00:33:24.280 Sheila Gunn-Reed is a fascist, Zion-Nazi supporting terrorist. 0.97

00:33:28.940 And I have a present I intend to deliver personally to her and her terrorist associate.

00:33:34.100 F***ing criminals.

00:33:35.180 Well, the good news for Marty is that he never actually tried to deliver something to me.

00:33:40.440 And I think he should thank his lucky stars that he didn't.

00:33:43.180 Probably the smartest thing he ever did.

00:33:45.160 But you know what?

00:33:45.940 At least he didn't call me Climate Barbie.

00:33:47.900 Because from what I understand on the internet,

00:33:50.420 that is a really, really big deal.

00:33:52.540 People write articles about that sort of stuff.

00:33:55.620 And then I got this message to my Twitter account from some charmer called Cert Zyked, I think. 0.90

00:34:02.040 He says,

00:34:03.300 You know I like conservatives, but your nails on a chalkboard voice is the absolute f***ing worst.

00:34:09.900 You look like you haven't worked a day in your life.

00:34:13.340 Well, Cert Zyked, if that's your real name. 0.92

00:34:16.700 I'm not here to sing you a little tune.

00:34:18.500 I'm here to bring you the other side of the story.

00:34:21.180 And I think I do.

00:34:22.240 And I work hard.

00:34:23.120 I'm actually a farmer.

00:34:24.220 But I do like to look like I'm a lady of leisure.

00:34:27.400 So I'll take that second half of your comment as a compliment.

00:34:31.280 Thank you.

00:34:32.280 And then I thought I'd share with you this Amazon review of my book.

00:34:36.200 The Case Against David Suzuki and Unauthorized Biography from somebody named James Gibb,

00:34:42.440 which is probably actually his real name.

00:34:45.300 Anyway, James Wright was going to pick up this book to read.

00:34:50.160 But once I found out Sheila Gunn-Reed is associated with the white supremacist conspiracy theory, 1.00

00:34:57.200 alt-right, etc., rebel media, I'll pass until a less biased writer takes this on.

00:35:03.240 I mean, besides the fact that I'm a Zionist working for a Zionist company,

00:35:07.740 which makes the accusations of alt-right ties just really stupid.

00:35:12.380 The guy didn't even read my book, but he gave me one star based solely on my employment

00:35:17.500 and not the content of a book he promises he'll never read.

00:35:21.640 Seems legit, James.

00:35:24.000 You know, the men and women on the feminist left sure do have a way with words for us little ladies, don't they? 1.00

00:35:30.260 Everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:35:32.920 I want to thank Ezra for giving me this opportunity to fill in for him.

00:35:36.880 I want to thank everybody back in the office in Toronto for their patience

00:35:40.560 during my first attempt at guest hosting for Ezra.

00:35:43.800 And I want to thank all of you at home for tuning in.

00:35:46.760 And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

Rebel News Podcast - July 21, 2018

The 3 real reasons Toronto gang violence is out of control (Guest host： Sheila Gunn Reid)

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