Rebel News Podcast - “The most shocking video I've seen in a long time”： Canada’s NAFTA negotiator hasn't talked to U.S. counterparts since G7

00:00:00.000 Tonight, Canada's NAFTA negotiator says he hasn't even had a conversation with his American counterparts since the G7.

00:00:07.180 It's June 25th, and you're watching The Ezra LeVant Show.

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00:00:36.680 The most shocking video I've seen in a long time.

00:00:38.920 The head of Canada's NAFTA negotiations just said he hasn't talked to his U.S. counterparts in weeks.

00:00:46.440 I'm going to play the clip for you just to set it up first.

00:00:49.360 It was at a boardroom table.

00:00:51.240 He was next to Chrystia Freeland, the foreign minister who has been personally working on the NAFTA file.

00:00:56.140 Here she is in another picture with her crack team of millennials because, you know, they've got vast experience with complex negotiations. 0.95

00:01:06.480 Like how to get their parents to help pay off their student loans or how to make sure their pot dealer isn't fleecing them.

00:01:14.500 Yeah, Chrystia's Angels.

00:01:15.620 You know, I don't want to judge a book by its cover, but there are some things where being old actually is a plus because it means you've done something before, achieve something, have some experience, made your mistakes already.

00:01:29.060 I think international trade deals, they're an old man's game. 1.00

00:01:33.520 Maybe old women too, but you've got to be old. 1.00

00:01:36.920 It's why judges are usually old.

00:01:38.840 It's why teachers are older than their students.

00:01:41.180 Cleverness can be quick, but wisdom usually takes time.

00:01:46.380 There is a difference, but I think there's a rule in Justin Trudeau's government.

00:01:50.040 Nobody is allowed to be older or smarter than Trudeau, and his cabinet proves that.

00:01:56.500 Now, that's fine when you're just doing selfies and photo ops, but not fine when you're going up against the toughest negotiators in the world on trade,

00:02:04.020 who happen to have all the cards because the U.S. is the biggest and most important economy, at least as far as we're concerned.

00:02:12.480 So I was delighted to learn that we actually had a professional negotiator too, not just Chrystia Freeland,

00:02:21.920 but someone who looks like they've actually been appointed on merit as opposed to being based on a gender or racial quota.

00:02:28.960 I don't know. I'm just glad that there's someone involved who isn't all about selfies.

00:02:33.920 So here he is.

00:02:35.720 You'll see him sitting next to Chrystia Freeland at a boardroom table meeting with a panel of Canadians who are very interested in NAFTA and getting a deal done.

00:02:44.660 And the media cameras are let in, and one of the panel asks this chief negotiator.

00:02:50.500 His name is Steve Verhul.

00:02:52.720 That's a pretty obvious question.

00:02:55.120 Hey, man, how's it going?

00:02:56.380 And he answers honestly because, you know, and he says, it's not going.

00:03:03.200 Take a look.

00:03:04.140 Do you still meet your counterpart?

00:03:06.600 Do you still have a committee that are working?

00:03:09.620 What is the status of the negotiation?

00:03:12.220 We don't have any active negotiations.

00:03:15.900 Since two or three weeks, I'll have the odd conversation, but no real engagement, no real negotiating session.

00:03:25.100 And when you hear that you were close to a kind of an MOU, what was the basis of it?

00:03:35.920 What was the basis of it?

00:03:36.920 We don't have a decision.

00:03:39.260 We don't have a decision.

00:03:40.720 By the way, an MOU is a memorandum of understanding.

00:03:46.580 Chrystia Freeland cut that question off. 1.00

00:03:48.240 Now, did you get the gist of this?

00:03:50.220 We do not have any ongoing negotiations, not for two or three weeks, no real engagement, no real negotiating session.

00:03:59.640 Just not.

00:04:00.960 Now, that's shocking news.

00:04:03.820 And when there was a follow-up question, you saw Chrystia Freeland interrupt to stop that answer that she knew would have been just as embarrassing.

00:04:10.320 But for some reason, the CBC didn't caption her response in French, did they?

00:04:14.920 When she actually told the question answerers, don't ask about such things in public.

00:04:20.040 I want to show you that video one more time.

00:04:21.880 It's quick.

00:04:22.740 But I want you to see it.

00:04:24.160 It means that there hasn't been any progress at all in getting a trade deal since Trudeau and Trump had their Twitter battle at the G7.

00:04:30.980 There's nothing since then.

00:04:33.280 It's really quick.

00:04:33.840 Just watch it one more time.

00:04:34.480 Do you still meet your counterpart?

00:04:37.440 Do you still have a committee that are working?

00:04:40.560 What is the status of the negotiation session?

00:04:43.300 We don't have any active negotiations.

00:04:46.720 Since?

00:04:49.040 Two or three weeks.

00:04:50.620 I'll have the odd conversation, but no real engagement, no real negotiating session.

00:04:55.940 And when you hear that you were close to a kind of a MAU, what was the basis of it?

00:05:06.320 What was the basis of it?

00:05:07.780 We don't have a conversation.

00:05:10.120 We're going to talk about it.

00:05:14.360 So we're falling off the track.

00:05:15.900 Our train is derailing.

00:05:17.900 Our biggest trading partner who's going to a war against China on trade,

00:05:22.180 going to a trade war against the European Union, against Mexico.

00:05:24.540 And we're getting swept up.

00:05:26.520 And then shouldn't we be, you know, outside of that?

00:05:30.080 We pretty much have trade parity with the U.S.

00:05:32.680 We're not like China or Mexico.

00:05:34.140 Why are we in a fight?

00:05:36.420 But Trudeau won't give up his Quebec dairy farmer cartel or a few other things

00:05:41.340 that most Canadians don't really care about, don't really want to have a trade war over.

00:05:44.860 And so right now, Trump, after the G7 meeting,

00:05:48.340 he said he's looking at hitting us where it hurts, our auto exports.

00:05:53.100 Do you see that there?

00:05:54.540 All the cars coming into the U.S., that's where we're vulnerable.

00:05:59.880 You know, we sell them more than one million more cars a year than they sell us.

00:06:04.320 So a 20% import tariff on Canadian-made cars would just devastate the auto industry.

00:06:09.580 I mean, no American would buy a Canadian-made car for 20% above this price.

00:06:14.520 It would just smash our industry.

00:06:16.440 Trump doesn't care, though.

00:06:17.560 He wants all those factories and jobs to come back to Michigan and Ohio.

00:06:22.360 He doesn't care if Ontarians say mean things about him.

00:06:25.360 Ontario doesn't vote in the U.S. presidential elections.

00:06:28.280 Michigan and Ohio do.

00:06:30.000 And if he moves factories down from Ontario to Michigan and Ohio,

00:06:34.080 they will vote for him forever.

00:06:36.040 Now, this is a crisis.

00:06:38.500 But Trudeau and Christian Freeland, they've done nothing for three weeks.

00:06:42.820 In fact, today, Justin Trudeau took his 16th personal day in 2018.

00:06:49.840 He just took a day off work, like he did the day after the G7 itself.

00:06:53.840 How many personal days have you taken in 2016?

00:06:58.120 Another more grown-up national leader would probably be in crisis mode.

00:07:03.600 Emergency cabinet meetings, maybe even taking his entire cabinet down to Washington

00:07:08.140 for emergency meetings down there.

00:07:10.400 And letting everyone know we take this seriously.

00:07:12.340 Probably calling in unorthodox help.

00:07:14.380 Calling in the Hail Mary passes.

00:07:15.900 People with gray hair.

00:07:17.320 Call up Ryan Mulrooney, who got the NAFTA deal done,

00:07:19.620 and the Canada-U.S. free trade deal done in the first place.

00:07:22.440 Like, Mulrooney would love to help.

00:07:24.960 He'd love it.

00:07:26.440 So was Jean-Claude Chen.

00:07:27.820 He was no turbo fan of the United States.

00:07:30.640 But he knew about getting business done.

00:07:33.000 Call in Frank McKenna, the liberal leader, the liberal premier,

00:07:36.480 who was a former ambassador.

00:07:37.780 Call in any grown-up, a business liberal like John Manley.

00:07:41.000 But no, these woke global warming feminists have it all in hand. 1.00

00:07:45.980 I mean, come on.

00:07:48.460 Christia Freeland?

00:07:49.300 We have worked very hard with the European Commission and with a lot of countries,

00:07:56.180 members of the European Union.

00:07:58.220 The Canada has worked really hard, and I personally have worked very hard.

00:08:02.240 But it seems clear to me, for me, for Canada, that the European Union is not able,

00:08:15.120 now, to have an international agreement, even with a country that has such European values,

00:08:27.160 such as Canada, and even with a country that is such a kind of country,

00:08:33.820 and with a lot of patience, such as Canada.

00:08:37.540 Yeah, that didn't work on the Belgians.

00:08:42.080 They are a teeny tiny country.

00:08:44.260 I don't think it's going to work with Tyrannosaurus Trump.

00:08:47.840 And her other super strategy of hug emojis. 1.00

00:08:53.980 The European Trade Commissioner, Cecilia Malmstrom, and I call each other sisters in trade.

00:09:01.420 We sign our emails, hugs.

00:09:03.840 Really?

00:09:04.280 You actually do that?

00:09:05.160 Yes, we do.

00:09:05.780 Wow.

00:09:06.160 We sometimes send each other smiley faces in particularly difficult moments.

00:09:09.580 Hey, guys, time to bring in some help, and not just from the hug squad.

00:09:16.680 I mean, don't take it from me.

00:09:17.500 Take it from every single Canadian bank that's panicking right now.

00:09:20.940 Here's Scotiabank that runs several scenarios in this study, including this one.

00:09:27.980 The 20% tariff on trade with the U.S. causes an economic recession in Canada.

00:09:33.200 Output shrinks by 1.8% in 2020,

00:09:35.400 which would mark the first annual GDP contraction in Canada since 2009.

00:09:40.240 Oh, good.

00:09:40.820 So the worst recession in a decade.

00:09:42.520 Oh, good.

00:09:42.840 No problem.

00:09:43.780 But maybe that's just the Trump lovers at Scotiabank.

00:09:47.740 Notorious right-wingers over there.

00:09:49.740 How about TD Bank?

00:09:51.840 Here's what they say would happen.

00:09:54.060 Given the concentration of the auto sector,

00:09:55.860 Ontario bears the brunt of the impact,

00:09:57.860 with growth reduced by as much as 2 percentage points.

00:10:00.880 Significant job losses also occur,

00:10:02.400 up to 1 in 5 Ontario manufacturing jobs could be at risk.

00:10:05.620 This analysis includes only direct impacts.

00:10:08.340 Supply chain and income shocks could magnify the economic impacts.

00:10:12.360 Oh, just that, guys.

00:10:15.280 1 in 5 manufacturing jobs.

00:10:17.780 So basically what Rachel Notley did to Alberta, 1.00

00:10:20.160 Trudeau is going to do to Ontario.

00:10:23.060 Let me read some more.

00:10:24.360 Significant job losses also result,

00:10:26.040 with roughly 160,000 net positions shed relative to the status quo.

00:10:31.140 Almost all of these losses would occur in Ontario.

00:10:35.860 Oh, okay.

00:10:36.860 Well, they're probably pro-Trump shields, too, at the TD Bank.

00:10:40.660 How about these guys, the National Bank of Canada?

00:10:43.540 I mean, what would they say?

00:10:44.880 Well, they say, quote,

00:10:46.460 the longer negotiations drag on,

00:10:48.000 the riskier investing in Canada and Mexico could become

00:10:50.560 for companies looking for guaranteed access to the U.S. market.

00:10:54.840 Here's another quote from their report.

00:10:56.140 I thought this was interesting.

00:10:57.680 Canada's difficult position is best summed up in the following quote.

00:11:01.700 With NAFTA in place, Canada is an option when globally oriented firms consider the North

00:11:07.300 American strategies.

00:11:08.860 Without it, Canada is a smallish market that probably can be served from the U.S. or elsewhere.

00:11:13.920 All of this means the longer the negotiations continue,

00:11:18.960 the weaker Canada's negotiating position could become.

00:11:23.340 They're basically saying, that's the headline of this piece,

00:11:25.320 they're saying a bad deal is better than no deal.

00:11:27.660 That's how banks say that.

00:11:28.880 Here, let me show you an example of all this.

00:11:31.180 All this talk about steel tariffs.

00:11:33.620 I haven't talked about dairy or auto.

00:11:35.040 Here's a steel company that isn't waiting to figure out what's going to happen with China or Canada.

00:11:42.460 They made the decision to build a new steel smelter in America.

00:11:47.620 Jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, right?

00:11:49.860 And that's what it's all about.

00:11:50.860 That is what it's all about.

00:11:52.080 Now, in addition to the permanent 300 jobs,

00:11:54.540 the CEO tells me that there are 1,000 contractors they're hiring shortly to help build that plant.

00:12:00.000 They expect to start producing steel by September.

00:12:02.720 So you're spending a half billion to build a new steel plant in Ohio instead of India.

00:12:07.320 Plus, you've got 1,000 new construction jobs.

00:12:10.220 And did you hear that?

00:12:10.820 They're going to be operating in three months.

00:12:13.480 This is a teeny bit faster than Canada approves industrial projects.

00:12:17.280 Maybe they're not doing Trudeau's gender analysis and global warming analysis first.

00:12:20.900 You're just a guess.

00:12:21.800 But let me say my point again.

00:12:24.160 There hasn't been a conversation between Canada and the United States in three weeks.

00:12:29.260 Not a word.

00:12:29.960 You heard them.

00:12:30.460 So, instead of all hands on deck, Trudeau is taking more holidays.

00:12:35.440 I see that over the weekend, he's rolled out a new selfie-style, self-promotional video celebrating poutine.

00:12:42.600 See, that's what he's good at doing.

00:12:45.840 Negotiating NAFTA?

00:12:46.800 Not so much.

00:12:47.980 Look, it's a disaster.

00:12:50.360 Seriously, all the banks say that if we don't fix this, we're going into a recession.

00:12:54.920 We have mass unemployment.

00:12:56.420 Our dollar falling to about 64 cents.

00:12:58.800 So, how did the CBC treat this news?

00:13:01.440 I don't know if you noticed, but we took that video clip from the CBC, the one of Steve Verhul.

00:13:06.640 Well, I want to show you the video in the context that the CBC reported.

00:13:12.340 Take a look.

00:13:13.040 Today, we got some interesting insight from Canada's chief NAFTA negotiator, Steve Verhul.

00:13:17.280 Now, we know talks have slowed down because they broke down just before the G7 summit because Canada, the U.S., and Mexico are all in very different positions when it comes to the sunset clause.

00:13:27.560 Justin Trudeau was trying to get NAFTA across the table, but Donald Trump is not backing away from his position.

00:13:33.300 But Steve Verhul was asked at this photo op.

00:13:35.820 There was an awkward moment where no one was talking in the room, and they all sort of joked around, like, we need to be animated.

00:13:41.240 And so, someone on the council took the lead and started asking some questions to Canada's chief negotiator.

00:13:46.460 So, have a listen.

00:13:47.380 It's hard to hear.

00:13:47.900 So, we've got – the font will come up, so you'll be able to read along.

00:13:50.300 But have a listen.

00:13:52.760 Do you still meet your counterpart?

00:13:55.260 Do you still have a committee that are working?

00:13:58.340 What is the status of the negotiation?

00:14:00.880 We don't have any active negotiation.

00:14:04.680 Since?

00:14:07.000 Two or three weeks.

00:14:08.440 And I'll have the odd conversation, but no real engagement, no real negotiating session.

00:14:13.780 So, that's not really how that's supposed to go.

00:14:35.560 It's good for us to get inside and down what's going on, but you'll see Christian Freeland

00:14:39.420 being choked in there, shut that down in French so quickly, because when your chief NAFTA negotiator

00:14:45.540 is at the – in front of cameras saying, well, we have no active negotiations.

00:14:49.820 However, I should put this in greater context, that Christopher Freeland has been in contact

00:14:54.780 with her counterparts, and it's sort of at that high-level sort of position right now,

00:14:59.180 where it's at the decision-maker level.

00:15:00.740 I'm not saying that Steve Ruhl's role is not incredibly vital.

00:15:04.000 He is Canada's chief negotiator.

00:15:05.620 So, hearing that, there is a bigger context there, and there are conversations happening,

00:15:09.780 but it's not the formal talks.

00:15:12.140 So, they're giggling.

00:15:14.420 They were giggling about that.

00:15:16.860 They think at worst it's a slightly awkward PR moment.

00:15:19.820 Bit of a gaffe.

00:15:21.440 We need a bit of spin here, but nothing more than that.

00:15:23.560 Just a communications issue.

00:15:25.440 They were giggling.

00:15:28.020 There's nothing to see here.

00:15:29.180 There's nothing to see here.

00:15:30.260 Really?

00:15:31.800 Well, sure, because they hate Donald Trump, too, just as much as Trudeau does.

00:15:34.860 They don't understand tough things like NAFTA.

00:15:37.620 That's for old, boring, white guys who don't understand being woke and male feminism and global warming.

00:15:45.620 And after all, if they ask tough questions or if they don't bury the lead here,

00:15:49.580 maybe they'll lose their government journalism job.

00:15:52.020 Maybe they won't get a Senate appointment. 0.57

00:15:53.580 Oh, didn't you see?

00:15:55.500 Trudeau just appointed another CBC journalist directly to the Senate.

00:15:58.460 There's a message there.

00:16:02.760 If you want your $1.5 billion annual CBC taxpayer bailout, toe the liberal line.

00:16:09.120 And if you're a political reporter and you want your personal multi-million dollar payoff,

00:16:14.400 you better toe the liberal line.

00:16:16.040 Canada's lead negotiator just confesses things are going awful and we're in a slow-motion car crash

00:16:24.140 and just giggle about it.

00:16:25.580 Just say it's a little gaffe.

00:16:28.160 Then again, I suppose that is fair.

00:16:31.860 The 160,000 Ontarians who will lose their jobs,

00:16:35.340 none of them work for the CBC, do they?

00:16:39.620 Stay with us for more on this with Manny Montemigrino.

00:17:00.160 Do you still meet your counterpart?

00:17:02.920 Do you still have committee that are working?

00:17:06.020 What is the status of the division?

00:17:07.860 We don't have any active questions.

00:17:12.280 Since two or three weeks, I'll have the odd conversation,

00:17:17.960 but no real engagement, no real negotiating session.

00:17:23.540 And when you were close to a kind of an NOU, 0.91

00:17:28.420 what was the place of the division?

00:17:31.800 What were the division?

00:17:32.860 Well, the gentleman sitting next to Christia Freeland was Steve Verhul,

00:17:41.700 Canada's chief NAFTA negotiator,

00:17:44.520 who says that there has been no engagement,

00:17:47.160 no negotiation of any substance between Canada and the United States

00:17:50.820 since the G7 meeting two or three weeks ago.

00:17:53.720 I find that terrifying, but let's go to an expert on negotiations

00:17:58.400 and Canada-US relations, our friend Manny Montemigrino,

00:18:03.840 a former national partner at a serious law firm in Ottawa,

00:18:07.140 former lawyer to Prime Minister Stephen Harper,

00:18:09.600 and a political watcher who's the president and CEO of ThinkSharp Incorporated.

00:18:14.360 Manny, I thought that was a bombshell.

00:18:18.280 Well, no conversation between Canada and the states in three weeks.

00:18:22.580 What do you make of that?

00:18:24.040 Well, I'm not surprised.

00:18:25.660 I mean, it's falling into exactly what I've said.

00:18:29.060 I don't think that this government, Justin Trudeau,

00:18:32.580 wants to negotiate in good faith any trade agreement with the United States.

00:18:38.620 I mean, if you think about it,

00:18:40.260 everyone is saying that uncertainty equals risk,

00:18:44.560 risk equals collapse in market.

00:18:46.600 All they're doing is adding more uncertainty.

00:18:49.640 And I can only think partly is they want to ramp up the problems

00:18:54.640 with the Trump hate voters in Canada,

00:18:57.320 and this adds to what they want to do.

00:19:00.760 Well, I looked through some reports by leading Canadian banks.

00:19:06.120 I'm talking about TD Bank, Scotiabank, National Bank.

00:19:09.900 These are not political outfits, I don't think.

00:19:11.880 If they have any politics, I think they're pro-Canada,

00:19:15.100 and they're probably a little anti-Trump, to be honest.

00:19:18.020 Each of them predicts an economic calamity.

00:19:20.820 We're talking about 160,000 job losses, 2% recession kind of thing.

00:19:28.600 So, how does Justin Trudeau know that those are the real scientific risks?

00:19:35.420 So, it's not just politics.

00:19:36.560 We're talking about hundreds of thousands, potentially jobs.

00:19:39.540 Manny, how can that be part of a Trudeau strategy?

00:19:42.580 Well, if you follow it as I have very carefully,

00:19:46.440 the beginning of 2018,

00:19:49.060 our GDP was downward to 1.3%.

00:19:53.140 We have lost, since 2018, 55,000 jobs.

00:19:57.700 We have had our dollar drop about 10%.

00:20:01.740 Now, if you think of it, our buying power from America, $350 billion,

00:20:06.460 a 10% drop is equivalent to a tariff, if you want to call it,

00:20:10.700 of importing goods of 10%.

00:20:12.460 That's $35 billion that's going to cost all the consumers in Canada.

00:20:17.760 So, we have already been on a downward trend.

00:20:20.660 And this government, it's not because of NAFTA,

00:20:23.820 because of a lot of other things it's done.

00:20:25.980 So, if you can wrap everything up in NAFTA,

00:20:29.100 and wrap everything up into a failure,

00:20:31.320 you can hide a poor economy that's happened before these NAFTA discussions.

00:20:35.800 You know, I'm just thinking of how big of a crisis I think this is.

00:20:40.480 And I could be wrong.

00:20:41.320 You're closer to the seat of power than I've ever been.

00:20:44.340 Sometimes a physical presence by senior hands makes a difference.

00:20:49.520 I remember on 9-11, and you probably remember this too, Manny,

00:20:52.640 when Tony Blair, the prime minister,

00:20:55.180 flew to Washington just to be there in person.

00:20:59.020 I mean, I don't think he really was there for any substantive thing.

00:21:02.700 He was just there to say, this is your battle of Britain.

00:21:06.400 You know, this is your moment that counts, and I'm here.

00:21:09.420 And I would think that Trudeau would be having emergency cabinet meetings.

00:21:14.700 Maybe he would take his whole cabinet down to Washington, D.C.

00:21:17.800 Maybe he would call in Brian Mulroney, John Manley, Frank McGee.

00:21:21.880 He would call in all sorts of elder statesmen from both,

00:21:25.660 maybe even bite his tongue and call Stephen Harper and say,

00:21:29.600 hey, we've been rivals, but I need your help for the country.

00:21:32.440 And tell me, Chrétien, Martin, Harper wouldn't come to his aid if they asked him.

00:21:38.960 Instead, Justin Trudeau is taking personal days.

00:21:41.300 It's like he doesn't even know there's an alarm ringing.

00:21:43.980 Well, if you look at it very carefully, Ezra, there isn't much to be done.

00:21:49.060 You don't need these experts that we've had in the past.

00:21:52.760 There is basically no trade difference between Canada and U.S.

00:21:57.940 There's a slight variance depending on you look at it.

00:22:00.060 The United States is not asking for anything unreasonable.

00:22:04.200 They've presented, they'll take a bilateral agreement.

00:22:07.940 They'll do a deal quickly.

00:22:09.900 What's happening with the delay, I think, it's because there's a Mexican election.

00:22:15.040 And Justin Trudeau and the liberals do not want to do this alone without Mexico.

00:22:20.020 Mexico has halted their discussions.

00:22:22.080 We could do it without Mexico, bring certainty to ourselves, 1.00

00:22:25.820 bring certainty to the Canadian economy.

00:22:28.320 But that's why there's a delay.

00:22:31.020 I think we're waiting for Mexico.

00:22:32.320 There isn't anything that we need any expertise.

00:22:35.180 This deal could have been done in a very short order.

00:22:39.140 There isn't anything that's offensive that America has asked for,

00:22:42.940 so long as we drop a few things that most people think that's offensive.

00:22:48.300 Ezra, there's another problem that's happening that Canadians haven't been looking at.

00:22:53.300 And that is, while we are engaged in doing nothing,

00:22:59.180 Trump has gone to China, has gone to Japan, has gone to South Korea.

00:23:03.720 Now, let me give you the second phase of what this problem could be.

00:23:07.380 China has a $375 billion surplus with the United States.

00:23:12.660 Japan has a $55 billion surplus with the United States.

00:23:16.880 South Korea has a $30 billion surplus.

00:23:19.480 And they're negotiating it away.

00:23:22.000 Think of it.

00:23:22.900 If you're doing your massive trade with the United States,

00:23:25.760 and you are in a surplus with them, and you have Trump knocking on your door,

00:23:30.900 what is China, Japan, and South Korea going to do to please its largest customer?

00:23:35.900 They're going to shift their buying preferences to America.

00:23:40.940 By way of example, if there is a $20 billion purchase of resources from China in Canada,

00:23:51.120 all they have to do is start buying that from America,

00:23:54.620 and that reduces the surplus and reduces the disparity.

00:24:00.300 The second phase that's going to hurt Canada is when all the countries, 0.94

00:24:04.200 and I will include the EU in this, because there is a deficit as well.

00:24:08.620 In order to bring balance, they're going to have to shift their buying, 0.74

00:24:12.900 and they're going to shift it to prefer the American producer, whether it be we,

00:24:17.860 whether it be anything that we produce with America.

00:24:21.260 And if we had a small little advantage over America, China, Japan, South Korea, EU will say,

00:24:27.820 you know what, just to stop the trade war and to bring balance with our biggest and best customer in America,

00:24:34.520 let's buy America and let's not buy Canada.

00:24:36.940 And by the way, Canada doesn't care.

00:24:39.560 Canada's not fighting.

00:24:40.880 Canada's not scrapping.

00:24:42.140 So let's buy wheat from America.

00:24:45.000 Let's buy minerals from America.

00:24:47.020 Let's buy lumber from America.

00:24:48.940 And let's not worry about Canada because they're not in the game.

00:24:52.360 That's the second problem.

00:24:53.780 Manny, let me add one more wrinkle, and that is on the military side.

00:24:57.360 Donald Trump has been pressuring NATO allies like Germany to increase their military spending

00:25:02.920 to come closer to the 2% of GDP target.

00:25:05.360 I understand that he's demanding $20 billion a year more from Canada.

00:25:10.920 And again, we can tell him to buzz off, but then don't expect America to be our, you know,

00:25:18.040 older buddy, you know, senior partner in national defense.

00:25:22.060 That's something that I don't see the Trudeau liberals going along with happily either.

00:25:27.580 You've got trade demands, which I think are reasonable.

00:25:29.940 You think are reasonable.

00:25:31.120 Trudeau's adamant.

00:25:32.060 And now you have military demands that's very much contrary to Trudeau's leftism.

00:25:37.560 What do you think is going to happen there?

00:25:39.140 Well, I have tweeted this almost two years ago when Donald Trump threw his name in the hat.

00:25:47.660 I understood the numbers.

00:25:49.200 I looked at him.

00:25:49.920 I took him as a credible person.

00:25:52.360 He had said almost two years ago that there's a NATO problem.

00:25:55.940 You Google it.

00:25:56.840 You find out.

00:25:57.640 And you say, oh, good.

00:25:59.180 Look at this.

00:25:59.980 Canada pays about $20 billion less.

00:26:02.100 Knowing that, and I knew that two years ago, knowing that, why would you monkey around with NAFTA, knowing that that's also going to be a risk?

00:26:11.900 We have opened Canada up, and that risk is not going to go away.

00:26:15.640 Because we have not been, I'll say, friendly with the United States, because we've taken every shot at the president, the $20 billion is a real demand, and it will come out of Canada.

00:26:28.020 Just so Canadians know, $20 billion is about 8% of what the government spends in total.

00:26:34.540 We're running $20 billion worth of deficits now.

00:26:37.580 And so an additional $20 billion means a substantial amount of services that will ultimately go away.

00:26:44.880 So this is the additional risk.

00:26:47.540 Trump will not let this go.

00:26:49.180 And he's right about it.

00:26:50.440 And NATO has said he's right about it.

00:26:52.300 Well, and that's the thing is, the dairy cartel, I mean, it's not like Trump is being aggressive and doing, asking for the end of our dairy cartel, 270% tariffs, asking that we come closer to the spending of American NATO spending.

00:27:11.040 Those aren't, Trump isn't holding us to a double standard.

00:27:14.700 He's asking us to come closer to his standard, and I just don't know how easy it's to rile Canadians up and say Trump's being unfair.

00:27:23.540 And if Trump was unfair, I think Canadian leaders would probably have to say so and be thoughtful about how to negotiate it.

00:27:32.220 It's just tougher to say, no, we don't want to pay our fair share of military, and we want to hang on to these obviously unfair dairy cartels.

00:27:39.400 It just seems intransigent.

00:27:40.900 I put the question, and I put the question in a different way.

00:27:46.540 Here's my question.

00:27:48.140 How much do we satisfy Canadians' Trump hate, which we get from the media 24-7?

00:27:55.860 We have our prime minister taking shots at either Donald Trump personally or the policies of America, which they ran on and which they're executing.

00:28:05.760 But how much are Canadians prepared to pay?

00:28:08.460 And I've got a list.

00:28:09.420 There's going to be a $20 repayment of NATO per year.

00:28:14.420 There's going to be a trade issue.

00:28:17.260 There's going to – and that we can estimate at maybe between $50 to $100 billion.

00:28:21.840 There's going to be the auto sector.

00:28:23.960 That is about $100 billion.

00:28:25.720 And then there's going to be the loss of investments that we've seen that are going to go to America.

00:28:30.880 And in addition to that, we're no longer going to be able to ride in the front seat with America as world leaders.

00:28:38.100 If we are put in the back seat or if we are put in the trunk and we're no longer up there with America, with Germany, with the UK, and we slowly lose it, it could mean a devastation to Canada.

00:28:53.320 So I ask Canadians, how much are you willing to pay for a fabricated Trump narrative hate that it seems to be pervasive in our media for no good reason except for destroying Canada?

00:29:07.720 Yeah. I think you're right. I don't think this fight was even likely to happen.

00:29:14.300 I think we could have dodged it.

00:29:15.760 Donald Trump has never shown an aggression to Canada.

00:29:18.320 He's got a beef with China, a beef with Mexico for a long time, a beef with OPEC.

00:29:22.500 He's never focused on Canada.

00:29:24.580 I truly believe we kept flicking his nose and flicking him and poking him.

00:29:29.360 And finally, we've got the lion's attention.

00:29:32.020 You don't want the lion's attention when you're a little bit more like a little lamb.

00:29:35.460 Last word to you, Manny.

00:29:37.400 Yeah, well, exactly that.

00:29:39.020 From the beginning, the president and I said, Canada's not a problem.

00:29:43.440 We can do a bilateral deal.

00:29:44.980 Canada's not a problem.

00:29:46.100 Canada's not a problem.

00:29:46.940 He's repeated it.

00:29:47.900 And the numbers reflect that.

00:29:49.660 What we have done in order, in my opinion, in order to get, and I see it with my friends.

00:29:55.760 I see it wherever I go that people are saying, oh, Donald Trump's a bully.

00:29:59.800 Let's stand by Canada.

00:30:01.100 That's working.

00:30:02.700 And it's working for Justin Trudeau.

00:30:04.500 And I don't know how much we're prepared to pay for this fight that we cannot win and

00:30:10.840 this fight that's going to hurt us.

00:30:12.220 It is remarkable.

00:30:13.900 Yeah.

00:30:14.260 I tell you, I have a deep affection for Alberta oil men who have suffered so much over the

00:30:19.300 last two years.

00:30:20.100 And I have this premonition that Ontario auto workers may face a similar hardship if we don't

00:30:27.360 pull out of this trajectory.

00:30:30.560 Ezra, I don't think we can stop it.

00:30:33.520 But I think one thing we have converted, and I've been in boardrooms with billionaires similar

00:30:39.740 to Donald Trump.

00:30:40.760 Once we have basically threw down the gauntlet, there is no way that Donald Trump is not going

00:30:47.020 to take the challenge.

00:30:48.260 We didn't have to do it.

00:30:49.860 And Donald Trump, even if the numbers don't reflect it, even if, I mean, you recall what

00:30:54.580 he said when there was a press conference by Justin Trudeau right after the G7.

00:31:00.280 It humiliated him, and it made him look weak going to North Korea.

00:31:05.760 And that is how he sees himself.

00:31:07.920 We are continually trying to make him look weak, either to the world or elsewhere.

00:31:12.660 And that's going to be a very expensive bill.

00:31:15.060 And for no reason at all.

00:31:16.900 But it's going to cost Canadians a fortune.

00:31:19.000 Yeah.

00:31:19.560 Well, Manny, it's always great to talk with you.

00:31:21.320 I should say your last video, it was a very interesting video, I thought.

00:31:25.780 And our viewers agreed more than 100,000 views of that video.

00:31:30.060 And the number one source of views was Americans watching the video.

00:31:34.680 Wow.

00:31:34.700 So I think that your point of view is, it's underrepresented in the mainstream media.

00:31:42.480 And I think people were craving your straight talk, Manny.

00:31:45.820 And I have no doubt that this conversation will be well-received as well.

00:31:50.700 Thank you for fighting for Canada.

00:31:52.160 Thank you, Ezra.

00:31:53.280 Ezra, I do this because I really love this country, and no one is speaking for this country.

00:31:58.260 And I see crass politics.

00:32:00.960 You know, I fought this in 1995.

00:32:02.760 And I believe crass politics will harm Canada.

00:32:06.740 And I will speak against conservatives.

00:32:08.780 I will speak against liberals.

00:32:10.300 I will speak against our government to protect Canada.

00:32:13.540 Well, I'm glad you are, Manny.

00:32:15.100 And hopefully it'll make a difference.

00:32:17.280 We'll talk to you soon, my friend, and we'll keep an eye on this story.

00:32:20.400 All right.

00:32:20.640 Thank you.

00:32:21.300 Take care.

00:32:22.040 Thank you.

00:32:22.460 That's our friend Manny Montanagrino.

00:32:24.220 He's the president and CEO of Think Sharp.

00:32:28.180 Stay with us.

00:32:29.060 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:32:32.760 Welcome back.

00:32:42.500 Well, there's an entire industry, oh, and I mean industry.

00:32:45.740 It is well-funded and well-paying of demonizing conservatives as haters.

00:32:52.260 And there's lists of haters and hate speech.

00:32:55.320 I think what it really means are people that the left themselves hate, but groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center, they come up with lists, very damning lists of people they consider to be haters.

00:33:08.600 It was interesting, as you saw in our show the other week, they called Majid Nawaz, a liberal Muslim reformer in London.

00:33:17.680 They called him a hater and an anti-Muslim.

00:33:21.100 He crowdfunded a lawsuit.

00:33:23.920 He threatened to sue them.

00:33:25.280 And not only did they submit, did they settle, but they gave him a groveling video apology and paid him more than three million dollars.

00:33:36.440 Well, that's just a tiny dent to them and their 400 million dollar endowment.

00:33:40.800 But I see they're at it again.

00:33:42.240 Let me read to you from their anti-Muslim roundup of this week.

00:33:46.020 It's titled the following is a list of activities and events of anti-Muslim organizations, organizations listed as anti-Muslim hate groups are designated with an asterisk and the defamation goes on page after page.

00:34:00.780 Let me skip to the end because one of our friends is on the list.

00:34:05.160 And let me ask you before we go to our friend, does anything in here come even close to a reasonable or plain definition of the word hate?

00:34:13.820 Let me quote to you exactly what they say is hateful.

00:34:17.500 There has been a very large uncontrolled immigration to Western countries.

00:34:21.360 I think it's just the beginning.

00:34:23.480 There are hundreds of millions of people from poor, less well-governed countries who wish to come to the West. 1.00

00:34:30.100 It is, I think, one of the great problems of the future.

00:34:33.420 Much of the focus is on the immigrants and what they're doing and the left and its appeasement of immigrants and particularly Muslim immigrants and most especially Islamist immigrants.

00:34:43.820 So where's the hateful part?

00:34:46.020 Is that not just an observation about immigration and a prediction?

00:34:49.340 Well, that was issued, that was spoken by our friend Daniel Pipes, the president of the Middle East Forum.

00:34:56.820 And yet the Southern Poverty Law Center says that is hateful.

00:34:59.660 Joining us now via Skype from Warsaw, Poland is Daniel Pipes.

00:35:03.820 Daniel, welcome to the show.

00:35:05.540 What on earth do they, how is that hateful?

00:35:08.020 It's an observation of immigration.

00:35:09.560 The United Nations has said the same thing about numbers.

00:35:12.340 We know it's true.

00:35:13.800 Why does the SPLC think that's hateful?

00:35:18.440 You'd really have to ask them.

00:35:20.020 But if I were to gander a reply, it would be that we who are conservative are stupid and hateful by our nature.

00:35:31.480 And therefore, when we open our mouths and type out a sentence, we are being hateful.

00:35:36.120 And it doesn't really matter what the specifics are.

00:35:38.780 We are bad people.

00:35:40.180 We need to be called.

00:35:41.080 Well, here's what surprises me, is that they're throwing the term around so cavalierly, just days after paying out $3 million plus to Majid Nawaz.

00:35:53.820 I mean, I don't know all the details of his case.

00:35:57.640 It just strikes me that such an enormous settlement, they must have been afraid of something coming out at trial.

00:36:03.620 Either the damage is done to him or perhaps, you know, if they had to disclose their records, who put them up to it?

00:36:11.460 Who demanded it?

00:36:12.480 Were they paid cash?

00:36:14.480 You know, was this like an anti-endorsement?

00:36:17.780 They accepted money from, oh, I don't know, George Soros in order to smear people.

00:36:22.160 I think that there's, we don't know the whole story there because the settlement's so spectacular.

00:36:27.440 They obviously haven't learned their lesson if they're still smearing people like you and Annie Cyrus.

00:36:33.180 And I see a lot of the people they're attacking are former Muslims who have a real experience at the hands of Islamism. 0.81

00:36:39.120 It's shocking the way they go after victims of Islam and call them anti-Muslim.

00:36:46.520 I'd make two observations.

00:36:47.900 The first is that imagine Nawaz lives in Britain and therefore the rules might be quite different.

00:36:53.980 We in the United States have something called the Sullivan Law that basically precludes someone with a public profile from being able to sue someone who defames.

00:37:04.140 And Nawaz, in Britain, like you're in Canada, don't have that.

00:37:09.240 You can go after it with a thing.

00:37:12.240 Secondly, you've mentioned several times it was a settlement.

00:37:15.340 I want to emphasize that.

00:37:16.580 They think of it in court.

00:37:18.220 Nawaz simply got a strong, well-written letter from a prominent law firm and that got him the money.

00:37:25.720 So now the question is, are they inclined to do this again?

00:37:30.200 Are they fearful?

00:37:30.820 Well, of all those 900-plus, they've determined to be haters.

00:37:36.440 But what if something happens to them?

00:37:38.260 We have a couple of cases where those they're deemed to be haters were physically attacked.

00:37:42.680 The Family Research Council in Washington.

00:37:45.840 Steve Scalise, a leading member of the Republican House.

00:37:49.700 Are they opening themselves up to damages, enormous damages, much bigger damages than they've been out so far?

00:37:58.660 I can't at this point say what I'm going to do.

00:38:01.660 But I'm certainly keeping the door open to the possibility of going to them.

00:38:05.840 And by the way, they've attacked me in this way many times before, including I was one of the 15, along with my general ones.

00:38:11.220 They called anti-listing haters almost two years ago.

00:38:14.000 So the door is open, considering my options.

00:38:18.900 But at this point, I can't see what I'm doing.

00:38:21.120 Yeah, well, that's very interesting.

00:38:22.680 I mean, of course, Maji Nawaz may have sued or threatened to sue in the U.K., but the SPLC is the United States.

00:38:29.820 So it's interesting to me because I don't know how much luck he would have had collecting a U.K. judgment in the United States because of some of those First Amendment defenses you referred to.

00:38:43.660 I think that this is a larger global strategy.

00:38:49.180 And I don't say this is a conspiracy theorist, but Dr. Pipes, I don't know if you know this.

00:38:53.260 Shortly after Justin Trudeau was elected prime minister, he met with George Soros in New York, and they talked about immigration, especially Muslim immigration to the West.

00:39:06.180 And I thought it was big news, but very few agreed with me, I guess.

00:39:10.400 The government of Canada signed a contract with Soros' Open Societies Foundation contracting out immigration policy, at least in regards to Muslim migrants, to Soros.

00:39:24.400 And there was sort of a three—and this is on Justin Trudeau's own Government of Canada website.

00:39:31.040 This is not a conspiracy.

00:39:32.080 There were three points of cooperation, and the third was to create a narrative in support of Muslim immigration to the West.

00:39:42.500 So the first two were about actual policy.

00:39:44.620 The third was about shaping the public discussion.

00:39:48.080 So if Soros is doing a business deal with governments about shaping and spinning, I wonder who's behind the scenes hiring a third-party arm's-length NGO like the SPLC to demonize, to attack.

00:40:03.520 Because I think that there are larger forces at play than just some, you know, junior researcher in the bowels of the SPLC in Montgomery, Alabama.

00:40:12.140 I think that the whole strategy of the globalist left is to smear any voices to the contrary, like you.

00:40:19.800 Frankly, I'm shocked I haven't been included in the list, too.

00:40:23.600 I'll do something about that if I can.

00:40:26.600 You know, it's a major undertaking, but I think it's a losing undertaking.

00:40:30.300 You mentioned I'm in Warsaw.

00:40:31.800 Poland, Hungary, Czechia, Austria, you know, Italy have fundamentally changed their policies or have policies in place.

00:40:40.560 And I expect this will be the case in many, many other countries, including Canada, in years ahead.

00:40:55.120 So good luck to them.

00:40:56.540 They're fighting an uphill battle.

00:40:58.340 As time goes on, as people see the problems associated with uncontrolled illegal immigration, and especially Muslim, most especially Islamists, they're saying no to it. 0.93

00:41:08.160 I want to ask one question.

00:41:10.940 I mean, I'm Jewish.

00:41:13.700 You know, it doesn't animate everything I do, but it does color some of my thinking on some issues, including Israel.

00:41:19.660 I think I would be pro-Israel even if I wasn't Jewish. 0.62

00:41:22.220 I'm pro-Taiwan, and I'm not Taiwanese. 0.91

00:41:25.760 You know, I see it as a little democracy next to a big dictatorship.

00:41:31.780 You're conservative.

00:41:33.120 Yeah, I think so.

00:41:34.700 I mean, Taiwan, that's why I support South Korea.

00:41:36.580 That's why I'm sympathetic to the Kurds.

00:41:39.200 It's not for ethics.

00:41:39.840 My way of putting it is, I know your position on taxes.

00:41:42.680 I know your position is on it.

00:41:44.920 Well, I mean, I think there is some overlap, but I'm not an ex-Jew or a post-Jew. 0.54

00:41:52.480 As some Jewish liberals who, you know, being Jewish is a slight embarrassment, and if anything, they just use it to play the race card sometimes.

00:41:59.620 My point is, it means something to me, and yet the hard left, the alt left, they throw the epithet Nazi or neo-Nazi out even at, and I'm, you know, I'm not very observant, but I feel Jewish.

00:42:18.360 I feel like it's a special kind of language of oppression to take the word Nazi and take it as gag, duct tape over the mountain.

00:42:28.680 It was.

00:42:30.120 Over, but not just that.

00:42:31.700 Like, I see on the list one of our former reporters, Laura Loomer, is on the list.

00:42:36.940 And whatever else you think about Laura, she's a proud Jew, and to take that duct tape and put it over her mouth and say, you shut up.

00:42:44.760 You're not allowed to be worried about Islam. 0.97

00:42:47.160 Jews who went through the Holocaust two generations ago are not allowed to be worried about those who call for the Holocaust now.

00:42:54.040 We're going to call you a Nazi to shut you up, and you have to be a quiet victim.

00:42:59.620 I think there's something especially odious about them shutting up either former Muslims or Jews who are genuinely and in good faith worried about Islam targeting them.

00:43:11.660 No argument.

00:43:13.080 I think this began about the time of the Lebanon War in 1982.

00:43:17.900 I recall feeling shocked when I first saw Israel, the Israelis being called Nazis.

00:43:24.580 It's just beyond belief.

00:43:26.120 By now, 35 years later, it's routine, as you would notice, but it was definitely an outrage, a shock, a university.

00:43:35.600 Last question to you, Professor.

00:43:38.700 I appreciate you taking so much time, and I know the time zone's late over there.

00:43:44.080 What is shocking to you and me now is normal on many university campuses across the West.

00:43:51.040 I think that the most anti-Semitic, anti-Israel, and frankly, anti-American, and they all go together, the most anti-American places in North America are the university campuses.

00:44:05.040 I'm so sorry, my phone went off there.

00:44:06.920 I think the most anti-Semitic places are university campuses.

00:44:10.980 And what can we do?

00:44:12.980 Let me respond quickly to that and say, and drop two names.

00:44:19.080 One is Mohammed bin Salman, the Prime Prince of Saudi Arabia, and the other is Jeremy Corbyn, the leader of the opposition in Britain.

00:44:25.640 I mention them because Muslims are no longer as solidly anti-Zionist as they used to be.

00:44:31.520 Of course, there's still plenty who are, but there's a lot of rethinking.

00:44:34.440 Whereas the left is increasingly, and without brakes, getting more and more anti-Israel, anti-Semitic, and the like.

00:44:43.320 It's very striking.

00:44:44.800 It is a radical reversal of a country to speak.

00:44:49.460 Well, I find it very troubling, and I look forward to hearing your reports upon your return from Poland.

00:44:54.800 I understand you're going to some of those other countries you listed earlier.

00:44:57.540 Hopefully, there will be some sort of template there that we can learn from in Canada and the United States as we try and fight this same situation, too.

00:45:06.860 It's nice for you to make the time for us today.

00:45:09.340 Dr. Pipes, great to see you again.

00:45:12.160 Thank you.

00:45:12.760 All right.

00:45:13.140 Thanks very much.

00:45:13.740 That's Dr. Daniel Pipes.

00:45:14.860 He's the president of the Middle East Forum.

00:45:17.280 Stay with us.

00:45:17.780 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:45:18.420 Thank you.

00:45:19.420 Thank you.

00:45:20.420 Thank you.

00:45:21.420 Thank you.

00:45:22.420 Thank you.

00:45:23.420 Thank you.

00:45:24.420 Thank you.

00:45:25.420 Thank you.

00:45:26.420 Thank you.

00:45:27.420 Hey, welcome back.

00:45:30.560 On my monologue Friday, I have of the media with their hoax of a crying girl saying she was separated from her mother, using that to attack Donald Trump.

00:45:38.380 James writes, how could anyone believe the fake news in time with the CBC?

00:45:44.100 There was more truth in Soviet Pravda.

00:45:47.080 Well, I think Pravda, everyone in the Soviet Union knew it was government propaganda, and so they adjusted accordingly.

00:45:53.800 Maybe not everybody, but I think a lot of people did.

00:45:55.760 Here in our media, I think we still have a trust there.

00:46:00.340 So people would say, well, Newsweek, Time, they wouldn't lie.

00:46:02.720 Maybe some people are more skeptical of state broadcasters like the CBC, but even though I don't think so, I don't think we are as alert to the fake news as Russians were of Pravda. 0.78

00:46:12.120 Temmi writes, there was approximately five inches of separation between mother and child.

00:46:17.740 I hope she is deported again. 0.66

00:46:19.160 The father of this small child would be wise to seek sole custody of all four children.

00:46:23.220 Anyone who says Time magazine's cover was metaphorical is kidding themselves.

00:46:26.400 This was pure propaganda to manufacture public outrage.

00:46:29.220 Absolutely, and like I say, it was so reminiscent of little Aylan Kurdi, who, tragic as his death was, what a miracle that the Reuters photographer was right there.

00:46:41.200 And even though we saw the aunt of Aylan Kurdi say that his dad was just taking him to Germany because his dad wanted free dental care.

00:46:47.660 Yeah, that was left out of the official narrative, wasn't it?

00:46:50.820 Well, folks, I tell you, I'm going to Israel with about 60 of our rebel superfans.

00:46:57.400 I've mentioned it on the show before.

00:46:58.880 We call it Rebel Israel. 0.83

00:47:00.180 And we're going for an educational trip.

00:47:02.620 It's going to be a little bit touristy, but we're going to have briefings from the military and political leaders.

00:47:07.600 And we're going to tour hotspots.

00:47:09.680 We're going right to the border with Gaza.

00:47:11.480 We're going right to the north in the Golan Heights.

00:47:14.060 It's going to be an exciting 10 days altogether.

00:47:15.840 And we do it because it's fun and it's interesting.

00:47:19.100 We get to hang out with our most enthusiastic viewers.

00:47:21.140 But it's also a fundraiser for the rebel.

00:47:23.620 So it helps pay our bills here.

00:47:25.620 I will be taking a lot of friends from the rebel with me, and we will be producing a ton of videos from there.

00:47:31.640 So I hope you find that interesting.

00:47:33.060 What I've done for the next week, though, is I have prerecorded special long form interviews with some of the most interesting folks you can imagine.

00:47:42.460 So I still will have a daily show at 8 p.m. Eastern.

00:47:47.700 I'll just give you some teasers of some of the shows.

00:47:50.480 I interviewed Robert Spencer at length about his new book called The History of Jihad.

00:47:54.580 Very interesting.

00:47:56.060 Talked to Barbara Kaye at great length about a meeting she had with a Yazidi rape slave who found, on a bus in Canada, her ISIS rapist.

00:48:08.820 I don't mean to scare you, but that's what that story was about.

00:48:12.540 We covered the gamut.

00:48:13.680 We talked to Mark Morano, the boss of Climate Depot, for an update on how the global warming battle is going 500 or so days into Trump's presidency.

00:48:22.260 We have a very special 4th of July show.

00:48:24.480 So we have prerecorded some long form new content for every single day.

00:48:28.680 Plus, after those interviews which we prerecorded, we will have daily updates from Israel fresh that day.

00:48:36.500 So I hope you enjoy that.

00:48:38.160 And maybe if you like what you see, maybe you want to come on our next trip.

00:48:42.920 I don't know where that will be.

00:48:44.080 I mean, Israel's, it's a very far way to go. 1.00

00:48:46.720 In 10 days is a long way to go.

00:48:48.560 But maybe we will do other events closer to home.

00:48:52.000 I don't know.

00:48:52.660 But hopefully you'll find the videos enjoyable enough that you'll want to join us next time.

00:48:57.060 Anyway, so you will see me tomorrow.

00:48:59.360 It'll just be a prerecorded show.

00:49:00.960 And I hope you tune in nonetheless.

00:49:03.000 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,

00:49:07.380 good night and keep fighting for freedom.

00:49:22.660 We'll see you next time.

00:49:31.040 Thank you.

00:49:31.540 Bye-bye.

00:49:32.400 Bye-bye.

00:49:33.300 Bye-bye.

00:49:35.260 Bye-bye.

00:49:36.920 Bye-bye.

00:49:39.100 Bye-bye.

00:49:49.960 Bye-bye.

Rebel News Podcast - June 26, 2018

“The most shocking video I've seen in a long time”： Canada’s NAFTA negotiator hasn't talked to U.S. counterparts since G7

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