Rebel News Podcast - The pandemic is over. Why are governments making masks mandatory now？

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. Today, I announce a new project called maskexemption.ca.

00:00:05.060 I sit down with a civil liberties lawyer and look through Toronto's mask bylaw and study the exemptions.

00:00:12.100 And there are exemptions.

00:00:13.680 And we've created a card that you can keep in your own wallet to show shopkeepers their obligations and your exemptions.

00:00:22.480 I hope you find this interesting.

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00:00:41.440 All right. Here's today's podcast.

00:00:47.640 You're listening to a Rebel News podcast.

00:00:49.920 Tonight, are you exempt from your city's mask bylaw?

00:01:02.420 It's July 20th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:05.360 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:11.080 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:15.120 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:21.020 You know, when the pandemic was in its earliest days, we didn't know how it was spread.

00:01:30.500 We didn't know how contagious it was, and we certainly didn't know how deadly it would be.

00:01:34.960 We knew one thing for sure.

00:01:36.840 China was lying about it the same way that the Soviet Union lied about Chernobyl.

00:01:40.940 In the end, Chernobyl claimed only about 100 lives.

00:01:44.600 I mean, it was an economic disaster, and of course, for those hundreds who died, some of them most painfully, it was a tragedy.

00:01:51.000 But in the end, the scale of the disaster was limited.

00:01:55.260 What would it be like with the Chinese virus that emanated from Wuhan?

00:02:00.460 We might never know until the fall of the Communist Party in China.

00:02:04.880 It took us till the end of the Soviet Union to learn the truth about Chernobyl.

00:02:07.900 But in those very early days, we didn't have reliable information.

00:02:12.480 People were scared, and reports came from Italy of the virus tearing through that first world country, too.

00:02:19.260 We look to countries like Taiwan, a country that's just across the Straits from China,

00:02:24.900 has a lot of back-and-forth flights to China,

00:02:28.040 and yet managed to contain the virus there with less than 10 deaths in total so far in a country of 23 million people.

00:02:36.840 One of the ways they did it, they said, was masks for everyone.

00:02:41.760 Cheap, clean, hygienic masks distributed for free at the country's drugstores, like a prescription.

00:02:48.160 You just pop by and pick up your mask allotment.

00:02:50.500 So precious were these masks that they banned their exports.

00:02:53.700 The Taiwanese government giving away to allies as gifts,

00:02:56.780 as compared to the unhygienic or flawed PPE that came from China itself.

00:03:01.900 But was it the masks that protected Taiwan, or was it their policy of a very strict quarantine?

00:03:09.900 For example, if Taiwanese citizens were in China, including in Wuhan,

00:03:15.100 they were simply not allowed back to Taiwan, even if they were citizens, if they had the virus.

00:03:22.580 There were also strict quarantines for people who had risk profiles.

00:03:26.040 So instead of letting the borders stay open and locking down the whole country,

00:03:31.100 they did what the medieval cities of Europe did during the plague.

00:03:35.040 They only put the sick people in quarantine to let the healthy people live free.

00:03:40.020 I say this now with some hindsight, because I remember in those early weeks

00:03:43.580 interviewing public health officials from Taiwan who said masks were a very important part of it.

00:03:49.480 And indeed, they did say so, and I believed it, and maybe they were.

00:03:52.180 But I can't help but thinking now that the most important part was the absolutely airtight quarantine

00:03:58.360 of people who actually were in virus areas.

00:04:02.960 Fast forward to July.

00:04:04.900 Thank God the pandemic is over.

00:04:07.340 Here's the chart of pandemic cases in Ontario.

00:04:12.640 Here's the chart from other jurisdictions.

00:04:15.700 The pandemic's over.

00:04:17.060 You can see it peaked in mid-April.

00:04:19.580 And thankfully, it was never more than a fraction of the doomsday scenarios

00:04:24.540 issued by every political leader in Canada.

00:04:28.000 So why, now that the pandemic has been over for more than two months,

00:04:32.260 why are there policies to bring in mandatory masks only now?

00:04:37.360 Back in March and April, when we didn't know the facts,

00:04:40.520 and when the best practitioners in the world, the Taiwanese, were giving out masks for everyone, 0.77

00:04:44.640 it would have made sense.

00:04:45.580 At least it was the best practices from the best country when the virus was still growing.

00:04:50.200 But now, months after the virus has receded, where many provinces haven't had a single new case in days,

00:04:56.140 let alone someone in hospital, where even the largest cities in Canada, like Toronto,

00:05:00.540 don't even have a single patient in an ICU in an entire hospital.

00:05:05.180 Why the mandatory masks just now?

00:05:10.160 Is it because Justin Trudeau bought $2 billion worth of masks months ago,

00:05:15.780 and they've only arrived now, grossly overpriced, and he wants to have a cause to use them?

00:05:21.380 Is that why?

00:05:22.800 Or is it more nefarious than that?

00:05:24.840 Is it to keep people in a state of fear, to condition people to obey, to keep control over the country?

00:05:33.220 That's what some people on the more paranoid end of the spectrum would say.

00:05:37.720 I don't know, but I don't like it, especially when it comes from politicians who themselves

00:05:42.160 don't seem to follow any of the rules that they have for the little people.

00:05:46.680 So today we talk about a website we've created called maskexemption.ca,

00:05:54.020 and it comes from my own personal experience here in Toronto, a city with an idiot mayor

00:05:58.240 who went to a crowded park where he did not socially distance himself from anyone,

00:06:04.080 and he wore the mask, bizarrely, under his chin while he talked to people.

00:06:09.480 That blooming idiot has now passed a law requiring everyone to wear a mask,

00:06:16.060 even when he did not do so weeks and weeks ago.

00:06:20.700 My own experience was I went into a Starbucks, and I was told by the young staff there to put on a mask,

00:06:25.480 and they didn't know the law, they didn't know the rule,

00:06:27.500 and I certainly wasn't going to debate with teenagers about it.

00:06:29.980 They just said for me to do it.

00:06:31.340 But I knew that the law had an exemption, a lot of exemptions actually.

00:06:37.020 It's actually quite a bizarre law.

00:06:38.960 If you think it applies to you, it applies to you.

00:06:42.160 But if you don't, if you have an exemption, then it doesn't apply to you,

00:06:46.800 and you're not required to explain why.

00:06:50.660 And so in today's show, we'll sit down with our civil liberties lawyer, Aaron Rosenberg,

00:06:55.420 and go through the Toronto bylaw and explain what you have to do and what you don't have to do,

00:07:01.380 and what shopkeepers are not allowed to do, and the risk to them if they try it.

00:07:06.180 This law is the worst in Canada, but there are other varieties of laws,

00:07:11.640 and over the weeks ahead, as we find out more mask laws around the country,

00:07:15.700 we'll update the website maskexemption.ca to address those specific bylaws.

00:07:21.380 So today's we'll focus on Toronto.

00:07:23.100 It's the biggest city in the country.

00:07:25.340 We'll explain the exemptions and how you can lawfully use them.

00:07:29.200 And most importantly, we'll publish on maskexemption.ca a simple, easy-to-understand legal guide

00:07:38.200 for shopkeepers and members of the public both,

00:07:41.960 so that we all know our rights and responsibilities under these laws.

00:07:46.340 Finally, we will have little laminated cards suitable for carrying in your wallet,

00:07:52.780 so when you go into a store and you're asked about your mask,

00:07:56.460 you can say the exemption, and if they don't believe you or trust you,

00:08:01.340 or if they start to grill you, you can take out your card and read the law.

00:08:06.200 And if that's not enough to convince them,

00:08:08.720 the website maskexemption.ca is right on the card,

00:08:13.100 and they can see for themselves.

00:08:14.600 Now, I don't recommend getting into a fuss or a fight.

00:08:18.140 The shopkeepers and the clerks who work at stores,

00:08:21.540 they're not the ones who wrote this foolish law.

00:08:23.820 The damn fool mayor is.

00:08:26.200 And I think it is a shucking off of responsibility

00:08:29.320 that the mayor is making shopkeepers the enforcers,

00:08:33.080 something that police or bylaw officers wouldn't or couldn't do.

00:08:36.860 So be polite out there.

00:08:38.940 Don't get into fights.

00:08:40.080 Don't raise the temperature.

00:08:41.240 But calmly and coolly educate people.

00:08:44.160 This is based on a project I saw the ACLU in the United States

00:08:48.080 giving people a little card to read when they're arrested.

00:08:51.000 their Miranda rights, what they should tell a police officer

00:08:54.680 just in their wallet.

00:08:56.920 This would be the same thing, but telling the clerk at your local shop.

00:09:01.640 You don't want to fight with them,

00:09:03.060 but neither do you want them to be used by a mayor to muzzle you.

00:09:07.780 Stay tuned for our episode of maskexemption.ca.

00:09:13.620 The other day I went to a Starbucks

00:09:26.880 and I was told by the teenage workers there

00:09:29.540 that I couldn't come in without a face mask.

00:09:31.900 Now, I've read the Toronto mask bylaw

00:09:34.300 and I know there's an exemption in it

00:09:36.040 and I told these kids that, but they're just kids.

00:09:39.320 They weren't going to, I didn't want to argue with them

00:09:41.540 and they weren't really in a position to argue with me

00:09:43.560 so I just stood at the door and they gave me my Starbucks

00:09:46.340 but I wasn't pleased with it.

00:09:48.160 Then I went to a neighborhood shop that I go into every week

00:09:50.860 and the lady there had a face mask on 1.00

00:09:53.060 but it wasn't even covering her nose.

00:09:55.360 She told me to put a mask on too

00:09:57.340 and I said, hang on, you're not even wearing your mask properly.

00:10:00.420 She said, I know, but I'm wearing it.

00:10:02.600 Put one on.

00:10:03.160 And I thought, I don't want to go around life

00:10:05.900 arguing with friends, people who I deal with on a regular basis

00:10:10.000 but neither do I want to have them

00:10:12.380 impose some unscientific mask law on me

00:10:16.180 now that the pandemic is over

00:10:18.340 and we know, well, really, the mask doesn't do much

00:10:21.180 and it certainly doesn't do anything now

00:10:22.880 and I also know that there are specific exemptions in the law.

00:10:28.120 And so I thought, what would happen if we helped educate shopkeepers everywhere

00:10:33.860 maybe with a little card

00:10:36.280 to teach them that there are exemptions in the law

00:10:39.800 and in fact, if they don't respect those exemptions

00:10:43.180 and worse, if they actually grill a customer like me

00:10:46.900 about the exemptions, that is against the law.

00:10:51.660 And so we came up with the idea of a card, a laminated card

00:10:54.780 that people in Toronto or other cities could have

00:10:57.420 and if other cities across Canada do bring in mask bylaws

00:11:02.020 we could have cards for those cities too

00:11:04.200 and you could get that card at a new website

00:11:07.860 maskexemption.ca

00:11:11.760 and for every jurisdiction, Toronto or any other places

00:11:16.600 that make a mandatory law rule

00:11:18.140 we would have right on the website

00:11:20.820 an explanation of the requirements

00:11:23.460 to provide proper exemptions

00:11:26.000 and joining me now in studio

00:11:27.560 to talk about the exemptions in Toronto's law

00:11:30.600 and there'll be other similar exemptions in laws around the country

00:11:35.220 is our friend Aaron Rosenberg

00:11:37.240 a lawyer with Relaw LLP

00:11:39.560 Aaron, great to see you again

00:11:40.860 Thank you so much

00:11:41.680 Now, the main thing that I as a citizen feel is I don't want to fight with people

00:11:47.160 who are my friends and neighbors and teenagers working at a Starbucks

00:11:51.100 I don't want to be the lawyer guy

00:11:53.400 but just because they don't know there's an exemption

00:11:56.580 I don't want to have them force me to put on a muzzle

00:11:59.860 especially now that there's next to zero risk

00:12:03.180 The law, and let's talk about Toronto's bylaw 541-2020 it's called

00:12:09.040 It actually has a long list of exemptions, doesn't it?

00:12:13.660 It sure does

00:12:14.160 Some of the exemptions include if you have an underlying medical condition

00:12:19.200 that makes it impossible for you to wear a mask

00:12:23.940 and the other, one of the other main ones that we'll be talking about

00:12:27.840 is where there's a protected ground under the human rights code

00:12:33.580 that is reasonably accommodated by not wearing the mask

00:12:37.920 So that could include, I don't know if it was your religion

00:12:40.680 or if there was some other inherent characteristic

00:12:44.460 that's sort of a human rights catch-all

00:12:48.280 that's section 2A5 of the law

00:12:51.120 I'll just read it

00:12:52.460 The policy shall include the following exemptions

00:12:55.880 from the requirement to wear a mask or face covering

00:12:57.880 persons who are reasonably accommodated

00:13:00.620 by not wearing a mask or face covering

00:13:02.920 in accordance with the Ontario Human Rights Code

00:13:05.380 That's the one I want to focus on today

00:13:07.020 So if someone has a medical condition, obviously

00:13:09.200 people under two years old

00:13:11.940 you know, little kids, not covered, obviously

00:13:14.600 people who need help to remove it or put it back on, obviously

00:13:18.120 but let's talk about 2A5

00:13:21.420 because that's the basis upon which a number of people

00:13:24.840 I think could legally carry a card

00:13:28.340 and say, hey, shopkeeper, don't want to fight

00:13:31.180 but please check out maskexemption.ca

00:13:33.840 and educate yourself

00:13:35.220 because not only do I have the right to be exempt from the mask

00:13:37.840 but if you ask me questions about it

00:13:40.100 that's against the law, isn't it?

00:13:42.700 Well, yeah, that's right

00:13:44.040 I mean, there is, it's very clear

00:13:46.460 okay, that a person does not need to

00:13:50.660 a patron does not need to provide proof

00:13:53.720 that they are exempted by one of these exemptions

00:13:57.740 which you just pointed out

00:13:58.700 but unfortunately, the way it appears

00:14:01.420 based on your experience and the experience of many others

00:14:03.900 is that there does need to be some sort of proof

00:14:08.700 something that people can show storekeepers

00:14:11.740 who otherwise just aren't aware of the law and the exemptions

00:14:15.720 to say, look, I need help

00:14:18.000 and it's no different than a handicap sticker, for example

00:14:21.400 which I think is the prime example

00:14:22.800 we don't require those that have some sort of disability

00:14:26.540 to express the disability every single time

00:14:30.940 they go somewhere in the city

00:14:32.880 instead, we have a very clear emblem that says

00:14:35.340 I need this parking spot

00:14:38.420 here's the sticker

00:14:39.640 it's a visual stamp that shows that

00:14:42.760 so that's why I think these mass exemption cards are important

00:14:45.620 because normally the people that need the exemption

00:14:49.760 or need the assistant the most

00:14:51.520 are the ones that need this type of support the most

00:14:55.400 and again, I don't blame the shopkeepers

00:14:58.360 I've encountered in the last few days

00:14:59.980 for not knowing the law

00:15:01.480 how could they?

00:15:02.220 They're not experts

00:15:03.080 this law was just cooked up

00:15:04.440 it's so weird that they're bringing in the mandatory mass now

00:15:07.340 in July, after the pandemic's over

00:15:10.040 instead of in March and April

00:15:11.700 when things were really iffy

00:15:13.360 and, you know, the first case I mentioned

00:15:17.860 of some teenage staffers at Starbucks

00:15:20.600 how on earth would they possibly know?

00:15:22.600 and you don't want to get into a fight

00:15:23.980 but if you just had a card that said

00:15:25.400 hey, click here guys

00:15:26.560 and just educate yourself a little bit on the law

00:15:29.280 because I don't want you

00:15:30.700 breaking the law of exemptions

00:15:32.560 let me read section 2D

00:15:35.900 so 2A outlined the exemptions

00:15:38.740 and we read one of them

00:15:39.540 but 2D says

00:15:41.060 the policy shall not require employees

00:15:44.860 or members of the public

00:15:47.040 to provide proof of any of the exemptions

00:15:50.220 set out in section 2A

00:15:52.100 so, I mean, I suppose you could

00:15:55.440 tell the shopkeeper what your exemption was

00:15:57.600 if you wanted to talk about it

00:15:59.460 but this would be like

00:16:01.400 if some shopkeeper said

00:16:03.300 prove you're handicapped 0.80

00:16:04.900 prove you can't use your legs

00:16:06.860 you're in a wheelchair 1.00

00:16:07.620 prove it

00:16:08.400 that would be crazy

00:16:09.740 same thing here

00:16:11.020 if you have an exemption

00:16:12.480 from this face mask

00:16:13.920 you could talk about it if you want

00:16:15.880 but no employee has the right

00:16:18.200 to make you prove it

00:16:19.380 is that what section 2D

00:16:20.980 of the bylaw says?

00:16:21.980 that's exactly what it says

00:16:23.320 that's the letter of the law

00:16:24.680 but what we're seeing

00:16:25.620 from the stories that are out there

00:16:27.600 from the reports

00:16:28.420 is that shopkeepers

00:16:29.920 and patrons

00:16:31.500 are having this tussle

00:16:33.260 over what is an exemption

00:16:35.700 who is exempted

00:16:37.140 what's a bona fide exemption

00:16:40.740 that's all happening

00:16:42.820 at the scene

00:16:43.840 of these establishments

00:16:45.280 and again

00:16:46.340 that's why it's so important

00:16:47.480 for people to be able

00:16:48.340 to know what their rights are

00:16:50.080 to prove that in fact

00:16:52.020 they do have an exemption

00:16:53.000 because the law says

00:16:55.480 you don't need to prove it

00:16:56.500 but in practice

00:16:57.080 it looks like

00:16:57.700 you're going to have to

00:16:58.740 we're going off

00:17:00.060 the Toronto City bylaw

00:17:01.320 elsewhere on our page

00:17:03.200 maskexemption.ca

00:17:04.380 we will look at the analogous wording

00:17:08.020 in the for example

00:17:09.200 there's a bunch of towns

00:17:10.980 and cities

00:17:11.540 in the Peel Regional Municipality

00:17:14.420 that have similar laws

00:17:16.100 I think that one city

00:17:18.280 writes the law

00:17:19.140 and another

00:17:19.720 a lot of others

00:17:20.500 just sort of cookie cutter

00:17:21.940 copy it

00:17:22.660 but we will have

00:17:24.340 the tweaked wording

00:17:25.200 for the different laws

00:17:26.180 I want to come to

00:17:28.440 one exemption

00:17:29.220 that I want to talk to you about

00:17:30.420 if you have a physical handicap

00:17:32.420 you can't put on a mask

00:17:33.660 you don't have the ability

00:17:34.300 to take it on or off

00:17:35.180 that's specifically laid out

00:17:38.740 in section 2A3

00:17:41.540 but section 2A5

00:17:46.540 says anything covered

00:17:48.160 with the Ontario Human Rights Code

00:17:49.680 so that's everything

00:17:50.520 from national origin

00:17:52.260 to gender

00:17:53.960 to physical ability

00:17:56.120 but they also have

00:17:57.620 one word in there

00:17:58.720 that I find interesting

00:17:59.760 creed

00:18:00.880 C-R-E-E-D 1.00

00:18:02.040 from the Latin credo

00:18:03.240 I believe

00:18:03.820 creed means a belief system

00:18:06.000 doesn't it?

00:18:07.060 yeah it sure does

00:18:07.720 I mean it's

00:18:08.060 the courts have recognized

00:18:09.820 creed to be

00:18:11.580 a reflection of a

00:18:14.300 comprehensive system

00:18:16.340 of beliefs

00:18:17.280 and so

00:18:19.560 you'll see that

00:18:21.440 across Canada

00:18:22.160 people have

00:18:22.860 have used creed

00:18:24.500 as a test ground

00:18:27.200 to insert various types

00:18:29.740 of belief systems

00:18:30.860 so for example

00:18:31.660 we've seen cases

00:18:32.800 where vegans

00:18:33.620 have brought forth

00:18:34.900 tests with respect

00:18:36.980 to creed

00:18:37.660 or those that

00:18:40.100 disagree with

00:18:41.820 animal cruelty

00:18:43.040 and so they'll use that

00:18:44.900 creed

00:18:45.660 as a way to show

00:18:46.520 look this is my system

00:18:47.720 of beliefs

00:18:48.420 and it should be protected

00:18:49.700 so it's more than just

00:18:50.820 a hunch

00:18:51.280 or a political

00:18:52.280 talking point

00:18:53.000 it's a deep-seated

00:18:54.000 system of beliefs

00:18:55.020 and we might find them

00:18:56.980 unusual or strange

00:18:58.260 but other people

00:18:59.880 deeply believe in them

00:19:01.260 so for example

00:19:02.400 I suppose atheism

00:19:04.160 is quite obviously

00:19:05.980 a creed

00:19:06.480 well that's right

00:19:07.140 it's the absence

00:19:07.840 of a religion

00:19:08.720 but it's a world view

00:19:10.140 it's a system of beliefs

00:19:10.980 exactly

00:19:11.660 and so that's

00:19:12.700 it's a bit of a catch-all

00:19:14.560 to cover those

00:19:15.520 that might not

00:19:16.260 necessarily be viewed

00:19:20.200 as a religion

00:19:21.420 got it

00:19:21.900 so obviously an atheist

00:19:23.180 I don't think

00:19:24.000 there's anything

00:19:24.520 in atheism

00:19:25.160 that would be against

00:19:25.900 wearing a face mask

00:19:26.740 but if someone like me

00:19:28.440 had a deep-seated belief

00:19:30.340 in personal liberty

00:19:31.220 who spent his whole life

00:19:32.160 fighting for personal liberty

00:19:33.240 likes to think

00:19:35.120 I believe in science

00:19:36.420 and minimal infringements

00:19:38.660 on personal liberty

00:19:39.400 my creed

00:19:41.060 is live free or die

00:19:42.780 and my creed is

00:19:45.400 I don't bend the knee

00:19:46.520 to some junk science

00:19:49.680 politicians in City Hall

00:19:51.580 passing a law

00:19:52.400 saying I have to wear a mask

00:19:53.600 three months after

00:19:55.320 the pandemic's over

00:19:56.360 that's my creed

00:19:57.680 now I'm not asking you

00:19:58.800 to be a doctor

00:19:59.560 telling me that's

00:20:00.880 an exemption

00:20:01.460 I'm not asking you

00:20:02.320 to be a judge

00:20:03.200 judging my creed

00:20:04.420 I'm just saying

00:20:04.920 that's my creed

00:20:05.760 and whether or not

00:20:07.720 some court

00:20:08.500 or some professor

00:20:11.340 later on says

00:20:12.420 libertarian

00:20:13.200 small government

00:20:14.980 lifestyle

00:20:15.840 which I have practiced

00:20:16.640 my entire life

00:20:17.460 is a creed

00:20:18.040 that's not the point

00:20:18.940 because the real point is

00:20:20.580 the shopkeeper

00:20:22.180 is not allowed

00:20:22.720 to ask you to prove it

00:20:23.800 well that's exactly right

00:20:25.260 so that would be

00:20:28.380 in my view

00:20:29.400 a reasonable position

00:20:30.860 to take

00:20:31.640 now do you win the day

00:20:33.400 at the end of a

00:20:34.040 human rights tribunal case

00:20:35.720 that would be left

00:20:37.960 to be seen

00:20:38.580 but ultimately again

00:20:40.360 as you pointed out

00:20:41.380 the shopkeeper

00:20:42.560 is not in a position

00:20:43.600 to be challenging

00:20:44.680 that exemption

00:20:46.840 so maybe one day

00:20:48.480 a judge

00:20:49.200 or a human rights

00:20:50.080 tribunal member

00:20:50.880 would say

00:20:51.740 nah Levant 0.90

00:20:52.620 believing in personal freedom

00:20:54.380 living in a small government

00:20:56.020 belief system

00:20:56.840 that's not a creed

00:20:58.320 and I can see that happening

00:20:59.900 in Canada frankly

00:21:00.940 I happen to believe

00:21:02.460 it is a creed

00:21:03.640 but what you're saying is

00:21:05.860 it's not for the shopkeeper

00:21:09.740 to decide

00:21:10.300 because section 2D

00:21:12.700 says

00:21:13.560 the policy

00:21:14.460 shall not require

00:21:15.360 employees

00:21:15.900 or members of the public

00:21:16.980 to provide proof

00:21:17.680 of any of the exemptions

00:21:18.520 set out in section 2A

00:21:19.480 and that's the problem

00:21:21.040 with this whole

00:21:22.860 bylaw system

00:21:24.740 is that

00:21:25.780 the burden

00:21:27.700 has been placed

00:21:29.180 onto shopkeepers

00:21:31.160 shopkeepers

00:21:32.000 that have been

00:21:32.660 hit hard

00:21:33.660 by the pandemic

00:21:34.680 that want to

00:21:36.320 build

00:21:37.000 rebuild their business

00:21:38.240 and frankly

00:21:39.280 probably do not

00:21:40.300 want to be dealing

00:21:41.240 with this issue

00:21:42.360 but because the city

00:21:43.780 for whatever reason

00:21:45.780 has decided

00:21:46.560 that they don't want

00:21:47.840 to be the ones

00:21:48.420 enforcing this issue

00:21:50.020 they've left it

00:21:50.760 to the shopkeepers

00:21:51.540 to be the bad guys

00:21:52.700 yeah I think

00:21:53.420 I think it's a cowardly

00:21:54.660 approach

00:21:55.180 to lawmaking

00:21:56.520 instead of having

00:21:57.380 city police

00:21:58.380 which by the way

00:21:59.500 have other things

00:22:00.100 to do

00:22:00.500 instead of having

00:22:01.320 bylaw officers do it

00:22:02.500 they have other

00:22:03.160 real things to do

00:22:03.900 they're actually

00:22:04.740 trying to turn

00:22:05.360 every shopkeeper

00:22:06.300 into a cop

00:22:07.620 into a bylaw officer

00:22:08.720 it's incredibly unfair

00:22:10.440 on the shopkeepers

00:22:11.340 it's unfair

00:22:12.500 to customers

00:22:13.340 who

00:22:14.200 when they deal

00:22:15.140 with a cop

00:22:15.720 at least know

00:22:16.240 the cop

00:22:16.700 understands the law

00:22:17.980 when I'm dealing

00:22:19.700 with those teenage

00:22:20.700 staffers at Starbucks

00:22:22.620 I'm not going

00:22:23.860 to push back

00:22:24.440 on them

00:22:24.840 like I would a cop

00:22:26.140 because how on earth

00:22:28.260 would they know

00:22:29.060 the law

00:22:29.660 they're just teenage

00:22:30.900 Starbucks workers

00:22:32.200 I think this is

00:22:33.300 a cowardly law

00:22:34.480 written by cowardly

00:22:35.800 politicians

00:22:36.340 but there is

00:22:37.940 that safety valve

00:22:39.300 of section 2D

00:22:40.660 the policy

00:22:43.380 shall not require

00:22:44.280 employees or members

00:22:45.020 of the public

00:22:45.400 to provide proof

00:22:46.440 of any of the

00:22:46.900 exemptions set

00:22:47.460 out in section 2A

00:22:48.260 so it is my

00:22:49.720 creed

00:22:51.360 my world view

00:22:52.700 my deeply held

00:22:53.500 belief system

00:22:54.140 that I've practiced

00:22:55.100 my whole life

00:22:55.800 that I am not

00:22:57.040 going to wear

00:22:57.400 a muzzle

00:22:57.920 because John Tory

00:23:00.060 the cowardly mayor

00:23:00.840 of Toronto

00:23:01.220 or any other mayor

00:23:01.820 says so

00:23:02.380 without scientific

00:23:03.460 or epidemiological

00:23:05.240 basis

00:23:05.580 so the way

00:23:06.200 that you articulated

00:23:07.000 that

00:23:07.440 try to imagine

00:23:08.500 now

00:23:08.920 if we go for a walk

00:23:10.040 go into a Starbucks

00:23:10.860 you're going to

00:23:11.400 have the same kid there

00:23:12.840 and you're going to

00:23:13.600 express this

00:23:14.480 well articulated creed

00:23:16.080 it's impossible

00:23:16.400 no chance

00:23:16.680 no chance

00:23:17.220 and they would

00:23:18.060 laugh at me

00:23:18.480 and by the way

00:23:18.980 I wouldn't want

00:23:19.420 to put them

00:23:19.740 through that

00:23:20.200 because they're

00:23:21.240 just a kid

00:23:21.820 working at Starbucks

00:23:22.540 or they're just

00:23:23.080 a gal at the bakery 1.00

00:23:23.940 that I go to

00:23:25.140 get sandwiches

00:23:26.140 and I don't want

00:23:26.860 to turn everything

00:23:27.340 into a fight

00:23:28.140 and that's where

00:23:29.620 mask exemption.ca

00:23:32.240 comes in

00:23:32.860 because we are

00:23:34.240 going to have

00:23:34.720 little cards

00:23:35.720 that have these

00:23:38.580 key sections

00:23:39.700 of the law

00:23:40.340 explaining the rights

00:23:42.480 so you don't have

00:23:43.020 to talk

00:23:43.400 you don't have to

00:23:43.780 talk

00:23:43.920 you just show

00:23:44.480 the card

00:23:44.960 and they'll have

00:23:46.320 the website

00:23:47.080 mask exemption.ca

00:23:48.780 that will link

00:23:50.100 to this video

00:23:51.040 and other short

00:23:52.420 videos

00:23:52.940 explaining

00:23:53.820 a video

00:23:55.120 for employers

00:23:57.040 a video

00:23:57.720 for members

00:23:58.180 of the public

00:23:58.740 and what the law

00:24:00.520 is

00:24:00.860 and hopefully

00:24:01.960 the combination

00:24:03.180 of the card

00:24:04.000 that has the

00:24:04.740 summary and the

00:24:05.440 info right on it

00:24:06.220 and the website

00:24:07.360 for those who

00:24:07.880 are truly interested

00:24:08.740 will diffuse

00:24:10.140 most of these

00:24:11.020 situations

00:24:11.520 I've seen this

00:24:12.280 before

00:24:12.560 the ACLU

00:24:13.420 the American

00:24:13.760 Civil Liberties

00:24:14.320 Union

00:24:14.560 had little cards

00:24:16.000 sometimes

00:24:16.460 that they would

00:24:16.840 give out to people

00:24:17.560 for what to say

00:24:18.300 if they were

00:24:18.800 arrested

00:24:19.320 now in that case

00:24:20.740 you're dealing

00:24:21.160 with professional

00:24:21.820 police officers

00:24:22.680 who would say

00:24:23.320 oh they have

00:24:24.580 the right to

00:24:25.000 remain silent

00:24:25.720 I know that's

00:24:26.400 true

00:24:26.580 I'm not going

00:24:27.040 to argue

00:24:27.420 I don't think

00:24:29.200 this is going

00:24:29.640 to be 100%

00:24:30.500 successful

00:24:31.060 because you're

00:24:31.800 going to have

00:24:32.120 some shopkeepers

00:24:32.860 who are confused

00:24:33.660 and scared

00:24:34.300 and angry

00:24:35.260 and stressed out

00:24:36.920 but I hope

00:24:38.480 that maskexemption.ca

00:24:40.260 combined with

00:24:41.960 people using

00:24:42.960 that card

00:24:43.800 calmly

00:24:44.500 and say

00:24:44.840 listen I

00:24:45.380 understand

00:24:45.940 you're confused

00:24:46.520 by the new law

00:24:47.200 please take a second

00:24:48.560 to look at my rights

00:24:49.600 and your responsibilities

00:24:51.020 and if you need more

00:24:52.280 click on maskexemption.ca

00:24:53.880 because I have

00:24:55.120 an exemption

00:24:55.620 and you're not

00:24:56.860 actually allowed

00:24:57.620 to even ask me

00:24:58.900 about it

00:24:59.260 so please take a look

00:25:00.160 yeah

00:25:00.640 well I think

00:25:01.260 that's really

00:25:01.720 I hope that

00:25:02.820 that will be

00:25:03.360 effective

00:25:04.100 I think this is

00:25:05.000 an important

00:25:05.560 initiative

00:25:06.260 for those

00:25:08.120 that disagree

00:25:08.840 in principle

00:25:09.620 with the

00:25:10.980 with the mask

00:25:11.780 bylaws

00:25:12.260 but also those

00:25:13.240 that really

00:25:14.160 have a bona fide

00:25:15.320 protected ground

00:25:17.780 other than that

00:25:18.760 that need the

00:25:20.080 assistance

00:25:20.460 and may not

00:25:21.140 be able

00:25:21.500 to articulate it

00:25:22.440 yeah that's right

00:25:23.340 no one under two

00:25:24.760 has to wear a mask

00:25:25.720 anyone who has

00:25:26.360 an underlying

00:25:26.760 medical condition

00:25:27.680 including

00:25:28.640 it's difficult

00:25:29.580 to breathe

00:25:30.180 that's such

00:25:30.760 an important one

00:25:31.360 it's difficult

00:25:31.760 to breathe

00:25:32.140 with a mask

00:25:32.660 anyone who

00:25:33.700 needs help

00:25:34.140 to remove

00:25:34.580 or put on

00:25:35.160 the mask

00:25:35.600 there are

00:25:37.540 a lot of

00:25:38.080 exemptions

00:25:38.680 the one that

00:25:39.380 I would likely

00:25:40.120 rely on

00:25:40.840 is creed

00:25:42.120 all right

00:25:42.980 I want to

00:25:43.500 close on this

00:25:44.480 and

00:25:45.640 we'll put this

00:25:47.460 up as a

00:25:47.960 separate video

00:25:48.620 on the website

00:25:49.420 advice to

00:25:50.880 shopkeepers

00:25:51.600 so a shopkeeper

00:25:52.860 comes on

00:25:53.520 maskexemption.ca

00:25:54.960 they're a little

00:25:56.480 confused

00:25:56.900 they're a little

00:25:57.300 put off

00:25:57.740 because they

00:25:58.220 have a problem

00:25:58.860 that they didn't

00:25:59.320 want

00:25:59.700 what is the

00:26:00.900 number one

00:26:01.360 thing that

00:26:01.800 shopkeepers

00:26:02.380 need to know

00:26:03.260 about someone

00:26:04.260 with a

00:26:04.620 maskexemption.ca

00:26:06.040 card

00:26:06.540 well you know

00:26:08.000 I would say

00:26:08.460 that it's really

00:26:10.300 no questions

00:26:12.180 policy

00:26:12.720 if the

00:26:14.980 exemption

00:26:15.380 is cited

00:26:16.820 you don't need

00:26:18.640 proof of the

00:26:19.180 exemption

00:26:19.520 and so you

00:26:20.940 just let the

00:26:21.680 person go about

00:26:22.640 their business

00:26:23.220 because according

00:26:24.400 to this bylaw

00:26:25.200 there's nothing

00:26:27.220 you can do

00:26:27.900 and in fact

00:26:31.500 if you try

00:26:33.200 to make

00:26:33.840 someone prove

00:26:34.680 the exemption

00:26:35.240 you could be

00:26:36.580 violating their

00:26:38.060 rights under

00:26:38.620 the Ontario

00:26:39.240 Human Rights Code

00:26:40.280 well that's right

00:26:40.960 and you know

00:26:41.420 what that's a

00:26:42.440 really interesting

00:26:43.560 point

00:26:44.160 is that

00:26:45.480 it appears

00:26:46.620 that the

00:26:47.740 contravention

00:26:48.540 provision

00:26:49.040 is meant to

00:26:50.020 address those

00:26:50.760 that are not

00:26:51.220 complying

00:26:51.920 that would be

00:26:52.380 establishments

00:26:53.080 that do not

00:26:54.020 put in place

00:26:54.820 a policy

00:26:55.540 or those

00:26:56.260 that are not

00:26:56.620 complying with

00:26:57.200 it

00:26:57.340 but there's

00:26:58.240 another side

00:26:58.860 to this

00:26:59.180 which you

00:26:59.540 pointed out

00:27:00.140 which is

00:27:00.860 that if

00:27:02.180 establishments

00:27:03.220 are not

00:27:03.640 complying

00:27:04.140 with the

00:27:04.540 exemptions

00:27:05.120 then they

00:27:05.480 could be

00:27:06.000 at risk

00:27:06.560 of contravening

00:27:07.340 it itself

00:27:07.800 so a good

00:27:09.220 practice

00:27:09.660 for a shop

00:27:10.720 would be

00:27:11.760 ask people

00:27:12.820 to put on

00:27:13.540 a mask

00:27:13.980 but as soon

00:27:14.740 as they say

00:27:15.280 no I'm

00:27:15.860 exempt

00:27:16.260 you can't

00:27:17.500 ask questions

00:27:18.080 about it

00:27:18.500 and you should

00:27:19.060 accommodate

00:27:19.560 the exemption

00:27:20.220 because it's

00:27:22.060 not up to

00:27:22.700 you to judge

00:27:23.480 the exemption

00:27:24.020 it may be

00:27:24.780 up to

00:27:25.060 someone else

00:27:25.580 maybe the

00:27:25.960 human rights

00:27:26.400 commission

00:27:27.620 it may be

00:27:28.540 the police

00:27:28.960 but it ain't

00:27:29.440 up to the

00:27:29.820 shopkeeper

00:27:30.180 yeah it's

00:27:30.740 really there's

00:27:31.460 no right

00:27:32.200 to get

00:27:33.060 into a

00:27:34.120 cross-examination

00:27:35.280 with a patron

00:27:37.060 who is citing

00:27:37.920 an exemption

00:27:38.660 it would be

00:27:39.260 like demanding

00:27:39.920 someone in a

00:27:40.500 wheelchair

00:27:40.780 prove they

00:27:41.440 can't use

00:27:41.780 their legs

00:27:42.200 it's unseemly

00:27:43.580 and it's

00:27:44.040 certainly not

00:27:44.660 in the spirit

00:27:45.440 of the bylaw

00:27:46.280 as it was

00:27:46.820 drafted

00:27:47.140 all right

00:27:47.760 so that's

00:27:48.460 your advice

00:27:48.960 for shopkeepers

00:27:50.100 what's your

00:27:50.940 advice for

00:27:51.960 a customer

00:27:52.960 a citizen

00:27:53.540 someone like

00:27:54.060 me who

00:27:54.340 just wants

00:27:54.660 a coffee

00:27:55.100 just wants

00:27:55.580 a sandwich

00:27:56.640 I think

00:27:57.640 probably the

00:27:58.660 key is

00:27:59.280 stay calm

00:28:00.040 realize you're

00:28:01.500 not dealing

00:28:01.920 with trained

00:28:02.860 police officers

00:28:03.700 or lawyers

00:28:04.320 and to me

00:28:06.080 I would think

00:28:06.700 calmly invite

00:28:08.360 them to read

00:28:09.180 what the law

00:28:10.240 is on the

00:28:11.000 card

00:28:11.400 and if that

00:28:12.560 doesn't put

00:28:13.860 the problem

00:28:14.260 away

00:28:14.620 have them go

00:28:15.720 to maskexemption.ca

00:28:17.020 that's my hunch

00:28:17.860 what would

00:28:18.420 you say as a

00:28:20.320 lawyer to a

00:28:21.620 customer who

00:28:22.180 wants to

00:28:22.560 use this

00:28:23.160 mask exemption

00:28:24.140 card

00:28:24.440 well I agree

00:28:25.920 I mean I

00:28:26.400 think that

00:28:26.900 the directing

00:28:29.260 the shop owner

00:28:30.180 or the shopkeeper

00:28:30.860 to the mask

00:28:32.340 exemption website

00:28:33.500 and the card

00:28:35.420 and trying to

00:28:36.140 explain it

00:28:36.720 I think the

00:28:37.380 focus is

00:28:37.920 de-escalation

00:28:38.800 because I think

00:28:39.460 what we've seen

00:28:40.160 in the reports

00:28:41.040 of those that

00:28:42.220 are citing

00:28:42.740 exemptions

00:28:43.460 is that

00:28:44.140 things escalate

00:28:45.020 quickly

00:28:45.380 and not

00:28:45.820 necessarily

00:28:46.260 between the

00:28:47.120 most important

00:28:47.880 parties being

00:28:48.640 the patron

00:28:49.100 and the shopkeeper

00:28:50.580 but rather

00:28:51.300 those other

00:28:52.260 folks around

00:28:53.340 that decide

00:28:54.460 that they

00:28:55.300 want to

00:28:55.660 interject

00:28:56.160 as a

00:28:57.120 political matter

00:28:58.200 to reflect

00:28:58.860 on their

00:28:59.240 political issues

00:29:00.180 we saw

00:29:00.660 that recently

00:29:01.040 in Ontario

00:29:01.820 a tragic

00:29:02.320 case of

00:29:02.820 actually

00:29:03.800 turning into

00:29:04.660 a shooting

00:29:05.280 if you can

00:29:06.140 believe it

00:29:06.620 and tempers

00:29:08.520 are high

00:29:09.000 stress is high

00:29:10.020 people are

00:29:10.820 unemployed

00:29:11.380 there's a lot

00:29:12.560 of genuine

00:29:13.080 worry about

00:29:13.880 the pandemic

00:29:14.980 and a lot

00:29:15.700 of fake

00:29:16.600 worry and

00:29:17.400 public health

00:29:18.480 theater I

00:29:19.200 call it

00:29:19.720 so this

00:29:20.960 is a

00:29:21.260 challenging

00:29:21.540 situation

00:29:22.160 well

00:29:22.500 Aaron I

00:29:24.120 got one

00:29:24.460 last question

00:29:25.060 for you

00:29:25.500 if there

00:29:26.080 is a

00:29:26.560 customer

00:29:26.980 out there

00:29:27.800 who

00:29:28.900 uses the

00:29:30.640 mask

00:29:30.960 exemption

00:29:31.420 and has

00:29:33.120 his rights

00:29:33.800 violated

00:29:34.420 under

00:29:34.820 section 2D

00:29:35.800 if a

00:29:36.780 shopkeeper

00:29:37.320 tries to

00:29:38.420 grill him

00:29:39.040 for proof

00:29:40.140 of the

00:29:41.120 exemption

00:29:41.600 and again

00:29:42.340 I say

00:29:42.700 section 2D

00:29:43.440 specifically

00:29:43.900 says you

00:29:44.760 cannot demand

00:29:45.840 proof

00:29:46.260 would you

00:29:48.320 consider

00:29:49.280 with our

00:29:49.920 assistance

00:29:50.580 to crowd

00:29:51.080 funded

00:29:51.400 would you

00:29:52.160 consider

00:29:52.640 legally

00:29:53.280 representing

00:29:53.980 that

00:29:54.280 customer

00:29:54.800 against

00:29:55.960 whoever

00:29:56.400 was

00:29:56.900 violating

00:29:58.180 2D

00:29:58.540 whether

00:29:58.780 that's

00:29:59.220 going to

00:29:59.760 the

00:29:59.880 human

00:30:00.040 rights

00:30:00.280 commission

00:30:00.640 or just

00:30:01.000 writing a

00:30:01.540 demand

00:30:02.280 letter

00:30:02.580 I mean

00:30:03.040 I don't

00:30:03.600 know what

00:30:03.900 the remedy

00:30:04.240 would be

00:30:04.720 but would

00:30:05.120 you be

00:30:05.420 interested

00:30:05.820 in helping

00:30:06.380 people

00:30:07.260 whose rights

00:30:07.840 were violated

00:30:08.460 by not

00:30:09.680 having their

00:30:10.060 mask

00:30:10.340 exemption

00:30:10.880 respected

00:30:12.240 the short

00:30:13.860 answer

00:30:14.140 is yes

00:30:14.760 and the

00:30:15.160 long

00:30:15.420 answer

00:30:15.900 is

00:30:16.720 very

00:30:17.560 quite

00:30:17.900 simple

00:30:18.280 and this

00:30:18.640 is my

00:30:18.920 belief

00:30:19.260 with respect

00:30:19.840 to all

00:30:20.360 laws

00:30:20.720 is that

00:30:21.360 laws

00:30:21.840 are in

00:30:22.300 place

00:30:22.640 to be

00:30:23.080 enforced

00:30:23.720 otherwise

00:30:24.760 what's

00:30:25.460 the point

00:30:25.920 now whether

00:30:26.480 that's a

00:30:26.880 bylaw

00:30:27.360 or whether

00:30:27.860 that's

00:30:28.160 federal

00:30:28.460 legislation

00:30:29.040 you have

00:30:30.120 to be

00:30:30.480 able to

00:30:31.040 access

00:30:31.680 the

00:30:32.100 mechanisms

00:30:32.660 in the

00:30:33.620 law

00:30:33.980 to enforce

00:30:34.600 your

00:30:35.020 rights

00:30:35.580 and so

00:30:36.520 this

00:30:37.260 bylaw

00:30:38.140 provides

00:30:38.660 a very

00:30:39.140 clear

00:30:39.480 path

00:30:40.000 to

00:30:40.860 enforce

00:30:42.540 and to

00:30:43.480 examine

00:30:44.000 the law

00:30:44.820 the issue

00:30:45.720 that you're

00:30:46.100 being

00:30:46.460 attacked

00:30:47.340 on

00:30:47.700 being

00:30:48.080 not

00:30:48.600 being

00:30:49.120 allowed

00:30:49.440 to

00:30:49.760 use

00:30:50.620 your

00:30:50.780 exemption

00:30:51.160 so yes

00:30:51.840 it's

00:30:52.600 important

00:30:52.880 for people

00:30:53.280 to enforce

00:30:53.760 those

00:30:54.020 laws

00:30:54.220 and I

00:30:54.460 would be

00:30:54.800 privileged

00:30:55.340 and honoured

00:30:55.960 in order

00:30:56.320 to be

00:30:56.580 able to

00:30:56.800 do so

00:30:57.140 all right

00:30:57.620 well we

00:30:57.920 might take

00:30:58.380 you up

00:30:58.680 on that

00:30:59.000 if we

00:30:59.320 have

00:30:59.440 problems

00:30:59.760 so folks

00:31:00.260 there you

00:31:00.720 have it

00:31:01.140 a detailed

00:31:02.100 review of

00:31:02.800 Toronto's

00:31:03.660 mask

00:31:04.220 bylaws

00:31:04.800 I deal

00:31:05.560 with Toronto

00:31:05.960 because we're

00:31:06.360 based here

00:31:06.860 in Toronto

00:31:07.340 Aronson

00:31:07.900 Toronto

00:31:08.280 Toronto

00:31:08.900 is Canada's

00:31:09.420 largest

00:31:09.680 city

00:31:10.000 and I

00:31:10.320 fear

00:31:10.580 it will

00:31:10.760 be a

00:31:11.060 template

00:31:11.360 for other

00:31:12.380 mask

00:31:13.000 requirement

00:31:13.600 cities

00:31:13.920 too

00:31:14.200 so we've

00:31:15.920 shown you

00:31:16.380 the sections

00:31:17.020 in Toronto's

00:31:17.820 bylaw

00:31:18.220 in the course

00:31:19.300 of time

00:31:19.660 we will have

00:31:20.120 other mask

00:31:21.180 bylaws

00:31:21.820 in Canada

00:31:22.420 up there

00:31:22.960 too

00:31:23.300 you can

00:31:24.460 order

00:31:24.920 your mask

00:31:26.060 exemption

00:31:26.620 card

00:31:27.420 which will

00:31:27.900 be a

00:31:28.320 laminated

00:31:29.040 card that you

00:31:29.740 can keep

00:31:30.140 in your

00:31:30.380 wallet

00:31:30.620 you want

00:31:31.000 to keep

00:31:31.280 it on

00:31:31.660 you

00:31:31.920 because when

00:31:32.720 you go

00:31:32.960 into

00:31:33.120 establishments

00:31:33.700 you want

00:31:33.960 to pull

00:31:34.220 it out

00:31:34.560 if you

00:31:35.020 have that

00:31:35.400 problem

00:31:35.780 and I'm

00:31:36.400 afraid you

00:31:36.820 are going

00:31:37.340 to have

00:31:37.580 that problem

00:31:38.100 because most

00:31:38.680 people don't

00:31:39.180 know about

00:31:39.680 the exemption

00:31:40.180 my advice

00:31:41.340 is stay

00:31:41.820 calm

00:31:42.240 keep the

00:31:42.720 energy

00:31:43.060 low

00:31:43.740 and just

00:31:44.520 calmly

00:31:44.860 and say

00:31:45.200 I know

00:31:45.600 you haven't

00:31:46.040 heard of

00:31:46.300 this

00:31:46.480 but here's

00:31:47.480 the law

00:31:47.820 please read

00:31:48.440 it

00:31:48.620 if you're

00:31:49.060 still

00:31:49.260 skeptical

00:31:49.720 please go

00:31:51.440 to

00:31:51.660 mask

00:31:52.000 exemption

00:31:52.380 dot

00:31:52.740 ca

00:31:53.120 hopefully

00:31:54.940 they will

00:31:55.540 and if

00:31:56.360 your rights

00:31:56.940 are violated

00:31:57.760 you can

00:31:58.720 fill out

00:31:59.380 the form

00:32:00.060 on

00:32:00.380 mask

00:32:00.780 exemption

00:32:01.360 dot

00:32:01.840 ca

00:32:02.200 and tell

00:32:03.040 us what

00:32:03.380 happens

00:32:03.820 and if

00:32:04.320 it's a

00:32:04.780 case

00:32:06.040 that we

00:32:06.440 think

00:32:06.720 would help

00:32:07.300 set a

00:32:07.660 precedent

00:32:08.080 you heard

00:32:09.000 them

00:32:09.160 Aaron

00:32:09.960 would take

00:32:10.580 the case

00:32:10.920 and we

00:32:11.140 would crowd

00:32:11.680 fund that

00:32:12.100 so you

00:32:12.440 yourself

00:32:12.840 would not

00:32:13.200 be on

00:32:13.480 the hook

00:32:13.780 for the

00:32:14.500 cost

00:32:14.840 so go

00:32:15.920 to

00:32:16.160 mask

00:32:16.660 exemption

00:32:17.100 dot

00:32:17.440 ca

00:32:17.700 to read

00:32:18.400 the law

00:32:18.900 learn about

00:32:20.220 your rights

00:32:20.800 and most

00:32:21.260 importantly

00:32:21.760 learn how

00:32:22.820 shopkeepers

00:32:23.740 who are

00:32:24.640 really victims

00:32:25.500 of this

00:32:25.780 too

00:32:26.040 don't have

00:32:27.200 the power

00:32:27.780 to demand

00:32:28.620 proof of

00:32:29.220 you

00:32:29.380 you can

00:32:30.320 I suppose

00:32:31.100 make a

00:32:32.040 little mask

00:32:32.560 exemption

00:32:32.920 card

00:32:33.340 yourself

00:32:33.780 but if

00:32:34.420 you order

00:32:34.880 one from

00:32:35.320 us

00:32:35.580 we'll mail

00:32:36.140 it to

00:32:36.460 you

00:32:36.660 it'll

00:32:37.160 come

00:32:37.420 a little

00:32:37.740 laminated

00:32:38.240 card

00:32:38.680 and it'll

00:32:39.380 have the

00:32:39.800 specific

00:32:40.220 sections

00:32:40.940 and the

00:32:42.060 website

00:32:42.520 that you

00:32:42.960 can show

00:32:43.380 people

00:32:43.700 it's something

00:32:44.420 to keep

00:32:44.860 in your

00:32:45.240 wallet

00:32:45.520 as you

00:32:45.920 go around

00:32:46.400 the city

00:32:47.380 until this

00:32:47.980 madness

00:32:48.540 ends

00:32:48.880 so make

00:32:49.220 sure to

00:32:49.440 go to

00:32:49.920 maskexemption 0.82

00:32:51.340 dot ca

00:32:52.820 Aaron thanks

00:32:53.440 very much

00:32:53.860 we fight

00:32:54.200 for civil

00:32:54.680 liberties

00:32:54.960 we don't

00:32:55.280 just talk

00:32:55.680 about them

00:32:56.080 we fight

00:32:56.740 for them

00:32:57.040 thank you

00:32:57.260 so much

00:32:57.680 all right

00:32:58.380 go to

00:32:59.460 maskexemption 0.82

00:33:00.180 dot ca

00:33:01.580 well what

00:33:10.040 do you

00:33:10.220 think of

00:33:10.620 maskexemption 0.82

00:33:11.440 dot ca

00:33:12.260 it's a

00:33:13.280 very strange

00:33:13.980 law i think

00:33:14.400 it's a

00:33:14.680 cowardly

00:33:15.240 law but

00:33:16.320 it's a

00:33:16.640 law that's

00:33:17.140 turning every

00:33:17.960 single person

00:33:18.820 in town into

00:33:19.540 some sort

00:33:20.020 of a

00:33:20.260 snitch

00:33:20.700 or enforcer

00:33:21.900 just when

00:33:22.380 the virus

00:33:22.800 itself is

00:33:23.360 gone

00:33:23.720 the number

00:33:24.760 of deaths

00:33:25.600 in toronto

00:33:26.240 is lower

00:33:26.920 than it's

00:33:27.320 been since

00:33:27.760 february

00:33:28.440 before the

00:33:29.300 pandemic was

00:33:30.020 officially

00:33:30.480 declared

00:33:31.020 in mid

00:33:31.740 march

00:33:32.180 i think

00:33:33.340 that this

00:33:33.680 law is

00:33:34.020 terrible

00:33:34.420 it sets

00:33:34.860 us against

00:33:35.340 each other

00:33:35.840 and keeps

00:33:36.560 us apart

00:33:37.380 that's been

00:33:38.540 the true

00:33:38.900 cost of

00:33:39.400 the pandemic

00:33:40.040 9000 lives

00:33:41.380 lost each

00:33:41.980 are a tragedy

00:33:42.600 it's true

00:33:43.200 but what it's

00:33:44.180 done to

00:33:44.520 society

00:33:45.120 well that's

00:33:46.200 what politicians

00:33:46.920 have done

00:33:47.480 visit

00:33:48.440 maskexemption 0.82

00:33:49.360 dot ca

00:33:50.180 to learn

00:33:51.040 more and

00:33:51.780 to order

00:33:53.140 your mask

00:33:53.920 exemption card

00:33:54.800 for your

00:33:55.160 wallet

00:33:55.520 that's our

00:33:56.760 show for

00:33:57.040 today

00:33:57.340 until next

00:33:58.480 time on

00:33:58.840 behalf of

00:33:59.240 all of us

00:33:59.600 here at

00:33:59.900 rebel world

00:34:00.340 headquarters

00:34:00.800 to you

00:34:01.440 at home

00:34:01.780 good night

00:34:02.260 and keep

00:34:03.500 fighting

00:34:03.780 for freedom

Rebel News Podcast - July 21, 2020

The pandemic is over. Why are governments making masks mandatory now？

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