Rebel News Podcast - The UK bans Huawei from their 5G networks. Why is Trudeau standing with China against our allies？

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, exciting show today. The UK did the right thing. They banned Huawei and actually

00:00:06.880 telephone companies have to rip out existing Huawei stuff in a few years. Hey, do you think

00:00:11.560 China, I mean, do you think Canada's going to do the same thing? Do you think Canada's going to

00:00:15.940 follow the UK lead or do you think they're going to stick with China and Huawei? Well, I get into

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00:00:55.900 Tonight, the UK bans Huawei from their 5G networks. Why is Trudeau standing with China against our

00:01:05.680 democratic allies? It's July 15th and this is the Ezra LeVance Show.

00:01:11.740 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:15.540 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:19.620 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my

00:01:24.220 bloody right to do so.

00:01:30.400 Huge news out of the UK. They've banned Huawei, the giant Chinese tech company, from building

00:01:37.980 the UK's high-tech 5G networks. Here's the BBC story. Huawei 5G kit must be removed from UK by 2027.

00:01:48.000 As in there already are some Huawei parts in the UK phone and internet and computer system,

00:01:53.340 but no more can be added and the existing stuff has to be ripped out in the next six years.

00:01:58.720 You can bet there are billions of dollars worth. Let me read.

00:02:02.920 The UK's mobile providers are being banned from buying new Huawei 5G equipment after 31st of

00:02:09.340 December and they must also remove all the Chinese firm's 5G kit from their networks by 2027.

00:02:16.760 Digital Secretary Oliver Dowden told the House of Commons of the decision.

00:02:20.480 That is a big decision and it has some costs. Mr. Dowden said the supply ban would delay the UK's 5G

00:02:29.660 rollout by a year. All right, that's costly. But I put it to you that handing over everything you write,

00:02:37.500 you say, you watch, you save, you photograph, you read, just handing it to the Chinese Communist Party,

00:02:43.300 well, that's a higher cost. And that's what Huawei does. That's what they are. Any company like Huawei

00:02:49.080 that's based in China must, under Chinese law, allow continuous unfettered access to all of their

00:02:55.560 systems, including access to encrypted secret material. There's no secret material if your stuff

00:03:01.440 goes through China. If you're a Chinese spy, it's like you're sitting in on every phone call,

00:03:06.700 watching every video, reading every email. You literally have that right under Chinese law

00:03:11.540 all the time for any reason or no reason. Yeah, I'll delay my self-driving cars for a year to get

00:03:18.120 rid of that. Let me quote, the technology promises faster internet speeds and the capacity to support

00:03:24.380 more wireless devices, which should be a boon to everything from mobile gaming to higher quality

00:03:30.780 video streams and even in time driverless cars that talk to each other. Yeah, that sounds awesome.

00:03:39.520 I honestly can't say I'm thrilled about the 5G world. Oh good, more devices, cars that talk to each

00:03:45.900 other. Maybe I'm coming across as a bit of a lot. I actually love driving myself. It's a thrill. It

00:03:51.840 still is to me. 30 odd years after I started driving, one of my favorite things to do. I don't need a

00:03:56.860 computer to drive for me. Frankly, it makes me a bit nervous for myself and for others on the road.

00:04:01.780 But really, imagine if China controlled your self-driving car. Yeah, I'll wait a year to get

00:04:08.780 Huawei ripped out first. Thanks. That's me. I'm a grown-up. But what about teens? You know, there's

00:04:15.220 an app for teens called TikTok. It's a video social app. Really short videos, 15 seconds, 30 seconds. I

00:04:22.580 think the max is one minute long. So it's perfect for ultra short attention spans. Funny jokes,

00:04:28.680 quick dance moves, lots of lip syncing. It's actually really fun. I had it on my phone for a

00:04:32.780 bit. It's very addictive. Two billion downloads of the app worldwide, according to one source.

00:04:39.560 Number two app in the world behind WhatsApp, the communication device. And look at this.

00:04:44.280 Here's the full age breakdown. Age 13 to 17, 27%. Age 18 to 24, 42%. Age 25 to 34, 16%. And only single

00:04:56.860 digits older than that. So you've got almost 70% of TikTok users are people under age 24. Some of them

00:05:04.760 are kids. They're teens. They'll say anything. They'll do anything. They don't know what they're saying or

00:05:11.620 doing. Some of them are literally children. You can't drive yet. You can't drink yet. You can't

00:05:16.580 vote yet. Now that's just the official stats. But I happen to know that a ton of kids even younger

00:05:22.380 than that are using the app. How would anyone know or stop them? And every word, every video,

00:05:29.060 every move, every bad joke, every chat with your friends, even if it's set on private mode,

00:05:34.120 it ain't private. It's all going back to China. Not just that, but anything else you're doing on your

00:05:40.440 phone that has TikTok on your phone, that's going back to China. If you have TikTok on your phone

00:05:46.460 and you're writing an email and you're using that copy and paste function, TikTok reads what you have

00:05:52.740 copied and pasted. Here, here's proof of it. Look at this. This is the new iPhone operating system

00:05:57.200 warning every time TikTok takes a peek at what's called your clipboard. Look at that. It's spying on

00:06:03.040 you literally every few seconds. Do you see that warning up there? Why is TikTok a dance app

00:06:09.740 reading what you cut and paste in emails? What does that have to do with recording a fun dance video?

00:06:17.960 Well, maybe it doesn't matter. I mean, seriously, what kind of spying would China do on a 14-year-old

00:06:23.520 girl doing some cool dance moves? They're interested in 40-year-old women running for Congress, not 1.00

00:06:28.840 14-year-old girls. But yeah, 14-year-old girls grow into 40-year-old women. 15-year-old boys grow into

00:06:36.360 50-year-old men. And every word you say, every joke you tell, every face you make, every ill-considered

00:06:43.360 comment, every mistake, everything you delete, everything you think is on private mode, it is all

00:06:47.640 captured and saved by the Chinese forever. They now have a database of every single young American,

00:06:56.040 really, and Canadian. Facial recognition, who your friends are, what you've ever said to anyone,

00:07:03.300 where you are, where you were, what you looked at, including things maybe you shouldn't have looked

00:07:08.640 at, things you shouldn't have done. And that will stay there, waiting patiently. They've already got

00:07:16.440 something on everyone now. They'll just wait to know who will be the next congressman or senator or

00:07:22.280 colonel or commander or diplomat or spy. They've already got it all on you. Probably even your

00:07:27.640 fingerprints, certainly your voice print. It's just waiting for you to grow up. I think that's one

00:07:34.620 reason why India banned TikTok recently. It's too bad. I had TikTok on my phone for a bit, and I got to

00:07:39.840 tell you, I enjoyed seeing some really exuberant dancers from India. There were so many fun trends

00:07:45.600 in India that TikTok gave me a window on. I would never have seen them otherwise. And I got to admit,

00:07:51.340 I feel sort of sorry for those kids who can't have fun with silly songs and dances now, but I'm sure

00:07:55.640 they'll find another app to do their silly songs and dances now. Maybe one made in India. Or who 1.00

00:08:00.800 knows, maybe they'll just do silly songs and dances in real life for their real friends in real time,

00:08:07.020 like we did before smartphones and apps. India has actually banned the app and more than 50 others

00:08:13.160 because there's a shooting war between India and China now. They're killing each other high in the

00:08:17.640 mountains. There's a war between Canada and China too now, but we're just too passive to notice it.

00:08:24.540 You think the kidnapping of two Canadians would have been a tip-off? Obviously China is now 0.99

00:08:29.660 threatening the UK for banning 5G. They're threatening in all sorts of ways. That's what

00:08:34.020 China does. That's only hardening the hearts of Brits though, confirming their decision was the right 1.00

00:08:40.480 one. But now Canada is out there all alone, still looking dreamily into China's eyes. 0.85

00:08:47.700 Here's a story in the South China Morning Post. Canada faces new pressure to block Huawei from 5G

00:08:52.920 after UK ban risks marooning Ottawa from 5I's intelligence allies. Ex-diplomat Charles Burton

00:09:00.500 says it will now be difficult for Canada to approve Huawei and distinguish itself from allies who have all

00:09:05.860 blocked the Chinese firm. He says a policy of appeasement to China has not helped the detained

00:09:10.960 Canadians Michael Kovrib and Michael Spavor who are accused by Beijing of spying. So that's what the

00:09:17.520 story from the Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post says, the authors in Vancouver. Now not only are

00:09:22.240 all our other allies protecting themselves from China now, but they realize that doing nothing in the

00:09:28.060 face of Chinese belligerence gets no results from China. So they might as well do something, right? I think 0.86

00:09:33.540 it's obvious that these countries, including the UK, were inspired, if not led, by America.

00:09:39.220 But not Justin Trudeau. Remember, it was his ambassador, John McCallum, who actually said that

00:09:44.240 Canada has more in common with China than with the United States under Donald Trump. Just imagine how

00:09:49.880 in the tank for the Chinese communists you have to be to say that, to believe that. We have nothing in 0.98

00:09:54.280 common with communist China. Nothing practically. We're not allies. We're not neighbors. They buy very 0.58

00:09:59.420 little of our exports. We buy theirs, but that's not something we have in common. We just give them

00:10:04.040 cash for that. We have different language and history and culture, different sports, different

00:10:08.920 music, different TV, different movies. It's such a foolish fantasy statement. You have to be mentally

00:10:14.620 on a different planet to think we have more in common with communist China than with America.

00:10:19.480 John McCallum and Trudeau think that. You have to be so deeply in love with China that you don't

00:10:25.300 notice that everyone else is slowly walking away from them, from India to the UK, to America,

00:10:31.960 to Australia, to New Zealand. Everyone is walking away carefully, slowly, no sudden moves.

00:10:37.740 Everyone except Trudeau. Same with the NDP, I guess. Here's a story where the NDP says they don't

00:10:46.240 want to ban TikTok. They think the US, not China, is the greatest risk. I'm serious. They're quoting

00:10:51.600 NDP MP Charlie Angus. He says, Canada needs to be very wary about jumping on board with the United

00:10:57.960 States, particularly when it comes to issues of credibility, of defending privacy and holding

00:11:02.480 digital apps to account, Angus said. The US is the world's center for disinformation and

00:11:08.560 surveillance capitalism, and they've done a very poor job of handling this. Yeah. Charlie likes

00:11:13.560 communist dictatorships, not enough to live there, but enough to cheer for them against America

00:11:18.740 and think America is the threat to his freedom. No wonder the NDP is propping up Trudeau's minority

00:11:23.660 government. Say, what do you think? Do you think Trudeau will ban Huawei too? Or do you think he's

00:11:29.020 loyal to the end to the Communist Party? Well, if you've read my book, China Virus, I'm guessing

00:11:34.780 you're a pessimist just like me. Stay with us for more.

00:11:48.740 Welcome back. Well, of course, Rebel News is my favorite source of news, and it might even be

00:11:54.680 your favorite as well. A close second, it's probably our friends at Breitbart.com, but not everyone

00:12:00.760 shares this taste. In fact, it's generally accepted that the highest heights of journalism in North

00:12:07.940 America are the pages of the New York Times. There are other prestigious newspapers. There

00:12:13.640 are larger newspapers, the Wall Street Journal being one of them, but the New York Times is the

00:12:18.620 trend setter. It's what all the fancy people read. It's what other journalists read. If you have a

00:12:24.500 story on the front page of the New York Times, by afternoon, it's what CNN and the other cable

00:12:29.460 networks are talking about, and the next day, the other newspapers are following. So the idea that

00:12:34.960 someone who would scale those heights and achieve that journalistic apex would, without being fired,

00:12:42.360 without being pushed out really, would voluntarily quit and resign is shocking. But indeed, that is

00:12:52.900 what happened by an editor of the opinion pages of the New York Times named Barry Weiss. And she

00:12:59.800 didn't just leave quietly. She wrote a tell-all explaining why. You can see some of it here.

00:13:05.740 It's addressed to A.G., which is the name of A.G. Salzberger. I think he's the fourth generation of that

00:13:13.680 family to run the Times. I'll just read a little bit. Dear A.G., it is with sadness that I write to

00:13:20.880 tell you that I am resigning from the New York Times. I joined the paper with gratitude and optimism

00:13:26.240 three years ago. I was hired with the goal of bringing in voices that would not otherwise appear

00:13:31.280 in your pages. First-time writers, centrists, conservatives, and others who would not naturally

00:13:37.200 think of the Times as their home. The reason for this effort was clear. The paper's failure to

00:13:42.240 anticipate the outcome of the 2016 election meant that it didn't have a firm grasp of the country it

00:13:48.040 covers. Dean, I think it's Baquet or Baquet, and others have admitted as much on various occasions,

00:13:56.460 the priority in opinion was to help redress that critical shortcoming. And it goes on at some length

00:14:03.400 talking about what went right, but what went so terribly wrong, of the cancel culture that has

00:14:09.840 infected the New York Times, and indeed, of a sort of terror within the New York Times, even by people

00:14:16.180 who want to dissent from the official Red Guard line, that if you were to say something that might

00:14:22.760 irritate someone, you would be fired, you would be demonized. At one point, she says that Twitter

00:14:28.740 is not on the masthead, but Twitter actually runs the place because a Twitter mob is enough to get you

00:14:34.580 canceled and fired. Joining us now to talk about this is our friend Joel Pollack at my second favorite

00:14:42.020 media outlet, Breitbart.com. He's the senior editor at large there. So welcome to the show. This is

00:14:47.620 very interesting. We were talking just before we turned the camera on. Breitbart and you actually

00:14:53.780 have some dealings with Barry Weiss, and so I know you have to be careful here, and you want to be very

00:14:58.260 objective and professional. What are your thoughts on this subject? And why don't you tell us a little

00:15:02.340 about who Barry Weiss is, and what the meaning of her resignation is?

00:15:09.540 Well, Barry Weiss is a brilliant writer, and she and I have actually known each other for more than a decade.

00:15:17.780 When she was a student at Columbia University in New York, she started a pro-Israel journal on campus,

00:15:25.140 and my wife, who I was then just dating, did the same at Harvard, and so we got to know each other.

00:15:32.500 And when she was hired by the Wall Street Journal as their deputy opinion page editor, we stayed in touch,

00:15:40.100 and we would meet occasionally if I was in New York, and we got along very well. And she then went on to

00:15:48.100 become editor of a new online magazine called Tablet, which is a very good magazine about specifically

00:15:56.500 Jewish affairs. And we had a few disagreements over some editorial and political issues that are probably

00:16:03.780 not worth getting into, but we basically kept in touch and we were on good terms until the Trump campaign

00:16:10.260 came along in 2016. And bizarrely, she started calling me out on Twitter for being supportive of

00:16:18.820 Donald Trump. And you know me, I am supportive of the president, I'm a conservative Republican,

00:16:24.900 but I've also tried to deliver straight news when I'm writing the news, and so I'm not always in that

00:16:32.180 partisan mode. Often I go back and forth, and people know what my views are so they can evaluate my

00:16:37.620 reporting accordingly. But in any case, she was going along with the idea that merely to support

00:16:42.980 the president or to work for a publication that had some sort of tolerance for the president was

00:16:49.380 to be xenophobic, racist, anti-Semitic, and so forth. And she continued making these comments in

00:16:55.300 social media specifically about me. So I wrote to her privately, I said, you know, what gives? I mean,

00:17:01.300 you can call me, you can talk to me if you have a problem or a criticism, and you don't have to do

00:17:07.060 this in public. And I didn't respond to her in public initially. And she didn't return my phone

00:17:13.140 call, but sent me an email essentially saying, I don't want to have anything to do with you. I'm

00:17:18.740 I'm paraphrasing quite significantly. I don't actually remember the exact words she said,

00:17:23.300 but it was something to the effect of the person I used to know was not a xenophobic racist who

00:17:27.860 supported Donald Trump. So she kind of played this cancel culture game. And after the election,

00:17:34.740 she moved from the Wall Street Journal to the New York Times, along with her mentor,

00:17:38.980 Brett Stevens, who was a Pulitzer Prize winning columnist over at the Wall Street Journal,

00:17:43.140 who became disillusioned with Trump and Republicans in general for supporting him.

00:17:49.220 And I should say that Brett Stevens is also quite brilliant, former editor of the Jerusalem Post.

00:17:53.620 He wrote a book called America in Retreat, I believe. And it came out around about 2014,

00:18:00.180 2015. And it was about American foreign policy under Democrats. And it projected a very grim

00:18:07.300 future under what he believed would be a future Hillary Clinton presidency with America in retreat

00:18:12.820 from all of its global obligations, all of its allies and becoming weaker at home. And he believed

00:18:19.940 that America should have a stronger, more robust foreign policy. And I loved the book. The only problem

00:18:26.100 was Brett Stevens seemed to think that the conservative base was isolationist. And I actually

00:18:31.380 disagree. I think the conservative base, like many Americans, prefers to win wars if you're going to

00:18:36.660 get into them, prefers to avoid wars that are pointless and that are waged for countries that don't

00:18:42.500 like us or don't want us there to begin with. And yet there's a huge constituency in the conservative

00:18:48.980 base for a strong American foreign policy that doesn't overcommit our troops or our resources to

00:18:54.900 far-flung lands where we don't really have a national interest. So I wrote a review which was

00:18:59.700 positive and basically said, the only problem is I think he's misjudged the conservative grassroots.

00:19:05.060 Well, the conservative grassroots somehow frightened Brett Stevens and frightened Barry Weiss.

00:19:10.820 And they became staunch anti-Trumpers. And Barry Weiss was vehement on social media about

00:19:16.020 her opposition, not just to me, but to Trump, more importantly. And after Trump won, they moved over

00:19:22.100 from the Journal to the New York Times where they were immediately, instead of being greeted with

00:19:26.900 open arms, they were immediately treated like dirt. People tried to cancel their subscriptions to the

00:19:32.260 Times when Brett Stevens wrote critically about climate change and other left-wing obsessions. And

00:19:38.900 Barry Weiss wrote some very good pieces about cancel culture, about the intolerance on college campuses.

00:19:44.980 She wrote a very interesting book about antisemitism after the Pittsburgh shooting in 2018,

00:19:50.100 which happened in her community. She's from Pittsburgh. And I reviewed the book for Breitbart

00:19:54.500 and said she's basically got most of this right, except the part where she thinks that Donald Trump

00:19:59.460 is to blame. And I went into that as well. She now cites my review proudly on her website because she

00:20:05.460 likes the fact that Breitbart didn't like her book. In her mind, it's enough just to say that Breitbart

00:20:11.060 didn't like you to say that you're against the racist, you know, those racist, terrible, conservative,

00:20:16.340 Trump supporting Breitbart people. So Barry Weiss has actually played the cancel culture game

00:20:22.180 that she has now been victimized by. And so while I think her letter was brilliant and I think it's

00:20:27.940 insightful, it's certainly making the rounds, it's really penetrated into ordinary conversation and

00:20:33.860 discussion. It's not just a news item. People in the Jewish community, I know, are talking about it.

00:20:38.580 People in general, in intellectual circles, are talking about it. The charges she makes against the

00:20:43.380 times are really quite shocking about their intolerance, their anti-Semitism, their complete

00:20:49.700 lack of respect for alternative points of view other than those on the extreme left. I mean,

00:20:53.780 it's very illuminating because I think she really wanted the times to succeed as a kind of marketplace

00:20:59.940 of ideas. But in the end, they rejected her and they actually, she writes in her letter, they directed

00:21:05.300 anti-Semitic remarks at her. And they used the term Nazi to refer to her because she wasn't 0.99

00:21:11.220 completely a left-wing radical. If you're somehow to the right of Mao Tse Tung, you're a reactionary

00:21:18.980 Nazi. And I had the same reaction to this that Dennis Prager, the nationally syndicated talk show host,

00:21:24.420 had yesterday. And he said, and I'm just reading from the quote here,

00:21:27.780 I know how destructive the left is, but it is the naivete and cowardice of the liberal that drives me

00:21:33.700 craziest. And he distinguishes between left and liberal. It is the naivete and cowardice of the

00:21:39.540 liberal that drives me craziest as their lives will be destroyed just as readily as us conservatives.

00:21:46.020 But they still think Donald Trump is the enemy. And that's the problem here is that there are a

00:21:53.140 certain number of liberal never Trumpers who threw in their lot with the left thinking that it was

00:21:58.980 important to fight Trump, that Trump represented illiberalism, that Trump represented repression and

00:22:04.740 prejudice. And it actually is 180 degree the opposite, that it's the left that is illiberal,

00:22:10.340 that it is the left that is intolerant, and that the world in which Donald Trump is president is

00:22:14.500 actually a world of freedom, of tolerance, of openness, where you can say what you want and think

00:22:19.860 what you want and do what you want. And you might get criticized in return. I mean, Donald Trump doesn't

00:22:24.740 pull any punches on Twitter, but that's the worst thing that happens to you. Nobody shuts you down.

00:22:28.980 But in the anti-Trump world, if you hold the wrong view on even one of the many intersectional issues

00:22:34.900 that they think are important, you are canceled. And so Barry Weiss, in a sense, canceled herself.

00:22:40.820 And she speaks for a lot of people who are facing the same dilemma. But what's interesting is it's

00:22:46.100 happening on the left. And if you think this is going to stop after Donald Trump leaves office,

00:22:50.340 if you think this is just a political ploy, well, maybe it is to some extent that Democrats are rioting

00:22:54.900 in the streets and protesting, partly because their real grievance is the fact that they're not in

00:22:58.900 charge, they're not in power. But if you think this ends the minute Joe Biden wins, it doesn't.

00:23:03.140 And in fact, we have that from some of the anti-Trumpers themselves. I did a story a few days ago

00:23:08.500 saying how this doesn't stop when Joe Biden takes the oath of office. They're going to come after not

00:23:13.540 just the Republicans who supported Trump. They're going to come after Tucker Carlson. They're going to

00:23:17.620 come after the media personalities who advanced a conservative perspective. So what the left has in mind is

00:23:24.420 complete totalitarian domination, and they want to chase out any alternative points of view.

00:23:30.340 And finally, Barry Weiss, a liberal from within the left, really, is speaking out against it

00:23:35.140 at the cost of her career, really. And maybe I'm sure her critics inside the Times are saying she just

00:23:40.020 did this to sell more books or to raise her profile and become a heroine or whatever. But notably,

00:23:46.980 I haven't heard one person from the New York Times speak out in her defense. Not one. There's not one

00:23:52.100 person who's come out and said, you know what? She's right. We need to think about whether we've

00:23:56.260 become intolerant. Maybe we need to look at our own practices. Nothing. And I'm imagining that

00:24:01.860 Brett Stevens might say something eventually. But what's happened here is that perhaps, perhaps,

00:24:08.660 there's a liberal awakening about how dangerous the left has become in this country. And you and I've

00:24:12.820 talked about it before. But Barry Weiss, in some degree, is hoist by her own petard here. Because

00:24:19.300 what she tried to do to conservatives is exactly what the left tried to do to her at the New York Times. 0.63

00:24:23.700 Huh. That's incredible. I didn't know all of that history of how she herself

00:24:29.540 tried to, in a way, cancel you, cancel Breitbart. I mean, I've known you for years. And I know that,

00:24:35.540 I mean, obviously, I know you're not anti-Semitic or whatever, or racist. In fact, I know that you're an

00:24:40.580 observant Jew. And she would have known that even more, having worked with you and your now wife. 0.86

00:24:46.020 But she was willing to use that weapon in the partisan war. And she, I guess the thing is,

00:24:53.460 you know, she thought she could ride the back of the tiger. And maybe she would be eaten last, 0.90

00:24:58.020 but I guess she indeed has been eaten. It's so, it's so, that's such a tragic story. It's, it's,

00:25:05.300 it feels like a Greek tragedy that she quit the Wall Street Journal. She denounced you and renounced

00:25:11.460 you and embraced the New York Times, but didn't realize she was actually going into the hands of

00:25:17.460 the true anti-Semites, as she describes. And unbelievable. But, but an important reminder

00:25:24.740 of the difference between the liberals and the left. There aren't a lot of liberals left anymore.

00:25:29.940 There just aren't a lot of liberals who say, yeah, let's have a debate. Yeah,

00:25:33.060 there's a spectrum of opinions. It's just the hard left that, like you say, are really totalitarian.

00:25:37.540 They really are totalitarian. They want a total,

00:25:40.020 total annihilation from the other point of view. They don't want to debate.

00:25:44.580 Yeah. And you know, I think it's time to bury the hatchet between liberals and conservatives,

00:25:49.860 because the common enemy really is the left. The left is a threat to rational, reasoned and

00:25:55.860 tolerant discourse in this country and really in the West in general. And the left believes they're

00:26:01.380 winning the riots, the toppling of statues. They believe they're poised to take power in November.

00:26:07.140 I read about this in my book, read November, but basically they feel they're on the verge of a

00:26:11.140 socialist revolution. They're going to use parliamentary procedures and loopholes in the law 0.82

00:26:18.020 to essentially bring about what they believe will be a second American revolution, one that corrects the

00:26:23.140 legacy of slavery and white supremacy from 1619 that was enshrined in the constitution of 1789 and the

00:26:29.860 declaration of independence of 1776. They're going to begin at year one, which is going to be the

00:26:34.980 year they get rid of Donald Trump. And nobody is going to be safe, not conservatives and not liberals.

00:26:41.060 This is a left wing revolution. Joe Biden is a convenient sort of anodyne face for the most radical

00:26:49.780 movement ever to represent any major political party in the United States. And we are only seeing the

00:26:56.660 beginning of this. It doesn't end if Donald Trump is reelected. But if Donald Trump is reelected,

00:27:01.620 there's a hope of stopping this eventually. But there is no way to reason with the left. There's

00:27:06.500 no way to compromise with the left. The left simply must be defeated. And enough people have to be

00:27:10.900 convinced that its defeat is necessary, that the Democratic Party moves on to other things. It's

00:27:15.860 happened before, after Reagan won twice and then Bush won in 1988. The Democrats turned back to the

00:27:21.140 center. They chose Bill Clinton. They chose someone who could run as a centrist, even if he himself was

00:27:25.540 radical, even if Hillary Clinton grew up an admirer of Saul Alinsky and so forth.

00:27:30.020 Even if all of that was true, Clinton at least understood that the country itself was centrist

00:27:35.060 and wanted stability. The left is offering more disruption. Joe Biden is out there. This is not

00:27:40.820 the Joe Biden of back slapping and back rooms for the last 50 years. Joe Biden is reading from a script.

00:27:47.140 He's saying, and this is a direct quote, he wants revolutionary institutional changes. It's almost like a

00:27:52.900 hostage video watching him read these left wing statements. And he is the presentable face of a

00:27:59.380 radical revolution that is coming our way in November unless liberals wake up and join conservatives to

00:28:05.460 stop it. That's incredible. The book that Joel's referring to is his new book called Red November.

00:28:13.460 Will the country vote red for Trump or red for socialism? Of course, in the US, red is the color

00:28:19.380 associated with the Republican Party. I recall our last conversation. You absolutely terrified me when

00:28:25.220 you talked about the second American revolution. And I think you're exactly right. Why on earth

00:28:31.460 would they stop if they get rid of Trump? That would be a starter pistol because there would be no

00:28:38.260 barriers. I think Trump really is the last thing standing between us. And I just reviewed the history of the

00:28:46.580 the Red Guards and the Maoist Cultural Revolution. It truly feels like that. And it feels like Barry

00:28:52.260 Weiss had her struggle session and lost, I guess. I don't know if the New York Times itself becomes a

00:29:04.340 champion of cancel culture instead of a champion of debate. I find that sad. You know, you said conservatives

00:29:13.780 and liberals have to team up against leftists. I think 10 years ago, people would have said,

00:29:18.260 what are you talking about? Conservatives and liberals are opposites. But these days, I think

00:29:23.380 you're right. Let me give you a quick example. And I don't want to keep you too long. But

00:29:27.300 I find myself these days, Joel, finding common ground with people who a decade ago I would call radical

00:29:34.500 feminists. Because now they're being annihilated by transgender activists who hate the idea of 1.00

00:29:43.380 female sex and biological determination of sex and who want to push trans men into women's prisons, 1.00

00:29:50.660 women's shelters, women's sports. And I find I have common ground with someone who 10 years ago I would

00:29:57.300 say, you're a radical feminist, you're on the other side. No, no. They're actually against the extreme 0.94

00:30:02.500 radicals here. I think I get what you're saying. Barry Weiss may be a liberal,

00:30:08.020 liberal. And you actually told us that she was a bit of a canceler herself. But the average liberal 1.00

00:30:15.380 there, it sounds like, is just going to be hunted next. But I think she's been, in a sense,

00:30:21.860 convinced by fake news. And the fake news story about Trump and about Breitbart in 2016 was that

00:30:28.820 he and we were a bunch of racist anti-Semites and so forth. It's all fake news and it's all based on

00:30:34.580 lies. But it's what many in the media believe because that's the world they live in. One of the

00:30:41.620 interesting points Barry Weiss makes in her letter is that the Times journalists are treating Twitter

00:30:48.020 like it's their real editor. And when I think about my own differences with her, it's interesting to me

00:30:54.660 that she took those differences to Twitter rather than to me personally. And so I think that there's

00:31:01.460 a lesson in there as well about how we interact with one another, that in order to have a real

00:31:06.660 conversation with someone with whom you might disagree about something, you have to pick up a

00:31:10.020 telephone, you have to have some sort of personal interaction. Don't take it to social media, don't

00:31:14.340 take it into the public realm right away. We have to be careful. We need to develop a set of rules of

00:31:20.420 etiquette perhaps that don't rule out speech but actually facilitate speech. And so, you know, maybe

00:31:25.780 we've all learned something from this. But I will just add this note about the transgender issue.

00:31:31.140 There is some humor in my book as well because, you know, you can't write a book called Red November

00:31:35.620 without having a few good laughs at the expense of the would-be communists. And there's a great moment

00:31:42.100 in one of the early presidential debates where Julian Castro, the former housing secretary who

00:31:47.700 was one of the early candidates for the presidency on the Democratic side, said that we had to fight

00:31:53.140 for abortion rights for transgender women too. In other words, for biological males who identify as

00:32:01.220 women. In other words, you have to guarantee the right to abortion for someone who doesn't have a 1.00

00:32:07.460 uterus. And the fact that biologically they can't have an abortion is just there's no meaning to the

00:32:14.180 idea of having an abortion. Well, they still have the right to have an abortion. It reminded me of 0.96

00:32:17.940 that Monty Python sketch from the life of Brian where one of them decides that his name is Loretta.

00:32:23.380 And when one of his colleagues tells him he hasn't got a womb, he says, stop oppressing me. You know,

00:32:29.860 so we've reached that sort of comic stage of American politics. But there is also a dangerous side to it.

00:32:35.300 Well, I find it very sad. And I think the most telling thing is that no one from that massive

00:32:40.340 and mighty institution has come out in support of her, including, as you mentioned, her mentor,

00:32:45.460 Brett Stevens. Very interesting. Well, Joel, thank you for your time. As always, I'd like to give one

00:32:51.620 more shout out to Joel's book, Red November. Will the country vote red for Trump or red for socialism?

00:32:57.380 And let me recommend to you Barry Weiss's letter. You can read it. It's linked in Joel's column on the

00:33:03.540 subject, which you can find at Breitbart.com. Joel's column is called Barry Weiss. Resigns from

00:33:08.500 New York Times. Accuses liberal paper of record of intolerance and anti-Semitism. That's the biggest

00:33:13.700 surprise. But you can see it all on that page. Joel, great to see you. Thanks for coming on the show

00:33:18.260 again. Thanks, Ezra. All right. There you have it. Stay with us. More ahead.

00:33:21.540 Hey, welcome back on my monologue last night. John writes, you guys are awesome. Well-deserved

00:33:33.380 wins and looking forward to more. Well, thanks very much. You know, we have so many fights.

00:33:36.820 I got to tell you about the times we win them, right? Tracy writes, media like the rebel news

00:33:41.700 is so important to Canadian people. Without you, the truth would be completely covered up.

00:33:46.180 Thank you for looking out for our country. Well, I appreciate you saying that. And in all of these

00:33:50.100 cases, there's some risk, some degree of risk, legal risk, physical risk. And we're happy to take it

00:33:56.020 because, you know, as my old friend John O'Sullivan used to say, it's easier to fight

00:33:59.700 in the first ditch than in the last ditch, isn't it? On our newest rebel, Drea, Elizabeth writes,

00:34:06.900 Drea, you did an awesome job on your first story. You're well-spoken, confident, and pretty.

00:34:11.300 Hope we'll see more of you soon. Well, I know you will. In fact, I just saw her next video. I think

00:34:16.260 it's already up on the internet on our YouTube page. She was covering a Fallon Gong story out

00:34:21.940 of Vancouver. So she's doing great reporting in the field already. I'm so pleased with how it's

00:34:26.740 going so far. All right. That's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at

00:34:30.980 Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - July 16, 2020

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