Rebel News Podcast - Three months before U.S. midterms, Infowars purged from the internet. Who will be next？

00:00:00.000 Tonight, every single tech company decided to ban the same conservative news service all on the same day.

00:00:06.680 Three months before the U.S. midterm elections, the purge has begun.

00:00:10.920 It's August 7th and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.

00:00:19.180 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:23.040 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:26.660 You come here once a year with a sign and you feel morally superior.

00:00:30.000 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:40.320 The massive independent news and opinion site called InfoWars was banned from most of the internet yesterday.

00:00:48.520 All at once.

00:00:50.380 Facebook banned them, YouTube, even though they had millions of subscribers.

00:00:55.980 Smaller social media sites like Pinterest.

00:00:58.360 Apple deleted every single one of their podcasts ever.

00:01:04.660 Years of them.

00:01:06.180 I'm talking about Alex Jones and the website InfoWars.com.

00:01:10.960 They didn't say why they were banned, these social media companies.

00:01:15.080 They didn't say this YouTube video is unacceptable for this reason and that Facebook post is unacceptable for that reason.

00:01:23.180 I mean, that could make sense, I suppose.

00:01:25.500 Perhaps Alex Jones and InfoWars did something that was unacceptable under their terms of service.

00:01:30.540 Could be.

00:01:31.660 Though you can find just about anything on Facebook or YouTube that's not banned.

00:01:37.060 No, they all just deleted everything.

00:01:41.160 Anything.

00:01:42.300 Going back years.

00:01:43.400 Decades in some cases.

00:01:44.780 Alex Jones has been online since before most people were online.

00:01:49.200 He's been there since the 90s.

00:01:51.780 Now he's gone.

00:01:53.000 He's just a rumor.

00:01:54.260 He's been unpersoned.

00:01:57.200 Why?

00:01:57.840 Why now?

00:01:58.960 Why all of these social media companies, all these tech companies doing it all within 12 hours of each other?

00:02:05.220 Why the great purge?

00:02:07.240 Is it because Alex Jones and his company InfoWars have massive reach?

00:02:12.180 Not to the fancy people, not to liberals, not in Manhattan or Hollywood, but in flyover country, in red state America, with people who are dissidents.

00:02:20.180 People who Hillary Clinton would call deplorable.

00:02:23.500 Jones was an early backer of Donald Trump and promoted him.

00:02:26.860 Donald Trump appeared on Jones' shows.

00:02:29.100 Is that why he's been banned?

00:02:30.860 But why now?

00:02:31.440 Well, is the reason for the timing that it's just three months before the U.S. midterm elections?

00:02:37.260 Shut down a major voice on the right?

00:02:40.180 Perhaps you've never heard of Alex Jones.

00:02:41.860 Or perhaps you've only heard of him in outtakes from his show that are shown on late night liberal comedy shows mocking him.

00:02:49.220 Perhaps you hate him or ridicule him.

00:02:51.560 And that's fine.

00:02:52.520 But since when has that caused for someone to be unpersoned, literally to have every single word they've ever said or everything they've done just wiped out, deleted, by all the tech companies operating in concert?

00:03:07.940 I've been on Alex Jones' show once.

00:03:10.220 I watch it once in a while.

00:03:11.760 I'm not his spokesman.

00:03:12.880 I simply don't know enough about him or InfoWars.

00:03:15.500 But here's what I do know.

00:03:16.760 He's based in Texas.

00:03:17.960 And like everything in Texas, he's larger than life.

00:03:20.600 He's over the top.

00:03:21.660 He's entertaining.

00:03:22.360 He's loud.

00:03:22.840 He's funny.

00:03:23.900 He's outrageous.

00:03:24.660 He gets into trouble.

00:03:25.580 He goes too far.

00:03:26.400 He indulges in speculation and even in conspiracy theories.

00:03:30.440 He would be impossible in any other country because no other country has the First Amendment like the United States does.

00:03:37.440 So he can say things, whatever he wants, really.

00:03:40.060 And if you don't like it, don't watch it.

00:03:43.680 Sometimes he's very perceptive.

00:03:45.020 Sometimes he uses hyperbole, engages in logical leaps.

00:03:48.160 I think he does it on purpose to show where we could be headed on some trends, the slippery slope.

00:03:53.240 He's a dissident.

00:03:54.580 That's what dissidents do.

00:03:55.940 They dissent.

00:03:56.700 They warn.

00:03:57.560 They raise the alarm.

00:03:58.940 They're not always right.

00:03:59.940 They can't always be right.

00:04:01.100 But I think we need people like them on the right and on the left, I think.

00:04:05.760 But only dissidents on the right are ever banned.

00:04:09.880 A left-wing counterpart to Infowars called the Young Turks is full of conspiracy theory touting kooks on the left, full of profanity and obscenity.

00:04:17.980 Great, no problem.

00:04:19.540 The more debate, the merrier.

00:04:21.020 Don't like it, don't watch it.

00:04:22.040 But they're not deleted by all the tech companies all on the same day.

00:04:28.200 Imagine that.

00:04:28.980 Apple, Google, YouTube, Facebook, Pinterest even.

00:04:33.280 All of them banned Alex Jones within 12 hours.

00:04:36.760 You'd call that a conspiracy theory if someone said it would happen.

00:04:40.060 Alex Jones said it would happen and it did happen.

00:04:43.260 So it's not a conspiracy theory, is it?

00:04:45.640 It's a conspiracy fact.

00:04:46.880 What's worse is that this ban was egged on by the media party, by the establishment media who want to silence him.

00:04:54.720 Oh, I don't know, for business competitive reasons, for sure.

00:04:57.320 But also for ideological conformity reasons.

00:05:00.820 As in, they hate that someone else is breaking their business cartel, their grip on viewers.

00:05:05.580 But they also hate that someone is breaking their ideas cartel.

00:05:09.520 Someone is talking about things that they don't want talked about.

00:05:12.720 Look at this tweet from a CNN reporter just a few weeks ago.

00:05:16.880 This is CNN's Oliver Darcy.

00:05:19.400 Facebook invited me to an event today where the company aimed to tout its commitment to fighting fake news and misinformation.

00:05:25.320 I asked them why InfoWars is still allowed on the platform.

00:05:28.700 I didn't get a good answer.

00:05:31.360 That's one of dozens of tweets that he did demanding that his conservative rivals be censored.

00:05:38.640 And Facebook did.

00:05:40.200 They listened to him.

00:05:41.700 CNN whines about Donald Trump being really mean to the media.

00:05:45.480 But Donald Trump has not called for CNN to be banned or shut down.

00:05:48.900 He mocks them.

00:05:49.960 That's his free speech.

00:05:51.700 CNN calls for InfoWars to be shut down.

00:05:53.980 And it happened.

00:05:55.380 And they're gleeful.

00:05:56.780 And here's the New York Times today.

00:05:58.780 They're aiming for the one last social media company that, at least at the minute I record this video, has not yet banned him.

00:06:05.060 Yet.

00:06:05.800 And that's Twitter.

00:06:06.600 Here's the New York Times on that.

00:06:08.480 Facebook, YouTube, Pinterest, and Apple have removed Alex Jones and InfoWars from their platforms should Twitter follow suits.

00:06:16.100 All the liberal media smell blood.

00:06:17.800 They're a mob.

00:06:18.400 They're literally calling up anyone who does business with Alex Jones and pressuring them, bullying them, embarrassing them, threatening them, maybe.

00:06:25.080 I don't know.

00:06:26.300 Unless they ban him, too.

00:06:28.560 No one is standing up to this.

00:06:30.140 Not the ACLU.

00:06:31.320 Not the free speech groups.

00:06:32.620 Not any press association that I've seen.

00:06:35.940 Actually, they've become the mob, haven't they?

00:06:37.520 No normal person would want to censor Alex Jones.

00:06:39.920 If you don't like Alex Jones, don't watch him.

00:06:42.300 Or watch him to laugh him and mock him or debate him.

00:06:45.140 I don't know.

00:06:45.600 I don't care.

00:06:46.060 Only hardcore leftists, the Antifa types, the alt-left types, the Democrats, want to deplatform and censor their enemies.

00:06:54.940 Hand in hand with the Democratic Party.

00:06:57.360 Here's a Democrat senator from Connecticut who tweeted,

00:07:02.260 InfoWars is the tip of a giant iceberg of hate and lies that uses sites like Facebook and YouTube.

00:07:07.520 To tear our nation apart.

00:07:09.400 These companies must do more than take down one website.

00:07:12.580 The survival of our democracy depends on it.

00:07:15.740 Really?

00:07:17.080 Does the survival of the U.S. democracy depend on censoring people that politicians say should be censored?

00:07:23.960 Hate and lies.

00:07:24.900 Well, maybe.

00:07:26.300 Maybe Alex Jones engages in hate and lies.

00:07:28.380 But I think the left hate and lies him right back.

00:07:32.160 Since when we ban a natural human emotion, that's what hate is.

00:07:36.020 What does it mean to ban hate?

00:07:37.680 You can make the same video but only if you feel happy inside?

00:07:41.260 You can't do a video if you're feeling mad about something?

00:07:44.820 What on earth would that be?

00:07:47.060 Lies. 0.99

00:07:47.540 Right.

00:07:47.920 It's not against the law to lie or to make factual mistakes or to exaggerate.

00:07:52.060 If it were, there really wouldn't be any journalists or politicians left standing.

00:07:56.120 The U.S. and to a lesser degree Canada permits people to be angry.

00:07:59.920 In fact, speaking out when you're angry is a safety valve.

00:08:02.500 It's better than blowing things up.

00:08:03.900 Which is what they do in places without freedom of expression.

00:08:06.440 Where there is no constructive outlet.

00:08:08.160 But it's not against the law to lie, by the way.

00:08:10.640 Congress and Parliament would be empty if it was.

00:08:13.600 But more to the point, we are all allowed to make up our own minds about whether someone

00:08:17.280 is telling the truth.

00:08:18.440 Lying is merely wrong or is just stating an opinion.

00:08:21.460 We don't hand that power over to politicians or, in this case, secretive corporations.

00:08:25.620 Really, whatever can be said about Alex Jones and Infowars, when it comes to speculation

00:08:30.800 or fake news, can be said just as much about many other broadcasters.

00:08:35.240 No one less than the great Dan Rather.

00:08:38.160 Literally used forged documents in the days before the U.S. 2004 presidential election

00:08:43.300 to claim that George W. Bush got an inappropriate excuse from serving in the military.

00:08:49.560 The documents were forged.

00:08:52.800 Dan Rather used them anyways.

00:08:54.240 He's the grandpa of fake news.

00:08:56.140 And as you can see by that story, a decade later, Dan Rather and half of the media are

00:09:00.500 still insisting that they were true enough.

00:09:02.900 My point is that conspiracy theories, speculations, false news, outrageousness, and just plain old

00:09:08.880 mistakes, they're not just the property of the right or the left or anyone.

00:09:13.120 You might recall shortly after Donald Trump was elected, the CBC literally hired actors.

00:09:18.540 You can see them here.

00:09:20.040 To go onto Toronto city streets, Montreal city streets that pretend to be racist and walk

00:09:26.020 through Canadian streets trying to entrap unsuspecting Canadians with racist comments and getting

00:09:32.260 them to buy racist shirts.

00:09:35.400 There was no real racism there, not enough to find and report.

00:09:38.200 So the state broadcaster used your tax dollars to literally pay actors to pretend.

00:09:44.040 And they filmed it and they called that news.

00:09:46.240 So yeah, call Alex Jones a conspiracy theorist if you like, but I'll put the CBC in 60 minutes

00:09:51.800 in the same bag.

00:09:53.260 You don't have to like him, but he's got an enormous following, Alex Jones.

00:09:55.980 Tens of millions of viewers every month.

00:09:57.940 Huge.

00:09:58.280 He's been at this for really 20 years.

00:10:01.760 This is 1999.

00:10:03.640 He really is an internet pioneer.

00:10:05.380 What else you have to have to say?

00:10:06.460 Whatever else you have to say about him.

00:10:07.920 He's over the top.

00:10:08.580 Absolutely.

00:10:09.480 But he's done real journalism that others haven't.

00:10:12.200 Like when he sneaked into that ultra elite gathering each year in California called the

00:10:16.740 Bohemian Grove, that's a bizarre secret club of the ultra elite, including several former

00:10:22.980 U.S. presidents.

00:10:23.780 Even Stephen Harper has attended one of their secret summer camps.

00:10:27.180 It's a summer camp for grownups and it's secret and it's by invitation only and only guys

00:10:34.180 allowed and, you know, the world's top bankers and military leaders and politicians.

00:10:38.820 It's really weird.

00:10:39.880 And Alex Jones sneaked in there with a video camera and did some real reporting, including

00:10:45.700 their bizarre rituals.

00:10:46.800 I'm just going to show you in 90 seconds.

00:10:48.520 This is what Alex Jones filmed in this secret society.

00:10:53.620 Begone, dole care. 1.00

00:10:55.980 Fire shall have its will of thee.

00:10:58.600 Begone, dole care. 1.00

00:11:00.660 And all the winds make merry with thy doubt.

00:11:04.620 Hail, fellowships, eternal flame.

00:11:07.040 Once again, Midsommar sets us free. 0.91

00:11:12.160 Thank you.

00:11:42.160 Thank you

00:12:12.160 That's just weird, but that's real reporting

00:12:26.300 about something a bit occult, a bit odd.

00:12:29.460 That's Alex Jones' specialty.

00:12:30.760 He goes too far sometimes, but so what?

00:12:32.920 Don't watch him if you don't like it.

00:12:35.020 But banning him?

00:12:37.280 But it's not just him.

00:12:38.020 He's the first to go, but you think he'll be the last?

00:12:43.020 Yesterday, Tommy Robinson was banned from Instagram,

00:12:47.320 which is a photo-sharing service.

00:12:49.540 It's owned by Facebook.

00:12:50.480 He was already banned by Twitter.

00:12:51.840 I think it's a 50-50 chance he'll be kicked off Facebook.

00:12:55.660 He has nearly 900,000 followers on Facebook, but so what?

00:12:58.960 He had 400,000 followers on Twitter, and they just kicked him off.

00:13:02.800 I, myself, for the first time ever, was locked out of Twitter over the weekend.

00:13:06.520 It was bizarre.

00:13:07.820 It was a comment I wrote literally four years ago.

00:13:12.160 I don't even know what it was referring to now.

00:13:14.920 Twitter said I had violated some obscure foreign rule,

00:13:20.640 and I had to delete it, or I couldn't continue with Twitter.

00:13:23.620 I've made almost 100,000 tweets in the past 10 years.

00:13:26.620 Something from four years ago, obviously dug up by some George Soros-funded leftist activist group,

00:13:32.520 was used to shut me down.

00:13:33.720 And that's probably what happened against Alex Jones and Infowars.

00:13:37.760 A directed, organized campaign likely spent months going through everything Jones has ever said or done or written,

00:13:44.600 and probably put together a detailed dossier and shopped it privately to these Internet companies all at the same time,

00:13:51.160 and started to really pressure them.

00:13:53.360 And CNN was obviously part of this, too.

00:13:55.300 They were the stalking horse.

00:13:56.640 They were boasting about it.

00:13:58.240 And when the first company caved in, the rest of them caved in, too.

00:14:02.080 I mean, who would want to be the last one left standing by Alex Jones, right?

00:14:05.300 I mean, look at that New York Times pressure poll on Twitter.

00:14:07.880 I'm sure they have the dossier, too.

00:14:09.500 Everyone has it except for Alex Jones and Infowars.

00:14:12.360 They weren't shown the complaints against them.

00:14:14.500 They had no chance to explain or remedy a problem or appeal.

00:14:18.820 No, no.

00:14:19.320 This is coordinated.

00:14:20.900 With the Democrats, too.

00:14:22.040 You saw that senator.

00:14:23.040 But, of course, Silicon Valley is just a fancy way of saying San Francisco.

00:14:27.400 They're all Democrats out there.

00:14:29.640 It's the home of Berkeley and Antifa and other left-wing extremists.

00:14:33.560 They're all hardcore left-wing.

00:14:36.060 And they know their job.

00:14:39.020 Stop Donald Trump.

00:14:41.240 They know that Donald Trump won in 2016 on the Internet,

00:14:43.740 and they want to derail him for the 2018 midterms and the 2020 presidential election.

00:14:48.780 They want to silence the right.

00:14:50.960 They want to start with Alex Jones because he's controversial,

00:14:54.100 and many moderates love to hate him.

00:14:55.940 And he talks about conspiracy theories.

00:14:57.760 But if they can take him down with his millions of viewers,

00:15:00.840 they can take anyone down.

00:15:02.940 Breitbart will obviously be next in the U.S.

00:15:06.300 And, of course, we're enemy number one here in Canada.

00:15:08.460 Remember this story of Justin Trudeau personally threatening the COO of Facebook

00:15:12.920 that if she doesn't shut down Facebook pages that Justin Trudeau doesn't like

00:15:17.120 before the 2019 federal election, he will force Facebook to do so through regulation.

00:15:22.420 Gee, who's he talking about?

00:15:23.560 Well, Gerald Butts will answer that.

00:15:25.260 He's Justin Trudeau's principal secretary.

00:15:27.120 He is obsessed with the rebel.

00:15:29.760 He's already demanded that Twitter delete any satirical accounts

00:15:33.900 that mock liberal cabinet ministers.

00:15:35.600 And Twitter complied with him.

00:15:38.000 And I've shown you before how British MPs have positively shouted at YouTube

00:15:42.820 demanding they delete Tommy Robinson's videos.

00:15:46.400 I mean, they are appearing.

00:15:47.800 They are in my recommended timeline at the moment.

00:15:50.680 So because I've been searching on my iPad for national action videos,

00:15:56.120 I, as a result, have the first two videos recommended to me by YouTube

00:16:01.980 when I just click on, as I've just done this afternoon, I click on to YouTube,

00:16:06.660 the first two recommendations are Tommy Robinson videos.

00:16:11.120 So the Tommy Robinson that was identified as part of the Finsbury Park online radicalisation process,

00:16:16.920 that's what YouTube's recommended.

00:16:18.700 I've not searched for it.

00:16:20.280 YouTube has recommended that to me.

00:16:23.080 Doesn't that cause you some serious alarm?

00:16:25.220 I can't speak to these particular videos.

00:16:27.580 Personally, it causes me a lot of alarm, but I will take this back to our team

00:16:31.960 and see why this has happened.

00:16:33.340 It's not even just about the individual videos.

00:16:34.960 It's actually a recommended channel.

00:16:36.460 I have got up here.

00:16:37.480 It is coming up as my recommended channels

00:16:39.840 that one of the recommended channels for me is Tommy Robinson recommended channel.

00:16:47.140 They're not even hiding it.

00:16:48.400 It's a war on freedom.

00:16:49.740 It's a great purge.

00:16:51.420 They won't stop with Tommy Robinson and Infowars.

00:16:53.920 They'll move on to us, too, of course, and not a peep from the media against it.

00:16:59.720 They all love that their ideological and business rivals are being run out of business.

00:17:05.920 Have you heard from the ACLU, from Reporters Without Borders,

00:17:09.060 from the White House Correspondents Association, from any media association?

00:17:15.120 I'm kidding.

00:17:16.360 Of course you haven't.

00:17:18.260 Alex Jones was one of the biggest things on the Internet until yesterday.

00:17:22.040 Today, go on Apple, YouTube, Facebook.

00:17:25.720 He's just a rumor.

00:17:27.560 He's been unpersoned.

00:17:28.860 He's been thrown down the memory hole, as Orwell would say.

00:17:32.580 Maybe that's going to happen to me one day.

00:17:34.440 Maybe that'll happen to the rebel one day.

00:17:37.320 And maybe it'll happen to you the day after.

00:17:40.180 Oh, well.

00:17:41.400 At least we'll all be able to watch fun cat videos online

00:17:45.160 and all the pop songs we can stomach.

00:17:49.080 Stay with us for more on this.

00:17:50.600 Welcome back.

00:18:08.180 Well, the role of censorship of these tech giants is terrifying to me

00:18:12.440 and has been for a couple of years, ever since I read that op-ed by Eric Schmidt,

00:18:17.720 the senior executive at Google.

00:18:20.540 He was writing in the New York Times,

00:18:22.660 dreaming about a day when there would be a spell checker, but for hate.

00:18:29.380 He wasn't whispering this in some secret meeting.

00:18:32.160 He was writing about this boastfully in the New York Times.

00:18:36.200 Imagine that.

00:18:36.840 You're writing an email to a friend.

00:18:38.040 You're typing some Facebook post,

00:18:40.120 and it corrects your wrong think.

00:18:43.440 The same way we have autocorrect for spelling.

00:18:46.900 Imagine that if the ultra left-wing bosses at the social media companies

00:18:52.640 could design a spell checker, but for your illegal emotions.

00:18:59.480 Well, I think we are pretty much at that stage now, and who better to talk about it

00:19:03.620 than what I think is the world's leading journalist on the matter of censorship

00:19:08.940 by these Silicon Valley billionaires?

00:19:11.880 Our friend Alan Bokhari.

00:19:13.720 He is the senior technology correspondent at Bright Bar News.

00:19:16.960 I'm great to see you again.

00:19:18.300 Unfortunately, it is because of bad news.

00:19:20.260 Alex Jones and Infowars just deleted en masse, vaporized,

00:19:24.040 thrown down the memory hole, as Orwell would say,

00:19:25.960 on pretty much every platform out there except for Twitter.

00:19:29.280 Yeah, it was like a set of dominoes.

00:19:32.420 First, Apple took them off their store, and then Facebook, then YouTube,

00:19:38.220 then Spotify, then finally Pinterest.

00:19:40.680 I didn't even know that people still use Pinterest.

00:19:43.360 But all of these platforms, one after another in the space of 24 hours,

00:19:47.060 banned Alex Jones and Infowars.

00:19:49.760 And regardless of how you feel about Infowars, whether you're a fan or not,

00:19:53.780 I think everyone should be concerned that a handful of Silicon Valley executives

00:19:59.600 essentially gets to decide who has a platform on the Internet and who doesn't.

00:20:04.860 And of course, you can say, well, Alex Jones still has his own website.

00:20:07.560 But the reality of the web today is if you don't have access to these distribution channels

00:20:12.440 like Facebook and YouTube and the App Store and the Google Play Store,

00:20:16.160 which CNN are now campaigning to get inbound there as well,

00:20:19.060 then you are severely limited in your audience.

00:20:21.660 You know, Mark Tracy, who is a left-of-centre commentator, he said just...

00:20:30.640 He actually works for the Young Turks. He's a very left-man.

00:20:33.320 Yeah. He's quite thoughtful about free speech.

00:20:36.940 He says, just for the sheer public record,

00:20:41.300 Alex Jones interviewed world leaders, political leaders.

00:20:44.300 I mean, he interviewed Donald Trump famously.

00:20:45.940 And, you know, he has an enormous track record of public life.

00:20:50.640 And some of it was accurate and some of it wasn't.

00:20:53.240 And some of it was hilarious and entertaining.

00:20:55.200 And some was dispiriting, whatever.

00:20:57.160 But just to vaporize it, to turn that whole thing into a rumor,

00:21:01.220 to delete his entire body of work,

00:21:06.480 to un-person him.

00:21:08.880 I mean, there's...

00:21:09.880 I've talked about this on other occasions,

00:21:12.680 that old Roman concept of damnatio memoriae,

00:21:17.280 to delete someone from any memory,

00:21:20.380 to scrape them off of paintings,

00:21:22.160 to destroy sculptures of them,

00:21:24.180 to make it illegal to even say their name.

00:21:28.580 That was a crazy concept by...

00:21:31.200 Or the old Stalin thing where he removed...

00:21:33.880 That's right.

00:21:34.880 It's very Stalinistic when they would edit photos.

00:21:37.160 That's what it is for Apple to delete an entire body of work.

00:21:40.780 Sorry, I'm ranting too much.

00:21:41.980 Let's hear from you, Alan.

00:21:44.940 No, I mean, you're absolutely right.

00:21:46.700 We've allowed these really unaccountable tech companies

00:21:50.660 to amass a huge amount of power

00:21:52.320 over what we can see on the Internet

00:21:55.060 and what will be recorded.

00:21:57.080 I mean, you know, Alex Jones' entire archive of videos

00:21:59.980 is now inaccessible on YouTube.

00:22:01.920 You can't find them.

00:22:03.880 Yes, Alex Jones still has them himself,

00:22:06.100 but they're just being banished from the Internet.

00:22:08.700 The Internet has become this repository of information

00:22:10.780 where people go for research purposes,

00:22:14.540 for all manner of things,

00:22:15.320 and now people can't access this.

00:22:17.420 And even if you totally disagree with Alex Jones,

00:22:20.060 he's still been an important political figure,

00:22:22.660 especially over the past few years.

00:22:25.000 And what's growing in importance

00:22:26.300 is probably why they terminated his accounts.

00:22:28.640 And I think it all comes down to, like,

00:22:33.520 again, it comes down to your view of,

00:22:36.200 I think I mentioned this before,

00:22:37.700 it comes down to your view of human nature

00:22:39.060 and how gullible you think people are.

00:22:41.840 I mean, if you think Alex Jones is this terrible conspiracy theorist

00:22:44.980 who peddles false news,

00:22:47.020 then why don't you trust ordinary people

00:22:49.160 to make that determination for themselves?

00:22:51.320 Why does it have to be, you know,

00:22:53.560 a handful of elites in Silicon Valley?

00:22:55.000 Why do they know better than the average user?

00:22:58.120 Yeah.

00:22:58.760 And by the way,

00:23:00.900 sometimes I watch things that I know

00:23:02.880 are fantastical or fabulous

00:23:04.880 because I want to know what the other side of the story is,

00:23:08.680 because I want to be entertained.

00:23:11.120 For whatever reasons,

00:23:12.260 I don't need to explain myself.

00:23:14.400 And obviously,

00:23:15.160 if literally millions of people

00:23:17.120 positively opted in

00:23:19.220 to get his YouTube videos

00:23:21.340 and Facebook comments by signing up,

00:23:23.360 I mean, you don't have to watch him,

00:23:25.440 but obviously millions of people want to.

00:23:28.420 It's quite something for Facebook, YouTube, Google,

00:23:31.480 not yet Twitter,

00:23:33.120 but I think they'll fall soon.

00:23:34.720 It's quite something for them to say,

00:23:36.320 we disagree with millions of our customers.

00:23:39.520 We will not let you hear from this person.

00:23:42.680 But what's so weird, Alan,

00:23:44.360 is that they will not particularize what the beef is.

00:23:47.520 They didn't say,

00:23:48.500 this video on that day broke this rule.

00:23:51.660 They just said, all your work's ever.

00:23:53.860 You are a person that has to be unpersoned.

00:23:56.540 I find that creepy.

00:23:59.540 Yeah, it doesn't make sense at all

00:24:02.060 that they'd all ban him in the space for 24 hours as well.

00:24:05.140 So they all suddenly decided independently

00:24:07.640 that he suddenly violated their rules.

00:24:10.400 That doesn't make sense.

00:24:11.680 I mean, clearly they saw Apple,

00:24:14.300 either they were coordinating

00:24:15.360 or they saw Apple taking action

00:24:16.720 and thought, okay,

00:24:17.220 it's time for us to take action as well.

00:24:18.560 So the idea that they independently

00:24:21.420 looked at their own rules

00:24:22.780 and decided on that day

00:24:24.080 in the space of 24 hours

00:24:25.220 that Ag Jones is violating the rules

00:24:27.280 of each particular platform that exists,

00:24:29.220 it sounds like nonsense to me.

00:24:30.920 And that every single video of his

00:24:32.620 happened to violate the rules.

00:24:33.680 I mean, I know that we here at The Rebel

00:24:35.780 have produced more than 9,000 videos

00:24:38.600 and we're only three and a half years old.

00:24:40.440 I can only imagine his body of work

00:24:43.340 was much larger to vaporize them all.

00:24:45.760 That's another good point, actually.

00:24:48.240 It's a very draconian.

00:24:49.300 A lot of these tech companies

00:24:50.860 leap straight as extremely draconian punishments

00:24:53.680 for people they don't like.

00:24:56.060 So Patreon, for example,

00:24:57.400 they permanently banned Brittany Pettibone

00:25:00.560 a few months ago

00:25:03.140 and there was no review period.

00:25:06.160 But on the other hand,

00:25:06.940 I recently did a story

00:25:07.620 about this far-left podcast host

00:25:10.080 who was openly advocating for violence

00:25:11.780 against right-wing protesters on Twitter.

00:25:14.860 And that's supposed to be

00:25:15.940 a big no-no for Patreon.

00:25:17.560 But what they did is

00:25:18.600 they placed his account under review

00:25:20.260 and then they let him back on

00:25:21.940 after he deleted the tweets.

00:25:23.320 So they'll take these draconian measures

00:25:25.080 like wiping all of Alex Jones' channel,

00:25:28.940 whereas they'll be far more lenient

00:25:31.200 to people they have ideological agreements with.

00:25:34.880 And the other thing is

00:25:35.800 why do they even need to be so draconian?

00:25:38.000 If there's a particular Alex Jones video

00:25:40.440 they object to,

00:25:41.240 why don't they just ban that one?

00:25:43.620 I'm not saying I support that,

00:25:45.340 but it seems to be massive overkill

00:25:47.120 to ban the entire channel

00:25:49.360 just for one or two videos.

00:25:50.560 And I think that goes

00:25:51.140 for all channel bans, frankly.

00:25:53.000 Yeah.

00:25:53.660 You know, someone,

00:25:54.440 I was talking about this

00:25:56.240 on Twitter over the weekend

00:25:57.120 and someone said,

00:25:57.820 well, you know,

00:25:59.440 you wouldn't expect them

00:26:00.380 to carry works by Adolf Hitler,

00:26:02.560 would you?

00:26:02.960 Well, out of curiosity,

00:26:04.140 I went to the Apple store

00:26:06.320 and I typed in Mein Kampf

00:26:09.100 and hit after hit after hit.

00:26:11.700 You can get it as an audio book.

00:26:13.500 You can get it as a podcast.

00:26:15.480 And I think that's appropriate

00:26:16.720 because it's a historical work

00:26:18.240 that's very relevant.

00:26:20.380 And why would we pretend it never happened?

00:26:24.420 I mean...

00:26:25.820 And also,

00:26:26.560 how poor must your opinion be

00:26:28.240 of ordinary people

00:26:29.060 if you think

00:26:29.540 if they're allowed to access

00:26:30.620 this sort of forbidden knowledge

00:26:31.760 will somehow be corrupted

00:26:32.640 and turn into racists

00:26:33.720 and neo-Nazis.

00:26:34.880 And that's ridiculous.

00:26:35.620 Obviously, a small minority

00:26:36.560 will always be extremists.

00:26:38.320 But this idea

00:26:39.180 that allowing hate speech

00:26:41.300 to circulate

00:26:42.080 will somehow corrupt humanity

00:26:43.620 means you have

00:26:44.080 a pretty poor idea of humanity

00:26:45.700 and, you know,

00:26:46.480 their rationality.

00:26:47.880 You know,

00:26:48.420 I want to refer to Mike Tracy

00:26:49.560 one more time

00:26:50.160 only because,

00:26:51.120 as you point out,

00:26:51.720 he's a thoughtful

00:26:52.460 leftist libertarian

00:26:54.580 from the Young Turks,

00:26:56.080 which is sort of like

00:26:56.940 the Alex Jones of the left.

00:26:58.600 Like, they go too far.

00:26:59.800 They're over the top.

00:27:00.680 They're outrageous.

00:27:01.800 They swear.

00:27:03.320 They really are mirror images

00:27:04.800 in certain ways,

00:27:05.820 but, you know,

00:27:06.940 they're leftists.

00:27:07.780 So they're celebrated

00:27:08.880 by YouTube.

00:27:10.040 YouTube's president

00:27:10.800 has photos taken

00:27:12.300 with the Young Turks.

00:27:13.280 But this Michael Tracy,

00:27:14.460 he challenged libertarians

00:27:17.480 on the right.

00:27:18.040 And I know you have

00:27:18.840 lately, Alan, too.

00:27:20.100 And I think this is

00:27:21.660 something I'd love you

00:27:22.280 to expand on.

00:27:23.760 The traditional

00:27:24.580 pure libertarian response

00:27:26.820 is, well,

00:27:27.880 government shouldn't regulate it.

00:27:29.480 We should just create

00:27:30.460 our own Facebook,

00:27:32.800 Twitter,

00:27:33.380 YouTube,

00:27:33.980 Google,

00:27:34.480 Amazon,

00:27:35.400 Pinterest,

00:27:36.240 our own,

00:27:36.900 as if those won't be

00:27:38.180 corrupted and co-opted,

00:27:40.100 as if deeper

00:27:41.980 internet infrastructure

00:27:43.100 wouldn't cut us off.

00:27:43.980 But Michael Tracy,

00:27:44.800 thoughtful guy,

00:27:46.420 says that would be like

00:27:47.460 saying in the 1890s,

00:27:49.200 huh,

00:27:49.620 if you don't like

00:27:50.340 dealing with

00:27:51.440 J.D. Rockefeller

00:27:52.660 and Standard Oil,

00:27:53.980 why don't you set up

00:27:54.620 your own oil refinery?

00:27:55.620 That's what libertarians

00:27:57.420 would do.

00:27:59.060 That's the scale

00:28:00.600 required.

00:28:02.480 You can't just start

00:28:03.220 your own oil refinery

00:28:04.200 if the oil

00:28:05.260 and the steel

00:28:06.160 and the railways

00:28:06.920 and the coal

00:28:07.380 is all in an oligopoly.

00:28:09.180 That's what they're saying,

00:28:10.280 really.

00:28:10.420 There's no way

00:28:11.160 to just opt out

00:28:12.340 and start your own.

00:28:14.340 That's true.

00:28:15.000 And honestly,

00:28:15.820 I would say

00:28:16.200 the left libertarians

00:28:18.440 like Tracy

00:28:19.660 and Glenn Greenwald

00:28:20.580 as well,

00:28:21.120 I mean,

00:28:21.760 they're making

00:28:22.480 much more sense

00:28:23.220 than the never-trumpers

00:28:24.200 and some of the

00:28:25.180 principled conservatives

00:28:26.500 who say that Facebook

00:28:27.260 and Twitter

00:28:27.660 can do what they want.

00:28:28.980 First of all,

00:28:30.020 this isn't really

00:28:30.440 a free market

00:28:31.040 we're talking about here.

00:28:32.700 So in order to compete

00:28:33.680 with Twitter

00:28:34.220 or Facebook,

00:28:35.960 especially like

00:28:37.120 going forward

00:28:37.600 the next 10 years

00:28:38.380 as smartphones

00:28:38.960 and tablets

00:28:39.540 begin to replace

00:28:41.060 desktops and laptops,

00:28:42.680 you need access

00:28:43.440 to app stores

00:28:44.120 because you can only

00:28:47.040 get on smartphones

00:28:47.780 and tablets

00:28:48.320 via app stores

00:28:49.420 and the app stores

00:28:51.080 are controlled

00:28:51.620 by either Apple

00:28:52.920 they run

00:28:53.900 the Apple App Store

00:28:54.620 or Google

00:28:55.120 they control Google Play

00:28:56.080 and those two companies

00:28:57.520 have a,

00:28:58.380 this is not an exaggerated figure,

00:28:59.740 they have a 99%

00:29:01.200 market share

00:29:02.780 over the smartphone market.

00:29:04.640 So if both of those

00:29:06.120 companies decide

00:29:06.980 to ban you

00:29:07.520 from their stores

00:29:08.320 as they did to Gap

00:29:09.600 which is a Twitter competitor,

00:29:11.000 then you're effectively

00:29:11.740 locked out of the

00:29:12.420 smartphone market

00:29:13.120 and you can't compete.

00:29:14.700 It's like if USPS

00:29:16.580 and UPS

00:29:19.100 got together

00:29:19.620 and decided FedEx

00:29:20.400 isn't allowed

00:29:20.760 to use the roads.

00:29:22.700 Yeah.

00:29:22.920 You know,

00:29:24.660 I see that Gary Kahn,

00:29:27.480 a former

00:29:28.080 cabinet member

00:29:29.900 of Donald Trump

00:29:30.860 said,

00:29:32.140 I think he was

00:29:32.560 in Breitbart.com

00:29:33.460 I read this,

00:29:34.480 that Facebook now

00:29:35.940 has more power

00:29:37.540 over America

00:29:39.120 and is in more

00:29:39.920 and is jeopardizing

00:29:41.220 America more

00:29:42.080 than the big banks

00:29:43.180 were right before

00:29:44.240 the 2008 crash.

00:29:45.820 I thought that was

00:29:46.300 a strange juxtaposition

00:29:48.200 but of course

00:29:49.120 it's true

00:29:49.760 and of course

00:29:50.980 Facebook is more

00:29:52.000 dominant

00:29:52.440 and Amazon,

00:29:53.680 Google,

00:29:53.980 YouTube,

00:29:54.220 Twitter

00:29:54.740 more dominant

00:29:55.700 in our lives

00:29:56.440 than Standard Oil

00:29:57.460 was 100 years ago.

00:29:58.980 I think our side

00:30:01.000 and by that

00:30:01.540 I mean people

00:30:02.000 who believe

00:30:02.320 in free speech

00:30:03.120 are so focused

00:30:05.880 on, you know,

00:30:06.680 don't step on me,

00:30:09.340 don't, you know,

00:30:10.020 don't, you know,

00:30:11.100 the Gadsden flag,

00:30:12.200 don't tread on me,

00:30:13.800 do no harm.

00:30:14.800 We're so used to just saying

00:30:16.020 don't punch me

00:30:16.880 and leave me alone 0.81

00:30:17.640 that when we need

00:30:20.000 to push back

00:30:20.820 against these tech

00:30:21.920 titans,

00:30:22.500 there's no one

00:30:23.040 on our team.

00:30:24.340 There's an increasingly

00:30:25.240 popular remix

00:30:26.240 of the Gadsden flag

00:30:27.220 going around

00:30:27.800 in which the snake

00:30:28.480 is being stepped on

00:30:29.580 by a foot

00:30:31.000 that has the logos

00:30:32.080 of Facebook,

00:30:32.760 Google,

00:30:33.060 and Twitter on it

00:30:33.680 and the snake says

00:30:34.620 well at least

00:30:35.000 it's not the government.

00:30:36.100 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:37.200 It's time maybe

00:30:37.980 for the snake

00:30:38.560 to bite back.

00:30:39.920 I was pleased

00:30:40.500 that Gary Kahn

00:30:42.180 mentioned that.

00:30:43.100 I haven't seen

00:30:43.620 anyone else

00:30:44.180 in cabinet yet.

00:30:45.080 I haven't seen

00:30:45.700 Donald Trump Jr.

00:30:48.220 really call for it.

00:30:49.420 He's a pretty good proxy

00:30:50.800 for his father sometimes.

00:30:52.920 My last question

00:30:54.240 to you, Alan,

00:30:55.060 is the timing here.

00:30:56.920 Alex Jones

00:30:57.560 has been doing

00:30:58.780 InfoWars

00:30:59.400 for almost 20 years.

00:31:01.460 I mean really

00:31:01.940 since the internet

00:31:02.660 was a baby

00:31:03.260 and he's been doing

00:31:05.360 this for so long

00:31:06.580 and he really

00:31:07.760 him and the Young Turks

00:31:09.680 really did the whole

00:31:10.540 YouTube TV show thing.

00:31:11.980 They invented it

00:31:12.720 for years.

00:31:14.200 I have to tell you

00:31:15.280 we here at the Rebel

00:31:16.700 modeled ourselves

00:31:17.540 after both

00:31:18.500 InfoWars

00:31:19.900 and the Young Turks

00:31:21.100 in terms of

00:31:21.620 how do you do it

00:31:22.480 and we look to them

00:31:23.620 as a business role model.

00:31:24.740 We're our own

00:31:25.200 editorial creature

00:31:26.040 but for this

00:31:28.500 to happen now

00:31:29.480 Whatever you think

00:31:30.960 about him editorially

00:31:31.760 I mean Alex Jones

00:31:32.460 is clearly a successful

00:31:33.380 businessman.

00:31:33.960 Yeah, but here's my

00:31:35.180 point about how long

00:31:36.200 he's been doing this.

00:31:37.920 Now, three months

00:31:39.400 to the US midterm elections

00:31:41.000 is that coincidental

00:31:43.060 that he's been online

00:31:45.160 for 19 years

00:31:46.240 but they're taking him

00:31:47.280 out now

00:31:48.540 before the midterms

00:31:50.500 and if Donald Trump

00:31:52.440 doesn't see this

00:31:53.140 as a wake-up call

00:31:54.040 I don't know

00:31:54.620 what will

00:31:55.000 because this is about him.

00:31:57.300 InfoWars

00:31:57.720 is not going to be

00:31:58.240 the last.

00:31:58.980 Alan?

00:32:00.640 Yeah, it's hard

00:32:01.720 to know

00:32:02.440 what they're doing

00:32:03.340 really.

00:32:03.820 I know that

00:32:05.280 Brad Parscale

00:32:06.040 it's clear

00:32:06.580 from his statements

00:32:07.120 that he understands

00:32:08.000 the threat of big tech

00:32:08.960 why they're not commenting

00:32:10.560 more on InfoWars

00:32:11.620 Donald Trump Jr.

00:32:12.860 did comment on InfoWars

00:32:13.960 recently

00:32:14.780 he said he was worried

00:32:16.280 that you know

00:32:16.760 Breitbart and the data

00:32:18.000 caller would be next

00:32:18.860 so there's some talk there

00:32:21.320 and Pascal made

00:32:22.460 I think one or two comments

00:32:23.820 but nothing from

00:32:25.340 Donald Trump yet

00:32:26.500 although he did call out

00:32:27.580 Twitter last week

00:32:29.000 when they were

00:32:29.400 shadow banning Republicans

00:32:30.440 so there seems to be

00:32:32.400 some growing awareness

00:32:33.780 but they're not talking

00:32:36.440 about it as much

00:32:37.040 as they should really

00:32:37.940 though

00:32:38.360 when you consider

00:32:39.700 the fact that

00:32:40.300 you know big tech

00:32:41.000 is compared to say

00:32:42.080 CNN

00:32:42.500 presents a far greater

00:32:43.720 threat in terms of

00:32:44.400 the damage they can do

00:32:45.220 to the Trump movement

00:32:47.160 electorally

00:32:47.860 so it's hard to know

00:32:50.360 what they're up to really

00:32:51.260 maybe there's a strategic

00:32:53.700 play here

00:32:54.720 I mean maybe they're seeing

00:32:55.700 what's going to happen

00:32:56.420 in the midterms

00:32:57.360 if the Republicans

00:32:58.560 lose the House

00:32:59.200 and they can blame it

00:32:59.760 on social media

00:33:00.380 much like the Democrats

00:33:01.640 blame 2016

00:33:02.660 on social media

00:33:03.480 so you know

00:33:04.860 that might be

00:33:05.600 a political strategy

00:33:06.420 they're going for

00:33:07.080 so it's hard to know

00:33:09.860 what they're up to

00:33:10.280 I think Brad Pascal

00:33:11.060 understands the threat

00:33:11.960 I think Donald

00:33:12.500 President Trump

00:33:13.680 is starting to

00:33:14.340 understand the threat

00:33:15.100 but he's a very

00:33:16.000 sort of old media

00:33:16.900 broadcast media guy

00:33:18.200 so maybe he's having

00:33:19.620 so he maybe needs

00:33:20.580 some time

00:33:20.900 to get his head around it

00:33:21.940 but certainly

00:33:24.100 at this point

00:33:25.300 they're the

00:33:25.960 Donald Trump

00:33:27.100 is really the only person

00:33:28.160 who can do something

00:33:28.780 about this

00:33:29.180 because the Republicans

00:33:30.080 on the Hill

00:33:30.600 are still part of

00:33:31.500 this dogma

00:33:32.100 that says you can't

00:33:32.800 regulate private companies

00:33:33.980 even if they're

00:33:34.860 Russian expression

00:33:36.000 Silicon Valley

00:33:36.900 has some of the most

00:33:38.740 lobbyists of any

00:33:39.700 industry out there

00:33:40.420 I think Facebook

00:33:41.020 and Google

00:33:41.480 the number of

00:33:42.040 lobbyists between

00:33:42.640 them is staggering

00:33:43.300 plus their political

00:33:44.300 donations

00:33:44.760 just before I hopped

00:33:46.040 on this interview

00:33:46.640 with you

00:33:47.660 I checked the ACLU

00:33:50.240 the American Civil

00:33:51.160 Liberties Union

00:33:51.860 that really used to

00:33:52.940 emphasize freedom

00:33:53.700 of speech

00:33:54.060 and I checked a group

00:33:55.100 called Reporters

00:33:56.200 Without Borders

00:33:57.020 also called

00:33:58.240 Reporters Sons

00:33:59.080 Frontier

00:34:00.000 and I went through

00:34:01.940 everything they've said

00:34:03.320 over the last

00:34:04.080 24 hours

00:34:05.100 neither of them

00:34:06.120 has a word

00:34:06.960 about this

00:34:07.860 Reporters Without Borders

00:34:10.360 has several pieces

00:34:11.780 commiserating with

00:34:12.660 Jim Acosta

00:34:13.320 of CNN

00:34:14.260 because he was

00:34:15.480 heckled

00:34:16.100 and supporting

00:34:17.420 Sarah Jiang

00:34:18.360 the racist

00:34:19.900 who was hired

00:34:20.660 at the New York Times

00:34:21.420 and defending her

00:34:22.420 against the Twitter mob

00:34:24.500 but not a word

00:34:26.140 for Alex Jones

00:34:27.900 and Infowars

00:34:28.520 who was actually

00:34:29.120 shut down by them

00:34:30.000 I think it's

00:34:31.740 it's extremely sad

00:34:33.460 that the people

00:34:35.280 we have relied on

00:34:36.600 as guardians

00:34:37.160 for free speech

00:34:37.940 they never really

00:34:38.840 meant it

00:34:39.400 it was just a tool

00:34:40.480 for their side

00:34:41.220 they don't care

00:34:41.840 about conservatives

00:34:42.620 last word to you

00:34:43.480 Alan

00:34:43.720 yeah and I would

00:34:46.860 also say

00:34:47.420 some of Never Trump

00:34:48.400 as well

00:34:48.780 some of the

00:34:49.180 establishment

00:34:49.580 conservatives

00:34:50.180 we're seeing them

00:34:51.200 cheering on

00:34:52.000 the censorship

00:34:52.740 of Infowars

00:34:53.340 whereas last week

00:34:54.120 they were defending

00:34:54.720 James Gunn

00:34:55.520 and Sarah Geong

00:34:57.200 and saying they

00:34:57.700 shouldn't be fired

00:34:58.280 so apparently

00:34:58.840 corporate censorship

00:35:00.200 is great

00:35:02.660 when it targets

00:35:04.100 Alex Jones

00:35:04.540 but not so great

00:35:05.180 when it targets

00:35:05.620 progressives

00:35:06.140 it's a very

00:35:06.580 strange position

00:35:08.380 for so-called

00:35:09.420 conservatives

00:35:09.900 to be taking

00:35:10.480 yeah

00:35:11.100 very frustrating times

00:35:12.620 I'm so glad

00:35:13.200 you guys are fighting hard

00:35:14.440 I mean don't count

00:35:15.760 Alex Jones out

00:35:16.620 but the thing is

00:35:17.480 it doesn't matter

00:35:18.140 how hard he fights

00:35:19.220 if one by one

00:35:21.100 the lights are turned out

00:35:22.200 from him

00:35:22.600 and they pull the plug

00:35:23.380 on him

00:35:23.720 you just can't fight

00:35:25.400 if you're not plugged in

00:35:26.820 that's the reality

00:35:27.460 of 2018

00:35:28.220 thanks for spending

00:35:29.180 so much time

00:35:29.720 with us today Alan

00:35:30.420 all right

00:35:32.880 there you have it

00:35:33.480 Alan Bokari

00:35:34.220 a good friend

00:35:35.160 of the Rebel

00:35:35.500 he's the senior

00:35:36.180 technology correspondent

00:35:37.320 at Breitbart News

00:35:38.520 and I encourage you

00:35:39.720 to go to the website

00:35:40.680 Breitbart.com

00:35:41.780 and read all of his work

00:35:43.340 almost every single day

00:35:44.780 Alan breaks more news

00:35:47.380 about this growing

00:35:48.540 cyclone

00:35:49.600 of censorship

00:35:51.120 coming from

00:35:52.420 social media companies

00:35:53.660 stay with us

00:35:54.400 more ahead on the Rebel

00:35:55.560 welcome back

00:36:07.680 it's been a couple weeks

00:36:08.780 now since the mass

00:36:10.060 shooting in Toronto's

00:36:11.740 Greek town

00:36:12.340 a street called

00:36:13.200 the Danforth

00:36:14.160 that left more than

00:36:15.540 a dozen wounded

00:36:16.440 and a 10 year old girl

00:36:17.740 and an 18 year old woman

00:36:19.300 dead

00:36:20.400 the murderer

00:36:22.000 Faisal Hussain

00:36:23.700 we don't know much

00:36:25.640 about him

00:36:26.400 but we do know

00:36:27.660 that the Islamic State 0.80

00:36:29.280 took credit for it

00:36:30.860 and various police sources

00:36:32.620 say he was known to them

00:36:34.520 and had even made trips

00:36:35.920 to Afghanistan

00:36:36.640 and Pakistan

00:36:37.940 well that narrative

00:36:39.660 was shut down

00:36:40.580 pretty quickly

00:36:41.320 by the official people

00:36:43.260 who preferred

00:36:44.260 their own narrative

00:36:45.040 the problem wasn't

00:36:46.280 Faisal Hussain

00:36:47.620 or his criminal family

00:36:49.660 including his

00:36:50.400 drug dealing brother

00:36:51.660 who was arrested

00:36:52.320 with so many firearms

00:36:53.760 no no no no

00:36:54.420 the problem was

00:36:55.480 the inanimate object

00:36:56.640 that Faisal Hussain used

00:36:57.900 the gun itself

00:36:59.040 let's stop talking

00:37:00.100 about those uncomfortable things

00:37:01.400 and get back to the

00:37:02.700 tried and true

00:37:03.540 gun control

00:37:05.000 and so it is

00:37:05.760 that Toronto Mayor

00:37:06.460 John Tory

00:37:07.060 has written a four page letter

00:37:08.360 to his friend

00:37:09.400 Justin Trudeau

00:37:10.200 asking for more

00:37:11.620 gun laws

00:37:12.940 for Toronto

00:37:13.940 and joining us now

00:37:15.480 to talk about this letter

00:37:16.480 and what it means

00:37:17.080 is our friend

00:37:17.660 Andrew Lawton

00:37:18.420 who we're thrilled

00:37:19.100 to have back with us

00:37:20.020 he's now a fellow

00:37:21.280 with the True North Initiative

00:37:23.200 and he's a columnist

00:37:24.720 with Looney Politics

00:37:26.100 great to see you Andrew

00:37:27.320 nice to have you back

00:37:28.420 yeah it's been a while

00:37:29.600 thanks for the invite Ezra

00:37:30.600 well it's a pleasure

00:37:31.380 you know

00:37:31.880 the idea of

00:37:34.560 banning guns

00:37:35.960 they're already banned

00:37:38.320 in a number of ways

00:37:40.060 for example

00:37:41.040 you can't just get

00:37:42.400 a handgun

00:37:43.340 like the type used

00:37:45.220 by the Danforth murderer

00:37:47.080 that is a restricted weapon

00:37:48.640 and even if you can get one

00:37:50.460 it's against law

00:37:52.140 to kill someone

00:37:52.980 so Andrew

00:37:54.340 is it not the case

00:37:55.540 that John Tory

00:37:56.380 is really just asking

00:37:57.460 Justin Trudeau

00:37:58.280 to double ban

00:38:00.060 the gun

00:38:00.740 to triple ban them

00:38:01.880 and if there's more

00:38:02.520 murderers

00:38:02.960 we'll quadruple ban them

00:38:04.080 I mean

00:38:04.340 isn't he just asking

00:38:05.940 for more laws

00:38:06.740 that don't seem

00:38:07.260 to be working

00:38:07.800 yeah

00:38:09.020 and I think that

00:38:09.860 when you look at people

00:38:10.580 like John Tory

00:38:11.560 and a lot of the other

00:38:12.560 gun grabbers

00:38:13.500 we have in office

00:38:14.660 right now

00:38:15.280 they already want

00:38:16.620 the ban

00:38:17.080 they're just looking

00:38:17.740 for any place

00:38:18.540 they can apply it

00:38:19.500 and advocate for it

00:38:20.860 and that comment 0.72

00:38:22.320 that John Tory made

00:38:23.440 where he said

00:38:24.060 you know

00:38:24.320 guns are the problem here 0.86

00:38:25.760 and made that famous line

00:38:27.520 why does anyone need a gun

00:38:28.760 that was about 12 hours

00:38:30.220 after the Danforth

00:38:31.780 after shooting

00:38:32.360 I mean

00:38:32.680 the bodies weren't

00:38:33.360 even cold yet

00:38:34.180 and John Tory

00:38:34.820 was getting up there

00:38:35.600 saying

00:38:35.980 you know

00:38:36.540 we need to have

00:38:37.140 a gun control discussion

00:38:39.000 and then city council

00:38:39.940 in Toronto

00:38:40.460 voted to ban

00:38:42.280 the sale of handguns

00:38:43.340 and ammunition

00:38:43.860 except they don't actually

00:38:44.800 have the authority

00:38:45.580 to do that

00:38:46.240 they can only ask

00:38:47.120 the federal

00:38:47.920 and provincial governments

00:38:49.080 to regulate it

00:38:49.940 but let's say

00:38:51.260 that the city

00:38:51.680 got their way

00:38:52.340 John Tory got his way

00:38:53.560 the one gun store

00:38:55.060 in Toronto

00:38:55.580 there's only one

00:38:56.380 that's the ultimate

00:38:57.120 amusing part of this

00:38:58.540 the one gun store

00:38:59.640 in Toronto

00:39:00.060 gets shut down

00:39:00.900 it wouldn't have

00:39:02.040 changed anything

00:39:03.160 the gun that

00:39:03.840 Faisal Hussain used

00:39:04.860 by several reports

00:39:06.040 was an illegal gun

00:39:07.800 it was illegally owned

00:39:09.000 it was illegally acquired

00:39:10.540 and as you mentioned

00:39:11.640 Ezra

00:39:11.920 it was illegally used

00:39:13.180 so there is no law

00:39:14.880 that would have

00:39:15.540 prevented this tragedy

00:39:16.940 and that's what

00:39:17.780 the gun control advocates

00:39:18.860 always fail to understand

00:39:20.520 that when you're talking

00:39:21.360 about gun crime

00:39:22.560 the vast majority

00:39:23.840 of firearms

00:39:24.500 especially in Toronto

00:39:25.680 which has a gang problem

00:39:26.840 are from illegal sources

00:39:29.200 so they are immune

00:39:30.180 from what gun control does

00:39:31.620 which is simply

00:39:32.600 impact people like me

00:39:33.640 that have gone through

00:39:34.300 the steps to get a gun

00:39:35.300 legally

00:39:35.680 yeah

00:39:36.280 well and that's the thing

00:39:37.460 if you go after guns

00:39:39.580 an inanimate object

00:39:40.760 there is no human gun

00:39:43.100 that would say

00:39:43.560 stop

00:39:43.920 that's not fair

00:39:44.820 whereas if you go

00:39:46.140 after gangs

00:39:48.160 if you go after

00:39:49.280 possible terrorists

00:39:51.280 you have all sorts

00:39:52.340 of groups

00:39:53.360 interest groups

00:39:54.000 that say

00:39:54.340 well stop being racist

00:39:55.600 stop being Islamophobic

00:39:57.140 stop being terroristophobic

00:39:59.460 stop talking about

00:40:00.520 so going after guns

00:40:02.180 is always the safe bet

00:40:03.840 because

00:40:04.760 you know

00:40:05.500 I mean Canada

00:40:06.020 doesn't even have

00:40:06.800 much of a gun lobby

00:40:07.740 at all

00:40:08.000 it's not like the US

00:40:08.840 with the NRA

00:40:09.480 it's just

00:40:10.360 it feels like

00:40:12.080 it's just

00:40:12.560 okay play that

00:40:13.660 old favorite again

00:40:15.080 oh that

00:40:15.860 that golden oldie

00:40:17.360 I mean

00:40:17.620 it's just a safe place

00:40:19.420 for politicians

00:40:19.960 but here's the thing

00:40:20.860 as you point out

00:40:22.640 the guns used by gangs

00:40:23.800 in Toronto

00:40:24.260 and what

00:40:25.220 Toronto I think

00:40:25.780 is ahead of New York

00:40:26.500 now in murders

00:40:27.280 they would not be

00:40:30.120 covered by this ban

00:40:31.140 they would not be

00:40:31.720 stopped by this ban

00:40:32.640 because they're already

00:40:33.340 in violation of this ban

00:40:34.840 does anyone buy this

00:40:36.660 other than the politicians

00:40:37.700 and the media

00:40:38.400 no and just recently

00:40:40.860 actually this weekend

00:40:41.940 they had 63 murders

00:40:43.920 in Chicago

00:40:44.660 63 murders

00:40:45.600 or 63 shootings rather

00:40:46.860 just in the weekend

00:40:48.440 over

00:40:48.920 just in a Friday

00:40:50.340 to Sunday span

00:40:51.420 they had 63 shootings

00:40:52.760 and I forget how many

00:40:53.960 were fatal

00:40:54.460 but I think it was

00:40:55.100 at least a dozen

00:40:55.900 and Chicago is one

00:40:57.340 of the cities

00:40:57.760 that has one of the

00:40:58.620 strictest gun bans

00:40:59.860 in the country

00:41:01.340 it has an effective

00:41:02.820 ban on handguns

00:41:04.120 although the gang

00:41:04.700 criminals haven't

00:41:05.380 gotten that memo

00:41:06.160 and in Chicago

00:41:07.560 you see what would

00:41:08.380 happen in Toronto

00:41:09.120 if John Tory

00:41:09.840 got his way

00:41:10.480 which is that people

00:41:11.220 will get their guns

00:41:12.060 from other jurisdictions

00:41:13.360 and move them in

00:41:14.320 so even if we were

00:41:15.780 to accept that

00:41:16.740 disarming Canada

00:41:18.140 was a good thing

00:41:19.020 and I don't think

00:41:19.720 that's the case

00:41:20.200 but let's even say

00:41:21.000 for a moment it was

00:41:21.820 it's impossible

00:41:22.840 to have any effect

00:41:23.740 of gun control

00:41:24.580 when border security

00:41:26.340 is effectively

00:41:27.420 non-existent

00:41:28.360 and this is where

00:41:28.900 the gun discussion

00:41:29.760 actually comes full circle

00:41:31.060 to the immigration

00:41:32.900 discussions we have

00:41:33.900 in Canada

00:41:34.380 when you've got

00:41:35.580 the ability to just

00:41:36.440 walk across the border

00:41:37.460 into Canada

00:41:38.140 you can't stop

00:41:39.500 the flow of illegal guns

00:41:41.080 and even Australia

00:41:42.380 which has a massive

00:41:43.940 gun ban

00:41:44.620 that's been on the books

00:41:45.740 for about 20 years

00:41:46.660 has thousands upon

00:41:48.040 thousands of guns

00:41:48.860 that are shipped in

00:41:49.640 illegally from the US

00:41:50.640 and the point I made

00:41:51.800 in a column I wrote

00:41:52.800 on the subject

00:41:53.340 was that if a country

00:41:54.320 9,000 miles away

00:41:56.020 from the US

00:41:56.620 that's literally an island

00:41:57.920 can't stop illegal

00:41:59.300 American guns

00:42:00.120 certainly Canada

00:42:01.040 with its significantly

00:42:02.440 unprotected border

00:42:03.520 between us and the US 0.76

00:42:04.960 is not going to

00:42:05.820 fare any better

00:42:06.560 so gun control

00:42:07.640 is a low-hanging fruit

00:42:08.640 for politicians

00:42:09.380 and it really is

00:42:10.260 a distraction issue

00:42:11.240 yeah

00:42:11.700 last question for you

00:42:12.900 you know

00:42:13.600 there are lawful firearms

00:42:16.980 in Canada

00:42:17.560 it is very hard

00:42:18.420 to get a handgun permit

00:42:19.700 you have to get

00:42:21.040 a specialist

00:42:21.660 we won't talk about that

00:42:22.640 but the gun

00:42:23.080 that's more often

00:42:24.100 owned and used

00:42:26.020 lawfully in Canada

00:42:27.380 are rifles and shotguns

00:42:29.060 they're used for sport

00:42:30.140 they're used for hunting

00:42:31.060 and in some rural parts

00:42:33.300 where the police

00:42:34.100 are half an hour

00:42:35.320 or 45 minutes away

00:42:36.420 there's you know

00:42:36.840 one RCMP detachment

00:42:38.220 a few towns over

00:42:40.100 it can actually be used

00:42:41.540 for safety and security

00:42:43.420 as well

00:42:43.920 those lawful

00:42:46.420 often rural

00:42:48.100 owners of long arms

00:42:50.020 that's what they would

00:42:50.620 call the long gun

00:42:52.320 you know

00:42:52.580 rifle or shotgun

00:42:53.380 they are demonized

00:42:55.720 by the gun control

00:42:56.780 folks in the city

00:42:57.600 although

00:42:57.960 it's almost never

00:43:00.300 that an urban criminal

00:43:02.080 would commit a crime

00:43:03.320 with a big old

00:43:04.060 long rifle or shotgun

00:43:05.560 I mean

00:43:05.840 you can't

00:43:07.100 you can't sneak it around

00:43:08.660 in your car

00:43:09.180 you can't keep it

00:43:10.280 in your shirt

00:43:11.680 before shooting

00:43:12.520 someone on the street

00:43:13.360 the idea

00:43:14.340 that going after

00:43:15.320 rural farmers

00:43:16.700 and duck hunters

00:43:17.620 and punishing them

00:43:19.640 will somehow

00:43:20.640 relieve the urban

00:43:21.880 crime problem

00:43:22.600 I think that's

00:43:23.600 another bit of

00:43:24.460 misdirection

00:43:25.300 and sleight of hand

00:43:26.480 which brings me

00:43:27.860 to my last question

00:43:28.760 do you think

00:43:29.440 Justin Trudeau

00:43:30.220 will go for it

00:43:31.060 do you think

00:43:31.740 he just enjoys

00:43:32.820 having rural

00:43:34.620 duck hunters

00:43:35.300 and farmers

00:43:35.780 who are often

00:43:36.560 you know

00:43:37.520 middle aged

00:43:38.120 white men

00:43:38.940 squawking about guns

00:43:40.400 do you think

00:43:40.800 Justin Trudeau

00:43:41.380 just loves

00:43:42.300 that political

00:43:43.340 opponent

00:43:43.840 a lot more

00:43:44.760 than he would say

00:43:46.320 love dealing

00:43:47.160 with the possibility

00:43:48.460 of urban gangs

00:43:50.420 or Muslim terrorism

00:43:51.420 well it's an

00:43:52.820 interesting point

00:43:53.480 you raise

00:43:53.940 because gun ownership

00:43:55.100 in rural parts

00:43:56.200 of the country

00:43:56.760 is significantly

00:43:57.880 higher than it

00:43:58.700 is in urban

00:43:59.240 centers

00:43:59.680 but gun crime

00:44:00.860 is higher in

00:44:01.440 urban centers

00:44:02.080 than it is

00:44:02.560 in rural areas

00:44:03.560 so right there

00:44:04.680 between urban

00:44:05.480 and rural

00:44:05.900 you see a divide

00:44:06.840 in usage

00:44:08.080 versus

00:44:08.640 or usage

00:44:09.300 in crime

00:44:09.780 versus ownership

00:44:10.560 the stats

00:44:11.180 show there's

00:44:11.980 no correlation

00:44:12.760 as far as

00:44:13.780 what Trudeau

00:44:14.500 will do

00:44:15.020 my fear

00:44:15.960 is that we're

00:44:16.700 headed towards

00:44:17.680 a handgun

00:44:19.060 ban

00:44:19.360 or a restricted

00:44:20.240 gun ban

00:44:20.980 and I think

00:44:22.380 that there would

00:44:22.940 be too much

00:44:23.440 backlash

00:44:23.840 even from a lot

00:44:24.860 of liberal

00:44:25.300 and NDP

00:44:25.720 supporters

00:44:26.260 in the rural

00:44:27.040 parts of the

00:44:27.520 country

00:44:27.780 to say

00:44:28.220 we're going

00:44:28.960 to further

00:44:29.420 restrict rifles

00:44:30.460 and shotguns

00:44:31.520 but I think

00:44:31.960 there is going

00:44:32.540 to be for the

00:44:33.160 liberals

00:44:33.480 a belief system

00:44:34.900 that they could

00:44:35.620 use their

00:44:36.280 political capital

00:44:37.080 to ban

00:44:37.520 handguns

00:44:38.180 to ban

00:44:38.500 AR-15s 0.99

00:44:39.280 to ban

00:44:39.660 other restricted

00:44:40.640 guns

00:44:41.020 because it's

00:44:41.540 that old trope

00:44:42.220 that John

00:44:42.640 Tory espoused

00:44:43.440 that no one

00:44:44.460 needs them

00:44:45.560 that's the

00:44:46.180 belief system

00:44:47.100 but the problem

00:44:48.260 is they have

00:44:49.440 the right to

00:44:50.040 reclassify guns

00:44:51.320 at their whim

00:44:52.500 as restricted

00:44:53.300 or non-restricted

00:44:54.220 so even if

00:44:54.700 they say today

00:44:55.280 we're going

00:44:55.680 to get rid

00:44:56.140 of restricted

00:44:56.780 guns in Canada

00:44:57.700 well tomorrow

00:44:58.500 they're going

00:44:58.800 to be reclassifying

00:44:59.880 a lot of

00:45:00.320 non-restricteds

00:45:01.120 as restricted

00:45:01.780 and we will

00:45:02.620 have this slow

00:45:03.420 tide towards

00:45:04.580 disarmament

00:45:05.400 and when you're

00:45:06.040 talking about

00:45:06.540 something that

00:45:06.960 is as regulated

00:45:08.100 as it is in

00:45:08.880 Canada

00:45:09.220 gun control

00:45:10.340 isn't necessary

00:45:11.300 here in any

00:45:12.200 further level

00:45:12.880 yeah

00:45:13.420 well I think

00:45:15.560 it's coming

00:45:16.020 I think Justin

00:45:16.780 Trudeau would

00:45:17.280 love to talk

00:45:18.900 about that

00:45:19.440 as opposed to

00:45:20.220 NAFTA

00:45:20.760 or possible

00:45:21.780 terrorism

00:45:22.540 or any of

00:45:23.900 or you know

00:45:24.440 slowing economy

00:45:25.740 or failed pipelines

00:45:26.740 I think he would

00:45:27.360 love to talk

00:45:28.920 about that

00:45:29.320 especially now

00:45:29.920 that he's not

00:45:30.400 talking about

00:45:30.940 global warming

00:45:31.660 so much

00:45:32.140 Andrew Lawton

00:45:32.860 great to see you

00:45:33.500 hope to have

00:45:33.840 you back again

00:45:34.460 soon

00:45:34.860 likewise

00:45:35.660 thanks Ezra

00:45:36.280 all right

00:45:36.800 there's our

00:45:37.180 friend Andrew

00:45:37.680 Lawton

00:45:37.940 he is now

00:45:38.500 a fellow

00:45:38.980 with the

00:45:40.140 True North

00:45:40.700 initiative

00:45:41.180 which he does

00:45:42.460 with our

00:45:42.780 friend Candace

00:45:43.340 Malcolm

00:45:43.620 by the way

00:45:44.240 and he's a

00:45:45.640 columnist

00:45:46.160 for Looney

00:45:47.080 Politics

00:45:47.460 stay with us

00:45:48.680 more ahead

00:45:49.500 on The Rebel

00:45:49.900 Hey welcome

00:46:02.440 back

00:46:03.020 your letters

00:46:03.880 to me

00:46:04.300 on my monologue

00:46:05.140 yesterday

00:46:05.580 by the New York

00:46:06.060 Times hiring

00:46:06.940 Sarah Jung

00:46:07.780 despite her

00:46:08.700 public record

00:46:09.280 of racism

00:46:09.720 Harley writes

00:46:10.500 my family

00:46:11.600 fought alongside

00:46:12.160 the Korean

00:46:12.620 people

00:46:12.980 it was called

00:46:13.700 the forgotten

00:46:14.160 war

00:46:14.500 it was not

00:46:15.360 forgotten

00:46:15.640 by the Korean

00:46:16.200 people

00:46:16.560 this woman

00:46:17.360 is just a

00:46:17.800 taker

00:46:18.120 and has no

00:46:18.840 respect for

00:46:19.340 our war

00:46:19.800 dead

00:46:20.040 yeah

00:46:21.740 and I

00:46:22.560 thought

00:46:22.760 Joel Pollack

00:46:23.200 made a

00:46:23.480 really interesting

00:46:24.060 observation

00:46:24.580 she seems

00:46:25.160 to be living

00:46:25.880 a great

00:46:26.620 American life

00:46:27.560 while despising

00:46:29.520 and disparaging

00:46:30.360 it

00:46:30.660 Joel Pollack's

00:46:31.620 theory

00:46:32.260 and it's

00:46:32.880 maybe it's

00:46:33.360 a little bit

00:46:33.720 out there

00:46:34.080 he says

00:46:34.500 she actually

00:46:35.200 doesn't believe

00:46:35.740 those things

00:46:36.200 that's just

00:46:36.560 what you need

00:46:36.900 to say

00:46:37.180 and do

00:46:37.380 to get ahead

00:46:37.960 I mean

00:46:38.540 if she

00:46:39.140 believed them

00:46:39.660 why would

00:46:40.120 she move 0.98

00:46:40.580 from Korea

00:46:41.160 to America

00:46:41.700 why would

00:46:42.200 she live

00:46:43.280 in such

00:46:43.900 an American

00:46:44.280 city

00:46:44.620 as New York

00:46:45.220 why would

00:46:45.640 she do

00:46:47.200 those things

00:46:47.900 I don't know

00:46:48.360 that's the

00:46:48.740 left for you

00:46:49.280 Liza writes

00:46:50.960 anyone who

00:46:52.000 could say

00:46:52.420 this in public

00:46:53.000 or private

00:46:53.440 for that matter

00:46:53.940 has some

00:46:54.280 serious problems

00:46:55.000 she may be

00:46:55.720 bright

00:46:56.020 but she's 0.97

00:46:56.800 disgusting

00:46:57.260 and as a

00:46:58.200 journalist

00:46:58.420 with a

00:46:58.680 considerable

00:46:59.040 following

00:46:59.500 she's a

00:47:00.220 big part

00:47:00.560 of the

00:47:00.720 problem

00:47:01.120 I put

00:47:03.020 I put

00:47:03.040 I put it

00:47:03.160 to you

00:47:03.560 that

00:47:04.060 a lot

00:47:05.480 of

00:47:05.600 journalists

00:47:06.020 despise

00:47:06.760 the public

00:47:07.380 some

00:47:08.180 of it

00:47:08.440 is

00:47:08.580 vanity

00:47:08.960 and

00:47:09.160 narcissism

00:47:09.700 they have

00:47:09.960 to feel

00:47:10.240 morally

00:47:10.540 superior

00:47:11.040 I think

00:47:12.620 they're also

00:47:13.500 ideological warriors

00:47:14.500 who embed

00:47:15.260 themselves within

00:47:16.040 journalism

00:47:16.580 hey

00:47:18.180 that's why

00:47:19.020 I'm in

00:47:19.320 journalism

00:47:19.620 I'm not

00:47:19.980 here for

00:47:21.340 the craft

00:47:21.900 I'm here

00:47:22.640 to spread

00:47:23.540 my ideas

00:47:24.460 I'm candid

00:47:25.860 about it

00:47:26.240 I'm here to

00:47:26.600 change the

00:47:27.100 world

00:47:27.360 if I can

00:47:28.460 I think

00:47:29.300 a lot of

00:47:29.720 journalists

00:47:30.000 are that

00:47:30.300 way

00:47:30.440 but they

00:47:30.700 just pretend

00:47:31.200 to be

00:47:31.620 neutral

00:47:32.220 writers

00:47:32.600 they're not

00:47:33.780 Bruce writes

00:47:35.760 actions truly

00:47:37.240 speak louder

00:47:37.660 than words

00:47:38.020 Sarah Jiang's

00:47:38.880 Twitter posts

00:47:39.380 show that she

00:47:40.060 has a warped

00:47:40.540 view of

00:47:41.180 white men

00:47:41.860 well yeah

00:47:43.080 I don't know

00:47:43.380 if you saw

00:47:44.000 but Candace

00:47:44.600 Owens

00:47:45.180 she's a

00:47:46.460 black

00:47:46.820 conservative

00:47:47.280 she did

00:47:47.900 sort of

00:47:48.200 an experiment

00:47:48.640 she swapped

00:47:49.520 out the word

00:47:50.280 white for

00:47:51.040 black

00:47:51.420 and I think

00:47:51.820 she swapped

00:47:52.280 in Jewish

00:47:52.920 and she saw

00:47:54.160 how quickly

00:47:54.920 Twitter would

00:47:56.080 take that

00:47:56.460 down

00:47:56.680 and the answer

00:47:57.120 was right

00:47:57.640 away

00:47:58.040 she was

00:47:58.640 not just

00:47:59.480 those tweets

00:47:59.940 were blocked

00:48:00.420 but she was 0.91

00:48:00.980 suspended

00:48:01.540 it was a

00:48:02.620 scientific

00:48:03.280 experiment

00:48:03.820 the control

00:48:04.820 was Sarah

00:48:05.560 Jiang's 1.00

00:48:05.980 tweets

00:48:06.280 and Candace

00:48:07.640 Owens

00:48:07.880 swapped in

00:48:08.440 other races

00:48:09.160 ethnicities

00:48:10.380 and she was

00:48:11.380 shut down

00:48:11.860 immediately

00:48:12.320 that shows

00:48:12.880 that it's

00:48:13.160 not just

00:48:13.660 Sarah Jiang

00:48:15.180 who's racist

00:48:16.440 Twitter is

00:48:17.960 too

00:48:18.340 no surprise

00:48:20.360 well that's

00:48:21.440 our show

00:48:21.720 for today

00:48:22.260 until tomorrow

00:48:23.420 at least

00:48:24.440 unless we're

00:48:25.380 kicked off

00:48:25.980 the internet

00:48:26.440 on behalf

00:48:27.480 of all of

00:48:27.860 us here

00:48:28.140 at Rebel

00:48:28.420 World

00:48:28.640 Headquarters

00:48:29.080 good night

00:48:29.500 and keep

00:48:30.560 fighting for

00:48:31.040 freedom

00:48:31.340 you

Rebel News Podcast - August 08, 2018

Three months before U.S. midterms, Infowars purged from the internet. Who will be next？

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