Rebel News Podcast - Tommy Robinson is running for European Parliament — Here's why he could win

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. I've got some news for you today. A rebel alumnus named Tommy Robinson

00:00:04.860 is running for public office. He is seeking election as a member of the European Parliament

00:00:10.460 to represent Northwest England in Brussels in the EU. Now, this wasn't supposed to happen

00:00:15.880 because Brexit, they were supposed to leave, but Brexit didn't happen. So Tommy wants to go in and

00:00:19.660 bash up the place. I fully support it. And listen to my monologue and you'll hear how I think he

00:00:25.060 can actually do it given the interesting lay of the land and vote counting system. Hey folks,

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00:01:04.480 You're listening to A Rebel Media Podcast. Tonight, our friend Tommy Robinson runs for the European

00:01:10.780 Parliament. And here's why I think he's got a chance to win. It's April 25th, and this is The Ezra Levant Show.

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00:01:38.220 Tommy Robinson announced his candidacy for public office today. He's running in northwest England.

00:01:44.440 That's Manchester and the surrounding areas. He's running to be that region's member of the European

00:01:50.360 Parliament. He's running as an independent. But because of the unusual voting system there,

00:01:56.840 I think he's got a real chance to win. I'm pretty sure you know Tommy. He used to work for us here

00:02:01.560 at The Rebel, and I've talked about him dozens of times. He was a journalist for us for a year or so.

00:02:07.220 He really opened my eyes to what's going on in the United Kingdom, especially with regards to mass

00:02:12.240 Muslim migration. And at first, I couldn't believe it when I learned that there are literally 23,000

00:02:18.260 jihadis on police watch lists in that country, 3,000 of whom are tracked around the clock.

00:02:23.320 That's an army of terrorists. And what good does it do just to track them?

00:02:28.320 So when they decide to ram pedestrians with a vehicle, police can watch it on a surveillance camera.

00:02:34.180 You can say, yeah, we knew that guy was a risk. They're just allowed to roam free in the UK.

00:02:40.020 At best, they're just propagandizing for the jihad. I actually bumped into one of these jihadis

00:02:45.760 on the street. Abdul Hakim is his name. He had come to stalk Tommy Robinson at his trial last year. He

00:02:52.600 was out and about just on the street, free as a lark, a jihadi. He was just talking. But sometimes 0.97

00:02:59.260 these jihadis do the jihad, like the time right near parliament where a terrorist rammed a bunch

00:03:05.340 of pedestrians on one of London's famous bridges. This is an Islamic jihad attack. The man that done 1.00

00:03:12.200 this would have either been radicalized in a prison or he would have been radicalized on the streets

00:03:15.960 of the UK with full knowledge of our government and our security services. They will know who he is.

00:03:21.900 Yeah, mate, I have information that shows there was four terrorist attacks last week in France,

00:03:26.020 four in France. There was 12 planned last year. Driving your car like this man has done is exactly

00:03:31.820 what the Inspire magazine, which is Al-Qaeda's magazine, which was downloaded by 50,000 British

00:03:37.260 Muslims last year. 50,000 British Muslims downloaded a terrorist manual in our country. 50,000, not 10,

00:03:43.760 not 20, 50,000 people who want to see exactly what you see there. That's what they want.

00:03:48.840 So that was Tommy. I hadn't actually met him by that point. I had known about him from afar over

00:03:55.560 here in Canada. I'd interviewed him a few times at Sun News Network by satellite or Skype. But I really

00:04:01.460 got to know him once he started doing a lot of videos for us. And not just videos, he did campaigns

00:04:06.360 too, like we do here in Canada. Like when Tommy fought for Chelsea Wright, who was raped by a gang of

00:04:11.640 migrants, but abandoned by police. Or when we helped John Fletcher, you know him, the shopkeeper, who was

00:04:18.660 threatened by police that if he didn't take down a little sign on his shop that said don't fund

00:04:23.660 terrorism. Well, that was actually a real issue in his hometown. Other convenience stores had been raising

00:04:29.680 money for terrorists, not John. But the police actually told him to take that little sign down where they would

00:04:36.340 put him out of business. So Tommy stepped in and helped John and helped John's family fight back.

00:04:41.640 I visited the UK probably half a dozen times with Tommy. I saw that the caricature about Tommy was false.

00:04:48.540 He wasn't a racist. He certainly wasn't an anti-Semite. In fact, everywhere I went, people came up to him

00:04:52.760 asking for a photo. So many minorities too, especially from places where they know what radical Islam can do.

00:04:58.740 I think every single Sikh or Hindu in the United Kingdom is a Tommy Robinson fan. I've seen it with my own eyes. 0.93

00:05:04.600 Once I was riding in a minivan on the highway with Tommy, we're going up north, and a car pulled up beside us,

00:05:09.600 and the Sikh family in the car recognized Tommy. We're driving 100 kilometers an hour. And they

00:05:14.160 started waving at him and taking pictures car to car on the highway. So I saw the love people had for

00:05:20.400 him, mainly the poor, the working classes, the forgotten people, working class white folks,

00:05:26.320 indigenous Brits. In other words, the UK's deplorables. I learned just the other day that 1.00

00:05:32.560 only 4% of the MPs in the United Kingdom are from so-called working class background. It really is the 0.99

00:05:38.980 same as the US Congress. All just rich lawyers and activists, the kind of people who regard

00:05:43.440 the United Kingdom as small and embarrassing and love Europe as exotic and cosmopolitan. So they

00:05:49.580 love the European Union, their own little mini United Nations. But the EU actually passes binding

00:05:55.720 laws that rule in the UK. So that fancy class, the TOFs as they're called, they love mass migration 0.97

00:06:03.080 because it drives down wages and drives up rents, and they're all landlords. They don't care about

00:06:08.040 the rape gangs. It's not going after their girls. You know, these rape gangs in the UK have literally

00:06:12.440 raped tens of thousands, probably more than 100,000 working class British girls over the years. 0.81

00:06:17.720 And the police have covered it up out of fear of being called racist. 0.96

00:06:20.220 Because more than 80% of the perpetrators are Pakistani Muslim men. That's really what's

00:06:27.980 motivated Tommy these past years, the rape of these young girls by Muslim men who regard infidel 1.00

00:06:31.940 women. And by women, I mean children as young as nine years old, regard them as rapable. I'm sorry 0.99

00:06:37.540 to speak so bluntly, but that's what it's been about. That's what Tommy was reporting about outside the

00:06:43.620 courthouse that day in Leeds. A rape gang of more than two dozen men had raped girls as young as 11 years

00:06:49.440 old, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of times. Tommy simply named the accused men on a video,

00:06:55.840 who were all later convicted, by the way. And naming them, he just read off the BBC government

00:07:00.500 website their names. But he was arrested, as you can see in this video here, packed off to the police

00:07:05.120 station, then sent to court, where he had a trial that took less than 10 minutes long. And he wasn't

00:07:09.940 even allowed to speak. And then he was immediately sent to prison for 13 months, where he was soon put

00:07:14.740 in solitary confinement, and practically starved, by the way. Look at him when he came

00:07:19.400 out, look how thin he was. He had PTSD. He was in a box 23 and a half hours a day. He was in solitary.

00:07:27.460 As you know, we crowdfunded Tommy's legal appeal. And we busted him out of there after 10 weeks.

00:07:32.540 The Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales himself called Tommy's arrest, his prosecution,

00:07:38.060 his conviction and sentencing, called it all improper and illegal. And the reason I tell you all these

00:07:43.720 stories together, about the police just watching the 23,000 jihadis who roam the streets, about the

00:07:49.440 police cracking down on a shopkeeper who says don't fund terrorism, about police who ignore young

00:07:54.740 girls being raped, or in the case of Chelsea, ignore a woman being raped. The reason I tell you about how 0.86

00:08:00.100 they cracked down on Tommy, arresting him for me really reporting the facts about these things,

00:08:04.340 the reason I tell you all these things, is to show you what the system itself is like there now.

00:08:10.760 All the 5P professionals, as Daniel Pipes calls them, the police, the prosecutors, the press,

00:08:16.900 the politicians, the professors, they're all in on it. The entire establishment. London, the great city,

00:08:23.760 is in the middle of a massive crime wave. Knife attacks and acid attacks. That's a thing over there.

00:08:30.340 But their Muslim mayor, Sadiq Khan, who used to be a lawyer for terrorists himself, if you can believe

00:08:36.640 it, that mayor has different priorities than acid attacks or knives. He has banned ads on the London

00:08:43.760 subway station that aren't Sharia compliant, that no bikinis allowed. That's far more important for him 1.00

00:08:51.120 to crack down on. Oh, and he's put 900 real police on the hate speech beat. Policing Facebook and Twitter

00:08:59.000 crimes hurt feelings crimes. 900. So yeah, do you see the problem here? Brits were having enough of

00:09:06.980 this. And so in 2016, before the Trump wave hit America, the Brits voted for Brexit to exit the

00:09:15.040 European Union. It was really a vote against the gravy train for the fancy people, those elites.

00:09:20.280 Really a vote to get back to Britain as its own country, not as a colony of Europeans. Britain with 0.86

00:09:25.980 its own borders, not open borders, like Angela Merkel was doing to Europe at that time. And just a slap back 0.95

00:09:31.660 at all the fancy people, all the five Ps, who universally supported remaining in the EU, which of course

00:09:37.580 included much of the Conservative Party over there, which only called the Brexit referendum to quiet the leave

00:09:43.580 rump in their party. They thought Remain would win the referendum. So they really never meant to carry through

00:09:48.620 with it. I mean, everyone knew. Everyone knew that Remain would win. Everyone they knew was going to vote

00:09:54.300 to Remain. But the little people on election day have the same number of votes as the big people. They each

00:09:59.600 have won. And so on that day, it was the largest vote in UK history. 17.4 million Brits voted to leave,

00:10:07.800 and each deplorable had the same vote as the editor of the Sunday Times. And against all the good advice

00:10:14.080 from their superiors against all the bizarre threats made by everyone from bank CEOs to airline CEOs to

00:10:20.240 health officials of all the calamities that would befall the UK if it removed itself from control

00:10:25.680 by the EU, as if the UK was nothing for millennia beforehand, as if the UK was only found and saved by

00:10:32.600 France and Germany these last decades. The Remain campaign actually nicknamed the Strategy Project

00:10:38.600 Fear, which I think Justin Trudeau has copied here in Canada. But it didn't work. I mean,

00:10:43.840 even the British Sandwich Association warned that there would be no more sandwiches if Brexit were

00:10:52.060 to vote to leave. But certainly there would be serious problems in terms of some of the fresh

00:10:57.700 ingredients we bring in from the European Union and also from overseas, particularly if we have

00:11:03.840 problems in the ports and we can't get ingredients through because they're all fresh and don't have

00:11:10.280 a very long shelf life. And we've got no chance to stockpiling fresh ingredients. So I think the

00:11:15.120 answer from the sandwich industry is going to be that it's going to limit the amount of choice that

00:11:19.880 consumers have if we suddenly crash out of Brexit in the way that it's being talked about.

00:11:24.580 That was real. That wasn't satire. The sandwich man was saying, if you vote to leave the European

00:11:31.560 Union, no more sandwiches for you. He said that, I swear. Yeah, no one bought it. And so no one trusts

00:11:40.140 the establishment anymore. I don't even trust the British Sandwich Association anymore. I never will

00:11:44.640 again. And so for the past thousand days, it's been a thousand days, the establishment has tried to undo

00:11:51.120 the results of that Brexit vote. And can you believe that they did? They just refused to leave

00:11:58.180 on the legal deadline, March 29th of this year. They just, they just literally ignored the referendum

00:12:03.580 results. The largest vote in UK history, 7.4 million people. The Remainers just ignored, betrayed,

00:12:12.500 denied, defied the Democratic result. Imagine if here in Canada, Kathleen Wynne simply refused to step 1.00

00:12:18.060 aside for Doug Ford or in Alberta, if Rachel Notley just refused to step aside for Jason Kenney or some

00:12:23.300 judge somewhere said Donald Trump had to go despite winning the election. That's the level of shocking

00:12:28.820 anti-democratic craziness afoot in the UK right now. And so next month, the UK will still be in the

00:12:35.960 European Union when it's time to elect their little stable of European MPs. Now there are 750 of these

00:12:43.840 MEPs, members of the European Parliament. And 73 out of the 750 come from the UK. So you can see one

00:12:51.640 of the problems here. The UK is outvoted on everything before it even starts. But unlike the

00:12:55.940 United Nations, it's largely symbolic. The EU's laws are actually binding in the UK. You can see one of

00:13:01.620 the problems, can't you? Well, the Brexit referendum was supposed to pull the UK out last month, so there

00:13:07.340 wouldn't be any MEPs. But they're still in. And so next month, the election will go forward for these 73

00:13:15.280 British MEPs. And it's for one of those seats that Tommy Robinson is running. And I think he could win.

00:13:25.480 Now to be candid, I don't think Tommy could win an election as an MP, a member of Parliament. Because

00:13:30.620 like in Canada, and like in the United States, that's a first-past-the-post voting system. For UK

00:13:35.640 MPs, that is, you simply have to get more votes in your district than anyone else. And I'm not sure

00:13:41.560 if Tommy could do that. He has a very strong, passionate base of support. But I don't know if

00:13:45.740 it would reach, you know, 35 or 40 percent needed in any given location. Not when the left would be

00:13:51.220 completely against him with labor, and many on the right would vote conservative or something else

00:13:55.160 like that. And even though Tommy is friends with Gerard Batten, the new leader of the UKIP party,

00:14:00.200 Tommy himself has not been permitted to join that party or to run for it.

00:14:04.280 And neither has Nigel Farage allowed Tommy to join his new party called the Brexit party.

00:14:11.100 Farage just launched that very recently. And it's off to a strong start. Polls show it will likely

00:14:16.780 get the most votes in the upcoming MEP elections. And Farage has come back, I think, genuinely

00:14:23.700 reluctantly. I think he thought his work was done in 2016 when he pushed Brexit through. And then he

00:14:30.040 resigned as leader as UKIP. And he sort of did a victory tour. But now he has to go back in. He

00:14:34.360 doesn't have much time for Gerard Batten, his UKIP successor. And he's been clear he doesn't have

00:14:39.700 any time for Tommy either, actually.

00:14:42.780 A lot of people concerned that UKIP is being dragged in a direction that even you might feel

00:14:48.860 uncomfortable.

00:14:49.420 Even me. When I was leader of UKIP, I forbade...

00:14:51.860 Your party?

00:14:52.860 When I was leader of UKIP, I actually forbade any former members of the EDL or the BMP to even be

00:14:58.660 members of the party. Because I wanted us to talk about real issues like immigration, but without

00:15:02.900 anybody being able to say we were racist and actually meaning anything. And I think UKIP is now

00:15:08.700 tempted, or some people in UKIP are tempted, to let figures like Tommy Robinson into the party.

00:15:14.540 And I think that would be a catastrophic mistake.

00:15:18.020 Now, I can understand why Nigel Farage has wanted to stay as a one-issue guy. Brexit,

00:15:22.600 get the UK out of the EU. I get it. And it has been a successful strategy for him. But there are

00:15:27.680 other issues that do need to be addressed in the world as well. And Tommy addresses them,

00:15:31.140 or at least one of them very well. And they are uncomfortable issues. And they will immediately

00:15:34.740 get you branded far right. That's the phrase in the UK. It says stinging there is being called

00:15:39.560 alt-right is in Canada or the United States. Farage himself is often called far right anyways by the

00:15:45.940 left. But he has avoided associating with people who are concerned about Islam. I think he is worried

00:15:51.720 that will marginalize him just too much. Now, let Nigel be Nigel. I think he has a great fighting

00:15:57.800 spirit. And he's a great British character. I mean, take a look at his recent speech.

00:16:02.020 I did actually, rather stupidly, for a moment, believe that we'd won. But it became clear pretty

00:16:12.380 early on, really, with the so-called negotiation, that our Remainer Parliament, our Remainer Cabinet,

00:16:20.900 and indeed our Remainer Prime Minister were going to do their utmost to delay, dilute, and in many

00:16:28.980 cases, to actually stop and overturn Brexit. I think it's going to do great. But at the end of

00:16:36.740 the day, he's not a working class chav, as they say, from Luton. He doesn't know the world Tommy grew 1.00

00:16:45.660 up in. He doesn't know the Chelsea Rites of Sunderland, the John Fletchers. He's part of the 0.78

00:16:50.500 fancy set. He's a former stockbroker. He's a media star who is outstanding on Brexit. But on other matters,

00:16:56.000 it's pretty much establishment, and he has no time for Tommy. Now, I look forward to Nigel and the

00:17:02.380 Brexit Party. I hope it helps to finally get rid of the worst prime minister in the century, Theresa May. 0.97

00:17:07.800 Oh, my God. May is worse than Neville Chamberlain. I mean, Chamberlain was obviously disastrously wrong

00:17:14.680 in his assessment of Hitler. But other than that, he was a solid man, a leader, a loyal patriot. And I

00:17:20.840 don't know if you know this, but after his disgraceful misjudgment of Hitler, he in fact went

00:17:28.700 on to serve as a member of Winston Churchill's war cabinet. And from what I've read of history,

00:17:35.140 very loyally and effectively very trusted by Churchill. He made one disastrous mistake,

00:17:40.700 an enormous mistake, although I don't know if Britain could stop Hitler in any event. 0.97

00:17:44.540 But the man, I believe, was inherently good, Neville Chamberlain. I cannot say that about this

00:17:50.420 serially incompetent deceiver, Theresa May, this disloyal placeholder. She's destroying the 1.00

00:17:57.380 Conservative Party. And I don't much care. But maybe her party does. And hopefully the coming 0.98

00:18:02.540 MEP elections will be the catalyst to throw her out. I don't know. But back to Tommy.

00:18:08.520 See, you have to understand the mood over there. From what I can tell, it's not just the same mood we

00:18:14.200 saw in Ontario before Doug Ford won, or Alberta before Jason Kenney won, or even America before

00:18:20.480 Donald Trump won. No. This isn't really just the moment when the deplorables rose up. See,

00:18:27.400 that comparison would have worked back in 2016, when Brexit voters won. That was the moment when

00:18:33.560 that comparison fixed. Brexit, Trump, that fits. But I'm trying to convey to you the mood today.

00:18:39.600 1,000 days after Brexit passed, but it has not yet been allowed to happen. So imagine 1,000 days

00:18:47.720 after Donald Trump was elected, but he was not yet allowed to take office. Imagine 1,000 days

00:18:52.780 of weaving and bobbing and deking, 1,000 days of whining and backpedaling by the entire establishment,

00:18:59.960 all the 5P professionals. And then on the day it was supposed to happen, March 29th, it did not

00:19:06.540 happen. It was betrayed. It was undone. I don't want to be dramatic, but it really, you know, the idea

00:19:14.140 was conceived in 2016, but it was aborted on the day it was supposed to be birthed in 2019.

00:19:22.140 Imagine the rage amongst those 17.4 million, and even people of goodwill who voted to remain,

00:19:27.500 but said, all right, fair is fair. We lost the vote. Let's leave. So this is not just discontent.

00:19:33.480 It was discontent back in 2016. But discontent was blocked. Illegally, unconstitutionally,

00:19:41.680 undemocratically for sure. So it's not discontent anymore. It's rage now. It's shock. It's utter

00:19:48.480 disillusionment with the entire political class, the 5P professionals. Would you ever trust them again? 0.81

00:19:54.300 And imagine now voting for a member of the European Parliament. Imagine voting in

00:20:00.080 a European Union vote that wasn't even supposed to happen because you were supposed to be gone by now.

00:20:06.220 Imagine voting to go and be a part of a joke parliament, a joke, but a joke with the power

00:20:11.060 to actually rule the UK that was supposed to now be freeing. What would you do if you were a Brit?

00:20:18.760 I think if I were a Brit, I would want to find a bull and send him into a China shop, I think.

00:20:29.400 Here's a bull in a shop in China. That's not really what you normally mean by a China shop,

00:20:34.960 but I thought this was a pretty good video. This was a bull that was about to be butchered,

00:20:38.800 turned into meat, but he had other plans, didn't he? That's a hell of a video. That's a real video

00:20:42.860 there. Well, who is the bull to send into the European Union's China shop and just bash it up? 0.84

00:20:50.600 Tommy Robinson, I think. Now, he's not a reckless smasher like that bull is. Tommy has a real

00:20:56.460 message. He has a coherent message and an ideology, and he has a track record, and he has a mission.

00:21:01.540 But his style, well, here's a dramatic Tommy moment that I think more than a few Brits might be happy

00:21:07.860 to see him do, metaphorically speaking, to the European Union. This was when Tommy was in Rome.

00:21:13.860 Now, he wasn't working for us then. He was on his own, independent journalism, and he was threatened

00:21:20.320 by a migrant who actually threatened to kill Tommy. Watch this. 0.98

00:21:25.660 Yeah, that's about two seconds. I think Tommy can do that to the EU. I like Nigel Farage, and I think

00:21:38.800 he's going to be great in the European Union. I like Tommy even more, and I think he's going to be

00:21:43.280 like a blowtorch to the political correctness in there. He's going to smack him, metaphorically.

00:21:48.680 But can he really win? Can he win? Well, that's the thing. There are eight members of the European

00:21:57.260 Parliament to be selected from the northwest of England. That's around Manchester.

00:22:04.280 And it is not a first-past-the-post system. It's sort of a mathematical way of counting votes. The

00:22:09.920 top vote-getter wins, gets one MEP, and then that party's votes are divided by two, and then they check,

00:22:17.360 and then the next top vote-getter wins, and then their vote is divided by two for it's the same

00:22:21.340 party is divided by three. I'm not going to take you through the whole system. It's actually quite

00:22:26.080 ingenious, but long story short, let me tell you how the story ends. You can win and become a member

00:22:33.640 of the European Parliament in northwest England with less than 10% of the vote. In the last election,

00:22:40.240 in 2014, 1.75 million people voted in that electoral region, and it took 160,000 votes to

00:22:48.640 win one of the eight seats. In the previous elections in 2009, 1.65 million people voted in

00:22:56.580 northwest England. It took 132,000 votes to win. That's 8%. Can Tommy Robinson get 8% or 9% or 10%

00:23:06.860 of the vote in northwest England? Why, I do believe he can. Now, it will be an uphill battle in some

00:23:15.220 ways. The entire media class is against him. The entire political class is, too. Nigel Farage won't

00:23:20.520 even touch him. The UKIP won't even let him run for them, and the other parties would throw him in

00:23:24.460 prison. Labor and the conservatives would throw him in prison if they could. In fact, the conservatives

00:23:28.600 already did. Police will likely harass him. It wouldn't shock me if he was charged with some trumped-up

00:23:34.680 charge, some stitch-up just to get him off the streets like he was that day in Leeds.

00:23:38.900 Now, we here at the Rebel, we support Tommy. We always have. But, of course, we're foreigners

00:23:42.080 in the UK. I'm a Canadian. So, I can't vote. I can't donate. Now, if you're a Brit watching this,

00:23:48.860 you can do both of those things. And I encourage you to go to Tommy's website,

00:23:52.620 votetommy.co.uk. That's how they do it over there, .co.uk. But there is one thing that we will be

00:23:59.680 doing as a company. We will be reporting on the campaign fairly. And again, it's a little bit

00:24:05.540 odd that a foreign media outlet has to do that. But as I've shown you a dozen times now, the British

00:24:10.280 media are perhaps the worst in the free world and worse than in many authoritarian regimes. So,

00:24:15.320 we'll be covering the campaign. We'll be covering Tommy. We'll be covering Nigel Farage,

00:24:21.660 both from here, but also by sending reporters over there in the days and weeks ahead. In fact,

00:24:29.120 I'm putting together a big roster of other reporters from Canada and the United States

00:24:33.340 and Australia who will join me in the UK in May. I'll keep you posted about that at

00:24:39.820 realreporters.uk. That's actually a way, if you want to help Tommy, but you're not a Brit. If you're

00:24:45.980 a Brit, you can donate and vote for him. But if you're not, obviously, well, you can chip in to help

00:24:50.420 us do our media coverage. Now, that's not a gift to Tommy. It's a gift to us because we'll use your

00:24:56.900 contribution to pay air for an hotel accommodation for our reporters to cover the campaign. And we'll

00:25:02.060 cover it fairly. That's all we do. We'll cover it like we see it. We don't report to Tommy. We

00:25:05.840 support Tommy, but we report to you, the viewer. Anyways, I'm pretty excited about it. Tommy really

00:25:11.100 is a bull in a china shop. It's something both his friends and enemies would probably both agree on.

00:25:16.380 I guess it depends if you're rooting for the bull or if you're rooting for the china shop. Me,

00:25:20.080 I'm rooting for the bull. As Tommy's election motto says, it's time to send the European Union and the

00:25:26.900 entire 5P professional establishment, it's time to send them a message they'll never forget.

00:25:34.480 Stay with us. More Ahead on the Rebel.

00:25:50.080 But will Canadians expect to pay higher fuel prices with the carbon taxes?

00:25:55.040 I think one of the things we've seen across the country is that the incentives that come from

00:26:01.880 better choices, making choices to be cleaner and greener is exactly what we want.

00:26:08.920 That's Justin Trudeau saying, yeah, we want higher prices at the pump. So you make better behavior,

00:26:16.060 better choices. And by better choices, he means stop driving, stop heating your house so much

00:26:23.060 in the winter, stop cooling it in the summer, just stop living an industrial life. Not for him,

00:26:29.480 of course. He, in fact, jetted out to British Columbia twice in the past week to take in some

00:26:36.180 of those gnarly waves at Tofino. I mentioned British Columbia because, of course, that is where the

00:26:42.160 highest gasoline prices in the nation are right now. The lowest gas prices are about $1.60 a liter.

00:26:49.260 And I have seen, here's the Gas Buddy website, the lowest in Vancouver are $1.59.

00:26:57.760 And that's just a handful of them. $1.60, $1.70 is not rare. And if you prefer the fancier grade of

00:27:04.200 gasoline, and I don't know who could possibly afford that, it's as much as $2 a liter.

00:27:10.940 Joining us now via Skype from Victoria, British Columbia's capital, is our friend Aaron Gunn. He's

00:27:16.380 the spokesman for BC Proud, an independent group which takes no money from the government. That's

00:27:23.820 why we can trust you, Aaron. Like us, no one controls your strings, so you can speak the truth.

00:27:30.820 That's exactly right, Ezra. Thanks for having me.

00:27:33.040 Well, it's a pleasure. You guys fight hard. I remember we had a great conversation with you when

00:27:37.100 the statue of Sir John A. Macdonald was taken down, and you were right on the scene. Tell me your

00:27:42.400 thoughts on the gas prices in BC. Are they, in fact, the highest prices on the continent? That's

00:27:49.360 what I've heard.

00:27:50.820 They are, and it's quite frankly, completely out of control. I'm in Victoria here. It's over $1.60 a

00:27:56.960 liter everywhere, and in Vancouver, it's not uncommon. They've been up to around $1.75 a

00:28:05.180 liter, so it's completely insane, and it's, I mean, people are, ironically, they're cutting

00:28:10.780 back, but they, you know, people can't cut back on driving, so they're going to stop going

00:28:14.420 out to restaurants more. They're going to stop going to movies and things like that, so it's

00:28:18.140 really impacting people's daily lives.

00:28:20.180 Yeah, I mean, I suppose there's some driving that's elective, but if you're a school bus,

00:28:26.720 that's not something that you can choose to do or don't do. You know, people who say ride

00:28:31.280 a bike, yeah, easy to say, but not if you have a bunch of kids, as an example, not if

00:28:37.540 you're a truck that's hauling food to the grocery store, so now you've got to pay it, and it's

00:28:42.700 just, but as Trudeau said, he wants people to feel the pain. That's that behavioral,

00:28:50.180 behavioral modification. I think that, what do you think of this theory, Aaron? When

00:28:54.340 people, when people are asked, do you want to do something about global warming on the

00:28:58.800 phone by a pollster? They say, oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely, because it's just some virtue

00:29:03.420 signaling test that you pass just by saying, yeah, but when you're at the gas pump paying

00:29:08.040 a buck 70, I can't imagine there's anyone who says, I really like this, because I know

00:29:15.120 I'm changing the weather. Well, the thing is, is it's hurting families, it's hurting individual

00:29:21.520 British Columbians, and it's doing nothing for climate change under any model that anybody's

00:29:25.820 ever proposed. It's having zero impact. You know, British Columbians are paying through

00:29:30.960 their nose for gas, and China's building however many new coal plants every month, so it makes

00:29:37.820 absolutely no difference under any model whatsoever on global warming, so it's, it just doesn't make

00:29:45.640 any sense, and the one thing I will give Trudeau and the Premier here in British Columbia, John

00:29:50.520 Horgan, credit for is promise kept, promise delivered. Gas prices are higher, and people

00:29:54.540 are feeling the pain. Yeah, you know, I was reading Von Palmer in the, I think it was the Vancouver Sun,

00:30:00.400 and he quotes John Horgan. I suppose this quote was everywhere, and Horgan is not blaming the,

00:30:07.520 they have extra special taxes in Vancouver, don't they? It's like Montreal that way. They've got the

00:30:12.460 B.C. carbon tax, like it is a tax reason that it's so high, but I just got to read you John Horgan's

00:30:18.920 explanation. He, this is, this is the Premier of B.C. who's against pipelines, wants to stop the, all the

00:30:25.920 Alberta pipelines, loves the taxes. Here's what he said. I just got to quote this for our viewers.

00:30:30.400 He said, we don't have enough refined product for the traveling public. We need to talk to the gas

00:30:37.460 companies about why they are not refining more product. Yeah, mate, I don't think that's the

00:30:42.380 problem. It's not like, oh my God, there's, we're running out of gasoline, there's a shortage. It's,

00:30:47.440 it's not, it's not because the refineries are not refining gas. It's taxes. It's taxes, and you know

00:30:56.480 what, I'll, I'll tell you something. The politicians like John Horgan are pointing their fingers,

00:31:00.000 they're feeling the heat, they're pointing their fingers everywhere else, and they should be taking

00:31:03.060 a look in the mirror. There's three big reasons why gas prices in B.C. are so high. I mean,

00:31:07.800 they're high across the country, but to put this in perspective, like between Calgary and Vancouver,

00:31:12.540 the price differential is as much as 50 cents a litre, which is insane. And you know, it's the taxes,

00:31:19.280 the highest taxes in North America. It's the lack of supply that could be, that could be fixed with

00:31:25.260 the Trans Mountain Pipeline expansion, which the Trans Mountain Pipeline can actually carry refined

00:31:30.180 products. And then it's also the collapse of the Canadian dollar over the last, last little while,

00:31:36.260 which is mainly because we can't get our oil to market and has hit our currency so hard. So those

00:31:41.620 are all, those are all self-inflicted wounds by our politicians and normal British Columbians and

00:31:46.860 Canadians are feeling, feeling the pinch from that. Yeah. I mean, Horgan wants it both ways. He wants

00:31:52.420 to stop Alberta oil, but then when Alberta says we might cut it off, he says, oh no, you don't.

00:31:57.200 And then he wants to tax oil, but then he's saying, oh, you guys, the refineries, you're making

00:32:01.960 expenses. He's got to pick a lane. I, one thing I learned from Von Palmer today is that it, apparently

00:32:08.620 there's a new bill in the legislature in B.C. Let me just quote a passage from it. This would ban cars

00:32:16.280 by the year 2040, which will be long after John Horgan's gone. But the key provision is it on or

00:32:23.900 after January 1st to 2040. So that's 19 years away. Sorry, that's 20 years away. A person must not make

00:32:32.180 a consumer sale of a light duty motor vehicle that is not a zero emission vehicle. So no gasoline engines

00:32:40.580 allowed whatsoever. And if you sell, if you commit this crime of selling a car with an engine in it,

00:32:46.900 you could be fined up to half a million dollars and six months in prison. If he thinks that people

00:32:53.220 like paying high, you know, buck 60, buck 70 in gas, I think that that's going to be an appetizer to the

00:33:01.220 provincial rage when these guys try and ban cars altogether. Oh, and of course, the funny thing is,

00:33:07.980 he's complaining that there's not another refinery in B.C. Well, who in their right mind would build

00:33:12.800 a refinery under this government? You can't get anything built, number one. Number two, they're

00:33:17.460 talking about banning cars in less than or around 20 years when you need 30 years to get your money

00:33:23.220 back on a $10 billion refinery investment. So it just doesn't make any sense on so many different

00:33:28.660 levels. And it's just kind of it's a trend of this government to pursue ideological solutions

00:33:35.360 instead of, you know, pursuing common sense results. Well, let me ask you this. We've seen provincial

00:33:41.180 elections across Canada flip to the right. I was I wasn't following Prince Edward Island closely, I

00:33:47.580 admit. But when they went conservative, I thought, well, that's interesting. And we saw, well, I mean, Alberta,

00:33:54.560 Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Ontario, Quebec has sort of a conservative government. New Brunswick is

00:33:58.820 interesting to me. Part of that is just, you know, people want to change. Part of that, I think, might be a

00:34:05.720 reaction to Trudeau. I don't know. How is John Horgan doing in the polls? Because I know the environment

00:34:11.180 movement in B.C. is very strong, very well funded. Are severely normal British Columbians starting to get 0.90

00:34:17.100 sick of it now? Or are they still with them on all this green stuff? Well, I think the gas prices might

00:34:23.420 kind of be the first. He's kind of had a little, as most politicians do, a honeymoon period through

00:34:27.780 the first two years. And I think gas prices is kind of the first kind of little mini crisis that

00:34:34.300 he's facing right now. He does pull a lot higher than the NDP in general and their policies. So he's

00:34:40.820 more of a likable person. But the policies of the NDP are not very popular here. The cost of living in

00:34:49.060 British Columbia is just completely out of control. The inflation is higher than any other province in the

00:34:53.240 country. There's a whole bunch of other things that's contributing to that, like auto insurance

00:34:57.380 and things like that. And I think kind of like Trudeau, where after maybe it was around year two

00:35:03.300 or year three, that everything kind of started to change. And I think that's going to happen

00:35:10.360 with Oregon here once people have a whole summer filling up at over $1.60, $1.70 a liter.

00:35:15.700 Yeah. And, you know, I think Jody Wilson-Raybould, I think B.C., I could be wrong here, sort of see

00:35:21.740 her as the hometown champion. And I, look, I'm not there on the ground like you are. But I think

00:35:27.620 that that hasn't helped Trudeau on the ground in B.C. at all, because she, you know, whatever you

00:35:32.600 think of her ideology, she comes across as a pretty straight shooter. And I think, you know,

00:35:37.340 you add the gas prices and that, that's not looking good for the liberals. Let me ask you one last

00:35:41.260 thing. I mean, I spent some time in Vancouver and on the island. And Vancouver is so close to the U.S.

00:35:47.580 border. But there's actually towns and cities all the way to the border. You've got Surrey,

00:35:52.780 you've got White Rock. That's just, it's, it's so close to the border. And it's a pretty good border

00:35:59.380 crossing. And if you have the Nexus Pass, you just fly right through. And I once went to the little

00:36:04.560 town of Bellingham, Washington, which is closer to the border than Vancouver is to the border. So

00:36:13.180 all these British Columbians from White Rock, South Surrey, they just drive 45 minutes down

00:36:18.080 to Bellingham. They go to the Costco there. They fill up their tank with gas at what, half the

00:36:25.440 price? While they're down there, they get milk and cheese and other things that are not part of the

00:36:30.120 dairy cartel. When I was in that Bellingham Costco a couple of years back, 90% of the license plates

00:36:36.520 were Canadian. It's like it was a place where Canadians ran away from John Horgan's taxes. Horgan

00:36:42.180 wasn't the premier back then. But I think that a lot of Canadians are literally going to a foreign 0.94

00:36:48.460 country to get gas and milk, by the way, to escape this carbon tax. What do you make of that crazy

00:36:54.640 phenomenon? Oh, it's insane. And the funny thing is, is some commentators have said the BC carbon tax

00:37:01.120 have helped lower gasoline consumption in British Columbia over the past 10 years. But that's not

00:37:07.340 taking into account all the people that are living across the border that just don't fill up in Canada

00:37:11.420 anymore. They'll go down to the, make their weekly trip down to the States and fill up on gas. And

00:37:16.140 then, like you said, milk, cheese, and a variety of other goods that are less expensive. So, I mean,

00:37:21.440 when you can save 30, 40 cents a liter by just driving 15 minutes away and then also get a discount

00:37:27.920 on other things, why wouldn't you? You'd be stupid not to. Yeah. It's pretty sad. I hope that BC 1.00

00:37:34.540 joins this trend of reaction to the hard left. But BC's got a mind of its own. It really is a

00:37:41.600 distinct society as much as Quebec, Newfoundland, or Alberta is. Aaron, I sure like talking to you,

00:37:47.400 and I think we should talk to you more. Can you tell our viewers where we can get more Aaron Gunn

00:37:51.720 and where we can get more BC Proud? Do you have a website or is it mainly your Facebook page?

00:37:57.460 We do have a website, but Facebook is where you're going to find all the content. You go to

00:38:01.480 facebook.com slash bcproud or facebook.com slash aarongunn.ca, and you can pretty much see all

00:38:08.320 our original videos and graphics and all that good stuff. All right. Well, BC Proud, that's the easy

00:38:12.980 one for me to remember. And we love what you're doing out there. I know it's 100 to 1. You're fighting

00:38:18.660 the odds, but if I know you, you're going to win it. So thanks for being one of the good guys.

00:38:23.860 Thanks for having me, Ezra. All right. What a pleasure. Well, there you have it. Aaron Gunn,

00:38:27.540 the spokesman for BC Proud. You can find them at facebook.com slash bcproud. Stay with us. More

00:38:34.100 ahead on The Rebel.

00:38:34.580 On my monologue yesterday about Justin Trudeau's plan for a new plastic tax, Hyacinth writes,

00:38:51.240 with all these new taxes that the liberals keep dreaming up, I have one question. What will the

00:38:55.220 new taxes be wasted on? So far, billions have been wasted and the vast majority of it is not

00:39:00.100 being spent on Canadians. Well, if you knew how big the budget was, you would know that in fact,

00:39:04.420 the vast majority of it has been wasted on Canadians, but that still leaves billions that

00:39:08.860 he throws around the world for a moment's worth of PR. I think he truly wants to be some sort of

00:39:13.600 globalist mascot, like his dad sort of was, but at least his dad was interested in domestic things

00:39:19.480 too, not Trudeau. He just wants to be sort of a glad, handy guy. He prefers being out of Ottawa to

00:39:24.920 in Ottawa. He prefers being out of Canada to in Canada. I think he's taken 41 foreign trips

00:39:30.580 since he's been prime minister. I'd have to check that. I think I read that in The Globe the other

00:39:34.400 day. He just doesn't like doing work. He loves going to India for an eight day trip,

00:39:39.280 one day of work, seven days of vacation. So yeah, he does spend billions overseas,

00:39:44.240 but it's not the majority. Harley writes, we could use all the plastic we have in road asphalt. I saw

00:39:50.640 a documentary on the test section of highway. The mix actually performed better than standard asphalt.

00:39:56.020 You know, I'll take your word for it. Asphalt, of course, is another hydrocarbon. It's one of the

00:40:00.780 many miracles that we get by using things inside the earth and not just, you know, plants or whatever.

00:40:08.740 My understanding, which is rather shallow, but which was strengthened by reading that report

00:40:13.760 yesterday, is that it usually just doesn't pay to recycle plastic. It just takes, like, here's my

00:40:18.900 point. If it takes a certain amount of energy to make plastic, and it takes more energy to recycle

00:40:27.080 plastic, how's that helping the earth? On my interview with Kian Bexty, Paul writes,

00:40:34.780 one province after another has fallen. Trudeau has soured the liberal brand. If I were one of the few

00:40:39.240 liberal provinces left, I'd be distancing myself as much as possible from my federal counterparts.

00:40:43.840 Yeah, well, I think there's only two liberal provinces left, and they're in the Atlantic.

00:40:50.360 I mean, I suppose they could distance themselves from Trudeau. I don't even know how they would do

00:40:54.380 that. What's interesting to me, and we talked about this with Aaron Gunn, is can we liberate British

00:41:00.300 Columbia? I wonder. Hal writes, your message to Canadians is of the greatest importance. It needs

00:41:06.860 to get out to all the world, especially Canada. At my request of every premium subscriber, would they

00:41:13.020 mind if the rebel was not behind a paywall? I think it's a truncated version of your letter,

00:41:20.220 and I think I wrote back to you directly. But my answer, and I'll share it with the rest of the

00:41:24.460 viewers, is, first of all, I'm flattered that you think more people ought to hear my message. And

00:41:29.160 obviously, I would love that, too. But we also have the pay the bills. And look, not everybody who

00:41:33.960 pays eight bucks a month renews. So that tells me that not everyone is just, here, here, take the money.

00:41:40.200 Because we actually need the premium subscription dough to pay the bills. It's what pays the bills

00:41:45.580 for all the other stuff, because YouTube has demonetized us. So I'm sure there would be some

00:41:49.640 amazing super supporters like you, who would chip in eight bucks a month anyways, just gratuitously.

00:41:55.120 And thank you, I know you would. But I just would be terrified that our support, our actual financial

00:42:02.980 support would fall in half. And people would say, oh, I don't need to pay. Why am I paying eight

00:42:07.940 bucks a month? I get it for free anyways. I just think it's the only sort of guaranteed money we

00:42:13.280 have, because if people pay an $80 annual subscription, well, now we know we have it for a

00:42:17.800 year. We don't have to keep crowdfunding it. So I just, you know, the only answer to doing videos

00:42:24.100 like this, when I look around, when I look at CRTV in the United States, when I look at Ben Shapiro,

00:42:29.160 the Daily Wire, when I look at all the other similar competitors, they either have an extremely

00:42:35.600 wealthy patron, as CRTV has, as Breitbart.com had in the Mercer family, as Daily Wire has in

00:42:42.540 their billionaire, or they're government funded in some way. Or they're not demonetized, like the

00:42:49.720 Young Turks on the left, they're not demonetized. Since those other options are either not available

00:42:54.300 to us, or we would never, we wouldn't survive, like there's no way we could take government money.

00:42:58.640 I actually believe that if I said, hey, Justin Trudeau, give me $2 million a year, and you can

00:43:05.320 have editorial control here, which is basically the deal, I bet he'd probably take it just to shut

00:43:09.640 us up. But then we're not the rebel anymore, and I'm not me anymore. So I think the only method left

00:43:15.020 to us is crowdfunding and subscriptions and the trickle of ads that YouTube lets through. If there's

00:43:20.560 another fancy way out there, let me know. And if there's a patron out there who would be hands-off,

00:43:25.180 let me know. But I don't even know if such a thing exists. Bob writes, twice in as many days,

00:43:31.680 you have said that Andrew Scheer has said nothing about this axing the CBC. When he was a candidate

00:43:35.960 for leader, he said that if he were to become PM, he would ax the news division, which I'm assuming

00:43:40.760 would be the punditry as well. You know what, I take your word for it. I don't remember him saying that.

00:43:49.100 And maybe it's because he's never repeated it since his leadership vote. You know, he's changed quite a few

00:43:53.580 things since his leadership. And I just don't think he has the courage to follow through with

00:43:58.900 that. I'm sorry. I grant you that he probably put it in some talking point three years ago,

00:44:04.020 but I haven't heard a peep about it since. I'm just not going to give a lot of credence to it.

00:44:08.360 He certainly acts like he bends the knee to them. And I say again, if Stephen Harper,

00:44:12.120 who was quite strong-willed, didn't defund the CBC, I don't believe Andrew Scheer,

00:44:17.000 who I see is much more compliant. I just don't think he's going to. I mean, listen,

00:44:20.500 do I hope I'm wrong? I hope I'm wrong. I don't think I'm wrong. Well, folks,

00:44:25.740 that's the show for today until tomorrow. On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:44:29.520 good night. Keep fighting for freedom.

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