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Tommy Robinson loses his court case against the Cambridgeshire police. What really happened？


Summary

Tommy Robinson loses his court case against the Cambridgeshire police. I give you my review of my three days in Peterborough, UK, and I interview Tommy himself. I also talk about Tommy's love of Luton and his love of football.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey, Rebels. Big podcast today. I talk about Tommy Robinson's trial. I've been over there
00:00:04.880 in Peterborough in the United Kingdom. That's how they say Peterborough. Tommy was on trial.
00:00:10.200 He was actually not the one on trial. He was taking the Cambridgeshire police to trial
00:00:13.400 for harassing him. But today, Tommy lost that case. I give you my review of my three days
00:00:18.440 over there, and I interview Tommy himself. Hey, I'd love it if you could sign up for
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00:00:43.100 without further ado, here's my report from Tommy's trial.
00:00:46.880 You're listening to a Rebel Media podcast. Tonight, Tommy Robinson loses his court case
00:00:52.860 against the Cambridgeshire police. What happened? It's the Ides of March, and you're watching
00:00:57.440 The Ezra Levant Show.
00:01:00.840 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:04.520 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:08.620 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's
00:01:13.000 my bloody right to do so.
00:01:14.460 Forgive me for my absence these past three days. As I mentioned when I spoke to you last, Tommy
00:01:24.240 Robinson called me up at 7 a.m. on Monday morning and said, Ed's, I'm going to court in Peterborough
00:01:29.300 suing the Cambridgeshire constabulary for what they did to my family. Please come to report from the
00:01:35.060 court. Oh, and by the way, the three-day trial starts tomorrow at 10 a.m., so can you please get
00:01:39.600 on a plane right away? That's what he said. Of course, he said it in his own way. He said
00:01:44.220 Peerborough instead of Peterborough. That's how they say it over there. I kept getting laughed
00:01:49.420 at for saying Peterborough. I even made a little video of it. Let me show you a bit of the banter.
00:01:54.900 Peterborough. I am from Canada, and there is a city in Canada called Peterborough. P-E-T-E-R-B-O-R-O-U-G.
00:02:04.400 Peterborough. Are you from Peterborough? I'm from Peterborough. Well, here I am in Peterborough,
00:02:10.520 United Kingdom, and I have been chided at great length by assorted Brits who, whenever I say
00:02:20.380 Peterborough, it's like I've said, it's like I've said a four-letter word, except for it's got like
00:02:25.620 10. So fellas, can you help me? It's not a four-letter word. How do you say it's not Peterborough?
00:02:30.660 No, it's not Peterborough. Is it Peterborough? Peterborough. Peterborough. Are you even saying
00:02:35.320 the T? Is it Peterborough? Peterborough. That's it. Okay, you said a T. Peterborough. Peterborough.
00:02:39.940 Peterborough. Peterborough. Peterborough. Well, there's a fella here who wasn't even saying
00:02:43.880 the T. Peterborough. Peterborough. Peterborough. Peterborough. Am I doing it? Some people just
00:02:49.720 call it the borough. The borough. So I'm here in the borough. I'm from the borough. All right.
00:02:54.480 I'm not making fun. They were making fun of me. I want to fit in. I want to fit. For the
00:03:00.340 Rebel Not Media here in Peterborough, I'm asked for the land. Oh, and by the way, that sauce you
00:03:05.880 put on steak, it's got Worcester. Worcestershire sauce. It's not Worcestershire. Peterborough.
00:03:11.820 Sounds like kookaburra. Anyways, there was a lot of laughs. It's a lot of laughs, but the
00:03:16.400 trial itself was extremely unfunny. Let me show you a bit of what it was about. I'm going
00:03:20.420 to start by showing you three clips, all taken from Tommy Robinson's own cell phone. Now, all
00:03:25.400 this happened just over two years ago in the summer of 2016. Tommy's a big football fan.
00:03:29.940 That's what they call soccer over there, and he goes to the matches, both in his native
00:03:34.340 Luton and when the team travels. In fact, when the trial ended one night, Tommy took me to
00:03:39.500 a match between Luton, that's Tommy's team, and Bradford. Look how big the stadium is,
00:03:44.420 eh? That's me looking very out of place, and I can't tell you how bitter cold it was, but
00:03:48.500 I got a good feeling for what these football games are about. The teams on each side are
00:03:52.620 very loyal and passionate. I mean, truly much more than anything we typically see here in
00:03:57.680 Canada. Even during NHL playoffs, you don't see that kind of mania here. And the thing is,
00:04:01.980 each team is that way. And a certain number of these football fans, especially when they drink
00:04:06.340 a few pints, they get rowdy, and they can fight even with rival football teams. So even going to
00:04:12.280 the Luton match with Tommy, I observed a few things. The stadium we went to has separate
00:04:18.900 entrances for the fans from each team. The home fans and the visiting fans entered the stadium from
00:04:26.000 different sides, at least in Bradford, and they sat on opposite sides of the stadium. And when there
00:04:33.360 was a break, the fans went out to buy a hot dog or whatever, get a beer, or in this case,
00:04:38.380 to buy a little meat pie. Isn't that funny? That's what they served. Everyone was holding these little
00:04:44.000 meat pies. They were pretty good. The Luton fans had their food concessions, and the Bradford fans
00:04:49.540 had their food concessions, so the fans didn't mix. Can you believe it? And last point, I thought this
00:04:55.920 was interesting. Each team has their own hometown police force there. So I just took this from where I
00:05:01.440 was sitting. For example, I was at the Luton versus Bradford match in Bradford, so obviously the police
00:05:08.040 from Bradford would be there, but you see that there was a special football police squad in each
00:05:12.060 city that travels to games on the road with each team. So there in Bradford, the Luton police had
00:05:18.060 sent their own football cops to Bradford to help keep order. They call them football spotters,
00:05:24.620 since they go to literally every game, and they get to know all the fans by name and face,
00:05:28.700 police, and so they know who might cause trouble, and they have a long-standing rapport with the
00:05:33.700 fans, good and bad. I took a picture of the Luton police in Bradford, and all the fans knew those
00:05:38.940 police, because it's the same cops at every game, and the police knew all the fans. It's an interesting
00:05:44.300 approach to policing. I tell you that by way of background, because my little experience at the
00:05:48.900 freezing cold Luton match in Bradford, and Luton won, by the way, it was useful. It wasn't just fun,
00:05:54.880 because back in 2016, in the case in question, in the lawsuit, I went over there to cover for Tommy.
00:06:00.040 Tommy, he's a Luton fan. He had traveled up to Cambridge to watch Luton play Cambridge. Tommy
00:06:04.100 went up there with a friend, and they each brought their kids. Tommy has three young kids,
00:06:08.540 and they made a family day out of it. They went to some kids festival in the city,
00:06:11.960 then they went to the stadium to watch the match, and then they went to a pub. And remember,
00:06:16.760 a pub or a public house, as they're formally called in the UK, they're not really like our Canadian or
00:06:22.500 American bars that are adults only. Yeah, they got a bar, but it's not like a nightclub or something.
00:06:27.840 These pubs obviously do serve beer, but, and these are pictures from, those were pictures we were
00:06:32.440 showing from the actual pub Tommy went to. They're really a place for families eating lunches,
00:06:37.900 socializing with other families. It's quite a fun custom. It's different from what we do here in
00:06:41.760 Canada. Families hang out there for hours. It's not a fast food place. They go there, they take their
00:06:48.540 time. The opposite of fast food, really. And they have something to eat, sure, and they watch a match
00:06:53.620 on TV, and they mill around, and they catch up with other families. It's a pretty fun tradition.
00:06:58.780 Sometimes these pubs have hotel rooms upstairs, like half a dozen rooms or something. When I visited
00:07:04.660 Tommy right after he got out of prison, you'll recall that's where I met him. You can see that pub
00:07:09.640 life. People just hanging around. People hang out there all day. That's the place I met Tommy in
00:07:15.200 Bradfordshire. It's a family place, but of course they serve beer. Anyway, I'm trying to paint a
00:07:19.280 picture for you of what these pubs are like, because if I said a bar, I think you might get
00:07:24.740 the wrong picture. I mean, yes, they have beer there, but it's like a day-long hangout for
00:07:28.500 families. Tommy was spending the day with his kids and his friends and their kids, and like I say,
00:07:34.060 they stay in this pub for hours, and the kids all hang out with each other, and they play with each
00:07:37.120 other, and every parent sort of keeps an eye out for every kid. I've seen it at that pub in
00:07:41.320 Bedfordshire that I've just shown you, the one I've been with Tommy a few times, and the kids
00:07:45.540 get bored, and they run around a bit, but maybe they play outside a bit if there's a park, but
00:07:49.880 they're all together. It's a real weekend kind of thing to do. Anyway, that's my brief experience
00:07:54.540 in the UK. I tell you all this because on that fateful day two and a half years ago, Tommy was at
00:07:58.860 a pub in Cambridge with its kids, and he was in full family mode. No drinking. I know that to be the
00:08:04.300 case. Tommy doesn't touch a drop of alcohol when he's with his family, and he hadn't had anything to
00:08:10.200 drink all day. It was a kid's day, and I say that to distinguish him from stereotypical football
00:08:15.820 hooligans who are a factor in British football, but Tommy isn't that way. At the Bradford game
00:08:21.560 I went to with him, he just watches the game, he cheers, he sings some of their chants, and he talks
00:08:27.200 with everyone, and they all seem to know each other, and all the fans know each other, and they know the
00:08:30.580 police. It's quite a thing. I don't think we have that in Canada, that communal feeling. NHL fans don't
00:08:36.160 have the same camaraderie. They don't travel to see every single away game of their home team in
00:08:41.620 communal buses with the same police riding along, really. We don't have that here. It's quite
00:08:47.340 interesting to a Canuck like me. Anyways, on that fateful day in 2016, Tommy took his kids to the
00:08:52.660 match, then afterwards they went to the pub, where Tommy watched another match on TV, a team called
00:08:58.260 Manchester United, you've probably heard of them, and then the police came in, and they came up to Tommy
00:09:03.940 and said, leave the pub now, or you'll get arrested. Now, it was 6.30 p.m., the match on TV with
00:09:10.760 Manchester United, it was going to end in half an hour anyways. Tommy was with his family, but the
00:09:16.640 cops from Cambridgeshire just said, hey, you, out of the pub now, or you'll get arrested. Tommy asked
00:09:23.520 why, and they didn't give him an answer. He asked again, they responded that if he kept asking, they'd
00:09:29.480 arrest him right there by serving him a form called a Section 35 dispersal notice. That's a fancy way
00:09:34.640 of saying being arrested for anti-social behavior. That's a thing in the UK. Tommy engaged with the
00:09:40.360 police, and he recorded it on his cell phone, and for good reason, as I'll tell you later here. Watch
00:09:46.360 about two minutes of the interaction with the cops. This is from Tommy's cell phone that was later
00:09:51.960 uploaded to YouTube. There are some notes on this video written, I think, by one of Tommy's friends,
00:09:56.460 Brian. So take a look for a second. What sort of law tells a man with his children he has to leave
00:10:01.380 the city? What is that about? What is that about? What is that about? Freedom, democracy, Britain,
00:10:08.240 what's that about? It's quite simple. Do you want me to explain it? Tell me why then. Tell me why.
00:10:12.720 The situation is, because of the lessons we've learned in the past, we know that if certain
00:10:17.020 groups stay within the city, then it causes violence. I'm with my children. I'm with my children.
00:10:21.040 So tell me what you're saying. I'm not having an interview. I've already told you. So you're
00:10:24.880 telling me what? I've told you already. Are you going to leave? Hold on, hold on, hold on. Are you
00:10:30.040 going to leave immediately? I'm with my children, and you're telling me I have to leave immediately. Are
00:10:33.000 you going to leave? Or what? You're going to get a section 35 dispersal notice. Right. Okay,
00:10:37.080 we'll give you a 35. Tell me what? I'm with my children. I'm with my children. Hold on,
00:10:42.080 hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm with my children. Stop getting a thing up your face. I'm not
00:10:46.080 being interviewed by you. That's fine, that's fine. No, you tell me why. You tell me why.
00:10:50.080 No, no. You'll get it on the form. It'll be explained to me. Tell me why I have to leave.
00:10:54.080 I'm going to get a form now. Tell me why. Listen, I'm going to. No, no, officer, officer.
00:10:59.080 Take that camera up my face. I'm not being interviewed by you. This isn't crime watch.
00:11:03.080 I'm with my children. You're telling me I have to leave. Why? Why? Because there's
00:11:08.080 likely to be disorder. Get off the hand. Don't assault me. Tell me why. Tell me why I have
00:11:15.080 to leave. Stop shouting at me. Tell me why I've got to leave. It'll be explained to you when
00:11:20.080 you get yourself to leave. How are you drawing a jurisdiction to where I do and don't go with
00:11:23.080 my kids? Tell me. Tell me the reason. Shush. I'm trying to talk on my radio. Hold on, you've
00:11:28.080 told me I've got to leave. Do you want me to take your hand away from him?
00:11:32.080 He's touching my hand. I'm minding my own business. I'm minding my own business. You've come off
00:11:37.080 the street to where I'm having a private drink with my family and you're telling me I have
00:11:41.080 to leave. Don't leave, mate. I can't talk. We're upstairs. Tell me why I have to leave.
00:11:46.080 Mate, you know this is ridiculous, eh? You're from Newton. You know this is ridiculous.
00:11:51.080 Tell me why I have to leave. At the end of the day, the boss has authorised a section 35.
00:11:55.080 But we've already cleared it. Why? And we're allowed to stay.
00:11:57.080 You haven't cleared it with the boss, have you? You haven't cleared it with the boss,
00:12:01.080 have you? So Tommy was pretty irate. I mean, I think you might be too if you were interrupted
00:12:06.080 at a restaurant where you were with your family and told to get out immediately or be arrested.
00:12:10.080 That's what the form was. We'll give you a form 35. If he had been drunk or disorderly
00:12:15.080 or fighting with rival teams, fair play. But none of that was the case. In fact, he was
00:12:20.080 apart from most of the Luton fans. He was upstairs in the pub. Most were downstairs.
00:12:25.080 The landlady of the pub, who didn't know Tommy, remember this was in Cambridge, not Tommy's
00:12:30.080 hometown of Luton. The landlady came over and told the cops, this guy's fine. He's just
00:12:37.080 been sitting here peacefully with his kids all day. Here, listen to this clip.
00:12:42.080 I'm the area manager of the security company. The group that you're throwing out have been
00:12:47.080 in the Prince Regent today with their children. There's no problems at all in there. So come
00:12:51.080 in here. My head of security. He's saying that they've not closed the door.
00:12:56.080 Shall I have a chat with you away from this, all right? No, away from you.
00:12:59.080 No, no, no. Come and talk away from this.
00:13:01.080 Why, why, why? Because you don't want people hearing the truth.
00:13:03.080 No, I don't want to talk to you. No, you don't want to hear people. No, she's telling you,
00:13:07.080 she's telling you she's seen my family all day.
00:13:11.080 You heard her. He's been there all day with his family, children. No problem. He's been
00:13:14.080 no problem. You'd think that would be the end of it. I mean, this landlady had no stake
00:13:18.080 in this other than she wants an orderly restaurant safe. And sure, she wants her paying customers.
00:13:24.080 So you'd think if Tommy had been in the slightest way a problem, the landlady would say, oh,
00:13:28.080 thank God, officer, you're here. Get him out. She'd be grateful to the cops for kicking him
00:13:33.080 up, but the opposite. She was saying, why are you kicking out one of my paying customers?
00:13:37.080 He's been here all day with his family. I wonder if they even had the right to do so.
00:13:40.080 I mean, what if she instead had kicked the cops out?
00:13:45.080 Puppet's private property. I wonder what would have happened if the landlady would have told
00:13:50.080 the cops, please get off my private property or I'll come for you for press, trespass,
00:13:54.080 and please leave my peaceful paying customers alone. I wonder what have happened,
00:13:58.080 would have happened in that alternate universe. But she didn't do that. And as you can see,
00:14:02.080 the cop didn't even really listen to her. He just made his decision. And if Tommy didn't
00:14:06.080 like it, he should take it up with the boss. Tommy grudgingly complied. And when he and
00:14:13.080 his kids left the pub, the police now said, OK, now get out of the city. Get out of the
00:14:18.080 entire city. Leave the city. Go to the train station and get out now. Now, unlike when Tommy
00:14:25.080 Tommy was talking to the cops, Tommy's kids were right there now. So Tommy wasn't as vocally
00:14:32.080 irate anymore. He was trying to be calm and controlled because he didn't want to upset his
00:14:35.080 kids. So watch this part right when they're leaving the pub. He's with his kids. So Tommy's
00:14:41.080 tone is lower. But they're saying get out of the city.
00:14:44.080 Because no problems. It's embarrassing lads.
00:14:49.080 Look at all the way I'm playing. The whole time? You know what I should do?
00:14:55.080 You ready kids? Come on, bro. Let's go. You get over there? Let's go over there? Yeah.
00:15:01.080 Yeah? That's all right. Come on girls. Alright.
00:15:05.080 Let's get down. Don't I get the tissue and we have to go. Come on. Come on, bro.
00:15:09.080 Sorry. Come on.
00:15:13.080 Come on.
00:15:18.280 We've got five kids with us, so obviously we're causing loads of trouble and we've got to get out.
00:15:22.280 Look at that.
00:15:23.280 Mate, it's a fucking joke.
00:15:28.280 Look, he's even following us, you know?
00:15:30.280 It's all the way as well.
00:15:31.280 Mate, go home.
00:15:32.280 Kids, come on.
00:15:34.280 Come on.
00:15:36.280 Come on, go home.
00:15:43.080 Come on, I'm filming it.
00:15:51.080 Why were they following him?
00:15:53.080 Why were they filming him?
00:15:55.080 Imagine being told to leave a city.
00:15:58.080 For what crime?
00:16:00.080 For what crime?
00:16:01.080 Well, keep asking and I'll arrest you.
00:16:04.080 That's the crime.
00:16:05.080 That's what the cop upstairs said.
00:16:06.080 Anyways, Tommy did indeed, as you can see, walk to the train station and the police,
00:16:11.080 well, they followed him and they didn't just follow him.
00:16:14.080 One of them took out a video camera and ostentatiously started recording him with his kids right there.
00:16:21.080 How creepy is that?
00:16:22.080 You could see he had left the pub.
00:16:23.080 You could see he was walking to the railway station.
00:16:25.080 And then his girls started to cry and then Tommy got mad in front of his kids for the first time.
00:16:31.080 Take a look.
00:16:32.080 No idea, darling.
00:16:34.080 Darling, my daughter's crying her eyes out now, lads.
00:16:37.080 No, no, so you're following us.
00:16:39.080 You're following us.
00:16:40.080 You're shouting.
00:16:41.080 You're making my daughter cry.
00:16:42.080 Go away.
00:16:43.080 We're making sure that you stay safe.
00:16:44.080 They're scared.
00:16:45.080 Right, okay.
00:16:46.080 We're following you.
00:16:47.080 There's no way out of that.
00:16:48.080 You think we need safety?
00:16:49.080 Go away.
00:16:50.080 Mason, darling.
00:16:51.080 Come here.
00:16:52.080 Come here, darling.
00:16:53.080 It's all right.
00:16:54.080 Come here, sweetheart.
00:16:55.080 It's all right.
00:16:56.080 Come here.
00:16:57.080 Come here.
00:16:58.080 Girls, come here.
00:16:59.080 You've terrorised my family.
00:17:12.080 You've terrorised my children.
00:17:14.080 You've terrorised my children.
00:17:16.080 No, you've terrorised my children.
00:17:17.080 Stop following us.
00:17:18.080 You've terrorised my children.
00:17:20.080 You've terrorised my children.
00:17:22.080 They're kids trying to watch football.
00:17:24.080 You've terrorised them.
00:17:25.080 You've caused this, you bully.
00:17:27.080 You're a terrible bully.
00:17:28.080 Hmm.
00:17:29.080 So those are the facts, at least the evidence.
00:17:33.080 Funny thing, that police videographer, surprise, he deleted his own videotape.
00:17:40.080 Even though he testified in court that he was the official evidence gatherer.
00:17:44.080 That's weird.
00:17:45.080 That video cop testified and said, under oath, that depending on the situation, he is obligated
00:17:50.080 to keep evidence for at least 28 days, or even, he said, in some cases, up to 100 years.
00:17:55.080 But in this case, he felt the video was of no relevance or interest.
00:17:59.080 So he just deleted it.
00:18:01.080 Whoopsies.
00:18:02.080 This isn't that convenient.
00:18:04.080 There was a lot of that at the trial.
00:18:06.080 You can watch the whole 17-minute YouTube interaction of Tommy and the police as uploaded
00:18:10.080 by Tommy's friend to the internet, and that's recorded on Tommy's phone.
00:18:14.080 Tommy says it ended only when his cell phone battery ran out.
00:18:17.080 That's why he wanted to see the police video.
00:18:20.080 And he wrote to them to that effect.
00:18:22.080 Can I see the police video?
00:18:23.080 But because, for example, Tommy said that his daughter was so upset by the police following
00:18:27.080 her and videotaping her that she actually started to run out into the street.
00:18:31.080 And he knew that would be corroborated by the police video that captured it all.
00:18:35.080 But alas, the cop thought it was irrelevant, so he deleted it.
00:18:39.080 You know, I haven't practiced law in a long time, but if you delete evidence, hide something
00:18:44.080 from the court, in Canada at least, there's a presumption that you were hiding something
00:18:48.080 because it was embarrassing to your case.
00:18:50.080 So a court takes an adverse inference from it.
00:18:53.080 If you're going to play silly games like that, the court is going to assume the worst
00:18:56.080 about what you refused to show them, right?
00:18:59.080 Assume it was damning, but that didn't happen here.
00:19:03.080 Anyway, so I attended the trial for three days.
00:19:05.080 I just got back to Toronto Lake last night, and the judge actually released her judgment
00:19:10.080 today.
00:19:11.080 And I read about it through the website of the Cambridgeshire Live, a local newspaper.
00:19:15.080 They had a young reporter, Freddie Lynn, who actually was sitting next to me the whole
00:19:19.080 time during the trial.
00:19:20.080 We became friendly acquaintances.
00:19:21.080 So he was in court still today, and he was typing things up, and I relied on him for what
00:19:26.080 happened.
00:19:27.080 And I learned today that the judge, in fact, ruled against Tommy.
00:19:32.080 Here's Freddie's story.
00:19:34.080 Not only did the judge throw out Tommy's lawsuit, but Tommy has to pay the lawyer for the police,
00:19:40.080 and apparently he has to pay the police themselves.
00:19:42.080 I've never heard of that before.
00:19:44.080 They were being paid to attend the trial.
00:19:46.080 They incurred no cost personally.
00:19:48.080 But Tommy told me he doesn't just have to pay for their lawyers, but the police, a total
00:19:53.080 of, if Tommy, if I heard him right, a total of 38,000 pounds, which is over 60,000 Canadian
00:19:59.080 dollars.
00:20:00.080 Now, I'm mad at the police for their obvious strong arm tactics.
00:20:03.080 Kicking a guy out of a restaurant for no reason at all.
00:20:06.080 I'm mad at the judge for accepting it.
00:20:08.080 I'm mad at the judge for what she believed and what she refused to believe from the trial.
00:20:12.080 For example, she specifically said that she did not believe that Tommy's kids were with
00:20:16.080 him in the pub.
00:20:18.080 But he said that they were.
00:20:20.080 The pub's landlady, I showed you the video, said that they were.
00:20:24.080 You saw a video of them with him.
00:20:28.080 But here's what the judge said.
00:20:31.080 I am satisfied that children were not in the public house, but on the green.
00:20:37.080 The judge said they weren't in the pub, but everyone else who was there says they were.
00:20:42.080 The landlady, Tommy, you saw with your own eyes.
00:20:46.080 A Luton police spotter named Constable Mason, that's one of those Luton cops that travels
00:20:50.080 with the Luton team, testified that he saw Tommy with the kids.
00:20:55.080 Now, he's a cop.
00:20:56.080 He said it under oath, but the judge actually said she thinks that Luton cop was mistaken.
00:21:03.080 What?
00:21:05.080 You saw the cop hear from the landlady that Tommy was fine.
00:21:10.080 You saw the cop ignore that, though.
00:21:12.080 At the court, when asked why he kicked out Tommy, if there were no problems, he told this
00:21:17.080 laughable story about how he had bumped into someone on the street.
00:21:21.080 And he only remembered this later, by the way.
00:21:23.080 The cops said this.
00:21:24.080 Sargent Street of the Cambridgeshire cops said that he bumped into someone on the street,
00:21:28.080 a drunk fan who, he claimed, uttered something about, you better watch out for that Tommy
00:21:34.080 Robinson or something.
00:21:35.080 The cop actually called that Intel.
00:21:38.080 This alleged comment by an anonymous drunk on the street was Intel.
00:21:42.080 Oh, by the way, that he didn't remember until much later.
00:21:44.080 But his own observations of Tommy being sober, hearing the landlady saying everything was
00:21:51.080 fine, the kids were there, that apparently is mistaken.
00:21:55.080 An imaginary friend told him Tommy was a risk, and that was more powerful than the landlady's.
00:22:00.080 And the judge bought it.
00:22:01.080 The judge said, the policing I've described above, the policing that's shown in Tommy's
00:22:05.080 video for 17 minutes, you can find the whole thing online.
00:22:08.080 The judge said, that's fine.
00:22:09.080 That's good policing.
00:22:10.080 In fact, Tommy owes them money now, not the other way around.
00:22:14.080 I want to tell you two more crazy things.
00:22:16.080 Here's a tweet that I wrote from court.
00:22:18.080 I was very careful to get it right, word for word.
00:22:21.080 This is the definition of a risk supporter, a football hooligan that's at risk.
00:22:26.080 The police use to arrest people on site.
00:22:29.080 If you're at risk, they can arrest you on site.
00:22:31.080 They call you a risk supporter.
00:22:33.080 That's their word.
00:22:34.080 This is how a cop defined being a risk supporter to Tommy's lawyer.
00:22:39.080 This is the European Union definition that he follows.
00:22:43.080 Ready?
00:22:44.080 So Gurdon, what is the EU definition?
00:22:46.080 That's Tommy's lawyer.
00:22:47.080 Mason, the cop said, any person, known or not, that has the capability or possibility
00:22:53.080 of public order or antisocial behavior, whether that's spontaneous or pre-planned at any football event.
00:23:00.080 Really?
00:23:01.080 Any person, known or not?
00:23:04.080 What does that even mean?
00:23:06.080 That just means any person who has the possibility of being antisocial, even in a spontaneous manner.
00:23:13.080 Isn't that literally any human being in the world?
00:23:16.080 Isn't it true that any human has the possibility of being antisocial on a spontaneous basis?
00:23:22.080 I mean, I guess not for a baby in a pram or something, but literally any adult could be arrested under that.
00:23:29.080 Of course, that's going to be abused.
00:23:31.080 Just like it was abused.
00:23:34.080 Right.
00:23:35.080 OK, we'll give you a 35 minute.
00:23:36.080 Tell me for what?
00:23:37.080 I'm with my children.
00:23:38.080 I'm with my children.
00:23:39.080 I'm with my children.
00:23:40.080 Hold on, hold on.
00:23:41.080 It's not absolute, please.
00:23:42.080 It's in Cambridge.
00:23:43.080 I'm with my children.
00:23:44.080 Stop getting a thing in place.
00:23:45.080 I'm not being interviewed by you.
00:23:46.080 I'm not giving you.
00:23:47.080 Right.
00:23:48.080 That's fine.
00:23:49.080 You tell me why.
00:23:50.080 You tell me why.
00:23:51.080 No, no.
00:23:52.080 You'll get it on the form.
00:23:53.080 It'll be explained to you.
00:23:54.080 I'm going to get a form now.
00:23:55.080 Tell me why.
00:23:56.080 Tell me why you're giving me the form.
00:24:00.080 It'll be explained on the form.
00:24:02.080 The form is the Section 35 Dispersal Order for Antisocial Behavior.
00:24:07.080 Why are you arresting me?
00:24:08.080 I'll let you know when I arrest you.
00:24:09.080 You know, am I doing something wrong right now?
00:24:11.080 I'll tell you when I arrest you.
00:24:13.080 Can you tell me when I'm doing something wrong?
00:24:15.080 If you keep asking me why I'm arresting you, I'm going to arrest you.
00:24:18.080 Imagine having that power.
00:24:21.080 I met that cop, by the way.
00:24:23.080 He's just the same in person as he is in the bar there.
00:24:26.080 Imagine having that power.
00:24:28.080 To arrest someone because they might possibly do something in the future that's antisocial.
00:24:33.080 In fact, that's actually what the judge said.
00:24:36.080 She accepted the imaginary friend warning the cop about Tommy as a reason to arrest him,
00:24:43.080 but she dismissed the landlady's comments by saying,
00:24:47.080 Look at that.
00:24:48.080 Look at that.
00:24:49.080 Let me just quote from this.
00:24:50.080 Hold this for a second up.
00:24:52.080 Judge Walden Smith continues,
00:24:55.080 The landlady clearly intervened to say,
00:24:58.080 Mr. Lennon, that's Tommy, had been fine.
00:25:01.080 That is evidence that is relevant, but it's not everything.
00:25:04.080 This is the judge.
00:25:05.080 She's referring, the landlady is referring to how they had been,
00:25:10.080 and not how he was going to be.
00:25:13.080 Well, sure, the landlady said Tommy was fine all day.
00:25:19.080 Okay, sure, fine.
00:25:21.080 With his kids, fine.
00:25:23.080 But she didn't have a crystal ball to know he would still be fine for the last hour of the game.
00:25:28.080 The judge said, well, you know, he might suddenly have gone berserk.
00:25:34.080 You never know.
00:25:35.080 It's incredible.
00:25:36.080 It's incredible.
00:25:37.080 But there was one more thing that was incredible.
00:25:39.080 I got into a little bit of trouble myself.
00:25:41.080 I don't know if you heard.
00:25:42.080 Live tweeting from the court.
00:25:43.080 In fact, my live tweets from the court over the course of three days,
00:25:47.080 according to Twitter analytics, were cumulatively viewed 13 million times.
00:25:54.080 13 million.
00:25:55.080 That is a lot of views.
00:25:57.080 And you could tell that the police and the lawyers were obsessed by what I was typing.
00:26:03.080 I mean, my friend Freddie from the Cambridge Sure Live was doing a good enough job, but 13 million views.
00:26:09.080 That's something else not to brag.
00:26:10.080 Okay, brag a little.
00:26:12.080 And so this is what happened.
00:26:13.080 During a break in the court, I was standing near a cop, the one who had threatened to arrest Tommy.
00:26:17.080 The one said, oh, wait, mate, I'll arrest you.
00:26:19.080 I'll show you why when I arrest you.
00:26:20.080 And I asked him a couple questions, including if he had any regrets.
00:26:23.080 And he said, do you have any regrets?
00:26:25.080 That's a total interaction.
00:26:26.080 Maybe it was 10 seconds, maybe 15 seconds.
00:26:28.080 And the cops just all went back into the court to move away from me.
00:26:30.080 Okay, fair enough.
00:26:32.080 But then those cops literally complained to the judge claiming I was intimidating them.
00:26:36.080 I swear to God.
00:26:38.080 So stalking Tommy and his kids, including making his young daughter cry, that's good policing.
00:26:45.080 But these three big bad men asking them, hey, guys, do you regret it?
00:26:49.080 That's intimidating the police.
00:26:51.080 I kid you not, the judge said that.
00:26:54.080 So the judge interrupted the trial the first day and cautioned me to stop being so intimidating.
00:26:59.080 And I said, no problem.
00:27:01.080 Okay, I'll stop intimidating Cambridge's finest.
00:27:03.080 And I actually apologize.
00:27:04.080 And not to the cops, of course.
00:27:06.080 But I apologize to the judge for causing her a headache in her own court.
00:27:10.080 So no problem.
00:27:11.080 I kept tweeting.
00:27:12.080 And then the cops or someone must have complained again.
00:27:15.080 I don't know who did.
00:27:16.080 Because the judge stopped the proceedings later and ordered the entire public gallery to leave the court.
00:27:22.080 The judge wasn't in the, then the judge left the court.
00:27:25.080 The judge wasn't in the court at that moment, actually.
00:27:27.080 But she had the clerk or the usher ask every journalist, ask all the public to leave, and then ask the remaining people, including the journalists, to show their journalism license or some sort of registration card they have over there, like a permit.
00:27:41.080 Really a license.
00:27:43.080 The court was asking everyone to prove they were licensed to commit journalism.
00:27:48.080 Licensed?
00:27:50.080 Well, here in Canada, we don't require a license to do journalism.
00:27:54.080 We're not like Romania, where during the Cold War, you literally had to register your typewriter with the government and get a license because they didn't want anyone typing anything that could cause trouble.
00:28:03.080 That's true. Look it up.
00:28:04.080 So I told the court, I said, look, we don't have journalism permits in Canada.
00:28:09.080 And they accepted that.
00:28:10.080 But what was so gross, what was so sad was the speed, the glee, the pride with which the rest of the journalists in the room, including my friend Freddie, whipped out their licenses.
00:28:18.080 They were so proud.
00:28:19.080 Here's my license, mate.
00:28:21.080 Proud to be asked.
00:28:22.080 Proud to prove they were compliant and submissive.
00:28:25.080 They were so proud of their licenses.
00:28:27.080 I'm licensed, bruv.
00:28:29.080 Anyways, the judge came back in, raised an eyebrow about my point that we don't need licenses here in Canada.
00:28:36.080 I don't know if she believed me even.
00:28:37.080 And then she gave a very explicit warning to me directly that I had better stop tweeting any opinions.
00:28:43.080 None at all.
00:28:44.080 I couldn't question goofy things like a cop and his imaginary friend.
00:28:48.080 I couldn't express an opinion at all in my tweets.
00:28:50.080 Like, I was silent in the court.
00:28:51.080 Obviously, I didn't say anything during the trial.
00:28:53.080 She said that I couldn't say any opinions on Twitter at all.
00:28:57.080 No opinions.
00:28:58.080 And that her ban didn't just apply to what I said from typing in court.
00:29:03.080 But if I was outside the court, like if I made a video, she said that she didn't want me to have any opinions at all on the trial until the ruling came out.
00:29:13.080 And I didn't want to take out any more of the court's time.
00:29:15.080 So I said, look, I'll do my best to just be a stenographer.
00:29:18.080 I didn't want to push this trial off the rails or anything.
00:29:20.080 It wasn't my affair.
00:29:21.080 But I guess that wasn't good enough because after the trial ended on the second day, Wednesday, I was asked to go back into the courtroom.
00:29:28.080 And it was just me then, the judge, the two clerks, the two lawyers, the clerk and the usher, and me.
00:29:33.080 And we were in the courtroom, just us.
00:29:36.080 And the judge told me at great length that if I kept giving my opinions, which I guess I was doing, she'd hold me in contempt of court.
00:29:44.080 And it wasn't a hearing.
00:29:45.080 I was facing no charges.
00:29:47.080 It was just her being very mad at me.
00:29:49.080 And I didn't want to fight.
00:29:50.080 I told her the truth.
00:29:51.080 I didn't come to Peterborough to quarrel with her.
00:29:55.080 It was her trial.
00:29:56.080 I didn't want to interfere with it.
00:29:58.080 To be candid, I have no idea how my tweets could possibly interfere with her trial.
00:30:02.080 She's the judge.
00:30:03.080 There was no jury that might sneak a peek in my tweets.
00:30:05.080 It's laughable that my tweets could be intimidating to these big burly cops or something.
00:30:09.080 It was so weird.
00:30:11.080 So I don't even know why tweeting would impact the trial.
00:30:14.080 I mean, unless they're all watching my tweets, why would they do that?
00:30:18.080 Now, like I said, I have tweeted hundreds of little updates.
00:30:21.080 So I asked her, well, was there anything in particular you're mad about?
00:30:24.080 And she mentioned a couple, including this one, where I had made a self-deprecating joke.
00:30:30.080 I said, hopefully this won't get me thrown in the dungeon.
00:30:33.080 It's a little joke.
00:30:34.080 It's obviously not going to derail a trial.
00:30:37.080 Obviously, that's not going to intimidate a police officer.
00:30:39.080 Obviously, that's not going to spoil the jury.
00:30:41.080 There was no jury.
00:30:42.080 It was a self-deprecating joke about me and my big mouth.
00:30:45.080 But the judge obviously didn't even like the joke.
00:30:48.080 I'm not even sure what was wrong with that tweet, but I deleted it.
00:30:50.080 I took a picture of it before I deleted it.
00:30:52.080 And I told her, look, just tell me what you want me to delete.
00:30:54.080 I'll just delete it.
00:30:55.080 I don't care.
00:30:56.080 Even if I disagree with this, just tell me.
00:30:58.080 I mean, I fight for freedom every day.
00:30:59.080 I fight in the court all the time.
00:31:01.080 This just wasn't the right moment.
00:31:03.080 It was Tommy's trial, not mine.
00:31:05.080 It wasn't about me.
00:31:06.080 Go there to get in a quarrel in a foreign country.
00:31:09.080 I thought I'd tell you that because that was probably the saddest part of the whole experience
00:31:12.080 to me.
00:31:13.080 First, that the UK has allowed itself to be governed by laws that allow police to simply
00:31:18.080 arrest anyone for anything at any time, for what future crimes they might possibly commit.
00:31:22.080 Of course, that's going to be abused by bully cops.
00:31:25.080 That was sad to me.
00:31:27.080 Even sadder was the general political media culture.
00:31:30.080 That to the establishment, to lawyers, politicians, the media, the courts, everyone, having unrestricted
00:31:34.080 police powers is just fine.
00:31:37.080 And having journalism licenses is just fine.
00:31:40.080 And threatening to hold a journalist in contempt and possibly throw him, me, in prison for expressing
00:31:45.080 an opinion on Twitter or a dumb joke, that's just fine.
00:31:49.080 It's all just fine.
00:31:51.080 Except that it isn't.
00:31:52.080 Listen, look, I like visiting the UK, I like my friend Tommy, but I sure wouldn't want to
00:31:56.080 live there.
00:31:57.080 And I want to do my best to make sure that we here in Canada and in the States, too, don't
00:32:01.080 make the same mistakes they are.
00:32:03.080 By the way, one of the reasons we're fighting Rachel Notley in court so hard in Alberta is
00:32:08.080 that she wants us to register our billboards with the government, like it's a Romanian typewriter,
00:32:13.080 like it's a British journalist.
00:32:15.080 Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not yet.
00:32:19.080 All right.
00:32:20.080 Stay tuned.
00:32:21.080 Next is an interview I did today via Skype with Tommy from his car at the side of the road
00:32:25.080 just after he left the trial.
00:32:26.080 Take a look.
00:32:27.080 Okay, we have Tommy.
00:32:42.080 Pipe him through.
00:32:43.080 Hey, Eds.
00:32:44.080 How are you doing?
00:32:45.080 Tommy, great.
00:32:46.080 Do we have you on video or just audio?
00:32:48.080 I can see your...
00:32:50.080 Hold on.
00:32:51.080 Perfect.
00:32:52.080 Can you...
00:32:53.080 Yeah, okay.
00:32:54.080 There you go.
00:32:55.080 Okay, Tommy, we got 4,000 people online, but I'll invite more to come.
00:32:59.080 The camera's a little close.
00:33:00.080 Maybe you could hold it a little further away from your...
00:33:02.080 Yeah, perfect.
00:33:04.080 You're not driving now, mate, are you?
00:33:06.080 No, I'm pulled over, mate.
00:33:07.080 I don't want another charge.
00:33:09.080 Yeah, okay.
00:33:10.080 Well, thanks very much.
00:33:11.080 I just read from Freddie Lynn's blog in Cambridgeshire Live that you have lost the case
00:33:18.080 and have been ordered to pay £20,000 to the Cambridgeshire police.
00:33:21.080 Is that accurate?
00:33:23.080 £20,000 within 14 days and then I've got to pay a further £18,000.
00:33:30.080 I've got to pay Cambridgeshire police...
00:33:33.080 I'm going to laugh or cry, man.
00:33:36.080 £38,000 so that they can drive me from a city centre.
00:33:41.080 The police, the Luton intelligence police officer stood in court and said I was of no risk.
00:33:48.080 The judge said I committed no crime.
00:33:50.080 I'd done nothing wrong.
00:33:52.080 Yet they were within the law.
00:33:54.080 What does this say about British law?
00:33:56.080 Yeah.
00:33:57.080 That she found that they acted within the law by forcefully ejecting me and my children from an entire city.
00:34:03.080 So you need £38,000, Tommy.
00:34:06.080 Is that right?
00:34:07.080 £38,000, man.
00:34:09.080 All right.
00:34:10.080 Well, let me say this.
00:34:11.080 I've got 4,200 of your friends here.
00:34:13.080 I explained to them at the beginning of the show and we talked about this briefly.
00:34:17.080 We were going to do a super chat yesterday.
00:34:19.080 I already told you that we'd be happy to share.
00:34:21.080 As you know, Google takes 30% off the top.
00:34:23.080 If people chip in right now for Tommy...
00:34:26.080 I had actually spoken to Tommy yesterday when I was in the UK about doing a super chat with him.
00:34:31.080 Let's get Tommy some money right now, right now, for his legal defence.
00:34:36.080 If you...
00:34:37.080 Do you know what I think they've done this?
00:34:40.080 My legal costs in this case were £10,000.
00:34:43.080 They've charged me £40,000.
00:34:46.080 Now, that is, I believe, they know I've got a case coming about my treatment in prison,
00:34:53.080 about my unlawful detention and the way I was held.
00:34:56.080 Now, it's simply to price you out.
00:35:00.080 To live simply, how is an average person supposed to take them to court?
00:35:04.080 And in what court, in what country can anyone watch that video that happened to me and my family
00:35:09.080 and say that that is fair?
00:35:11.080 Yeah.
00:35:12.080 It's implicit.
00:35:13.080 Even my enemies have been disgusted by what they've seen in that video.
00:35:18.080 Yeah.
00:35:19.080 Yeah, yeah.
00:35:20.080 All right.
00:35:21.080 So, folks, if you contribute a super chat, we'll pass on the dough to Tommy's solicitor, his lawyer.
00:35:27.080 That's what they call lawyers over there.
00:35:29.080 So, if you do a super chat, we'll give the dough to cover Tommy's costs here.
00:35:32.080 You know how to do that.
00:35:33.080 Someone just...
00:35:34.080 If you put in a super chat of 50 quid or $50 or more, I'll read your question to Tommy right now.
00:35:40.080 Tommy, do we have audio from you, Tommy?
00:35:44.080 So, you look...
00:35:46.080 Oh, yeah.
00:35:47.080 I see you there.
00:35:48.080 Okay.
00:35:49.080 So, there's some support from Tommy here.
00:35:51.080 I appreciate that.
00:35:53.080 I see people say, my money for Tommy, but not Ezra.
00:35:56.080 I'm telling you, I'm going to give this super chat dough to Tommy.
00:35:58.080 I spoke with him about it yesterday, in fact.
00:36:01.080 We did.
00:36:02.080 We did.
00:36:03.080 And it's just...
00:36:04.080 I just...
00:36:05.080 I can't think how...
00:36:07.080 In fact, I can.
00:36:09.080 The whole...
00:36:10.080 All that's done, I actually said in court to the judge at the end, I'd like to personally
00:36:14.080 thank you.
00:36:15.080 Because every single...
00:36:16.080 The millions of people who have watched that video of that police behavior, to think that
00:36:20.080 the system here defends that behavior, you've just exposed yourself.
00:36:25.080 You've exposed the corruption of this legal system that defends those actions of those
00:36:31.080 police officers that day.
00:36:32.080 Actions that my own police force, membership police, were disgusted by themselves.
00:36:37.080 They didn't agree with it.
00:36:39.080 Yet here, the judge, or the establishment, or the part of it, has completely defended the
00:36:44.080 police's actions in their entirety.
00:36:47.080 Well, Tommy, one of the things...
00:36:49.080 I played for people three times the clip of the landlady saying you were fine.
00:36:55.080 And she specifically mentioned your kids were there.
00:36:58.080 But if I'm reading Cambridgeshire Live's blog from Freddie Lynn, the judge said she didn't
00:37:04.080 believe your kids were there.
00:37:05.080 Did I get that right?
00:37:07.080 She said...
00:37:08.080 Even though Officer Mason, the looting police officer, said when he came into the premises,
00:37:13.080 my children were upstairs with me.
00:37:16.080 He said she...
00:37:17.080 The judge said she believes he got that wrong.
00:37:20.080 She also said, now, Ezra White, I didn't draw attention to it, but when I'm leaving the
00:37:24.080 pub, you see my daughter run past in her looting top, coming from behind me.
00:37:29.080 I've never made a distinction of that, because I didn't want to draw attention to what my daughter
00:37:34.080 looked like.
00:37:35.080 So, it's just the entire thing.
00:37:37.080 That entire thing.
00:37:38.080 And then the police officer thinking, well, the two police officers said he was drunk.
00:37:42.080 He didn't mention the fact that they lied, that they said I was swearing at them, that
00:37:46.080 in the video footage, it proves that I wasn't.
00:37:48.080 He didn't mention that.
00:37:50.080 The judge might, oh, I'm frustrated by it, because it's just completely...
00:37:55.080 It's absurd.
00:37:56.080 How can you watch that video and then order me to pay £40,000 for what they've done to
00:38:01.080 me that day?
00:38:02.080 Yeah.
00:38:03.080 Well, one of the things that the judge said, and again, I was reading Freddie's live blog,
00:38:09.080 so I'm relying on him, but I think he's accurate.
00:38:11.080 He said the judge mentioned the landlady and said, sure.
00:38:15.080 She said Tommy was fine, but she didn't know how he would be in the future.
00:38:20.080 That's insane to me.
00:38:22.080 That's saying, well, sure, to say that, well, Tommy might possibly have suddenly done something
00:38:27.080 wrong with his family.
00:38:29.080 That's insane.
00:38:30.080 But that's...
00:38:31.080 But the more I learn about this anti-social behavior section 35 orders, they basically can
00:38:37.080 arrest anybody.
00:38:38.080 I saw that Sergeant Streep from Cambridgeshire.
00:38:40.080 The whole world has seen him.
00:38:41.080 I thought he was extremely aggressive and arrogant in court, just like he was on that
00:38:45.080 video.
00:38:46.080 And the judge is fine with that.
00:38:48.080 Now, what this gives is...
00:38:52.080 This is the green card now.
00:38:54.080 Why are you on the family?
00:38:55.080 Because they can do this.
00:38:57.080 This is the permission and the president of a case to say that, yes, without any evidence,
00:39:03.080 without any negative actions by an individual who's with his family, without doing anything
00:39:10.080 wrong, the police are within the law to forcefully eject them and video them as a family out of
00:39:17.080 a city.
00:39:18.080 You know, I was so frustrated and it just feels, you know, your autobiography is called Enemy
00:39:26.080 of the State.
00:39:27.080 And you show that all the establishment, they all stick together.
00:39:32.080 The police, the prosecutors, the courts, the media, the politicians.
00:39:37.080 I feel like this is exhibit A in how they all collude.
00:39:41.080 It really is the elite establishment.
00:39:44.080 I can't believe that the judge accepted that this imaginary fan who warned, hey, Sergeant
00:39:52.080 Street, watch out for that Tommy Robinson.
00:39:55.080 Such a clearly...
00:39:56.080 No evidence.
00:39:57.080 And to take, to give that weight, but to brush off the landlady, I'm shocked by this,
00:40:04.080 but maybe I shouldn't be shocked.
00:40:06.080 And to brush off the Luton intel officer whose job it is to give them intelligence on who's
00:40:12.080 going to cause trouble.
00:40:13.080 The man that's known me for 15 years, the man that clearly tells her he is no risk.
00:40:19.080 He told the court he's no risk.
00:40:22.080 He's no risk at all.
00:40:23.080 In fact, the same police, the Home Office took a case against me two years ago where they
00:40:28.080 tried to ban me from leaving England.
00:40:30.080 And they tried to ban me from my town centre and they used exactly what this police force have
00:40:35.080 done.
00:40:36.080 My presence could provoke a reaction.
00:40:40.080 Now, when Bedfordshire police come to court, they told the court, he's no risk.
00:40:45.080 He does nothing wrong.
00:40:46.080 He only comes to football with his family.
00:40:49.080 We don't worry about him at all.
00:40:51.080 We do not need to ban him.
00:40:52.080 And because of that, the government's case was thrown out.
00:40:55.080 But in this case, the judge has completely sided with their policing, which is insane.
00:41:02.080 Because essentially, we're not a free country.
00:41:05.080 We are a police state.
00:41:07.080 You know, Tommy, I referred earlier to some parts of the deep south in the United States
00:41:13.080 before the civil rights movement where black families were treated roughly by the police
00:41:20.080 that the police would like, say, get out of town or get off the bus or get off this whites
00:41:26.080 only restaurant in the segregated south I'm talking about.
00:41:29.080 And that era is regarded as an unfair blight on American history.
00:41:37.080 And I think it was.
00:41:38.080 I don't think, especially for the public authorities to treat black people as second class citizens.
00:41:44.080 Here we are in 2019 and the cops are ordering a peaceful man and his children to leave an establishment
00:41:55.080 and then to leave the city.
00:41:57.080 And if you were black and if that were in Mississippi, that would be straight out of Mississippi burning.
00:42:04.080 If this would have happened to any minority family in Britain with their children crying and terrified, this would be well new.
00:42:14.080 This would be well.
00:42:15.080 But this hasn't just happened.
00:42:17.080 I've got to pay 38 grand.
00:42:19.080 Yeah.
00:42:20.080 What?
00:42:21.080 Yeah.
00:42:22.080 It's mental.
00:42:23.080 It's mental.
00:42:24.080 I've got to go home now, Ezra, and tell my children.
00:42:27.080 Because remember what happened that day?
00:42:29.080 They know it's going on in court.
00:42:30.080 Well, it was fair.
00:42:32.080 Yeah.
00:42:33.080 What does that tell the kids about the police system in this country?
00:42:36.080 Now, Tommy, it's been a while since I practiced law.
00:42:38.080 I no longer am a practicing lawyer.
00:42:41.080 But back 15 years ago when I took some matters to trial, if a party in a lawsuit deletes evidence,
00:42:52.080 if they have evidence and they delete it, throw it out, hide it, the court in Canada, and I don't know the law over there,
00:42:58.080 takes an adverse inference, which means if you delete something and hide it from the court, the court wants to punish you for deleting it,
00:43:07.080 so they assume you're hiding something bad.
00:43:10.080 Because no one hides something good, right?
00:43:13.080 The police video cop, the videographer, who followed your family down the road as they frog marched you to the railway station,
00:43:23.080 he videoed that whole thing, and we showed that clip earlier.
00:43:26.080 He testified, I was there in court, when he said he just deleted it, he said he thought it had no value as evidence, it wasn't interesting,
00:43:35.080 he didn't even remember when he deleted it, he might have deleted it the next day.
00:43:38.080 Did the judge say anything about that in her judgment?
00:43:42.080 In her judgment, she said that he didn't see any relevance to it.
00:43:47.080 Now, he's an intel officer, which means what he videos is for intelligent.
00:43:51.080 It then goes into an intelligent system.
00:43:54.080 It doesn't, it's intel.
00:43:56.080 He's an intel officer.
00:43:57.080 He only videos for intelligent.
00:43:59.080 So that would have gone into an intel officer system, but he says he deleted it after 24 hours.
00:44:04.080 And Ezra, I'm telling you, they sat in court and said that I over-exaggerated.
00:44:08.080 I didn't need to over-exaggerate.
00:44:09.080 My daughter was terrified, and she nearly ran into a road because of your police's action.
00:44:13.080 And then you're, and I'm sat in there, and you're making out like I'm the liar, and then I've got to pay you money.
00:44:19.080 The only thing that I take a little bit of, a little bit from this,
00:44:24.080 is that it completely exposes the entire system to everyone who's seen that video of my children.
00:44:29.080 To see that they've defended that action, just show.
00:44:32.080 If I wasn't Tommy Robinson, that there'd have been a payout today.
00:44:36.080 If I wasn't Tommy Robinson, I believe that judge truthfully would have said this is wrong.
00:44:41.080 Yeah.
00:44:42.080 Truthfully, 100%.
00:44:43.080 No one can watch that video and not agree it's wrong.
00:44:45.080 Yeah.
00:44:46.080 But if she says it's wrong with me, I walk out of court and it proves police have targeted me.
00:44:51.080 It proves that I've been harassed.
00:44:53.080 Yeah.
00:44:54.080 It proves all the other cases and all the other things I've got coming up.
00:44:56.080 It proves all those points, and it lays the foundation for the rest of them.
00:44:59.080 So if I'm not agreeing, and to be honest, when we talk about the establishment in this country,
00:45:04.080 that lady, that judge, would have gone to the same school as the prosecutor.
00:45:09.080 They are all part of the same club.
00:45:11.080 And all of them come from a tough, middle-class view, where they look down their noses upon us.
00:45:18.080 And we're viewed, as you saw in the panadrama documentary.
00:45:22.080 Yeah.
00:45:23.080 There is a classist system in this country.
00:45:25.080 And that's partly the problem.
00:45:27.080 But we're not in that.
00:45:28.080 We're not in the club.
00:45:29.080 Yeah.
00:45:30.080 Well, Tommy, I want to talk to you about that.
00:45:32.080 And if you want to talk to me privately about this instead, just say so.
00:45:35.080 I'm not looking to put you on the spot.
00:45:37.080 But there were certain things I think your team, and by that I mean your lawyer, Alison Gurdon,
00:45:44.080 like the landlady was not summoned to give testimony.
00:45:47.080 Your friends were not summoned.
00:45:49.080 And I think you just told us that you paid your lawyer £10,000.
00:45:53.080 Now, I know from paying your legal bills in the past.
00:45:56.080 It should be £40,000, I know.
00:45:59.080 I mean, we have spent, I'm not going to say it in public, but we hired a dream.
00:46:03.080 Do you know what it is?
00:46:04.080 Do you know what it is?
00:46:05.080 When I started this legal case, this was two years ago.
00:46:07.080 I didn't have the public support that I've got now.
00:46:09.080 So I didn't have the support then to go sit down with the best QCs and the best legal
00:46:13.080 teams.
00:46:14.080 It just was not a possibility two years ago when this happened.
00:46:18.080 So yeah, their legal fees are £40,000 because they pulled in the top point.
00:46:23.080 Well, I want you to make me a promise that in the future, your litigation, that you're
00:46:28.080 not going to be, as they say in the UK, penny-wise and pound-foolish.
00:46:33.080 No, I won't, mate.
00:46:34.080 I won't.
00:46:35.080 Hopefully, as I said, I've got one obstacle to get out of the way now, and this is a £38,000
00:46:40.080 bill.
00:46:41.080 I'd love to appeal it.
00:46:42.080 I hate the fact that we've got to pay £18,000 or £38,000 or whatever it is to there.
00:46:48.080 I would rather have raised £38,000.
00:46:49.080 The Cambridge Police.
00:46:50.080 Yeah, well, I would rather.
00:46:52.080 I was sitting there thinking, I'm not going to pay it.
00:46:54.080 Yeah.
00:46:55.080 And I'd rather go to jail than pay it.
00:46:57.080 No, don't.
00:46:58.080 Don't.
00:46:59.080 Don't.
00:47:00.080 Don't.
00:47:01.080 Don't.
00:47:02.080 Don't go to jail.
00:47:03.080 Piss me off.
00:47:04.080 Don't go to jail.
00:47:05.080 Nah.
00:47:06.080 I would rather have paid the £38,000 to your lawyers and hired a group of ninjas.
00:47:10.080 I know.
00:47:11.080 I know.
00:47:12.080 All right, I'll stop.
00:47:13.080 I'm not here to lecture you, my friend.
00:47:14.080 I just, it's on my mind, and some of your viewers might be on my mind.
00:47:17.080 I'm your friend and ally.
00:47:18.080 You know that, and we're going to give you some dough from what we're doing here.
00:47:22.080 Thank you to the folks chipping in.
00:47:24.080 Nah, cheers.
00:47:25.080 And we're, give us, let me ask you two more questions.
00:47:28.080 Can you stay at the side of the road there for a couple more minutes?
00:47:30.080 Do you have a few more minutes with us?
00:47:31.080 Yeah.
00:47:32.080 Yeah, go on, mate.
00:47:33.080 Okay.
00:47:34.080 I see from what Freddie was blogging, Freddie from Cambridgeshire Live, he said that you
00:47:41.080 stood up to make a comment afterwards, but the judge said you can't.
00:47:45.080 Can you tell us a little bit of what happened there?
00:47:48.080 No.
00:47:49.080 Yeah, I said, I said, at the end, I just said, I'd just like to thank you, because anybody
00:47:54.080 who can watch that footage and defend those police actions, you've played your part today,
00:47:59.080 but not in getting justice, in exposing the corruption of this system to the British
00:48:04.080 public.
00:48:05.080 That's what I said to her in court.
00:48:06.080 And did the judge let you say that, or did she shut you down?
00:48:09.080 Nah, I said it, yeah.
00:48:10.080 I said it, and then she just walked out.
00:48:12.080 She walked out.
00:48:13.080 And can I ask what the reaction was from other people in the court?
00:48:17.080 Were the police all there?
00:48:19.080 The police were there.
00:48:20.080 They didn't gloat.
00:48:21.080 They didn't.
00:48:22.080 They just all sat in silence.
00:48:24.080 Yeah.
00:48:25.080 And how about angry Adam Clemens, the rotund lawyer for the police?
00:48:31.080 And I'm saying rotund because we had a little banter back and forth.
00:48:33.080 He didn't either.
00:48:34.080 He didn't either, to be honest.
00:48:35.080 And then when I got told I'd pay 38,000 pounds, I have to tell you, I laughed my head off,
00:48:42.080 I don't know who else.
00:48:43.080 I'm like, are you for real?
00:48:44.080 Yeah.
00:48:45.080 Really?
00:48:46.080 And how about your supporters in the gallery?
00:48:47.080 I should note that for some bizarre reason, the court was not letting in your supporters.
00:48:52.080 There were 19 empty seats one day, 23 empty seats the other day I counted.
00:48:57.080 And the court wouldn't let your supporters in.
00:48:59.080 And the judge said, I don't want it to be over full.
00:49:02.080 And I thought over full, the chairs are there.
00:49:04.080 Over full is if you have 50 chairs and 51 people.
00:49:07.080 People setting up.
00:49:08.080 Over full is not 50 chairs, but you only let in 37 people.
00:49:11.080 Do you know that from the start of this trial, they had a hired paid protection police officer?
00:49:16.080 The man with the bit in his ear?
00:49:18.080 Yeah.
00:49:19.080 He was a protection officer for the judge.
00:49:22.080 So straight away from the start of this trial, she's been told you've got personal protection
00:49:26.080 against violence.
00:49:27.080 As though somehow a court case with me is going to lead to her being violently attacked.
00:49:31.080 That's straight away putting her head from the start of this case.
00:49:34.080 Yeah.
00:49:35.080 Straight away.
00:49:36.080 What did your supporters say?
00:49:37.080 I enjoyed the chance to get to meet some of them in person when I was out there.
00:49:41.080 Did you commiserate with them at all?
00:49:42.080 Did you talk with them at all?
00:49:43.080 Yeah.
00:49:44.080 I think they were just shocked.
00:49:45.080 And it was a shock.
00:49:46.080 Just like, cause everyone's watched the video is right.
00:49:47.080 Everyone's watched the video.
00:49:48.080 It's not like, it's my word.
00:49:49.080 It's like, in fact, when you listen to their statements, anyone who watched the video, their
00:49:50.080 statements, all three of them say, I was heavily, I was drunk, drunk and disorderly.
00:49:51.080 I wasn't clearly.
00:49:52.080 And I was swearing constantly at, I didn't swear once when you watch the footage.
00:50:07.080 So we know they lied, you lied.
00:50:09.080 All three of you lied in your statements.
00:50:11.080 All of you lied in your statements.
00:50:12.080 The police made no comment on that.
00:50:16.080 It didn't matter that they lied.
00:50:17.080 It's just a complete, for me, it's a stitch up.
00:50:20.080 I just hope the public have seen it, sir.
00:50:23.080 Yeah.
00:50:24.080 And now, I don't know, man.
00:50:25.080 Listen, stay with us for a few minutes.
00:50:27.080 Cause there's a lot of people online.
00:50:28.080 There's 5,000 watching.
00:50:29.080 And I know you often get 10,000 before they shut you down on Facebook, which makes me really
00:50:35.080 mad.
00:50:36.080 But stay online because folks, I saw someone just say, is the money going to Tommy?
00:50:40.080 And the answer is yes.
00:50:42.080 When I was in Peterborough.
00:50:44.080 Yeah.
00:50:45.080 Yeah.
00:50:46.080 Ezra said, cause I've been shut down.
00:50:49.080 Ezra said that through the super chats that he'd hold a super chat where I could talk
00:50:54.080 to people after the case and he'd throw the money towards a piece.
00:50:58.080 But that wasn't, that wasn't us thinking there's going to be 38,000 pound piece.
00:51:01.080 No.
00:51:02.080 That was a 10,000 pound we've spent so far.
00:51:04.080 Yeah.
00:51:05.080 Not 38,000.
00:51:06.080 So I'm just saying that because I see some people saying what's with the super chats
00:51:10.080 and Tommy and I had actually planned to do this because we didn't know what was going
00:51:14.080 on.
00:51:15.080 All right.
00:51:16.080 Well, let's stay on the line.
00:51:17.080 Can you, can you give us another 10 minutes, Tommy?
00:51:20.080 Can you stay for another 10 minutes?
00:51:21.080 Yeah.
00:51:22.080 Okay.
00:51:23.080 I'm going to Antwerp tomorrow.
00:51:25.080 You're going to Antwerp.
00:51:26.080 That's, that's in Belgium.
00:51:27.080 Am I right?
00:51:28.080 Yeah.
00:51:29.080 With Philip de Winter for a free speech rally.
00:51:32.080 So anyone who's in Europe, try and get there.
00:51:35.080 Is, and is there a website we can tell people to visit?
00:51:38.080 Philip de Winter, is that what you said?
00:51:40.080 Philip de Winter, yeah.
00:51:41.080 See, I'll send you a link if you want to put it out.
00:51:43.080 It's the, I can't say the word.
00:51:44.080 I can't say the word.
00:51:45.080 Okay.
00:51:46.080 I'll tweet it later.
00:51:47.080 You can send it to me later.
00:51:48.080 So you're giving a free speech talk in Antwerp.
00:51:50.080 Can I ask you about your contempt of court matter?
00:51:53.080 Do you have any news you can share publicly?
00:51:55.080 That's I think the scarier one.
00:51:57.080 I do.
00:51:58.080 That is that not 100%, but it is highly likely that on Monday I will find out the cases
00:52:05.080 again been moved.
00:52:06.080 So it's not going to be on the 22nd.
00:52:09.080 We understand it's probably going to be at the end of April, but I don't know that.
00:52:13.080 I only found this out last night at a meeting with my legals to say that it looks like,
00:52:17.080 due to legal, whatever legal reasons, the case is not going to be heard on Friday.
00:52:21.080 In fact, I won't even have to go to court at all next Friday.
00:52:25.080 But the trial is going ahead.
00:52:27.080 I am being prosecuted for causing anxiety to the 10 Muslim rapists, child rapists who
00:52:34.080 are all in jail now.
00:52:35.080 They, that, according to the attorney general, the government, no one can no longer say this
00:52:40.080 is not politically motivated.
00:52:42.080 This is not the police prosecute.
00:52:44.080 This is the government.
00:52:45.080 The attorney general has forced prosecution against me.
00:52:48.080 The trial will go to a high court judge who will then decide whether he's going to let
00:52:52.080 him try, which he will, because we know the systems like this.
00:52:55.080 So he will then try me and I will be charged with causing anxiety because apparently these
00:53:00.080 Muslim rapists should be free from fear of molestation when entering court trial.
00:53:06.080 Yeah.
00:53:07.080 Well, Tommy.
00:53:08.080 I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't scare them.
00:53:11.080 Yeah.
00:53:12.080 I simply asked them a simple question.
00:53:13.080 How do you feel about your sentence?
00:53:15.080 That's it.
00:53:16.080 Yeah.
00:53:17.080 Well, and the irony is, I mean, I came to court with you, uh, two of the three days I arrived
00:53:20.080 in your vehicle with you and there was a group of mainstream media journalists there
00:53:25.080 and they pounced on pounced, uh, Mr. Robinson.
00:53:28.080 What about this?
00:53:29.080 Tommy, what about that?
00:53:30.080 So that's just normal.
00:53:31.080 I mean, I don't even see a problem with that.
00:53:33.080 Frankly.
00:53:34.080 I mean, it's a public court.
00:53:35.080 We live in a democracy, a free press.
00:53:37.080 Good.
00:53:38.080 So the idea that you would be prosecuted for contempt of court for asking someone a question
00:53:44.080 when his trial was over, by the way, but that happens to, I saw it with my own eyes happen
00:53:48.080 to you.
00:53:49.080 And of course, none of the reporters.
00:53:50.080 Happened to yesterday.
00:53:51.080 Happened to yesterday.
00:53:52.080 Two year prison sentence.
00:53:53.080 It's a two year prison sentence that I'm looking at.
00:53:56.080 Yeah.
00:53:57.080 Now, now I wouldn't say, I wouldn't always say the world's watching.
00:53:59.080 They can't do that.
00:54:00.080 They can do whatever they want.
00:54:03.080 And the lengths they will go to.
00:54:05.080 You've seen it.
00:54:06.080 Everyone's seen it.
00:54:07.080 They don't care that the world's watching.
00:54:09.080 They generally do not care.
00:54:11.080 They are in power.
00:54:12.080 They will maintain power.
00:54:13.080 They don't care about Brexit.
00:54:15.080 They don't care about the fact that everyone's seen the video of the police harassing my family.
00:54:19.080 They don't give a shit.
00:54:20.080 They'll still find them not guilty.
00:54:22.080 They'll still prosecute me.
00:54:23.080 They'll still put me back in prison.
00:54:25.080 Unfortunately, for that case, like when I was released from prison, I was released from prison because of the legal team that I was given with the help of the people.
00:54:35.080 And when I go back to fight this one, I will go in with a great legal defense.
00:54:39.080 And that's the only chance I have.
00:54:42.080 Well, Tom, I got one more question for you.
00:54:44.080 And I thank you.
00:54:45.080 And I know you got to get back.
00:54:46.080 Ben, you've pulled over to the side of the road, so you won't be arrested on some trumped up charge.
00:54:51.080 I mean, you wouldn't want to do a live stream while you're driving anyways.
00:54:55.080 I want to ask you one more question because, of course, our UK viewers especially will remember that you did a demo, a street demonstration a couple of months ago called Brexit Betrayal.
00:55:07.080 I'm shifting gears here, but folks, keep chipping in on the Super Chat.
00:55:11.080 As I promised Tommy when I met him in the UK this week that we were going to help him cover his legal fees and that Super Chat money, we actually get to keep 70% of that from YouTube.
00:55:23.080 So go ahead and keep hitting that button.
00:55:25.080 Tommy and I spoke about this the other day.
00:55:27.080 Tommy, I want to shift gears away from the trial just for a minute because you led a Brexit betrayal demo with the leader of UKIP, Gerard Batten, a couple of months ago.
00:55:39.080 We got some footage of that on the screen right now.
00:55:41.080 It's very exciting.
00:55:43.080 But it looks like...
00:55:46.080 It looks like...
00:55:47.080 Brexit's being betrayed, by the way.
00:55:48.080 Yeah, give me an update.
00:55:50.080 The update, Brexit's being betrayed.
00:55:52.080 They're going to delay it.
00:55:54.080 The European Union have already said that the delay discussions could go on for four years.
00:55:58.080 This is just Brexit betrayal.
00:56:00.080 And there's now plans.
00:56:01.080 The day we were supposed to leave, or we're meant to leave, of Article 50, is the 29th of this month.
00:56:06.080 It's Friday the 29th.
00:56:07.080 But now I know that I'm about to organise.
00:56:10.080 Now I know I'm not in court next week on the 22nd.
00:56:12.080 I'm going to ask people to come to London on the 29th, the weekend after, the Friday after, for a mass rally against the Brexit betrayal.
00:56:20.080 And the link they're going to go to, you can see it.
00:56:25.080 We're not getting break.
00:56:26.080 I truthfully now believe we are not going to get break.
00:56:29.080 And it's unbelievable.
00:56:32.080 And the anger and frustration that is growing in this country.
00:56:35.080 We don't have...
00:56:36.080 We live in a police state, and we do not have a democracy.
00:56:39.080 We voted to leave.
00:56:42.080 We voted already.
00:56:43.080 We voted already.
00:56:44.080 Yeah.
00:56:45.080 Well, that's incredible.
00:56:46.080 Well, listen, Tommy, I appreciate you taking...
00:56:48.080 Like, I just called you out of the blue there, because I was...
00:56:50.080 I thought, well, it looks like it's done.
00:56:51.080 I'm just going to phone Tommy.
00:56:53.080 And I handed the phone to Alex, and Justin hooked you up.
00:56:55.080 So thanks, everybody, for making that happen.
00:56:58.080 Cool, man.
00:56:59.080 Anything else you want to tell our people?
00:57:00.080 We've...
00:57:01.080 It looks like we've raised...
00:57:02.080 I haven't kept a tally.
00:57:03.080 We've probably raised a thousand pounds here for you.
00:57:06.080 And I understand.
00:57:07.080 And we know we got to pay 38,000.
00:57:10.080 We'll talk more about that.
00:57:12.080 But keep on hitting that, guys, if you want to help.
00:57:14.080 Give us one last word.
00:57:15.080 You've...
00:57:16.080 I'm guessing that two thirds of the viewers right now are from the UK, and the rest are split
00:57:21.080 between Canada, the US, Australia, and there's some continental Europeans, of course.
00:57:25.080 Do you have a message, if you had to sum things up?
00:57:28.080 Is there a warning you have for the world?
00:57:31.080 Is there a lesson here?
00:57:32.080 Is there a...
00:57:33.080 Do you have any encouragement?
00:57:34.080 Do you have any encouragement?
00:57:35.080 Canada, Canada, America, protect your freedom.
00:57:39.080 Ours have gone.
00:57:41.080 And it's only going to get worse.
00:57:44.080 Now, when we say encouragement, the only encouragement is the fight goes on.
00:57:49.080 It does not stop.
00:57:50.080 It doesn't stop here.
00:57:51.080 Will I be deterred not to take a prison lawsuit because of this action?
00:57:54.080 No, I won't.
00:57:55.080 Will I be deterred not to appeal this?
00:57:57.080 No, I won't.
00:57:58.080 I want to fight this.
00:57:59.080 The public can see on that video how wrong this is.
00:58:02.080 Now, if I...
00:58:03.080 What today proves is the corruption of the system.
00:58:06.080 Today doesn't prove the police acted within the law.
00:58:08.080 It doesn't prove that.
00:58:09.080 Everyone can see the video.
00:58:10.080 It just proves that the whole entire system is corrupt.
00:58:13.080 But, and if I had any words to everyone, it would be thank you, every single one of you, for your continued support throughout everything and all of it.
00:58:21.080 Yeah.
00:58:22.080 And unfortunately, every time we think it's about a low down and there's going to be a bit of a chill out period, there's not.
00:58:27.080 It just goes bang every time.
00:58:29.080 So, God knows what's next, but no one thing.
00:58:32.080 We will all fight it together.
00:58:34.080 Thank you.
00:58:35.080 All right, Tommy.
00:58:36.080 Well, thanks for pulling over.
00:58:38.080 Great to see you.
00:58:39.080 I'm going to say goodbye to you now, but everybody else stay on because we're going to talk.
00:58:43.080 We're going to keep going for another six minutes and just wrap things up.
00:58:47.080 Tommy, stay safe, mate, and we'll talk to you more.
00:58:50.080 All right.
00:58:51.080 Bye-bye.
00:58:52.080 Bye.
00:58:53.080 Well, there you have it.
00:58:54.080 Tommy Robinson, live from his vehicle.
00:58:55.080 He pulled over to the side of the road and he corrected me.
00:58:58.080 I thought he had to pay 20,000 pounds.
00:59:01.080 He confirms that it's 38,000 pounds.
00:59:05.080 I just typed that into the currency converter.
00:59:08.080 That is exactly 50,000 U.S. dollars.
00:59:13.080 And for my Canadian friends and Australia, our currencies are the same.
00:59:18.080 That's $67,000 on top of Tommy's own legal fees.
00:59:35.080 Well, that's the show for today.
00:59:37.080 I'd love your thoughts on Tommy's trial.
00:59:39.080 Am I too forgiving of Tommy's boisterous interaction with the police?
00:59:43.080 See, I come from a place where everyone is very respectful of the police
00:59:46.080 because the police are universally respected.
00:59:49.080 They would never, I just can't even imagine growing up in Calgary,
00:59:53.080 if I was a kid and my dad would have taken the family out to a restaurant,
00:59:57.080 the cops coming in and saying,
00:59:59.080 Dr. Levant, you and your family get out of the restaurant right now.
01:00:03.080 Like I can't even imagine that universe.
01:00:05.080 And I have no idea what my father would have done back then.
01:00:08.080 I don't know what I would do right now other than say,
01:00:10.080 who the hell are you?
01:00:12.080 I would be pretty irate if I was with my family, not drunk, not doing anything wrong.
01:00:16.080 If the landlady came over and said, leave him alone, I would be irate too.
01:00:19.080 And if they then followed me down the street with a video camera on my kids
01:00:23.080 and my kids started to cry and it was just, yeah, I'd be pretty irate too.
01:00:27.080 And to have this policing vindicated.
01:00:30.080 And actually Tommy has to pay them.
01:00:32.080 That's crazy to me.
01:00:33.080 That's crazy to me.
01:00:34.080 But the craziest part is the law that allows this.
01:00:37.080 That section 35 anti-social behavior law.
01:00:40.080 And the fact that every journalist there is just fine with all this.
01:00:44.080 And they're good little licensed poodles and they want to show you just how licensed they are.
01:00:49.080 All right, that's our show for today.
01:00:51.080 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,
01:00:54.080 to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.