Rebel News Podcast - Tommy Robinson's 2019 in review

00:00:00.000 Tonight, we're in Canada, but we fight for freedom around the world.

00:00:19.080 Today, a retrospective of our work with Tommy Robinson.

00:00:23.280 It's Christmas Day, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:26.360 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:32.280 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:36.380 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:56.360 It's my secret cause, but journalists want a loud report, but you don't really care for freedom, do ya?

00:01:06.480 And I'm standing in the streets of central London, not far away from the Old Bailey Central Criminal Courts,

00:01:34.720 where tomorrow, Tommy Robinson will be prosecuted yet again for contempt of court.

00:01:40.380 When I say yet again, it's not for anything new.

00:01:43.520 It's for what he did a year ago, for which he was already found in contempt,

00:01:48.440 and then released by the UK Court of Appeal in a unanimous ruling that said the first finding of contempt was improper, illegal.

00:01:56.980 Tommy falsely was prosecuted and falsely served 10 weeks in solitary confinement.

00:02:02.960 As you know, we crowdfunded his legal defense a year ago, but instead of leaving good enough alone,

00:02:08.560 Theresa May's attorney general has chosen to take a second crack at it. 1.00

00:02:14.260 Now, where I come from, in the United States, that might be called double jeopardy.

00:02:18.500 I guess they don't have that here because they're taking another run at him.

00:02:22.160 You know, Tommy was the first journalist to be sentenced to prison for contempt of court since the 1940s,

00:02:28.440 but I guess that's not enough punishment for Theresa May. 0.94

00:02:32.440 They want to put him back in.

00:02:33.700 It's rather incredible to me.

00:02:35.800 But just as incredible is how blasé the United Kingdom is about the whole thing.

00:02:41.320 I don't know a single member of Parliament that found it odious that a journalist was imprisoned.

00:02:48.280 Even when the Court of Appeal said it was improper, I didn't hear a peep.

00:02:52.280 Only Lord Pearson of Rannock, one member of the House of Lords, spoke out.

00:02:57.200 But other than that, silence from the political class.

00:03:00.680 Actually, that's not even accurate.

00:03:02.240 Glee from the political class when Tommy was arrested.

00:03:05.880 You'd think that Reporters Without Borders or some other civil liberty types would care. 1.00

00:03:10.600 They didn't.

00:03:11.360 I didn't see a single article by any worthy pundit worrying about journalists being imprisoned.

00:03:18.200 Listen, I'm really worried about the reporting as much as the law, and that's why I'm here in town and bringing with me eight other journalists, actually, from other jurisdictions.

00:03:29.900 Because I don't know of any journalists in the United Kingdom, at least in the mainstream media, who give Tommy a fair shake.

00:03:36.300 And forget about Tommy, who report accurately on these grave matters at hand.

00:03:41.260 My charge, my charge that I'm being brought back in a politically motivated case by the Attorney General, the Theresa May's government.

00:03:51.860 They sat on this case for five months. 0.97

00:03:55.420 The charge I face is that I caused anxiety to the Muslim paedophiles that have been convicted of raping young girls. 0.97

00:04:04.960 All of these journalists here today, all of these journalists with your cameras, my charge was for taking a photo. 0.97

00:04:13.620 My charge was for asking them how they felt.

00:04:16.580 Exactly what every one of you just done to me right now.

00:04:21.080 The law is equal.

00:04:22.560 I think I'll give a proper speech when I come back out.

00:04:30.140 I want to say thank you to everyone who's come down here today.

00:04:33.620 A message, a simple, a simple message, a message to the fake news media.

00:04:41.760 Your freedoms are at risk as well.

00:04:44.480 It's your freedoms that they're trying in here today.

00:04:47.060 The ability to take a photo of someone walking into court.

00:04:51.280 That's what you've all just done to me.

00:04:53.140 That's what I face prosecution for today.

00:05:00.260 And never miss.

00:05:03.480 Never miss a photo opportunity. Vote for me.

00:05:25.740 I am standing amidst a boisterous crowd outside the Old Bailey Central Criminal Courts in central London.

00:05:34.500 I'd say there's about 500 people on the pro-Tommy side.

00:05:38.640 And looking up the street, I see about two dozen Antifa and Jeremy Corbyn laborites all with their prefab signs.

00:05:48.020 On this side, a much more organic grassroots protest.

00:05:51.520 Those are the professional protesters, but of course the real problem is not the banter or the debate on the streets.

00:05:58.320 I don't think it's going to get violent, although it has in the past.

00:06:01.720 Antifa's tactics is de-platforming and violence where possible.

00:06:06.340 There's a lot of police. You can see the police in the yellow vest here.

00:06:09.840 I think there'll be excellent order.

00:06:11.960 You don't want to riot outside the central criminal courts.

00:06:14.680 I think the main problem is inside the courts itself.

00:06:19.000 Because why are we here today?

00:06:21.520 We're here because Theresa May's Attorney General has chosen to re-prosecute Tommy Robinson again for the same incident for which he was held in contempt a year ago outside the county court in Leeds, UK.

00:06:37.400 Just a quick reminder, Tommy was live streaming from his phone on Facebook about a rape gang trial of more than two dozen men.

00:06:46.740 The jury had finished their deliberations. It was judgment day.

00:06:49.940 Tommy was outside the court, didn't talk about any details inside the court.

00:06:54.180 All he did was read the names of the accused, and he read them from the BBC State Broadcaster website.

00:06:59.660 But for that offense, or some other offense, we're not quite sure, a squad of police swooped him.

00:07:04.720 You've seen the footage.

00:07:05.940 Grabbed him, put him in the back of the truck, took him to a police station, took him to court in a less than 10-minute trial in which Tommy himself didn't have a word to speak.

00:07:14.400 He was sentenced to 13 months in prison, packed off to prison that day, and was shortly thereafter transferred to a high-risk prison dominated by Muslim gangs itself. 0.63

00:07:26.120 Tommy had to be put in solitary confinement for his own safety, said the warden of the prison, where he was starved because, of course, the Muslim gangs also ran the kitchens. 1.00

00:07:35.880 As you know, Rebel viewers crowdfunded the legal appeal.

00:07:40.640 The court of appeal led by no one less than the Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales himself issued a scathing rebuke of that decision to imprison Tommy, and he was freed thanks to Rebel viewers.

00:07:53.280 You would think that that would be enough.

00:07:56.160 You would think that that would have humiliated the establishment enough to have been exposed as be so abusive.

00:08:02.180 But no, Jeffrey Cox, Theresa May's new Attorney General, has made the positive decision to re-prosecute Tommy for that original event.

00:08:11.180 First of all, I'll just call you in on what's happened today.

00:08:39.300 And the fake news media have started already.

00:08:43.580 And any of the journalists that are in court today, you sat and listened.

00:08:48.140 I just read the Standard News report.

00:08:51.580 Get it up. 0.61

00:08:53.380 The Standard News report says that I jeopardise the trial of men who have raped children.

00:09:01.120 The charges I now face on the 4th of July in a two-day trial have completely changed from the original.

00:09:13.840 They've changed three times.

00:09:15.740 The charges I now face, and let me tell you why they've changed.

00:09:18.660 On the 21st of November, before a High Court judge, one of the Muslim paedophiles, serving time in HMP Leeds, appealed his conviction.

00:09:29.820 He appealed his conviction on the basis that Tommy Robinson prejudiced the trial.

00:09:36.040 The High Court judge refused his appeal.

00:09:43.740 The High Court judge said that I never prejudiced any trial.

00:09:49.700 Who is the bull to send into the European Union's China shop and just bash it up?

00:09:56.720 Tommy Robinson, I think.

00:09:58.300 Now, he's not a reckless smasher like that bull is.

00:10:01.860 Tommy has a real message.

00:10:03.100 He has a coherent message and an ideology, and he has a track record, and he has a mission.

00:10:07.720 But his style, well, here's a dramatic Tommy moment that I think more than a few Brits might be happy to see him do, metaphorically speaking, to the European Union.

00:10:18.100 This was when Tommy was in Rome.

00:10:20.020 Now, he wasn't working for us then.

00:10:21.820 He was on his own, independent journalism.

00:10:24.820 And he was threatened by a migrant who actually threatened to kill Tommy. 0.94

00:10:31.140 Watch this.

00:10:33.100 Yeah, that's about two seconds.

00:10:39.100 I think Tommy can do that to the EU.

00:10:43.340 I like Nigel Farage, and I think he's going to be great in the European Union.

00:10:47.340 I like Tommy even more, and I think he's going to be like a blowtorch to the political correctness in there.

00:10:52.680 He's going to smack him, metaphorically.

00:10:56.120 But can he really win?

00:10:58.160 Can he win?

00:10:58.960 Well, that's the thing.

00:11:01.460 There are eight members of the European Parliament to be selected from the northwest of England.

00:11:08.380 That's around Manchester.

00:11:09.300 And it is not a first-past-the-post system.

00:11:13.460 It's sort of a mathematical way of counting votes.

00:11:15.980 The top vote-getter wins, gets one MEP, and then that party's votes are divided by two, and then they check, and the next top vote-getter wins, and then their vote is divided by two, for it's the same party is divided by three.

00:11:28.480 I'm not going to take you through the whole system.

00:11:31.080 It's actually quite ingenious, but long story short, let me tell you how the story ends.

00:11:37.360 You can win and become a member of the European Parliament in northwest England with less than 10% of the vote.

00:11:45.280 In the last election, in 2014, 1.75 million people voted in that electoral region, and it took 160,000 votes to win one of the eight seats.

00:11:57.300 In the previous elections, in 2009, 1.65 million people voted in northwest England.

00:12:03.580 It took 132,000 votes to win.

00:12:06.220 That's 8%.

00:12:07.700 Can Tommy Robinson get 8% or 9% or 10% of the vote in northwest England?

00:12:16.400 Why, I do believe he can.

00:12:19.220 Now, it will be an uphill battle in some ways.

00:12:21.940 The entire media class is against him.

00:12:23.940 The entire political class is, too.

00:12:25.900 Nigel Farage won't even touch him.

00:12:27.380 The UKIP won't even let him run for them.

00:12:29.040 And the other parties would throw him in prison.

00:12:31.760 Labor and the conservatives would throw him in prison if they could.

00:12:34.020 In fact, the conservatives already did.

00:12:36.220 Police will likely harass him.

00:12:38.200 It wouldn't shock me if he was charged with some trumped-up charge, some stitch-up, just to get him off the streets like he was that day in Leeds.

00:12:45.080 Now, we here at the Rebels support Tommy, we always have.

00:12:47.340 But, of course, we're foreigners in the UK.

00:12:49.100 I'm a Canadian.

00:12:50.400 So, I can't vote.

00:12:51.760 I can't donate.

00:12:53.560 Now, if you're a Brit watching this, you can do both of those things.

00:12:56.180 And I encourage you to go to Tommy's website, votetommy.co.uk.

00:13:01.420 That's how they do it over there, .co.uk.

00:13:03.740 But there is one thing that we will be doing as a company.

00:13:07.020 We will be reporting on the campaign fairly.

00:13:10.520 I'm Jessica Spentanoffsky with The Rebel.

00:13:13.060 Here in the UK, Tommy Robinson's campaign has moved to Olden, which is a heavily Muslim-populated area.

00:13:21.580 The protesters are behind us.

00:13:23.980 Police did have to push them back.

00:13:25.460 They started with throwing eggs and actually going into the bins, and going into the trash bins, picking up models, and throwing it to the sides.

00:13:35.840 The protesters came, probably around 100 of them.

00:13:56.440 They started on one side, police did block them, and they actually came around the street to another corner, all running towards the rally, throwing eggs, throwing bottles that they're finding in bins lying around in front of the houses.

00:14:11.080 I even saw them throw some bricks at Tommy Robinson's crowd.

00:14:16.740 And what's crazy is that I don't see any media here.

00:14:41.780 I don't see anyone covering this, you're not going to see this, you're not going to hear about this, about the aggression from almost, definitely over 100 Muslim people pushing, trying to get to this side, throwing bricks, throwing glass bottles at women and children that are here for a political campaign rally.

00:15:00.700 Looking around, there's women in distress, there's women crying that were chased out of their cars when they saw them come in. 0.94

00:15:07.560 I hope this is because Tommy Robinson was holding a political campaign rally.

00:15:13.900 I've been on the campaign for them since this Tuesday, and before that they had no problem with us, there were some protesters at some of the events, there were some civil protesters, but nothing like this.

00:15:29.140 This is what happens when Tommy Robinson stepped into the building.

00:15:32.740 So we just got news that actually somebody got stabbed.

00:15:35.980 I don't have much information.

00:15:38.440 I don't know what side escalated the situation, but I am walking towards the crowd.

00:15:47.740 Step back here.

00:15:50.740 A kid?

00:15:53.140 It sounds like a child has actually been stabbed.

00:16:03.260 Police are trying to de-escalate the situation.

00:16:07.100 Riot police did show up, and I can tell the protest is dispersing, but it looks like they're actually just going to try another entrance towards the rally.

00:16:16.400 It doesn't look like they're giving up.

00:16:19.040 This is not a peaceful protest.

00:16:21.600 This is not paid protesters with signs.

00:16:24.320 These are angry, aggressive people looking to cause trouble.

00:16:28.520 They're not here to protest.

00:16:29.820 They're here to do something drastic.

00:16:32.700 Tommy did finish up his rally probably earlier than he intended, but he's worried about how people are actually going to get out of here.

00:16:39.180 They are surrounded.

00:16:40.600 There are police everywhere now trying to block the area so no more protesters get close enough.

00:16:45.020 So we had to get there out of there pretty quickly.

00:16:48.680 Tommy actually had all the families there take all the kids and put them into his van so they can get out of there safely.

00:16:56.220 We are on the move, but I am here in the UK to report on his campaign because the mainstream media wasn't there.

00:17:10.980 American?

00:17:12.420 Hello, Preston!

00:17:15.020 Are we voting this week?

00:17:18.080 Come on! 0.61

00:17:19.840 You see what you just watched there?

00:17:21.600 I bet many of you have already seen it.

00:17:22.960 Hopefully you've seen it.

00:17:24.700 There's censorship already.

00:17:26.620 This chat, this video has gone up on multiple different people's YouTube channels and it's been censored.

00:17:31.980 Age appropriate.

00:17:33.780 Can't be shared.

00:17:34.940 Can't be commented.

00:17:36.540 They don't want the public to see the reality.

00:17:38.620 This was orchestrated.

00:17:40.780 This was orchestrated.

00:17:40.840 You witnessed.

00:17:41.840 I started on that because we were set up round the corner in the middle of that estate.

00:17:47.840 And a lady who lives in the house next door come over and said, I'm sorry, but I watched your video in Oldham.

00:17:54.220 And I saw what happened.

00:17:55.820 Can you guarantee me that hundreds of masked up Balakarbad men are not going to come here and attack you?

00:18:02.260 I said, I can't.

00:18:03.460 I said, can you guarantee the police will stop them?

00:18:06.180 I said, I can't.

00:18:07.300 I said, well, I've got my children here.

00:18:09.140 I'm not part of this political rally and I don't feel safe.

00:18:12.360 The fact that people can't have political rallies without that level of fear is the reality of where we're at.

00:18:19.820 So we agreed to move.

00:18:21.340 The fact that all of you have watched that video and you've still come down, you're still standing here, sends everyone a message.

00:18:29.340 It sends them all a message.

00:18:33.340 And I blame this is probably the best crowd we've had all across the Northwest.

00:18:37.340 Look out, Preston.

00:18:43.340 I'm getting more and more confident as the days go on in this campaign.

00:18:47.340 We have a reporter here from the local newspaper.

00:18:59.340 Do we see?

00:19:01.340 No, no, no.

00:19:02.340 Let's see what comes out.

00:19:03.340 Do you see far right folks here?

00:19:05.340 Or do you see families and normal British people?

00:19:09.340 Please report.

00:19:11.340 Please report.

00:19:12.340 Please report what you see.

00:19:14.340 Please report what you see.

00:19:15.340 So you just finished up your final rally for your political campaign.

00:19:19.340 How are you feeling?

00:19:20.340 Are you excited?

00:19:21.340 Are you nervous for tomorrow for voting day?

00:19:22.340 I'm excited.

00:19:23.340 It's happening.

00:19:24.340 It's happening.

00:19:25.340 I hope I don't end up eating my words of this whole election campaign.

00:19:28.340 I'm excited.

00:19:29.340 The support, you've seen the support everywhere we go.

00:19:32.340 It's getting them voting.

00:19:33.340 And if we can do that, I also know what the future will bring.

00:19:36.340 I know we're going to inspire a generation of our people to get out and vote and to take back our country.

00:19:41.340 We've watched as it's been, it's rotten.

00:19:44.340 And we see so many traitors in parliament.

00:19:46.340 So I'm excited.

00:19:47.340 I'm excited.

00:19:48.340 I'm excited for myself.

00:19:49.340 I'm excited for every one of these people to feel that buzz.

00:19:51.340 I'm excited for people who aren't even from the Northwest, who are from our community, who are part of our movement, who are going to feel it and think they've done it.

00:19:57.340 We've done it.

00:19:58.340 I'm excited for the momentum that will build from this.

00:20:01.340 It'll be like a snowball.

00:20:02.340 I'm excited for what's going to happen after this.

00:20:04.340 And so every single rally so far has had hundreds of people.

00:20:07.340 Are you surprised with the amount of support you've been receiving?

00:20:09.340 I've seen the complete change over the years.

00:20:12.340 Do you know if people weren't scared?

00:20:14.340 If people didn't lose their job, we'd have thousands everywhere.

00:20:17.340 We'd fill football stadiums of people.

00:20:20.340 It's getting them to vote.

00:20:21.340 And tomorrow could be the day that shocks the world when people think, oh, my God.

00:20:24.340 So you're feeling confident?

00:20:26.340 I'm feeling confident.

00:20:27.340 I'm feeling confident.

00:20:29.340 We're getting with them.

00:20:31.340 We're having an election next.

00:20:32.340 Thanks for trying for us, darling.

00:20:35.340 Thanks for trying, Tommy.

00:20:37.340 Thank you.

00:20:38.340 I'm coming.

00:20:39.340 I'm coming.

00:20:41.340 I'm coming.

00:20:42.340 I'm coming.

00:20:43.340 I'm coming.

00:20:45.340 I'm coming.

00:20:47.340 Tommy, there's this.

00:20:49.340 You've got a nice feel with me.

00:20:51.340 Vote with ethics.

00:20:53.340 You tried.

00:20:55.340 I don't die. 1.00

00:20:56.340 I fucking move on ethics. 0.99

00:20:58.340 I'm getting fixed. 0.99

00:20:59.340 There's no way.

00:21:00.340 You've only got fixed.

00:21:01.340 You get in.

00:21:02.340 There's no way.

00:21:03.340 No way.

00:21:04.340 No way.

00:21:05.340 No way.

00:21:06.340 You're going to have up 25 venues, didn't you?

00:21:10.340 You missed me.

00:21:11.340 Yeah, yeah.

00:21:12.340 Go on, babe.

00:21:13.340 And then I've got to quickly go from here.

00:21:15.340 We do love the nods, Tommy.

00:21:17.340 Go on, darling.

00:21:18.340 Very good for us.

00:21:19.340 See you later, Danny.

00:21:20.340 Yeah, see you later, darling.

00:21:21.340 I've got all them sneaking out.

00:21:23.340 Tommy.

00:21:24.340 Yeah.

00:21:25.340 Are you talking?

00:21:26.340 No way.

00:21:28.340 No way.

00:21:29.340 No way.

00:21:30.340 No way.

00:21:31.340 No way.

00:21:32.340 Yeah, give me an amp.

00:21:33.340 No way.

00:21:34.340 Oh, Tommy, Tommy.

00:21:36.340 Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, Tommy Robinson.

00:21:39.340 Oh, Tommy, Tommy.

00:21:42.340 Tommy, Tommy, Tommy, Tommy Robinson.

00:21:46.340 Well, I'm here with the man of the hour himself, Tommy Robinson.

00:21:49.340 Tommy, not the result that you were hoping for that I thought you would get.

00:21:54.340 I think it comes down to you have been unpersoned.

00:21:58.340 It's complete.

00:21:59.340 I said censorship one, democracy nil.

00:22:01.340 How can you fight?

00:22:02.340 There's reasons why the election campaign, there's all these rules and laws to make it equal.

00:22:06.340 You can only spend the same as each other.

00:22:08.340 All these rules and regulations.

00:22:10.340 But in this campaign, my opposition could use social media.

00:22:13.340 They could do paid advertisement, which I couldn't.

00:22:15.340 I had organizations doing paid advertisement against me,

00:22:18.340 slandering, lying about me, demonize me.

00:22:20.340 And I couldn't even counter it.

00:22:22.340 It's still 40,000 votes is quite a lot.

00:22:24.340 It's a record for an independent candidate for the European Union elections.

00:22:28.340 And it was just in the one geographic region of Northwest England.

00:22:32.340 But it wasn't quite enough to punch through.

00:22:34.340 I have a theory that I heard someone on your campaign team say

00:22:40.340 is that because Nigel Farage was running with a very strong Brexit message,

00:22:45.340 and because the UKIP was still on the ballot, and Gerard Batten has been strong on some of the other issues,

00:22:50.340 like the Islamification, that maybe some of the Tommy vote dissipated to both of those parties.

00:22:57.340 I'd say multiple things like that.

00:22:58.340 Multiple things like many people wouldn't even have known I was running.

00:23:02.340 Many people wouldn't have voted.

00:23:03.340 Many people aren't registered to vote.

00:23:05.340 By the time we found out and got our leaflets printed,

00:23:07.340 by the time we went out, people only had two days to vote.

00:23:09.340 By the time we started campaigning.

00:23:10.340 And then to campaign, we couldn't reach people.

00:23:12.340 We had no social media.

00:23:13.340 When we tried to use Royal Mail to do leaflets,

00:23:16.340 they prevented and they blocked them and they didn't hand them out.

00:23:18.340 So we've been up against everything.

00:23:20.340 So all in all, look, we fought, we lost.

00:23:23.340 If we lost a fair fight, I'd stand there and swallow it.

00:23:26.340 But it wasn't a fair fight.

00:23:27.340 Ezra Levant here for the rebel.media.

00:23:29.340 I am at a reception of Tommy's most ardent supporters

00:23:32.340 the night before his hopefully final contempt of court hearing,

00:23:37.340 where he will hopefully finally beat the rap.

00:23:39.340 Tommy, it's been 14 months.

00:23:40.340 I've never heard of a contempt of court case lasting more than a year.

00:23:43.340 This is unprecedented.

00:23:45.340 Well, my lawyers believed it would have got kicked out at the last stage

00:23:48.340 for that one reason alone.

00:23:50.340 It's unfair to have it hanging over me.

00:23:52.340 It's been hanging over me for a year.

00:23:54.340 I think that's done on purpose.

00:23:55.340 You've read the case.

00:23:57.340 My lawyers are confident.

00:23:59.340 I've committed no crime.

00:24:00.340 I've broke no law.

00:24:01.340 So I hope I'm cleared tomorrow.

00:24:03.340 I hope that I can get on with my life.

00:24:05.340 I'm not confident.

00:24:06.340 I'm not confident.

00:24:07.340 My lawyers are.

00:24:08.340 As you said, this is the seventh time, seventh or eighth time,

00:24:11.340 I've been to court for this case.

00:24:13.340 I've never heard of that before.

00:24:14.340 Remember what this case is?

00:24:15.340 I held up my phone and I read public information.

00:24:17.340 That's my case.

00:24:18.340 And you had a general public commentary.

00:24:19.340 You weren't even in the rape gang trial.

00:24:21.340 You couldn't have spoken about details of the trial

00:24:24.340 because you weren't in there.

00:24:25.340 No.

00:24:26.340 And my crime, which I find so shocking,

00:24:30.340 is that my charge is that I could have,

00:24:32.340 the perceived chance that I could have caused anxiety 0.97

00:24:36.340 to the now convicted Muslim rapists. 1.00

00:24:38.340 And the wording on their charge is that these Muslim rapists 1.00

00:24:41.340 must be free to come to court without fear of molestation. 1.00

00:24:44.340 Molestation.

00:24:45.340 That word is so ironic given that they were pedophile.

00:24:47.340 They used that in my charge.

00:24:48.340 That's why they used it in my charge.

00:24:49.340 I'm reading it thinking, are they for real?

00:24:51.340 Are they trolling me?

00:24:52.340 You know, Tommy, last Christmas,

00:24:54.340 I finally read through your autobiography,

00:24:56.340 Enemy of the State.

00:24:57.340 And what was clear to me there is that you were targeted by the state

00:25:01.340 as a trouble, so they used any law,

00:25:04.340 they stretched any law they could.

00:25:06.340 You know, as Lavrenti Beria of the old predecessor to the KGB said,

00:25:12.340 show me the man, I'll find you the crime.

00:25:14.340 If a police state wants to get someone, they'll use anything.

00:25:18.340 So I think they'll find justification tomorrow.

00:25:20.340 I think what this is about is telling the whole country,

00:25:24.340 we were right to arrest him, he was guilty.

00:25:26.340 And sending that message.

00:25:28.340 Because at the minute, I was released from prison,

00:25:30.340 they were in the wrong, everything was unlawful,

00:25:32.340 and then it looks terrible for them.

00:25:34.340 And it don't just look terrible for them, it leaves an open door.

00:25:37.340 I was held against my categorisation, I was held unlawfully,

00:25:40.340 every procedure was done wrong.

00:25:43.340 The way I was held in prison was subject to mental torture.

00:25:46.340 That leaves an open door, at the minute, for me to bring charges against the state.

00:25:50.340 Well, I hope you do.

00:25:51.340 I'm standing outside the Old Bailey Central Criminal Courts in London,

00:25:55.340 shortly after Tommy Robinson was sentenced to prison

00:26:00.340 for live streaming his political commentary on Facebook

00:26:04.340 outside a rape gang trial last year in Leeds.

00:26:08.340 This has been a very long procedure, 14 months back and forth in the courts.

00:26:13.340 Tommy has already served ten weeks in solitary confinement

00:26:17.340 before that original conviction was quashed.

00:26:19.340 This was a retrial, and yet he was convicted again and sentenced again.

00:26:24.340 The long and the short of it is he was sentenced to a maximum of nine months in prison.

00:26:29.340 They reactivated an old three-month suspended sentence,

00:26:33.340 added to it a new six-month sentence,

00:26:36.340 and ordered that they be served consecutively, nine months in prison for citizen journalism.

00:26:43.340 But, as I mentioned, because he served some time improperly, he gets credit for that.

00:26:48.340 There's other mathematics that apply.

00:26:50.340 So, in the end, the effective sentence will be 19 weeks in prison.

00:26:55.340 And, again, because there's a rule about early reliefs, Tommy will be out in nine and a half weeks.

00:27:00.340 So, after all the math, Tommy Robinson will be in prison for 66 days.

00:27:06.340 So, Tommy, what does this verdict mean, not only for you, but what does this mean for the country?

00:27:10.340 It probably means, for me, I'll go to jail next week, which is unbelievable.

00:27:15.340 I'll go to jail for asking someone on the way into court, as a journalist, how are you feeling about your verdict.

00:27:20.340 That's all I've done. That's all I've done.

00:27:22.340 The video's there for everyone to watch. That's all I've done.

00:27:25.340 How you feel about your verdict. And I'll go to prison for the second time.

00:27:28.340 And they know what that means.

00:27:30.340 It means there is not only no freedom, because we know we've got no free speech.

00:27:34.340 We know we live in a post-free speech era. There's now no free press.

00:27:37.340 You're not even allowed to ask that question. You're not allowed to...

00:27:40.340 I've been convicted for taking a photo of someone.

00:27:43.340 How many journalists took photos of me as I walked into court today?

00:27:46.340 So, one of the video they showed in court of the press surrounding you last time you were going into the Old Bailey,

00:27:53.340 there was the BBC reporter. She asked you the exact same things. How are you feeling?

00:27:57.340 So, how should the press be feeling? What should they be thinking right now?

00:28:00.340 They should be worried, but they're celebrating. They're all happy. They're all happy. It's insane.

00:28:05.340 It's insane, but you can see how corrupt they are, because they don't even have a report.

00:28:09.340 Every one of them run the same headline. They're all in the same club.

00:28:12.340 They're not reporters. They're activists. They're not reporters. They're not journalists. They're activists.

00:28:18.340 I'll just, yeah.

00:28:20.340 And so, the next hearing for the sentencing is going to be on the 11th of July.

00:28:25.340 Yeah.

00:28:26.340 So, what's the plan until then? Where is your head at? What are you planning to do?

00:28:30.340 For me, I thought, I got told it would be adjourned for four to six weeks, which is why I'm upset, because I thought if I go to jail, I'll go to jail at the start of September.

00:28:36.340 After my kids break up for school holidays for six weeks, next week, oh, I'm just going to do my nothing.

00:28:43.340 And what's the plan for tonight?

00:28:45.340 I'm going home, mate. I was going to be out tonight. I can't bother now. Yeah, yeah.

00:28:49.340 And do you have any message for either your supporters or for the police or for the judges or for the media themselves?

00:28:57.340 They've just, really, what they've done, what they don't understand is, they say that they're trying to restore faith with the British public in the rule of law, how things have to be done at courts.

00:29:07.340 They lost the faith of the British public when they unlawfully and illegally in a flawed trial put me in jail.

00:29:13.340 They knew that left it open for me to sue them for millions because of what they've done. This prevents that now.

00:29:19.340 I think that, yeah, I don't know, I think that people in America, people in other countries should look on.

00:29:25.340 Donald Trump, if you're watching, I've already said, give me asylum before next Tuesday, next Thursday, because I reckon I'll get killed in jail.

00:29:31.340 I'm Ezra Levant. I'm standing outside HMP Belmarsh, the prison outside London, where Tommy Robinson has been incarcerated for these past 66 days.

00:29:49.340 Behind me, you can see photographers from the Daily Mirror, the only photographers who were here today.

00:29:57.340 It was kept a secret the exact time and location and, sorry, the exact time and date of Tommy being released.

00:30:07.340 And here he is now. Yeah, the camera's pointing this way. They've been very insistent that I not. Hey, Tommy, how you doing, mate?

00:30:15.340 Hey, thanks, man. Good to see you, man. You all right? I'm doing great. Look at you.

00:30:18.340 I know, man. I'm first-stop hairdressers, yeah? I know. Have your fun with your memes.

00:30:22.340 Tommy, it's great to see you. It's good to be seen.

00:30:26.340 You're in better health than you were last time. We visited you a few times.

00:30:30.340 Say a few words to your supporters who have been rooting for you these past 66 days.

00:30:35.340 Yep. I'd say it's been... I've enjoyed reading the support and hearing the support.

00:30:42.340 For me, the main thing for this would be an embarrassment to the British government, an embarrassment to the judiciary.

00:30:48.340 In the judge's words, so let's pretend I did commit contempt to court, which I did. In her words, it was unintentional.

00:30:54.340 So something that was unintentional, something that was unintentional that had zero effect on a trial, would result in a man, a journalist, being put in prison, spending two and a half months of soldier requirement in Omni.

00:31:05.340 And this is the crazy thing. I've walked into Belmarsh Prison and walked out without seeing another prisoner.

00:31:11.340 But in a way, that was good because...

00:31:14.340 It's good for my statement. 0.98

00:31:15.340 ...in Lawnley, they would have killed you if they could. 0.89

00:31:17.340 No, they would have done, yeah, yeah. Essentially, the governor here has done... I don't have a negative word to say about Belmarsh Prison.

00:31:23.340 Or any of the... Other than the insanity that you were in here to begin with.

00:31:27.340 Other than the insanity, and by putting me at the Old Bailey, they knew they'd get me in Belmarsh.

00:31:31.340 So then they can get me on solitary, on isolation.

00:31:33.340 Whereas if they... If they would have put it in the second biggest court in the land, which was Winchester,

00:31:37.340 I'd have gone to the Cat B local in Winchester, I'd have been fine, because there's no Muslims in the jail. 1.00

00:31:42.340 But essentially, I know I look a mess, so have your fun with it. 0.95

00:31:45.340 And it's ginger, so I look like a little cowardly convert coming out of jail. 0.95

00:31:49.340 Salaam alaikum.

00:31:51.340 Do you know, it took 16 days, which is quite fun. The Imams come to see me each day.

00:31:57.340 The Imams? The Imams every day. 0.98

00:31:59.340 Are they trying to get you on site?

00:32:01.340 They weren't. They were all nice, yeah. And it took 16 days.

00:32:05.340 It took 16 days, 16 days before a Christian come. 0.99

00:32:09.340 Really?

00:32:10.340 Every day, and there are four different Imams within the 16 days, and then a Christian come. 0.99

00:32:14.340 And when he come, I was just like... Holy cow.

00:32:16.340 Well, listen, there are a few other media who came here.

00:32:20.340 Thank you.

00:32:21.340 What's your message to the media? I have to say the mainstream media. The Daily Mirror's here, they were here early.

00:32:26.340 Can we turn you around to get you with a pack? No, you can't. I can't film the prison, mate. That's true.

00:32:30.340 You read their lies? You read their lies?

00:32:32.340 The Daily Mirror lied saying I was attacked in this prison. You lied. You lied to the public. You made up an entire story or you were part of the propaganda that's pushed out.

00:32:42.340 Now, my only message to them is, you're a disgrace and embarrassment, because if this happened to a journalist in Hong Kong, if what's happened to me happened to a journalist in Russia, in China, you'd all be up in arms. 0.95

00:32:52.340 But because I talk about Islam, you're all silent. You're all complicit in the attack on free speech that we're witnessing. You're all complicit on what's happened to our country. All of the media are. 0.96

00:33:01.340 Well, it's a great point. Right now, there's Venezuela. I was found guilty by an appointed judge. By an appointed judge. That's how the law works. No, not by jury.

00:33:10.340 Common law, English common law, says that if you can face over six months in prison, you get a jury. I was not given a jury.

00:33:15.340 So you think you'd be not guilty if it was a jury trial? I know I'd have found not guilty, and so do they. It's the only offence in the whole entire country, yeah, that you can get taken to prison for up to two years without a jury.

00:33:25.340 Is that a jury? That's how contempt works, that's the law. No, no, no, it's not how English common law works. So that goes against English common law.

00:33:31.340 And why was I at the Old Bailey? You tell me as a journalist, why was I at the Old Bailey? Thirteen murder trials of me for holding my phone up, and I was convicted of...

00:33:38.340 You've got high profile, Tommy. Because I'm high profile, that's why I'm at the Old Bailey. Well, maybe it is.

00:33:41.340 What difference does that make? Because they know you're going to have all your fans are going to be there.

00:33:45.340 What difference does that make? Because obviously the security procedures aren't the same as the Old Bailey as they are at other courts.

00:33:50.340 Well, I've been to ten different courts over the years. They've never moved me to Old Bailey.

00:33:54.340 Your popularity has increased. How popular you are. I'm glad you recognise that.

00:33:57.340 Tommy, it's really weird. It's because of your failures as a priest.

00:33:59.340 It's weird to have the media debating with you.

00:34:02.340 Arguing, arguing, because they're not media. They are not media. They're not journalists reporting stories.

00:34:07.340 I've never seen this before, that a journalist is taking the role of the prosecutor.

00:34:13.340 I mean, I like a good prickly question myself, but I've just, I mean, of course I've never seen this except for...

00:34:17.340 It's our job to question people. It's our job.

00:34:19.340 No, you're not questioning, you're telling me. You're doing questions. You're telling me.

00:34:22.340 But, at the same time, yeah.

00:34:25.340 Well, Tommy, I'll tell you what. Let's get you a haircut. Let's get you a hot meal.

00:34:31.340 Let's get you reunited with your wife and kids.

00:34:35.340 Yeah, yeah. Thank you, mate. We're good enough.

00:34:37.340 Just before you leave.

00:34:38.340 Thanks so much, Brad.

00:34:39.340 So, yeah.

00:34:41.340 All right, Tommy. Well, listen, let's get you cleaned up.

00:34:44.340 The sun, mate. The sun.

00:34:45.340 You got a lot of friends and fans. Give us one word about the mail. I know that there was about a month before you were able to get your mails.

00:34:52.340 Your mails?

00:34:53.340 Yeah, we'll be in that.

00:34:54.340 So there's like, I think there's 14 sacks.

00:34:56.340 I've read...

00:34:57.340 14 sacks of mail?

00:34:58.340 I've read every single one of your messages.

00:35:00.340 Every single bit of your mail.

00:35:02.340 And it was emotional for me to read the effect it has on people.

00:35:07.340 And it's also fulfilling to see the amount of people that woke up, that were awakened by what the British government have done and what they're doing.

00:35:14.340 All right, let's take care of you, my friend. Nice to see you. I'm glad you're free. Cheers.

00:35:18.340 Well, we picked him up at prison. We got him a haircut. He had a hot meal and now Tommy Robinson sits down with me.

00:35:24.340 What a pleasure to see you outside of prison and free again.

00:35:28.340 It's good to be seen.

00:35:30.340 This time was a lot different than your incarceration and HMP only.

00:35:34.340 I would describe that as torture, physical and psychological. How was it this time?

00:35:40.340 So I was in Belmarsh, obviously, and the governor of Belmarsh made a complete effort to make sure that my rights were recognised.

00:35:49.340 I was in for a civil offence. It's not a criminal offence. As a civil prisoner, you're entitled to more money.

00:35:55.340 So my big thing...

00:35:56.340 As in to spend more of your own money?

00:35:58.340 To spend more money. £47.50 a week I could spend, which meant I could buy as much tinned food as I wanted to.

00:36:03.340 And really, basically, and fruit and things like that.

00:36:07.340 In Honorly last year, £10 a week I had so I could buy six tins of tuna. That's it.

00:36:13.340 And you couldn't eat the prison cafeteria food because, of course, it was made by the prison Muslim gangs. 1.00

00:36:19.340 How was it in Belmarsh? Did you feel comfortable eating their prepared food?

00:36:23.340 So from when I was... I went into Belmarsh prison and come out of Belmarsh prison without seeing a prisoner.

00:36:28.340 The only prisoner I saw on two separate occasions was Julian Assange.

00:36:32.340 Now that's amazing to a lot of people that...

00:36:35.340 Because some... I mean, I don't know enough about Julian Assange to come to a firm conclusion,

00:36:39.340 but some people call him a political prisoner. He's certainly not a violent man.

00:36:43.340 You are definitely a political prisoner.

00:36:45.340 For the two of you to wind up in the same prison, the same unit, that's quite something.

00:36:50.340 Maybe it was inevitable. I don't know.

00:36:52.340 So he's in healthcare.

00:36:54.340 So basically, where I was was...

00:36:57.340 It's a prison within the prison.

00:36:59.340 So essentially, no one goes to this section bit.

00:37:01.340 So you've got a corridor. You've got a corridor along here.

00:37:04.340 And there's no windows in the corridor.

00:37:06.340 So there's a corridor. There's a door at this end and a door at this end.

00:37:08.340 And on this strip, there'll be four rooms.

00:37:11.340 A prison officer's room where the staff will sit.

00:37:14.340 Two members of staff.

00:37:16.340 Then an empty cell.

00:37:18.340 And then my cell.

00:37:19.340 And then the next cell, which is another empty cell with a exercise bike in it.

00:37:24.340 And at the end you'll have...

00:37:26.340 Then at the end there's a shower.

00:37:28.340 So...

00:37:29.340 And then my...

00:37:30.340 So for me to have it...

00:37:31.340 So the idea is that it's contained on here.

00:37:32.340 No one sees you.

00:37:33.340 No one knows you're there.

00:37:34.340 They call it a suite, don't they?

00:37:36.340 They call it a suite.

00:37:38.340 For anyone who stayed in a suite in a hotel, it's not a suite yet.

00:37:42.340 It's basically three cells.

00:37:45.340 But...

00:37:46.340 So at nine in the morning.

00:37:48.340 So they'd come and my door would be opened at nine in the morning, quarter nine.

00:37:51.340 And then when my door was open, then the officers then sit in their room.

00:37:56.340 And then I have till quarter past eleven to shower, use the bike.

00:38:01.340 So you're on your own.

00:38:02.340 But I'll go on the bike for an hour.

00:38:04.340 The bike was a godsend.

00:38:05.340 The first day I saw the bike, I was like...

00:38:07.340 Because they said, you've got your own gym.

00:38:09.340 Because I said, I want to go to the gym.

00:38:10.340 You've got your own gym.

00:38:11.340 When I was coming in the reception room.

00:38:13.340 I saw the bike at first.

00:38:14.340 I was like, Jim.

00:38:15.340 Is that all it is?

00:38:16.340 The bike did the bikes off?

00:38:17.340 Yeah, but it was actually good.

00:38:18.340 No, no, no.

00:38:19.340 And then...

00:38:20.340 So then I'd do an hour on the bike.

00:38:22.340 I'd pace up and down to cool down a bit before I had a shower.

00:38:26.340 And then I'd have a shower.

00:38:27.340 And then I'd go on an exercise yard, which is a contained exercise.

00:38:31.340 So the exercise yard backs onto where my window is.

00:38:34.340 And it's like you see from the visit room, it's four storey high.

00:38:38.340 But there's windows looking on this exercise yard.

00:38:41.340 So it's a square.

00:38:42.340 It's a courtyard.

00:38:43.340 But there's no cells that look onto it.

00:38:47.340 There's no cells around here.

00:38:49.340 This part of the prison, this is all offices.

00:38:52.340 But then at the top, there's four cells from healthcare.

00:38:56.340 So if you've had an operation, if you're in a hospital wing,

00:39:00.340 there's four windows that looked onto this courtyard.

00:39:03.340 Junior Assange's was the second window in.

00:39:05.340 So you could holler up to him and he could holler down to you.

00:39:09.340 Yeah, so two days...

00:39:10.340 Where are we now?

00:39:11.340 Two, three days ago, I spent 30 minutes when I could see him then.

00:39:15.340 Because again, he's not having a good time.

00:39:19.340 He's been in the form of detention for many years.

00:39:23.340 Yeah, and as he says, the isolation is gained.

00:39:26.340 All got to him.

00:39:28.340 I don't want to pry into any confidences,

00:39:30.340 although I don't think I'd call it a confidence.

00:39:32.340 Obviously, every word he said to you and vice versa

00:39:34.340 was tracked by the prison and probably various intelligence agencies.

00:39:39.340 I don't think there's a private word spoken in those contingency suites.

00:39:43.340 I know when I visited you, there was a camera at the ceiling.

00:39:45.340 There's cameras at the ceiling.

00:39:46.340 Are you at liberty to discuss what you talked about with him?

00:39:50.340 Yeah, I wouldn't be aware.

00:39:53.340 That's why I wouldn't be aware if he'd even want me to.

00:39:56.340 So through a mutual friend that was...

00:39:58.340 You know what, no problem, I just was curious.

00:40:00.340 But the fact that you spoke with him was interesting.

00:40:02.340 I don't want to...

00:40:03.340 I spoke to him about a mutual friend we spoke about at this moment.

00:40:05.340 Right.

00:40:06.340 And you think...

00:40:07.340 No problem.

00:40:08.340 I was just curious because I know our viewers will be tantalized.

00:40:11.340 Now when I visited you on one of those occasions,

00:40:13.340 I heard some moaning or some shouting.

00:40:15.340 Obviously not from the science.

00:40:17.340 There's another prisoner.

00:40:18.340 Was there a murderer in the wing as well?

00:40:20.340 Yeah, he's on healthcare as well.

00:40:23.340 So there's a prisoner who...

00:40:25.340 So in the first week I was speaking to him

00:40:27.340 because I couldn't see him, so I hadn't seen him,

00:40:29.340 but he can shout out the window and he can speak to the person.

00:40:32.340 There's four windows there, but...

00:40:34.340 And there's one lad there who was...

00:40:36.340 I was feeling sorry for him the first week.

00:40:38.340 He's having a terrible sentence.

00:40:39.340 He's ten years in.

00:40:41.340 But then I...

00:40:42.340 Ten years in isolation?

00:40:43.340 No, so he's not in isolation.

00:40:44.340 So he's in how...

00:40:45.340 Yeah, for his door to open,

00:40:46.340 there has to be four security,

00:40:48.340 wearing full riot gear every time. 0.98

00:40:50.340 Oh my God, he must be a monster. 0.87

00:40:52.340 Or maybe not. 0.99

00:40:53.340 Maybe not.

00:40:54.340 They could say that about you.

00:40:55.340 No, he is.

00:40:56.340 So the crime he told me he was in there for,

00:40:58.340 therefore I checked out,

00:40:59.340 because I didn't want to be talking to...

00:41:00.340 I want to know what he's in there for.

00:41:01.340 He told me he's in there for murdering his mate.

00:41:03.340 He's not in there for murdering his mate. 1.00

00:41:04.340 He's in there for murdering and raping a 16-year-old girl. 0.99

00:41:06.340 I don't know if it wasn't good. 0.98

00:41:08.340 So he's having a bad tenure.

00:41:10.340 And when I found that out,

00:41:11.340 I thought it was good that he's having such a bad sentence

00:41:13.340 and I hope he has another 15 years of hell in there.

00:41:16.340 But that's the only...

00:41:18.340 And so anyone who's been in prison,

00:41:21.340 it's the hustle and bustle of being in prison.

00:41:22.340 It's the noises of being in prison,

00:41:24.340 the environment of being in prison.

00:41:26.340 But this wasn't like being in a prison,

00:41:28.340 because as I said,

00:41:29.340 the only person I saw briefly,

00:41:31.340 which was once...

00:41:32.340 So...

00:41:33.340 And again, when I got in there,

00:41:35.340 I expected the same as last time.

00:41:38.340 23 and a half hour bang up.

00:41:40.340 Them to block.

00:41:41.340 And they blocked...

00:41:43.340 Like last time,

00:41:44.340 the only time they'd get me out

00:41:45.340 was at lunchtime for my shower.

00:41:47.340 And that's when I could use the phone.

00:41:49.340 And my wife, at the time,

00:41:50.340 was working actually in a school.

00:41:51.340 She's not now.

00:41:52.340 She was working in a school.

00:41:53.340 And my kids were at school.

00:41:54.340 So I couldn't speak to my family.

00:41:56.340 And they purposely done everything.

00:41:58.340 So I expected the same.

00:42:00.340 But...

00:42:01.340 And I was probably quite rude

00:42:03.340 on the first day.

00:42:04.340 I remember when the governor come down to see me,

00:42:06.340 I just said, shut the door.

00:42:07.340 Because I expected the same.

00:42:09.340 But then it very...

00:42:11.340 I knew quite quickly I wasn't the same.

00:42:13.340 I mean...

00:42:14.340 Essentially,

00:42:15.340 that governor's in a position where

00:42:17.340 I've landed in this prison,

00:42:18.340 which is why I haven't got a bad word

00:42:19.340 to say about Belmarsh.

00:42:20.340 I'm annoyed and angered and frustrated

00:42:22.340 at what they've been allowed to do again.

00:42:25.340 By putting me at the Old Bailey,

00:42:26.340 they know that sends me to Belmarsh. 0.90

00:42:27.340 Belmarsh houses the worst terrorists 0.99

00:42:32.340 and the worst... 0.99

00:42:33.340 It's like Guantanamo Bay.

00:42:34.340 Yeah, it's the worst offenders

00:42:35.340 and the worst offenders in the UK

00:42:36.340 are sent to Belmarsh.

00:42:37.340 Salman Abadie's brothers

00:42:39.340 believe in there now.

00:42:40.340 The man who attacked the police officer,

00:42:42.340 the British order,

00:42:43.340 he come in there.

00:42:44.340 I don't know.

00:42:45.340 So it's terrorists and murders.

00:42:47.340 And you.

00:42:48.340 And a civil offender.

00:42:50.340 So that...

00:42:51.340 Ross Kemp...

00:42:52.340 Because Ross Kemp's doing a documentary.

00:42:53.340 He's a British journalist.

00:42:54.340 Yeah, he's doing it.

00:42:55.340 And he come...

00:42:56.340 That's what he come down

00:42:57.340 after a couple of days

00:42:58.340 and...

00:42:59.340 I don't put it...

00:43:00.340 I think...

00:43:01.340 He come down after a couple of days

00:43:02.340 saying,

00:43:03.340 how do you feel?

00:43:04.340 And you're not in...

00:43:05.340 You're not a threat here.

00:43:07.340 And he's right.

00:43:08.340 And there was no...

00:43:09.340 No time in that sentence

00:43:11.340 after the first couple of days

00:43:12.340 that I feel in danger.

00:43:14.340 Well, Tommy,

00:43:15.340 your kids are almost out of school

00:43:17.340 so I'll wrap up.

00:43:18.340 But I recall

00:43:19.340 that it was exactly

00:43:20.340 in the same pub

00:43:21.340 that you and I met

00:43:22.340 and chatted

00:43:23.340 when you were released

00:43:24.340 out of Onley.

00:43:25.340 The horrible prison

00:43:27.340 in which you were tortured.

00:43:28.340 and I must say

00:43:29.340 that physically,

00:43:30.340 psychologically,

00:43:31.340 mentally,

00:43:32.340 emotionally

00:43:33.340 you were so much better

00:43:35.340 now then.

00:43:36.340 You were shell-shocked back then.

00:43:37.340 It was like a...

00:43:38.340 It was like a detonation

00:43:40.340 went off next to your head.

00:43:41.340 I wasn't...

00:43:42.340 I wasn't expecting

00:43:43.340 to get released

00:43:44.340 when I got released.

00:43:45.340 Right.

00:43:46.340 So I wasn't expecting

00:43:47.340 to get released.

00:43:48.340 This time as well,

00:43:49.340 even this morning,

00:43:50.340 I was quite emotional this morning,

00:43:51.340 but that's from being looked up by.

00:43:52.340 It's not normal.

00:43:53.340 Yeah.

00:43:54.340 So, yeah.

00:43:55.340 I was quite...

00:43:56.340 And even though I wasn't...

00:43:57.340 I wasn't excited about getting out.

00:43:58.340 Which I should be sure.

00:43:59.340 Isn't that interesting?

00:44:00.340 Well, Tommy,

00:44:01.340 I want to let you know

00:44:02.340 because it sounds like

00:44:03.340 you got a lot of mail,

00:44:04.340 but we get an enormous amount

00:44:06.340 of email and comments

00:44:07.340 on Twitter and YouTube

00:44:08.340 and Facebook

00:44:09.340 and I think you know it,

00:44:12.340 but I'll just tell you anyways.

00:44:13.340 There are people not just

00:44:14.340 in the United Kingdom

00:44:15.340 but around the world

00:44:16.340 who follow your story.

00:44:18.340 They feel like they have

00:44:19.340 a personal friendship with you.

00:44:20.340 Yeah, yeah.

00:44:21.340 And some of them do.

00:44:22.340 It's not just my journey, it's theirs.

00:44:23.340 Well, and the issues you talk about

00:44:25.340 are so...

00:44:28.340 They ring a bell for so many people

00:44:30.340 and so a lot of people,

00:44:32.340 I know if they could speak

00:44:33.340 through me here,

00:44:34.340 they would say,

00:44:35.340 please keep it up,

00:44:36.340 please be smart,

00:44:37.340 please be careful,

00:44:38.340 please make good choices,

00:44:39.340 but please keep fighting

00:44:41.340 because as I've said before,

00:44:42.340 I believe that you're the last lion

00:44:44.340 and if they stop you,

00:44:46.340 well then who else could there possibly be?

00:44:49.340 So you've got to keep doing it.

00:44:50.340 You've got to keep doing it.

00:44:51.340 Again, I was asked that this morning.

00:44:53.340 Will you be back?

00:44:54.340 Because there's a documentary being filmed

00:44:56.340 in Belmarsh Prison.

00:44:57.340 Will you be back?

00:44:58.340 Back in prison is what they meant?

00:44:59.340 Yeah, will you be back?

00:45:00.340 Well, let's do our best to let that happen.

00:45:02.340 Let's do our best,

00:45:03.340 but I said the same answer to him

00:45:04.340 is the minute you start worrying about consequences,

00:45:06.340 the minute you stop doing what you do.

00:45:07.340 Now I'm going to continue to do what I do.

00:45:09.340 I don't intend to break any doors.

00:45:10.340 I'm not going to break any doors.

00:45:11.340 I'm not going to break any doors.

00:45:12.340 I will defend myself.

00:45:13.340 I need to defend myself at times.

00:45:14.340 But it's like they,

00:45:17.340 I'm going to continue doing the work I do.

00:45:19.340 I've seen how much that's upset

00:45:20.340 and angered them already.

00:45:21.340 So yeah,

00:45:23.340 if I could,

00:45:24.340 I'll just say I'm massive.

00:45:25.340 I'm going to,

00:45:26.340 people will get a video from me

00:45:27.340 in the next week,

00:45:29.340 talking about my experience as well

00:45:31.340 and about how grateful I am.

00:45:32.340 But to everyone who wrote to me,

00:45:33.340 everyone who mailed to me,

00:45:34.340 all the people who spent their money traveling,

00:45:35.340 some of the distances,

00:45:36.340 I'm reading your mails.

00:45:37.340 I'm reading the mails to some people

00:45:38.340 and they're telling me the times

00:45:39.340 they're getting on mega buses

00:45:40.340 and their transport down on their own,

00:45:42.340 against their family's wishes.

00:45:43.340 And then I'm reading the full stories

00:45:45.340 and it was such a,

00:45:47.340 as I say,

00:45:48.340 fulfilling,

00:45:49.340 heartwarming,

00:45:50.340 to read their journeys

00:45:51.340 that they've gone on themselves

00:45:52.340 from being here

00:45:53.340 to waking up

00:45:54.340 to questioning

00:45:55.340 to falling out with family

00:45:56.340 to,

00:45:57.340 and I say the same thing to all of them.

00:45:59.340 I've been through that same experience

00:46:01.340 and all the people who have turned against you

00:46:03.340 or your friends

00:46:04.340 that might be disagreeing with you

00:46:05.340 and not understanding,

00:46:06.340 there will come a time

00:46:07.340 when they understand

00:46:08.340 and then they'll realize

00:46:09.340 that they're wrong

00:46:10.340 and you'll see the same as I've seen.

00:46:12.340 So yeah,

00:46:13.340 I'm grateful and as I said,

00:46:14.340 I'm grateful to everyone for the support.

00:46:16.340 Thank you.

00:46:17.340 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - December 26, 2019

Tommy Robinson's 2019 in review

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