Rebel News Podcast - Toronto Danforth Shooting investigation wraps up： No motive, move along

00:00:00.500 You're listening to a Rebel Media Podcast.

00:00:03.840 Tonight, the police investigation into Faisal Hussain is made public.

00:00:08.780 It's June 24th, I'm David Menzies, and this is the Ezra Levent Show.

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00:00:23.200 The only thing I have to say to the government, the why I'm publishing,

00:00:26.760 is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:30.000 So, almost a year after that grotesque act of carnage

00:00:38.960 that would come to be known as the Danforth shooting,

00:00:42.220 the Toronto Police investigation into this mass shooting

00:00:45.540 was finally released to the public on Friday.

00:00:48.840 Now, the actual investigation had wrapped many moons ago,

00:00:52.660 yet it isn't all that surprising why the police weren't champing at the bit

00:00:57.420 to release this document in the first place.

00:01:00.720 That's because this previously embargoed investigation is truly incredible,

00:01:06.380 not for what it says, but rather for what it doesn't say.

00:01:11.740 Indeed, if you had to give this investigation a working title,

00:01:14.980 it would surely be Operation Nothing Burger.

00:01:18.160 To recap, last July, Faisal Hussain walked along Toronto's delightful Danforth Avenue

00:01:25.000 on a sublime Sunday evening.

00:01:27.820 As citizens, both young and old, were eating ice cream and sipping lattes,

00:01:32.600 Hussain started selectively shooting people.

00:01:35.640 He killed two and injured 13 before turning the gun on himself.

00:01:39.960 By the way, when I say selectively shooting people,

00:01:43.100 that's because not everyone Hussain encountered that evening

00:01:46.720 was deemed to be a suitable and therefore shootable target.

00:01:51.820 I'll expand on that a little later on.

00:01:54.340 In any event, when the dust settled,

00:01:56.300 we yet again bore witness to the bitter harvest of another mass shooting.

00:02:01.260 Yet again, another gross act of terrorism had erupted,

00:02:04.440 even though the usual suspects were aghast

00:02:07.940 when it came to actually uttering the dreaded T-word,

00:02:11.640 given the identity politics at play here.

00:02:14.820 As is par for the course,

00:02:16.640 the du rigueur makeshift memorials popped up all around,

00:02:20.580 followed by the usual speeches of how the dearly departed

00:02:23.460 would be in our thoughts and in our prayers.

00:02:26.100 And of course, there were more teddy bears

00:02:28.220 than one finds at a typical carny game.

00:02:31.860 We've seen it all before.

00:02:33.100 We'll surely see more of it in the future.

00:02:36.600 Welcome to the new abnormal.

00:02:39.200 And yet, from the get-go,

00:02:40.840 so many things about this particular mass shooting,

00:02:43.980 they just didn't add up.

00:02:45.720 For starters, it was most curious

00:02:47.460 why the Toronto police employed the cone of silence

00:02:50.880 pertaining to the identity of the deceased gunman.

00:02:54.740 More than 24 hours would elapse

00:02:56.560 before the name of Faisal Hussain

00:02:58.480 would finally be made public.

00:03:00.900 This was truly inexplicable.

00:03:03.100 The cops knew who the dead gunman was

00:03:05.740 and his next of kin had been notified,

00:03:08.520 so why the delay?

00:03:10.840 Well, incredibly, someone took the time to

00:03:13.560 pen a press release on the behalf of the gunman's mother and father.

00:03:17.960 I'm not kidding.

00:03:19.300 This media release, written in perfect English,

00:03:22.180 would adroitly explain their son's struggle with mental illness.

00:03:26.800 But of course it would,

00:03:28.420 for this seems to be the ongoing narrative

00:03:30.600 when it comes to a Muslim carrying out acts of terror these days.

00:03:34.400 It has nothing to do with the ideology or the radicalization,

00:03:39.360 but rather, it's the end result of mental illness.

00:03:44.680 Indeed, remember the case of Ayanli Hassan Ali?

00:03:48.320 In March 2016, the then 30-year-old burst into a Canadian Forces recruiting office

00:03:54.360 in North Toronto, wielding a large kitchen knife.

00:03:58.020 Ali punched, slashed, and stabbed the corporal at the entrance.

00:04:01.560 He then tried to stab another sergeant who'd fallen to the ground.

00:04:05.480 When Ali was finally subdued,

00:04:07.660 he was charged with nine counts, including attempted murder.

00:04:11.400 But just like Mr. Hussein, there was no Islamo-fascism to be seen here, folks.

00:04:17.480 Even though, according to the Ontario Review Board,

00:04:20.060 Ali continues to express concerns about the Canadian government

00:04:24.280 and its interactions with Muslim countries.

00:04:27.500 And he expressed disappointment that he wasn't killed when he was taken down.

00:04:33.120 But hey, he was probably joking about all that wild and crazy Sharia stuff, eh? 1.00

00:04:38.980 It's simply an outbreak of schizophrenia or something.

00:04:44.480 Oh, and by the way, unlike Hussein, Ali is very much alive,

00:04:48.560 and when he's soon released from the loony bin,

00:04:51.180 the theory is that his best form of therapy for his reintegration into society

00:04:56.920 is to enroll at a course at Hamilton's Mohawk College,

00:05:01.760 even though he still poses a threat to public safety.

00:05:06.000 Hey, Mohawk students, you might want to put a flak jacket 1.00

00:05:09.920 on your back-to-school checklist come September.

00:05:14.500 All of which raises the question,

00:05:17.540 why is it that Islamism and mental illness must be mutually exclusive?

00:05:23.840 What if the likes of Ali and Hussein are mentally unstable

00:05:27.640 and also individuals who willingly bought into the radical Islamist agenda too?

00:05:34.240 But apparently even entertaining that thought

00:05:37.660 is too culturally insensitive

00:05:40.680 when it comes to a certain rapidly growing voting bloc.

00:05:44.620 So no radical Islam to see here, folks. 1.00

00:05:47.660 Move along, move along.

00:05:49.760 And my goodness, that press release issued by the Hussein family 1.00

00:05:53.220 was such a polished document.

00:05:55.680 Little wonder, for it would later be revealed

00:05:58.220 by the Toronto Sun's Anthony Fury

00:06:00.080 that the release was penned by a spin doctor

00:06:03.440 by the name of Mohamed Hashim.

00:06:06.260 Hashim is a full-time organizer

00:06:08.240 for the Toronto and New York Region Labour Council,

00:06:11.080 who also happens to be a driving force

00:06:13.880 behind the National Council of Canadian Muslims.

00:06:17.460 As Fury noted in his column,

00:06:19.580 Hashim is someone who's committed to, quote,

00:06:21.980 framing a new narrative of Muslims in Canada, end quote.

00:06:27.080 Well, that's interesting.

00:06:28.660 What new narrative would that be?

00:06:31.100 And what, pray tell,

00:06:32.860 is Muslim narrative classic, for that matter?

00:06:36.260 Regardless, a gun-toting Muslim 1.00

00:06:38.220 killing innocent people 0.81

00:06:39.760 clearly doesn't fit

00:06:41.480 with whatever narrative Hashim is trying to manufacture.

00:06:45.600 Even more fascinating is how

00:06:47.560 this particular spin doctor

00:06:49.180 was able to snag this freelance gig in the first place.

00:06:53.340 And by that, I mean,

00:06:54.340 I speak of the tangible, nitty-gritty process

00:06:56.860 of Hashim being hired

00:06:58.960 to write the mental illness script.

00:07:01.400 I mean, who reached out to this individual

00:07:03.480 to put that ball in play?

00:07:05.840 Was it someone in law enforcement,

00:07:07.640 or government, or the bureaucracy,

00:07:09.400 or Commissioner Gordon

00:07:11.040 illuminating the bat signal?

00:07:13.120 And if it wasn't law enforcement

00:07:15.040 acting as the go-between,

00:07:16.400 then why were the police

00:07:17.940 so cooperative in ragging the puck

00:07:20.880 when it came to not revealing Faisal's name?

00:07:24.120 I personally asked those questions

00:07:25.960 to anyone who had listened almost a year ago,

00:07:28.100 and all my queries

00:07:29.180 were met with radio silence.

00:07:31.800 Look, I've been in this game for many moons.

00:07:34.160 I can't recall an incident

00:07:35.800 in which, say, some Toronto gangbanger

00:07:39.020 was shot dead in Toronto,

00:07:40.520 and the police put off

00:07:41.740 releasing his name for more than 24 hours

00:07:44.660 so that a spin doctor

00:07:46.800 could concoct a press release

00:07:48.660 for the thug's family.

00:07:50.680 So again, could it be that

00:07:52.220 for the politically correct chorus

00:07:54.140 of the five Ps,

00:07:55.820 the politicians, the prosecutors,

00:07:57.880 the police, the professors,

00:07:59.460 and the press,

00:08:00.800 this business of Muslims

00:08:02.620 committing acts of terrorism

00:08:04.280 kind of goes against the grain.

00:08:06.340 We are continually force-fed

00:08:08.160 that Islam is a religion of peace,

00:08:11.400 even when very often it isn't.

00:08:14.440 Indeed, compare Hussein's acts of carnage 1.00

00:08:17.240 with that of another Toronto maniac

00:08:19.560 who conducted his massacre

00:08:21.440 just three months prior

00:08:23.340 to the Danforth shooting.

00:08:25.340 I speak of Alec Manassian,

00:08:27.260 who killed 10 people

00:08:28.440 and injured 15 others

00:08:29.800 when he went on a deadly rampage

00:08:32.220 down Yonge Street

00:08:33.140 behind the wheel

00:08:33.960 of a rented cargo van.

00:08:35.620 Yet, even though the body count

00:08:38.320 far exceeded

00:08:39.020 what Faisal Hussein manufactured,

00:08:41.980 Manassian's name was released

00:08:43.660 almost as soon as he was arrested.

00:08:46.080 There was certainly no outreach campaign

00:08:48.520 to hire a spin doctor

00:08:50.380 to craft a fancy press release

00:08:52.420 on behalf of the Manassian family.

00:08:55.080 So again, the question rises,

00:08:57.220 why?

00:08:58.220 Is it because the authorities

00:09:00.340 are increasingly hypersensitive

00:09:02.620 in this day and age of M103?

00:09:05.620 That when it comes to stating anything

00:09:07.780 that might come across

00:09:09.440 as giving a PR black eye

00:09:11.720 to the adherents of the religion of peace,

00:09:14.060 that's just wrong?

00:09:15.460 It brings to mind that rainy day last July

00:09:18.180 when my cameraman Efren and I

00:09:19.780 went down to the Danforth

00:09:21.060 near a makeshift shrine for the victims

00:09:23.680 to ask people what they thought

00:09:26.140 of a breaking story reported by CBS

00:09:28.780 that Hussein had visited ISIS websites

00:09:32.400 and had actually pledged his support for ISIS.

00:09:36.660 Yet, merely asking people to weigh in

00:09:39.340 on this breaking news

00:09:40.580 was over-the-top triggering

00:09:42.740 for a woman complaining 0.98

00:09:44.060 to be a high school teacher.

00:09:45.940 So it was that she found it necessary

00:09:48.420 to interrupt an interview I was conducting

00:09:50.780 to give us what turned out

00:09:52.640 to be a verbal whipping

00:09:53.900 just for asking questions

00:09:56.600 she deemed to be insensitive

00:09:59.360 and inappropriate.

00:10:01.060 Check it out.

00:10:02.080 If there is terrorism,

00:10:03.020 why are the authorities

00:10:03.880 so reluctant to call it terrorism?

00:10:07.140 I don't know.

00:10:09.160 I don't know.

00:10:11.060 I don't know.

00:10:12.960 It's just awful.

00:10:13.620 It's just awful.

00:10:16.760 Excuse me?

00:10:17.300 This is a moment for our community.

00:10:19.080 Can you please not descend

00:10:20.220 into racist things right now?

00:10:21.700 Please don't.

00:10:22.100 I'm sorry.

00:10:22.720 What did I say that was racist?

00:10:24.080 Don't come here.

00:10:25.300 The rebel, really?

00:10:26.640 You don't need to be here right now.

00:10:28.520 This is our community.

00:10:29.960 Folks, did I say anything

00:10:30.960 that was racist?

00:10:31.940 Yes, you asked if the man...

00:10:32.980 Well, I'm actually...

00:10:33.640 You asked if the shooter

00:10:34.540 had visited ISIS websites.

00:10:36.640 That is not...

00:10:37.580 No, I said CBS in the U.S.

00:10:39.620 This is not okay.

00:10:40.600 I said CBS in the U.S.

00:10:41.920 is reporting that.

00:10:43.320 The rebel is not okay.

00:10:44.920 That does not represent

00:10:46.060 Canadian values.

00:10:47.220 Why are you so mad, ma'am?

00:10:48.300 This is a news report

00:10:49.800 that broke today.

00:10:50.780 Can I call you back?

00:10:51.840 This is not what we're about.

00:10:52.980 I'm sorry.

00:10:53.500 This is not what Canada is about.

00:10:54.920 Canada is not about racism.

00:10:56.680 I will not stand for it.

00:10:58.140 You're the one

00:10:58.700 that's raising race. 0.98

00:10:59.900 This is a wall...

00:11:00.620 You just asked

00:11:01.420 if the man was a part of ISIS.

00:11:03.920 Ma'am, if you listened...

00:11:05.840 Can I speak?

00:11:06.640 I'll let you speak.

00:11:07.860 Can I clarify?

00:11:09.040 I heard you.

00:11:09.500 CBS in the U.S.

00:11:11.520 is reporting that he had...

00:11:13.240 CBS?

00:11:13.760 That's like reporting on Fox.

00:11:16.200 Fake news, man.

00:11:17.280 Fake...

00:11:17.640 The rebel.

00:11:18.200 Fake news.

00:11:19.020 Fake news.

00:11:19.720 What's real news?

00:11:21.000 People that actually

00:11:21.760 have a media outlet

00:11:22.600 that is real and not racist.

00:11:24.060 Like CBC?

00:11:24.620 CBC, dude.

00:11:25.660 Yes, like CBC.

00:11:26.420 It's better.

00:11:27.140 It's not perfect,

00:11:27.960 but it's definitely better.

00:11:29.020 Now, for anyone

00:11:29.620 who hasn't seen this video,

00:11:30.820 I urge you to view it

00:11:31.860 in its entirety

00:11:32.800 because the idea

00:11:34.900 that this woman

00:11:35.780 is in a position

00:11:36.800 to influence young minds

00:11:38.540 is downright disturbing.

00:11:40.840 In any event,

00:11:41.680 it concludes with this woman 0.97

00:11:43.460 yelling in the rain,

00:11:45.160 contemplating that

00:11:46.180 she's thinking

00:11:46.940 of calling the cops

00:11:48.040 so that we can be taken away

00:11:50.260 for merely asking questions

00:11:52.580 she deemed to be

00:11:54.180 quote,

00:11:54.860 racist crap hate speech

00:11:57.100 end quote.

00:11:58.260 Check it out.

00:11:59.240 On you talking racist crap

00:12:01.340 in front of my community...

00:12:02.800 What would be the charge, ma'am?

00:12:04.420 You're going to call the police?

00:12:05.340 ...about stuff

00:12:06.060 that's completely inaccurate

00:12:07.060 and irrelevant.

00:12:07.840 This is illegal

00:12:08.520 under Canadian law?

00:12:09.740 You know what?

00:12:10.340 Unfortunately not,

00:12:11.160 but if you start spewing

00:12:12.200 racist crap

00:12:13.200 that is hate speech,

00:12:14.160 yes, it is illegal.

00:12:14.980 Can you tell me exactly

00:12:16.460 what I spouted

00:12:17.240 as racist crap hate speech?

00:12:18.780 You're making assumptions

00:12:20.240 about an individual

00:12:21.240 that is now dead

00:12:22.240 that we don't need

00:12:23.440 to be talking about

00:12:24.260 in this respect.

00:12:25.220 No, I said that CBS

00:12:26.520 was reporting an angle

00:12:28.040 and I was getting people

00:12:28.900 to comment.

00:12:29.340 It's CBS!

00:12:29.920 Why are you quoting

00:12:30.620 the United States?

00:12:31.380 We live in Canada.

00:12:33.080 It's a Canadian story.

00:12:34.540 It's a Canadian story.

00:12:35.560 It's our story.

00:12:36.880 It's my community's story.

00:12:38.340 You have no business

00:12:39.480 being here

00:12:39.960 with your racist crap. 0.85

00:12:41.420 Get your racist crap

00:12:42.580 out of my community.

00:12:43.560 Get it out now.

00:12:44.400 I feel to see

00:12:45.220 where I'm racist,

00:12:46.000 but anyways...

00:12:46.780 Read your own stuff online, bro.

00:12:49.120 Seriously.

00:12:49.480 Wake the fuck up.

00:12:50.820 Enjoy your ice cream, guys.

00:12:52.260 You know,

00:12:52.620 isn't it amazing

00:12:53.260 that she's more concerned

00:12:54.580 about the feelings

00:12:55.760 of a deceased terrorist

00:12:57.460 than she is

00:12:58.940 about Hussein's

00:12:59.820 innocent victims

00:13:00.800 given that

00:13:01.600 she was so triggered

00:13:03.240 that we were,

00:13:04.480 quote,

00:13:04.960 making assumptions

00:13:06.060 about an individual

00:13:07.280 that is now dead,

00:13:08.560 end quote,

00:13:09.720 even though we weren't

00:13:10.640 making assumptions at all,

00:13:12.020 but merely asking questions

00:13:13.660 based on a CBS News report.

00:13:16.100 But I think

00:13:17.380 her unhinged attitude 0.70

00:13:18.780 goes to show

00:13:19.680 the hypersensitivity

00:13:21.460 when it comes

00:13:22.220 to all things Islam

00:13:23.640 in certain quarters.

00:13:25.880 Because if the gunman Hussein 0.93

00:13:27.860 wasn't a member

00:13:29.000 of this protected class,

00:13:30.940 if Faisal Hussein's name

00:13:32.600 was Joe Smith

00:13:33.880 and he was a white supremacist,

00:13:36.560 I don't think

00:13:37.700 this teacher

00:13:38.380 would have endured

00:13:39.100 such a meltdown

00:13:40.060 and I don't think

00:13:41.600 a spin doctor

00:13:42.540 would have been hired

00:13:43.860 to massage the message.

00:13:46.540 All of which brings me

00:13:47.800 to Friday's news

00:13:48.800 or non-news

00:13:50.380 as the case may be.

00:13:51.980 Typically,

00:13:52.480 I would start a commentary

00:13:53.780 with the latest news,

00:13:55.220 but that's the thing

00:13:55.920 with the Faisal Hussein case,

00:13:58.260 there is no real news

00:14:00.060 because this investigation

00:14:01.760 proved to be

00:14:02.600 a whole lot of nothing.

00:14:04.560 For example,

00:14:05.460 we were told

00:14:06.140 that Hussein 1.00

00:14:06.860 suffered from mental illness,

00:14:08.240 but we had already

00:14:10.000 been informed of that

00:14:11.140 when that press release

00:14:12.400 was concocted

00:14:13.320 some 11 months ago.

00:14:15.780 Moving on,

00:14:16.880 the biggest question,

00:14:18.200 the thing everybody

00:14:19.500 was waiting to hear

00:14:20.820 was this.

00:14:22.220 What was Hussein's motive?

00:14:24.920 And the answer is,

00:14:26.040 well,

00:14:27.000 the cops have no answer.

00:14:29.120 They have no idea

00:14:30.160 what his motive was

00:14:31.220 despite their

00:14:32.220 intense investigation.

00:14:34.480 Amazing.

00:14:35.860 Indeed,

00:14:36.280 writing in the Toronto Sun,

00:14:37.400 columnist Joe Warmington

00:14:38.840 nailed it.

00:14:40.140 Wrote Warmington,

00:14:41.080 quote,

00:14:41.760 sorry,

00:14:42.320 Juliana Kozis

00:14:43.460 and Reese Fallon.

00:14:45.320 They just don't know

00:14:46.540 why you were murdered

00:14:47.480 by Faisal Hussein

00:14:48.720 on the Danforth

00:14:49.680 on July 22nd,

00:14:51.600 2018.

00:14:53.160 The one question

00:14:53.960 the family

00:14:54.480 and the public

00:14:55.120 wanted to know

00:14:55.840 is why,

00:14:56.620 Chief Mark Saunders

00:14:57.580 said Friday.

00:14:58.980 Although we collected

00:15:00.000 all of the evidence

00:15:01.120 that was available

00:15:02.320 to us

00:15:02.800 for this crime,

00:15:04.320 a crime where

00:15:04.880 the shooter

00:15:05.360 died at the scene,

00:15:06.560 we may never know

00:15:08.300 the answer to why.

00:15:10.320 To add even more

00:15:11.320 insult to injury,

00:15:12.420 Saunders said,

00:15:13.520 there's no evidence

00:15:14.820 Hussein was affiliated

00:15:16.200 with radical ideologies,

00:15:18.760 hate groups,

00:15:19.480 or terrorist organizations,

00:15:21.620 but he did have

00:15:22.880 a mental health history.

00:15:24.820 End quote.

00:15:26.140 Oh,

00:15:27.020 it's an insult

00:15:27.980 to injury,

00:15:28.660 all right.

00:15:29.580 Also of note,

00:15:30.420 the investigation

00:15:31.220 didn't even touch

00:15:32.300 upon a sidebar issue

00:15:34.620 regarding the Danforth

00:15:35.740 shooting case

00:15:36.400 that points to

00:15:37.700 quite an enormous

00:15:38.780 elephant in the room.

00:15:40.540 For example,

00:15:41.080 a global news report

00:15:42.240 from last year

00:15:42.940 revealed that in 2017,

00:15:45.580 Faisal's brother,

00:15:46.400 Fahad,

00:15:47.260 suffered a drug overdose

00:15:48.580 and to this day

00:15:50.200 remains in a coma.

00:15:51.320 But get this folks,

00:15:53.120 in September of 2017,

00:15:55.600 Durham Regional Police

00:15:56.900 executed a search warrant

00:15:58.600 of Fahad's surety,

00:16:00.800 Mazum Ansari.

00:16:02.680 Police seized 33 guns

00:16:05.180 and even more concerning,

00:16:08.180 a staggering 42 kilograms

00:16:10.920 of the deadly drug

00:16:13.040 carfentanil,

00:16:14.520 worth some $13 million.

00:16:16.460 Make no mistake,

00:16:17.720 42 kilos

00:16:19.140 is enough carfentanil

00:16:20.920 to kill thousands

00:16:22.760 of people.

00:16:24.020 And yet,

00:16:25.040 this didn't seem

00:16:25.960 to be a big deal

00:16:26.880 to police

00:16:27.460 when investigating

00:16:28.380 Faisal's death spree? 0.87

00:16:30.780 Really?

00:16:31.740 Also,

00:16:32.440 as I mentioned

00:16:32.940 off the top,

00:16:33.800 Faisal selectively 0.98

00:16:35.280 killed people that night.

00:16:37.060 And here's another

00:16:38.060 uncomfortable truth

00:16:39.060 as the son's

00:16:39.740 Warmington notes

00:16:40.480 in his superb story,

00:16:42.080 Hussein's one act 0.53

00:16:43.400 of compassion

00:16:44.100 on that terrible evening

00:16:45.540 was sparing the life

00:16:47.240 of Jaspel Singh,

00:16:49.300 who at one point

00:16:50.360 was a point-blank

00:16:51.980 sitting duck target

00:16:53.400 for Hussein,

00:16:55.220 but instead of

00:16:56.080 executing Singh,

00:16:57.580 Hussein told him,

00:16:58.840 quote,

00:16:59.460 don't worry,

00:17:00.580 I'm not going to

00:17:01.660 shoot you, 0.94

00:17:02.700 end quote.

00:17:03.980 But why?

00:17:05.240 This is something

00:17:06.220 that no doubt

00:17:07.160 really drives

00:17:08.020 the progressives'

00:17:09.460 cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs,

00:17:10.740 I should think.

00:17:11.740 Also glossed over

00:17:13.220 was the allegation

00:17:14.580 that Hussein 1.00

00:17:15.340 was reportedly

00:17:16.520 in possession

00:17:17.200 of several

00:17:18.420 conspiracy theory DVDs

00:17:20.380 on the topics

00:17:21.400 of 9-11

00:17:22.120 and U.S. wars

00:17:23.580 in Iraq

00:17:24.300 and Afghanistan.

00:17:26.300 But what the heck,

00:17:27.500 despite all this,

00:17:28.420 let's just stay

00:17:29.120 with the narrative

00:17:29.680 that Faisal Hussein

00:17:31.060 was merely

00:17:31.560 a troubled kid

00:17:32.940 who struggled

00:17:34.620 with mental illness

00:17:35.560 and had a really

00:17:36.680 bad day.

00:17:38.040 Yeah,

00:17:38.380 that's the ticket.

00:17:39.780 But tell me,

00:17:40.620 are you buying

00:17:41.700 what they're selling,

00:17:43.020 folks?

00:17:43.900 I'm not.

00:17:45.100 Indeed,

00:17:45.500 I predicted

00:17:46.000 almost a year ago

00:17:47.020 that we'd never

00:17:48.120 get to know

00:17:48.700 the truth

00:17:49.280 about the Danforth

00:17:50.660 shooting.

00:17:51.940 And thanks to

00:17:52.600 the Friday release

00:17:53.680 of the Toronto

00:17:54.420 police investigation,

00:17:56.140 I have been,

00:17:57.200 unfortunately,

00:17:58.720 proven right.

00:18:00.160 Indeed,

00:18:00.680 thanks to the virus

00:18:01.820 that is political

00:18:02.600 correctness,

00:18:04.000 could it be

00:18:04.440 the real story

00:18:05.340 is being concealed

00:18:06.740 right before

00:18:07.700 our collective eyes?

00:18:09.760 Because apparently,

00:18:11.080 for the powers that be

00:18:12.200 who managed

00:18:13.300 the radical Islam file,

00:18:15.360 to paraphrase

00:18:16.140 Jack Nicholson's

00:18:17.140 famous line

00:18:17.860 in A Few Good Men,

00:18:19.640 we just can't

00:18:20.800 handle the truth,

00:18:22.220 so the truth

00:18:23.500 must be sanitized,

00:18:25.780 you know,

00:18:26.620 for our own

00:18:27.760 protection.

00:18:29.380 Gee,

00:18:29.660 it makes you wonder

00:18:30.440 if the Toronto

00:18:31.200 police service

00:18:32.000 also hired

00:18:32.700 that Islamic 0.99

00:18:33.360 spin doctor,

00:18:34.260 Mohammed Hashim,

00:18:35.720 to vet their report

00:18:36.960 prior to releasing it.

00:18:38.800 You know,

00:18:39.240 to make absolutely

00:18:40.780 certain things

00:18:41.700 are squeaky clean

00:18:42.780 and that the right

00:18:44.200 narrative is being

00:18:45.340 maintained when it

00:18:46.800 comes to the

00:18:47.740 religion of peace.

00:18:49.060 I mean,

00:18:49.920 killing and maiming

00:18:50.920 innocent Canadians,

00:18:52.340 that's bad enough,

00:18:53.340 but giving Islam 0.72

00:18:54.700 a bad rap?

00:18:56.340 For our progressive

00:18:57.660 protectors,

00:18:58.940 that would truly be

00:19:00.860 the most heinous

00:19:02.680 crime of all.

00:19:03.960 Well folks,

00:19:18.760 you may recall

00:19:19.300 that earlier this

00:19:20.240 month,

00:19:20.640 street preacher

00:19:21.240 David Lynn

00:19:21.860 of the Christ

00:19:22.500 Forgiveness Ministry

00:19:23.500 was arrested

00:19:24.220 when he began

00:19:25.260 preaching

00:19:25.700 in Toronto's

00:19:27.000 gay village. 0.97

00:19:28.260 Some members

00:19:28.820 of the LGBT

00:19:29.700 community

00:19:30.500 took exception

00:19:31.460 to Lynn's

00:19:32.520 street corner

00:19:33.100 sermon,

00:19:33.540 and shortly

00:19:34.420 after that,

00:19:35.260 Lynn was arrested

00:19:36.220 and charged

00:19:37.360 with disturbing

00:19:38.120 the peace.

00:19:39.420 Lynn was also

00:19:40.320 ordered to avoid

00:19:41.220 preaching anywhere

00:19:42.000 in the gay village

00:19:42.840 during pride celebrations,

00:19:44.940 even though a

00:19:45.720 Toronto police

00:19:46.480 spokesman said

00:19:47.460 that what Lynn

00:19:48.640 had preached

00:19:49.460 was not hate speech.

00:19:52.080 Well,

00:19:52.460 on Friday,

00:19:53.220 it was deja vu

00:19:54.420 all over again.

00:19:55.540 Another preacher,

00:19:56.480 Doré Love,

00:19:57.500 went to the same

00:19:58.260 area of Toronto

00:19:58.960 and just like Lynn,

00:20:00.100 he was confronted

00:20:01.320 by people

00:20:02.140 who did not

00:20:03.300 want him

00:20:04.080 to be there

00:20:04.820 even though

00:20:05.740 he was in

00:20:06.260 a public place.

00:20:07.820 And again,

00:20:08.420 just like Lynn,

00:20:09.540 the police

00:20:10.040 responded to

00:20:10.760 the commotion,

00:20:11.860 charging Love

00:20:12.580 with,

00:20:13.000 you guessed it,

00:20:14.560 disturbing the peace

00:20:15.840 just for,

00:20:17.240 what,

00:20:17.840 preaching the gospel?

00:20:19.200 Well,

00:20:19.800 apparently,

00:20:20.500 that's how we roll

00:20:21.540 these days

00:20:22.120 when it comes

00:20:22.720 to free speech.

00:20:24.020 Apparently,

00:20:24.660 some people think

00:20:25.500 they have the right

00:20:26.300 not to be offended,

00:20:27.700 and for whatever

00:20:28.900 reason,

00:20:29.880 law enforcement

00:20:30.580 is catering

00:20:31.560 to the whims

00:20:32.520 of these people.

00:20:34.140 And joining me now

00:20:35.060 right here in studio

00:20:36.000 is Doré Love.

00:20:37.200 Doré,

00:20:37.660 welcome to the

00:20:38.360 Ezra Levent Show.

00:20:39.320 Thanks for having me.

00:20:40.200 A pleasure.

00:20:40.960 Now, Doré,

00:20:41.620 before we get more

00:20:43.240 into the meat and potatoes

00:20:44.180 of this,

00:20:45.160 take us back

00:20:46.280 to Friday

00:20:47.600 when you went

00:20:48.580 to the

00:20:49.600 church

00:20:51.220 and Carleton

00:20:52.340 area of the city

00:20:53.300 and with the intent

00:20:55.780 to preach a sermon.

00:20:56.880 what exactly

00:20:58.600 happened,

00:20:59.500 and probably

00:21:00.700 more importantly,

00:21:01.640 given the context

00:21:02.380 of this story,

00:21:03.500 what exactly

00:21:04.580 did you say?

00:21:06.080 Well,

00:21:06.520 what happened was

00:21:07.240 we were going,

00:21:08.240 we decided to,

00:21:09.460 well,

00:21:09.680 actually,

00:21:10.040 this week,

00:21:10.500 we're actually going

00:21:11.100 around a lot of places

00:21:11.980 preaching.

00:21:13.000 Because,

00:21:13.320 so Thursdays and Saturdays

00:21:14.680 were usually downtown,

00:21:15.460 but every other week

00:21:16.500 we go all these

00:21:17.440 different places.

00:21:17.960 So we decided

00:21:18.400 to go to Carleton

00:21:19.020 and church that day.

00:21:20.760 And the festivities

00:21:22.220 was actually

00:21:22.920 a little bit away,

00:21:24.000 so we decided

00:21:24.600 to kind of

00:21:25.320 not to be right

00:21:26.660 in the middle

00:21:27.160 of their festivities.

00:21:27.920 We kind of like

00:21:28.500 set up a little bit

00:21:29.760 down the street.

00:21:30.660 And we just

00:21:31.080 started preaching.

00:21:31.640 We started preaching

00:21:32.120 the love of God,

00:21:32.980 how God loves everyone,

00:21:34.000 how everyone

00:21:34.340 could be redeemed,

00:21:35.120 how there's hope

00:21:35.540 for everyone.

00:21:36.720 And then my kind

00:21:38.160 of preaching style

00:21:38.940 is I like to engage

00:21:39.760 with the public.

00:21:40.400 So as I preach,

00:21:41.640 if someone has a question,

00:21:42.700 I will stop preaching

00:21:43.420 and I'll start

00:21:44.040 answering the questions.

00:21:45.500 And just to be

00:21:46.600 100% clear,

00:21:48.160 there was no,

00:21:49.320 you know,

00:21:49.900 fire and brimstone

00:21:51.100 kind of,

00:21:51.540 like, you know,

00:21:52.060 you're going to burn

00:21:52.760 in hell

00:21:53.200 for your sexual orientation.

00:21:54.760 Nothing like that.

00:21:55.400 You were just

00:21:56.220 preaching the gospel.

00:21:57.480 Absolutely,

00:21:57.780 nothing like that.

00:21:58.240 If you go to my

00:21:59.180 YouTube channel,

00:22:00.040 Dory Love,

00:22:00.600 you can see that

00:22:01.340 my message is consistent

00:22:02.320 and it's a message

00:22:04.080 of love,

00:22:04.640 it's a message of hope

00:22:05.360 and I always take

00:22:06.140 a calm,

00:22:07.040 passionate,

00:22:08.820 you know,

00:22:09.240 patient approach

00:22:09.900 because I kind of,

00:22:11.140 I had a lesbian 0.98

00:22:11.680 in my family.

00:22:12.340 My sister was lesbian 1.00

00:22:13.340 for a long time.

00:22:13.900 I have Muslim in-laws.

00:22:15.420 So I have people

00:22:15.980 from all different

00:22:16.560 walks of life

00:22:17.060 in my family.

00:22:17.580 So I have a compassion,

00:22:18.600 understanding,

00:22:19.200 and empathy for them.

00:22:20.260 So I don't take

00:22:21.060 that approach.

00:22:21.440 I don't take

00:22:21.760 the Helen Brinstein

00:22:22.320 approach.

00:22:22.620 I believe you can

00:22:23.400 catch more flies

00:22:24.020 with sugar

00:22:24.500 than you do

00:22:25.440 with doo-doo,

00:22:25.940 you know?

00:22:26.540 Gotcha.

00:22:27.340 And without further ado,

00:22:28.880 we have a clip,

00:22:30.100 ladies and gentlemen,

00:22:30.920 of what happened

00:22:31.800 and the eventual

00:22:34.020 arrival of the

00:22:35.720 boys in blue.

00:22:36.360 Let's check it out.

00:22:36.980 This is a crime.

00:22:38.680 This is a huge

00:22:39.500 joke.

00:22:42.760 And so the Christians 0.98

00:22:44.420 are going to stay

00:22:46.100 home and pray.

00:22:53.300 So once again,

00:22:54.260 you're feeling convicted

00:22:55.040 with a fourth mother.

00:22:56.520 You're feeling convicted

00:22:57.440 of your sins.

00:22:58.180 That's the only thing.

00:23:00.020 And so once again,

00:23:01.360 when I came out the world

00:23:02.300 and gave this one

00:23:03.080 and only son,

00:23:04.060 I want to believe

00:23:05.060 in the past

00:23:05.920 that will never

00:23:06.360 last in life.

00:23:07.700 The Bible says that

00:23:08.600 God didn't come into 0.95

00:23:09.420 the world to defend

00:23:10.240 the world,

00:23:11.020 but through him.

00:23:12.660 Only silencing him.

00:23:15.080 They're arresting him.

00:23:16.440 They're arresting him.

00:23:18.440 Well, I have to say,

00:23:32.000 Dorey, it reminds me

00:23:34.100 of the climatic scene

00:23:35.640 of Horton Hears a Who.

00:23:37.400 You know, all those people

00:23:38.820 with noisemakers

00:23:39.900 and various musical instruments

00:23:43.740 and what have you.

00:23:44.220 Obviously trying to drown you out.

00:23:45.940 Cries of go home,

00:23:49.020 get lost. 0.65

00:23:50.280 We're not into

00:23:51.540 what you're preaching.

00:23:53.380 So needless to say,

00:23:55.240 it was a pretty hostile crowd.

00:23:58.200 And yet the police came

00:24:01.940 to charge and take you away.

00:24:04.440 Yes.

00:24:04.660 And if you look at the video,

00:24:05.620 the last thing that I'm saying

00:24:06.680 is Jesus didn't come

00:24:08.640 into the world

00:24:09.420 to condemn the world.

00:24:10.620 And at that moment,

00:24:11.440 that's when they grabbed me

00:24:12.480 and put me in handcuffs.

00:24:13.880 And that's funny

00:24:14.520 because, you know,

00:24:15.100 usually people say,

00:24:16.020 don't condemn us,

00:24:17.060 don't judge us.

00:24:18.080 And if I finished,

00:24:19.380 if they would have

00:24:19.780 let me finish my sentence,

00:24:20.740 it goes,

00:24:21.060 Jesus didn't come into the world

00:24:22.020 to contend the world,

00:24:22.720 but through him,

00:24:23.520 the world would have life

00:24:24.460 and have it more abundantly.

00:24:26.240 And so that's when the,

00:24:27.100 there was actually a cop there before.

00:24:28.520 And when they started whistling

00:24:29.300 in my ear

00:24:29.940 and doing a whole bunch of things,

00:24:30.880 I looked at them

00:24:31.440 and I was like,

00:24:32.420 yeah, do you think

00:24:33.100 this is like legal?

00:24:33.920 Aren't they like,

00:24:34.440 you know,

00:24:34.980 preaching my personal space

00:24:36.160 or something?

00:24:36.500 Because she actually had a whistle 1.00

00:24:37.540 and it was right in my ear

00:24:38.380 and my ear started ringing.

00:24:39.940 And he just gave me

00:24:43.760 but then,

00:24:44.720 yeah,

00:24:44.940 as soon as I said

00:24:45.420 Jesus didn't come into the world

00:24:46.380 to condemn the world,

00:24:47.120 he grabbed my mic,

00:24:48.400 he grabbed my arm

00:24:49.580 and he twisted it behind my back

00:24:51.340 like he was angry.

00:24:52.660 And I was like,

00:24:53.460 yo, bro,

00:24:54.240 I'm not resisting.

00:24:54.920 I'm a peaceful person.

00:24:55.740 Like, if you want me,

00:24:56.640 and then he just

00:24:57.820 didn't say anything,

00:24:58.620 just put the one

00:24:59.980 on this wrist,

00:25:01.380 very tight,

00:25:02.140 and then just put my hands

00:25:03.280 behind my back,

00:25:03.980 grabbed my microphone.

00:25:05.000 I thought he was going

00:25:05.640 to smash it on the ground,

00:25:06.780 but he just grabbed it

00:25:07.480 and I guess he put it down

00:25:08.340 and then they just like

00:25:09.460 whisked me away.

00:25:10.920 And Dory,

00:25:11.660 it's notable,

00:25:12.960 as you said earlier,

00:25:14.200 you set up a good block away

00:25:15.860 from the main festivities.

00:25:18.040 People came to you,

00:25:19.560 I understand.

00:25:20.220 It wasn't you

00:25:20.840 crashing a party

00:25:22.040 and, you know,

00:25:23.200 that one woman, 0.61

00:25:24.100 you know,

00:25:24.480 constantly saying,

00:25:25.300 we're not into

00:25:25.860 what you're preaching.

00:25:26.780 Well, to me,

00:25:28.280 if that's the case,

00:25:29.000 lady,

00:25:29.540 keep walking.

00:25:30.580 I mean, like,

00:25:31.180 you don't live on this corner,

00:25:33.060 I presume.

00:25:33.840 So,

00:25:34.520 I'm trying to understand

00:25:36.480 if they don't like the message,

00:25:38.940 why not just walk away

00:25:40.200 from the messenger

00:25:40.900 as opposed to

00:25:41.960 getting law enforcement involved

00:25:43.500 to actually putting

00:25:44.640 the messenger into jail?

00:25:46.180 Well, that's the same thing

00:25:46.760 I said, too.

00:25:47.240 So, the theme,

00:25:48.360 a lot of the back and forth

00:25:49.480 was, you know,

00:25:50.680 we don't want you here.

00:25:51.820 Well, I'm like,

00:25:52.200 well, I'm not here for you.

00:25:52.900 I'm here for the one person

00:25:53.680 that does want me here.

00:25:54.820 And I even pointed out

00:25:56.480 that their festivities

00:25:58.280 was further up the road.

00:25:59.920 So, I said,

00:26:00.380 look,

00:26:00.560 if you want to enjoy

00:26:01.200 your pride

00:26:02.280 or your march,

00:26:02.960 just continue enjoying it

00:26:04.000 up the road.

00:26:04.360 That's why I set up

00:26:04.980 that down here.

00:26:05.960 The fact that you came here,

00:26:07.700 maybe it's because

00:26:08.340 I have the truth

00:26:08.920 and maybe because

00:26:09.620 you know that I have the truth

00:26:10.780 you want to hear it.

00:26:11.740 And it kind of seems like,

00:26:12.700 you know,

00:26:12.940 they want people to

00:26:14.440 not only tolerate

00:26:16.880 but accept

00:26:17.660 and affirm what they do

00:26:19.120 even at the expense

00:26:20.760 of going against

00:26:21.640 my own convictions.

00:26:22.440 And that's what it seems like.

00:26:23.280 They come there,

00:26:23.760 some people come there

00:26:24.540 and they might want to listen,

00:26:25.640 but other people come there

00:26:26.560 to say,

00:26:26.980 no,

00:26:27.480 you're wrong

00:26:28.140 if you don't see things my way.

00:26:29.440 You're a bigot.

00:26:30.060 You're a sociopath.

00:26:31.540 You're all these different things.

00:26:32.320 So I think really what it is

00:26:33.520 is they're coming

00:26:35.460 to make me affirm

00:26:36.620 who they are

00:26:37.320 rather than letting me

00:26:38.100 be who I am.

00:26:38.900 Yeah.

00:26:39.300 And I think, Dory,

00:26:40.620 this is the scary thing

00:26:41.880 about freedom of speech

00:26:43.160 today in Canada

00:26:44.400 is the fact that

00:26:45.980 it's not about

00:26:47.520 getting engaged

00:26:48.620 in a feisty debate anymore.

00:26:50.660 It's about certain people

00:26:52.720 saying,

00:26:53.740 because you have

00:26:54.900 a differing opinion,

00:26:56.540 you have to be silenced.

00:26:58.440 Yes.

00:26:58.620 You have to be shut down.

00:27:00.440 The liberals

00:27:01.080 and the progressives

00:27:02.260 they're all about

00:27:04.060 diversity is our strength.

00:27:05.640 But it seems to me

00:27:06.600 that when it comes

00:27:07.600 to diversity of opinions,

00:27:09.680 you must march

00:27:10.940 in a lockstep

00:27:12.140 in one direction.

00:27:13.140 And if you don't,

00:27:14.240 we're going to silence you.

00:27:15.620 Yeah.

00:27:15.800 It seems like that's

00:27:16.660 where they draw the line.

00:27:17.420 They draw the line.

00:27:18.120 It's not even,

00:27:18.700 it's a fake free speech.

00:27:20.100 It's a,

00:27:20.700 you're free to say

00:27:21.640 what you want to say

00:27:22.280 if you agree with me.

00:27:23.480 Yeah.

00:27:23.760 It's not free at all.

00:27:25.940 And you know,

00:27:26.560 Dory,

00:27:26.820 I'd be remiss

00:27:27.620 in not telling our audience

00:27:28.620 that this is the first time

00:27:29.940 we met.

00:27:30.400 We met,

00:27:30.720 I think it was more

00:27:31.540 than two years ago.

00:27:33.520 We were told

00:27:34.620 that you were again

00:27:35.940 on public property

00:27:36.920 in the Yonge Dundas area

00:27:38.600 in Toronto's downtown core

00:27:41.220 outside the Eton Centre.

00:27:43.440 And folks,

00:27:44.660 check out this footage.

00:27:45.640 It wasn't law enforcement,

00:27:46.980 but for some reason

00:27:48.120 an Eton Centre security guard

00:27:50.780 decided he was going

00:27:53.100 to shut down Dory Love

00:27:55.960 even though Dory wasn't

00:27:57.820 on Cadillac Fairview property.

00:27:59.740 Check it out.

00:28:02.480 So actually,

00:28:03.380 what you're saying

00:28:03.900 is the Quran is full of hate. 0.99

00:28:05.560 But why are you arguing

00:28:06.780 about the Quran?

00:28:07.640 You're here to...

00:28:08.160 Amen.

00:28:08.840 You're here to...

00:28:09.560 Amen.

00:28:10.360 Why are you even talking

00:28:11.300 about the Quran?

00:28:11.720 No, hold on.

00:28:12.100 Let me, let me talk.

00:28:12.700 No, okay, hold on.

00:28:13.600 I don't got to let you talk.

00:28:14.400 What do you want to say?

00:28:15.200 You were...

00:28:15.560 Get out of here.

00:28:16.500 Hey.

00:28:17.100 No, calm down.

00:28:18.040 Calm down.

00:28:18.520 First of all,

00:28:19.460 go ahead, call him.

00:28:20.540 Yes, call him

00:28:21.080 because I have every...

00:28:21.800 Now, what...

00:28:24.500 First of all,

00:28:25.680 by him even laying a hand on you

00:28:27.680 is crossing the line entirely

00:28:30.560 in terms of assault.

00:28:31.860 I know he didn't hurt you

00:28:32.720 and, you know,

00:28:33.420 you would never claim

00:28:34.160 you were hurt by him,

00:28:35.020 but he shouldn't be manhandling you

00:28:37.080 and your audio equipment.

00:28:39.480 I remember at the time

00:28:40.320 we reached out

00:28:41.180 to the Eton Centre

00:28:43.280 public affairs people

00:28:44.360 and they said

00:28:45.000 that was inappropriate.

00:28:47.560 They never followed up

00:28:49.380 with what his disciplinary action is.

00:28:52.140 They'd probably hide behind

00:28:53.260 private security

00:28:56.220 and, you know,

00:28:56.980 this sort of thing.

00:28:58.860 What was his agenda

00:29:00.540 on that evening, Dorey,

00:29:02.500 in trying to shut you down?

00:29:03.660 Well, once again,

00:29:04.580 if you see the video,

00:29:05.440 another peaceful back and forth.

00:29:07.980 That's my style.

00:29:08.840 I like to preach,

00:29:09.480 but when you speak,

00:29:10.120 I'll go back and forth.

00:29:11.240 So a young Muslim lady 1.00

00:29:12.320 in the crowd

00:29:12.800 was just asking me

00:29:13.680 about the Quran

00:29:14.500 in comparison to the Bible.

00:29:16.140 And that's all I was doing

00:29:17.080 was answering the question,

00:29:18.500 not in my own opinion,

00:29:19.580 actually going to the text,

00:29:20.700 actually reading the text.

00:29:21.840 And I read some unfavorable texts,

00:29:23.940 if you want to call them

00:29:24.600 unfavorable,

00:29:25.040 in the Quran,

00:29:25.640 but it's in there.

00:29:26.960 And people were starting to say,

00:29:28.900 well, you know,

00:29:29.200 that's hateful.

00:29:29.800 And I was agreeing with them.

00:29:30.720 I'm like, well,

00:29:31.220 if you believe that,

00:29:32.420 if I'm reading the Quran

00:29:33.780 and you believe this is hateful,

00:29:35.020 well, you're saying

00:29:35.760 the Quran is hateful. 1.00

00:29:36.660 And I think that's what

00:29:37.520 triggered the security guard,

00:29:38.700 I'm assuming he was Muslim,

00:29:40.080 to come all the way

00:29:41.140 from the Eton Centre,

00:29:42.340 all the way to where

00:29:43.160 I was preaching,

00:29:44.300 to try to, once again,

00:29:45.660 stifle a minister,

00:29:46.800 which is illegal,

00:29:47.760 stifling a minister

00:29:48.480 in the process of his duties.

00:29:50.100 And I think that's

00:29:51.100 what triggered him.

00:29:51.620 I think that, you know,

00:29:52.820 there's a saying

00:29:53.960 that's saying that

00:29:54.500 in a time of,

00:29:56.720 or in a time of lies,

00:29:58.440 or no,

00:29:58.720 in a time of universal lies,

00:30:00.040 telling the truth

00:30:00.740 is revolutionary.

00:30:02.740 So I think,

00:30:03.520 oh, the truth

00:30:03.960 just triggered these people,

00:30:04.860 you know?

00:30:05.900 It's uncanny

00:30:06.780 because I think

00:30:07.580 even a police officer

00:30:08.920 to have tried

00:30:09.940 to shut you down

00:30:10.700 like he did

00:30:11.440 would have been

00:30:11.900 over the line.

00:30:12.680 But certainly

00:30:13.080 for a private security guard,

00:30:15.460 I mean,

00:30:15.980 that is completely

00:30:17.280 out of his lane.

00:30:18.900 And by the way,

00:30:20.040 we can't let it be said,

00:30:22.500 you know,

00:30:22.800 speaking of Islam

00:30:24.220 and speaking of

00:30:25.340 preaching hate,

00:30:26.380 you know,

00:30:26.800 this has been

00:30:27.400 quite a month.

00:30:28.160 I mean,

00:30:28.660 we had David Lynn

00:30:30.200 arrested in the gay village.

00:30:32.900 We had,

00:30:33.960 when the Raptors

00:30:34.880 were in the playoffs,

00:30:35.700 we had some drunken Lugan.

00:30:37.340 He came out

00:30:37.880 and he said

00:30:38.260 some really vulgar thing

00:30:39.920 to the reporter,

00:30:41.720 you know,

00:30:42.000 I want to blank you

00:30:43.180 right in the blank.

00:30:44.080 It's an off-repeated phrase.

00:30:46.400 It wasn't funny

00:30:46.960 the first time

00:30:47.560 it was said.

00:30:48.320 It's not funny

00:30:49.020 the millionth time

00:30:49.740 it's said.

00:30:50.360 Not at all.

00:30:50.800 It was rude.

00:30:51.600 It was vulgar.

00:30:52.260 But certainly,

00:30:53.100 you know,

00:30:53.460 it doesn't meet

00:30:54.560 the benchmark of hate.

00:30:55.500 And certainly,

00:30:56.560 all the talk radio

00:30:58.220 of the day

00:30:58.760 was all about,

00:31:00.020 we've got to find this guy.

00:31:01.160 His image is in high def.

00:31:02.880 Oh, boy,

00:31:03.580 I'd love to be his boss

00:31:04.640 and fire him 0.96

00:31:05.500 for being that way.

00:31:06.640 Okay.

00:31:07.600 And,

00:31:08.280 but the trifecta was,

00:31:10.400 we went down

00:31:11.320 to cover the Al-Quds rally.

00:31:14.280 And if you want to

00:31:15.660 get a barometer

00:31:16.520 for hate speech

00:31:17.620 in the city,

00:31:18.280 please, folks,

00:31:19.240 you know,

00:31:19.420 go down to Al-Quds 1.00

00:31:20.720 in June.

00:31:22.020 And what was especially

00:31:24.040 eye-opening,

00:31:25.600 Dore,

00:31:26.060 was one individual

00:31:27.360 that we spoke about

00:31:28.460 that actually openly

00:31:30.660 expressed his desire

00:31:33.560 for Sharia law

00:31:35.500 and that under Sharia law,

00:31:37.980 it's,

00:31:38.860 hey,

00:31:39.020 no hard feelings,

00:31:39.960 but we're going to have

00:31:40.980 to execute gay people. 0.98

00:31:42.840 Let's check out that clip.

00:31:45.820 In Gaza.

00:31:46.800 We executed according

00:31:48.000 to Islamic law.

00:31:49.340 Islam doesn't endorse gayism.

00:31:51.460 Islam doesn't endorse homosexuality.

00:31:53.300 Okay,

00:31:53.820 so would you like to see

00:31:54.660 Sharia law in Canada

00:31:55.920 replace Canadian law?

00:31:57.820 At some point,

00:31:58.500 it will.

00:31:59.260 You know,

00:31:59.500 because we have families,

00:32:01.320 we are making babies.

00:32:02.480 You're not.

00:32:03.680 Your population

00:32:04.880 is going down the slump.

00:32:06.460 That's right.

00:32:06.780 Right?

00:32:07.360 By 2016,

00:32:08.700 Muslims will be 1.00

00:32:09.600 the biggest religious group

00:32:11.220 the world over.

00:32:12.320 What are you going to do then?

00:32:13.840 Actually,

00:32:14.280 do you want to oppose Sharia 0.93

00:32:15.020 even then?

00:32:16.660 Wow,

00:32:17.220 it never fails

00:32:18.720 to send some chills

00:32:19.620 up my spine

00:32:20.260 when I hear that individual.

00:32:21.420 I'm kind of kicking myself, Dore.

00:32:22.620 It came out later

00:32:23.360 in our interview.

00:32:24.020 He actually has children.

00:32:25.560 I wish I had thought

00:32:26.820 of asking him

00:32:27.940 if one of his kids

00:32:29.720 were to come out

00:32:30.460 of the closet,

00:32:31.080 so to speak,

00:32:31.740 and proclaim

00:32:32.420 that they were gay. 0.74

00:32:33.600 Would his unconditional love

00:32:35.220 as a father

00:32:35.880 eclipses desire

00:32:37.440 for Sharia law

00:32:38.400 and the gay killing proviso.

00:32:42.240 To me,

00:32:43.100 this almost sounds

00:32:43.960 like the kind of character

00:32:45.200 that might subscribe

00:32:46.320 to the concept

00:32:47.800 of honor killing,

00:32:48.880 but that's besides the point.

00:32:50.480 I think the point is

00:32:51.560 this video

00:32:53.000 got several hundred thousand views.

00:32:55.240 It got retweeted

00:32:56.180 around the world,

00:32:57.780 and yet,

00:32:59.020 in terms of the local media,

00:33:01.160 in terms of the local government,

00:33:03.240 in terms of local law enforcement,

00:33:05.800 absolutely nothing.

00:33:08.300 And I'm just trying to,

00:33:10.460 can you connect the dots

00:33:11.580 from here,

00:33:12.080 for me here, Dore,

00:33:13.260 in terms of

00:33:14.040 why is it

00:33:15.640 that someone being rude

00:33:17.740 at a Raptors game,

00:33:19.040 someone preaching the gospel

00:33:20.500 that somebody else

00:33:21.620 doesn't want to hear,

00:33:22.800 these are very important crimes

00:33:25.040 that must be punished,

00:33:26.780 and someone advocating

00:33:28.160 for the death of a person

00:33:30.180 based on their sexual orientation,

00:33:32.180 it's a,

00:33:32.660 oh well,

00:33:33.620 hey,

00:33:33.820 what can you do?

00:33:35.180 You know,

00:33:35.560 it's complicated.

00:33:37.620 It seems like,

00:33:38.920 I think about this all the time,

00:33:40.600 it seems like maybe

00:33:41.620 because we're setting

00:33:42.680 the laws aside

00:33:43.760 for overcorrection,

00:33:45.160 maybe because of 9-11,

00:33:47.080 or since 9-11,

00:33:47.980 it seems like Muslims 0.92

00:33:48.640 became sympathetic figures.

00:33:50.000 It seems like

00:33:50.560 now because,

00:33:51.780 you know,

00:33:52.000 they got this whole

00:33:52.700 love is love movement,

00:33:53.920 or they try to,

00:33:54.940 you know,

00:33:56.260 propagate this phony narrative

00:33:57.480 that homosexuals 1.00

00:33:58.800 are being persecuted

00:33:59.500 everywhere,

00:33:59.880 everywhere.

00:34:00.940 So it just seems like

00:34:01.660 the public has this,

00:34:02.740 you know,

00:34:03.240 they've made these people

00:34:04.400 in their sympathetic figures,

00:34:05.360 no matter what their ideology is,

00:34:06.660 no matter how they act,

00:34:07.500 no matter,

00:34:08.320 no matter to the,

00:34:09.620 even all the evidence

00:34:10.620 to the contrary,

00:34:11.680 they have made them

00:34:12.280 simple,

00:34:12.980 sympathetic figures,

00:34:13.740 and I think there's

00:34:14.380 like an overcorrection

00:34:15.600 going on.

00:34:15.980 I don't want to think

00:34:16.840 it's something nefarious,

00:34:18.060 but I talked to the police officer

00:34:19.620 that,

00:34:20.060 not the police officers

00:34:21.460 that arrested me,

00:34:21.860 but I talked to a few police officers,

00:34:23.580 and they're like,

00:34:24.180 a lot of them

00:34:24.680 really support what we do,

00:34:25.800 and they say,

00:34:26.260 you know what,

00:34:26.820 we wish,

00:34:27.440 like they'll say,

00:34:27.940 we wish you had free speech,

00:34:29.300 we wish that we could do this,

00:34:30.680 but we have orders

00:34:32.140 to act a certain way

00:34:34.260 towards certain people

00:34:35.480 when they're in certain situations.

00:34:37.280 And so it's like,

00:34:37.960 so these,

00:34:38.980 even though I don't want

00:34:39.660 to think it's something

00:34:40.220 nefarious,

00:34:40.840 if the police

00:34:42.060 only can do

00:34:43.100 what they're directed to do,

00:34:44.060 their hands are tied.

00:34:45.320 So it's like,

00:34:45.840 so someone higher up,

00:34:47.240 someone,

00:34:47.680 you know,

00:34:48.420 at a higher pay grade

00:34:50.100 is sending these orders

00:34:51.560 out there,

00:34:51.980 and for some reason,

00:34:52.900 over-correction,

00:34:54.140 maybe an agendic reason,

00:34:56.060 that they're targeting

00:34:57.460 specific groups,

00:34:59.500 and actually elevating

00:35:02.100 another ideology

00:35:03.440 over another set of beliefs.

00:35:06.000 You know,

00:35:06.300 I think you're right about that,

00:35:07.960 and I think,

00:35:08.660 you know,

00:35:10.060 someone of the Islamic faith

00:35:11.840 acting out violently,

00:35:13.500 saying something

00:35:14.460 that's truly repugnant,

00:35:16.320 it doesn't fit

00:35:17.780 into the media narrative

00:35:19.280 that Islam 0.98

00:35:20.060 is a religion of peace,

00:35:21.320 and this whole idea

00:35:22.420 of victim narrative

00:35:25.720 that they have as well.

00:35:27.160 But I want to,

00:35:27.920 you raise a very fascinating point,

00:35:29.840 too,

00:35:30.140 in terms of over-correction,

00:35:32.060 and I want to talk about

00:35:32.780 over-correction

00:35:33.400 on the behalf

00:35:33.960 of law enforcement.

00:35:35.040 Earlier this month,

00:35:36.280 I had in Sue Ann Levy,

00:35:38.580 the superb columnist

00:35:39.940 with the Toronto Sun,

00:35:41.000 who, by the way,

00:35:42.100 is lesbian herself,

00:35:44.120 and her theory,

00:35:45.080 and I subscribe to it

00:35:46.180 100%, Dore,

00:35:47.280 is that since

00:35:49.420 the Bruce MacArthur

00:35:50.980 serial killing debacle

00:35:53.080 in the gay village,

00:35:54.600 and, you know,

00:35:55.620 the allegations are

00:35:56.540 the police

00:35:57.320 blew the investigation,

00:35:59.000 they weren't treating it

00:35:59.820 as seriously

00:36:00.440 as they should have,

00:36:01.400 and perhaps

00:36:02.000 some men died

00:36:03.580 because of their,

00:36:04.920 the way they handled

00:36:06.080 this case.

00:36:06.580 And by the way,

00:36:07.740 from everything I've read,

00:36:09.240 I do believe that.

00:36:10.320 I think the police

00:36:11.140 dropped the ball

00:36:11.880 on this file.

00:36:13.420 But because of

00:36:14.260 the Bruce MacArthur

00:36:15.020 serial killer story,

00:36:16.740 now the police

00:36:17.960 are hypersensitive

00:36:19.440 to what's happening

00:36:20.640 in the gay village.

00:36:22.160 So forget about

00:36:23.580 serial killers,

00:36:24.360 forget about people

00:36:25.140 preaching hate,

00:36:25.940 forget about people

00:36:27.040 intimating violence.

00:36:29.500 Just the very fact

00:36:30.700 that someone stands

00:36:31.660 on a corner

00:36:32.240 in the gay village

00:36:33.300 and says something

00:36:34.560 that some people there

00:36:36.000 don't want to hear,

00:36:37.460 well, it's almost like

00:36:38.560 calling all cars,

00:36:40.220 you know,

00:36:40.700 get thee to church

00:36:41.700 in Wellesley.

00:36:42.500 Yeah, you know,

00:36:42.940 the LGBT community

00:36:44.140 are real,

00:36:45.080 they're calculating,

00:36:45.780 they're real calculating.

00:36:46.580 The first time

00:36:47.060 I went to church

00:36:47.520 in Wellesley,

00:36:48.520 I saw how they,

00:36:49.860 how they spent

00:36:50.320 the news story.

00:36:51.360 And it was funny

00:36:52.040 that they,

00:36:52.620 the LGBTQ community

00:36:54.860 focused on the response

00:36:56.400 time to the police.

00:36:57.640 Oh.

00:36:58.060 And it's funny.

00:36:58.620 And I was like,

00:36:59.140 wow, these,

00:36:59.940 the police are the ones

00:37:00.700 that,

00:37:00.920 because there are

00:37:01.320 radical people out there

00:37:02.160 that probably will harm

00:37:03.140 particular minority communities.

00:37:05.000 If it wasn't for the police,

00:37:06.500 these are the police

00:37:07.100 that are actually keeping

00:37:08.040 these people safe

00:37:08.980 from the real terror,

00:37:09.700 from the real people

00:37:10.160 that want to hurt them.

00:37:11.120 And it's like,

00:37:11.600 for them to throw

00:37:12.260 the police under the bus

00:37:13.080 like that,

00:37:13.720 for a preacher,

00:37:14.280 all I was doing

00:37:14.740 was preaching love.

00:37:15.360 And they're like,

00:37:15.720 oh, I can't believe

00:37:16.340 it took 45 minutes

00:37:17.420 for the police

00:37:18.060 to get there.

00:37:18.980 They throw the very people

00:37:19.960 under the bus

00:37:20.740 that are saving them

00:37:22.220 high from the real terrorists

00:37:23.180 out there,

00:37:23.520 for real people

00:37:24.080 that want to eradicate them

00:37:25.080 and not want to just

00:37:25.740 evangelize them with love.

00:37:27.680 So,

00:37:28.000 but it's real calculating.

00:37:29.500 It's,

00:37:29.700 I think that was a calculating,

00:37:31.420 strategic angle to take,

00:37:33.000 to throw the police

00:37:33.680 under the bus.

00:37:34.160 And now,

00:37:34.500 because they threw them

00:37:35.080 under the bus,

00:37:36.060 David gets arrested,

00:37:37.260 I get arrested.

00:37:37.940 And it's almost like

00:37:38.680 they've been empowered.

00:37:41.100 Are you familiar

00:37:41.600 with the Wilcock case?

00:37:42.560 I've heard about that.

00:37:43.700 Where that guy,

00:37:45.080 he said something

00:37:46.200 that wasn't,

00:37:46.760 oh no,

00:37:47.000 he was handing out

00:37:47.800 condoms

00:37:49.320 at gay pride parade,

00:37:50.400 right?

00:37:50.720 But they weren't really condoms.

00:37:51.920 They said,

00:37:52.440 you know,

00:37:52.680 God loves you,

00:37:53.320 he died for your sins.

00:37:54.340 And they said

00:37:54.960 it was hate speech.

00:37:56.040 Now,

00:37:56.220 instead of throwing it

00:37:56.880 out of court,

00:37:57.560 they're actually going

00:37:58.200 through the courts right now

00:37:59.040 to,

00:37:59.740 like,

00:37:59.980 it's a bogus case,

00:38:01.400 but they decided

00:38:01.860 to process it.

00:38:02.940 So the fact

00:38:03.760 that they decided

00:38:04.680 to process it

00:38:05.480 empowers people more,

00:38:06.880 empowers the powers

00:38:08.120 that be more.

00:38:08.720 To be like,

00:38:09.040 well,

00:38:09.140 if this guy can get arrested

00:38:10.120 for just handing out

00:38:10.920 condoms to say,

00:38:11.820 you know,

00:38:12.100 repent and God loves you,

00:38:13.100 then how far

00:38:14.000 can we push this?

00:38:14.820 And that's what it seems

00:38:15.380 like is going on now.

00:38:16.120 You know,

00:38:16.580 it's fascinating,

00:38:17.860 Dory,

00:38:18.140 because,

00:38:18.660 I mean,

00:38:19.160 the gay community

00:38:19.840 for decades,

00:38:20.620 and I would argue,

00:38:21.460 perhaps rightfully so,

00:38:22.620 when your rights

00:38:23.260 are infringed upon,

00:38:24.600 they have said,

00:38:25.880 show some understanding,

00:38:27.560 show some tolerance,

00:38:29.160 and yet there are

00:38:30.120 certain members

00:38:30.820 in that community

00:38:31.860 that I think

00:38:33.200 are the most

00:38:33.720 intolerant of all.

00:38:35.100 And I will point to,

00:38:36.680 we just had

00:38:37.200 the Gay Pride Parade

00:38:38.180 this past weekend

00:38:39.640 in Toronto,

00:38:40.880 and two things.

00:38:42.920 One is,

00:38:43.840 the uniformed

00:38:45.500 police officers,

00:38:46.700 apparently,

00:38:47.600 at the bequest

00:38:48.480 of Black Lives Matter,

00:38:50.700 aren't supposed

00:38:52.440 to march in the parade,

00:38:53.400 so they don't get

00:38:54.940 to march.

00:38:56.360 Secondly,

00:38:57.200 when you look at

00:38:57.900 what happens

00:38:58.480 in that parade,

00:38:59.720 there is full frontal nudity.

00:39:02.640 And,

00:39:02.760 which,

00:39:03.100 the last time

00:39:03.620 I checked the criminal code,

00:39:04.780 I think,

00:39:05.100 I believe it's 174.1,

00:39:07.160 you can't be nude

00:39:08.480 in public like that.

00:39:10.120 So,

00:39:11.020 again,

00:39:12.240 it's so bizarre

00:39:13.460 to me,

00:39:14.460 Dory,

00:39:14.940 that the people

00:39:15.840 running Pride

00:39:16.540 are saying

00:39:17.200 to the uniformed police,

00:39:18.440 some of whom

00:39:18.900 are gay and lesbian

00:39:19.720 themselves,

00:39:20.660 you are not invited,

00:39:21.680 you can't come here.

00:39:23.400 And,

00:39:23.600 by the way,

00:39:24.340 we're going to break

00:39:25.340 a law,

00:39:25.860 not a phony,

00:39:27.240 fake,

00:39:27.880 hate speech law,

00:39:29.200 but a law law,

00:39:30.260 i.e.,

00:39:31.060 taking off

00:39:31.640 all our clothes

00:39:32.460 and don't you dare

00:39:33.980 arrest anybody

00:39:35.060 and they don't dare

00:39:36.240 arrest anybody.

00:39:37.180 What do you make of that?

00:39:38.580 Just double standard,

00:39:39.520 man.

00:39:39.880 And then,

00:39:40.600 that's another thing,

00:39:41.160 they're naked,

00:39:41.620 they're naked in front

00:39:42.560 of children,

00:39:43.580 in front of young kids.

00:39:45.900 It's,

00:39:46.180 once again,

00:39:46.560 man,

00:39:46.660 it's just,

00:39:47.960 it's the same,

00:39:49.080 once again,

00:39:49.880 it's the same people,

00:39:50.720 the police officers

00:39:51.520 that's protecting,

00:39:52.340 that protects us all.

00:39:53.240 Like,

00:39:53.400 people,

00:39:53.960 they'd be anarch

00:39:54.500 if he wasn't for the police.

00:39:55.760 The fact that they,

00:39:56.900 the police are in the parade

00:39:58.120 because the police are the ones

00:39:59.240 that set up the barriers,

00:40:00.640 the police are the ones

00:40:01.500 that keep people in their place,

00:40:02.560 the police are the ones

00:40:03.160 starting from people

00:40:03.620 throwing rocks,

00:40:04.240 or they start,

00:40:05.200 police are the ones,

00:40:05.940 even though they're not

00:40:06.540 allowed to march in the parade,

00:40:08.100 they're the ones,

00:40:08.940 they still organize

00:40:10.240 and keep ordering the parade. 0.98

00:40:12.000 And as far as

00:40:12.500 Black Lives Matters,

00:40:13.480 I think that's ridiculous.

00:40:14.360 There's no black people 1.00

00:40:15.100 getting killed

00:40:15.700 on the streets of Toronto.

00:40:17.860 There's not,

00:40:18.280 like,

00:40:18.540 this is not America.

00:40:19.520 You know,

00:40:19.640 in America,

00:40:20.240 I understand,

00:40:20.760 okay,

00:40:21.020 Black Lives Matter,

00:40:21.640 whatever,

00:40:22.300 but I think that's just

00:40:23.320 a silly radical movement,

00:40:24.740 too,

00:40:25.000 that's just bogus.

00:40:26.840 It's just bogus.

00:40:27.400 It's just some people

00:40:28.280 watch TV like,

00:40:29.160 oh, yeah,

00:40:29.360 we want a Canadian

00:40:30.020 Black Lives Matter.

00:40:30.880 I'm so glad

00:40:31.720 that black people

00:40:32.380 aren't getting killed

00:40:33.020 on Canadian streets.

00:40:33.980 Toronto police

00:40:34.480 aren't killing black people

00:40:35.320 on Canadian streets

00:40:35.920 at an alarming rate.

00:40:37.240 Vancouver is not happening.

00:40:38.120 It's not happening in Canada.

00:40:39.040 So Black Lives Matter

00:40:40.140 need to go back

00:40:40.780 to wherever they came from

00:40:41.840 and where things are,

00:40:44.800 where they actually need it,

00:40:45.860 where they think

00:40:46.960 that they're needed, right?

00:40:47.980 But here,

00:40:48.660 why bring that type

00:40:50.660 of stigmatism

00:40:51.500 and that type of bad energy

00:40:52.940 out here

00:40:53.440 when our police

00:40:54.700 aren't doing that.

00:40:55.700 And so they're the ones

00:40:56.600 that kick the police out

00:40:57.520 and then they're radical

00:40:58.840 and they're against the police.

00:41:00.060 They call them pigs

00:41:01.800 and they have signs

00:41:03.880 that say death to pigs

00:41:05.000 and stuff.

00:41:05.700 There's no way

00:41:06.220 that a radical,

00:41:07.020 almost like terrorist,

00:41:07.880 anyone who says

00:41:08.640 death to police,

00:41:09.600 I think they're like terrorists.

00:41:10.500 So there's no way

00:41:11.380 a radical terrorist group

00:41:12.420 should be able

00:41:12.720 to kick the police

00:41:13.420 out of a parade

00:41:14.740 which they police

00:41:15.540 and keep everybody safe.

00:41:16.760 I think that's ridiculous.

00:41:17.720 I agree, Doreen.

00:41:18.500 I remember her name escapes me

00:41:20.420 but she's one of the top organizers 0.98

00:41:22.380 of Black Lives Matter Toronto

00:41:23.740 and she had put out that tweet

00:41:25.360 where,

00:41:26.760 I'm going to paraphrase,

00:41:27.700 but it was words

00:41:28.180 along the lines of,

00:41:29.500 please, please, Allah,

00:41:31.400 prevent me from killing

00:41:32.640 all the white folk 0.58

00:41:33.840 around me right now.

00:41:35.360 Which, my goodness,

00:41:37.380 if I had said that

00:41:38.700 about black people,

00:41:39.860 well, I wouldn't have a job anymore.

00:41:40.960 I can tell you that much.

00:41:42.160 She not only is still

00:41:43.740 part of the committee,

00:41:44.840 she's never apologized.

00:41:46.440 And in fact,

00:41:47.020 I think John Tory two years ago

00:41:49.320 gave her some kind

00:41:50.700 of diversity award

00:41:51.960 from the city of Toronto.

00:41:54.000 I guess if diversity

00:41:55.060 includes preaching hate,

00:41:57.300 you're the diversity queen, right?

00:41:59.800 You know,

00:42:00.020 so sometimes I think, Doreen,

00:42:02.320 the world is upside down.

00:42:03.380 But before we wrap things up,

00:42:04.840 I have to ask you,

00:42:06.400 a lot of people out there

00:42:07.620 are probably saying,

00:42:09.400 okay, we get it.

00:42:11.160 We have free speech still,

00:42:13.360 although it's being attacked

00:42:14.620 on a daily basis, it seems.

00:42:16.580 But Toronto's a very big city.

00:42:18.760 There are thousands

00:42:20.020 of street corners

00:42:21.300 where Doreen Love could go 1.00

00:42:24.020 and David Lynn could go

00:42:25.660 and preach the gospel.

00:42:27.140 If you already know

00:42:28.360 ahead of the time

00:42:29.200 that there's a lot of people

00:42:30.760 in that community,

00:42:32.340 the gay village,

00:42:33.060 that is not receptive

00:42:34.020 to your message,

00:42:34.840 there's going to be a commotion

00:42:35.920 and now apparently

00:42:37.280 a good chance

00:42:37.980 of you being arrested,

00:42:39.540 why go there

00:42:40.660 in the first place?

00:42:41.580 I guess what I'm saying,

00:42:42.340 Doreen,

00:42:42.700 are you going there

00:42:43.520 with a chip on your shoulder?

00:42:44.480 Are you going there

00:42:45.440 to provoke

00:42:46.440 some kind of controversy?

00:42:48.060 No, not at all.

00:42:48.860 Not at all.

00:42:49.400 The thing is,

00:42:50.180 so the gay community,

00:42:52.680 they can go wherever,

00:42:53.580 it's called free speech, right?

00:42:55.820 And it's called public

00:42:56.820 sideways and stuff.

00:42:58.700 So it's like if we were

00:43:01.400 to follow that logic,

00:43:02.340 then how come a gay person 0.97

00:43:03.700 can come to Young and Dundas?

00:43:06.240 Christ Forgiveness Ministries,

00:43:07.680 I've been preaching there

00:43:08.640 for years,

00:43:09.220 David's been preaching there

00:43:10.060 for years,

00:43:10.500 Ministry of the Word,

00:43:11.420 we've been there for years.

00:43:12.780 So we can say the same thing,

00:43:14.080 well, why are you guys

00:43:14.840 bringing your gay pride parade

00:43:16.200 to where we've been preaching

00:43:16.980 for years?

00:43:17.820 Or it's the same thing,

00:43:18.900 why the Bible has 0.97

00:43:21.040 biblical principles

00:43:21.860 that basically say

00:43:23.560 that homosexuality 1.00

00:43:24.500 is not the best lifestyle,

00:43:25.540 it's not what God created

00:43:26.620 for men and women.

00:43:27.860 But however,

00:43:28.360 the gay community says,

00:43:29.500 no, you have to make us,

00:43:30.700 you have to let us

00:43:31.220 into your churches,

00:43:31.940 you have to change

00:43:32.600 what the Bible says

00:43:33.600 so we can become priests

00:43:35.020 and we can,

00:43:35.440 so it'd be different

00:43:36.660 if they weren't trying

00:43:37.920 to come to everywhere

00:43:39.020 that we are, right?

00:43:40.100 And then say,

00:43:40.860 oh, don't come to where we are.

00:43:41.960 Then we could have

00:43:42.680 some sort of,

00:43:43.360 you know, peace or something.

00:43:45.060 Like, okay,

00:43:45.380 we won't come there,

00:43:45.960 you won't come here.

00:43:46.440 But then that's segregation.

00:43:48.380 That leads to,

00:43:49.800 what if I just said,

00:43:50.800 oh, what if I was said

00:43:51.900 only you can,

00:43:53.480 if what if I was said

00:43:54.120 only gay people

00:43:54.780 can be regulated

00:43:56.180 to one certain area?

00:43:57.320 That would be homophobic.

00:43:58.760 You know,

00:43:59.000 I would probably lose my job.

00:44:00.800 I would every time

00:44:01.660 someone would see my face

00:44:02.520 so that's the homophobic guy.

00:44:03.460 What if I said

00:44:03.940 all black people

00:44:04.760 have to stay in one area?

00:44:05.840 The beautiful thing

00:44:06.600 about Toronto

00:44:07.180 is we are a melting pot

00:44:08.320 of all these different communities,

00:44:09.940 all these different walks of life,

00:44:12.080 all these different religions,

00:44:13.040 all these different ideologies.

00:44:14.300 And what makes Toronto great,

00:44:16.300 and I hope it stays like this,

00:44:17.380 is that we can all come together

00:44:18.420 and sometimes we can just

00:44:19.440 agree to disagree.

00:44:21.040 There's someone

00:44:21.460 in every single neighborhood

00:44:22.440 that wants to hear the gospel.

00:44:23.400 The Bible says that

00:44:24.620 the angels rejoice

00:44:26.300 over one sinner repenting.

00:44:28.220 So there could be 50 people

00:44:29.340 in a gay village 0.93

00:44:30.300 that don't want to hear the gospel.

00:44:31.800 What about that one that does?

00:44:33.300 We're there for that one that does.

00:44:34.580 It's not about going

00:44:35.260 to provoke anger

00:44:36.080 or provoke riot.

00:44:37.700 That's counterproductive.

00:44:39.300 We believe that we're led.

00:44:41.920 We believe Jesus

00:44:42.820 will make the world

00:44:43.540 a better place.

00:44:44.120 If we all loved our enemies,

00:44:45.240 if we all turned

00:44:45.820 the other cheek,

00:44:46.380 if we all prayed

00:44:46.900 for those who persecute us,

00:44:47.820 if we all had this

00:44:48.580 don't covet my neighbor's wife, 0.96

00:44:50.740 don't do this,

00:44:51.220 don't do that,

00:44:51.560 the world will be

00:44:52.460 a better place.

00:44:53.140 There's many people out there

00:44:54.160 that are saving the trees.

00:44:55.460 There's many people out there

00:44:56.420 that are saving the animals,

00:44:59.040 don't eat animals.

00:44:59.680 That's their way 0.96

00:45:00.280 of making the world

00:45:00.820 a better place.

00:45:01.660 This is our way

00:45:02.980 to making the world

00:45:03.820 a better place.

00:45:04.340 And if you relegate us

00:45:05.140 to this one certain area,

00:45:06.440 we can't make the world

00:45:07.180 a better place.

00:45:07.640 We only can make

00:45:08.160 that Pacific area

00:45:09.060 a better place.

00:45:10.120 No, you're right.

00:45:11.160 It should be

00:45:12.140 that we can agree

00:45:13.080 to disagree.

00:45:14.040 And even if you're

00:45:15.640 a member of a different faith,

00:45:16.860 even if you're an atheist,

00:45:17.820 that shouldn't come

00:45:19.620 into the fact

00:45:20.340 of curtailing your freedom

00:45:21.980 to preach

00:45:22.680 what you believe in

00:45:23.640 in any area.

00:45:25.120 One last question, Dori.

00:45:27.460 A, can you bring us

00:45:28.960 up to date

00:45:29.520 on what the charges

00:45:30.960 are against you,

00:45:32.420 if there's any movement

00:45:33.280 on that front?

00:45:34.420 And B, I'm wondering,

00:45:35.880 I spoke this weekend

00:45:38.420 with a law enforcement consultant,

00:45:41.480 and he told me,

00:45:43.280 judging by the video

00:45:44.480 he saw in your case,

00:45:46.340 the police made at least

00:45:47.900 four fundamental mistakes

00:45:49.840 in terms of infringing

00:45:51.480 upon your rights.

00:45:52.800 That leads me to ask,

00:45:54.780 are you considering

00:45:55.880 any kind of civil lawsuit

00:45:58.040 against the police?

00:46:00.520 And I'll hand it over to you.

00:46:02.620 Yeah, no, I'm not

00:46:03.680 a big person

00:46:04.600 in retaliatory type of methods.

00:46:09.400 Yeah, I mean,

00:46:10.040 I probably could,

00:46:10.740 but as long as

00:46:12.660 nothing comes of this,

00:46:14.040 as long as I'm not,

00:46:14.700 I don't have

00:46:15.180 a criminal record,

00:46:16.080 as long as, you know,

00:46:17.060 as long as the charges

00:46:17.800 are let go,

00:46:18.920 which I believe they are,

00:46:20.340 as long as,

00:46:21.460 just like when I'm on the street,

00:46:22.540 if someone does something to me,

00:46:23.820 I prefer not to put people in jail

00:46:25.140 because, you know,

00:46:26.120 you have to really do something

00:46:27.860 very, very wrong

00:46:28.940 or very, very bad to me

00:46:30.300 for me to try to, like,

00:46:33.160 you know, respond

00:46:33.800 in a type of, like,

00:46:35.520 revenge type way.

00:46:36.260 So I think I'm the type of person,

00:46:38.280 I'm kind of a pacifist.

00:46:39.840 Turn the other cheek,

00:46:40.740 live and let live,

00:46:41.740 no harm, no foul.

00:46:42.500 So if nothing major comes out,

00:46:44.280 you don't rule my record

00:46:45.080 where I can't fly

00:46:45.960 and I can't get,

00:46:46.800 I don't,

00:46:47.140 I've gone this long

00:46:48.180 with never having a record,

00:46:49.700 as long as nothing

00:46:50.300 that comes with it,

00:46:51.000 then I'm just going to move on

00:46:51.940 and continue to preach

00:46:52.840 and continue to let God

00:46:54.720 take care of the people

00:46:55.580 that, you know,

00:46:57.080 the Bible says,

00:46:57.620 vengeance is mine,

00:46:58.260 says the Lord.

00:46:58.720 So let God take them

00:47:01.000 and do what they want with them

00:47:02.560 and I'm just going to continue

00:47:03.360 to do what I'm doing,

00:47:04.020 just preaching,

00:47:04.780 focusing on the goal

00:47:05.520 and let everyone else

00:47:07.200 do what they do.

00:47:07.960 Great.

00:47:08.520 Well, that's fantastic,

00:47:09.580 Dorey.

00:47:09.840 And please stay in touch.

00:47:12.300 Let us know

00:47:12.960 when your day in court is.

00:47:15.240 I don't care

00:47:16.120 if the mainstream media

00:47:17.080 has now lost interest

00:47:18.460 in this story,

00:47:19.560 but we'd like to be down there.

00:47:21.100 We'd like to tell

00:47:21.780 the other side of the story.

00:47:22.680 We'd like to give you

00:47:23.300 a fair shake

00:47:23.980 and find out what happens.

00:47:25.900 And thank you so much

00:47:26.960 for coming in

00:47:27.580 to the Ezra Levin Show.

00:47:29.460 And there you have it, folks.

00:47:31.320 Free speech isn't free.

00:47:32.780 It's being attacked every day

00:47:34.700 on so many levels.

00:47:36.780 You've just heard

00:47:37.840 the most recent example.

00:47:40.380 And if you,

00:47:42.020 as they say,

00:47:43.000 don't use it,

00:47:43.980 lose it.

00:47:44.440 We have to stand up

00:47:45.360 for our rights

00:47:45.940 and for our freedom

00:47:47.400 to say what we want

00:47:49.280 to believe

00:47:49.780 and what we think.

00:47:57.580 We'll be right back.

Rebel News Podcast - June 25, 2019

Toronto Danforth Shooting investigation wraps up： No motive, move along

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