Rebel News Podcast - Transgender men are winning women’s sports events. Where are the feminists？

00:00:00.000 Tonight, transgender men are bravely winning women's sports events.

00:00:04.540 Where are the feminists? 1.00

00:00:06.240 It's October 17th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:14.720 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:18.540 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:22.260 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.

00:00:25.240 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it

00:00:29.200 is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:35.860 You know, we're in a brief moment in time, this generation,

00:00:39.300 when women are treated equally before the law, equal to men.

00:00:42.980 It's about to end, I think, as so many other great achievements of Western civilization are about to end.

00:00:48.080 It's wonderful that you and I were able to witness them, to experience them, to live through them.

00:00:52.760 Like living in Rome, I suppose, right before it was sacked by the Visigoths in the year 410. 0.99

00:00:59.600 Like living in Constantinople before it fell to the Turks.

00:01:02.360 It's sad, though, being at the end of an empire, knowing that the best times are behind us and we're descending.

00:01:08.900 But at least we had the good fortune to taste it briefly.

00:01:11.560 Maybe our kids won't.

00:01:13.680 For millennia, the concept of women's equality was unthinkable. 1.00

00:01:16.540 And in the course of human history, it's only been a blink of an eye that a woman could vote, for example. 0.98

00:01:23.840 Only about 100 years.

00:01:25.900 And, of course, that's still the case that women can't participate in many parts of the world, 1.00

00:01:30.380 in parts ruled by Sharia law, for example.

00:01:32.120 It's still just like the 7th century, women's rights-wise. 0.99

00:01:35.420 But we've had a beautiful moment in the West.

00:01:37.840 Just a flicker in time, though, when measured against the centuries.

00:01:41.140 Did you know it wasn't until 1967 that women were actually allowed to run? 0.99

00:01:48.300 There you go.

00:01:49.120 The first woman ever allowed to run in the Boston Marathon.

00:01:53.600 It was a male-only sports event.

00:01:56.140 I mean, why not let women run, too? 0.99

00:01:58.640 I can't think of any good reason to let women, to not let women run. 0.97

00:02:03.300 I mean, a woman running, there's thousands of people running. 0.99

00:02:06.080 A woman running doesn't stop a man from running. 1.00

00:02:09.060 Elite male athletes are generally faster than elite women athletes at running, anyways.

00:02:13.960 There are other sports where women biologically are superior to men. 1.00

00:02:17.200 But what's the problem with letting women run a marathon? 1.00

00:02:21.360 So when a woman, that woman there, entered the race 50 years ago, 1.00

00:02:26.400 and she obscured her identity at first, she sneaked in.

00:02:29.580 They tried to grab her. 0.75

00:02:30.680 I don't know if you know that.

00:02:31.340 They tried to grab her and stop her, take her off the court. 0.96

00:02:34.560 You see those pictures?

00:02:36.440 It's quite something.

00:02:39.720 But for the past 50 years, I guess 51 years,

00:02:44.460 Boston Marathon and women's sport in general has grown.

00:02:47.260 It's been greater than ever in the history of people kind, as Justin Trudeau would say.

00:02:53.800 I think we're about as close to the mythical Amazons in Wonder Woman as it could be.

00:03:01.600 I mean, there's women's sports leagues of every sort. 1.00

00:03:04.900 There's many women's sports in the Olympics, something unthinkable a few generations ago. 1.00

00:03:10.120 There's girls' teams in schools and universities.

00:03:12.700 And I see in hockey, in Canada all the time, great girl athletes want to and are allowed to play with boys.

00:03:20.720 And no one cares if the girls are good enough. 1.00

00:03:23.040 They change in their own change room.

00:03:24.200 No big deal.

00:03:25.960 It's so good, girls' sports.

00:03:28.040 It's good exercise.

00:03:28.920 It's good esprit de corps.

00:03:30.080 It's great learning team skills, working with others.

00:03:33.260 It's good to give young women something else to focus on other than just boys.

00:03:36.880 It's a different source of self-worth than just boys.

00:03:39.500 It's, you know, speaking as a dad.

00:03:41.640 And you could even say it's a form of art, especially the more feminine sports. 1.00

00:03:46.160 I mean, sure, they let men figure skate, too.

00:03:47.920 But like gymnastics, it's really a women's thing. 1.00

00:03:51.900 And you might think I'm rambling.

00:03:52.960 You might be thinking, what are you talking about here?

00:03:54.440 But I'm not rambling.

00:03:55.420 I'm actually being sentimental.

00:03:57.580 I'm remembering that things don't last forever.

00:04:01.860 Women are under attack most acutely these days by forces of medieval-style Sharia. 0.99

00:04:07.120 A few weeks ago, we showed you how young women in Iran are being arrested for the crime of 1.00

00:04:13.440 not wearing a hijab or doing some dancing alone in their rooms.

00:04:18.680 This girl here was, of course, arrested. 0.65

00:04:20.700 But women are under attack in North America, too, by transgender men, as in men who say they 0.99

00:04:26.180 want to be women, say they are women, and want to be called women's names and to look like women.

00:04:31.220 We've talked about them a fair number of times before.

00:04:33.320 In my view, it's extremely important not to be cruel to such people, how it's important

00:04:38.680 not to discriminate.

00:04:40.820 We've taken you through this heartbreaking study.

00:04:43.020 Remember this one?

00:04:44.160 Study at the UCLA by the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention.

00:04:51.540 And it shows that about half of transgender people attempt to commit suicide.

00:04:55.560 That's extremely sad to me.

00:04:56.860 And the number who try and commit suicide actually go up with young men who take hormones to change

00:05:03.540 their body or who have surgery to cut off their generals and other irreversible things.

00:05:07.720 These people are obviously deeply troubled and indulging their demands that they think will

00:05:13.700 make them feel better.

00:05:15.600 I mean, just a few years ago, it was listed as a mental illness to want to cut off parts

00:05:19.960 of your body.

00:05:20.460 It doesn't help them to indulge it.

00:05:23.080 It actually makes it worse.

00:05:23.960 That's not my point of view.

00:05:24.900 That is a sympathetic study by the Suicide Foundation.

00:05:28.980 Up to 60% try and commit suicide depending on if they've had the surgery and the hormones.

00:05:34.320 We've talked about being gentle and not being cruel.

00:05:36.520 I think that's the way to be, don't you think?

00:05:39.380 But how far does that go?

00:05:40.860 Now, I mentioned this, and I'm sorry for the lengthy introduction about the golden age

00:05:43.880 in women's sport, however brief it has been in the history of time, because I see this

00:05:48.560 story in the news, and I see others like it, but this one in the news, transgender Canadian

00:05:52.580 woman sets off debate about winning Cycling World Championship.

00:05:57.140 By the way, before I go further, I don't know if you can see the top of the page there,

00:06:01.640 there's a banner ad at the top of the same CBC news page called 14 and Muslim.

00:06:09.380 They're doing a documentary normalizing young Canadian girls going to Canadian schools still

00:06:15.440 wearing hijabs like they're back in Pakistan. 1.00

00:06:19.340 I tell you, women and girls, they're getting it from all directions, aren't they?

00:06:22.600 Men are now competing in women's sports.

00:06:25.240 Girls are being told to wear a hijab, not just by their Muslim imams, not just back in

00:06:29.580 Pakistan, but now in Canada, in public schools, and now the secular state broadcasters making

00:06:34.900 it cool to be submissive.

00:06:37.460 It's got to be tougher now than in a long time to be a girl.

00:06:40.860 But back to the story of the day, to transgender sports, the sub-headline in the CBC story is

00:06:47.660 critics accused Dr. Rachel McKinnon of cheating after taking gold in women's competition.

00:06:54.860 I'll read a little bit.

00:06:55.580 A Canadian transgender athlete has become the first to ever win gold at the UCI Masters

00:07:01.320 Track Cycling World Championship.

00:07:04.440 Dr. Rachel McKinnon from Victoria, BC, finished first in the women's 35 to 44 age bracket in

00:07:10.200 Los Angeles on Sunday.

00:07:11.720 McKinnon was born biologically male.

00:07:16.040 Yes, and she still is biologically male.

00:07:19.420 She, he, whatever.

00:07:21.780 Look, his DNA is male. 0.62

00:07:23.580 So I'm going to say he, okay? 0.97

00:07:25.840 I mean, you can cut off body parts.

00:07:28.200 You can take hormones.

00:07:29.860 You can rename yourself.

00:07:31.760 You can convince people to call you Rachel.

00:07:35.480 You can do those things.

00:07:36.780 But I'm sorry, biologically, that means scientifically, the science of life, you are still male. 0.88

00:07:45.360 I'm sorry, that's just a fact.

00:07:46.720 That's just science.

00:07:47.440 I'm not being mean.

00:07:48.780 It is no different than telling Elizabeth Warren that she is not a Cherokee Indian, no matter

00:07:55.080 how much she thinks she is.

00:07:58.120 Let me read some more from the CBC.

00:07:59.780 She, this athlete, tweeted, first transgender woman world champion ever, with a photo of

00:08:10.460 her on the podium flanked by second and third place finishers, Caroline Van Herakhuizen of

00:08:15.160 the Netherlands and Jennifer Wagner of the U.S.

00:08:18.980 Look, I get it.

00:08:19.660 The CBC is Justin Trudeau's state broadcaster, so they are exquisitely politically correct.

00:08:24.160 And like I said before, it's a good idea to be polite, especially people who are obviously

00:08:27.400 having a tough time in life, having some trouble with themselves.

00:08:30.360 So I get it.

00:08:31.260 If a man said to me, if I met a man in person, he said he was a woman, and he called himself

00:08:35.380 Rachel, and he took steps to appear that way, I might go out of politeness.

00:08:39.560 I might go along with it.

00:08:40.760 And who knows?

00:08:41.480 Maybe it would be such a convincing presentation, like that old movie Tootsie, that it would be

00:08:45.820 easy to call them Rachel.

00:08:48.880 Here's a story we've shown you before about a 52-year-old man who says he's not just transgender.

00:08:54.240 He says he's also a six-year-old.

00:08:56.320 He says he's six.

00:08:57.840 And he wears a soother and a dummy and has dolls.

00:09:00.740 I don't have the imagination to go along with this one.

00:09:03.120 I'm sorry.

00:09:03.420 I'm just not that imaginative.

00:09:05.840 He's clearly troubled.

00:09:08.800 There's a picture here, and I'm not trying to gross you out on anything, of, this is in

00:09:14.760 the Daily Mail, and this is from Daily Extra.

00:09:16.740 Let me read the caption.

00:09:18.280 The caption says,

00:09:19.120 Do you think, do you think he's happy?

00:09:36.620 My friend and our former reporter, Gavin McInnes, actually interviewed Stephanie, and Gavin

00:09:43.620 tells me that the adoptive couple isn't really pretending to be a mummy and daddy.

00:09:49.900 Gavin said that this Stephanie Walsh, Paul's his name, told him they sexually abuse him, 0.98

00:09:55.500 as in they have sex with him while he's pretending to be a child.

00:09:58.800 I'm sorry to tell you these things, and I hope you don't turn off the show.

00:10:01.720 I won't talk any more about that, but my point is, I don't want anyone to harm Stephanie

00:10:06.640 Walsh, Paul Walsh's real name, who actually has a wife that he left and seven kids that

00:10:13.140 he left.

00:10:14.740 I think he's harmed people.

00:10:16.060 I think he's harmed his wife and kids.

00:10:17.820 I don't want people to harm him, but isn't it clear that he's at least harming himself,

00:10:22.620 and that by playing along with it, we are abetting that?

00:10:27.020 Let me read one more line from this same Daily Mail story.

00:10:29.740 That's a tabloid headquartered in the UK, but they did this story about this Canadian

00:10:34.160 man, Paul Walsh.

00:10:35.080 So they love over-the-top stories.

00:10:36.780 It's a tabloid culture.

00:10:38.100 It's Fleet Street.

00:10:38.900 And they're really hammering this story up, right?

00:10:41.820 But let me read the saddest line in the story.

00:10:45.980 After two suicide attempts and a bout of homelessness, she found hope in the transgender community

00:10:51.980 in Toronto.

00:10:55.240 Yeah, I don't think Paul has done his troubles, do you?

00:10:57.700 I think he's just being taken advantage of by different people, personally, physically.

00:11:03.260 Even this newspaper article reads more like a freak show than a news story, doesn't it?

00:11:07.900 Now, this Dr. Rachel McKinnon in the CBC from this bicycling competition, he's obviously

00:11:15.320 not in a downward spiral like Paul Walsh.

00:11:17.480 At least it doesn't seem like he is.

00:11:18.980 But he's obviously out to solve some problem in his mind, to find some emotional answer

00:11:24.960 for himself by being a woman that he couldn't get by being a man.

00:11:29.500 And it's obvious, at least in one part, for him.

00:11:32.300 It's about winning sports competitions.

00:11:34.060 He couldn't win sports competitions as a man.

00:11:36.480 He couldn't compete against other men.

00:11:38.720 But he can beat the girls, can't he?

00:11:41.080 I'm not saying that's why he's gone transgender. 0.97

00:11:43.280 I'm just saying that's an itch he likes to scratch.

00:11:45.700 But look at the CBC.

00:11:46.940 Just thrilled.

00:11:47.800 Let me quote some more from the story.

00:11:49.200 And of course, they call him Rachel, and they say her.

00:11:52.920 And I get it.

00:11:53.560 They're being exquisitely politically correct.

00:11:55.360 You could even say they're being very polite.

00:11:57.560 They don't want to be mean.

00:11:58.920 And maybe if I met this person in real life, I would do the same thing out of deference

00:12:01.960 to another human being.

00:12:03.060 Not wanting to hurt their feelings, being sensitive, being respectful.

00:12:06.300 I wouldn't want to pick a fight.

00:12:07.560 Why would you pick a fight with a stranger?

00:12:08.860 But in a news report, in a news medium, is that really the place for deference and euphemism?

00:12:16.900 Or maybe it's a place for calm, neutral reportage of the facts.

00:12:22.240 Well, let me read more from the CBC.

00:12:24.700 In an article in USA Today in January, McKinnon argued her competing is not a question of athletic

00:12:30.560 advantage.

00:12:31.160 No, no, no.

00:12:32.400 But one of human rights.

00:12:33.980 Dr. Rachel McKinnon, we have to promote inclusive sport.

00:12:39.860 Can you believe that?

00:12:41.020 A man has a human right to say he's a woman.

00:12:43.300 Okay, sure.

00:12:43.800 Say whatever you want.

00:12:45.580 But to actually compete against women in a women's league. 1.00

00:12:48.860 Oh, and because that's inclusive.

00:12:51.100 No, I'm sorry, it isn't.

00:12:52.460 Because it's going to drive out every single woman from sports. 1.00

00:12:57.220 It's not inclusion.

00:12:58.500 It's colonization.

00:13:00.700 Talk about appropriation.

00:13:02.800 That's gender appropriation. 1.00

00:13:04.820 Every man who is not good enough to compete against men can now compete against women. 0.99

00:13:08.480 And they'll call you a bigot if you disagree.

00:13:11.400 Let me quote some more.

00:13:13.340 We cannot have a woman legally recognized as a trans woman in society and not be recognized

00:13:19.200 that way in sports.

00:13:20.380 McKinnon was quoted as saying, focusing on performance advantage is largely irrelevant,

00:13:25.180 guys.

00:13:26.780 Because this is a rights issue.

00:13:29.120 We shouldn't be worried about trans people taking over the Olympics.

00:13:31.600 We should be worried about their fairness in human rights instead.

00:13:35.200 Yeah, no, no, I'm sorry.

00:13:38.180 Not everything is a rights issue.

00:13:39.620 Not everything is political.

00:13:40.880 Not everything is about you, you, you.

00:13:43.120 Not everything is a public therapy for you.

00:13:45.200 Not everyone has to play a role in your simulation.

00:13:48.320 The girls that you crushed in sports aren't part of your project. 1.00

00:13:51.620 They're just part of their own project.

00:13:53.060 Competitive sports for girls.

00:13:54.700 Cycling is not a bone-crushing sport.

00:13:56.840 But there are women's sports leagues that have physical contact, whether it's wrestling 1.00

00:14:01.100 or basketball and soccer, where there are often collisions.

00:14:04.580 I mean, I mentioned hockey before, and you do see girls choosing to play with boys, but

00:14:08.760 they're choosing to go into rougher leagues themselves.

00:14:11.100 They're not going into easier leagues to rough up other people.

00:14:14.460 And they still have helmets and body armor in hockey.

00:14:17.180 This is just plain cheating to have a man compete against women. 0.96

00:14:20.820 And it's odd when one man has gold and real girls are in second and third.

00:14:26.000 What if three transgender men came? 0.99

00:14:27.880 There would be no women on the podium. 1.00

00:14:30.740 I'm sure this is just plain cheating.

00:14:32.180 This is just plain roughness.

00:14:33.480 But no one has the courage to say the emperor has no clothes here because you'll be called

00:14:37.280 a bigot.

00:14:37.720 I mean, he couldn't have been clearer.

00:14:40.200 It's a human rights issue.

00:14:42.900 Oh, sorry, Miss McKinnon.

00:14:46.860 Obviously, you'll be violating his human rights.

00:14:48.960 And obviously, you'll get a human rights investigation if you say this is wrong.

00:14:52.780 Obviously, he has essentially said that.

00:14:56.000 And that's not an idle threat.

00:14:57.860 That's not just speculation.

00:14:59.060 Here's another story by the CBC.

00:15:00.640 We've shown you this before.

00:15:01.860 It's from 2016.

00:15:03.040 So things are two years crazier now.

00:15:04.860 Look at this.

00:15:06.120 Transgender woman files human rights complaint alleging discrimination at Salon.

00:15:12.000 Look at that guy there.

00:15:13.480 Look at the guy.

00:15:15.540 That guy there who couldn't even be bothered to shave for the picture.

00:15:20.020 He calls himself Kirsten.

00:15:24.340 That's a dude.

00:15:28.160 A transgender woman in Charlottetown.

00:15:30.980 I'm quoting from the CBC here.

00:15:32.400 They're calling that guy.

00:15:33.440 He didn't even shave for the photo.

00:15:35.780 A transgender woman in Charlottetown has filed a complaint with the PEI Human Rights Commission

00:15:41.880 alleging she was refused service at a local salon because of her transgender status.

00:15:48.520 So that's just at a salon.

00:15:49.840 In this case, it was a makeup salon.

00:15:51.920 Just makeup and stuff.

00:15:54.320 But here's a case from this year.

00:15:55.600 Here's two years crazier.

00:15:56.540 Transgender woman files human rights complaint against Windsor Spa.

00:16:01.520 Okay, a spa.

00:16:02.400 So what, like, you know, are you going to get a facial or something?

00:16:05.500 Yeah, no.

00:16:06.780 I said I wouldn't get gross again.

00:16:08.140 I'm going to get a little bit gross here.

00:16:09.700 The owner of, let me just read here, the owner of a local waxing spa, waxing spa, is

00:16:16.100 mounting a public campaign to clear the name of his business after he was served a human

00:16:20.320 rights complaint for denying service to a transgender woman.

00:16:23.880 Jason Carruthers, the president of Mad Wax on Walker Road, said he was surprised at the

00:16:29.020 legal move since he had explained to the complainant that the spa did not offer Brazilian wax services

00:16:34.800 on male body parts.

00:16:38.500 I have no male staff, Carruthers said Friday.

00:16:40.740 We are not able to provide that service.

00:16:45.420 As in, a dude walks into a women's spa and says, can you wax my lady parts? 0.99

00:16:51.680 But he doesn't have lady parts. 1.00

00:16:55.160 And they only have female staff. 0.99

00:16:57.060 And he says, do it.

00:16:58.400 Do it.

00:16:59.460 Do it.

00:17:00.880 And they won't.

00:17:02.040 And so he sues them for 50 grand.

00:17:04.900 Hey, you still going to tell Rachel McKinnon she's not a lady? 0.99

00:17:07.900 You want 50 grand worth of lawsuits?

00:17:10.540 That's Canada. 0.83

00:17:11.460 A dude saying, wax my lady parts when he doesn't have lady parts. 1.00

00:17:17.240 That's more invasive than a bike race, ain't it? 0.69

00:17:19.180 But it's actually the same thing.

00:17:20.300 Forcing the women around you to pretend that you are a woman and do things that they would 0.99

00:17:25.800 never do to someone not a woman.

00:17:28.160 Women change together in change rooms, in swimming pool change rooms. 1.00

00:17:34.020 And they go to the spa together.

00:17:36.140 Women and girls can compete together.

00:17:38.240 Whether there are some things that only women and girls do together, I suppose it is the

00:17:41.860 ultimate club.

00:17:43.720 And that's why getting into it is the ultimate proof that you really, truly are a real life

00:17:48.320 woman.

00:17:49.840 That's what this is about.

00:17:50.680 This is about forcing other people to join you in your fantasy, to join you in your simulation.

00:17:54.560 At least Stephanie Walsh found willing people to pretend with him, even though Gavin says

00:17:59.500 they abused him.

00:18:02.020 But these folks want to force other people to go along with their delusion.

00:18:04.840 And it's always women and girls who seem to pay the price, isn't it? 0.99

00:18:09.120 Can I show you Rachel McKinnon's Twitter page?

00:18:12.820 I'm not sure if that's a wig, because when he competes, he competes with very short hair.

00:18:18.400 Look at the bio there.

00:18:20.520 PhD in philosophy, assistant professor at College of Charleston.

00:18:24.280 Tweets are my own public intellectual, trans woman, queer chick, strident feminist, athlete,

00:18:33.920 vegan.

00:18:34.400 I don't know if he's vegan.

00:18:37.580 I suppose he's sort of an athlete, the kind who likes to compete against girls.

00:18:42.580 But I think the rest of those words are not true.

00:18:45.760 I don't think it's true that he's a strident feminist.

00:18:49.120 In fact, I think he forces himself into women's areas, into women's sports, driving out women. 0.99

00:18:54.680 He's not a chick, if by that he means a woman. 0.71

00:18:58.640 And look at the hubris.

00:18:59.460 This is a tweet here.

00:19:00.240 He says, I'm an internationally recognized expert on the science and ethics of transgender inclusion in sport.

00:19:05.720 No, brother, I don't think you are.

00:19:09.760 I think you say you are.

00:19:10.900 But you're an expert in biology and ethics, sort of the same way that you're a woman, sort of the same way you're a championship cyclist.

00:19:22.000 That is, it's in your mind.

00:19:23.240 And I know you can get the CBC to go along with it, because they're a Trudeau state broadcaster.

00:19:29.180 I know other people are afraid of human rights complaints, so they go along with it.

00:19:32.500 And look, I mean you no harm, I swear to God.

00:19:34.560 But it's just not true.

00:19:35.660 In fact, you are actually destroying things.

00:19:37.860 You're actually hurting women and girls.

00:19:39.160 You are unethical, not ethical.

00:19:43.520 Now you tell me, am I being mean?

00:19:45.600 Am I being a bully?

00:19:46.960 Or is the actual bully here Rachel McKinnon?

00:19:52.260 That's him in the middle there.

00:19:53.800 You can see his short hair.

00:19:56.680 I'm sorry, you can clearly see physiologically that's a dude.

00:20:02.120 But to say so, is it illegal now?

00:20:05.660 This is cycling.

00:20:07.400 Men's legs are huge compared to women's legs, especially the quadriceps, that's the muscle 1.00

00:20:12.860 in the front, the thigh, the hamstrings too.

00:20:15.300 But look at what he says as he boasts of beating those two girls, who are clearly girls.

00:20:21.620 This is his Instagram.

00:20:23.580 He says, look at some of these hashtags here, Rainbow Fox Racing, Rainbow Fox.

00:20:28.780 That's his name, I guess.

00:20:30.640 He calls himself Rainbow Fox.

00:20:33.380 Women who lift. 1.00

00:20:34.740 I'm sorry, you're not a woman. 1.00

00:20:38.920 I know you want to be, but you are not.

00:20:42.240 Her thigh-ness, quad-ness, quadzilla, quad goals.

00:20:48.900 That's a bit more honest, isn't it?

00:20:50.900 If you were born a man, which Rachel was, you have male DNA, you've grown up as a boy and 0.54

00:20:57.960 then a man, you have a man's body, including massive quadriceps and hamstrings.

00:21:02.360 And that's why you want to bicyclay.

00:21:05.680 Quadzilla.

00:21:06.200 You got that right.

00:21:08.080 You're not a girl who worked on your legs in the gym every day, eight hours a day for 1.00

00:21:12.860 ten years to build up legs like a man.

00:21:14.860 You sort of got them because you're a man.

00:21:18.280 Let's read some more of those Instagram tags there.

00:21:22.540 Sports is a human right.

00:21:24.920 Put it back up for a sec.

00:21:25.880 Yeah, you see that there?

00:21:26.720 I don't know if you can see that about halfway through the middle there.

00:21:31.620 Sports is a human right.

00:21:34.420 Inclusive sport.

00:21:36.080 Yeah, again, not really.

00:21:37.680 It's not inclusive for the girls.

00:21:38.700 You push down, push out.

00:21:41.300 The silver medalist here should be the gold medalist.

00:21:43.360 The bronze medalist should be the silver medalist.

00:21:45.320 And someone nodded in the picture.

00:21:46.700 Well, they're forgotten about, aren't they?

00:21:47.980 We don't even know their name, do we?

00:21:50.700 There's another hashtag there.

00:21:52.220 Girls like us.

00:21:53.160 Sorry, dude, you can say it, but it ain't any truer than Elizabeth Warren saying she's Cherokee.

00:21:59.460 A little further down, social change, social justice.

00:22:03.200 Sorry, this is not justice.

00:22:04.880 These women did you no harm. 1.00

00:22:07.080 They don't deserve to be punished.

00:22:08.780 There's no need for them to compensate you.

00:22:14.040 You were not harmed.

00:22:15.460 They did you no harm.

00:22:17.160 There's no justice in you pushing out girls from a girls' cycling contest. 0.99

00:22:21.660 Sorry, that's not justice.

00:22:22.560 Change, yes, I'll grant you that.

00:22:25.080 But not all change is for the better, is it?

00:22:28.780 I think it's a bit like the days of girls being run out of the Boston Marathon again.

00:22:32.280 Because they're girls. 1.00

00:22:35.700 But hey, at least this one vegan activist can feel good about himself.

00:22:39.740 And I guess the girls, well, they can go back to what exactly? 1.00

00:22:43.360 Is there anything that they can do just as girls without some angry man telling them what and how and whom?

00:22:52.500 And if not, they're violating his justice.

00:22:57.020 Stay with us for more.

00:22:58.040 Welcome back.

00:23:15.180 Well, as you know, here at The Rebel, we like to tell you stories from around the world.

00:23:19.120 Because, of course, we're interested in the world.

00:23:21.620 But also, if they provide us any warning or lessons to us here in North America.

00:23:26.780 That's why we focus on Tommy Robinson in the United Kingdom.

00:23:29.760 That's why we focus on Kiert Wilders in the Netherlands.

00:23:32.740 Why we talk about things in Sweden and France.

00:23:35.680 But a very interesting case is that of Italy that, for the last half year, has been led by a populist, nationalist, democratic party that has run contrary to the European Union and the globalism that is promoted by Angela Merkel and others.

00:23:55.420 It's a fascinating story.

00:23:57.240 And it's something I'd like to follow more in the months ahead.

00:24:00.160 And joining us today to help us make sense of it is a freelance journalist I've started to follow on Twitter for her reports, Alessandra Bocci, who joins us via Skype from Milan, Italy.

00:24:11.560 Alessandra, what a pleasure to have you on the show.

00:24:14.500 Thanks for having me.

00:24:16.100 Well, it's great to have you on the show.

00:24:18.440 I follow you on Twitter.

00:24:19.500 You have done a lot of journalism about the migrant crisis, about how toppling Muammar Gaddafi has basically opened the floodgates of migrants across the Mediterranean.

00:24:33.560 Before we talk about Italy, maybe you can give us a minute on that experience, because I think it informs Italy today, this experience of mass migration in little rickety rafts across the Mediterranean for the past couple of years.

00:24:47.880 Why don't you tell us about that?

00:24:49.500 Sure.

00:24:50.380 So I actually started working as a reporter on Libya from Tunisia.

00:24:56.260 And really, since the overthrow of Gaddafi, the country Libya is just overrun by this anarchical state, really.

00:25:08.660 And it's become a place where migrants just pass through and human traffickers can operate freely.

00:25:15.680 And obviously, the closest country in Europe to Libya is Italy.

00:25:21.680 And so Italy has really taken the burden of this migrant crisis for the past few years.

00:25:27.080 So the crisis really began with the toppling of Gaddafi, which is something that France and the United Kingdom and the United States especially pushed for, and which Italy was actually opposed to because it had a good deal with Gaddafi at the time to really stop this migrant crisis from taking place. 0.53

00:25:46.760 Now, the migrants aren't just from Libya.

00:25:49.480 In fact, the minority of them are from Libya.

00:25:51.980 As you point out, they're passing through because it's really a failed state, a rogue state.

00:25:56.860 Many of them are from Central and Southern Africa, aren't they?

00:26:00.280 Yes, most of the migrants are actually from sub-Saharan Africa.

00:26:05.060 And I still report on Libya.

00:26:06.540 And I have many Libyan sources who tell me that they're causing a lot of problems inside Libya as well, because now that the country doesn't have borders anymore, these sub-Saharan militias can come in Libya freely. 0.99

00:26:21.620 And they're really clashing with the indigenous Libyans.

00:26:24.660 So it's causing a lot of problems in Libya as well and in North Africa in general.

00:26:29.580 And it's something the corporate media really doesn't cover, how the migrant crisis is affecting North African countries as well.

00:26:39.180 Now, for years, and I think it would be years, this migrant wave was not resisted by international NGOs, the United Nations, the European Union.

00:26:51.560 In fact, it was assisted.

00:26:53.440 There were government-funded NGOs that would actually, I think it's fair to say, engage in human trafficking.

00:27:01.080 They would sponsor boats.

00:27:03.200 They would, if not the actual ships paid for by NGOs, they would go out and rescue dilapidated dinghies and bring them back to the European side rather than return them to the African side.

00:27:16.740 Is that right?

00:27:17.140 Yes.

00:27:18.140 So these NGOs that operate in the Mediterranean, they actually pick up the migrants about, in some cases, 12 kilometers from Libya's shores.

00:27:27.640 And they were caught colluding with the smugglers to bring these migrants into Europe.

00:27:33.240 So it's no longer a rescue operation.

00:27:34.960 It's actually facilitating what is really a modern-day form of slave trade.

00:27:40.840 And, yes, they've been caught doing this before.

00:27:44.680 Now the problem has more or less been resolved since this new government in Italy and with the Interior Minister Salvini, who's taken a harsher stance, which has actually caused less death in the Mediterranean.

00:27:57.780 Because, of course, the fewer boats leave the shores, the fewer migrants risk their lives.

00:28:04.740 So it's actually been positive, not just for Europe and Italy in terms of security, but also for these migrants themselves.

00:28:13.820 Now let's talk about that, because what we've been talking about the past few minutes was just to set the stage.

00:28:18.500 I mean, a lot of Canadians know what happened in Libya, and, in fact, we had 400 Canadian troops, mainly in the Navy, and also the Air Force, helped depose Gaddafi.

00:28:28.360 I think it was just Stephen Harper feeling compelled to support Barack Obama in whatever Obama's scheme was at the day.

00:28:38.640 Tell me a little bit about this new political party.

00:28:41.400 It's not a new party, but it's a new government, the Five Star and the League.

00:28:46.660 Who are these people?

00:28:47.800 You mentioned Matteo Salvini, the Interior Minister.

00:28:50.720 Tell me a little bit about the government that has been running Italy since, is it June?

00:28:56.460 Yes, it's a, yes, more or less.

00:28:59.500 It's a really interesting question, and it's something that it's not really discussed,

00:29:03.700 because it's a coalition between two very different parties who are united in this anti-establishment sentiment.

00:29:13.800 So the Five Star Movement is really more anti-establishment from the left, and the League is more anti-establishment from the right.

00:29:20.840 So it's this compromise.

00:29:22.800 It's like having Jeremy Corbyn sort of have a coalition with Nigel Farage, you know?

00:29:31.040 So it's, yeah, it's really interesting.

00:29:33.620 And it's very scary for the EU, because it has both those anti-establishment forces coming together.

00:29:41.760 Well, that is fascinating, but obviously Matteo Salvini, and I've started to follow him on Twitter.

00:29:48.100 Twitter allows me to translate his tweets, which are almost always in Italian.

00:29:52.660 He takes a very hard line against migration.

00:29:55.380 Now, traditionally, the left is for open borders and open migration.

00:29:59.620 Are you saying that the left-wing part of this coalition is comfortable with Matteo Salvini's decision to close the ports, to enforce the borders?

00:30:14.080 Is the left-wing part of the coalition comfortable with that?

00:30:17.960 Yes, absolutely.

00:30:19.360 And in fact, they support these efforts.

00:30:22.360 There have been some internal, let's say, there has been some opposition in some cases by some members.

00:30:29.680 But the head of the Five Star Movement, Luigi Di Maio, has been very supportive of this policy.

00:30:34.520 And he was the first one to actually call the NGO activities in the Mediterranean as a fraud and as a taxi service.

00:30:42.540 So the Five Star Movement is a little complicated, because they have so many different people inside the movement.

00:30:48.080 But in general, the leadership, yes, supports Matteo Salvini's stance on migration.

00:30:56.460 Salvini seems very charismatic.

00:30:59.660 He's always out amongst the people.

00:31:02.400 He says things, I'm going to say in a Trump-like way, and I'm sure he would say he's different than Trump.

00:31:09.100 Everyone likes to say they're different than Trump.

00:31:11.100 But the commonality I say is he's blunt.

00:31:13.220 And if a reporter puts something to him, do you mean to say, he doesn't back down, he doesn't blink.

00:31:20.860 I saw him the other day saying, I'm for immigrants who integrate and are successful, but the rest are fake and they should go home. 1.00

00:31:27.420 That's an incredibly blunt thing to say.

00:31:29.700 But that reminds me of something Trump would say when he says, I'm sorry, they've got to go back.

00:31:34.560 Does he compare himself at all to Trump?

00:31:36.700 Does the media compare him to Trump?

00:31:38.520 Are there any other similarities?

00:31:39.880 Yes, in terms of personality, I would say that both of them present themselves as sort of these men of the people.

00:31:49.000 You know, they're very close to regular people and their concerns right now.

00:31:54.680 And Matteo Salvini is very much like that.

00:31:56.600 He's very good with social media.

00:31:59.440 He communicates in a way that the average person can relate to.

00:32:04.060 And in many ways, he's also kind of funny and amusing.

00:32:06.620 But yes, there are some similarities.

00:32:10.900 And of course, Matteo Salvini supported Trump during the election.

00:32:17.120 Well, that's interesting to see.

00:32:19.320 In some countries, in Canada, for example, our Conservative Party is terrified of any comparison with Trump

00:32:25.140 and actually goes out of their way to disparage him.

00:32:28.020 It's interesting that Salvini doesn't.

00:32:29.860 I want to talk about the news that caused me to reach out to you today.

00:32:33.400 You mentioned Salvini closed the ports until he came along.

00:32:40.420 It was sort of an open secret.

00:32:41.780 You get on a dinghy.

00:32:43.060 You're as good as in Italy.

00:32:44.420 And same with Greece.

00:32:45.220 Greece took countless migrants.

00:32:48.340 Salvini closed the ports.

00:32:49.600 And that caused some of the migrants to go further west to France.

00:32:54.080 Now, tell me about the current quarrel with Emmanuel Macron.

00:32:57.480 Macron has disparaged Salvini and Italy for closing the ports.

00:33:01.460 But tell me what they've done in the last few days.

00:33:05.260 So it all started actually before the summer when Emmanuel Macron called Italy's behavior in closing its ports disgusting.

00:33:15.480 It wasn't actually Emmanuel Macron himself, but it was his spokesperson.

00:33:19.280 And then Emmanuel Macron never denied it.

00:33:21.340 And he himself criticized this government's position on immigration.

00:33:24.920 But France itself has been very harsh towards migrants.

00:33:30.200 In fact, in northern Italy, the French police invaded Italian territory to push back migrants who were trying to get into France.

00:33:38.960 And there was one pregnant Nigerian woman who ended up giving birth in a hospital in Turin in Italy.

00:33:45.240 And she died, actually, eventually.

00:33:48.300 And she was mistreated by the French police.

00:33:50.160 So it's just a hypocrisy, which is very annoying for Italians, you know, to be lectured on welcoming all these immigrants when France itself and Emmanuel Macron himself has sanctioned very harsh behavior towards immigrants.

00:34:05.520 Now, I understand that a group of police, French police, tried to drop off a truckload or a vehicle full of migrants.

00:34:15.760 Yes, this happened in the last few days.

00:34:18.100 So, yeah.

00:34:19.580 So I started way back.

00:34:21.420 But in the last few days, the tensions actually got much worse because apparently the French police just dumped a truck of migrants in northern Italy in the woods.

00:34:34.880 And they were caught doing that.

00:34:37.100 And they said that it was a mistake.

00:34:38.900 Some French authorities said it was a mistake.

00:34:41.400 But obviously, it's a very, you know, very strange mistake to be making.

00:34:45.640 And Salvini didn't buy that.

00:34:48.900 And he said that it was an international embarrassment.

00:34:51.160 And also, what are they doing with these migrants? 0.96

00:34:53.920 They're just like leaving these people in the middle of nowhere, you know, unaccompanied.

00:34:58.880 And no human rights organization has said anything.

00:35:02.660 And Emmanuel Macron has still not said anything about this issue either.

00:35:06.580 Now, I've seen, I follow Salvini, and you're right.

00:35:09.680 Not only is he a very plain-spoken person, like Trump, but he's got a sense of humor.

00:35:15.640 He also seems, on social media at least, to be making a network with other nationalist populists around Europe.

00:35:24.360 If I recall, I saw him with Marine Le Pen of the Front National in France.

00:35:31.360 And I see just this week, just this weekend, I think, the alternative for Deutschland, a similar party in Germany, had breakthroughs in elections in Bavaria.

00:35:41.920 Is there an international nationalist populist movement in Europe?

00:35:50.580 And should that be encouraging to other countries in Europe that now feel absolutely subordinated by the European Union, Angela Merkel, and globalist open borders types like that?

00:36:05.760 Yes, I would say that the lines are being drawn right now because we've had, basically, all the countries had their major elections.

00:36:14.020 And so you have Austria, which has turned populist.

00:36:16.920 And then you have, of course, Hungary and Poland and the V4 countries.

00:36:22.980 And now, recently, you have Italy.

00:36:26.800 I'm not sure the United Kingdom, what position it has.

00:36:29.500 It definitely showed some animosity towards the EU by voting for Brexit.

00:36:34.520 But at the same time, it's unclear what the Conservative government with Theresa May is doing about it.

00:36:41.160 But in terms of continental Europe, you have these populist countries.

00:36:45.620 And then you have France and Germany, which are really the last pillars of, you know, liberalism.

00:36:51.840 Or they represent the EU establishment against this populist uprising.

00:36:58.920 One last question, and it goes to how far gone things are.

00:37:05.000 I sometimes worry about Sweden.

00:37:08.280 I sometimes worry about Holland.

00:37:10.120 Just demographically and the open borders and the slowness of the political system to respond,

00:37:17.260 I don't know if it's possible for them to pull back from the open borders globalist direction they're on.

00:37:24.820 Is Italy too far gone?

00:37:27.180 If I recall, I think it was Salvini or someone in the coalition talked about deporting 500,000 illegal migrants.

00:37:35.240 And there was a very bold statement to make.

00:37:36.920 I don't even know if it's physically possible to do that, let alone legally possible.

00:37:42.860 But that implies that there's a huge problem that they're trying to reverse.

00:37:47.140 Is it reversible?

00:37:48.080 Is Matteo Salvini making real changes, or is he just giving rhetorical comfort to people who want to change?

00:37:57.700 He is definitely making real changes, but it's very hard because he's just against this very strong current,

00:38:05.460 which is, you know, the establishment, which has cracked down on him very hard,

00:38:09.240 like they did in the United States with Donald Trump.

00:38:11.220 So just in closing the country's ports, he faced so much backlash, and it was very hard for him to do that,

00:38:18.740 but he managed to do that.

00:38:20.060 So the next step, obviously, is the next promise he made was deporting those 500,000 migrants who are in the country illegally 0.99

00:38:28.180 and who therefore should be deported if their asylum application doesn't count.

00:38:33.700 And in most cases, it doesn't, actually.

00:38:36.220 It's just about less than 10% of asylum applications actually are valid.

00:38:44.100 But the problem is that the backlash he's facing, but he's making a lot of progress, I would say.

00:38:49.260 He passed recently a decree that ended or limited this humanitarian protection law that we had in the country,

00:38:56.160 which really allowed anyone to come in and apply for asylum and really stay there indefinitely.

00:39:00.580 And he's also passed some decrees in terms of what he perceives as a threat of Islam in the country.

00:39:10.340 So the surveillance of mosques or the immediate expulsion of criminals or people who have a criminal record.

00:39:18.240 Yeah, I saw him announcing that he had deported some imams.

00:39:21.720 That sounded quite speedy.

00:39:23.200 Yes.

00:39:23.420 Listen, Alessandra, what a pleasure to catch up with you via Skype.

00:39:28.000 I hope that we can talk to you again in the future.

00:39:30.720 I'm fascinated by Italy, and it's been a crash course for me.

00:39:34.020 I'll be honest, I never really paid close attention to its politics until this charismatic figure, Matteo Salvini, came along.

00:39:40.420 And I can't believe what I see every day.

00:39:42.120 He truly is as exciting for me as Trump is, and it gives me some hope for the continent.

00:39:47.760 Last word to you, Alessandra.

00:39:49.000 What should people in Canada and the United States keep an eye peeled for in Italy in the months ahead?

00:39:55.620 Well, I think there's not much good reporting on Italy, but it's a very important country right now in Europe because it's really, you know, it's the first country in Western Europe to turn populist.

00:40:09.200 And it's actually the first populist government in the Western world after Donald Trump.

00:40:14.280 So a lot is happening, and it's definitely a country that isn't, that's underrated right now for maybe some reasons that have to do with an agenda in the corporate media.

00:40:26.060 But it's very important for the future.

00:40:28.380 Well, thank you for helping us cover this important story.

00:40:31.200 I am impressed with what I read from you on Twitter and journalism.

00:40:35.660 Thank you.

00:40:35.920 And hopefully we can talk to you again. Great to see you today.

00:40:40.100 Thank you. We'll speak soon.

00:40:41.480 All right. That's Alessandra Bocci, a journalist based in Milan, Italy.

00:40:47.680 And hopefully we can talk with her in the months ahead to see how Italy progresses.

00:40:51.860 Stay with us. More ahead on The Rebel.

00:40:53.880 Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about Elizabeth Warren's DNA test, basically saying she's the whitest woman in America. 0.60

00:41:11.900 Alan writes, well, I am as white as the freshly fallen snow, but I have been told that I have some Mohawk blood from the family sojourn in Ontario.

00:41:21.000 What entitlements am I entitled to? Where do I sign up for it? Can I teach you Ryerson or U of T?

00:41:26.540 You know, that's the trouble with a race-based society. 1.00

00:41:33.440 And that's how, yesterday I said, deal with the devil, soul to soul.

00:41:38.600 Elizabeth Warren is thinking, what have I gotten myself into?

00:41:41.520 Well, she would not be in this position.

00:41:43.380 She would not be a senator if she didn't lie.

00:41:45.440 I'm sorry, that's just my view.

00:41:47.320 If she didn't lie to say she was aboriginal, she would not have gone on at Harvard. 1.00

00:41:50.900 She just wouldn't.

00:41:51.480 I mean, I hear she's smart, and let's just take that as accurate.

00:41:56.620 You've got to be top 1% of 1% of 1% to be a law professor at Harvard.

00:42:01.100 I mean, that's the smartest people in the country.

00:42:04.260 She got that job because of a set-aside, a racial set-aside. 1.00

00:42:07.500 She would not be running for Senate without it.

00:42:10.760 But the trouble is, when you start to quantify either benefits or punishments based on race,

00:42:16.760 well, you've got to quantify how much race.

00:42:19.720 And there's different ways to do that.

00:42:20.940 There's one drop.

00:42:22.200 There's one drop of blood.

00:42:24.840 If you have one drop of—how did you know if someone was a slave?

00:42:28.940 How did you know if someone had to be in the back of the bus or the front of the bus?

00:42:32.100 How did the Nazis know who was too Jewish, just Jewish enough, or not enough Jew in them to be a— 0.94

00:42:40.180 they came up with a concept in German, Mischling, which means mixling.

00:42:45.780 So if you had one Jewish parent, you were too Jewish, you were sent off.

00:42:49.960 If you had one Jewish grandparent, you were a mixling—I think they called it a mixling second degree. 1.00

00:42:55.740 And they wouldn't kill you, but you certainly couldn't have a prestigious job.

00:43:00.060 And then a mixling third degree, you wouldn't be in the SS or anything, but they just wouldn't mention it.

00:43:06.260 And I know that's kind of—in the States, slavery.

00:43:08.460 Have you ever heard of these bizarre words like quadroon and octoroon?

00:43:15.140 Have you ever heard those words before?

00:43:17.500 That refers to the blood quantum, an octoroon.

00:43:22.220 Isn't that a crazy word?

00:43:23.860 That's like an eighth or a quarter.

00:43:26.180 How much black blood?

00:43:28.240 That's crazy.

00:43:30.240 That's crazy.

00:43:31.020 And that's how they did it when you give and take rights based on race.

00:43:37.060 That's how crazy it is.

00:43:39.060 How about we just judge people, as Martin Luther King said,

00:43:42.000 by the content of their character, not the color of their skin?

00:43:47.140 That's why I hate the Indian Act, by the way.

00:43:51.680 Andy writes,

00:43:52.140 Let's not lose sight of the fact that in the middle of the circus that Warren tried to gain political advantage by playing the race card.

00:43:57.700 She's no more Cherokee than I am, having been born in Eastern Europe.

00:44:02.000 Yeah, and I say again, even this DNA test, and I tried to make this point clear yesterday.

00:44:06.700 I don't know if I did.

00:44:09.400 They compare your DNA against samples they have in their big database.

00:44:12.820 But there are so few actual American Indian genetic samples that they have that I don't know if this came clear yesterday.

00:44:21.900 This doctor, this genius doctor, Bustamante, he substituted Peruvian and Colombian DNA for Cherokee DNA. 0.89

00:44:30.940 I'm sorry, that's thousands of miles away.

00:44:34.240 You can't just say, oh, well, they're all Hispanic.

00:44:36.540 Cherokee's not even Hispanic.

00:44:37.660 Like, even the one 1,000th is a lie. 0.90

00:44:44.500 The girl's white is mayo.

00:44:47.200 I bet that was her nickname.

00:44:48.700 Hey, mayo!

00:44:50.080 Hey, vanilla! 1.00

00:44:51.380 No, vanilla, if you actually look at it, it has specks of black in it.

00:44:56.020 Vanilla is off-white, ain't it?

00:44:58.460 That girl's so white, she's mayo. 1.00

00:45:01.260 Someone with the, I'm guessing this is not a real name.

00:45:04.240 I'm guessing this ain't the name your mama gave you.

00:45:06.720 Whitey McPrivilege writes, I would just like to take the opportunity to say it one more time that it's okay to be white.

00:45:12.360 I know, I know.

00:45:13.260 It's racist to say that.

00:45:14.280 Somebody reminds me every time.

00:45:16.740 Well, that's the thing.

00:45:17.480 I mean, what does it even mean to be white?

00:45:19.340 I think I'm white.

00:45:21.860 I'm sort of pink and yellow.

00:45:25.340 You know, not the prettiest man.

00:45:26.980 But, um, how does it, how is it even relevant?

00:45:32.120 I think we gotta, I think what's so weird is that, I think, have you ever watched that movie Borat?

00:45:40.080 It's an insane movie.

00:45:42.660 It, I laughed so hard and I know I shouldn't.

00:45:44.940 All the jokes were, were just bad.

00:45:47.800 Like I said, you're not supposed to laugh at them, but they were too funny.

00:45:50.100 It, it's about this guy from, I don't know, Kazakhstan or Uzbekistan or something who comes

00:45:56.680 to America and does absolutely crass and crude things and everyone in America sort of cringes

00:46:03.400 at him but sort of goes along with it.

00:46:05.680 Like, so he goes to a, um, you know, Borat's a character, you know, he goes to a dating

00:46:12.800 service and he says outrageous things and he goes, to me, Borat is a comedy but it's

00:46:20.140 also proof of the American and Canadian nature that when someone comes over and they're rude

00:46:29.840 and they're crazy, we don't call them out.

00:46:32.500 We sort of say, hey, that's okay. 0.99

00:46:33.760 They will just, like, it was, it showed how tolerant Americans were of some crazy guy from 0.85

00:46:39.380 Uzbekistan or whatever, or Azerbaijan. 0.84

00:46:42.620 And my point is, white, liberal America, Canada is so tolerant, so bend over backwards for the

00:46:51.680 other that the logical conclusion of that, of bending over backwards for the other, for

00:46:58.840 the Borat's, is to hate yourself, I guess, to bend over backwards so far your spine shatters

00:47:06.180 and you love the other so much you loathe yourself.

00:47:10.400 I think it's perfectly fine and I think it's much healthier to love others without hating

00:47:16.800 yourself.

00:47:17.300 And you can love minorities and you can love new immigrants and you can help others and

00:47:22.160 you can help the Borats of the world come to Canada and learn how we do things without 1.00

00:47:27.240 hating yourself.

00:47:29.640 I don't know if you, let me know what you think of my Borat analogy.

00:47:32.180 Let me speed up here.

00:47:33.080 On my interview with Hillel Neuer about Canada's controversial funding of the UN Relief Works

00:47:37.920 Agency, Ken writes, I'm a follower of UN Watch.

00:47:41.760 Kudos for having Mr. Neuer on.

00:47:44.960 Ken, I'm glad you follow him.

00:47:47.120 And they do good work.

00:47:48.200 He's based there in Geneva because that's where that whole human rights apparatus of

00:47:51.080 the UN is.

00:47:52.420 The main UN office is in New York.

00:47:53.940 That's where the General Assembly is.

00:47:55.480 But they have their human rights office in Geneva.

00:47:58.260 And our friend Raheel Raza often goes there to speak truth to power also.

00:48:02.100 So thank you for your compliments and hopefully we'll have him back on.

00:48:05.960 Well, that's the show for today.

00:48:07.120 Lots of talk about different identities, racial, gender, or the like.

00:48:12.460 I think it's sad.

00:48:15.600 I think it's sad.

00:48:16.620 Imagine being a parent of a girl who trains and practices her whole life, has a real sisterhood

00:48:23.200 with fellow girls where they value merit and hard work and teamwork and physical fitness

00:48:30.600 and wholesome things like that.

00:48:32.980 And you go to a competition and some dude crushes you.

00:48:35.820 And if you speak out, he calls you a bigot.

00:48:38.740 That just ain't right.

00:48:39.980 That just ain't right.

00:48:40.760 I think there's a way to be respectful and kind to transgender folks without, I suppose, 1.00

00:48:47.920 like in my Borat analogy, without hating yourself.

00:48:51.760 I think the kind of radical feminist or whatever McKinnon said he was, that's just a lie.

00:48:58.780 I think he's actually driving women out of sport and it troubles me.

00:49:02.080 That's the show for today.

00:49:02.860 I'd love to hear your thoughts on these.

00:49:03.980 These are tough subjects, aren't they?

00:49:05.660 You can't even talk about them in most other media.

00:49:07.840 You say the word transgender, they just say, no, cut off the mic in most media because they 1.00

00:49:14.720 get terrified about that.

00:49:17.120 Hey guys, I'll see you tomorrow.

00:49:17.960 Until then, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,

00:49:21.860 good night.

00:49:22.800 Keep fighting for free.

00:49:23.720 We'll see you tomorrow.

Rebel News Podcast - October 18, 2018

Transgender men are winning women’s sports events. Where are the feminists？

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