Rebel News Podcast - Trudeau all but calls Jody Wilson-Raybould a liar. How is this fight going to end？

00:00:00.120 Hello, my rebels. You're listening to a free audio-only recording of my show, The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:00:06.260 Today we look at how Justin Trudeau is slowly turning more aggressive and hostile towards Jody Wilson-Raybould,

00:00:12.800 the former attorney general who was fired for opposing Trudeau's desire to go lenient on a criminal company called SNC-Lavalin

00:00:23.040 that was caught paying $48 million worth of bribes to the Gaddafi regime. What a story that is.

00:00:28.300 I'll show you how the worm is turning, how Trudeau is marshalling his side and starting to demonize Wilson-Raybould.

00:00:34.660 You've been the judge of that. And you got to see the interview with Kian Bextie today.

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00:01:35.600 Tonight, Justin Trudeau all but calls Jody Wilson-Raybould a liar.

00:01:42.200 How is this fight going to end?

00:01:44.080 It's February 13th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:48.820 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:52.500 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:56.580 The only thing I have to say to the government, the wire publisher, is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:02:05.600 I know we've talked a lot about it, but I think we have to.

00:02:11.560 That explosive Globe and Mail story about Jody Wilson-Raybould being fired as justice minister

00:02:16.300 because she wouldn't drop the criminal charges against a well-connected Quebec engineering firm that was caught paying bribes.

00:02:22.940 It's a great story just as stories go.

00:02:25.400 I mean, it's exotic.

00:02:27.360 The corruption was in Libya, land of desert mystery. 0.99

00:02:31.560 The personalities are absurd and larger than life.

00:02:34.120 I mean, Muammar Gaddafi was as kooky as they got.

00:02:38.720 The engineering firm SNC-Lavalin for a Canadian company sure knew how to play in the big leagues.

00:02:43.320 They were caught paying $48 million in bribes.

00:02:46.280 I mean, you could make a Hollywood thriller out of this.

00:02:49.280 And imagine casting an aboriginal woman, first in her family ever to go to law school. 1.00

00:02:55.280 Imagine casting her as the only ethical one in the whole story,

00:02:58.380 potentially bringing down not only the corrupt company,

00:03:01.980 but also the little clique of elitist college frat boys orbiting around the prime minister, Justin Trudeau.

00:03:07.540 It's too good of a story.

00:03:09.160 I mean, Julia Roberts starred in that old movie, The Pelican Brief. 0.79

00:03:12.920 It was an exciting story, but it's not as exciting as this.

00:03:15.940 Exciting if it were a work of fiction, but it's real.

00:03:20.860 So it's depressing because we are the ones living in a real country that is really being corrupted

00:03:25.340 by connected liberal insiders and their ethically malleable buddies in Ottawa.

00:03:29.620 So what's so interesting is that the media really, I think,

00:03:33.880 I think they like Wilson-Raybould as a person,

00:03:36.540 probably because she's a heartwarming success story, 0.55

00:03:38.540 an aboriginal woman who becomes a lawyer and then becomes a justice minister.

00:03:41.280 But I hear she's actually a nice person in person.

00:03:45.180 She seems to have made friends, at least in political liberal circles.

00:03:49.340 And Trudeau certainly promoted her personality.

00:03:52.700 When she was in his good books, he said she was a symbol of him and what he believed.

00:03:57.960 So it's not very easy for him to throw her under the bus now.

00:04:01.860 She's too likable. 1.00

00:04:03.120 He helped make her likable.

00:04:04.800 And she's an aboriginal woman, first aboriginal justice minister in history.

00:04:07.900 He's not, I mean, she's not some pampered rich white guy like Scott Bryson,

00:04:12.240 the disgraced cabinet minister who was unpersoned a few weeks ago without much fuss.

00:04:17.880 But mainly Jody Wilson-Raybould isn't cooperating anymore.

00:04:22.400 As we told you yesterday, she's lawyered up with no one less than a former Supreme Court judge as a lawyer.

00:04:27.100 Yeah, that's as tough as it gets.

00:04:29.040 Well, yesterday, Justin Trudeau started fighting back for real.

00:04:32.380 He started, well, let's be honest, he started calling her a liar.

00:04:38.740 That's what he's saying here.

00:04:40.060 Let me show you a few clips.

00:04:41.080 Take a look.

00:04:42.300 Last night, I accepted Jody Wilson-Raybould's resignation from cabinet.

00:04:48.680 Frankly, I am both surprised and disappointed by her decision to step down.

00:04:55.820 And let me tell you why.

00:04:56.920 Look how stern he is.

00:05:01.760 He can't believe he's saying these things, that she's saying these things about him, or her allies are at least, to reporters.

00:05:08.620 He's surprised and so disappointed.

00:05:12.640 You know, Trudeau is often disappointed in other people, isn't he?

00:05:15.880 No one's ever good enough for him.

00:05:17.460 He's never the disappointing one.

00:05:19.700 He never gets it wrong.

00:05:20.900 What a disappointment Jody Wilson-Raybould is to him.

00:05:25.380 I mean, first woman Aboriginal justice minister in history, compared to him inheriting everything, being a spoiled trust fund rich kid, 1.00

00:05:36.260 until he finally decided it was time to grow up and rule over us at age 40.

00:05:40.140 Yeah, that spoiled brat on the million-dollar Mercedes Roadster there, he's disappointed in Jody Wilson-Raybould.

00:05:47.360 Look at this.

00:05:47.780 This resignation is not consistent with conversations I had with Jody a few weeks ago,

00:05:54.940 when I asked her to serve as Canada's Minister for Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defense,

00:06:00.680 nor is it consistent with the conversations we've had lately.

00:06:06.280 She's not consistent.

00:06:09.020 That's code for she's lying.

00:06:12.360 She never told me she was upset.

00:06:14.300 She seemed fine with all this.

00:06:17.200 I'm so disappointed in this little liar.

00:06:21.520 Sorry, this inconsistent person.

00:06:25.220 Here's more.

00:06:25.860 And this was an announcement about buses.

00:06:28.940 And he was going to throw her under a bus, as they say.

00:06:33.460 Take a look.

00:06:33.900 In regards to the matter of SNC-Lavalin, let me be direct.

00:06:39.140 The government of Canada did its job, and to the clear public standards expected of it.

00:06:47.460 If anyone felt differently, they had an obligation to raise that with me.

00:06:53.160 No one, including Jody, did that.

00:06:57.760 Everyone else at that press conference was called by their title, Mayor Bowman.

00:07:04.000 But not the first Aboriginal Attorney General in the history.

00:07:06.760 She's just Jody.

00:07:08.260 She's just some silly girl who got in over her head, probably promoted too fast, couldn't keep up, 1.00

00:07:13.540 couldn't keep her story straight.

00:07:15.120 She was inconsistent.

00:07:16.420 Jody.

00:07:17.940 What a shame that Jody couldn't fit in with the boys. 0.99

00:07:20.340 Jody.

00:07:21.440 Jody's what you call a girl, not a woman, not the first Justice Minister who's Aboriginal.

00:07:25.380 Jody.

00:07:26.580 And by the way, just in case you didn't know, Justin Trudeau has checked, and Justin Trudeau

00:07:31.700 did his job.

00:07:33.340 Just in case you want to know, Justin Trudeau has always looked into things, and the government

00:07:36.480 did its job.

00:07:37.120 No one complained to him.

00:07:39.760 So obviously everything's fine.

00:07:40.860 I mean, that is the test, right?

00:07:43.160 If he says everything's fine?

00:07:46.180 Literally dozens, more than half a hundred meetings between SNC-Lavalin and everyone that

00:07:52.200 could lobby on Parliament Hill.

00:07:53.260 A dozen meetings in the Prime Minister's office itself, and hey guys, no one complained.

00:07:59.020 I mean, sure, they're all Montreal liberals, they're all in on the take, they all know

00:08:01.880 how it goes.

00:08:03.620 Jody.

00:08:05.580 So absolutely, I mean, Justin Trudeau says it, so you know it's true.

00:08:09.780 The government made decisions and had things to say about criminal cases, but no one complained.

00:08:16.660 Yeah, no, you corrupt little man.

00:08:18.280 Governments don't decide what crimes are prosecuted and what are not in Canada.

00:08:21.620 That's for prosecutors to decide independently.

00:08:24.120 We don't prosecute or don't prosecute people based on political lobbying.

00:08:27.800 It's a nonpartisan branch of government.

00:08:29.940 Here's more from this little corrupt man.

00:08:31.760 He's Justin.

00:08:32.740 She's Mrs. Wilson-Railbowl. 0.96

00:08:34.840 Take a look.

00:08:35.860 This morning, I convened a cabinet meeting to inform my colleagues of Jody's departure.

00:08:40.820 Minister Sajjan has immediately taken over Jody's responsibilities as Acting Minister of Veterans Affairs.

00:08:48.880 We are as committed as ever to ensuring that Canada's veterans receive the care and support

00:08:54.280 of a grateful nation.

00:08:56.480 I know that Minister Sajjan will serve our women and men in uniform and our veterans with dedication.

00:09:02.380 Silly little Jody, a grown-up will take over, and his name is Minister Sajjan.

00:09:10.760 Don't know if you caught that.

00:09:12.260 I mean, sure.

00:09:13.680 He's got a pretty bad case of what they call stolen valor.

00:09:17.560 He took credit for battle plans that he had no role in or a minuscule role, but look, that

00:09:24.720 just shows he gets it.

00:09:26.580 How the system works, unlike little Jody.

00:09:29.500 Little Jody.

00:09:30.400 I mean, look, Sajjan, excuse me, Minister Sajjan, he knows who's boss.

00:09:39.080 This guy's boss.

00:09:41.440 First of all, why are we still fighting against certain veterans groups in court?

00:09:48.080 Because they're asking for more than we are able to give right now.

00:09:53.560 Little Jody, don't you know?

00:09:56.200 Here's some more from our great leader yesterday.

00:09:58.480 So are you willing to waive that privilege?

00:10:01.080 Would you like to get a full airing of this before it goes any further?

00:10:06.400 Indeed.

00:10:07.040 I've heard those calls and take them very seriously, and that's why I've asked our current

00:10:11.840 Minister of Justice and Attorney General to make recommendations to me on the question

00:10:16.800 of solicitor-client privilege.

00:10:19.060 I will highlight, however, that there's a real danger, and it's been flagged for me, of unintended

00:10:26.900 consequences, particularly because there are two court cases ongoing directly related to

00:10:32.760 this matter that could be impacted by such a decision we might make.

00:10:37.420 I will highlight once again that I am surprised and disappointed and, to be honest, don't entirely

00:10:44.640 understand why Jody Wilson-Raybould made the decision she did.

00:10:50.140 He's not going to do it, in case you don't know.

00:10:54.140 He's not going to waive solicitor-client privilege.

00:10:55.820 He's not going to let her off the hook.

00:10:57.060 He's not going to let her answer his challenges because he doesn't want to let her speak.

00:11:02.460 He wants to be able to speak for her.

00:11:04.780 So little Jody, you know, we can't trust her to say the right things anymore. 0.63

00:11:09.960 She's no longer in cabinet.

00:11:12.300 Trudeau no longer has power over her.

00:11:14.640 Now, Stephen Harper, by contrast, waived his legal privilege when there were legal matters

00:11:19.480 afoot under his tenure.

00:11:21.500 Not only did Harper waive privilege, but he sent his various chiefs of staff, as you can

00:11:27.300 see here, to testify before parliamentary committee openly when they were asked to.

00:11:33.740 You can see his chiefs here, Ian Brody, Nigel Wright, Guy Giorno.

00:11:37.120 Do you think Trudeau would do that?

00:11:38.720 Do you think he'd let Gerald Butts go and answer questions about his 12 meetings with SNC

00:11:44.560 Lavalin?

00:11:46.580 By this point in the Mike Duffy affair, by the way, Chief of Staff Nigel Wright had

00:11:50.220 resigned from Stephen Harper's office.

00:11:52.180 Just to remind you, Mike Duffy, the senator, was being scrutinized for about 90 grand worth

00:11:56.200 of travel and housing expenses.

00:11:58.340 The question was, did he really live in Prince Edward, Rhode Island, or did he live in Ottawa?

00:12:03.040 How many days in each?

00:12:04.340 Because that affected how much of his travel and housing in each city would be paid for

00:12:08.380 by taxpayers.

00:12:09.520 He had one position.

00:12:10.800 It was questioned.

00:12:11.860 Nigel Wright, the Chief of Staff, was frustrated with his quarrel.

00:12:14.160 He thought it was a waste of time over nothing.

00:12:16.800 90 grand isn't nothing.

00:12:17.820 But he was an independently wealthy man.

00:12:19.360 So he literally reached into his own pocket as an independently wealthy man and cut a check

00:12:24.160 from his own account to the government just to repay the expenses, just to end the ethical

00:12:29.380 question mark.

00:12:30.480 That was the scandal.

00:12:32.580 That was the big scandal of Harper's nine and a half years as prime minister.

00:12:38.700 A chief of staff paying money into the government to repay questionable expenses.

00:12:43.580 The second biggest scandal, of course, was a $16 bottle of orange juice.

00:12:50.080 And here we're talking about 50-plus lobbying meetings to let criminals off the hook for

00:12:54.580 $48 million worth of bribes in a third world country.

00:12:58.320 Jody just doesn't understand.

00:13:00.500 And Trudeau can't understand her.

00:13:03.100 I mean, really.

00:13:04.560 She's the one to blame.

00:13:07.200 If anyone, particularly the Attorney General, felt that we were not doing our job fully responsibly

00:13:17.420 and according to all the rules as a government, it was her responsibility to come forward to

00:13:23.560 me this past fall and highlight that directly to me.

00:13:27.920 She did not.

00:13:30.140 Nobody did.

00:13:31.000 And that's why I continue to be puzzled and obviously disappointed by her decision to step

00:13:38.600 down from Kevin.

00:13:40.420 So if anything here is wrong, it's her fault.

00:13:47.540 Because she didn't say he was doing things wrong, so he didn't.

00:13:52.340 It's her fault.

00:13:54.620 And he's just so disappointed in her.

00:13:57.960 She really let him down.

00:14:02.600 Well, the state broadcaster was convinced.

00:14:04.740 Here's the CBC making the case that, really, I think Trudeau is the victim here, isn't he?

00:14:11.160 We've disappointed him.

00:14:14.120 We've all let him down in our own way.

00:14:16.080 Especially that uppity girl, Jody. 1.00

00:14:18.320 Come on, know your place.

00:14:21.260 And even though Bob Fyfe and Steve Chase and Sean Fine, the three Globe and Mail reporters

00:14:25.000 who broke the story, while they're still interested in the story, you know, other members of the

00:14:30.520 Globe and Mail think it's, you know, they're probably overdoing it a bit.

00:14:33.620 Can you guys just rein it in a bit?

00:14:35.160 Here's an actual Globe headline from today.

00:14:36.840 There's nothing sinister in wanting to spare SNC-Lavalin.

00:14:43.080 Hey, guys, there's nothing wrong here at all.

00:14:46.620 Other than Jody Wilson-Raybould.

00:14:48.760 Little Jody is the disappointment.

00:14:50.880 SNC-Lavalin, they're the hero of this story.

00:14:54.820 I mean, can't the Globe and Mail itself go back to the good old days, like way back in

00:14:59.740 December when they ran this as the cover story in the report on Business Magazine?

00:15:03.980 This big PR job?

00:15:06.700 That's the president of SNC-Lavalin looking there.

00:15:09.400 He looks like an honest guy.

00:15:12.200 Yeah, the tide is turning in this story.

00:15:13.860 Official liberal auto is circling the wagons.

00:15:15.960 Here, listen to some of these liberal MPs in Parliament today.

00:15:19.240 There was a committee meeting to look into this.

00:15:23.260 And yeah, yeah.

00:15:26.080 They called it a witch hunt.

00:15:27.580 They said it was fake.

00:15:28.460 They hate Jody Wilson-Raybould because she wasn't willing to be bought off with little

00:15:32.980 political trinkets like they were.

00:15:35.040 So they shut her down. 0.90

00:15:36.320 Take a look.

00:15:37.540 I think it is clear, Mr. Chair, that there was concern among Canadians in terms of how we

00:15:43.200 got to where we are today.

00:15:45.540 And I also think it's clear that the prime minister has been very clear in his interactions.

00:15:51.300 And I think the Justice responsibility, the Justice Committee, has a responsibility to

00:15:55.980 reassure Canadians.

00:15:57.300 Really, I hope that my colleagues across the way will support this motion, which is really

00:16:01.520 a non-partisan version of the motion that the Conservatives have proposed.

00:16:07.700 It is really the bare bones and substance of what everybody around the table and all of

00:16:12.960 Canada really wants is that clarification as to the role between how government functions

00:16:19.260 and how decisions are made.

00:16:20.480 I think today's testimony or comments from particularly the Conservative opposition demonstrate

00:16:27.020 that at best, committees of the House of Commons are political theatre that can occasionally

00:16:33.740 achieve good studies and that we don't have the tools, we don't have the budget, we don't

00:16:38.500 have the mechanisms to go through the fishing expedition and the kind of witch hunt that

00:16:44.400 the Conservatives would like to see.

00:16:45.500 I don't think that we should be changing the way in which we conduct ourselves just because

00:16:53.660 the cameras are on.

00:16:54.560 I think that we need to have that impartial discussion.

00:16:57.320 And my fear is that if the cameras are on, my colleagues across the way will not be able

00:17:02.560 to shut off their partisanship.

00:17:03.940 And that's why I don't support the amendments as proposed by Mr. Cullen.

00:17:09.480 But to vote against what I think most Canadians would see as a pretty reasonable amendment.

00:17:13.300 If you're open to hearing from Ms. Wilson-Raybould, then vote for it.

00:17:16.020 If you're open to hearing from Mr. Butts, then vote for it as well as Mr. Bouchard.

00:17:20.960 If you're not, then you'll vote against it.

00:17:23.280 And those actions will speak louder than your words.

00:17:25.680 Mr. Clerk will proceed with the vote on the amendments.

00:17:28.340 Thank you, Mr. President.

00:17:30.420 So, the question is on the amendment of Mr. Cullen.

00:17:32.840 Mr. Boissonneau.

00:17:34.320 Against.

00:17:35.400 Mr. Essassi.

00:17:36.620 Against.

00:17:37.400 Mr. Fraser.

00:17:38.460 No.

00:17:39.660 Ms. Khalid.

00:17:40.720 No.

00:17:41.840 Mr. McKinnon.

00:17:42.900 No.

00:17:44.300 Mr. Barrette.

00:17:46.440 Yes.

00:17:48.000 Mr. Cooper.

00:17:49.300 Yes.

00:17:50.640 Ms. Raitt.

00:17:51.740 Yes.

00:17:53.180 Mr. Cullen.

00:17:54.220 Yes.

00:17:54.580 I don't know if you understood what was going on there.

00:18:02.720 Other than Nathan Cullen, the bald gentleman from B.C. who's a New Democrat, those were all

00:18:08.380 liberals explaining why they cannot have a public inquiry, even the toothless inquiry

00:18:14.420 of a parliamentary committee.

00:18:16.740 I showed you pictures of Ian Brody, Guy Giorno, Nigel Wright appearing before committee.

00:18:21.840 Just answer questions.

00:18:23.140 I'm not even talking about a police investigation.

00:18:25.820 I'm not even talking about subpoenas, let alone search warrants or wiretaps, as you normally

00:18:30.580 use to fight crime and corruption.

00:18:32.880 The liberals voted unanimously today to block a public inquiry by the weakest of all inquirers,

00:18:43.660 a parliamentary committee.

00:18:44.700 So, that's not going to happen today.

00:18:47.680 Trudeau shut it down.

00:18:49.000 Of course he shut it down.

00:18:51.060 The same way he's gagging little Jody by keeping her under solicitor-client privilege.

00:18:57.440 Justin Trudeau is done with this story, folks.

00:19:00.420 Looks like the Globe and Mail is.

00:19:01.980 The CBC is certainly done.

00:19:04.960 I wonder if it is done.

00:19:07.480 I think it's still a bit of a fight.

00:19:09.360 I see a couple of genuine friends and allies are sticking with Ms. Wilson-Raybould.

00:19:15.880 Here's another cabinet minister retweeting an old photo of herself and Wilson-Raybould.

00:19:20.660 That's Jane Philpott.

00:19:22.720 I don't think that went over well in the PMO today, but they have enough fires to fight.

00:19:26.740 My prediction is this is going to blow over.

00:19:30.140 The CBC and the Globe and Mail itself are already falling into line.

00:19:34.080 The Toronto Star has fallen into line.

00:19:35.660 I predict this will be forgotten long before the next election.

00:19:40.180 The only thing that might change things is if the RCMP decides to file charges.

00:19:49.100 The cops filed charges against Mike Duffy.

00:19:51.100 That was a criminal trial.

00:19:52.560 That was not some parliamentary committee.

00:19:53.980 It was a bogus charge.

00:19:56.220 The trial was a joke.

00:19:58.000 Duffy was acquitted.

00:20:00.140 But the police achieved their real goal, getting rid of Stephen Harper.

00:20:04.380 The RCMP today is now run by Trudeau's hand-picked commissioner, that woman there on the left.

00:20:12.040 I wonder, is she loyal to the politician who just made her career?

00:20:17.920 Or is she loyal to the law and to another woman who was chewed up and spat out by Trudeau

00:20:22.460 for becoming a bit of a problem?

00:20:25.280 Yeah, I'm not optimistic.

00:20:27.260 Stay with us for more.

00:20:30.140 Welcome back.

00:20:43.180 Well, bombshell report out of Alberta by our Calgary reporter, Kian Bexty.

00:20:47.820 As you may recall, a few months back, Rachel Notley said she had investigated two of her

00:20:54.240 own NDP MLAs for sexual misconduct that she found after an internal investigation, that

00:21:01.620 there was room for these two MLAs to have education and direction or training.

00:21:06.560 But she refused to identify who those two people were.

00:21:10.340 All we learned is that it involved things not at the workplace.

00:21:16.100 Well, that was very curious, even more curious, that Rachel Notley would not tell voters who

00:21:21.220 these MLAs were in advance of the election.

00:21:23.860 Don't you think that's something that's in the public interest?

00:21:27.380 Isn't that something that a voter ought to know about before a vote?

00:21:31.820 Well, our Kian Bexty got a tip about who one of these MLAs was, and he started to do research,

00:21:37.120 and he kept pulling up that string.

00:21:38.780 And, well, a lot of things unraveled.

00:21:40.640 And joining us now via Skype from Calgary is Kian Bexty.

00:21:43.940 Kian, great to see you, and congratulations on a blockbuster.

00:21:46.940 The MLAs in question will not answer your direct question about it.

00:21:53.780 They will not confirm.

00:21:55.140 But tell us who you suspect these two MLAs are and what the basis is for your report today.

00:22:02.580 Well, I'll start with the basis of what the report is.

00:22:05.020 And we ended up going through Darren Billis' divorce proceedings, which normally isn't something

00:22:11.000 that is in the public interest.

00:22:12.140 But through information that was available to reporters sanctioned by the Court of the

00:22:17.000 Queen's Bench in Alberta, which includes me, we were able to gain access to these documents.

00:22:22.600 And it uncovered a whole swath of things that I think Rachel Notley wanted to keep quiet.

00:22:29.180 And that might have contributed to her wanting to keep everyone anonymous.

00:22:33.460 Because keep in mind, Darren Billis is one of her chief lieutenants.

00:22:36.300 He's the Minister of Economic Diversification and Trade, and this is extremely embarrassing

00:22:43.040 for him.

00:22:43.820 In these court documents, not only did we find he cheated on his wife, we're not sure exactly

00:22:49.420 who he cheated on his wife with after marriage, but prior to getting married to his longtime

00:22:55.240 girlfriend, he ended up having a relationship with MLA-to-be Heather Sweet, who ended up becoming

00:23:01.920 chair of the government caucus in charge of a whole lot of human resource issues, which

00:23:08.000 this sexual misconduct would have included.

00:23:10.600 There's a lot of questions that this raised, but also Darren Billis' own wife accuses him

00:23:16.880 of being a drug addict and an alcoholic.

00:23:21.100 So there certainly is some concerning things here, and definitely it's in the public interest.

00:23:26.340 Normally, I wouldn't want to comment on someone's private divorce.

00:23:29.740 But when things come up, like drug addiction and an abuse of taxpayer resources, if you

00:23:34.720 watch my former video, he had Minister Sandra Janssen's chief of staff come cover for him

00:23:41.180 in divorce court one day, which is just bizarre.

00:23:44.700 So there's a lot of things that were brought up with me going through these divorce files,

00:23:48.560 and I think it goes to show exactly why Rachel Notley wanted to keep these NDP MLAs anonymous.

00:23:55.300 Yeah, I reviewed some of the documents that you got from the court, and there were a lot

00:23:58.780 of things in there that were strictly of a personal or private nature that you and I decided we

00:24:04.700 were not going to touch at all.

00:24:06.700 They just are not relevant to voters, their personal matters.

00:24:10.300 And everyone, including Rachel Notley, including Justin Trudeau, has some sphere of their life

00:24:15.400 that's private.

00:24:16.340 But I agree with you.

00:24:17.760 If Darren Billis' wife swears an affidavit, that means she's saying on pain of perjury,

00:24:24.360 this is true, files it at the court.

00:24:27.160 And I think we have an excerpt from that affidavit here where she says that Darren Billis spent

00:24:34.060 copious amounts of money on these addictions, saying that he has a lifestyle engulfed in a

00:24:41.200 lifestyle of drugs and alcohol.

00:24:45.680 Is that merely a private matter?

00:24:48.560 I don't think so.

00:24:49.880 And again, we don't know if this is a true statement, if this is an exaggeration, if this

00:24:54.640 is an angry person.

00:24:56.760 You telephoned Mrs. Billis, and you sent her an email, and she didn't deny the question.

00:25:02.200 She didn't want to engage with you at all.

00:25:04.000 But you put these questions to everyone involved here.

00:25:07.140 Did anyone deny the facts that you put to them?

00:25:11.400 No.

00:25:12.120 Actually, I just got back from a press conference.

00:25:14.480 Coincidentally, Rachel Notley had Minister Billis in Calgary today.

00:25:18.340 I went and joined that press conference and asked her a blunt question to either confirm

00:25:24.160 or deny if Darren Billis has a drug problem, and if Darren Billis is, in fact, one of the

00:25:29.660 MLAs in question that she kept anonymous back in November.

00:25:34.820 And all she did was insult the news organization that I work for, say that my question was 0.61

00:25:42.460 irresponsible, and that she wasn't going to answer it.

00:25:45.060 And Minister Billis reiterated the same.

00:25:47.400 Yeah.

00:25:47.800 You know, for those viewers who might be saying, oh, I don't like you talking about someone's

00:25:51.860 drug abuse.

00:25:52.760 Well, the media's standard, I think, was set with Rob Ford, the late mayor of Toronto.

00:25:59.540 And I think it's legitimate if a mayor is doing drugs.

00:26:03.540 I think that's, especially illegal drugs, especially consorting with, like, where do

00:26:07.280 you buy drugs?

00:26:07.980 You buy your drugs from a criminal, I suppose.

00:26:10.800 I mean, I guess marijuana's legal now, but these allegations predate the legalization

00:26:14.560 of the drug.

00:26:16.860 I think that's in the public domain.

00:26:18.480 And Darren Billis or Rachel Notley could say, no, he's not a drug addict.

00:26:22.020 Okay.

00:26:22.580 But they have not denied it.

00:26:23.960 You've put it to them in writing, both Billis and the Premier's office.

00:26:27.420 You also raised something, you just alluded to it there.

00:26:31.940 This is a divorce case. 0.97

00:26:33.080 This should be a private matter between Darren Billis and his estranged wife.

00:26:37.860 But Sandra Jansen's chief of staff, Heather Mack, was sent by the NDP government, that's

00:26:44.860 Heather Mack there, was sent by the NDP government to the divorce court. 1.00

00:26:51.100 For what reason, we don't know.

00:26:54.660 Why would government staff on government time go to someone's divorce?

00:27:01.700 I don't know.

00:27:02.100 I mean, maybe to help, to intimidate, to report back, to do damage control.

00:27:07.060 There's just a lot of weirdness here.

00:27:09.020 And the fact that the NDP is covering it up adds to the weirdness.

00:27:12.960 Yeah, I like to think that the work we do is important.

00:27:18.520 And I certainly hope that the mainstream media and even the United Conservative Party picks

00:27:22.580 this up.

00:27:23.060 Because when you have a minister of the crown, especially someone as high up as Darren Billis,

00:27:28.220 abusing drugs and alcohol, if that is in fact the case, it really calls into question

00:27:33.120 his ability to make decisions.

00:27:35.980 For example, they just invested millions of dollars in artificial intelligence technology

00:27:40.760 in Alberta.

00:27:41.560 That was what this press conference was about.

00:27:44.080 They're using taxpayer resources to run their campaign, really.

00:27:47.180 But if we have a minister of the crown who we don't know what kind of drugs he's taking,

00:27:52.380 it's really concerning and is of crucial public interest to figure out what that is and how

00:27:58.380 long that has been happening and to what degree his involvement with drugs is.

00:28:05.760 Yeah, and by the way, having problems in life is not necessarily a disqualifier for having

00:28:13.840 a public life.

00:28:15.000 Seamus O'Regan, the former Veterans Affairs Minister, admitted to being an alcoholic and

00:28:19.920 he got help.

00:28:21.180 And I presume he's got help.

00:28:22.380 But I mean, John McCallum, who was recently sacked as ambassador to China, he wasn't sacked

00:28:27.580 for alcoholism.

00:28:28.440 So you can overcome a drug and alcohol addiction.

00:28:32.740 You should probably take a break from public life while you're doing it.

00:28:36.260 That certainly was the lesson we all heard when Rob Ford was there.

00:28:39.620 These allegations weren't by some nobody on the street.

00:28:43.540 And they weren't said casually.

00:28:44.920 They were sworn affidavits, filed on pain of perjury by his wife to the court.

00:28:51.440 And I suppose we have to take everything with a grain of salt in a family law setting that

00:28:56.080 could be driven by emotion.

00:28:57.820 But for the media party to ignore this, and for Darren Billis and Rachel Notley to ignore

00:29:05.180 it, I don't think that's enough.

00:29:08.840 You mentioned this press conference that you were at today.

00:29:12.120 I'd like to show a quick clip of you putting the question to Notley and Billis.

00:29:16.560 Let's take a look at that now.

00:29:18.160 Premier Rachel Notley, documents filed by Minister Billis' wife, sworn affidavits, suggest that

00:29:24.380 he has a problem with drug addiction, as well as suggest, the details in that sworn affidavit

00:29:28.760 suggest that he might be one of the MLAs who the NDP caucus covered up in terms of sexual

00:29:34.000 allegations.

00:29:34.980 Can you confirm or deny this?

00:29:36.600 What I can say is that that question is essentially irresponsible, rumour-mongering, and with the

00:29:43.280 greatest of respect to you, you work for an organisation that probably ought to be registered

00:29:47.940 as a third party under the elections legislation.

00:29:51.600 And so I have nothing more to say to that.

00:29:53.940 Minister Billis, will you answer the question?

00:29:57.060 I have nothing for you.

00:29:58.920 Any questions?

00:30:01.660 It is a shocking allegation, but it was made under oath by his wife.

00:30:08.800 So I don't know if it's a rumour.

00:30:11.120 I mean, I suppose his wife could be saying the rumour.

00:30:13.800 If it wasn't true, I suppose they could say it.

00:30:17.420 I don't think their answer was sufficient.

00:30:19.320 I don't think their answer was sufficient, and I don't think that their response to me

00:30:25.000 in saying that my question is irresponsible reflects on the question at all.

00:30:29.340 I think it is a question that is what journalists should ask.

00:30:34.980 They should ask the tough questions, the questions that the NDP might make the NDP and Premier Rachel

00:30:39.960 Notley uncomfortable.

00:30:41.880 But Albertans deserve answers to these questions, and we're just not getting them.

00:30:45.320 Yeah, I think that it reminded me, and I told you this earlier today, it reminded me of

00:30:50.420 when you went to Omar Khadr's press conference.

00:30:52.860 You used the word terrorist, and I saw the face of his lawyer, who was literally shocked.

00:30:58.200 He had never had a journalist in Canada ever say the word terrorist about Omar Khadr, because

00:31:05.240 they're all too polite, and they don't want Omar Khadr's feelings hurt.

00:31:09.400 And it was just like a splash of cold water that someone actually asked him a tough question.

00:31:14.740 And here you've got the media party that's used just to being stenographers for Rachel Notley.

00:31:20.180 We saw that a few weeks ago with their unskeptical, incurious reportage of her bogus upgrader announcement.

00:31:29.020 I think that your report, which is well-documented, and you can find it on our website, I recommend

00:31:35.400 people, even not Albertans, to watch it.

00:31:37.940 I think that not a single media party journalist will follow your story, even though it's meticulously researched.

00:31:45.040 All the documents are put there on the screen.

00:31:47.460 I don't think a single journalist is going to follow it, because number one, they don't want to follow the rebel.

00:31:51.900 And number two, they don't want to be mean to Rachel Notley or Darren Billis.

00:31:54.520 And the fact that there's a spurned wife who didn't have spousal support paid, who was treated poorly,

00:32:02.220 who was cheated on by an alleged drug-using minister, well, that's less important than supporting the NDP.

00:32:10.320 I'm going to say it better myself.

00:32:12.800 Well, we'll see.

00:32:13.960 We'll see.

00:32:14.480 Listen, great work.

00:32:15.280 Thanks for doing it.

00:32:16.300 And keep asking the questions that the mainstream media won't.

00:32:19.320 And the fact that they had nothing to say to you other than they don't like you,

00:32:23.800 I think that's proof you got them.

00:32:25.580 Keep it up.

00:32:26.760 Thank you.

00:32:27.400 All right, there you have it.

00:32:28.040 Kian Bexty, our Calgary reporter.

00:32:31.340 What do you think?

00:32:32.360 I think that we know there are two MLAs who were investigated for sexual misconduct.

00:32:38.840 And we know that Rachel Notley is keeping them a secret.

00:32:41.720 We know that Mrs. Billis has alleged affairs with her husband, between her husband and another MLA.

00:32:48.060 I think that's who it is.

00:32:49.540 I don't think it's an irresponsible question at all.

00:32:51.480 I think that Rachel Notley has made it an issue by covering it up when she herself investigated it.

00:32:57.580 Stay with us.

00:32:58.740 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:32:59.380 Hey, welcome back on the show yesterday about the SSC-Lavalin scandal and Jody Wilson-Raybould resigning from cabinet.

00:33:17.420 James writes,

00:33:18.140 Let's not let Trudeau off the hook, no matter how much the CBC and the Bothoff-MSM run cover for him.

00:33:24.260 You must believe the whole Laurentian elite are gearing up to try to desperately discredit her in any way they can.

00:33:31.920 You know, look, I don't know.

00:33:33.260 I've never met her.

00:33:34.180 I've never talked to her.

00:33:34.980 I don't even know anyone who knows her closely.

00:33:39.580 But I think, I just think she's a pretty straight arrow.

00:33:44.180 She seems that way.

00:33:45.540 She seems like an ideologue and a real liberal and even a lefty on some matters.

00:33:51.620 Obviously, she has a lot of strong views on aboriginal issues.

00:33:55.420 But I don't think she's, I just don't think she's corrupt. 0.76

00:33:58.500 I don't think there's dirt on her.

00:34:00.420 You know, I don't think she, I mean, the very fact that she actually quit cabinet on a point of principle,

00:34:07.380 I think that shows you that she's a little bit different than most creatures in Ottawa.

00:34:11.420 I think the demonization will be just to say, well, what Trudeau did today is,

00:34:17.900 well, you never blew the whistle on me before.

00:34:20.280 I don't know what all this, you were fine in cabinet before.

00:34:22.760 I don't know what all this is about.

00:34:25.480 You were fine with what I was doing.

00:34:27.340 Why are you acting so high and mighty now, little Jody?

00:34:30.740 I think that's the line.

00:34:33.420 Doug writes, throughout the scandal, I expected many of the low information Canadian electorate

00:34:37.700 to rush to make a hero of Wilson-Raybould for taking what they perceived to be a principal stance

00:34:41.980 on the SNC-Lavalin file and defines the prime minister.

00:34:44.620 I never expected it from you.

00:34:48.640 Well, I think it's insane that we have a system that was allowing a company

00:34:55.640 that paid 48 million bucks in bribes, that's under criminal prosecution.

00:35:00.540 I think it's insane that you can lobby your way out of a crime.

00:35:04.600 I don't know why you think it's surprising that I would be for letting prosecutors

00:35:08.860 prosecute criminal cases in court.

00:35:12.120 And if they think that it's appropriate to cut a plea bargain,

00:35:15.840 I'm not a fan of plea bargains, but if the prosecution, in their own minds,

00:35:20.420 says, well, our case is weak or there's a problem, let's cut a deal, fine.

00:35:25.700 But to have more than 50 private meetings with politicians to get criminal charges dropped?

00:35:34.180 You thought I would be on the side of SNC-Lavalin?

00:35:37.780 You thought I would be on the side of the lobbyists?

00:35:41.080 I don't know why you think I would be that way.

00:35:44.800 I mean, maybe write me a follow-up letter.

00:35:47.060 I just don't know.

00:35:48.140 I mean, if you think I suddenly agree with everything that Jody Wilson-Raybould stands for,

00:35:52.080 ideologically and politically, I can assure you that I do not.

00:35:56.780 I just don't.

00:35:58.440 I think she's wrong on marijuana law. 0.99

00:36:01.220 I think she's wrong on euthanasia law.

00:36:03.980 I think I don't understand all of her points of view on aboriginal title,

00:36:08.600 but I probably disagree with them.

00:36:10.860 I'm not talking about that.

00:36:12.180 I'm talking about she's the first person in three years to actually resign on principle 0.99

00:36:15.440 from Trudeau's cabinet.

00:36:16.800 I think that's pretty amazing.

00:36:19.400 Glenn writes, I hate to say it, but I doubt that this will sway many liberal supporters.

00:36:25.380 Yeah, you're probably right.

00:36:26.820 You're probably right.

00:36:27.600 I mean, and of course, I think you mean voters.

00:36:33.980 Of course, Trudeau's support base is the media.

00:36:38.020 And we saw the media nonstop go after Harper for a $16 bottle of orange juice from Bev Oda

00:36:44.760 until she was drummed out of cabinet. 0.99

00:36:46.660 We saw the Mike Duffy nothing burger of a trial.

00:36:50.160 The fact that this, I mean, this has been a live story for about a week.

00:36:54.820 I don't expect it to have the year-long lifespan that Mike Duffy's stuff did.

00:37:00.160 Let's see if we're wrong.

00:37:01.040 So yeah, I think not only is Trudeau's main base and the media going to grow tired of it

00:37:05.080 very soon, and some of them are already turning against Wilson-Raybould,

00:37:08.420 but I think your average low-info voter out there just thinks Trudeau's still dreamy.

00:37:13.260 And yeah, it's too bad that he threw overboard the first aboriginal woman justice minister

00:37:18.240 in Canadian history, but you know, got to crack a few eggs to make an omelet.

00:37:23.340 That's the show for today.

00:37:24.460 I'm going to try and mix it up tomorrow unless, who knows, maybe there's a bombshell

00:37:27.000 on this story again tomorrow, but I want to talk about other things.

00:37:30.360 There's a lot of other news out there, and I have one story in my mind.

00:37:34.700 What did you think of Kian Bexty's report?

00:37:36.960 I encourage you to watch the whole thing.

00:37:39.200 You know what, I'm nervous when you look into a divorce,

00:37:42.240 divorce, files, personal stuff, it's irrelevant, but a credible sworn affidavit by a man's wife

00:37:48.760 saying he's a drug addict, and that person is a senior cabinet minister,

00:37:52.180 at the very least, he himself should go on the record and say, not true.

00:37:55.140 He did not do that when Kian Bexty put the question to him.

00:37:58.720 The fact that Rachel Notley had an investigation into sexual misconduct of two MLAs,

00:38:04.340 and we put that to them today, Kian did, and they wouldn't affirm or deny it.

00:38:09.500 He says, we've got a real story here, folks, so keep watching that one.

00:38:13.580 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:38:16.380 to you at home, good night.

00:38:18.300 Keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - February 14, 2019

Trudeau all but calls Jody Wilson-Raybould a liar. How is this fight going to end？

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