Rebel News Podcast - Trudeau had the government take over the political leaders' debates. And surprise — he decided to kick out Maxime Bernier

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today's show is about Maxime Bernier, and should he be banned from the upcoming leaders' debates?

00:00:07.700 Well, the answer is, of course not. No one should be banned.

00:00:10.420 It should be up to individual debate hosts and other parties, and, you know, let there be a dozen or a hundred leaders' debates, or none, if no one wants them.

00:00:20.080 But to have the government decide that, that's where it gets creepy.

00:00:23.940 That's where it gets banana republically. I'll talk about that today.

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00:00:50.820 Okay, here's today's broadcast.

00:00:52.660 Tonight, Justin Trudeau had the government take over the political leaders' debates, and, surprise, he decided to kick out Maxime Bernier.

00:01:05.660 It's August 15th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:08.280 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:14.140 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:18.180 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:24.060 Who should run the debates between the party leaders in the federal election?

00:01:34.360 In a free country, the answer is anyone.

00:01:38.700 In fact, pretty much the only wrong answer is the government.

00:01:43.060 If it helps, think about your local community voting for an alderman or a school trustee or a local politician of any sort.

00:01:50.100 Who should host a debate? 0.97

00:01:53.180 Well, it sounds very ominous and dramatic, but really it's just, you know, your local Rotary Club, a local church, a local school.

00:01:58.380 What's the difference, really?

00:01:59.460 It's just people who care about the election, who want to hear from all sides.

00:02:02.720 Or maybe they don't want to hear from all sides.

00:02:04.300 That's their choice.

00:02:05.200 Maybe you have debates on a certain theme, a certain issue.

00:02:08.860 Transit, maybe, if someone cares.

00:02:10.360 Sometimes you have elections for a mayor, for example, and you can literally have, sometimes, 30 people on the ballot for mayor in some of the big cities.

00:02:20.920 30.

00:02:21.880 Now, a local neighborhood group shouldn't be forced to have all 30 of them if there's only a handful of real candidates who have a chance of winning.

00:02:31.440 Let things happen naturally, I say.

00:02:33.380 Let candidates choose which debates they want to go to.

00:02:36.060 Let groups choose who they want to invite.

00:02:38.920 Well, if there's a disagreement, let the public know.

00:02:41.280 If some people are excluded, let the public know.

00:02:43.040 Maybe they'd agree with that.

00:02:44.380 Maybe they'd be angry by that.

00:02:45.600 Maybe they'd sympathize.

00:02:46.500 Maybe they'd have other debates.

00:02:47.620 I don't know.

00:02:48.340 I just think the last people who ought to control all this are the government, since it's the government that hangs in the balance here.

00:02:57.140 So you shouldn't let the incumbents make the decision.

00:02:59.420 You don't want a mayor choosing who gets to debate against him for mayor, right?

00:03:06.880 Well, surely that applies to the national level, too.

00:03:10.100 Surely a mayor shouldn't be able to silence his toughest challenger.

00:03:14.620 That should apply for prime minister, too, even more so.

00:03:17.240 And we've talked about this before, how the liberal government just decided one day, just to take over the debates, they just did it.

00:03:23.840 And the bailout media, they just rolled over, they just did, because they're all being rented by Trudeau now, either permanently, like the CBC, or temporarily, as with the $600 million newspaper bailout.

00:03:35.720 So they just, they just agreed to this.

00:03:38.400 I showed you this press release, this outrageous press release, the other day, where the liberals just said, hey, we're appointing our hand-picked people to run these debates, but we're not even trusting them to make the key decisions.

00:03:50.680 Look at this line.

00:03:52.480 In the interest of time, and as a starting point for the upcoming 2019 debates, the government has established clear criteria for participation by political party leaders.

00:04:02.560 And then they outline their liberal rules there.

00:04:06.880 Now, this press release was dated October of 2018.

00:04:10.560 Do you really think that there was no time for a debate committee to come up for rules for a debate for an election that was 12 months in the future?

00:04:18.600 The rules can be hammered out in a week, in a day, if needed.

00:04:21.640 It wasn't about the interest of time.

00:04:23.240 It was about the interest of the liberal party.

00:04:25.580 They wrote the rules here.

00:04:26.900 The liberals did it, and then they just announced it.

00:04:29.180 They just nationalized the debates, and they wrote the rules, and so they're deciding which of their opponents they want there.

00:04:36.800 Now, they couldn't really avoid Andrew Scheer or Jagmeet Singh.

00:04:41.480 That would just be too high-handed to kick them out.

00:04:44.420 But what about the smaller parties?

00:04:46.080 What about Elizabeth May?

00:04:47.780 Really, she's just a Me Too for the liberals. 0.89

00:04:50.840 What about the Bloc Québécois?

00:04:51.980 Can they participate?

00:04:54.100 The party has almost disappeared, you know.

00:04:56.700 And obviously, it's irrelevant in English Canada.

00:04:58.520 They're not even running outside Quebec, so should they be in the debates?

00:05:01.640 What about Maxime Bernier and his People's Party?

00:05:04.280 Like I said before, those would be up to the media and debate hosts and even other parties before.

00:05:09.820 Some party might say, I'm not participating unless, as Elizabeth May is in.

00:05:13.780 Some party might say, I'm not participating if Elizabeth May is in. 1.00

00:05:16.760 A few elections back, when Elizabeth May, who was in the single digits in the polls, had no chance of being PM,

00:05:22.940 she didn't have a full slate of candidates.

00:05:24.400 She was really just a one-person pundit, but the media really liked her, so they campaigned to get her in the debates.

00:05:29.920 And the conservatives made the political decision to agree.

00:05:33.000 They didn't want to seem intransigent or censorious, so they agreed.

00:05:36.700 Now, maybe it was a good thing.

00:05:38.140 I don't know.

00:05:38.620 In the end, it wasn't up to the conservatives themselves.

00:05:41.140 They didn't have the power to just say yes or no.

00:05:43.760 They could have pouted and not participated, but that probably would have looked bad.

00:05:46.480 In the end, they went along with it.

00:05:47.520 But not now.

00:05:49.700 Now the liberals can just sort of make these strategic decisions about who they want and who they don't want.

00:05:53.540 They can just make it so.

00:05:54.860 And there's no debating it.

00:05:56.600 They just order it, and so they have done.

00:05:58.360 So look at this.

00:05:58.840 This is from last year.

00:06:00.420 Last year, here's Trudeau's spokesman, an MP named Karina Gould, and she said,

00:06:05.080 Bernier can join leaders' debates if People's Party meets nomination threshold.

00:06:10.520 Gould.

00:06:11.900 Maybe a little bit.

00:06:12.480 Maxime Bernier would be eligible to appear in the 2019 leaders' debates if his upstart People's Party successfully nominates candidates in at least 90% of the ridings,

00:06:20.480 Democratic Institutions Minister Karina Gould said Thursday.

00:06:24.880 By the way, Bernier has a lot more candidates nominated right now than the Liberal Party does.

00:06:30.000 I don't know if you know this, but the liberals have dozens of unfilled seats, no candidates, just none.

00:06:34.680 Trudeau will handpick them.

00:06:36.320 So much for local democracy, which he loves to, or used to love to brag about.

00:06:39.920 But my point is, Bernier surely exceeds the liberals in nominations, but he's being excluded.

00:06:47.900 It's just a fact.

00:06:50.560 The next official debate's coming up.

00:06:52.620 Among debates, Bernier just isn't allowed.

00:06:56.640 And unlike last time, when there was public pressure brought to bear on the debate organizers and the other parties,

00:07:01.840 it's all moot here.

00:07:02.700 What Trudeau wants, Trudeau gets.

00:07:03.800 Karina Gould looks friendly enough as a person, but she's actually a bit of a thug. 1.00

00:07:12.160 Remember, she's the one that Trudeau appointed to censor the Internet.

00:07:14.940 She's the one who set up that five-man Internet emergency censorship panel that the chief clerk of the Privy Council is going to be on. 0.98

00:07:22.060 They'll deploy in the election to shut down stories they don't like.

00:07:24.520 So she simply doesn't want Bernier there, so it's done.

00:07:28.120 Even if the Monk debates, even the CBC, even all the other parties wanted Bernier there, they can't because the government just decided.

00:07:34.820 Like a mayor just deciding which of his rivals can or can't have the honor and privilege of debating him.

00:07:39.860 Look, I know a lot of our viewers at The Rebel are Andrew Scheer supporters.

00:07:43.520 Not fans so much.

00:07:44.800 I've yet to actually meet someone who loves Andrew Scheer.

00:07:48.240 It's more of a loyalty thing to the conservative party.

00:07:50.860 It's a passive thing.

00:07:51.580 Fine.

00:07:53.080 I've met plenty of people who think Maxime Bernier is a splittist who's going to split the vote.

00:07:57.660 And, you know, there's some truth in that.

00:07:58.820 So, fine.

00:07:59.740 That can be the conservative party's point of view.

00:08:02.280 They'd prefer it if Bernier wasn't in the debates, perhaps.

00:08:04.520 But having that point of view is completely different than having Justin Trudeau, through the power of the government,

00:08:09.820 simply order that a candidate is banned.

00:08:13.460 A candidate who surely has just as much right to be there as Elizabeth May.

00:08:17.200 And, insanely, the leader of the Bloc Hebecois, I'm serious, under the Trudeau rules,

00:08:23.620 the leader of the Bloc Hebecois will be in the English language debates,

00:08:26.340 even though he has no candidates in English Canada,

00:08:28.900 but not Maxime Bernier because that suits Trudeau just right?

00:08:32.620 That's weird.

00:08:33.120 Look, when even a Toronto Star columnist knows it's unfair, it's time to scratch your head.

00:08:38.100 Here's the star.

00:08:39.960 Meanwhile, the main political parties have become too clubby.

00:08:42.440 When it comes to leaders' debates, the Liberals, Tories, and NDP know the debates don't have huge viewership,

00:08:47.800 but work to their benefit for public exposure and winning seats.

00:08:51.100 Even though they've now let in May twice and keep including the Bloc Hebecois, 1.00

00:08:54.720 which remains controversial, it focuses primarily on them.

00:08:57.580 Clubby.

00:08:58.080 Clubby.

00:08:58.420 That's exactly the word.

00:08:59.420 How much difference is there really, really, between Justin Trudeau and Andrew Scheer on key issues like immigration, for example?

00:09:07.600 Andrew Scheer has publicly said he does not disagree with Trudeau on the number of immigrants

00:09:11.300 or the demographic mix from what countries they come.

00:09:14.580 How much difference between Trudeau and Scheer on dairy cartels, on multiculturalism, on political correctness?

00:09:21.760 Scheer is even copying Justin Trudeau's phrase about diversity.

00:09:25.080 It's a really bit weird.

00:09:26.100 Listen to this.

00:09:26.760 If we want to understand what Canada is and what it can be, we need to understand where we have come from.

00:09:34.000 From the very first Indigenous peoples, to each wave of new arrivals that have come to Canada,

00:09:39.480 to hopeful newcomers that are arriving even today at Pearson and other ports of entry,

00:09:45.120 all are part of that shared story.

00:09:47.520 And we are all part of a grand tale still being written.

00:09:52.300 A success story of different people, humanity in all its diversity, each adding its own chapter.

00:10:00.360 One country, the true north, strong and free.

00:10:03.900 Yeah.

00:10:04.300 Now, believe me, I want Andrew Scheer to beat Justin Trudeau in the upcoming election, of course.

00:10:07.820 But I'm not a party member of any party.

00:10:10.500 I actually care about issues.

00:10:11.960 I want conservative policies.

00:10:13.640 Scheer would obviously be better than Trudeau on many things.

00:10:15.820 But I want to have a choice.

00:10:16.840 I want Canadians to have a choice.

00:10:18.140 And I want Canadians to hear that there is a choice out there.

00:10:20.920 And maybe Andrew Scheer can be pushed into being more conservative.

00:10:24.440 It reminds me of when Doug Ford ran for the conservative leadership in Ontario after Patrick Brown.

00:10:28.920 And Ford said he was going to oppose the carbon tax.

00:10:31.860 Patrick Brown had been for it.

00:10:33.920 All the other candidates were for it, more or less.

00:10:37.580 And there was great squawking in the establishment about Doug Ford, how dare you?

00:10:41.080 Including from the Liberals, because they wanted that issue taken off the treadmill. 0.74

00:10:43.980 They didn't want to have to debate it.

00:10:45.080 They wanted to pocket that issue as taken for granted win and move on to the next one.

00:10:49.520 Maxine Bernier probably doesn't have a statistical chance to become prime minister. 1.00

00:10:53.420 But he is certain to put forward ideas that many Canadians share,

00:10:56.900 especially ideas that are considered politically incorrect.

00:10:59.840 Ideas that the establishment club doesn't even want to talk about.

00:11:03.560 Sort of like Elizabeth May.

00:11:05.980 She's allowed, though.

00:11:07.040 It's so obvious what's going on here.

00:11:09.340 If the Bloc Hebecois can be included under Trudeau's rules,

00:11:11.640 if Elizabeth May can be included under Trudeau's rules, 0.75

00:11:14.060 then excluding Bernier is obviously a political choice.

00:11:17.640 The Liberals think it helps them for some reason.

00:11:19.620 I bet Andrew Scheer thinks it helps him, too.

00:11:22.800 But mainly, it just helps the establishment.

00:11:25.100 I don't like helping the establishment,

00:11:28.460 because I think the establishment is wrong on so many issues.

00:11:31.000 But mainly, I think it's creepy and a bit banana republic-y 1.00

00:11:33.860 for the government to choose the rules of its own opponents.

00:11:37.280 Who gets to debate them or not?

00:11:38.400 Whether or not you like Bernier is not the point here, actually.

00:11:41.260 It's whether or not you think the government ought to be able to ban their challengers.

00:11:44.940 And surely any conservative can be against that,

00:11:47.300 even if they personally don't want Bernier in there.

00:11:49.560 Oh, and by the way, if your goal is to tamp down populist anger

00:11:54.640 that's roiling the world,

00:11:56.420 I'm pretty sure banning populist dissenters from a debate

00:12:00.680 that they would otherwise qualify for

00:12:03.020 is about the worst way to do it.

00:12:05.360 But what would I know about populist conservatism?

00:12:08.480 Stay with us, Moorhead.

00:12:09.460 Welcome back.

00:12:24.320 Well, by banning Maxime Bernier from the federal election debates,

00:12:29.000 Justin Trudeau and Andrew Scheer, who's just fine with this,

00:12:32.160 have managed to silence the loudest voice in Canada

00:12:35.560 on certain key issues.

00:12:37.160 Freedom of speech, fighting against political correctness,

00:12:39.840 and another one of them is immigration.

00:12:42.800 It is not particularly in the interests of any of those leaders,

00:12:46.120 certainly not the NDP or the Green Party,

00:12:48.700 to talk about Roxham Road.

00:12:51.640 That's a little, well, what used to be a dead-end alley,

00:12:55.160 a little road in New York State,

00:12:57.140 across which is a little ditch,

00:12:58.800 on the other side of which is Quebec.

00:13:00.000 But it's turned into a major highway for illegal fake refugees, 1.00

00:13:05.240 just walking up from the United States to Canada

00:13:07.780 and claiming asylum.

00:13:09.080 I call them fake because legally and factually,

00:13:11.900 you cannot be a refugee once you are now in the United States.

00:13:16.540 And yet Canada has taken 50,000 people through this opening.

00:13:21.600 Joining us now from Montreal is Kian Bexty,

00:13:24.420 who just visited Roxham Road today.

00:13:26.980 Great to see you, Kian.

00:13:29.320 Thanks for having me.

00:13:30.320 Well, it's a pleasure.

00:13:32.300 You're in Montreal.

00:13:33.500 You were just at Roxham Road.

00:13:35.400 Tell us what it looks like.

00:13:37.020 We sent reporters there a couple years ago

00:13:40.180 when it was still a fairly offbeat road.

00:13:45.440 There weren't any permanent structures there.

00:13:47.660 What does it look like now?

00:13:50.880 Well, the camp is completely set up and it's pretty permanent.

00:13:54.820 They have accessibility ramps built.

00:13:57.380 You can probably see here on the B-roll,

00:14:00.300 very fresh wood put together

00:14:02.280 so that in case any refugees are in a wheelchair,

00:14:05.660 they'll make their way up into the RCMP compound

00:14:07.800 so that they can be booked and then put into a bus.

00:14:12.340 You can see the bus here

00:14:13.540 that then drives them down the Canadian side of Roxham Road

00:14:18.000 into a secondary facility where they're all sorted out

00:14:21.920 until they are ready to go to their refugee board hearing,

00:14:26.600 which, from what I understand,

00:14:29.260 many of them just don't show up to at all once they're in Canada.

00:14:33.220 Well, yeah.

00:14:33.880 I mean, of course, those refugee board hearings,

00:14:35.840 there's such a backlog.

00:14:37.940 Some of them are literally being scheduled 10 years from now.

00:14:42.720 So they're not detained.

00:14:43.980 They're not kept.

00:14:44.640 Once they're processed,

00:14:45.920 they're told, okay, watch your mailbox

00:14:47.560 because you'll have your hearing in 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10 years.

00:14:51.520 It was an incredible story in Montreal,

00:14:53.180 someone getting a refugee board hearing for January 1st,

00:14:58.400 about 10 years from now.

00:14:59.460 Of course, there are no hearings on January 1st,

00:15:02.080 so that day will come and go.

00:15:03.840 Incredible.

00:15:04.800 Now tell me about the different kinds of people you saw.

00:15:10.060 Was it police?

00:15:11.400 Was it border agents?

00:15:12.480 Was it RCMP?

00:15:13.260 What officials are not watching the border,

00:15:16.760 or rather watching and doing nothing?

00:15:19.920 So I saw four different types of people.

00:15:24.300 I saw RCMP, of course.

00:15:25.960 They were standing there very interested in me.

00:15:28.420 They were asking me a lot of questions.

00:15:29.640 Who do you work for?

00:15:30.580 What company?

00:15:31.720 Why are you here?

00:15:32.380 What's your license plate?

00:15:33.820 I'm sure they asked me more questions

00:15:35.420 than they asked the refugees.

00:15:36.580 The other type of person I saw was a commissioner,

00:15:41.220 someone similar to airport security,

00:15:43.780 who was the bus driver,

00:15:45.100 basically the chauffeur who brought the individuals,

00:15:49.340 the illegal border crossers to the secondary facility,

00:15:52.520 who I had quite the conversation with.

00:15:54.900 We'll go back to that in a second.

00:15:56.920 The third type of person, of course,

00:15:58.680 was the illegals who crossed the border.

00:16:01.060 They were wearing very nice shoes.

00:16:04.200 You can see here in this picture on my tweet.

00:16:07.880 They were wearing Nikes.

00:16:09.540 I can't remember the exact model,

00:16:11.100 but they're not cheap.

00:16:12.440 They're wearing Under Armour.

00:16:14.060 They have a very sleek backpack on.

00:16:16.660 They're not refugees in the sense of the word.

00:16:19.800 They're better off than most Canadians are 1.00

00:16:22.180 who live on reserves, that's for sure.

00:16:24.820 And then the fourth type of person

00:16:25.900 was the legal Canadian citizen

00:16:28.300 who just happens to own property on Roxanne Road,

00:16:31.540 the closest property to the border.

00:16:35.780 I spoke with her as I was leaving.

00:16:37.740 She was arriving home

00:16:38.780 and she was very disappointed.

00:16:41.400 She was very sad.

00:16:42.820 She told me that she didn't want to speak on camera.

00:16:45.200 I might have an audio recording of her though

00:16:48.740 because I think it was just recording in my car

00:16:50.660 while I was talking to RCMP agents.

00:16:52.980 And she was just very tired.

00:16:54.460 She said that the property that she owned

00:16:56.300 was very quiet many years ago

00:16:58.660 and now it's busy with RCMP traffic

00:17:00.760 and this bus that drives up and down the road

00:17:03.240 about 20 times a day.

00:17:05.080 She's very upset.

00:17:06.340 She's upset that journalists keep knocking on her door

00:17:08.600 because obviously it's a sensitive area.

00:17:11.660 She just wanted this retirement property 0.78

00:17:13.400 and now it's very, very busy.

00:17:15.120 So those are the four type of people I spoke with.

00:17:17.340 And we might want to cut to this clip.

00:17:19.680 I'm sure you'll be interested to hear

00:17:21.040 what this commissioner bus driver had to say.

00:17:24.120 Listen to this.

00:17:24.720 Yeah, it's hard to say when they come in.

00:17:27.160 It depends on the time the planes come in, you know.

00:17:30.040 Planes?

00:17:30.760 What do you mean planes?

00:17:32.400 Because they come in at the Plattsburgh, at the airport.

00:17:35.880 They fly to the closest airport to then?

00:17:38.900 Yeah, Plattsburgh is the closest airport to the border, so.

00:17:42.560 Wow.

00:17:43.300 And they get off there and they take the cab over here.

00:17:47.600 That's interesting.

00:17:50.080 I wouldn't have thought that they had the money

00:17:52.700 to buy a plane ticket.

00:17:54.040 You'd be surprised.

00:17:58.580 Some of them spend their money on the other side

00:18:03.700 before crossing over

00:18:04.640 because they know when they cross over

00:18:06.440 they're going to end up with a check in their hands, you know.

00:18:08.960 Wow.

00:18:10.940 Yeah, well, we know from access to information requests

00:18:13.840 that the average migrant group

00:18:17.860 or average migrant that comes across the border

00:18:19.480 gets $50,000 in their first year.

00:18:23.640 In fact, we have a website,

00:18:25.080 50000.ca,

00:18:27.840 if you're curious to see the proof of that claim.

00:18:30.600 It's just astounding.

00:18:32.140 It's such a large number.

00:18:33.140 Remember you mentioned that we treat these fake, bogus refugees 1.00

00:18:36.680 better than we do any Canadian on reserve. 0.76

00:18:38.880 That's obvious.

00:18:40.040 But I would say we treat them better

00:18:41.400 than any Canadian officer,

00:18:43.340 any Canadian citizen who's down on his luck.

00:18:47.740 You know, I was in downtown Toronto the other day

00:18:50.700 and I walked by an enormous urban refugee camp,

00:18:54.580 this big heated tent that's for refugees

00:18:57.280 while homeless people, Canadians, are on the street.

00:19:00.720 It's really an inverted morality.

00:19:03.120 Let me ask you an obvious question.

00:19:05.220 Why has this issue dropped off the radar screen

00:19:07.860 as we're now, what, 75 days away from the federal election?

00:19:12.060 Is anyone even talking about it?

00:19:13.400 Are the conservatives talking about it federally

00:19:14.980 or have they sort of hushed on this one?

00:19:19.140 Of course, conservatives,

00:19:20.720 nobody really wants to talk about this

00:19:22.720 because if the conservatives talk about it,

00:19:24.940 they know that if the conservatives bring this into the debate,

00:19:28.280 they know that Maxime Bernier will chime in

00:19:30.640 with what Canadians really want to hear,

00:19:33.200 which is shut it down.

00:19:35.820 Stop this from happening.

00:19:38.080 And there just doesn't seem to be that kind of interest

00:19:40.340 from the conservative party,

00:19:41.180 at least from what I've seen.

00:19:42.140 I'd like to be proved wrong.

00:19:43.940 Now, I had a conversation.

00:19:45.580 It was a shouting conversation across the border.

00:19:48.780 There are some Americans from a university,

00:19:50.880 from New York State University,

00:19:51.840 who were doing research on that side of the border,

00:19:55.260 kind of documenting what was happening.

00:19:56.540 And I had a conversation with them,

00:19:58.220 and they were also wondering, same thing.

00:20:01.220 Why isn't the media covering this when,

00:20:03.920 and I don't know the exact numbers,

00:20:06.120 but I believe in 2018,

00:20:07.540 there was more illegals crossing the border

00:20:09.840 than there had been in any other previous year.

00:20:12.580 This problem is only getting worse and worse and worse.

00:20:15.100 It's an unmitigated crisis is what it is.

00:20:17.560 It seems that the media is more concerned

00:20:20.880 with talking about concentration camps

00:20:23.340 on the southern end of the United States,

00:20:25.580 on the southern United States border.

00:20:28.340 Concentration camps, of course, in quotations,

00:20:30.220 that's not what they are at all,

00:20:31.520 but that's what CBC and CTV and Global News

00:20:33.760 want to talk about,

00:20:34.960 because that fits their narrative a lot better.

00:20:37.740 What doesn't fit their narrative

00:20:38.760 is showing these very wealthy,

00:20:42.060 non-American, non-Canadian people

00:20:45.020 who are illegally crossing the border

00:20:46.460 with their Air Jordans and their flights.

00:20:50.680 They didn't just appear on this border,

00:20:53.400 they flew to it.

00:20:54.800 They're not poor people,

00:20:56.700 but they are certainly taking Canadians

00:20:59.880 for everything that they're worth.

00:21:02.780 Of course, even if they were poor,

00:21:04.040 that's not the definition of a refugee.

00:21:06.040 A refugee is someone who is in imminent danger 1.00

00:21:09.540 based on an inherent characteristic,

00:21:12.040 their race, religion, or whatnot,

00:21:13.400 simply being from Africa

00:21:15.460 and wanting free welfare

00:21:17.040 does not make you a refugee,

00:21:19.060 even under the strict United Nations definition.

00:21:21.060 And of course, under the safe third-party agreement,

00:21:23.740 no one in America can ever be a refugee in Canada,

00:21:27.740 and vice versa.

00:21:28.480 The whole thing's a scam.

00:21:29.420 Well, I'm glad you're down there, Kian. 1.00

00:21:30.600 We'll have to do more work

00:21:31.480 at that Roxham Road border in the weeks ahead,

00:21:34.100 and thanks for sharing your footage with us today.

00:21:37.680 No problem.

00:21:38.560 Thanks for having me.

00:21:39.260 What a pleasure.

00:21:39.920 So there you have it, Kian Bexty,

00:21:41.880 our intrepid reporter,

00:21:44.000 reporting to us from Montreal

00:21:45.340 after having visited the Roxham Road

00:21:48.300 illegal border crossing.

00:21:50.080 Stay with us.

00:21:50.640 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:21:51.200 Hello, my friends.

00:22:03.200 What do you think about today's show?

00:22:04.420 Look, not everyone who watches The Rebel

00:22:05.980 supports Bernier politically.

00:22:07.600 I think most rebels support him ideologically.

00:22:10.440 They're just worried he's going to split the vote on the right.

00:22:12.900 I've always said that he should have stayed

00:22:15.240 within the Conservative Party.

00:22:16.460 I believe that.

00:22:17.180 I've said it to him directly,

00:22:18.960 and I've said it publicly.

00:22:19.960 But now that he's out of the party,

00:22:21.900 I think he does have a role

00:22:23.060 to push Andrew Scheer to the right,

00:22:25.420 to say things to ensure that Conservatives

00:22:27.860 actually are Conservative.

00:22:29.180 And he's doing that on issues from free speech

00:22:31.000 to radical Islam to immigration,

00:22:34.620 issues that I think Canadians care about,

00:22:36.620 but that the Liberals and the official Conservatives

00:22:39.420 don't really want to talk about.

00:22:41.820 And my point is,

00:22:43.160 I think we ought to be able to talk about them

00:22:45.200 in an election of all places,

00:22:47.120 and to shut those voices out.

00:22:50.220 I think that's just going to cause more anger and dissent.

00:22:53.260 And by the way,

00:22:54.440 Conservatives are supposed to be for free speech.

00:22:56.340 All right, that's the show for today.

00:22:57.500 Let me know what you think.

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Rebel News Podcast - August 16, 2019

Trudeau had the government take over the political leaders' debates. And surprise — he decided to kick out Maxime Bernier

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