Rebel News Podcast - Trudeau loves to apologize — except for his own mistakes (Guest host： David Menzies)

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00:01:33.100 Tonight, Justin Trudeau loves to apologize, but why is it never for his own actions?

00:01:40.080 We'll show you how Trudeau's tears look like they belong to a crocodile.

00:01:44.860 It's March 13th. I'm David Menzies, and this is The Ezra Levent Show.

00:01:49.140 Why should others go to jail when you're the biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:54.960 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:59.020 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:02:04.900 When it comes to Justin Trudeau and his immoral and unethical and perhaps even illegal conduct

00:02:16.560 pertaining to the way he incessantly pressured ex-Attorney General Jody Wilson-Raybould,

00:02:22.400 well, you know, I think Elton John really nailed it way back in 1976 when he recorded this little ditty.

00:02:29.300 Yeah, for Justin Trudeau, sorry really does seem to be the hardest word, doesn't it?

00:02:41.620 In fact, this two-syllable word seems to be missing from his vocabulary.

00:02:46.320 Actually, that's not completely true.

00:02:49.140 To clarify, I'm not saying Trudeau is completely incapable of saying sorry.

00:02:54.100 In fact, back in 2017, or in other words, barely two years into his mandate as Prime Minister,

00:03:00.600 it seemed that not a month went by without Justin Trudeau offering up an apology to someone or some group.

00:03:09.420 At the time, I dubbed this initiative the Justin Trudeau Apologypalooza Tour,

00:03:14.680 in which the PM crisscrossed Canada endlessly saying sorry, sorry, sorry,

00:03:20.980 and producing enough tears to fill a Mr. Turtle swimming pool.

00:03:25.420 Here's a brief excerpt.

00:03:26.680 On apologizing to the aboriginals of Newfoundland and Labrador for the residential school system. 1.00

00:03:31.920 We are sorry.

00:03:33.680 On being reunited with a Syrian refugee one year later.

00:03:41.940 So my memories at that moment went back to Syria before war.

00:03:48.000 Our life, our happiness there.

00:03:50.780 On apologizing to lesbians, gays, bisexuals, transsexuals, and queers for discriminatory policies. 0.53

00:03:57.820 Thank you.

00:04:27.820 Yet, check out the timeline.

00:04:35.240 The Chilcotin War was fought in 1864.

00:04:40.120 That was a full three years before Canada came into being.

00:04:43.880 As for British Columbia, B.C. didn't join Confederation until 1871.

00:04:49.240 So if these hangings did indeed constitute a war crime,

00:04:53.980 it was not something the government of Canada was complicit in

00:04:56.980 because as previously noted, there was no such thing as the Dominion of Canada

00:05:01.840 and British Columbia, as the name would imply, was still under British colonial rule.

00:05:07.920 Meaning that if anyone should be saying sorry for this incident right now,

00:05:12.040 it's either Theresa May or Queen Elizabeth.

00:05:14.540 And good luck making that happen.

00:05:16.580 In any event, I'm sure you've noticed something of a theme here when it comes to a Trudeopian apology. 0.75

00:05:24.600 Namely, every time he stages a grandiose mea culpa, complete with waterworks,

00:05:31.140 he is apologizing for the sins of other people that were carried out a long time ago in a Dominion far, far away.

00:05:39.340 Justin's apologies are never for something Justin Trudeau himself has done in the here and now.

00:05:45.880 The most recent example being his thuggish conduct with Miss Wilson-Raybould.

00:05:51.660 And lest we forget, when the story surfaced about an incident in the year 2000

00:05:56.420 in which Justin groped a young female reporter at a B.C. music festival,

00:06:01.140 well, our first feminist prime minister couldn't be bothered to apologize for that indecency either. 1.00

00:06:08.640 Indeed, Chatelaine magazine last year asked the PM if he had any regrets

00:06:12.440 about how he handled his response to the groping,

00:06:16.400 given that Trudeau's initial statement was,

00:06:18.880 I am confident that I did not act inappropriately.

00:06:22.680 Well, here's what he had to say to Chatelaine by way of clarification.

00:06:27.820 And yes, I say the word clarification with tongue firmly planted in cheek,

00:06:32.940 given that rarely have I come across such a heaping helping, a bizarre baffle gab.

00:06:38.980 Anyway, here's Justin's non-answer, quote,

00:06:42.560 Well, listen, regrets?

00:06:44.360 No, we have to recognize that we are all in an evolving context.

00:06:49.480 We are figuring out how to deal with these things in new and better ways

00:06:53.300 than we were ever able to in the past.

00:06:55.700 I am very aware that I am part of a larger conversation that really isn't easy.

00:07:01.880 From the very beginning, in dealing with this,

00:07:04.740 I wanted to make sure that I left room in the conversation

00:07:07.600 to not shut down or diminish what the woman in this situation had experienced

00:07:12.740 and recognize that people can experience the same interaction very differently and legitimately.

00:07:19.480 I'm obviously thinking very deeply about how we continue to model both support and respect

00:07:27.060 for people who come forward and share their stories

00:07:30.640 while being thoughtful about how we move forward as individuals and lessons learned, end quote.

00:07:37.980 Huh.

00:07:38.720 Let me put that statement into our universal translation machine and see what it means in English.

00:07:45.240 Captain, we can't do it.

00:08:00.140 If we keep this speed, we'll blow up any minute now.

00:08:03.040 Fascinating.

00:08:03.560 Yet, the gist of what I think Justin was trying to say was this.

00:08:08.060 First, he doesn't regret his handsy behavior.

00:08:11.540 And secondly, in retrospect, this incident makes for a learning opportunity.

00:08:16.180 Oh, no, no, no.

00:08:17.040 Not for Justin, mind you, but rather for all of us.

00:08:21.020 Forget about an apology.

00:08:23.060 That's chutzpah to the nth degree.

00:08:25.440 But what does it say about the character of this man that he is so adroit at apologizing

00:08:32.720 for the actions of others, yet incapable of taking responsibility for his own egregious actions?

00:08:39.880 Look, I'm no psychiatrist, folks, but I think this speaks to ego and privilege and entitlement.

00:08:48.060 Justin Trudeau is a trust fund baby born with the proverbial silver spoon wedged firmly in his mouth.

00:08:53.840 You know, I wonder if Pierre and Margaret ever compelled their little super boy to utter a single sincere apology

00:09:00.620 whilst little Justin was growing up.

00:09:03.620 But there is some perverse irony at play here.

00:09:07.220 If Justin's self-entitlement is indeed preventing him from making a personal apology,

00:09:12.720 then this is ultimately a self-defeating strategy.

00:09:16.380 That's because the public is indeed very forgiving.

00:09:19.440 But the caveat is that you have to be honest and sincere rather than evasive.

00:09:26.060 As the old post-Watergate chestnut goes, it's not the crime, it's the cover-up.

00:09:32.520 Indeed, I don't know why so many entities, be they political parties or manufacturing companies,

00:09:38.740 have forgotten the lessons learned from the tainted Tylenol saga of 1982.

00:09:43.260 That's when some maniac in the Chicago area tainted Tylenol tablets with cyanide,

00:09:49.440 resulting in the deaths of seven people.

00:09:51.980 Now, at the time, many analysts wrote off Tylenol as a dead brand given the toxic publicity.

00:09:57.780 Yet the parent company of Tylenol, Johnson & Johnson,

00:10:00.980 they rewrote the book on damage control and crisis management by being proactive.

00:10:05.960 At enormous cost, the company undertook a global recall of its Tylenol tablets,

00:10:13.240 even though the problem was only confined to the Chicago area.

00:10:16.940 Eventually, tamper-proof packaging was developed, something that we now take for granted.

00:10:21.980 But the company also apologized for the deaths, even though it was in no way responsible.

00:10:27.420 The public came to look upon Johnson & Johnson as a victim too.

00:10:31.160 The word Tylenol could have become synonymous with poison,

00:10:35.920 but instead, most people probably don't know that this tragedy ever happened.

00:10:40.760 In fact, Tylenol's market share is greater today than it was in 1982.

00:10:47.240 Yet, clearly, Justin Trudeau is no Johnson & Johnson.

00:10:51.540 In fact, he and his freelance pit bulls, such as Sheila Copps,

00:10:55.120 have gone on the offensive to absolve the government of any responsibility

00:10:59.320 pertaining to LAV scam, further placing the blame on Jody Wilson-Raybould,

00:11:05.160 even though polls indicate that most Canadians believe that Ms. Wilson-Raybould acted with integrity.

00:11:12.240 As for today, as the LAV scam dumpster fire morphs into something that resembles the Hagersville Tire Fire,

00:11:20.460 where, pray tell, is our fearless leader?

00:11:23.780 Well, he's taken some more personal days off, you see.

00:11:26.900 No, really? Oh, sure, he's got cabinet ministers touring the country, creating distractions,

00:11:32.740 or, I mean, making announcements from everything pertaining to climate change to women's liberation.

00:11:40.140 But Trudeau himself is apparently on a Florida beach working on his tan.

00:11:45.420 Indeed, how are Justin loves taking personal days off?

00:11:48.820 I mean, last June alone, he took off seven personal days.

00:11:52.860 That prompted someone to actually launch a website entitled,

00:11:56.660 IsJustinTrudeauOnVacation.ca?

00:12:00.240 And maybe this knee-jerk reaction of running away speaks to Justin's immaturity and entitlement.

00:12:07.540 A leader, a true leader, deals with a crisis head-on.

00:12:11.640 He does not employ an ostrich strategy of burying his hand in the sand.

00:12:16.820 Hey, maybe Justin thinks that when he returns to Ottawa for March break,

00:12:21.680 all the trouble swirling around the SNC-Lavalin affair will be gone and forgotten.

00:12:27.480 If that's the case, then not only is Justin Trudeau incapable of personally apologizing,

00:12:33.740 but he's downright delusional as well.

00:12:36.600 That today is not just a big day for us as a delegation,

00:12:54.920 us as a party, us as a movement,

00:12:58.000 but this is a big day for activists all over the country

00:13:02.220 and for frontline communities all over the country.

00:13:05.800 Climate change, climate change and our environmental challenges

00:13:10.100 are one of the biggest existential threats to our way of life.

00:13:17.260 Oh, but of course, that was Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 0.51

00:13:21.140 who is the poster child currently pushing the Democrats'

00:13:25.320 grandiose climate change policy known as the Green New Deal.

00:13:29.620 It aims to tackle carbon emissions and move the United States

00:13:33.380 to green energy schemes generated by wind and solar power.

00:13:38.420 The plan also calls for every existing building in the USA

00:13:42.380 to be retrofitted in order to achieve better energy efficiency.

00:13:48.100 So what's not to love?

00:13:49.820 Well, how about the fact that the goals proposed by the Green New Deal

00:13:53.260 are likely unattainable?

00:13:54.780 Oh, and then there's the off-the-lot sticker price of this scheme,

00:13:59.280 which will be in the trillions of dollars.

00:14:02.500 Yes, trillions with a T.

00:14:05.060 And joining me now on a boondoggle that will hopefully never get off the ground

00:14:09.400 is Mark Morano of ClimateDepot.com.

00:14:13.100 Welcome to the Ezra Levent Show, Mark.

00:14:16.040 Thank you, David. Happy to be here today.

00:14:17.720 Always a pleasure.

00:14:18.460 Okay, so Ms. Ocasio-Cortez likens the Green New Deal 0.75

00:14:22.920 to the U.S. space program of 50 years ago,

00:14:25.520 that this is somehow an example of American exceptionalism.

00:14:29.640 I'm going to wager you have a differing viewpoint, Mark.

00:14:32.720 So what do you think is the single biggest fatal flaw of this crazy scheme?

00:14:39.520 Well, first of all, she said we need global warming

00:14:42.640 as a threat that affects our way of life.

00:14:44.860 Well, the greatest existential threat to our way of life

00:14:48.260 would be the Green New Deal if it passed.

00:14:51.620 And I think the biggest problem with the Green New Deal 0.99

00:14:54.840 is even if we face the climate catastrophe that the left claims we do,

00:15:00.100 and you believe Al Gore, you believe everything the United Nations has said,

00:15:03.780 using their own science and their own models.

00:15:08.100 Climatologists actually ran the numbers through the EPA models,

00:15:11.220 which are based on U.N. climate scenarios.

00:15:13.560 And in 100 years, even if the Green New Deal were fully implemented, 0.68

00:15:18.180 you wouldn't be able to tell the temperature difference.

00:15:20.140 In other words, if we face the climate catastrophe,

00:15:22.760 the Green New Deal would do squat. 0.77

00:15:24.740 So right off the bat, it fails a simple cost-benefit analysis.

00:15:28.960 That's number one.

00:15:29.700 Number two, it's plagiarism.

00:15:31.240 It's the same series of solutions that they proposed beginning in the 1960s,

00:15:36.500 the radical environmental movement,

00:15:38.040 with overpopulation fairs, John Holdren.

00:15:40.240 And those solutions are wealth redistribution, sovereignty limiting treaties,

00:15:45.120 and central planning, essentially.

00:15:47.800 And I go through my book in The Politically Incorrect Guide to Climate Change

00:15:50.480 and show the same solutions, but they were proposed for different environmental scares.

00:15:55.860 So all global warming is is the latest environmental scare

00:15:58.760 that they're doing the latest solutions are.

00:16:01.560 And again, nothing to do with climate.

00:16:03.220 This is guaranteed education, guaranteed incomes,

00:16:07.460 all sorts of just social engineering stuff they've thrown in the mix.

00:16:12.780 And it's one of the greatest boondoggles.

00:16:15.820 But take it seriously, because every Democratic candidate who goes up against Donald Trump

00:16:19.880 is going to embrace the Green New Deal.

00:16:22.080 And if Donald Trump is defeated, the Green New Deal will likely become law in America.

00:16:26.960 Well, that is truly scary.

00:16:29.500 And Mark, I should point out to our viewers,

00:16:31.380 it's not just you as the lone voice in the wilderness debunking the goals

00:16:36.380 or the anticipated goals of the Green New Deal.

00:16:39.300 I came across a quote from Dr. John Christie,

00:16:42.800 who heads up the Huntsville Department of Atmospheric Studies.

00:16:46.940 And much like you said,

00:16:48.300 if the United States disappeared from the planet right now,

00:16:52.320 the effect of global temperatures would only be about a tenth of a degree by 2100.

00:17:00.340 So, I mean, it seems like such an enormous investment,

00:17:04.920 such a massive undertaking for such little results.

00:17:08.700 And I'm just wondering, I think you might have alluded to it in your answer just now,

00:17:12.760 but what is the unspoken strategy of this Green New Deal,

00:17:17.300 given that the science simply isn't there to make the case?

00:17:20.940 Oh, the unspoken strategy is very simple.

00:17:24.480 They want these same agenda items,

00:17:27.840 and they've wanted them since, you know, the 1960s,

00:17:30.660 particularly the modern Democratic Party.

00:17:32.200 They tried it with George McGovern.

00:17:33.720 They lost 49 states in 1972, the guaranteed income, the socialist plan.

00:17:39.540 They tried again hard with Walter Mondale in 1984,

00:17:42.800 and I can't remember, I think that was a 49-state defeat as well

00:17:45.400 against Ronald Reagan by the most liberal candidate.

00:17:47.720 And then they've been proposing this stuff.

00:17:51.180 I mean, this is all a recycle from UN.

00:17:52.800 So the actual goal here is to put a global warming face on socialism.

00:17:58.900 In other words, if you are so afraid that you're going to lose your home,

00:18:02.820 your house, that you're going to be underwater,

00:18:04.980 that a hurricane is going to hit you,

00:18:06.240 that your house is going to be destroyed by tornadoes,

00:18:08.520 you may be willing to jump at a Green New Deal

00:18:10.920 without looking at the merits or what's behind it or the economics,

00:18:13.920 because you want to save yourself from global warming.

00:18:16.740 And the whole premise of the Green New Deal is we don't have time to debate.

00:18:20.200 We only have 11 years, don't you know, for the United Nations.

00:18:23.840 So we're all dead.

00:18:25.200 And so that's why we must do this now.

00:18:26.940 Forget the details.

00:18:27.800 Let's just pass the Green New Deal. 0.94

00:18:29.680 That's the unstated assumption.

00:18:31.440 And, you know, Mark, it's very odd when they point to examples in the world

00:18:35.360 to bolster the goals of the Green New Deal or the proposed goals.

00:18:41.840 One country that always gets mentioned is Germany.

00:18:44.160 Look at all their investment in solar, in wind power.

00:18:48.800 But what they don't tell you is that compared to neighboring France,

00:18:52.100 which is heavily reliant on nuclear power,

00:18:55.080 Germans pay about double for their electricity than France does.

00:19:00.780 So that's not much of a deal in my book.

00:19:03.400 No, it's not.

00:19:05.280 And you have the same problem in the U.K. where you have senior citizens. 1.00

00:19:08.600 They look at the death patterns.

00:19:10.040 And because of rising energy costs from the so-called their own version,

00:19:13.340 the European Green New Deal, essentially,

00:19:15.080 with all these mandates and restrictions on carbon-based energy

00:19:18.760 and mandates on renewables, so to speak,

00:19:22.120 you have a higher percentage of seniors dying in the winter.

00:19:25.300 And then you mentioned France.

00:19:26.620 Well, interestingly enough, France had a good system

00:19:29.220 until President Macron came in,

00:19:31.440 and completely embraced the United Nations Paris Climate Treaty.

00:19:35.140 And then they started raising energy costs.

00:19:37.300 Then you had the yellow vest protesters come out.

00:19:40.280 And Macron now, by the way, didn't learn a thing.

00:19:42.480 He just flew to a climate conference in Africa

00:19:45.440 to talk about essentially doubling down on climate goals and everything else.

00:19:49.940 But Europe is our future.

00:19:52.520 More stagnant economic growth, much higher energy costs,

00:19:57.140 much more central planning.

00:19:58.760 And that's always been, when we had the health care debate with President Obama,

00:20:01.740 we were always looking toward Europe.

00:20:03.220 We always want to follow Europe.

00:20:04.840 We're the only Neanderthals out there.

00:20:07.240 It's actually using North Korea and the U.S. 0.83

00:20:09.540 Are there two Neanderthals that aren't signed on to the U.N.-Paris agreement?

00:20:13.140 We need the Green New Deal.

00:20:14.380 But this is what they do.

00:20:16.960 And essentially, the Green New Deal has nothing to do with climate.

00:20:20.580 It's not green.

00:20:21.680 It's not new.

00:20:22.620 And it's not any kind of deal.

00:20:24.200 It's a raw deal.

00:20:25.520 Because, A, even, again, and it's very important to mention this,

00:20:28.500 it's not that it would affect temperatures a tenth of a degree or not notice.

00:20:31.820 That's only if you accept their science.

00:20:33.720 And there's no reason to ever accept their science.

00:20:36.060 We don't know what the temperature is going to be 100 years from now.

00:20:38.360 We have solar cycles.

00:20:39.340 You have hundreds of factors.

00:20:40.360 But if you buy the CO2 control knob theory, there's still no effect.

00:20:44.980 And that's an important point and distinction to make.

00:20:47.800 And that's why this whole thing is a fraud from beginning to end.

00:20:50.060 And you alluded to the cost.

00:20:51.160 One estimate was $94 trillion.

00:20:53.340 But they don't care about the cost because this is about changing lifestyles.

00:20:58.440 And, you know, from everything from what we eat to how we eat to how we travel.

00:21:03.720 Interestingly enough, she wants to have high-speed train travel to get rid of airline travel. 1.00

00:21:09.300 Well, just this week in Germany, of all places, their climate advisor proposed banning internal flights in Germany,

00:21:16.400 making people only use the train because the climate can't handle it.

00:21:20.060 And they're going to not only that, but they want to limit to, like, two flights a year as a phase-in.

00:21:24.220 So this is our future.

00:21:25.940 It's going to have masterminds, so to speak, bureaucrats controlling everything that they deem is correct for the planet. 0.96

00:21:33.060 And we are going to be their little guinea pigs, controlled our thermostats, our appliances, our train travel, our car travel, 0.52

00:21:41.000 proposing CO2 budgets for every man, woman, and child on the planet.

00:21:45.040 This is what they've been proposing for decades.

00:21:46.980 That's why I laugh when people say, oh, it's the Green New Deal. 0.93

00:21:50.120 No, this is the red, if you know what I'm saying, old deal that's been around for decades that they've been promoting.

00:21:57.380 And this is probably the best chance they've ever had to actually institute it because the next president will embrace it.

00:22:03.720 The next Democrat nominee will embrace it.

00:22:05.240 And if they're elected and beat Donald Trump, this will become law.

00:22:08.940 That's terrifying.

00:22:09.860 You know, the exclamation point on what you just said, too, Mark, is the fact that the proviso for them wanting us to embrace a new downgraded lifestyle is do as I say, not as I do.

00:22:20.960 I mean, the last time I checked, Al Gore had a carbon footprint multiple, multiple times that of the average American. 0.78

00:22:28.460 So it's very hypocritical.

00:22:30.020 But, you know, you mentioned the U.K., and there's another interesting element about one component of the Green New Deal, 0.68

00:22:36.520 and that was the $1.4 trillion plan.

00:22:40.480 I almost feel like Dr. Evil, I should say, $1.4 trillion and put my little pinky to my lip like Dr. Evil.

00:22:46.140 Just for retrofitting residential buildings alone in the U.S.

00:22:52.460 And some critics have pointed out the safety issue.

00:22:56.520 And you mentioned the U.K., of course, in 2017, the tragic Grenville Tower fire that caused dozens of fatalities.

00:23:07.200 Evidently, this building was retrofitted with energy-saving cladding, and it went up like a Roman candle.

00:23:15.340 Because of that, again, another factor that these Democrats are not telling you about in terms of the multiple downsides of this Green New Deal.

00:23:27.780 Yes.

00:23:28.440 And, in fact, all of these mayonnaise, I call it one big bowl of crazy.

00:23:33.680 You can't even go through and list all these things.

00:23:36.480 Talking about retrofitting buildings.

00:23:38.440 First of all, you know, there's so-called green buildings.

00:23:41.040 Well, there's actually a point in your homes where you can make them too energy-efficient, if you understand what I'm saying.

00:23:45.800 In other words, you want a house to breathe.

00:23:48.100 You want air to recycle.

00:23:49.720 You don't want windows that allow no air passage through.

00:23:53.500 But the idea of destroying current buildings and rebuilding them green is not environmentally friendly in any way, shape, or form.

00:24:00.160 Imagine all the fossil fuel transportation just to clear out an old building.

00:24:03.940 Imagine the fossil fuels necessary to do it.

00:24:05.820 So, the idea that they want to get rid of fossil fuels but then rely heavily.

00:24:10.340 And you mentioned the hypocrisy, David.

00:24:12.460 Not only did Acacia Cortez show up in an SUV at some conference this past week.

00:24:19.040 We have the photographic evidence on my website, Climate Depot.

00:24:21.840 But Bernie Sanders was called out by former Hillary staffers for hundreds of thousands of dollars in demanding private airplane travel in order to campaign for her in the 2016 election.

00:24:34.660 So, Bernie Sanders, the father, if you will, of the Green New Deal and AOC is a big supporter of him.

00:24:41.320 He wants to keep fossil fuels in the ground, but yet he can't stop using them up in the air.

00:24:46.600 Did Bernie drive to the airport in his Ferrari?

00:24:49.920 Last time I looked, I haven't noticed the prancing horse company making any hybrids or electrical cars.

00:24:57.520 Oh, Mark, you know, you've painted a very chilling picture of what could happen.

00:25:03.200 You know, the balls that would be set in motion if there is indeed regime change in your country.

00:25:08.500 Let's hope that this that that doesn't happen and that this remains pie in the sky, because this is unaffordable.

00:25:16.100 And even if it goes through, as you said, it does virtually 0.0 in terms of moving the dial when it comes to global climate change.

00:25:25.640 Correct?

00:25:27.340 Yes.

00:25:27.640 And that's again, if you accept their science, you know, it still doesn't do anything.

00:25:31.780 And so that's one of the that's that's the biggest thing.

00:25:34.740 But going forward here, the Green New Deal and my advice to them, if I were advising them, the less specific they are, the better, because the Green New Deal is going to just be to it's in the eye of the beholder. 0.64

00:25:47.300 The Green New Deal ultimately to the to the masses and the way they look at people is the masses is just this will save us from global warming.

00:25:54.600 Don't ask questions.

00:25:55.620 We need to pass this.

00:25:56.660 We need to embrace this.

00:25:58.120 And unfortunately, the millennial generation will accept that.

00:26:01.240 And that's what good news is.

00:26:02.440 They usually don't vote that high a rate.

00:26:04.060 So that's a good news.

00:26:05.920 Well, Mark, we got to wrap it here.

00:26:07.400 I wish there was a big red button in front of me, like one of the like that famous TV show where I could just pound it and say no deal to the Green New Deal. 0.89

00:26:16.500 So, my friend, thank you so much for weighing in on this important subject.

00:26:21.120 No problem.

00:26:21.600 Thank you, David.

00:26:22.220 You got it.

00:26:22.800 And that was Mark Moreno of ClimateDepot.com.

00:26:26.360 Keep it here, folks.

00:26:27.140 More of The Ezra Levent Show to come right after this.

00:26:31.240 Well, thank you ever so much for watching.

00:26:43.980 Tomorrow, Sheila Gunn-Reed takes control of the show because Ezra Levent is over in the UK covering the latest Tommy Robinson trial.

00:26:53.420 And speaking of which, here's what happened in the UK regarding Tommy today.

00:26:58.340 For the Rebel.media, I'm Ezra Levent.

00:27:00.880 I am in Peterborough.

00:27:02.320 We're not quite at the county court.

00:27:03.860 We stepped in off the street because it was so windy.

00:27:06.540 I've been inside the courtroom live tweeting the case of Tommy Robinson versus the Cambridgeshire police.

00:27:12.660 He's suing them for harassment about a spectacular incident that Tommy caught on his own cell phone a couple of years ago when he was out with his kids to watch a football game in Cambridgeshire.

00:27:23.380 And he was at a restaurant.

00:27:25.620 He'd been there all day with his kids.

00:27:26.960 He was watching the football game on TV.

00:27:28.600 The kids were playing.

00:27:29.600 And the police came in, ordered him to leave, threatened him with arrest if they didn't.

00:27:34.460 And even when he left, they frog-marched him to the railway station and videoed him down the way.

00:27:39.320 It's incredible.

00:27:40.240 And the only reason we know about it is because Tommy uploaded it to the Internet.

00:27:45.000 Well, we had various police witnesses today, including a police officer who followed them down the road to the railway station with a handicap. 0.98

00:27:54.280 Tommy made a big point about saying, where is that video footage?

00:27:57.940 It will prove everything I've said, including my own daughter, Tommy said, who ran off into the street and almost got hit by a vehicle.

00:28:06.620 Well, the officer who took the handycam photo had a very interesting testimony.

00:28:11.080 He said that he did not keep the footage.

00:28:13.660 He was asked about it.

00:28:14.880 He said that he didn't think it was newsworthy or noteworthy or was anything to think about at all.

00:28:21.440 So he deleted it.

00:28:22.700 And he didn't even know when he deleted it.

00:28:24.460 He suggested he may have deleted it the very next day, even though he said there are certain circumstances where such evidence has to be kept for a minimum of 28 days,

00:28:32.640 or even, he said, as long as 100 years.

00:28:35.340 That was interesting to me.

00:28:37.040 We heard a lot more about policing and how the football police are a specialized task force to go after what they call football hooligans,

00:28:45.520 basically fans who go from town to town following their favorite teams.

00:28:49.360 They get drunk and they fight against other fans.

00:28:51.780 But what we heard again and again is that the indicia by which they would arrest such a person, drunkenness, a known risk,

00:28:59.240 they call such people risk supporters, Tommy didn't meet those criteria.

00:29:03.640 Tommy was not drinking.

00:29:05.040 It was a family day.

00:29:06.260 Tommy was not labeled a risk supporter.

00:29:08.540 So there was some very interesting cross-examination by Tommy's lawyer asking the police officer,

00:29:14.200 why did you arrest Tommy if he didn't meet these standards?

00:29:18.600 It was very interesting.

00:29:19.460 There was a surprising development today, and it was that I myself became part of the conversation in court.

00:29:29.300 Not on purpose, I can assure you, but of course I came to Peterborough to live tweet this.

00:29:34.340 That's why I'm here.

00:29:35.020 I believe in justice.

00:29:36.340 I believe in Tommy's suit.

00:29:38.880 I believe in Tommy as a friend.

00:29:40.500 Viewers crowdfunded to have me here.

00:29:41.880 So I assume what I always do, tweet with my opinions.

00:29:45.820 I did it at the Old Bailey when Tommy had his hearings there.

00:29:49.740 I did it at the Royal Courts of Justice in front of no one less than the Lord Chief Justice of Great Britain and of England and Wales himself.

00:29:59.980 So, I mean, I've live tweeted many times from the UK, and I thought I was doing the same thing here.

00:30:05.760 But the judge specifically asked me not to tweet commentary, just to tweet exactly what was said.

00:30:17.900 I would use the word stenography.

00:30:19.800 She didn't use that word, but that's what I think journalism is without commentary.

00:30:24.060 It's just, okay, he said this, she said that.

00:30:25.840 And I'm doing a fair bit of that.

00:30:27.160 But the judge was kind of adamant about it, and I apologized.

00:30:30.940 I said, well, I'm sorry.

00:30:31.640 I don't want to get offside with you, Your Honor.

00:30:34.140 It's your judge.

00:30:35.160 You're the judge.

00:30:36.060 This is your court.

00:30:36.760 I don't want to do anything offside.

00:30:39.520 And I thought I corrected my florid language.

00:30:43.600 But then after the trial, the judge invited me back into the court.

00:30:48.400 I mean, actually, one of the lawyers did.

00:30:50.000 And the lawyers and the judge and the clerks were there.

00:30:52.680 And the judge had another conversation with me, and she made it clear.

00:30:55.840 No opinion, commentary at all about the goings-on in the case.

00:31:02.780 Not only not in the court, but not outside the court, like not even here in this room.

00:31:08.620 Not even after the trial is over, but before the judgment.

00:31:13.660 So the judge said no more commentary on the case, no more characterizations of the testimony until she herself gives her ruling.

00:31:26.340 Now, that may come quite quickly.

00:31:27.640 That may come at the end of the week.

00:31:29.440 But, and listen, this is not my fight to fight.

00:31:32.560 I'm used to a more robust press.

00:31:35.820 I'm used to journalists having the right to call it like they see it.

00:31:39.800 I mean, in Canada, we have the very famous journalist, Christy Blatchford, who has uproarious coverage of court cases, and they're very well read.

00:31:46.680 And I understand from some of the Tommies' own contempt of court cases, the worry about corrupting a jury.

00:31:54.460 But there's no jury in this trial.

00:31:57.000 The judge also referred to intimidating witnesses.

00:31:59.860 I had asked a question of some of the police officers when I saw them outside.

00:32:04.460 They didn't answer me, but that was apparently an intimidating, they felt intimidated by me.

00:32:10.180 So, I guess that's my way of saying that the judge said, stop doing what you're doing.

00:32:18.800 Stop providing opinion commentary, either in the court or outside the court, until the ruling is entered.

00:32:26.540 And so, I want to let you know this, so if you've seen my reporting over the next day and a half or two days, you'll understand why the flavor is out of it.

00:32:35.860 It's vanilla, not Tabasco.

00:32:37.280 So, I'll still continue to live tweet, but I won't give my thoughts on things, which I should tell you is very unlike me.

00:32:44.580 But it was made clear to me that if I persist in giving my commentaries, the judge would probably hold me in contempt.

00:32:52.620 I mean, she didn't say as much, but that was my understanding of it.

00:32:55.900 I should tell you that I have therefore decided to temporarily delete five tweets that I made.

00:33:04.480 And I talked to the judge about the ones I would delete.

00:33:07.860 Now, I have saved an image of them, and I may choose to put them up after the trial is done.

00:33:13.900 I thought one of them was a funny joke.

00:33:16.680 I understand her criticisms of the others, and it's not for me to agree or disagree.

00:33:22.020 It's not my court.

00:33:22.740 It's her court.

00:33:23.440 It's not my country.

00:33:24.300 It's her country.

00:33:24.940 I think I've learned a little bit more about the UK.

00:33:30.200 I've learned a little bit more about contempt of court law in the UK.

00:33:35.100 And I think there's a problem here in the UK.

00:33:37.760 I think that it is not quite as free as it should be.

00:33:41.900 And I think that citizens don't quite have the access to open justice that they should.

00:33:47.220 But I say this as a foreigner, a tourist here.

00:33:49.940 I have no real business in the UK.

00:33:52.420 I mean, we have a lot of UK supporters.

00:33:53.700 But it's not for me to lead the charge for free speech in terms of what you can live tweet from a British court.

00:34:02.340 I just don't think that's my fight.

00:34:04.140 I think that's the fight for Brits to do.

00:34:06.280 And I don't want to be the guinea pig test case.

00:34:09.560 I don't want to be held in contempt.

00:34:11.760 And I don't want to be thrown in jail.

00:34:14.240 I mean, obviously, that wouldn't happen in this case.

00:34:16.660 But it happened to Tommy.

00:34:17.920 And so that's my report on the day.

00:34:21.580 I don't think I gave you a particularly strong opinion on what I said in court.

00:34:26.180 At least I certainly tried not to.

00:34:28.040 I'm not even really giving you my opinion about what the judge said.

00:34:31.020 The judge said what she said.

00:34:32.780 And I said, let me know if there's anything in particular you want me to take down.

00:34:36.380 I suggested five particular tweets.

00:34:38.540 And I have since taken them down.

00:34:41.000 There are two videos that I previously recorded that I have now taken off of YouTube until the trial is over.

00:34:50.780 And I think I'll put them back when the verdict is up because I think they were useful commentary.

00:34:55.520 I just find it, frankly, a little sad to learn from this judge who surely knows where the line of free speech and where the line of deference is.

00:35:08.020 There is no jury here that could have their minds altered.

00:35:12.500 I, in my heart, don't believe I was intimidating to three burly policemen because I asked them a question.

00:35:19.280 But it's not for me to decide.

00:35:20.880 It's not my opinion.

00:35:22.840 It's a judge whose courtroom I was in.

00:35:26.340 I am not a citizen.

00:35:27.980 I am an interloper.

00:35:30.320 And surely I should defer to the local custom.

00:35:33.260 If I was in Iran, I would defer to the local custom.

00:35:36.720 If I was at the Vatican, I would defer to the local custom.

00:35:39.840 Those are strong cultures and customs.

00:35:42.080 Here I am in the U.K.

00:35:43.160 I seem to have been mistaken about free speech in the U.K.

00:35:46.920 And so I am corrected.

00:35:49.000 I'll have a lot more to say about matters once the judgment is rendered.

00:35:55.700 But until then, I should say that although my own interactions with the court really had nothing to do with Tommy's case,

00:36:03.800 they were probably the greatest eye-opener of my trip here.

00:36:07.740 And I have to say that my biggest feeling is one of sadness.

00:36:12.380 I was sitting next to another journalist for a local newspaper, pretty good guy, obviously doesn't share my politics.

00:36:21.260 And I just kept the same with him, and I don't want to characterize what he says.

00:36:24.420 But he says, yeah, here in the U.K., we just pretty much write it.

00:36:27.680 Well, listen, I know that there's some spectacular cases that some of the tabloids have strong opinions on.

00:36:32.940 But I just wish that the journalist who was sitting next to me was a little bit more revved up about the fact that you can't offer an opinion on a court case that's ongoing.

00:36:45.280 I suppose his reaction, or lack thereof, was what really made me sad.

00:36:50.220 And I'm quite certain, I haven't checked Twitter yet or other feedback, but I am quite certain that the uniform response from the mainstream media will be one of jubilation, that I have had my wings clipped or my tongue tied.

00:37:05.440 And I suppose I have, although when the judgment is out, I'll surely speak freely then.

00:37:13.680 But the fact that Brits would cheer the lack of free speech for Brits, the fact that journalists couldn't care.

00:37:22.240 In fact, there were journalists waiting for me after the court.

00:37:25.000 They had been tipped off that I was speaking too freely.

00:37:28.180 That's the saddest part of my trip, is that Fleet Street, which to me was synonymous with the bold newspapers, that the United Kingdom, the home of the Magna Carta, of John Milton's Areopagitica, of the free speech movement, really isn't anymore.

00:37:47.380 And I'm not even mad at the judge.

00:37:50.340 How could I be?

00:37:51.160 It's her fault.

00:37:51.820 More to the point.

00:37:52.480 I think she's probably accurately expressing the law.

00:37:59.460 There needs to be law reform in the UK.

00:38:02.800 I just don't know if anyone's up for it.

00:38:05.500 Let me close by saying to my friends in Canada and the United States, realize the unique freedoms you have, especially Americans with your First Amendment, and hold on to them.

00:38:16.440 In the UK, I don't think they have.

00:38:22.480 I think they have.

00:38:43.560 I think they have.

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