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Trudeau sends the Canadian military on a friendship mission to China — while Chinese military vets start a legion here. What’s going on？


Summary

Justin Trudeau sends the Canadian military on a friendship mission to China, while Chinese military veterans start a legion here in Canada. And a Chinese dissident is trying to sue the Prime Minister for defamation because he thinks Trudeau is too soft on China.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hello, Rebels. In today's podcast, there's two interesting parts, if I may say so.
00:00:03.860 The first is, I can't even believe this, Canada just sent 170 or so military personnel to
00:00:13.240 China to participate in some friendship games while they have two hostages of ours. I can't
00:00:19.360 even believe it. Great reporting by the Globe and Mail. I talked about that. And a Chinese
00:00:24.100 military veterans group operating here in Canada. Just crazy time. And we interviewed
00:00:29.120 Gary McHale, who's an interesting character, I'd say a perpetual dissident, who's trying
00:00:34.060 to sue the prime minister in court on Monday. Sounds impossible, doesn't it? Well, I'll
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00:01:27.800 Tonight, Justin Trudeau sends the Canadian military on a friendship mission to China,
00:01:33.900 China, while Chinese military vets start a legion here in Canada. What's going on?
00:01:39.500 It's November 1st, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:43.900 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:47.560 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:51.660 The only thing I have to say to the government, the why I'm publishing, is because it's my bloody
00:01:56.520 right to do so.
00:02:02.120 Give credit to The Globe and Mail for reporting on Jody Wilson-Raybould and the
00:02:06.880 SNC-Lavalin scandal, and give them credit for their strong reporting about China and its influence
00:02:13.320 in Canada. The Globe is paying a price for that, by the way. One Chinese-Canadian politician with a
00:02:20.240 pro-Beijing agenda is suing them for defamation. So, The Globe's walking the walk on this one.
00:02:27.600 And the latest by The Globe is this. Beijing says,
00:02:31.140 Canadian military participation at Chinese sports competition, more proof it's not losing global
00:02:38.000 support. Right there, that's odd. Beijing says so? Is that how we had to find out about this?
00:02:44.700 The Canadian military is going over to Communist China to have fun, to play some sports, to engage
00:02:52.540 in a little bonhomie, some camaraderie, friendship amongst the nations of the world. Like a mini
00:02:59.700 Olympics, we're normalizing them, we're befriending them, we're giving them moral and political
00:03:04.260 cover. Even though they continue to hold two Canadian civilians as hostage, it's almost exactly
00:03:09.120 a year now since they were kidnapped. They still have them hostage. And we're going over there
00:03:13.740 to play some games and have some beers with them, make friends with them. Oh, by the way,
00:03:19.560 Beijing has also declared war on our agricultural sector, billions of dollars a year. I mean,
00:03:24.920 I know, who cares about that in Liberalville? The affected farmers are mainly in the West
00:03:29.860 that voted for conservatives. So, so what? But imagine sending not just government officials
00:03:35.840 or diplomats. But our military are actual soldiers to submit to China and play in their games. And
00:03:45.220 you know that the Liberals knew this was morally wrong because they kept it a secret, because
00:03:51.000 they knew it was embarrassing and wrong. So they kept it a secret. This actually started
00:03:56.360 during the election campaign. We only learned about it now. Let me read from this Globe story.
00:04:00.900 Beijing's embassy in Canada says the fact the Canadian military just sent a big delegation
00:04:07.000 to a sporting competition in China is more evidence the Asian power is not losing friends.
00:04:12.900 So, so they're bragging. They're literally using Canada's submissiveness as proof that China's
00:04:18.460 doing just fine. The Canadian government kept this a secret. The Globe and Mail criticized China
00:04:24.400 in an op-ed. So China released this secret information just as a taunt to the Globe. Let me read.
00:04:34.000 The Chinese government, through its representatives in Canada, wants Canadians to know Beijing is not
00:04:39.740 isolated or losing support. It posted a statement on the website of its embassy in Canada to criticize
00:04:44.580 a column published in the Globe and Mail last week titled, How China Loses Friends and Alienates
00:04:49.560 People. The guest column by a US academic discussed the backlash from China after
00:04:53.960 Daryl Morey, general manager of the NBA's Houston Rockets, tweeted remarks in support of the
00:04:58.900 protests in Hong Kong and said bullying is self-defeating behavior that will cost Beijing
00:05:02.780 support. The embassy said the list of China's friends is growing. They did that here. You
00:05:09.020 can see right here. This is the Chinese embassy website. The seventh CISM military world games
00:05:15.460 in Wuhan, China, attended by 9,308 military athletes from 109 countries, including a big delegation
00:05:23.020 from Canada, speaks volumes in this regard. Oh my God, that's a heck of a retort. And obviously,
00:05:28.680 they're right. That's why that stings. They're right. That was just last week and the week before
00:05:36.980 that whole competition, by the way. During the election, no wonder the liberals kept it secret.
00:05:41.700 I see a lot of Chinese propaganda outlets that are really, really bad at, they're mad and they're
00:05:52.740 bashing Donald Trump and his trade war against them. But they're rather pitiful. I saw this senior
00:05:59.760 Chinese propagandist laughing at Donald Trump for the economy. Really? They're just trash talking,
00:06:06.340 but it's laughable because nothing sticks to Trump. Because it is an empirical fact that America's
00:06:11.300 economy is the strongest it's ever been. And it is an empirical fact that China just clocked the
00:06:16.920 lowest GDP growth rate since 1992. And it could actually fall into recession. Not a lot of spiking
00:06:24.460 the football that China can do to Trump. But the Chinese can absolutely taunt Canada. Because what
00:06:32.800 they just said is true. Canada is still doing exactly what China wants us to do, despite China's
00:06:38.200 outrageous conduct towards us. Here's the globe again. Ottawa didn't issue any news release before
00:06:44.960 or during the games to draw attention to Canada's participation. Daniel LeBoutillier, head of media
00:06:52.000 relations at the Department of National Defense, said Canada sent 114 athletes, 57 coaches and support
00:07:00.240 staff. Normally that's the sort of thing you brag about, you tweet about, you press release and photo
00:07:04.760 up about more than 170 people flying to a faraway country for a sporting event. That's not quite an
00:07:09.860 Olympic-sized delegation, but that is a multi-million dollar effort. Hey, do we even do that kind of
00:07:15.960 effort for our NATO allies? Or is this kind of submissive, total unconditional love reserved only for our
00:07:25.140 worst enemies? Of course, the boss of our military is Harjit Sajjan. He loves China. He attended a
00:07:32.240 celebration for the 70th anniversary of the Communist Party of China, right in the middle of the election
00:07:37.460 campaign too. It's not even a celebration of China, the country, or China, the people. It was a celebration
00:07:43.660 of the dictatorship. Harjit Sajjan literally ran into a bathroom rather than answer questions about it from
00:07:51.340 our reporter, Kian Bextie. And then he ran into an elevator and had his staff try and block Kian
00:07:55.840 in a chase. I don't know if you saw that video. I'm going to show you how cowardly our defense
00:07:59.840 minister is. Take a look at him running from Kian. Look at this. You're the minister of defense.
00:08:05.940 Arguably, you have the most credibility out of any ministers to, like, when you're considering the
00:08:10.520 Chinese government looking at us. Your support of their party at this event is kind of damning to
00:08:17.140 our diplomatic position, wouldn't you say? Was it approved by the government or was it a campaign
00:08:27.000 stunt? Minister, please, these are some of the questions. Was it approved by the government?
00:08:41.640 God, you're an asshole.
00:08:47.140 I'm sorry. They're not going to leave you.
00:09:02.140 He goes three, four, five, so...
00:09:09.140 You have to let me out of the elevator.
00:09:10.140 That's right. Where are you trying to go?
00:09:11.140 You have to let me out of the elevator.
00:09:12.140 Out of what?
00:09:13.140 You can't hold me.
00:09:14.140 I didn't quite touch that.
00:09:15.140 Are you pushing me?
00:09:17.140 Sorry, minister, if you could just answer the questions.
00:09:27.140 Excuse me.
00:09:28.140 Was it approved by the government or not?
00:09:33.140 Was it approved by the government?
00:09:35.140 Or was this a campaign stunt?
00:09:38.140 I got it.
00:09:39.140 I got it.
00:09:44.140 Can you believe that?
00:09:46.140 That's Canada's defense minister, under Justin Trudeau, being asked specifically about his love for communist China.
00:09:54.140 Didn't Kean do a great job?
00:09:56.140 Oh, but it gets worse and it gets weirder, my friends.
00:09:59.140 Check this out in the National Post.
00:10:03.140 This is a great story.
00:10:04.140 Canadian veterans of People's Liberation Army form association.
00:10:09.140 Sing of China's martial glory.
00:10:11.140 Oh, is this some story from China?
00:10:13.140 No.
00:10:14.140 This is a story from Toronto.
00:10:15.140 Members of the Canada Chinese Veterans Society like to gather and pay homage to the forces that crushed the Tiananmen Square protests in Canada.
00:10:28.140 So they're doing this in Canada.
00:10:30.140 The Chinese communist vet, the ones driving the tanks.
00:10:33.140 They're getting together to celebrate the good time.
00:10:36.140 Like when they rolled over the democracy protesters in Tiananmen Square.
00:10:41.140 The guys in the tanks are celebrating here.
00:10:43.140 This picture, this is not from China.
00:10:46.140 This is from Richmond Hill, just north of Toronto.
00:10:49.140 Other pictures in this great story.
00:10:51.140 Congrats to the National Post.
00:10:52.140 Give them credit.
00:10:53.140 Pictures with the Chinese flag.
00:10:55.140 Picture practicing the Chinese military marching.
00:10:57.140 This is from Canada.
00:11:00.140 That's not just the Chinese flag.
00:11:02.140 That's the People's Liberation Army.
00:11:04.140 That's the army, by the way, that Canadian soldiers fought against in Korea.
00:11:10.140 They're dressed in the uniform of China's...
00:11:13.140 Let me read this.
00:11:14.140 Dressed in the uniform of China's People's Liberation Army,
00:11:17.140 the 40 or so singers stood proudly in neat rows and belted out an old favorite.
00:11:23.140 I am a soldier talks of defeating the Japanese, vanquishing Nationalist leader Chiang Kai-shek in the Communist Revolution,
00:11:31.140 and being tested by the Revolutionary War.
00:11:33.140 The performance brought forth a whirlwind of Chinese military spirit in a foreign land, said a report on the concert.
00:11:40.140 This recital earlier this month at the Center for Performing Arts in Richmond Hill, Ontario, was not offered by a visiting martial choir from Beijing.
00:11:48.140 It was the work of a surprising new Canadian association dedicated to retired troops of the Canadian people...
00:11:54.140 China's People's Liberation Army, or PLA, China's armed forces, who are now settled in this country.
00:12:00.140 I'm not going to read the end of the story, but it goes on in this vein for...
00:12:04.140 It's fascinating. I recommend the story.
00:12:06.140 Let me read just a couple of final paragraphs, okay?
00:12:09.140 In a free country, the society members have every right to commemorate their military backgrounds and retain a fondness for their country of origin,
00:12:16.140 noted Christian Luprecht, a political science professor at RMC.
00:12:20.140 But if you take on Canadian citizenship, then you sign up for a certain loyalty to our country, and particularly loyalty to our values, our way of life, he said.
00:12:29.140 Ha ha! What country are you talking about, professor?
00:12:32.140 That may be incompatible with proud membership in a veterans group whose military reports directly to the Chinese Communist Party
00:12:38.140 and contributes to instability domestically and internationally, said Luprecht.
00:12:43.140 Wang, a Beijing native whose Tiananmen book, Inconvenient Memories, was published in May, suggested the leaders of the veterans group are likely China loyalists,
00:12:52.140 while some other members may simply feel nostalgic for their youth.
00:12:55.140 But even casual participation cannot be justified, she argued.
00:12:59.140 We all said our oath of citizenship, said Wang, who came to Canada in 2006.
00:13:04.140 The moment we became a Canadian, we swore to be loyal to our adopted country and abandon our loyalty to the home country.
00:13:09.140 If they are permanent residents, I suggest the government take this record into consideration when they apply for citizenship.
00:13:15.140 Ha ha ha! I'm sorry! I love that! I love that!
00:13:19.140 Do you think any immigrants have to take a values test before Justin Trudeau admits them to Canada as citizens?
00:13:25.140 I mean, Quebec is taking baby steps talking about that now, but they won't cover this, loyalty to a communist military regime.
00:13:32.140 In Canada, immigrants don't even have an in-person interview anymore.
00:13:37.140 Ha! And imagine anyone thinking that Justin Trudeau, of all people, would bring in such a values test,
00:13:44.140 and against Chinese communists, of all people.
00:13:47.140 Heck, I'm surprised that Trudeau didn't invite this team of communist war veterans to have a special delegation
00:13:53.140 to those military games in China.
00:13:56.140 Last week, I'm surprised Trudeau didn't dress up as a Chinese soldier himself.
00:14:01.140 for Halloween last night.
00:14:05.140 Stay with us for more.
00:14:18.140 Welcome back.
00:14:19.140 It has been a source of great frustration for many Canadians that the RCMP, despite a substantial amount of evidence,
00:14:27.140 have not filed charges against Justin Trudeau for corruption in the SNC-Lavallam matter.
00:14:35.140 This is not just gossip, rumor, and innuendo.
00:14:40.140 The Ethics and Conflict of Interest Commissioner has convicted Trudeau of violating that law.
00:14:47.140 Now, that's not a criminal conviction, but it is breaking the law.
00:14:52.140 We have heard from that same Ethics Commissioner that no fewer than nine members of the Prime Minister's office
00:15:00.140 had information and wanted to testify about the goings-on, but were barred from doing so by Trudeau.
00:15:09.140 Well, police charges would overcome that and would get to the heart of the matter.
00:15:15.140 Parliament's Justice Committee blocked it.
00:15:17.140 The PMO blocked it.
00:15:18.140 The Privy Clerk's office blocked it.
00:15:20.140 Where are the police?
00:15:24.140 Well, there's one thing left besides the police.
00:15:27.140 It's a rare legal prosecution in Canada, and it's lawful in the United Kingdom as well.
00:15:35.140 It's called a private prosecution, where an ordinary citizen sues using the criminal code.
00:15:44.140 Did you know that as a private citizen, you can take the criminal code to court and sue for a crime?
00:15:53.140 It's rarely done, but it can be done.
00:15:56.140 And joining us now via Skype from Hamilton is a man who is trying to use that private prosecution
00:16:03.140 to take on Justin Trudeau for corruption.
00:16:06.140 Gary McHale joins us now.
00:16:08.140 Hi, Gary.
00:16:09.140 Nice to see you again.
00:16:10.140 Thanks for having me.
00:16:11.140 Well, the last time we spoke was many years ago at Sun News, and it was about the Caledonia standoff.
00:16:18.140 You do a lot of citizen legal work, and you've had some successes in the past with private prosecutions,
00:16:28.140 and that's why I feel we should at least hear about your private prosecution here, because this isn't your first rodeo.
00:16:35.140 Most people have never heard of private prosecutions, let alone done one, but you've had some experience, haven't you?
00:16:41.140 Yes.
00:16:42.140 Starting back in 2008, we filed our first set of private prosecutions, just a few OPP officers.
00:16:51.140 The court did issue the charges against them, and over the following two years after that,
00:16:58.140 I was very successful at getting OPP Commissioner Julian Fantino criminally charged for threatening elected officials,
00:17:05.140 and I got Deputy Commissioner Chris Lewis charged for obstructing justice,
00:17:10.140 because he ordered his officers to arrest me regardless of the evidence.
00:17:15.140 Now, getting a charge laid in a private prosecution is one thing.
00:17:20.140 Did any of those, after that first legal hurdle, did they lead to any sort of success?
00:17:27.140 I think you mentioned Julian Fantino.
00:17:29.140 Obviously, he was never convicted of a crime.
00:17:31.140 We know how that story ended for him.
00:17:34.140 So, getting past that first hurdle, what has to happen to go further, and did anything come from getting through that first hurdle in those cases?
00:17:46.140 I'm trying to learn a little more about private prosecutions from you, a guy who's actually done them, before we move on to talk about Trudeau.
00:17:53.140 Well, there are three steps.
00:17:55.140 The first step is you just appear before a justice of a peace, and you provide them the paperwork stating exactly who the person is,
00:18:04.140 what the date of the offense is, and what criminal charge you are trying to prosecute the person on.
00:18:11.140 And all the JP does at that level is verify that you're actually seeking a charge that exists,
00:18:17.140 because a lot of times people don't read through the criminal code very carefully.
00:18:22.140 Once that process is done, he sets a date for you to appear in camera, meaning that only I get to appear, the Crown gets to appear,
00:18:31.140 the person who's accused of the offense, he's not allowed to be there, he's not allowed to have any lawyers there,
00:18:37.140 no evidence from his side is allowed to be permitted, and I present the evidence that I have,
00:18:43.140 and then the court makes a decision whether or not to issue a charge.
00:18:47.140 Once the charge is issued at that level, it then goes to the police, and they have to serve the summons to the accused to appear in court to respond to the charges.
00:18:58.140 Generally, the Crown then takes over the case at the first court appearance, and then they follow through their normal process of whether or not they stay the charge or prosecute the person.
00:19:09.140 In the examples that I've done with OPP officers, of course, the Ontario government immediately jumped in and stayed all the charges at the first court appearance.
00:19:18.140 There were some charges I did get against some of the native protesters that the Crown did prosecute and did get convictions on.
00:19:26.140 Oh, interesting. So, obviously, when you went after the police themselves, I would imagine their internal affairs may have looked at it,
00:19:34.140 and they said, no, this is too political, this is, they probably called it a stunt, and they took it over and quashed it.
00:19:40.140 But you're saying that in some of the private prosecutions, you had the law right, you had the facts right, you had the accused right,
00:19:49.140 and so the Crown said, yeah, he's got us there, and they took it over and took those to completion.
00:19:55.140 Is that what you're saying? Some of your private prosecutions resulted in a conviction?
00:20:00.140 Yes.
00:20:01.140 That's very interesting.
00:20:02.140 For some of the native protesters, there was at least two that I used to charge against.
00:20:07.140 Actually, there was three, and the Crown reached a deal with two of them for a peace bond, and the third one was convicted of assault.
00:20:15.140 Isn't that interesting? So, I mean, I've never, I mean, I haven't been a practicing lawyer in 15 years,
00:20:23.140 so this is a very rare procedure that I don't think one in a hundred Canadian lawyers has done a private prosecution.
00:20:31.140 Sounds like you've done more than one. So, what is happening in Ottawa on Monday?
00:20:37.140 Well, I've done the formal issuing of the step one. I did that in Hamilton.
00:20:43.140 You can go to any court to swear out the information. That's what they call the charge sheet.
00:20:49.140 But the charges, all criminal cases have to be heard in the jurisdiction of where the crime was allegedly committed.
00:20:56.140 And so, I have to drive to Ottawa on Monday to present the evidence there before a justice of the peace,
00:21:02.140 that Justin Trudeau did commit obstructing justice under the criminal code.
00:21:08.140 And is that the hearing that's private, where the Crown is there as well, Trudeau's lawyers are not,
00:21:16.140 and you have to convince that judge to issue a charge? Is that the step we're talking about?
00:21:22.140 Yes, that's the step. And I'm allowed to call witnesses if I want. On Monday, I will be presenting the evidence that's already on the Justice Department's website.
00:21:34.140 There's the taped phone calls. There's the sworn testimony from various people. There's some video.
00:21:43.140 And so, I'll present all that step by step and go through the, I'll present also the case law on what are the elements needed for each charge that I'm alleging.
00:21:53.140 And as long as I provide some evidence for each one of the elements, the justice piece must issue the charge.
00:21:59.140 Huh. Now, are you, from a procedure point of view, do you know if the Crown will be there?
00:22:09.140 Have they been in contact with you? Has the Justice Department assigned lawyers to this case?
00:22:16.140 Are they taking it seriously, or do they regard this as a gimmick?
00:22:20.140 Well, the Crown's always there. There's always a Crown in every criminal courtroom in this country.
00:22:27.140 And so, there will be a Crown. It won't be assigned just for this particular case, because what will happen on that day is any other private prosecution,
00:22:37.140 and they are becoming more common. And any peace bonds that people are trying to get, which are also done in camera,
00:22:43.140 those will all be assigned to one courtroom. So, the Crown will handle all those cases in one day.
00:22:48.140 Someone else attempted to lay this charge three weeks ago. They got the paperwork wrong. I did drive up to Ottawa to present the evidence,
00:22:59.140 and the Crown withdrew it before we even got into the courtroom. But they did give a very detailed explanation to the court,
00:23:07.140 and we ordered a transcript, and it seemed like they took it seriously. They just saw all the flaws in the paperwork,
00:23:14.140 and said, based on the errors in the paperwork, it shouldn't proceed. And so, that's why I re-swore out the information in Ottawa,
00:23:22.140 because I have experience doing this.
00:23:25.140 Well, that's very interesting that the Crown took it seriously enough to give a substantive reply.
00:23:31.140 Now, you mentioned that the judge is a justice of the peace. Again, I'm rusty in my law, but that's a fairly junior level decider.
00:23:48.140 Well, in Canada, whether it's a police officer, the process for getting a charge, whether it's a police officer
00:23:55.140 or private citizen is the same thing, same way. A police officer has to go before a justice of the peace
00:24:01.140 and provide information, and the justice will issue the arrest warrant.
00:24:05.140 Got it, got it.
00:24:06.140 So, all criminal cases start with a justice of the peace in Canada.
00:24:11.140 Thank you. Look, I'm learning from you, Gary. I mean, you're the guy who's done that.
00:24:14.140 I will also say that Canada is one of the only countries in the world that allows this.
00:24:20.140 I know the UK does.
00:24:21.140 The United States has never allowed it.
00:24:23.140 Canada codified this in 2002, which is fairly modern,
00:24:28.140 and they decided that there has to be a way for citizens to lay charges against government officials.
00:24:34.140 And that's exactly what the motive behind them creating this in the criminal code.
00:24:39.140 It wasn't so you can charge your neighbor. You can do that.
00:24:42.140 Right.
00:24:43.140 But the real reason was that there has to be a way when the police and the Crown will not prosecute a case
00:24:49.140 that citizens can bring forward charges and are allowed to prosecute it unless the Crown steps in.
00:24:56.140 Yeah.
00:24:57.140 Well, that's very interesting, and I thank you for the education that you just told me.
00:25:00.140 I mean, I suppose I should know that, but I'm rusty on my criminal procedure.
00:25:05.140 So you will be on Monday at what, 10 a.m. in the courthouse there on Elgin?
00:25:11.140 Yes, at 10 o'clock on, I believe it's 9.30 actually.
00:25:16.140 9.30.
00:25:17.140 So at 9.30 you walk in, and there'll be other people in that same court,
00:25:21.140 and you've got your evidence, and the Crown will be there,
00:25:24.140 and you will attempt to show, like a police officer would,
00:25:29.140 that you have a substantial enough case that charges ought to be issued against Justin Trudeau,
00:25:36.140 and then whether the Crown steps in to stay them or steps in to prosecute them is up to them.
00:25:44.140 Do I have that right? Because I'm learning from you here, Gary.
00:25:46.140 Well, generally what happens is the Crown will allow you to present all the evidence you have.
00:25:51.140 Everybody else in the courtroom will be ordered to leave, and you then present your evidence.
00:25:57.140 The Justice of Peace will then make a decision to issue the charge.
00:26:00.140 From that moment on, the Crown normally just says, we will now review it,
00:26:05.140 and then they'll make a decision on the first court appearance.
00:26:08.140 But they are allowed by law to intervene at that stage and say,
00:26:12.140 we're going to stay the charge right away.
00:26:15.140 Right.
00:26:16.140 But normally they review these over a period of months or two months
00:26:20.140 to decide whether or not they're going to take over the whole case.
00:26:24.140 So, the Crown could kill this immediately.
00:26:31.140 Do they have to have reasons to do so?
00:26:35.140 I mean, the Crown, the prosecutors, that's not like a judge who traditionally issues reasons.
00:26:40.140 You say that there were reasons last time.
00:26:43.140 If the Crown prosecutor doesn't like the cut of your jib, doesn't like citizen lawyering,
00:26:52.140 doesn't want to take on the Prime Minister, your project here could be stillborn. Is that right?
00:26:59.140 Well, normally in Canada, when the Crown withdraws a charge, they rarely give a reason in court.
00:27:07.140 And I'm talking about just any kind of criminal case.
00:27:09.140 They rarely give a reason for withdrawing a case.
00:27:13.140 They're not required to.
00:27:14.140 If they don't give any reason, it's very hard to challenge.
00:27:17.140 But if the Crown does stand up and say, well, we prefer waiting for the RCMP report,
00:27:22.140 I think that would show a bias.
00:27:24.140 And any kind of bias in the system is automatically illegal.
00:27:28.140 So, it'll be interesting to see, do they give a reason if they decide to stay it right away?
00:27:34.140 And if they give a reason, does it fall within their authority?
00:27:38.140 And we have to understand that under British law, the Crown is virtually master of the courtroom when it comes to criminal cases.
00:27:48.140 It's very rare that you get to overturn when the Crown either stays or withdraws a criminal charge.
00:27:54.140 Right. I mean, because they have great discretion and no judge would want to second-guess a prosecutor's decision.
00:28:00.140 And I think that's right.
00:28:02.140 So, we were thinking of sending a reporter on Monday, but you're saying the entire court is evacuated while you make your case.
00:28:10.140 I suppose afterwards, you would be able to give an update and we would also know if the Crown had immediately disposed of the case.
00:28:20.140 So, perhaps it is worth attending in court on Monday anyways. Am I right?
00:28:24.140 Well, certainly you can attend and I can give you a copy of the evidence I'm going to present.
00:28:29.140 And obviously, afterwards, I can give an update of exactly what took place.
00:28:35.140 I actually expect there's a 50-50 chance the Crown is going to let me present all the evidence.
00:28:42.140 And if the evidence is presented, there's no doubt in my mind that the charges will go forward.
00:28:47.140 I will say that I did win at the Court of Appeal.
00:28:51.140 I'm one of the few people who have ever challenged the Crown withdrawal on a criminal charge.
00:28:55.140 The Court of Appeal did agree with me and re-established the private prosecution that the Crown had withdrawn.
00:29:04.140 So, there are limits on what they're allowed to do.
00:29:07.140 Well, listen, this is all very new to me.
00:29:11.140 I think it would be new to most practicing lawyers, and I'm not a practicing lawyer.
00:29:16.140 I think it would be new to most criminal lawyers because it's so rare.
00:29:20.140 It's interesting to me that you have used this legal procedure in the past, including with some success.
00:29:27.140 And as you said, you've actually litigated it to the Court of Appeal.
00:29:30.140 I have to tell you that I'm skeptical that this will move forward.
00:29:34.140 If the RCMP has not acted, if a letter from five attorneys general across the country did not press them to act.
00:29:42.140 And I know the Justice Department is right in the middle of it.
00:29:45.140 It's their own operations that were allegedly compromised by corruption.
00:29:50.140 This is a case that reaches to the very highest heights of this country.
00:29:55.140 In fact, the Prime Minister's office talked about bringing in Beverly McLaughlin, the former Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, to settle it down.
00:30:04.140 So this goes straight to the top, Gary.
00:30:06.140 I would be surprised if a Justice of the Peace said, yeah, go lay charges against the Prime Minister.
00:30:13.140 I would be very surprised if that happened.
00:30:15.140 But this story has been a story of surprises.
00:30:18.140 I think we will send someone to the court on Monday, and I wish you well.
00:30:22.140 But my hopes are not high.
00:30:24.140 I think that Justin Trudeau will continue to evade justice, though he so clearly has broken the law.
00:30:31.140 Last word to you, my friend.
00:30:33.140 The only thing that may help us is that the crown in this particular case is going to be the agent for the Attorney General for Ontario.
00:30:42.140 It's not the federal crown.
00:30:44.140 And so there is a certain amount of separation there.
00:30:48.140 And I agree with you that there's a likelihood of it's completely going through.
00:30:53.140 It is short or small, but we have to try.
00:30:58.140 And if the crown acts properly, the charges will go forward.
00:31:01.140 All right, well, listen, thanks for giving us a briefing.
00:31:04.140 I feel like I learned a few things here today.
00:31:06.140 And we wish you luck on Monday, and we'll be there.
00:31:08.140 Okay, thank you very much.
00:31:10.140 All right, there you have it.
00:31:11.140 Gary McHale, who has used private prosecutions with some success in the past,
00:31:16.140 will be trying again on Monday morning against Justin Trudeau.
00:31:20.140 It's long odds, but as he said at the end there, we've got to try it.
00:31:25.140 Stay with us for more.
00:31:35.140 Hey folks, on my monologue yesterday about Kanye West turning to Jesus, Peter writes,
00:31:40.140 incredible harmony, love the singing.
00:31:42.140 Yeah, you know, Kanye West can sing, and that choir is good, isn't it?
00:31:49.140 Bob writes, bravo to Kanye.
00:31:51.140 It takes intestinal fortitude in these times to admit to anyone other than God that he lives in your heart.
00:31:57.140 Oh, exactly.
00:31:59.140 And the left doesn't know what to make of it.
00:32:02.140 They don't know what to do with it.
00:32:05.140 Liz writes, Kanye West's celebration of Jesus is endearing and refreshing,
00:32:09.140 and I agree that it could have a positive effect on culture, particularly black culture,
00:32:13.140 showcasing family and Christian values with no fear.
00:32:15.140 It's just the counter the world needs now.
00:32:18.140 Yeah, and I mean, you heard him.
00:32:20.140 You heard the clip where he used to be talking, you know,
00:32:22.140 he used to rap about hoes, and you'd be a hoe, and whatever the exact lyrics,
00:32:27.140 lyrics where I don't remember.
00:32:29.140 And he's a very different place right now, isn't he?
00:32:31.140 I think that his existing fan base, well, they'll give him a listen.
00:32:38.140 140 million records sold.
00:32:40.140 That's not even how you count music these days.
00:32:42.140 No one buys a record.
00:32:43.140 It's all downloads and live streams.
00:32:46.140 This lad's been heard a billion times.
00:32:49.140 If even 1% of people are turned on by this, well, that's 10 million, isn't it?
00:32:56.140 Well, that's our show for today and for the week.
00:32:59.140 Until Monday, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,
00:33:02.140 see you at home.
00:33:03.140 Good night, and keep fighting for freedom.
00:33:05.140 I'm really glad to be there.
00:33:06.140 And I'm glad to be with you.
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