Rebel News Podcast - Trudeau shuffles his cabinet of incompetent cronies (Guest host： Sheila Gunn Reid)

00:00:00.000 Justin Trudeau shuffled his cabinet this week. I'm going to bring you the good of it, if there is any, and of course the bad of it.

00:00:07.180 It's January 15th, 2019. I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed, and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.

00:00:15.140 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

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00:00:22.960 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:30.000 So, Liberal MP Scott Bryson is quitting. With an election coming up this fall, I guess he couldn't even stick it out till the end of his term.

00:00:41.180 Bryson was the president of the Treasury Board, so what's the urgency here? Why quit now?

00:00:46.500 Well, some people are speculating, and that might include me, that he's quitting now to avoid embarrassing the government,

00:00:53.260 as he's probably about to become implicated for serious wrongdoing in the Vice Admiral Norman trial.

00:01:00.560 Now, Norman is facing a criminal charge of breach of trust for allegedly leaking cabinet secrets about a $700 million Navy supply ship procurement deal.

00:01:10.260 His trial starts in August, and evidence already filed in court shows that Bryson urged his colleagues to hit pause on the project with Davey's shipbuilding,

00:01:19.900 until more study was done. The defence alleges that Bryson intervened in the project on behalf of a rival shipbuilder,

00:01:28.460 with whom Bryson has long-standing ties. That shipbuilder is Irving.

00:01:33.800 It looks like classic liberal cronyism. The likes of the sponsorship scandal and Vice Admiral Norman is just the fall guy to blame for the information finally coming to light.

00:01:44.520 But time in a trial will tell if this all is the case.

00:01:48.700 Bryson says he's quitting for family reasons, and he just became a father of twins, so that's probably as believable a reason as any,

00:01:57.240 if that really is the reason. Again, time in a trial will tell us these things.

00:02:02.100 But Bryson quitting has prompted a cabinet shuffle.

00:02:05.660 There's a vacancy at the Treasury Board, which now needs to be filled,

00:02:09.740 so the Liberals are changing square dance partners, so to speak.

00:02:14.460 And this is Trudeau we're talking about, so, you know, don't expect him to put anybody who can actually do the job of their portfolio into a portfolio.

00:02:24.220 That's not how things work.

00:02:26.040 Somehow a lot of these shuffles almost always have a bit of an upside and then a big downside.

00:02:30.680 An upside because a failing minister is suddenly shuffled out of their portfolio,

00:02:34.680 and a downside because they're usually shuffled into a new one where they can continue to be as out of their depth as they always were.

00:02:44.180 Now let's take a look at a few of the shuffled cabinet members.

00:02:48.040 First off, Jane Philpott is being shuffled out of Indigenous services, and that's very good. 1.00

00:02:54.420 She's moving over to fill in as the president of the Treasury Board, and that is very bad.

00:02:59.420 Now look, I'm very glad she's out at Indigenous services because she barely moved the needle on very basic things, 1.00

00:03:06.360 like clean drinking water for First Nations on reserve.

00:03:09.740 And she made herself famous in Ottawa by spending $110,000 in legal fees, 0.99

00:03:15.220 fighting a First Nations girl over $6,000 in dental work.

00:03:19.400 Now maybe, just maybe, some of that misplaced fiscal conservatism would better serve Philpott over at the Treasury Board,

00:03:27.760 which is basically the secretive panel that oversees government management.

00:03:32.780 But I highly doubt it, and here's why.

00:03:36.600 Philpott only pinches pennies when it comes to Canadians, but she doesn't pinch them for herself. 0.78

00:03:44.420 She spares no expense on herself.

00:03:46.220 Who could forget how she tried to pass off a $3,700 limo expense, 1.00

00:03:50.740 which was especially sleazy given that the limo company was owned by a Liberal Party supporter.

00:03:55.840 But that wasn't her one and only time she tried to take advantage of her expense account.

00:04:02.300 Philpott also tried to charge the cost of a suitcase and her Nexus card to the taxpayer,

00:04:08.400 and she almost got away with it until an internal audit flagged her $381 in nickel and diming Canadians.

00:04:16.940 Philpott's definitely not the person you want overseeing government spending, if you ask me.

00:04:22.940 Philpott leaving Indigenous Services means now there's a vacancy over there.

00:04:28.720 Seamus O'Regan is being shuffled out of Veterans Affairs, which is good,

00:04:33.400 but he's ending up at Indigenous Services, which is absolutely horrible.

00:04:38.680 Seamus O'Regan is most notable for being a talking head on TV and Trudeau's groomsman in his life before politics,

00:04:47.040 which of course made him utterly unprepared for his role at Veterans Affairs and his performance.

00:04:54.400 It showed as much.

00:04:56.040 Just a couple of months ago, O'Regan told a room full of veterans that he understood what they were going through,

00:05:03.200 the pain and the confusion that soldiers can feel when adjusting to civilian life,

00:05:08.700 because he once had been a TV journalist who then transitioned into government,

00:05:13.720 and he experienced what he thought was a similar shock to his system.

00:05:19.040 Yes, yes.

00:05:20.320 Canada AM was just like Fallujah.

00:05:23.540 Thanks, Seamus.

00:05:24.700 Under O'Regan, it was uncovered that Veterans Affairs paid for the PTSD treatment of a convicted murderer

00:05:31.640 who killed an off-duty police officer and stuffed her body in a garbage can under a bridge

00:05:38.020 because the murderer had a father who was a veteran.

00:05:41.560 The murderer had never been a veteran himself.

00:05:44.320 Oh, and the PTSD treatment the murderer was receiving?

00:05:47.660 Well, that's the PTSD he gave himself when he was killing the police officer.

00:05:53.820 O'Regan spent much of his mandate at Veterans Affairs fighting veterans in court over their pensions,

00:06:00.120 wasting their resources on non-veteran convicted murderers

00:06:04.380 and not understanding veterans' issues whatsoever.

00:06:08.740 And now he's moved on to mangle the ministry meant to aid another underserved vulnerable group.

00:06:15.100 What have Indigenous people ever done to Justin Trudeau to deserve someone like O'Regan? 0.92

00:06:21.540 Why does someone so inept and so terrible and so disrespectful to the very people he serves 0.64

00:06:27.660 keep getting these high-profile files? 0.85

00:06:31.300 Well, it might have something to do with this photo here.

00:06:35.220 That's Justin Trudeau's wedding photo.

00:06:37.440 And probably this here, this weird, gross tweet.

00:06:41.220 My captain, my captain.

00:06:43.720 He's Trudeau's good buddy.

00:06:45.620 This is run-of-the-mill liberal favoritism.

00:06:48.160 This is Trudeau rewarding those who elevate him to godlike stature.

00:06:51.960 And it's weird, frankly, it's a little bit like what cult leaders do.

00:06:57.280 But O'Regan being shuffled out of Veterans Affairs, of course, now leaves a vacancy there.

00:07:03.940 Jody Wilson-Raybould is being shuffled out of Justice and Attorney General,

00:07:09.140 which is fantastic, but she's being put into Veterans Affairs, which is,

00:07:13.700 it's not terrible, but it's not great.

00:07:17.980 It's the least bad cabinet shuffle here.

00:07:20.140 Being shuffled into Justice and Attorney General is a backbencher named David Lamedi.

00:07:25.420 I guess we'll see what he makes of his portfolio in the short time between now and the election being called.

00:07:31.800 But I'm happy to see Raybould-Wilson and her personal opinions

00:07:35.900 and SJW influence on our criminal justice system being shown the door. 1.00

00:07:41.280 We know how Jody Wilson-Raybould feels about those who choose to defend their own lives,

00:07:48.060 who choose not to be victimized by criminals,

00:07:51.480 who then defile the sanctity and safety of another person's home and private property.

00:07:57.240 We know how Jody Wilson-Raybould feels about people who refuse to become just another crime statistic.

00:08:05.440 Don't take my word for it, though.

00:08:07.360 Let's take Jody Wilson-Raybould's.

00:08:09.220 When a jury found Saskatchewan farmer Gerald Stanley not guilty

00:08:13.500 in the death of Colton Boushey, a trespasser who was shot after he and a group of other people

00:08:19.980 drove onto Stanley's farm, tried to steal his truck and punched his wife in the face,

00:08:25.600 Justin Trudeau tweeted about his grief and his sorrow.

00:08:29.340 Now, not for the Stanley family, who was absolutely devastated by having to fight a criminal charge

00:08:34.800 after possibly saving their own lives that day.

00:08:38.120 But Justin Trudeau sympathized with the criminal who was killed,

00:08:42.280 and Raybould Wilson agreed, also tweeting,

00:08:44.440 Thank you, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

00:08:47.520 My thoughts are with the family of Colton Boushey tonight.

00:08:50.960 I truly feel your pain and hear all of your voices.

00:08:54.480 As a country, we can and must do better.

00:08:57.240 I'm committed to working every day to ensure justice for all Canadians.

00:09:01.520 Yes, Raybould Wilson blamed the real victim for defending himself.

00:09:07.940 She questioned the integrity of a jury verdict while never hearing a word of testimony in the trial.

00:09:14.620 Even after she was barraged by people saying it was not her place to weigh in on whether or not a jury was correct or not,

00:09:22.060 and that her comments revealed her extreme bias and a lack of judgment and independence,

00:09:27.040 and even lent to interference, Wilson Raybould doubled down,

00:09:31.680 saying her comments were not on a specific verdict.

00:09:35.480 Yeah, that's a really weird excuse when Wilson Raybould invoked Colton Boushey by name in her tweet.

00:09:42.660 What other verdicts could she be talking about with Colton Boushey involved?

00:09:47.440 So yeah, I'm pretty glad Wilson Raybould is gone from justice and Attorney General,

00:09:52.900 and it may be that her empathetic nature might better serve our veterans who have been shafted time and time again by this liberal government.

00:10:02.920 The problem with Justin Trudeau's cabinet shuffle and really his cabinet in general

00:10:09.400 is the problem we've always had with his cabinet and his government.

00:10:14.100 It's based on cronyism, on unwavering and uncritical loyalty, on extreme sycophancy over merit,

00:10:21.220 and on meeting an arbitrary gender quota because in liberal land, 0.57

00:10:25.440 looking hip at all times is far better than being effective in your job.

00:10:30.480 And the message here to other liberal MPs looking to make a name for themselves in cabinet

00:10:36.400 is not to actually do your job.

00:10:39.380 It's pretty clear that does not matter here. 0.98

00:10:41.560 The message is to get much better at sucking up. 0.98

00:10:46.100 Stay with us. 0.98

00:10:47.160 More up next after the break.

00:11:02.360 Well, welcome back, everybody.

00:11:04.180 There's a Trudeau cabinet shuffle.

00:11:06.700 David Lamedi is in at justice.

00:11:08.980 And Jody Wilson-Raybould is out.

00:11:11.200 And I think that bodes well for the next story that I'm talking about today with someone

00:11:15.700 I'm very excited to talk to.

00:11:17.880 He's a former colleague that I've never actually met in person or talked to in person.

00:11:22.320 And he's also a fellow with the True North Initiative.

00:11:25.720 Joining me now is Andrew Lawton.

00:11:27.720 Hey, Andrew, thanks for joining me.

00:11:29.500 Hey, it's good to be with you.

00:11:30.340 I thought you were about to introduce someone else when you said you were excited to talk

00:11:33.240 to your next guest.

00:11:34.360 I'm very honoured in that case.

00:11:36.000 I'll be at surprise.

00:11:36.800 But thank you.

00:11:37.320 Well, I think you're great.

00:11:40.740 Now, I wanted to talk to you about a video that you just did regarding a self-defense

00:11:47.780 crime, I guess, in Canada, which in Canada, defending ourselves can be criminalized.

00:11:55.400 Why don't you tell us a little bit about it?

00:11:56.940 Yeah, so this case actually takes place closer to your neck of the woods in Saskatchewan, actually,

00:12:02.560 Wayburn, where a 23-year-old named Keegan Muxlow has been charged with second-degree murder

00:12:08.560 after he shot at and ultimately killed one of three home invaders.

00:12:14.700 So three young guys were breaking into his home.

00:12:17.400 They themselves were armed with at least a shotgun, but there may have been other weapons

00:12:21.500 as well.

00:12:21.980 And he had a .22 gun that he used to defend himself and defend his property, and ultimately

00:12:28.740 one of the three home invaders died.

00:12:31.320 And while the two living home invaders allegedly have been charged, Mr. Muxlow has also been

00:12:38.000 charged with second-degree murder.

00:12:39.940 And even though he was doing what the criminal code specifies is allowed, which is defending

00:12:45.500 yourself with reasonable force.

00:12:47.360 They charged him with second-degree murder.

00:12:52.540 Why do you think they charged him with something that was so—like, this feels overcharged to

00:12:58.180 me.

00:12:58.640 This feels like there are other charges that they could have tried to stick him with.

00:13:02.840 For example, Eddie Maurice here in Alberta, although the charges were dropped against him

00:13:08.080 for doing something similar, he winged a home invader in the arm, and he was charged with aggravated

00:13:15.220 assault and careless use of a firearm.

00:13:17.160 Now, thank God those charges were dropped.

00:13:19.540 But this just feels like they're overcharging him for defending his life.

00:13:24.080 Well, self-defense cases in Canada, while supposedly legal, oftentimes flip the burden of proof onto

00:13:31.860 the person who defended themselves.

00:13:33.820 And this is something we've seen in a number of cases, where even though you're ultimately

00:13:37.980 acquitted, you have to go through the trial and the ordeal and the tens of thousands of

00:13:44.580 dollars to defend yourself to prove that you are, in fact, innocent.

00:13:48.600 And the one case that comes to mind is that of a man in Port Colborne, Ontario, a very well-known

00:13:53.160 case now a few years ago, who had his home firebombed with Molotov cocktails.

00:13:57.840 He fired a warning shot and was ultimately charged because the police assumed that, oh, well,

00:14:03.520 there's no way he could have gotten his gun unless he was storing it illegally and shooting

00:14:07.260 it was careless and all of that.

00:14:09.160 Now, the one thing that is important to note about this case is that it may well be that

00:14:14.000 the man who's been charged with second-degree murder was undesirable.

00:14:17.120 We know that a lot of home invasions take place in situations that most people would not

00:14:22.300 themselves want to be in, where you have crime relationships, a lot of stuff like that.

00:14:27.340 I don't have any rationale that suggests this particular case is one of those.

00:14:32.980 I'm just saying that's the possibility.

00:14:35.080 And we do know that the intruders were known to the person who shot back.

00:14:39.460 So there may well have been other things going on here.

00:14:42.180 We also know that the firearm he used to defend himself was illegally owned.

00:14:46.620 And my position on this is that police were right to charge him with having an unlawful

00:14:51.820 gun.

00:14:52.180 They were right to charge him with careless storage.

00:14:54.160 But when you chip away at the self-defense right, even if there are all of these other

00:14:59.420 mitigating factors, you're taking aim at a right that ultimately you and I may need to

00:15:04.600 at some point in our lives rely on.

00:15:06.560 And I know you live out in a rural area.

00:15:08.640 People in the city don't realize that you defending yourself is in rural parts of the country the

00:15:13.940 only way you will have any help.

00:15:16.300 And it's easy for these people in these Toronto condos to talk about how terrible guns are.

00:15:21.520 But quite frankly, police do not have the response time in places like where this took place.

00:15:27.380 Right.

00:15:27.600 Where I am, the police are half an hour away when seconds count.

00:15:31.940 Now, you did mention that the firearm was unlicensed.

00:15:35.240 I'm a firearms owner.

00:15:37.300 As am I.

00:15:37.720 Yep.

00:15:38.120 Yep.

00:15:38.620 And, you know, we we followed the law.

00:15:40.580 We know the law in some instances even better than the police.

00:15:44.560 But it feels as though a lot of people are making the argument that you cannot save your

00:15:49.600 own life if you don't have a piece of plastic from an RCMP bureaucrat in Miramichi.

00:15:55.280 And I think that's problematic.

00:15:57.720 I worry that this person.

00:16:00.220 Here's my problem.

00:16:01.460 I think that they probably overcharged him because he used a gun.

00:16:05.500 I wonder if he would not have been charged quite as harshly if he had used a baseball

00:16:13.200 bat or a pipe to stop these people from coming into his home.

00:16:17.100 I think there's a strong anti-gun bias in all of this.

00:16:19.860 But you're the guy following the story.

00:16:21.640 What do you think?

00:16:22.800 No, I think you're very much correct.

00:16:24.460 There's an anti-gun bias in police.

00:16:27.420 There's an anti-gun bias in the media.

00:16:29.540 And there's an anti-gun bias certainly in the halls of power in provincial legislatures

00:16:35.820 and the federal government.

00:16:37.760 And you mentioned the changeover at the top of the segment here of the attorney general.

00:16:41.940 Now someone else who I don't know much about.

00:16:44.360 I'm assuming that the government's approach on guns, which is mostly being spearheaded

00:16:48.680 by Ralph Goodale as public safety minister, will probably be pretty similar.

00:16:53.220 But we don't realize necessarily as average Canadians that a lot of these decisions as

00:16:58.800 to whether or not someone is going to be charged come down to attorneys general, not

00:17:03.200 to the letter of the law.

00:17:04.540 So it may well be in this case that the Saskatchewan attorney general should make a determination

00:17:09.160 here or perhaps did make a determination.

00:17:11.680 We don't know.

00:17:12.760 But the fact of the matter is, regardless of whether a gun is legally or illegally owned,

00:17:18.640 you have a right to defend yourself.

00:17:20.620 And the defense does not specify tools.

00:17:23.780 The defense laws in Canada specify it has to be a reasonable amount of force, which means

00:17:29.080 if someone is coming at you with a Bic pen, you're probably not right to take an AR-15 0.99

00:17:34.600 and pop 20 rounds into them.

00:17:36.420 If someone is coming at you with a gun, you're justified to use a gun.

00:17:40.340 And it's not that it needs to be matched, it's that it needs to be proportionate.

00:17:43.880 And there's no doubt that when someone, three people actually come into your home with a 0.64

00:17:47.620 shotgun, you using a gun is legal.

00:17:50.780 And it's important to note we're talking about a .22 caliber, which for people who aren't

00:17:54.800 familiar with firearms, is pretty much the gun you'd use to go and hit a squirrel.

00:17:58.700 And even then, the squirrel might have a fighting chance.

00:18:00.800 My 12-year-old daughter has one, just for context.

00:18:03.420 And I've got them as well, they're great guns, but they're not the guns that, you know, the

00:18:08.400 badass gangsters are walking around with in Toronto.

00:18:11.280 So the fact remains that this is not someone who used a disproportionate amount of force

00:18:17.500 to defend himself.

00:18:18.440 Yeah, and, you know, you brought up Ian Thompson.

00:18:23.080 He's the Ontario firearms owner who was charged.

00:18:28.500 And really, he was put through the ringer because people firebombed his house and he fired some

00:18:34.700 warning shots.

00:18:35.860 It took three years for him to finally be acquitted on all charges.

00:18:41.680 In Alberta here, Eddie Maurice, it took nearly five months after he winged a home invader who

00:18:49.200 came onto his property while he was home alone with his baby daughter.

00:18:54.540 And even Gerald Stanley in, again, in Saskatchewan, he shot and killed a home invader.

00:19:02.600 His wife was punched in the face.

00:19:04.260 They attempted to steal his vehicle.

00:19:05.740 These are people who are, by and large, rural folks, and the government is truly asking them

00:19:13.540 to assume the benevolence of home invaders.

00:19:16.520 Oh, they're just there to have a peek around inside your vehicle and not possibly rape your 0.99

00:19:21.400 wife, murder you in front of her. 1.00

00:19:24.420 And in the end, the process really becomes the punishment. 1.00

00:19:28.900 These people are left financially ruined.

00:19:31.220 Their reputation is in tatters.

00:19:33.080 And they really have to put their lives back together after the government has really destroyed

00:19:38.380 them simply because they assumed the worst, the way we tell everybody to do.

00:19:43.560 We tell everybody, assume the worst to save your own life.

00:19:47.560 And yet when rural folks do it, it becomes something that ends up being a chargeable matter.

00:19:54.020 Yeah, it does.

00:19:54.660 And I'm glad you mentioned the Stanley case and the Maurice case, because this is not an isolated

00:19:59.200 incident.

00:19:59.680 And obviously, in a country as large as Canada, there are going to be individual cases where

00:20:04.580 maybe police overstepped or a court got it wrong.

00:20:07.820 But this is, generally speaking, something we see in a sequence in Canada.

00:20:11.840 And I know that the McKenzie Institute has done a lot of research on this.

00:20:15.280 And one report that I cited in my video actually looks at the fact that despite the clarity in

00:20:21.300 the criminal code that self-defense is allowed, in judicial rulings, that clarity hasn't always

00:20:26.040 been there.

00:20:26.600 So sometimes courts will not side on self-defense.

00:20:30.780 And it's not just about guns, by the way.

00:20:32.860 There was another case, and I can't remember the name, unfortunately, but a Chinese restaurant

00:20:37.220 owner in Toronto or an Indian restaurant owner who used-

00:20:40.300 Lucky Moose?

00:20:40.960 Yes, that was it, who used spices to defend himself.

00:20:43.900 So not even a gun.

00:20:45.120 I think it was like garam masala he threw at the invader's face.

00:20:49.900 And then he got charged with administering a noxious substance.

00:20:52.960 And, I mean, garam masala might not be your thing, but noxious it isn't.

00:20:57.760 And this is, again, something where defending yourself, even if you're ultimately exonerated,

00:21:03.060 the process becomes the punishment.

00:21:05.180 And, you know, in civil cases, Sheila, we have in many jurisdictions, including my province

00:21:10.200 of Ontario, anti-slap laws, which means that if someone files a lawsuit against you that's

00:21:15.700 a nuisance lawsuit, you can get it dismissed right out of the gate if it falls into that category,

00:21:20.940 because the anti-slap law says that this doesn't belong in the courts.

00:21:26.020 And self-defense needs to be treated very similarly, where you should be able to get

00:21:29.920 these things dismissed very early on by saying right out of the gate, look, it's clearly

00:21:34.640 self-defense.

00:21:35.640 I want this dismissed.

00:21:37.000 And in this case, the case has been adjourned.

00:21:39.060 That hasn't happened.

00:21:40.440 He may find himself having to defend himself on trial for doing what anyone in a situation

00:21:46.360 like that would have done.

00:21:47.620 You know, and I'm happy to see that Jody Wilson-Raybould was shuffled out of her position 0.99

00:21:55.200 at justice.

00:21:56.040 Now, like you pointed out, we don't know anything really about David Lamedi, who's coming into

00:22:00.520 justice, just that he was a law professor.

00:22:03.640 So maybe that's good.

00:22:05.520 Maybe it's not professors.

00:22:07.540 Am I right?

00:22:08.060 But Jody Wilson-Raybould has a history of expressing her own bias, especially when it

00:22:15.800 comes to this exact sort of case.

00:22:19.100 I'm just going to have a peek here on my computer, because after Gerald Stanley was acquitted of

00:22:25.720 shooting Colton Boushey, she weighed in and said, my thoughts are with the family of Colton

00:22:33.540 Boushey tonight.

00:22:34.400 I truly feel your pain and hear all of your voices.

00:22:38.040 As a country, we can and must do better.

00:22:40.740 I am committed to working every day to ensure justice for all Canadians, which implies that

00:22:45.060 justice was not served.

00:22:46.380 And that's just her personal opinion.

00:22:48.300 I would argue that justice was absolutely served, especially for the Stanley family, who were

00:22:54.100 really just hammered.

00:22:56.220 Their lives were destroyed because they didn't allow themselves to be victimized that day.

00:23:00.880 Yes, and I think that when we look at the broader context here, this is a civil liberties

00:23:07.440 issue.

00:23:08.280 Yes.

00:23:08.480 The self-defense is a civil liberty, just as being able to drive down the street without

00:23:12.280 police demanding a breath test for no reason is a civil liberty.

00:23:15.500 And this particular government has shown itself to not really be all that interested in protecting

00:23:21.000 civil liberties, which is quite a shame for two reasons, Sheila.

00:23:24.980 You know, as a Canadian, it's shameful because it's supposed to be a free country where these

00:23:29.400 fundamental freedoms are protected.

00:23:31.440 But it also is a bold departure from what the liberals used to typically get right.

00:23:36.340 The liberal party federally has always been the party that has typically been more likely

00:23:40.820 to stand up against overzealous policing and the party that's been more likely to stand

00:23:46.000 up for people whose rights are being violated by law enforcement.

00:23:49.680 But now there's been a flip there.

00:23:51.340 And you have the conservatives are the only party that's really standing up on these issues.

00:23:55.520 And the liberals are happy to embrace these police state type policies, where for one,

00:24:01.080 if you're shooting yourself or shooting someone in self-defense, you have to prove your innocence.

00:24:06.360 And where anyone driving down the road at any time, anyone who's sitting in their home,

00:24:10.620 if they drove in the last two hours, can be subjected to a breathalyzer.

00:24:14.820 I mean, these are not good stories for anyone who's interested in charter freedoms.

00:24:19.900 You know, that's such a fantastic point to make to link this to the liberals new breathalyzer

00:24:27.480 laws that even after you've been sitting in your house for two hours, they can knock on

00:24:31.320 your door and demand a breathalyzer.

00:24:33.700 Now, I would I think this is because somewhere along the line, the liberals have made this switch

00:24:40.040 from caring about liberal values to being the proponents of larger government.

00:24:45.560 And I think especially with people like myself, who I don't have the luxury of outsourcing

00:24:54.520 my protection and my personal safety to the government and to the police.

00:24:59.200 And I think the liberal government resents that.

00:25:04.340 Yes, because government never wants to legislate itself out of business.

00:25:08.120 So when you have governments that are going after people defending themselves, they don't

00:25:13.340 want word to get around that you can do a better job with your nine millimeter.

00:25:17.160 Heck, you can do a better job with a 22 than apparently the RCMP can.

00:25:21.500 And government doesn't want that getting around.

00:25:23.680 Like, look, I just got last week an SKS, which for people who follow firearms is this really

00:25:29.460 like terribly made but really cool looking and fun to shoot Soviet surplus gun.

00:25:34.520 And these are very popular and very powerful, relatively speaking, as far as non-restricted

00:25:39.820 rifles go.

00:25:43.640 And these things are getting sold to people for $200, $250 because they're so popular.

00:25:46.880 And anyone can do a better job, if you live in a rural area, protecting yourself with the

00:25:51.380 $250 Soviet gun than a call to 911 will protect you in some of these parts. 0.54

00:25:57.980 And this is not an indictment of police, by the way, by and large, because quite frankly,

00:26:03.000 it is not meant for the rural parts of the country to be connected.

00:26:07.660 Police are never going to be a block away or two blocks away like they're supposed to

00:26:11.860 be in cities.

00:26:13.060 So you have an obligation and a right if you are in one of those parts of the country to

00:26:19.100 protect yourself.

00:26:19.980 But government doesn't want that to happen.

00:26:22.680 And there's a broader issue here in that the government doesn't really care about life

00:26:27.420 outside of city life all that much.

00:26:29.200 And this has been, I think, pretty clear in terms of the Liberals voting coalition.

00:26:33.560 They get their support from Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Ottawa, and all of these urban centers.

00:26:39.620 And if you live in Weyburn, Saskatchewan, if you live in Fort McMurray, if you live in

00:26:44.080 these parts, you're not part of the group that they care about.

00:26:47.180 So they want to make sure that these people are told self-defense is not really a Canadian

00:26:51.780 value because they don't want people in Toronto and Ottawa and Vancouver to think that they

00:26:56.220 can do a better job than the police can.

00:26:57.920 You know, and if I were in Toronto these days, I'd be pretty interested in finding new and

00:27:06.040 exciting ways to defend my own safety because they've got a real rash of gang violence on

00:27:11.440 their hands and they don't know what to do with it.

00:27:13.300 I do think it has been a calculated risk taken by the Liberals to deal with personal defense

00:27:24.300 and gun rights, as we've seen lately, in the way that they have, because they've all

00:27:30.260 but written off rural Canada.

00:27:32.080 They've all but written off, you know, the parts of the country that do own firearms for

00:27:36.960 self-defense or fun.

00:27:40.520 There's nothing in it for them to lose if they proceed with these bad gun policies.

00:27:46.360 Yeah.

00:27:46.920 And I want to be clear here that this is not something that we can draw a line to the liberal

00:27:51.160 government on.

00:27:51.900 I mean, these issues with police laying charges against people that have defended themselves

00:27:56.160 is a longer standing problem.

00:27:58.020 Yes.

00:27:58.340 But we want a government.

00:28:00.300 I certainly want a government that's going to stand firm.

00:28:02.780 And not that I put much power into Twitter, but if Jody Wilson-Raybould sent out a tweet

00:28:07.780 about the Colton Bushy case, where's the tweet now of, you know what, self-defense is important.

00:28:12.000 I think we as a country need to make a better point of that.

00:28:14.640 And the government may not be responsible for the charge, but the government could be responsible

00:28:19.360 for a solution.

00:28:20.260 And I'm not seeing that.

00:28:21.900 Right.

00:28:22.460 And, you know, I do want to make it clear.

00:28:24.520 I'm pro-police.

00:28:26.120 I'm as pro-police as they come.

00:28:28.220 The police's bosses, not so much.

00:28:30.760 They are usually politically invested bureaucrat types making decisions for the boots on the

00:28:39.920 ground cops somewhere in a cubicle in Ottawa.

00:28:42.640 And they really don't have to deal with how the police have to enforce these laws in the

00:28:48.840 communities in which they work.

00:28:50.060 I generally think rural police are pretty freedom loving and they know the constraints

00:28:55.880 with which they have to work.

00:28:57.120 And I just want to be clear.

00:28:59.240 There are no better public servants, I think, than the RCMP who serve rural Canada.

00:29:06.300 And I think it's a real shame that they are forced through bureaucratic decisions to lay

00:29:11.500 these charges that I think a lot of them are resistant to lay.

00:29:14.620 Yeah, like I said earlier, I mean, a lot of these really contentious charges go up to the

00:29:19.280 attorney general.

00:29:20.300 And this is when it's politicians who take the power out of the hands of police.

00:29:25.180 And typically that's when the problems are going to come.

00:29:27.980 So I agree with you that the boots on the ground are tremendous.

00:29:31.220 I mean, they put their lives in harm's way every day.

00:29:33.620 And they need to be equipped to deal with these situations.

00:29:36.900 And there needs to be an understanding because the local detachment of Weyburn, Saskatchewan,

00:29:42.840 the guys and ladies who work there know that they're not getting to a house in minutes. 0.92

00:29:48.200 They know they're not getting to a house in seconds.

00:29:50.200 They know that.

00:29:51.340 And I've spoken to police officers who are aware of that.

00:29:54.140 And they wish there was actually a better job at communicating those expectations in

00:29:58.620 areas, which would mean standing up and clarifying where self-defense rights really are.

00:30:04.660 Well, Andrew, I want to thank you for coming on the show today.

00:30:06.980 And I know that you'll probably be following this story right through to the end, which means

00:30:10.380 that we'll be obviously checking back in with you as this story develops.

00:30:15.360 I want to give you a chance to let everybody know where they can find some of your tremendous

00:30:19.600 work.

00:30:19.980 Yeah, so lots of my work is at the website that I have, andrewlaughton.ca.

00:30:25.880 And of course, I'm a fellow at True North, which means all of my videos and commentaries

00:30:30.440 on issues like this can be found there.

00:30:32.840 So True North on Facebook or online at www.truenorthinitiative.com.

00:30:39.340 Awesome, Andrew.

00:30:40.140 Thank you.

00:30:40.960 I'm just sorry that it took this long to talk to you.

00:30:44.220 And I hope we can talk again.

00:30:45.900 Yeah, anytime, Sheila.

00:30:46.880 Thank you.

00:30:47.220 Stay with us.

00:30:48.340 More up next after the break.

00:30:49.980 Now, usually this is, of course, the portion of the show where Ezra gives his closing remarks,

00:31:05.600 he reads some viewer feedback, and maybe even a little hate mail now and then.

00:31:10.200 But since I'm in charge today, I'm doing something a little bit different.

00:31:14.960 I want to give you a heads up about a brand new project by my friend and rebel colleague

00:31:21.440 from Calgary, Kian Bexty.

00:31:23.960 Kian is doing this incredible piece of journalism, of cataloging.

00:31:28.780 And I think it's absolutely necessary.

00:31:31.300 Kian's going through the NDP extremists in Alberta one by one to maybe help you learn something

00:31:38.440 new about them or maybe just refresh your memory about exactly who they are, because you know

00:31:44.260 the mainstream media isn't going to do this work.

00:31:47.540 And even if they did, they wouldn't tell you.

00:31:49.680 Kian's series is called Meet Your Destroyers, and he's already knocked off two of them. 0.99

00:31:56.240 The first one details the comical communist lover NDP MLA, Rod Loyola, who is quite literally

00:32:01.640 the full hammer and sickle.

00:32:04.160 And Kian's second story was detailing how the CBC whitewashed an NDP candidate named Anne

00:32:10.920 McGrath, who has run for public office under the communist flag before.

00:32:17.100 What Kian is doing, and hopefully I can jump in and help him a little bit when I can, is

00:32:22.320 chronicling exactly who the NDP are, the radicals.

00:32:26.480 They not only allow into their party, but have embraced as thought leaders within their party.

00:32:32.400 You'll see a level of scrutiny for these candidates that the mainstream media just absolutely refuses

00:32:38.980 to do.

00:32:39.480 We're looking past the polished matronly smile of Rachel Notley to the dark collectivist underbelly

00:32:46.400 of the NDP.

00:32:47.820 I think it's valuable work and valuable information for Alberta voters as we approach a springtime

00:32:54.240 election.

00:32:55.340 You can find all of Kian's work on this project at a dedicated website called albertasdestroyers.com.

00:33:04.020 Well everybody, that's the show for tonight.

00:33:06.660 Thanks so much for tuning in as I fill in for the boss.

00:33:11.200 And remember, don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

Rebel News Podcast - January 16, 2019

Trudeau shuffles his cabinet of incompetent cronies (Guest host： Sheila Gunn Reid)

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