Rebel News Podcast - Trudeau WANTS to lose NAFTA — so he can blame Trump in the next election

00:00:00.000 Tonight, the NAFTA negotiations just keep getting weirder.

00:00:03.920 It's September 5th, and you're watching The Ezra Levant Show.

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00:00:30.000 Today looks like it's going to be an important day for Canada

00:00:36.420 trying to negotiate our way into the new trade deal

00:00:39.380 between the United States and Mexico,

00:00:41.100 a successor trade deal to the NAFTA treaty

00:00:44.300 that Trump has officially served notice that he's canceling.

00:00:47.640 I'm recording this video before the full day's negotiations are done,

00:00:51.000 but I'm pessimistic anything will be announced tonight.

00:00:53.940 Take a look at this new statement by Justin Trudeau.

00:00:57.040 We have made it very, very clear that the cultural exemption must stand as part of any renegotiated NAFTA.

00:01:04.560 It is inconceivable to Canadians that an American network might buy Canadian media affiliates,

00:01:11.260 whether it's newspaper or TV stations or TV networks.

00:01:14.820 It would be a giving up of our sovereignty and our identity.

00:01:20.000 And that is something that we simply will not accept.

00:01:22.960 So we've made it very clear that defending that cultural exemption is something that is fundamental to Canadians.

00:01:30.160 And again, we will not sign a deal that is bad for Canada.

00:01:33.820 And quite frankly, eliminating a cultural exemption would be bad for Canadians.

00:01:40.680 Where did that come from?

00:01:41.720 That's a new objection, isn't it?

00:01:43.860 Wasn't he digging in on the dairy cartel before?

00:01:47.780 And a dispute resolution mechanism?

00:01:50.620 Where did this cultural industry's objection come from?

00:01:53.140 And why now?

00:01:55.040 So late in the negotiation.

00:01:56.340 And why negotiate in public?

00:01:58.460 Isn't that specifically what Chrystia Freeland said just last week,

00:02:01.360 that Canada wasn't going to do?

00:02:03.620 So when it comes to specific issues that we've been discussing

00:02:07.060 and the specific progress that we're making,

00:02:09.740 this, as everyone knows, is an extremely intense period in the negotiation.

00:02:16.360 And Ambassador Lighthizer and I have agreed

00:02:18.920 that the best way to make progress is not to be negotiating in public.

00:02:26.260 But can I show you that Trudeau clip just one more time?

00:02:28.760 Take a look.

00:02:29.060 We have made it very, very clear that the cultural exemption

00:02:33.000 must stand as part of any renegotiated NAFTA.

00:02:36.820 It is inconceivable to Canadians that an American network

00:02:39.960 might buy Canadian media affiliates,

00:02:43.500 whether it's newspaper or TV stations or TV networks.

00:02:47.480 It would be a giving up of our sovereignty and our identity.

00:02:52.220 And that is something that we simply will not accept.

00:02:55.000 So we've made it very clear that defending that cultural exemption

00:02:59.060 is something that is fundamental to Canadians.

00:03:02.520 And again, we will not sign a deal that is bad for Canada.

00:03:06.420 And quite frankly, eliminating a cultural exemption

00:03:10.260 would be bad for Canadians.

00:03:12.760 What does that even mean?

00:03:14.340 It's inconceivable that American companies could own a Canadian newspaper?

00:03:19.080 Inconceivable?

00:03:23.080 You've got very good arms.

00:03:26.800 He didn't follow?

00:03:29.280 Inconceivable!

00:03:30.800 You keep using that word.

00:03:32.660 I don't think it means what you think it means.

00:03:36.360 Inconceivable?

00:03:37.620 Actually, most Canadian newspapers already are owned by Americans.

00:03:44.300 Post Media?

00:03:45.920 Their bondholders are all New York-based hedge fund managers.

00:03:49.860 Post Media?

00:03:51.040 That's the National Post, the Calgary Herald, the Edmonton Journal,

00:03:53.280 Vancouver Sun, Montreal Gazette,

00:03:55.160 the papers in Regina and Saskatoon,

00:03:57.780 the entire Toronto Sun chain of newspapers, 92 weekly newspapers.

00:04:02.140 Most Canadian newspapers are owned by Americans.

00:04:05.040 So what's he talking about?

00:04:08.800 Most big online media in Canada is foreign-owned, too.

00:04:13.060 BuzzFeed, Canada, Huffington Post, Canada, Vice, Canada.

00:04:18.300 They're all American.

00:04:20.320 And on the TV side, well, obviously more Canadians watch CNN for cable news

00:04:24.980 than watch CBC News Channel or CTV News Channel.

00:04:28.040 And all the big shows we watch on the main networks

00:04:30.800 are just American shows made in Hollywood or New York.

00:04:33.040 I'm not sure what Trudeau's talking about other than, obviously, his beloved CBC

00:04:41.700 and maybe a few other smaller handouts like that.

00:04:44.960 I mean, the Canadian magazine industry, it's almost dead.

00:04:48.740 McLean's magazine barely even publishes anymore.

00:04:51.800 I think their entire staff is just a half dozen people

00:04:54.220 from what used to be Canada's mightiest news magazine.

00:04:56.920 I don't know if you saw this news.

00:04:58.100 They're all for sale.

00:05:00.020 All the Canadian magazines, Canadian Business, Hello Canada, Money Sense, Flair, Chatelaine, McLean's,

00:05:06.760 all the Rogers magazines, they're being dumped.

00:05:10.420 So what's Trudeau even talking about?

00:05:12.720 Inconceivable!

00:05:14.000 Well, who knows what Trudeau's talking about?

00:05:15.720 I don't even think Trudeau really knows what he's talking about, as usual.

00:05:18.980 And believe it or not, in this case, that's the point.

00:05:22.040 He's just throwing up patriotic-sounding objections to a trade deal

00:05:25.680 so that when, not if, but when, Trudeau fails to get us into NAFTA,

00:05:30.900 he can claim he meant to do that.

00:05:33.220 I showed you a clip from the Princess Bride movie.

00:05:35.760 Here's another old-time clip that fits.

00:05:38.100 I meant to do that.

00:05:48.460 Yeah, sure you did.

00:05:49.900 You meant to screw up the NAFTA deal.

00:05:51.800 Here's Arlene Dickinson from the CBC, who writes,

00:05:55.580 I love how suddenly everyone is a far smarter and better negotiator

00:05:59.620 than Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland.

00:06:01.800 This is five-level chess, not checkers.

00:06:05.600 Like it or not, they represent us,

00:06:07.100 and this is about showing strength as a nation for our nation.

00:06:10.420 Stand tall, Canada, stand tall.

00:06:13.380 Sure, lady, 5D chess.

00:06:16.000 That's what's going on in Trudeau's mind.

00:06:19.800 I guess the India fiasco, that was just 3D chess. 0.99

00:06:23.640 You may think it looked dumb, but it was sort of double smart.

00:06:28.340 That's all.

00:06:29.720 And that Saudi fiasco, that's 4D chess. 0.61

00:06:33.800 It's brilliant.

00:06:34.820 Don't be so superficial in thinking it backfired.

00:06:38.320 And getting booted out of NAFTA, but the Mexicans staying in, 0.98

00:06:42.600 that's 5D chess.

00:06:45.040 Just like this disastrous Trans Mountain Pipeline court ruling

00:06:48.280 that literally banned the pipeline from proceeding.

00:06:53.880 Construction has stopped.

00:06:55.360 In the words of Bill Morneau, the finance minister,

00:06:58.440 that's an important step forward.

00:07:01.480 Taken together, today's decisions from the Federal Court of Appeal

00:07:04.760 and from Kinder Morgan shareholders

00:07:06.660 are important next steps in getting this project built

00:07:10.400 in the right way for the benefit of all Canadians.

00:07:13.300 Hey guys, did you know that a court order banning construction

00:07:17.000 is an important step in construction?

00:07:20.240 Well, the CBC sure seems to think so.

00:07:22.640 They become a parody of themselves.

00:07:24.700 Let me show you the latest from just this morning.

00:07:28.600 NAFTA talks resume as questions grow

00:07:31.000 about Trump's ability to deliver.

00:07:33.900 Trump's ability!

00:07:35.080 Did you know that that's what's in question here?

00:07:37.060 Here, let me read a little bit more from the story.

00:07:38.360 Canada returns to the NAFTA table in Washington Wednesday

00:07:42.160 after a four-day break in negotiations

00:07:44.220 that appeared to be pretty stressful

00:07:46.400 for the American side.

00:07:49.640 The Trump administration's failure to secure a deal

00:07:52.540 before last Friday wasn't well received

00:07:54.240 by key voices in Congress

00:07:56.120 where NAFTA's fate ultimately will be decided.

00:07:59.340 By the end of the weekend,

00:08:00.600 the White House seemed to have fallen out with an ally

00:08:03.480 it had hoped would back a revised NAFTA,

00:08:05.740 a union representing millions of working-class Americans

00:08:08.700 now souring on President Trump's ability to deliver.

00:08:13.100 Hey, do you think any of that's true?

00:08:16.300 Do you think Donald Trump is stressed out about NAFTA?

00:08:20.880 Especially now that Chrystia Freeland's in town. 0.77

00:08:24.080 Do you think he even knows she's in town?

00:08:27.800 Here's the letter that Donald Trump sent to Congress.

00:08:31.100 It was sent on August 31st.

00:08:33.280 It's not going to be sent or will be sent.

00:08:34.900 It has been sent.

00:08:36.420 And it has let Congress know

00:08:38.380 that he does have a new deal with Mexico.

00:08:41.200 And I don't know if you can see the words there.

00:08:44.120 With Canada, if it is willing.

00:08:47.360 So the deal's with Mexico, 0.98

00:08:48.740 but he's saying Canada can join

00:08:50.320 if we choose to join them.

00:08:52.940 But he's proceeding as if we won't.

00:08:55.240 It's true that in the U.S., Congress has to approve any new trade treaty.

00:09:00.580 So it is technically true that Congress could block Mexico's deal with Trump

00:09:06.460 if they wanted to.

00:09:09.120 Do you think that's likely to happen?

00:09:12.040 Do you think that a deal that forces Mexico

00:09:15.220 to limit the amount of cheap Chinese parts in their factories,

00:09:19.440 like their auto factories,

00:09:20.960 that requires a high minimum wage in Mexican auto factories,

00:09:24.280 that now levels the playing field between Mexican factories 0.78

00:09:27.780 in terms of labor standards, environmental standards,

00:09:31.340 labels, levels the playing field with American factories,

00:09:34.140 do you think that's going to be blocked by congressmen,

00:09:38.380 either Republican or Democrat?

00:09:40.780 Can you imagine?

00:09:41.680 You're running as a Democrat for Congress this fall

00:09:44.780 in the 2018 midterm elections a few months away,

00:09:47.460 and you're running in those battleground states,

00:09:49.800 Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, the Rust Belt.

00:09:52.100 Can you imagine saying you're against Trump's deal with Mexico,

00:09:57.080 that you prefer no deal with Mexico,

00:10:00.300 you prefer NAFTA with cheap Mexican goods

00:10:04.120 just flooding into America?

00:10:06.320 I'm sorry, I just don't see it,

00:10:07.620 but maybe it takes getting $1.5 billion a year from Trudeau,

00:10:11.620 as the CBC gets,

00:10:13.020 before you can see how amazing a negotiator he is or something.

00:10:19.040 The CBC is right.

00:10:20.160 But Congress could kill Trump's new deal with Mexico.

00:10:24.580 I think it's going to pass overwhelmingly by both parties,

00:10:27.480 but hey, if that little hope gets you through the night,

00:10:30.660 hold on to it tight,

00:10:31.640 because Congress can stop a deal,

00:10:33.260 but how do they get Canada into a deal?

00:10:37.980 The CBC hasn't figured that part out yet.

00:10:40.380 I think Canada's in a bad place.

00:10:42.240 Actually, Chrystia Freeland's first response

00:10:43.920 to Mexico signing a deal with Trump

00:10:46.300 was that, well, obviously Mexico got ripped off,

00:10:49.320 and obviously it wasn't a very good deal.

00:10:52.120 You know, Aesop wrote a fable about that called Sour Grapes.

00:10:54.520 You know, if the fox can't reach the grapes he was trying to get,

00:10:58.700 well, they were probably sour.

00:11:00.140 He probably didn't want them after all.

00:11:02.700 Freeland, who doesn't have a deal,

00:11:05.120 who wants a deal,

00:11:07.120 says Mexico, who have a deal,

00:11:10.420 they don't have a good deal.

00:11:12.060 Remember this?

00:11:12.600 Mexico has made some significant concessions,

00:11:16.720 particularly in the area of labor

00:11:20.060 and of rules of origin on cars.

00:11:23.100 I don't believe that.

00:11:24.600 And neither does Mexico, obviously.

00:11:26.200 I don't know if you know this.

00:11:27.180 I mentioned it the other day.

00:11:29.160 Both leading political parties in Mexico

00:11:31.700 actually negotiated the deal together.

00:11:34.000 Isn't that funny?

00:11:35.420 Both the outgoing party and the incoming party,

00:11:38.980 because they had an election,

00:11:40.020 but the new president hasn't taken over yet.

00:11:42.100 So it's pretty much unanimous in Mexico

00:11:45.620 that they got a good deal.

00:11:47.320 Both parties are celebrating the deal.

00:11:49.980 And more than that, it gives Mexico certainty,

00:11:53.140 after all of Trump's anti-Mexican bluster.

00:11:56.580 But Chrystia Freeland knows better.

00:11:58.100 I mean, she's so plugged in, obviously.

00:12:00.880 As I told you last week,

00:12:01.920 you know, the Mexican foreign minister

00:12:03.060 has visited the White House 45 times

00:12:05.320 and visited Jared Kushner's personal house 10 times.

00:12:08.980 That's Trump's son-in-law to get this deal.

00:12:11.500 But Freeland knows better.

00:12:12.600 It's not a good deal.

00:12:13.680 Now, maybe she's right.

00:12:15.540 Maybe a deal hammered out after 55 meetings

00:12:18.580 that both Mexican political parties love.

00:12:22.400 Maybe Freeland knows better.

00:12:24.340 Maybe Mexico got a really crummy deal.

00:12:28.020 Well, if so, that's not good news for Canada, is it?

00:12:32.220 Because that's the template now.

00:12:33.940 That's the starting point for us now.

00:12:35.320 That's what we're being asked to sign up for now

00:12:37.740 that's already being negotiated by the Mexicans.

00:12:40.300 We have to follow in Mexico's footsteps, I guess. 1.00

00:12:43.580 Because Trudeau took the summer off.

00:12:46.540 Maybe he should have taken fewer personal days.

00:12:48.540 Maybe Chrystia Freeland should have spent more time 1.00

00:12:50.840 working with Trump than bashing Trump,

00:12:53.300 as she did all year in thinly veiled attack speeches. 0.98

00:12:58.040 What irony that the day Trump announced

00:13:00.440 his Mexican trade deal,

00:13:02.600 Freeland was instead in Berlin, Germany,

00:13:04.820 giving another anti-Trump speech to some Europeans.

00:13:08.940 So why this new objection from Trudeau?

00:13:11.020 Why that he won't do a deal if it doesn't protect the CBC?

00:13:15.800 Well, I think that's not an accident.

00:13:17.540 I don't think Trudeau wants a deal.

00:13:19.540 I think he wants to lose NAFTA and blame Trump

00:13:21.720 because it's easier for him to campaign

00:13:23.580 in next year's election against the evil Donald Trump

00:13:27.040 than against any Canadian real rival.

00:13:30.280 Trudeau's back on his original game plan,

00:13:31.760 throwing in poison pills, as they're called in business,

00:13:35.900 little deal breakers,

00:13:37.540 sabotaging things designed to push the Americans away.

00:13:40.840 Last year was gender equity and global warming 0.89

00:13:44.280 and indigenous matters, nothing to do with trade.

00:13:48.320 I mean, feminism and global warming, 1.00

00:13:49.960 those are legitimate issues.

00:13:51.300 Aboriginal issues are legitimate issues. 1.00

00:13:54.120 They're obviously important to Trudeau,

00:13:55.920 but they have nothing to do with NAFTA.

00:13:59.060 They have their own proper forms.

00:14:01.880 I mean, the UN's Global Warming Convention,

00:14:04.620 that's where you go to talk about your carbon taxes.

00:14:07.540 That's not a trade issue.

00:14:08.820 But Trudeau wasted half a year

00:14:10.040 trying to jam them into a NAFTA trade negotiation.

00:14:12.660 Maybe we actually did have 55 meetings with Trump's people,

00:14:16.520 but we just spent them talking about feminism

00:14:18.400 instead of what Mexico did, 0.93

00:14:20.360 getting access to the US market for their auto industry

00:14:23.460 and so many more industries.

00:14:25.320 It wasn't just virtue signaling by Trudeau.

00:14:27.840 I have come to believe that it was Trudeau

00:14:30.100 actually trying to scuttle the deal

00:14:32.460 by putting such bizarre things to the Americans.

00:14:34.960 The CBC is impressed with Trudeau.

00:14:36.400 Oh, they think he's doing great.

00:14:38.560 But I don't think anyone else in the world is.

00:14:41.000 Our Canadian dollar is falling lower and lower and lower.

00:14:45.360 That is the world saying,

00:14:47.140 we think the Canadian economy is overvalued.

00:14:50.420 It won't be as successful tomorrow as it is today.

00:14:53.500 Okay, so get out of Canada with your money.

00:14:56.340 Or if you're the CBC, you could pretend it's good news

00:14:58.840 that a low dollar, you see,

00:15:00.960 makes our economy more competitive, you see,

00:15:03.240 since it's a discount on everything we sell to foreigners.

00:15:06.540 If we had a 50 cent dollar,

00:15:08.740 our stuff would be even cheaper for Americans to buy.

00:15:11.120 That's the Venezuela strategy.

00:15:13.060 That would be great.

00:15:14.240 People would really buy our stuff if we gave it away.

00:15:17.580 We'd only earn half as much for our exports,

00:15:20.040 except, funny enough, oil.

00:15:21.400 That's bought and sold on a global market

00:15:24.220 priced in U.S. dollars.

00:15:25.880 But our dollar is falling,

00:15:27.060 and the Bank of Canada has delayed

00:15:28.480 its announcement on interest rates.

00:15:30.740 So even the Bank of Canada says

00:15:32.440 we are in dangerous territory.

00:15:33.980 So much turns on whether or not Trudeau can get a deal.

00:15:37.240 They're going to wait to tell you

00:15:38.100 what they're going to do with interest rates.

00:15:39.400 But hey, don't worry, guys.

00:15:42.000 The CBC says it's Trump's turn to worry.

00:15:44.500 Justin Trudeau's in charge now, man.

00:15:48.280 The master negotiator.

00:15:50.500 Justin Trudeau, grand diplomat.

00:15:53.340 Justin Trudeau, the consummate business executive.

00:15:57.380 Justin Trudeau, workaholic.

00:16:00.300 Yeah, I'm worried too.

00:16:03.740 Justin Trudeau wants NAFTA to fail

00:16:05.380 so he can campaign against Trump in 2019.

00:16:07.960 I've seen some polling on this issue,

00:16:09.900 and it suggests that is actually

00:16:11.840 an attractive strategy for him.

00:16:13.720 And Canadians don't like Trump.

00:16:16.740 I don't believe it's going to be

00:16:17.960 an attractive strategy.

00:16:18.840 Though right now, asking people

00:16:19.920 what they think of Trump,

00:16:21.220 it's a hypothetical question.

00:16:22.360 It's a fantasy scenario.

00:16:23.800 If we're kicked out of NAFTA,

00:16:25.620 are you mad at Trump?

00:16:27.380 If we actually are kicked out of NAFTA,

00:16:29.720 it's not going to be a hypothetical question.

00:16:32.000 It's going to be having our entire auto industry shut down. 0.96

00:16:35.460 If you shut out our auto sector

00:16:37.780 from the U.S. with a 20% tariff,

00:16:40.360 that's what Trump is threatening.

00:16:41.800 That is 160,000 jobs lost,

00:16:45.740 according to various bank studies.

00:16:47.440 I'm pretty sure those 160,000 families

00:16:50.580 won't understand why Trudeau killed

00:16:53.380 their industry, their private sector,

00:16:55.760 well-paying six-figure job industry.

00:16:58.440 What, to protect some dairy farm millionaires

00:17:00.940 or some cultural industries?

00:17:03.080 That's code for just the CBC.

00:17:05.180 Even if the CBC tells him

00:17:06.400 he's the most brilliant diplomat

00:17:08.080 since Bismarck,

00:17:10.560 I don't think Canadians will buy it.

00:17:14.140 Stay with us for more.

00:17:15.520 Our special guest, Gavin McInnes, is next.

00:17:30.940 Not be it proper at this time.

00:17:35.900 Shut this hearing down.

00:17:37.740 This hearing is an attack on women's rights 0.95

00:17:39.840 and an attack on democracy.

00:17:41.760 Shut this hearing down now. 0.73

00:17:43.760 I urge you to shut this hearing down.

00:17:46.340 I urge you to shut this hearing down.

00:17:47.940 Mr. President, I'm afraid for our democracy.

00:17:50.280 Indeed.

00:17:51.040 The candidates decide to go to it

00:17:53.060 to protect the people.

00:17:54.600 I dissent to the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh.

00:17:57.020 Kavanaugh must not be put on the court.

00:17:59.300 Well, that is an excerpt

00:18:05.820 from the longer, more riotous scene

00:18:08.780 on Capitol Hill yesterday

00:18:10.720 as Brett Kavanaugh, Donald Trump's nominee,

00:18:14.320 the second nominee for the Supreme Court

00:18:16.000 of the United States.

00:18:17.080 It's a new Democrat strategy 0.64

00:18:19.040 of shouting down, blocking, de-platforming

00:18:23.520 even mainstream conservative Republican picks.

00:18:27.660 This, by the way,

00:18:28.520 was not some random organic act.

00:18:31.380 Photos have emerged

00:18:32.260 of protesters literally being paid cash

00:18:34.980 to protest.

00:18:36.820 And the Democratic congressmen themselves

00:18:39.360 have acknowledged

00:18:40.240 that they coordinated in advance

00:18:42.800 with these street teams.

00:18:44.980 My thesis is that this is

00:18:46.920 merely the latest step

00:18:48.600 in the move of the left

00:18:49.500 to de-platform

00:18:51.160 anyone they don't like.

00:18:53.040 That is not to debate,

00:18:54.140 but to shut down.

00:18:55.060 First, they went for Alex Jones.

00:18:58.140 Now, they're coming for friends

00:18:59.300 like Gavin McInnes

00:19:00.480 and his Proud Boys fraternity.

00:19:03.320 Gavin joins us now via Skype

00:19:04.800 from New York.

00:19:05.740 Gavin, great to see you again.

00:19:07.640 Thank you for having me, sir.

00:19:08.800 I think that you were merely an appetizer

00:19:12.920 when you were kicked off Twitter,

00:19:14.700 when your Proud Boys were all kicked off Twitter,

00:19:16.800 when you have been de-platformed,

00:19:18.720 when they pepper-sprayed your face

00:19:20.340 when you went into New York University,

00:19:21.860 when you were,

00:19:24.300 I think the main reason

00:19:25.100 our cruise last year

00:19:26.400 was banned from Norwegian cruise lines,

00:19:28.480 this de-platforming of the right,

00:19:30.460 it's not actually aimed at you, Gavin.

00:19:32.460 It's aimed at anyone

00:19:34.060 who disagrees with the left.

00:19:35.440 You were just the test drive,

00:19:37.920 don't you think?

00:19:39.240 Yes, it's aimed at anyone on the right

00:19:41.560 who might help Trump get re-elected,

00:19:43.360 and that means appealing people

00:19:45.020 who are charming.

00:19:46.180 They're not concerned with Richard Spencer

00:19:48.320 because he has no appeal.

00:19:50.280 They're not concerned with David Duke.

00:19:52.720 They are concerned with funny people

00:19:55.020 who will have rational reasons

00:19:57.160 for their small government pro-Trump beliefs,

00:20:01.080 and it's not working.

00:20:05.020 What's not working?

00:20:06.320 Because I am terrified

00:20:07.740 by how well the de-platforming is working,

00:20:11.660 and I don't mean necessarily people being banned.

00:20:14.240 I mean, like, thrown out of buildings.

00:20:16.620 I'm terrified of the high-tech banning.

00:20:19.180 I mean, you were vaporized on Twitter

00:20:20.900 without warning, explanation, or appeal.

00:20:25.360 Tommy Robinson was kicked off Twitter

00:20:27.680 for the same reason.

00:20:28.820 Alex Jones was kicked off

00:20:29.800 just about every platform on the same day.

00:20:32.040 So I think it is working.

00:20:33.380 That's what scares me about it.

00:20:35.000 No, what's not working

00:20:36.100 is this push to delegitimize Trump

00:20:39.460 and to make people not like him anymore.

00:20:41.640 Trump is getting re-elected, I promise you.

00:20:44.120 And similarly in Canada,

00:20:45.780 Justin Trudeau is trying to censor

00:20:47.620 the mockery of him.

00:20:48.820 That's making him even less appealing.

00:20:50.940 So every time these people do things,

00:20:52.640 yes, it's inconvenient for us.

00:20:54.500 Yes, we need to find a new social media.

00:20:56.800 But our popularity keeps growing.

00:20:59.160 Alex Jones, the day after he was banned,

00:21:01.060 had the number one app on the entire internet.

00:21:04.020 Yeah, you're right.

00:21:05.400 And the thing about Alex Jones

00:21:06.340 is you mentioned a couple of fringe racists.

00:21:08.780 You mentioned Richard Spencer and David Duke.

00:21:10.960 Alex Jones is not a racist, obviously.

00:21:14.700 He engages in conspiracy theories.

00:21:17.660 But the way I see his place

00:21:20.260 in the conservative firmament

00:21:22.540 is he's a uniform.

00:21:27.220 He's an omnipresent skeptic.

00:21:29.780 He's an equal opportunity skeptic.

00:21:33.280 He calls BS on everything.

00:21:35.300 He disputes everything.

00:21:36.640 He doesn't believe anything.

00:21:39.800 Which I think,

00:21:41.340 if you have to be a sucker

00:21:42.480 who believes everything you say from authority,

00:21:45.200 or if you want to be a bit paranoid

00:21:46.800 and challenge anything you hear from authority,

00:21:49.780 these days it's probably better

00:21:51.660 to be a universal skeptic.

00:21:53.620 And does he go too far?

00:21:55.040 Sure.

00:21:55.340 Is it entertaining?

00:21:56.160 You bet.

00:21:56.800 But I believe that his use

00:21:58.980 is that he doesn't believe anything he reads.

00:22:02.680 And he gives airtime to any contrary view.

00:22:07.400 That's why he has a huge viewership,

00:22:10.040 unlike David Duke or Richard Spencer.

00:22:11.980 That's why they want to shut Alex Jones down,

00:22:14.120 because he actually is an important voice,

00:22:16.640 even though I think he goes too far,

00:22:17.980 obviously, on certain matters.

00:22:19.100 He's a little paranoid.

00:22:20.400 But he's a universal skeptic.

00:22:22.980 I think there's two things going on here,

00:22:24.520 and it's funny that you and I are talking about it,

00:22:25.960 because you're more into politics than me,

00:22:28.020 and I'm more into fun than you.

00:22:29.220 But both of those things are why he was banned.

00:22:34.060 He was banned for conspiracy theories,

00:22:35.500 and I agree with you.

00:22:36.500 What the hell's the matter with a conspiracy theory?

00:22:39.180 Watergate was a conspiracy theory before it was true.

00:22:42.120 You know, Vince Foster, then breaking into his office,

00:22:44.140 that was a conspiracy theory before it was confirmed.

00:22:47.160 Conspiring, a theory about conspiring, good.

00:22:50.480 Get some theories about conspiring.

00:22:52.020 I want the government to be under scrutiny.

00:22:53.740 But the second point is the fun.

00:22:55.600 He was hyperbolic.

00:22:56.640 He was screaming, throwing his papers at the camera.

00:22:59.580 He was banging the table.

00:23:00.560 He was ripping his shirt off.

00:23:01.900 He was colorful and fun.

00:23:03.640 He still is, obviously.

00:23:05.160 And this whole war, to make everyone think the same,

00:23:08.400 is ultimately a war on fun and a war on color.

00:23:11.780 I keep talking about this radio station in Austin

00:23:13.540 that's booting out all of these bands that might like Trump.

00:23:17.480 And what you end up with is Stalinist radio,

00:23:20.060 where every musician feels the same about every subject,

00:23:23.420 and every song is supporting the same agenda.

00:23:27.240 That's not what the West is about.

00:23:29.080 That's what the East is about.

00:23:30.600 Yeah.

00:23:30.980 You know, I saw this insane essay the other day about post-comedy,

00:23:36.920 where it has the trappings of a comedy routine,

00:23:41.420 but it's not funny.

00:23:42.660 And that's the comedy that will be left after we get rid of the,

00:23:47.860 I mean, you know, was it, who was it, Orwell,

00:23:50.480 or was it Solzhenitsyn who said,

00:23:52.040 every joke is a little revolution?

00:23:54.180 It was Solzhenitsyn.

00:23:55.160 Solzhenitsyn was sent to prison for making a joke in a private letter.

00:24:00.240 And all it was was a nickname.

00:24:01.480 He called Stalin the whiskered one.

00:24:03.980 That was enough to send him to Siberia.

00:24:06.300 That's how, I think we're getting to that kind of crazy mob rule again,

00:24:10.080 except for it's not one tyrant, it's the tyranny of the mob.

00:24:13.800 New York Times just had an article about this,

00:24:15.860 I believe it was yesterday,

00:24:17.100 that was complaining about private Facebook groups.

00:24:20.720 And they mentioned that I talked to my friends on private Facebook groups.

00:24:25.160 They talked about anti-vaccine, anti-vaccine people.

00:24:28.260 Now, obviously, you and I are on the same page with vaccines.

00:24:30.580 We support them, and I'm against the idea of not vaccinating your children.

00:24:34.500 But what I'm against more than that

00:24:36.260 is the concept that you're not allowed to privately criticize big pharma.

00:24:42.180 We're now at the point now where private discussions are under siege.

00:24:46.620 Soon they're going to be subpoenaing our texts and recording our conversations.

00:24:52.060 This is already treading into dark territory.

00:24:55.320 Well, I mean, as you know, Robert Spencer, not Richard Spencer,

00:24:59.060 the Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch, MasterCard,

00:25:02.060 I mean, they've backed down since,

00:25:03.180 but they just said, oh, we're not going to do any transactions with you,

00:25:06.300 as if MasterCard has morally reviews every single expenditure.

00:25:12.220 It would be like your cell phone company calling you up one day and saying,

00:25:15.600 hey, we don't like some of the conversations you're having on our cell phones,

00:25:18.940 so we're going to take away your phone number.

00:25:21.820 And you have to, and by the way, all the other cell phone companies are too,

00:25:25.000 because you've been saying some bad things.

00:25:26.880 That's the politicization of everything.

00:25:28.620 I don't want to take too much or more of your time,

00:25:30.640 because I know you're busy today, but let me show you a clip from those same

00:25:34.120 Brett Kavanaugh hearings on Capitol Hill.

00:25:37.860 There is a young woman, I think she's with the White House.

00:25:41.140 Her name is Zina Bash.

00:25:44.260 And let me show you, you can see...

00:25:47.120 I would give her an eight.

00:25:48.740 I think she's a Benjamin Buttons babe, 1.00

00:25:50.480 in that she's getting hotter as she gets older. 1.00

00:25:52.520 She's a very beautiful woman, and the name is Zina Bash,

00:25:56.500 as you can detect from it.

00:25:58.660 And let's play the B-roll of her sitting there. 1.00

00:26:04.400 She's behind Brett Kavanaugh on the right there, as you can see.

00:26:07.080 And she's just resting her fingers on her arm,

00:26:09.420 but it looks, I guess, if you're looking for some encoded hidden message,

00:26:18.160 it looks like she's making the OK symbol on her finger.

00:26:21.260 I guess if you're, like, who is that Dan fella

00:26:26.220 who had all these secret cryptic things at the Louvre,

00:26:30.380 you know, these, oh, I'm just trying to remember the name of his awful

00:26:33.340 pulp fiction novels about these Vatican conspiracies.

00:26:36.840 Anyways, if you're looking for a secret symbol, that apparently is it.

00:26:41.120 And look at this tweet.

00:26:42.320 Look at this tweet about what Zina Bash did with her fingers.

00:26:48.160 More context for the Zina Bash incident during the Kavanaugh hearing.

00:26:53.800 She is sitting normally, then checks her phone to read something.

00:26:57.280 Some are saying a text, but we have no confirmation.

00:27:00.200 Then she holds the pose at issue for over 30 seconds with a slight smirk. 0.99

00:27:06.520 You be the judge.

00:27:08.960 Dan Brown, that's the name of who I'm thinking about,

00:27:11.600 the conspiracy theorist fiction writer.

00:27:14.020 So talk about conspiracy.

00:27:15.080 Who has more of a conspiracy theory, Gavin?

00:27:18.160 Is it Alex Jones, who's asking questions about government?

00:27:24.440 Or is it some kook on the left who thinks that that Jewish Mexican lawyer 0.64

00:27:29.040 who puts her finger like this for a second,

00:27:34.380 is tweeting out, I'm not even kidding,

00:27:36.840 they're implying it is a white power signal.

00:27:40.940 They're implying even more.

00:27:42.600 They're implying that the text said something like,

00:27:44.960 it is time.

00:27:46.800 And then like, hashtag WP or something.

00:27:50.400 All right, it's time to do it.

00:27:52.340 But I think you and I might differ a tiny bit on this.

00:27:55.400 You think they're being willfully ignorant and pretending that they believe that that is a thing.

00:28:00.960 I disagree.

00:28:02.440 Like, if this was the Salem witch trials,

00:28:04.260 you're saying they're calling that person a witch just because they want to kill them.

00:28:07.420 I think they actually believe this person is a witch.

00:28:09.840 I think they believe that there was a text.

00:28:12.740 And I saw other tweets from Occupy Democrats and big companies,

00:28:16.660 pretty mainstream leftist groups saying,

00:28:18.860 they're not even trying to hide it anymore.

00:28:21.180 They're rubbing it in our faces.

00:28:22.640 I think they believe what they're screaming.

00:28:26.100 You know, maybe it's a bit of both.

00:28:27.960 Maybe some people believe that a Jewish Mexican lawyer,

00:28:31.900 female woman, not male women, 1.00

00:28:34.960 but there's so many little check marks there.

00:28:36.700 Jewish, check. 0.91

00:28:37.480 Mexican, check. 0.72

00:28:38.680 Female, check. 1.00

00:28:39.800 That she is a white power advocate.

00:28:42.520 Some people believe that.

00:28:43.300 But other people say, you know what?

00:28:44.920 We've just got to step on the Brett Kavanaugh hearings.

00:28:47.460 We've got to throw it in the air.

00:28:49.220 They've got 300 million Americans,

00:28:50.720 you know, maybe half a million people will believe it

00:28:53.600 and we'll just rev up our base.

00:28:55.820 And I think a lot of it's fake.

00:28:57.880 But, you know, I think what they're trying to do

00:29:02.680 is they're trying to Proud Boys-ify.

00:29:04.640 They're trying to Gavin McInnes-ify, Alex Jones-ify,

00:29:08.180 an accomplished young woman Hispanic lawyer in the White House.

00:29:11.700 That's how far gone they are.

00:29:12.920 Last word to you, Gavin.

00:29:14.960 You know what it is also?

00:29:16.280 It's projection.

00:29:16.880 They do hide symbols in media.

00:29:20.380 They do, these writers for shows,

00:29:22.860 they will tell you later that that character was trans

00:29:25.560 or this person was gay. 0.71

00:29:26.520 Or even the guy who wrote Star Wars

00:29:27.980 said that the Darth Vader and the Empire

00:29:30.080 was meant to be white nationalism.

00:29:33.760 And that's really what the message was.

00:29:36.180 Or there was, speaking of Proud Boys,

00:29:37.380 there's this guy Josh Androsky, I believe is his name.

00:29:40.140 And he's the one who got them kicked out of this bar in L.A.,

00:29:42.980 which we're legally pursuing.

00:29:44.720 And he admits on podcasts very openly,

00:29:47.560 when he wrote for SpongeBob SquarePants,

00:29:50.280 that he would sneak in communist and socialist messages into SpongeBob.

00:29:55.460 And then you look at Sam Hyde,

00:29:57.180 who was booted from Adult Swim because someone lied

00:30:00.700 and said he was sneaking in secret swastikas and alt-right messages,

00:30:05.860 which he absolutely, unequivocally was not.

00:30:09.100 So they are accusing us of doing what they do on a regular basis.

00:30:12.880 Yeah, you know, it's so funny, the amount of outrage over this little hand symbol,

00:30:18.100 which isn't even, like, that's the letter F in sign language,

00:30:20.600 or it's okay or fantastic in common parlance.

00:30:23.560 Louis Farrakhan, the head of the Nation of Islam,

00:30:26.780 was sitting next to Bill Clinton at Aretha Franklin's funeral.

00:30:31.240 Out and out racist.

00:30:32.300 He's really a black Klansman.

00:30:34.460 That was just edited out of the whole thing.

00:30:37.240 But an innocent non-gesture, that's dominant news.

00:30:42.240 We're living in crazy times.

00:30:43.520 I hope you keep fighting the fight down there, Gavin.

00:30:46.500 I always will, my friend.

00:30:47.920 All right, thanks for taking the time.

00:30:49.140 There you have it.

00:30:50.060 Gavin McInnes, he has a show called Get Off My Lawn on CRTV,

00:30:54.220 and what a pleasure to talk to him today via Skype.

00:30:56.440 Stay with us.

00:30:57.320 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:30:58.120 Hey, guys, we're trying out something new.

00:31:10.500 We're going to switch to one guest a day,

00:31:13.280 because I don't think people are watching the whole show through.

00:31:17.280 I see that on our viewer analytics.

00:31:19.760 We get statistics how long people watch the show,

00:31:22.120 and everyone watches the monologue, more or less.

00:31:25.120 But I don't think people are sticking around for the second guest.

00:31:27.920 So I think we're going to do one solid guest every day,

00:31:30.800 not that some of them aren't solid.

00:31:33.100 And we're going to see how people like it,

00:31:35.060 and you let me know.

00:31:35.820 Send me letters, what you think.

00:31:37.480 Tomorrow we've got a great guest lined up.

00:31:39.300 I think we're working on it.

00:31:40.120 We haven't confirmed him, but a real fan favor.

00:31:44.060 Let me know how it goes.

00:31:45.500 And if that's the right balance, you know,

00:31:48.240 a 20-minute monologue and, let's say, a 15-minute solid interview,

00:31:51.600 we'll do it that way.

00:31:52.480 If you really want me to have two shorter guests, you let me know.

00:31:55.560 But as we're trying that out for the new season, let me know.

00:31:59.940 Here's your viewer feedback on the topic of Andrew Scheer

00:32:02.840 and the importance of conservatives working together.

00:32:05.780 Suzanne writes,

00:32:06.500 I'm a longtime subscriber to The Rebel

00:32:08.760 and truly believe you are a vital megaphone

00:32:11.100 for conservative voices in our country.

00:32:13.420 I've also been to a few Rebel events in the Toronto area,

00:32:15.880 which I always find informative and entertaining.

00:32:18.720 But you need to get on board with Scheer,

00:32:20.600 and here are some of the reasons why.

00:32:22.920 With Jagmeet Singh being a weak NDP leader

00:32:25.180 and likely to be unpopular with Quebecers,

00:32:27.160 we can't count on any splitting of the left vote

00:32:29.280 to help us beat Trudeau.

00:32:30.480 As for being personas non grata at the conservative convention,

00:32:34.800 you have to own some responsibility

00:32:36.220 for making The Rebel a liability there.

00:32:38.740 Ignoring all the outstanding journalism you do,

00:32:40.820 I could just see the CBC dragging out footage of you,

00:32:44.260 basically calling the PM's mother a whore,

00:32:46.960 painting you and The Rebel as fringe,

00:32:49.380 and pulling focus from the whole event.

00:32:52.420 With regard to supply management in the dairy industry,

00:32:55.180 I don't think that's a hill to die on

00:32:56.960 for any wise Canadian politician.

00:32:58.400 I believe it's highly probable the Americans will stand firm

00:33:01.420 on that issue in the negotiating of our next trade agreement.

00:33:04.380 I can easily see a scenario where Maxime Bernier gets his way

00:33:07.260 without any Canadian politician having to wear it.

00:33:10.320 Hate to be so political,

00:33:11.640 but I'm just looking at the long game.

00:33:13.760 If ever there were a time for conservatives in Canada

00:33:16.100 to stick together, it's now.

00:33:18.760 Well, Suzanne, first of all,

00:33:20.120 let me thank you for your support.

00:33:22.000 You're obviously a Rebel Premium subscriber,

00:33:24.520 and you've been to our events,

00:33:26.560 and I'm sure we've said hello in person,

00:33:28.920 so thank you.

00:33:30.700 And I see your letter is written in good faith,

00:33:32.880 and you share our objective,

00:33:34.980 get rid of Justin Trudeau.

00:33:37.820 It's not actually our main objective here at The Rebel.

00:33:39.940 Our main objective here at The Rebel

00:33:41.060 is to be the other side of the story,

00:33:43.440 a conservative opinion and news site

00:33:45.660 with some activism thrown in.

00:33:47.040 We're not a partisan tool,

00:33:49.900 although obviously we support parties of the right.

00:33:53.080 Part of our job,

00:33:54.720 in addition to supporting parties of the right,

00:33:57.520 is to ensure that they are indeed conservative

00:33:59.620 and criticize them when they're not,

00:34:01.620 because if we don't,

00:34:02.940 no one else will.

00:34:04.360 In Canada, conservative parties

00:34:05.660 are already always criticized from the left,

00:34:08.260 and they all start bending that way

00:34:10.440 just out of peer pressure.

00:34:11.780 That's what happened on the carbon tax issue.

00:34:13.340 Our job is to stiffen the spine of conservatives

00:34:16.660 so at least they can go straight

00:34:18.220 instead of curving to the left.

00:34:19.940 Secondly, I see another one of our roles

00:34:21.940 is to talk about the untalkable things

00:34:24.260 to make them a legitimate part

00:34:26.560 of the national conversation.

00:34:27.980 I think refugees and immigration

00:34:29.580 is an obvious point, M-103,

00:34:31.680 the censorship motion,

00:34:32.700 even the carbon tax.

00:34:34.300 Two years ago,

00:34:36.120 conservatives were stampeding

00:34:37.300 towards the carbon tax position,

00:34:39.540 whether it was Michael Chong

00:34:42.240 or Andrew Coyne in the National Post

00:34:44.640 or Preston Manning

00:34:46.240 or Patrick Brown,

00:34:47.200 and you can scoff

00:34:48.060 and say none of those people

00:34:49.380 are real conservatives.

00:34:50.640 Well, they sure looked

00:34:51.940 like they had the feeling of momentum.

00:34:54.660 It was up to us,

00:34:55.600 the grubby rebels,

00:34:56.840 and we had our anti-carbon tax posters

00:34:59.560 and lawn signs and rallies.

00:35:02.020 So part of our job

00:35:03.160 is to soften up the battlefield,

00:35:05.540 shape the battlefield,

00:35:07.020 to get people talking about things

00:35:08.700 to make it easier

00:35:09.580 for scaredy-cat politicians

00:35:11.660 to get in front of the parade

00:35:13.500 that we've already mustered.

00:35:14.620 I believe that the rebel

00:35:16.040 deserves some credit

00:35:17.520 for the fact that Ontario's

00:35:19.680 premier, Doug Ford,

00:35:21.240 is anti-carbon tax.

00:35:22.440 I believe we helped shape

00:35:23.680 that issue

00:35:24.820 in the Ontario provincial debate.

00:35:27.380 But, so that's our role.

00:35:28.800 I don't see our role

00:35:29.420 as merely being a repeater

00:35:30.660 for the Conservative Party.

00:35:32.900 We support the Conservatives

00:35:34.120 when they're Conservative,

00:35:34.820 but we pull them to the right

00:35:35.800 when they're not.

00:35:36.560 And we talk about things

00:35:37.720 that are too spicy

00:35:38.400 for them to say,

00:35:39.640 and we normalize those subjects.

00:35:41.520 We move the Overton window,

00:35:43.100 as they say.

00:35:44.420 But as to your specifics,

00:35:46.240 I mean, I recall

00:35:47.780 what you're talking about.

00:35:48.920 I remember doing a video

00:35:50.140 back in, was it 2012,

00:35:53.400 about Justin Trudeau's mom,

00:35:55.800 who was unfaithful

00:35:57.720 to Pierre Trudeau

00:35:58.440 as he was to her,

00:35:59.680 and she went to New York

00:36:01.100 and partied and slept around.

00:36:03.220 They both had affairs

00:36:03.900 on each other.

00:36:04.240 It was, I remember

00:36:05.820 doing that video

00:36:06.800 at The Sun,

00:36:07.480 I think it was

00:36:08.220 six or seven years ago.

00:36:10.280 And it went to

00:36:12.360 how Justin Trudeau

00:36:13.580 sees women,

00:36:14.320 and we now know

00:36:15.060 that Justin Trudeau,

00:36:16.200 like his dad,

00:36:16.920 is a groper.

00:36:19.700 I stand by that journalism.

00:36:21.400 I think it was

00:36:22.040 legitimate journalism,

00:36:24.200 especially when

00:36:24.960 Justin Trudeau

00:36:25.880 claims to be a feminist, 0.82

00:36:27.960 to scrutinize

00:36:30.080 his own conduct.

00:36:30.980 And I think it's fair

00:36:31.960 to remind people

00:36:33.600 of what his role model

00:36:38.600 for a family was like.

00:36:40.480 I don't know

00:36:41.120 if you recall,

00:36:41.760 but Pierre Trudeau

00:36:42.820 physically beat

00:36:44.600 Margaret Trudeau

00:36:45.840 so bad that she

00:36:46.720 would have a black eye.

00:36:48.020 Maybe you don't think

00:36:48.660 that's relevant,

00:36:49.180 and maybe it's not,

00:36:49.900 but I think

00:36:50.300 for a story we did

00:36:52.220 on that back

00:36:52.820 in 2001 or 2002,

00:36:54.980 to claim that

00:36:57.000 that would be

00:36:57.960 a reason why

00:36:59.320 Sheila Gunn-Reed

00:37:01.100 in 2018

00:37:03.240 shouldn't be allowed

00:37:05.720 to attend the rebel.

00:37:07.560 That's crazy.

00:37:09.660 That would be like saying

00:37:10.920 every single

00:37:12.920 CBC journalist

00:37:14.380 should be banned

00:37:15.660 because

00:37:17.180 Xi'an Gomeshi

00:37:18.720 beat women also.

00:37:20.560 Is that why

00:37:22.660 you would ban

00:37:23.400 reporter number two

00:37:26.340 because reporter number one

00:37:27.800 did something bad

00:37:28.600 a year ago?

00:37:28.900 I don't even think

00:37:29.600 my report seven years ago

00:37:31.240 was bad.

00:37:32.700 But to justify

00:37:33.760 banning Sheila Gunn-Reed

00:37:35.960 because of that,

00:37:37.060 that's the mistake

00:37:38.260 that Andrew Scheer's team

00:37:39.360 has made,

00:37:40.100 and I've talked about

00:37:40.760 this before.

00:37:42.140 Banning the rebel

00:37:42.980 was not because

00:37:43.620 we've done anything,

00:37:45.220 and even if they disagree

00:37:46.560 with our opinions,

00:37:48.320 so what?

00:37:49.280 Allowing journalists

00:37:51.820 to come to your event

00:37:52.620 doesn't mean you agree

00:37:53.460 with their opinions.

00:37:54.980 But the fact that

00:37:55.960 you're so scared

00:37:57.500 about what the CBC

00:37:59.440 or the liberals

00:38:00.060 might say or do

00:38:00.880 because of like

00:38:02.220 five degrees of separation,

00:38:03.880 Ezra,

00:38:04.460 when you were at the Sun

00:38:05.680 seven years ago,

00:38:06.940 you did a video

00:38:07.920 about Margaret Trudeau

00:38:09.560 sleeping around,

00:38:10.760 and sure,

00:38:11.160 it was factually true,

00:38:12.540 but in 2000,

00:38:13.520 I mean,

00:38:13.760 it's just so obscure.

00:38:15.480 Do you see how

00:38:16.220 your mind

00:38:16.860 has been colonized

00:38:18.100 by the media party

00:38:19.560 and you have

00:38:20.340 a form of

00:38:20.900 Stockholm Syndrome

00:38:21.680 and you are now

00:38:22.940 doing their bidding

00:38:23.880 and you are now

00:38:24.580 marginalizing

00:38:25.640 the media of the right

00:38:27.440 at the party

00:38:28.480 of the right

00:38:28.980 on the behest

00:38:31.440 of the media

00:38:33.420 of the left?

00:38:34.000 Anyway,

00:38:34.140 I disagree with

00:38:34.740 your conclusion.

00:38:35.720 I disagree with it.

00:38:37.120 And I know

00:38:38.180 that Andrew Scheer's

00:38:39.220 views were not shared

00:38:40.260 by many people

00:38:41.600 in this party at all.

00:38:42.420 we had hundreds

00:38:43.300 of conservative

00:38:44.040 delegates come by

00:38:45.260 our hospitality suite

00:38:46.380 and we had Andrew Scheer's

00:38:47.520 own staff tell us

00:38:49.220 they disagreed

00:38:49.760 with their boss.

00:38:50.480 So being a timid conservative

00:38:53.320 is not being

00:38:54.880 a real conservative

00:38:55.680 and it's not going

00:38:57.260 to win, Suzanne.

00:38:58.140 Let me close on that point.

00:39:00.560 Even if we did

00:39:01.520 everything in your advice,

00:39:04.400 Andrew Scheer ain't going

00:39:05.140 to win by being

00:39:05.840 a timid knockoff.

00:39:07.740 That would be like saying,

00:39:09.060 just be like Marco Rubio.

00:39:10.400 Just be like Jeb Bush.

00:39:13.380 Just be like Mitt Romney.

00:39:14.760 Don't be like Donald Trump.

00:39:17.180 Jeb Bush will do it.

00:39:18.680 Marco Rubio will do it.

00:39:20.020 No, no, no.

00:39:20.680 Don't you see, Suzanne,

00:39:22.220 that the left

00:39:22.880 will demonize

00:39:23.940 and destroy anyone 0.88

00:39:26.180 no matter how kindly

00:39:27.720 and moderate they are.

00:39:29.160 They did to Stockwell Day.

00:39:30.820 They did to Preston Manning.

00:39:32.220 They did to John McCain.

00:39:34.420 When those people

00:39:35.260 are all retired

00:39:36.060 or in John McCain's case,

00:39:37.780 dead,

00:39:38.800 then they lavish them

00:39:39.880 with praise.

00:39:40.940 But no matter what we do

00:39:42.660 and no matter what

00:39:43.680 Andrew Scheer does,

00:39:45.140 the media party

00:39:46.100 will despise us

00:39:47.200 no matter what.

00:39:48.200 So why don't we

00:39:48.860 just do what we do?

00:39:50.800 That's a very long answer

00:39:51.900 to a long question.

00:39:53.680 Until tomorrow,

00:39:54.580 on behalf of all of us

00:39:55.420 here at Rebel World

00:39:56.060 Headquarters,

00:39:56.640 good night

00:39:56.960 and keep fighting for freedom.

00:39:58.700 Take a listen to this one

00:40:15.280 and take a listen.

00:40:17.380 That's how it's gonna happen.

Rebel News Podcast - September 06, 2018

Trudeau WANTS to lose NAFTA — so he can blame Trump in the next election

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