Rebel News Podcast - Trudeau’s new budget reveals bizarre details about $595M media bail-out

00:00:00.000 Hi, guys. I take a look through the budget yesterday, and I try to understand Justin Trudeau's plan for a media bailout.

00:00:08.320 He's created this thing. Let me get this right. He calls them QCJOs, Qualified Canadian Journalism Organization.

00:00:19.260 I just say Justin Trudeau for short because I'm not going to say QCJO. It's too weird.

00:00:23.980 And he goes through this. Anyhow, I won't tell you that. So you just listen. Listen to the podcast ahead.

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00:01:03.580 Without further to do, here is my take on Justin Trudeau's media bailout in yesterday's budget.

00:01:11.060 You're listening to a Rebel Media Podcast.

00:01:13.600 Tonight, Trudeau's new budget gives some bizarre details about his $595 million media bailout.

00:01:21.680 It's March 20th and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:26.200 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:30.000 There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:34.080 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:43.600 Yesterday, Justin Trudeau and Bill Morneau brought in their annual budget.

00:01:50.200 I think the main thing to know about it is that no Canadian government has ever spent more than Trudeau has.

00:01:56.260 Canadians have never paid more taxes than we do now.

00:01:59.280 And the national debt has never been higher.

00:02:01.960 Any questions?

00:02:03.240 Here's a helpful chart that the National Post put together.

00:02:06.140 Look at that line about deficit and debt.

00:02:08.800 You'll see we'll hit $685 billion in debt this year.

00:02:13.920 And just four years from now, it's about two-thirds of the way down, just four years from now,

00:02:18.480 as in if, God forbid, Trudeau's re-elected, we'll be at three-quarters of a trillion in debt.

00:02:24.520 You see that there?

00:02:25.560 In the year 2022-2023, $751.9 billion.

00:02:30.660 And that's based on rosy predictions of this government.

00:02:33.360 Funny, I thought we were going to balance the budget for sure.

00:02:38.200 Remember this?

00:02:39.580 We have, we were the first party to put out a fully costed framework

00:02:43.240 that said that we indeed are going to run three modest deficits over the first three years

00:02:48.960 so we can balance the books in 2019.

00:02:53.080 Yeah, no, that didn't happen.

00:02:54.660 And if that didn't happen during a time of economic growth,

00:02:57.240 how is it going to happen now that we're slipping into a recession?

00:03:00.080 I guess what they say is right.

00:03:02.500 Don't hire a substitute drama teacher to do your accounting for you.

00:03:09.380 Well, the fact is we're proposing a strong and real plan,

00:03:13.700 one that invests in the middle class so that we can grow the economy,

00:03:17.440 not from the top down the way Mr. Harper wants to, but from the heart outwards.

00:03:22.420 I guess that didn't work for a budget.

00:03:26.180 I bet it works well on dates.

00:03:28.440 We're going to grow the economy from the heart out.

00:03:31.040 That's how we're going to do it, sweetie.

00:03:32.980 No, it just doesn't work on an actual budget.

00:03:35.660 But hey, trust Trudeau's state broadcaster to give you the straight goods,

00:03:40.920 no spin, no partisanship, just exactly what's happening.

00:03:44.560 Look at this headline.

00:03:46.580 Liberals table a pre-election budget designed to ease Canadians' anxieties.

00:03:52.660 Hey, guys, are you worried about life?

00:03:55.380 Maybe even worried that Justin Trudeau is corrupt and his cabinet is falling apart.

00:03:58.820 Just a few days ago, the senior public servant quit and disgrace.

00:04:01.980 Are you guys worried at all about things?

00:04:04.480 Hey, take it easy, man.

00:04:05.660 This budget will soothe you like a Valium chased with a fine white wine and some legal marijuana.

00:04:13.180 There, don't you feel better?

00:04:16.220 Signed, the CBC state broadcaster.

00:04:18.720 They actually ran that as a story. 0.94

00:04:20.640 They're so gross over there.

00:04:23.180 Okay, so the budget is the usual. 0.83

00:04:25.440 But it starts to put some details on the massive $595 million media bailout that Trudeau promised last fall.

00:04:31.280 But as the Toronto Star described it last year, that media bailout money will only go to journalists that Trudeau says he can trust.

00:04:38.880 But how do you manage to put that rule into a budget, into a law, without sounding like a corrupt SNC-Lavalin-type politician who rigs things for their friends?

00:04:50.180 That's the challenge.

00:04:51.180 How do you put that into rules?

00:04:54.040 Here, let's read from the budget, page 173.

00:04:56.760 3. Supporting Canadian Journalism

00:04:59.420 A strong and independent news media is crucial to a well-functioning democracy.

00:05:05.200 Recognizing the vitally important role that media play in helping citizens make informed decisions about important issues,

00:05:11.720 in the fall economic statement, the government announced its intention to introduce three new tax measures to support Canadian journalism.

00:05:20.900 A new refundable tax credit for journalism organizations, a new non-refundable tax credit for subscriptions to Canadian digital news,

00:05:29.520 access to charitable tax incentives for not-per-profit journalism.

00:05:34.160 Okay, let's stop right there.

00:05:35.840 Do you get nervous when you hear that the government is going to help the media be better?

00:05:44.080 Do you believe it's even possible?

00:05:45.200 Can you think of any situation where government involvement would make journalism more accurate, more free, more independent, more non-partisan,

00:05:53.240 more anything other than more controlled?

00:05:57.400 I can't think of a single thing a government could even do hypothetically that could help.

00:06:01.640 I guess they could undo things.

00:06:03.100 They could undo taxes.

00:06:05.220 They could undo existing regulations like the various censorship provisions in Canada, including the CRTC, for example.

00:06:11.460 I note that this week the Liberals served notice.

00:06:15.800 It's hard to read this tweet because it's a piece of paper,

00:06:18.360 but they're serving notice that they intend to revive the censorship powers of the Canadian Human Rights Commission to censor the Internet.

00:06:26.120 That's what was used to prosecute Maclean's magazine and Mark Stein and provincially me and the Western Standard years ago.

00:06:32.560 So, yeah, the government can practice not screwing things up,

00:06:37.760 but I don't think it's even scientifically possible for them to positively help anything.

00:06:43.200 But let me read a little bit more from the budget, okay?

00:06:46.420 As previously announced, the government will establish an independent panel of experts from the Canadian journalism sector

00:06:52.100 to assist the government in implementing these measures, including recommending eligibility criteria.

00:06:57.820 Okay, got it.

00:06:58.740 They will be independent, will they?

00:07:01.860 Just as independent as Justin Trudeau's independent senators,

00:07:05.400 who actually vote with the Liberal Party line even more loyally than formerly liberal senators.

00:07:11.980 Independent?

00:07:13.380 Oh, let me guess.

00:07:14.100 Like Anne McClellan, who Trudeau just appointed to be an independent advisor on matters emerging from his SNC-Lavalin fiasco.

00:07:21.720 She's so independent, she was scheduled to give a speech at this liberal fundraising event a few weeks from now.

00:07:27.900 That's how independent she is.

00:07:30.340 So, yeah, an independent panel of experts from the Canadian journalism sector,

00:07:34.620 that just means Trudeau's friends.

00:07:37.840 They'll recommend who's eligible for those little handouts that I read about.

00:07:42.920 Now, if you cut taxes for every journalist,

00:07:47.220 and really, why should you?

00:07:48.100 Why favor journalists over any other profession or occupation?

00:07:51.420 Well, it's obvious.

00:07:52.940 If you were to cut taxes for bricklayers or truck drivers, I mean, that's great and all, 1.00

00:07:57.140 and they might light you a bit more, and they might actually vote for you.

00:08:00.140 But journalists are a necessary auxiliary in your election campaign.

00:08:04.260 You're not just buying the votes of a few hundred journalists.

00:08:06.840 You're buying their megaphone to get millions more votes.

00:08:09.840 Let me know when bricklayers can do that. 1.00

00:08:11.640 So, yeah, these will be exquisitely handpicked allies of Trudeau deciding which journalists can get the tax credits

00:08:18.840 and which can't based on their allegiance to Trudeau.

00:08:22.160 Here's some more.

00:08:24.180 Given the importance of ensuring that media outlets are able to operate with full independence,

00:08:29.980 the government proposes to establish an independent administrative body

00:08:33.840 that will be responsible for recognizing journalism organizations as being eligible for any of the three measures.

00:08:39.820 Got it.

00:08:40.700 So, to ensure full independence from government, we're going to have a government administrative body.

00:08:48.480 Yeah, then it's not independent, guys.

00:08:50.840 I was just in the U.K. last week, as you know, and a judge asked all the journalists in the courtroom,

00:08:56.720 including me, to produce their journalism licenses.

00:08:59.460 I'm not kidding.

00:09:00.380 They really, she really did ask for that.

00:09:03.440 And the other reporters there from the U.K. really did whip out their little licenses so quickly.

00:09:09.300 They had it on them.

00:09:10.320 They were so proud as if to say, I'm part of the chosen elite.

00:09:13.680 I'm part of the guild.

00:09:15.660 Kick everyone else out of court but not me, judge.

00:09:18.500 Now, I told the judge, yeah, I'm from Canada.

00:09:20.440 We don't have to register with the government to be journalists here.

00:09:23.840 Yet.

00:09:25.040 And they were all confused over there in the U.K., almost angry at me that I didn't have to bend the knee to the establishment

00:09:29.680 in the way that they all had to do.

00:09:32.480 I guess I won't be able to do that for much longer in Canada because we will have an independent government board

00:09:37.720 ensuring we're independent.

00:09:39.820 Not sure if that's ever how freedom has worked before, but under Trudeau, why not?

00:09:44.420 And what?

00:09:44.920 Do you think journalists are going to quarrel with the guy who's handing out free money to them?

00:09:49.940 The liberals put out a few more details on this subject, too.

00:09:52.540 Like the Brits I met last week, they want to determine who has the government stamp of approval to be a journalist and who doesn't.

00:09:59.180 They actually came up with a name.

00:10:00.820 It's almost as laughable as independent senators appointed independently by Justin Trudeau.

00:10:06.820 The name they have, this is real.

00:10:09.100 I'm not making this up.

00:10:10.500 They call them Qualified Canadian Journalism Organizations.

00:10:15.880 It's really, here, let me read.

00:10:18.720 This is real.

00:10:19.760 This is real.

00:10:20.380 I'm not making, I swear you'd probably think, oh, you're just making this.

00:10:23.200 No, check it out.

00:10:23.900 Go to the budget.

00:10:24.940 You can Google it.

00:10:26.560 Qualified Canadian Journalism Organization, QCJO.

00:10:31.740 Oh, that rolls right off the lips, doesn't it?

00:10:34.940 QCJO status is a necessary condition for each of the three measures.

00:10:40.800 In order to be a QCJO, an organization will be required to be recognized as meeting criteria

00:10:47.020 developed by the independent panel.

00:10:48.940 This recognition will be made by an administrative body that will be established for this purpose.

00:10:54.400 Got it.

00:10:55.440 So there's grubby journalists who ask questions about the world and they say what they want.

00:11:01.640 Yuck.

00:11:03.480 But then there's the elevated ones, the official ones, the elites, the polite people, the better

00:11:08.260 people.

00:11:09.120 They're qualified Canadian journalism organizations.

00:11:13.100 That implies the rest aren't qualified.

00:11:15.380 The QCJOs. 0.88

00:11:17.760 Oh, my God.

00:11:19.140 It rolls off the tongue.

00:11:20.320 I prefer Justin Journos.

00:11:22.380 At least it has a bit of an assonance to it.

00:11:24.680 It's got a poetic quality to it.

00:11:26.780 And you can't be a Justin Journo until you are invited to join by other Justin Journos that

00:11:31.520 Justin himself has handpicked.

00:11:33.160 It's like one of those secret fraternities at Ivy League universities.

00:11:36.840 You can't even apply to join.

00:11:38.180 And you have to be tapped on the shoulder to join them.

00:11:40.540 You can't even apply.

00:11:42.560 Let me read some more.

00:11:43.560 This is real.

00:11:44.860 I didn't make this up.

00:11:47.400 A QCJO will be required to be organized as a corporation, partnership, or trust.

00:11:53.800 It will need to operate in Canada and meet additional conditions depending on how it is

00:11:57.340 organized.

00:11:57.780 To qualify as a QCJO, a corporation will be required to be incorporated and resident in

00:12:03.680 Canada.

00:12:04.500 In addition, its chairperson or other presiding officer and at least 75% of its directors must

00:12:09.120 be Canadian citizens in general in order for a partnership or trust to qualify such corporations

00:12:14.420 along with Canadian citizens must own at least 75% of the interest in it.

00:12:19.420 Okay.

00:12:19.920 Now, I just want to tell you, by the way, the rebel meets those criteria.

00:12:24.300 I'm just saying, I think they're trying to find some way to keep us out.

00:12:28.520 Not that we'd come in, but let me enjoy the fun of mocking this.

00:12:31.920 I'll read some more.

00:12:33.800 In addition, an organization will be required to meet the following positions to be a QCJO.

00:12:38.740 Hey, are you a QCJO?

00:12:41.240 It is primarily engaged in the production of original news content, and in particular, the

00:12:46.740 content must be primarily focused on matters of general interest and reports of current events,

00:12:52.100 including coverage of democratic institutions and processes, and must not be primarily focused

00:12:58.260 on a particular topic, such as industry-specific news, sports, recreation, arts, lifestyle, or

00:13:03.980 entertainment.

00:13:07.200 And let me just stop there for a second.

00:13:08.600 Why does boring news about politicians get a handout, but not normal news about the world

00:13:13.240 that actual normal people care about?

00:13:16.920 It doesn't matter, the explanation.

00:13:18.340 This is the personal whims of whatever politician wrote this bizarre rule.

00:13:22.040 I mean, this isn't about journalism, it's about Justin's journalism.

00:13:24.640 I'll keep reading.

00:13:25.660 It regularly employs two or more journalists in the production of its content who deal at

00:13:30.440 arm's length with the organization, and it must not be significantly engaged in the production

00:13:36.660 of content to promote the interest or report on the activities of an organization, an association,

00:13:42.800 or their members, for a government, crown corporation, or government agency, or to promote goods or

00:13:48.880 services, so it can't be like a Costco newsletter.

00:13:53.460 And it must not be a crown corporation, municipal corporation, or government agency.

00:13:56.920 Okay.

00:13:58.200 Now, I'm just confused now, because why does the CBC get money then?

00:14:02.100 They're a government agency.

00:14:04.860 What does it mean to engage journalists who are at arm's length from the company?

00:14:07.940 I'm not even sure what that means.

00:14:10.920 Is an employee at arm's length from the company?

00:14:13.460 I don't even know if they know what they're talking about here, but let me skip ahead.

00:14:16.840 Here's my favorite part.

00:14:18.380 I call this the ban the rebel clause.

00:14:21.080 Ready?

00:14:22.700 To ensure that registered journalism organizations are not used to promote the views or objectives

00:14:28.740 of any particular person or related group of persons, a registered journalism organization

00:14:35.320 will be required to have a board of directors or trustees, each of whom deals at arm's length

00:14:40.460 with each other, must not be factually controlled by a person or a group of related persons, and

00:14:47.340 must generally not, in any given year, receive gifts that represent more than 20% of its total

00:14:52.960 revenues, including donations from any one source, excluding bequests and one-time gifts made

00:14:58.240 on the initial establishment of the particular registered journalism organization.

00:15:02.320 Like I said, I'd never take money from Justin Trudeau because I'm not a prostitute.

00:15:08.040 You can't take money from Justin Trudeau and also report on Justin Trudeau, other than

00:15:14.780 if you're a stenographer or his PR boy.

00:15:17.560 That's why I refuse to call anyone at the CBC a journalist.

00:15:21.380 There may be a government journalist, but you have to have that qualifier in there.

00:15:25.580 If you don't have that adjective, a government journalist, it's not true.

00:15:31.620 I mean, if you're paying for it, it's not love, fellas.

00:15:33.740 It's prostitution. 1.00

00:15:36.040 Now, the funny thing is, we at The Rebel actually meet all of those tests.

00:15:40.140 We have a board of directors at arm's length from each other.

00:15:42.620 I'm not sure what it means to be factually controlled by a group of people.

00:15:46.180 Isn't that what a team of managers and editors do?

00:15:48.880 They sort of control it.

00:15:50.220 I don't even know what that means in English.

00:15:51.520 Here at The Rebel, we have a head of editorial, and we have a managing editor, and they take

00:15:56.620 pitches from our journalists, and they assign stories.

00:15:59.120 I make suggestions, too, but I don't assign stories on a daily basis.

00:16:02.600 I'll be honest.

00:16:03.200 We put out so many videos on any given day, I sometimes don't even have time to watch them all.

00:16:08.300 And unlike, say, the CBC, we don't have a sugar daddy.

00:16:10.660 We have thousands of little supporters.

00:16:12.940 No one supporter has ever given us more than 2% of our funds.

00:16:16.260 I think those rules were supposed to be some sort of anti-rebel poison pill, but it's not.

00:16:22.100 We're actually more legitimate, more grassroots, more Canadian than most of the media organizations

00:16:27.980 that would try to keep us out.

00:16:30.460 I mean, post-media, God love them, their bonds are held by a hedge fund in New Jersey.

00:16:38.300 I bet they're going to get most of the dough here, though.

00:16:40.300 Look, we're more independent.

00:16:41.380 We're more Canadian.

00:16:41.920 We're more supported by grassroots viewers than any of our competitors.

00:16:47.100 The only way to keep us out of this deal, and I say for the third time, I'm not a prostitute.

00:16:52.380 I'm not looking to be picked up by Justin Trudeau for a few pieces of silver.

00:16:56.420 No thanks.

00:16:57.520 The only way to keep us out would be to have this hyper-political board appointed by Trudeau

00:17:03.480 to say, oh, you're not a real journalist.

00:17:05.660 But don't take my word for that.

00:17:07.220 First, take the word of all of our competitors who are really excited about getting a sugar

00:17:13.060 daddy now, and they don't want us to get any of that action.

00:17:15.940 Here's Kent Driscoll.

00:17:17.040 He's a reporter with APTN.

00:17:20.300 He says, tax credits are a decent way to help support media.

00:17:24.560 Go buy a Toronto Star subscription and get it counted against your taxes.

00:17:28.180 Sticky Wicket is going to be when Ezra and his ilk come looking to get on the eligible list.

00:17:34.120 Panel needs to be really strong.

00:17:36.180 Ezra and his ilk.

00:17:40.340 I think they might be talking about you.

00:17:42.960 I think you might be our ilk.

00:17:47.040 But we are eligible under everything I just read to you.

00:17:50.300 What makes me and you ilk to be kept out by these fancy people, by a strongly partisan panel?

00:17:58.040 Am I not Canadian?

00:17:59.600 My great-grandfather homesteaded here in 1903.

00:18:02.960 I'm Canadian.

00:18:04.580 Do we not cover the news?

00:18:07.180 Look, it's our political stripe.

00:18:08.880 This is a bailout, a tit-for-tat for reporters being liberal.

00:18:13.160 Here's another gross media elite, Andrew Potter of the Ottawa Citizen.

00:18:18.040 That's a real picture of him, by the way.

00:18:20.100 He quoted that guy, Driscoll, and he added, if you see the bottom of his little entry, he said,

00:18:28.360 Who is Ezra, you ask?

00:18:30.260 And why should we be worried?

00:18:33.440 If you don't know the answer to that, then that's part of the problem.

00:18:38.400 What?

00:18:40.120 This is not even an answer to the question, who is Ezra?

00:18:42.620 Other than, look, if you know the secret handshake, you know it.

00:18:45.780 If you don't know it, you just don't know it.

00:18:46.960 We all know why it's wrong to let Ezra Levant and the rebel be called journalists or to let them in on an even footing.

00:18:53.900 And if you don't think so, you're part of the problem. 0.99

00:18:55.840 What a weirdo! 0.93

00:18:57.180 So, here's an article on the subject by Paul Wells.

00:19:01.980 That's Paul Wells on the bottom right there.

00:19:03.640 That's Althea Raj on the left.

00:19:05.080 And that's their friend Justin Trudeau sticking out his tongue.

00:19:08.980 He's personal friends with Trudeau.

00:19:11.340 And both Paul Wells and Althea Raj already take major payola from Trudeau in the form of CBC honoraria.

00:19:19.140 They get their mortgages paid by Justin Trudeau, really.

00:19:22.400 They'll surely be at the front of the line to this new trough of goodies.

00:19:27.540 And they know it's not just about rewarding friends of Justin Trudeau like themselves.

00:19:32.280 It's also about keeping out the rabble, the ilk. 1.00

00:19:35.500 Here's a line from Paul Wells about the panel of experts.

00:19:38.580 He wrote this in McLean's.

00:19:40.760 One suspects this line is designed to keep the kitty out of the hands of anyone named Ezra.

00:19:47.140 He actually wrote that in McLean's.

00:19:49.220 Hey, guys, I've got good news for you.

00:19:51.220 Paul, Althea, Andrew, whatever that first guy's name was, Kent.

00:19:56.660 I've got some good news for you.

00:19:58.000 And it's actually good news for all of us.

00:19:59.820 The good news for Paul Wells and Kent Driscoll, and I've never actually heard of Paul Driscoll,

00:20:06.780 Kent Driscoll before today, I should tell you.

00:20:08.780 And Althea Raj and that funny looking guy, Andrew Potter.

00:20:10.900 The good news is, guys, I'm not coming to take any of the money.

00:20:14.600 Don't worry.

00:20:15.640 I'm not getting in line.

00:20:16.720 I'm not butting in front of the line of you at the buffet.

00:20:18.700 I'm not taking a dime out of your pay packet.

00:20:21.380 So don't you worry.

00:20:22.380 You'll be able to pig out and there'll be one less piggy at the trough. 1.00

00:20:25.860 It's a good news for you.

00:20:26.920 And to Trudeau and the handpicked panel of experts who will come up with the list of, prove the list of QCJOs or Justin Journos or whatever.

00:20:37.560 Don't worry, guys.

00:20:38.960 Just like I would never degrade myself by trying to get one of those U.K. journalism licenses.

00:20:43.040 I'm not really interested in bending the knee for some washed up hacks to approve of me as a journalist. 0.92

00:20:49.000 I get approval enough for my own conscience every single day from the hundreds of thousands of people who watch Rebel viewers every day.

00:20:57.100 That's what actually makes you a journalist.

00:21:01.000 You do journalism.

00:21:02.680 And I suppose the second part is that somebody reads or watches your journalism.

00:21:08.660 Yeah, we are journalists here at the Rebel, probably more so than most of the people I've just named, because more people watch us.

00:21:16.620 So, good news for just about everybody here.

00:21:20.420 Good news for the panel.

00:21:21.580 They won't have to make up some excuse for why we're not journalists, but they are, even though I meet or exceed all their standards better than they do.

00:21:29.100 And good news for me.

00:21:31.740 Because everything I've ever told you has been proved true.

00:21:35.440 The media party is in the tank for Justin Trudeau.

00:21:38.300 And now they're on the take.

00:21:40.060 They will be corrupted by this money.

00:21:41.820 They already are.

00:21:42.660 You can't take money from a sugar daddy and pretend you're independent.

00:21:45.540 And that dependence, that submissiveness, it's not just theoretical now.

00:21:49.400 It's proven.

00:21:50.220 You have to be a QCJO.

00:21:53.240 Are you a QCJO?

00:21:54.360 Can I see your license?

00:21:55.880 You have to be a Justin Journo.

00:21:57.260 It's like a guild now, but instead of judging your skill, like, say, a dentist or a doctor, you're being judged on your loyalty to Trudeau.

00:22:06.600 And as if that wasn't enough proof, you've just heard it from Paul Wells, king of the Justin Journos, and Andrew Potter, and Kent Driscoll and all of them.

00:22:14.800 This really is about partisan politics and keeping out the ruffians like me and my ilk.

00:22:24.140 And that means you.

00:22:25.160 So I win, too.

00:22:26.020 Because now we at The Rebel here are the only journalists left in the country, along with Sheila Gunn-Reed, David Menzies, Kian Bexte, the rest of the Rebel team, maybe a handful of other minor independent reporters in this country, maybe five in the whole country.

00:22:41.540 Like that small outfit in Ottawa called Black Locks Reporter.

00:22:45.120 Maybe, you know, Spencer Fernando from Winnipeg.

00:22:48.320 Maybe there's half a dozen of us in the whole country who aren't being bought and sold.

00:22:53.000 And you know what?

00:22:54.860 Being able to say that we're the last free, independent, trustworthy journalists in all of Canada who aren't certified and inspected and funded by Trudeau.

00:23:06.600 That's worth a lot more to me than my share of the $595 million trough.

00:23:13.480 Don't you think?

00:23:15.620 Stay with us for more.

00:23:18.320 Welcome back.

00:23:35.880 Well, I was in the United Kingdom and traveling home when the massive attack in New Zealand happened.

00:23:42.820 I still hope to have my definitive comment on the subject before the week is out.

00:23:47.600 But I note that no one on the left is wasting any time putting that horrific crime to political use in New Zealand and Australia.

00:23:57.920 They're blaming the New Zealand and Australia right. 0.99

00:24:01.500 Anyone who questions immigration, anyone who is conservative at all.

00:24:06.100 Funny enough, in Canada, same thing.

00:24:08.040 In the UK, same thing.

00:24:09.340 And in the United States, it's Donald Trump who's to blame, apparently.

00:24:13.580 Let me show you a tweet from Ilhan Omar, one of the new Muslim Congresswomen, who says,

00:24:20.580 It's overdue.

00:24:22.540 Far-right extremists were linked to every extremist murder in the U.S. last year, including the Tree of Life and Parkland shootings.

00:24:30.140 They are not operating in a vacuum.

00:24:32.360 This is a crisis and it deserves national attention.

00:24:35.820 Is that true?

00:24:38.260 Joining us now via Skype from the greater Los Angeles area is our friend Joel Pollack, senior editor at large at Breitbart.com.

00:24:46.420 Joel, great to see you again.

00:24:47.340 I have in front of me not one, but three excellent articles you've written on the subject.

00:24:52.240 My favorite, I think, is from the far left ADL, the Anti-Defamation League, that's actually run by a former high Obama official.

00:25:02.000 So let me read the headline of it and then I'll let you expand.

00:25:06.160 The headline is ADL, extremist killings down 39% under President Donald Trump.

00:25:14.580 Take it away, Joel.

00:25:15.600 What's going on out there?

00:25:16.900 So the first thing to know is that the number of extremist killings in the United States is a very small number.

00:25:22.500 So you can have fluctuations in that number that look like very significant percentages, but overall may be statistically insignificant.

00:25:31.940 We're talking about a marginal phenomenon, whether the killings are on the left or the right.

00:25:36.580 They're certainly sensational in some cases, like the Orlando Pulse nightclub shooting in 2016, which was carried out.

00:25:45.080 You could call him a left-wing extremist, carried out by a left-wing extremist as part of an Islamist terror attack.

00:25:53.880 But the number overall, nevertheless, is still very small.

00:25:57.900 So Ilhan Omar is saying that Donald Trump is to blame, essentially, for the rise of white nationalism and extremism and so forth.

00:26:07.520 I'd argue the opposite.

00:26:08.740 If we're talking about white nationalism, it's probably more marginal than ever because the backlash against white nationalism has been so severe that people don't want to be associated with anything five football fields away from it.

00:26:26.760 They run away from anything that's even somewhere close to what it might be.

00:26:33.860 And partly it's because of the media's hyping of the small number of white supremacists, white nationalists.

00:26:40.380 They're very good at getting attention for themselves.

00:26:42.440 The media inflate them also because they like tarnishing Republicans with some sort of association, even though white nationalists are not Republicans.

00:26:50.000 Sometimes they're Democrats, they're opportunists because they'll do whatever it takes to make themselves more prominent than they deserve to be.

00:26:57.920 But anyway, Ilhan Omar was citing statistics saying that every extremist murder in the United States or every extremist related killing in the United States in 2018 was caused by a right-wing extremist.

00:27:11.640 Now, it's a funny kind of statistic.

00:27:15.520 The actual number of, quote-unquote, extremist related killings was 50.

00:27:20.280 This comes from a study by the Anti-Defamation League.

00:27:22.500 You'll note Ilhan Omar did not cite them directly because the Anti-Defamation League has been critical of her for her anti-Semitic remarks.

00:27:29.560 So she's not going to link to them directly.

00:27:31.620 The other reason she won't link to them directly is that if you look at the numbers, they don't quite work out the way she says they do.

00:27:36.440 So the number of extremist related killings was 50, but that doesn't mean that people in those 50 were killed for extremist reasons.

00:27:45.060 It turns out people who are extremists politically also have a lot of other problems.

00:27:50.240 They have behavior problems.

00:27:51.420 They may have drug and alcohol problems.

00:27:53.340 So those killings, the 50 killings, may have nothing to do with extremism whatsoever.

00:27:58.680 And, in fact, if you look at the ADL study, they find that the proportion of killings within those 50 that were committed for ideological reasons actually went down from the year before.

00:28:11.300 So the number of ideological killings is decreasing, is falling, not rising.

00:28:17.960 So the actual numbers behind that claim that she cited do not favor her argument.

00:28:23.000 In fact, they prove the opposite.

00:28:24.020 Moreover, if you look more closely at the ADL report, you find that there were 72 extremist related killings in 2016 and 70 in 2015, or the other way around, basically a total of 142.

00:28:37.900 That's in the last two years of Barack Obama.

00:28:40.280 In the first two years of Donald Trump, there were 50 extremist related killings in 2018 and 38 in 2017.

00:28:48.060 So that's only 88, and that is a sharp decline from where they were under Obama, their decline of 39%.

00:28:56.780 So, actually, as long as we're using the numbers that the left is now throwing out there, let's look at what the numbers say.

00:29:02.420 The numbers say Donald Trump has been more successful at fighting extremism than Barack Obama.

00:29:08.560 Or, to put it another way, white nationalism, since that's what they're calling this, white nationalism is decreasing, not increasing.

00:29:15.540 Now, that's playing with the numbers a little bit because some of the extremist killings under Obama weren't white nationalist killings.

00:29:22.480 They were on the other side.

00:29:23.520 They were Islamist killings, sometimes left-wing killings, explicitly so in the case of Black Lives Matter activists who shot police and that sort of thing.

00:29:31.780 But basically, we're arguing over marginalia.

00:29:34.360 I mean, these are very small numbers.

00:29:36.640 They're not necessarily—I haven't done the statistical analysis of them.

00:29:40.500 I highly doubt they're significant at all, even when they show a decline that's favorable to Trump.

00:29:46.240 I think this is all a bunch of nonsense.

00:29:48.460 They're trying to blame Trump for New Zealand, and they're trying to insulate radical Islam from criticism. 0.91

00:29:55.540 There is no contradiction between criticizing radical Islam and empathizing with innocent Muslims who were killed simply because they showed up to pray. 0.67

00:30:03.740 That, in fact, is the distinction between radical Islam and ordinary Islam, and you have to insist on that distinction because if you don't, you allow radical Muslims to represent the whole, which was the whole thrust of Obama's foreign policy, right?

00:30:15.660 That's why he never wanted to call radical Islam radical Islam because he didn't want to get them any prominence.

00:30:20.580 He didn't want people to conflate Islam with terrorism.

00:30:23.100 But you're doing that if you don't allow people to condemn radical Islam and also defend innocent Muslims.

00:30:28.840 So anyway, this is all part of Ilhan Omar's attempt to redirect criticism back onto the president.

00:30:34.860 The media are going along with it.

00:30:36.600 They see an opportunity to hurt the president by blaming him for what happened in New Zealand.

00:30:41.880 The killer in New Zealand happened to cite the president in his manifesto.

00:30:46.640 The media are generally only reporting one side of that.

00:30:49.220 They're citing that he praised Donald Trump as a symbol of identity, but they are ignoring the fact that the killer, the terrorist, also said Donald Trump did not behave as he would have wanted him to have behaved in office.

00:31:04.180 He said he didn't like Donald Trump's policies.

00:31:06.060 So he likes him as a symbol, but he doesn't like him as the president.

00:31:08.980 Well, what we're talking about is the president of the United States.

00:31:11.240 So I don't know if we should actually give any credence at all to this terrorist and what he thought.

00:31:15.440 But the media are definitely trying to establish a connection for all the usual obvious reasons.

00:31:20.660 Yeah.

00:31:20.940 Well, there's seven billion people in the world.

00:31:23.240 And because one of them kills 50 people and claims the president was his inspiration, actually, he didn't even claim that, did he?

00:31:30.200 Does not.

00:31:31.200 I mean, it's absurd to take that at face value.

00:31:34.520 But I think, and I haven't had a chance to go deeply through the manifesto of this mass murderer yet, I think he was extremely media savvy, social media savvy, and he did things that would be called trolling if it were done just online and peacefully.

00:31:51.960 I think, in fact, it may be that this entire project of mass murdering people in a mosque was a bizarre, murderous troll and done specifically to set in motion a political outcome. 0.54

00:32:08.460 In fact, that was contemplated in the manifesto.

00:32:10.340 He said he wanted to set society at war against itself.

00:32:13.620 But let me give you just one small example.

00:32:15.640 Some of our viewers know Candace Owens.

00:32:18.160 She's a young woman in the States, a black woman who, on YouTube a couple years ago, said, Mom, Dad, I'm coming out.

00:32:24.340 I'm a Republican.

00:32:26.140 And she's had a great political career since then.

00:32:30.060 She's affiliated with something called Turning Point USA.

00:32:33.180 I have had the pleasure of meeting Candace.

00:32:35.800 I don't think she's a particularly heavy-duty intellectual force.

00:32:40.700 She's more a political organizer. 1.00

00:32:43.520 I think she's great. 0.97

00:32:44.320 But let me quote to you from this alleged white supremacist murderer. 0.95

00:32:50.060 He said, 0.92

00:32:50.280 I mean, I laughed there. 0.95

00:33:13.840 I shouldn't laugh, Joel, because those are the words of a deranged murderer.

00:33:18.180 Candace Owens has never in her life called for violent means. 0.98

00:33:22.560 And for this purported white supremacist to say that a young black woman was the greatest influence in his life is so obviously a troll designed to embarrass her 0.78

00:33:35.500 and to cause her to be in controversy, I find it difficult to take anything in this manifesto and from this murderer seriously because I think he's, it's all tricks and it's all little buried nuggets designed to make the media go mad. 0.95

00:33:56.020 And I think he's been successful at that.

00:33:57.700 What do you think?

00:33:59.560 That was my reaction to at first.

00:34:01.840 I thought that it was a troll, an attempt to troll the media into disparaging Candace Owens.

00:34:07.540 And then I had another thought, which is that it's possible that the terrorist has a misimpression of what Candace Owens actually says.

00:34:14.980 And that misimpression has been conveyed by the media.

00:34:18.700 We don't hear about Candace Owens in the mainstream media. 0.98

00:34:20.900 We hear about her in conservative media, on her own social media channels.

00:34:24.880 I think she has a YouTube show now on PragerU.

00:34:28.240 And we hear from her on social media and new media, alternative media.

00:34:32.200 The mainstream media only took an interest when she was falsely accused of praising Hitler.

00:34:36.820 If you actually look at what she said, she talked about the fact that there are nationalisms that are healthy and that she did not regard Hitler as a nationalist because his ideology was, in fact, racist and expansionist and interventionist.

00:34:54.820 Now, you can argue with that.

00:34:56.540 I think Hitler was a nationalist, although certainly his racism, his racial thinking of the world, trumped his nationalism. 0.81

00:35:03.760 Hitler once said that if the Soviets won the war, they would have deserved to rule because it would have proven that the German nation or the German race was not, in fact, the strongest.

00:35:16.740 He really believed in this idea of a competition between races to dominate.

00:35:20.560 So it was really a misapplication, in a way, of Darwinism to human society, along with a lot of other bad ideas and hateful ideas.

00:35:30.740 So I think that's true, although I do also think Hitler was a nationalist. 0.68

00:35:36.260 But the point is she was having a discussion about how there are positive, healthy forms of nationalism that don't involve doing things that Hitler did.

00:35:45.160 But our media often associates nationalism with fascism.

00:35:50.960 The media reported her comments as if she were praising Hitler and saying that he would have been all right if he had just stuck to Germany.

00:35:56.920 And I think the killer may have been referring to that.

00:36:00.000 I think he actually may have been thinking about that interpretation of her of her remarks.

00:36:05.080 And he was name checking her as a way of legitimizing his own views, basically saying if an African-American woman can see nationalism as a good thing, then my nationalism is a universal principle.

00:36:17.640 And I will one day be celebrated – he actually wrote this in his manifesto – I'll be celebrated as Nelson Mandela was celebrated.

00:36:24.240 Now, that's crazy, but I think he was trying to make a point, which is that he was acting in the name of universal principles.

00:36:32.620 It's complete nonsense.

00:36:33.420 But I think that the media bear some of the blame for carrying some false ideas around the world.

00:36:40.940 And they say that Trump is to blame because of his rhetoric about radical Islam and so forth.

00:36:45.820 What about the media's role in convincing, perhaps, this neo-Nazi white supremacist that Trump empathized with him because they refused to report that Trump condemns neo-Nazis?

00:36:55.800 They keep reporting Trump as some kind of modern-day incarnation of Hitler.

00:36:59.800 Do we know who they're inspiring by that?

00:37:01.720 Do we know who they are encouraging to act out?

00:37:05.040 And same thing with this quote about Candace Owens.

00:37:08.660 I mean, when the media misreport what she says, do they not understand that they're encouraging people to justify fascism?

00:37:16.280 Because she's obviously not a fascist or a nationalist, but if she says Hitler was okay, which she didn't say, but if she's portrayed that way, then you're giving a positive spin to Hitler.

00:37:26.840 The media, they act as if there's no accountability whatsoever.

00:37:30.520 So I think that's a possible explanation for what he was doing.

00:37:33.620 Yeah.

00:37:33.840 You know, I've often said, you know, there's 300 plus million Americans.

00:37:38.300 If the media repetitively says Trump is the new Hitler, we know that's not true.

00:37:44.520 We know that he has a Jewish daughter, Jewish son-in-law, Jewish grandkids.

00:37:49.120 He's, he's, he led the pro-Israel parade in New York City years ago.

00:37:54.040 He moved the embassy to Jerusalem.

00:37:55.920 He's the Jewiest non-Jew in the White House since, I don't know, would that be Truman? 0.98

00:38:03.000 But here's the scary thing I always thought is if you tell 300 million Americans that he's the new Hitler, and if only 1% of 1% of 1% believes it, well, Joel, if you or I thought that the new Hitler was on the rise, you know, you're always, you know, would we try and stop him by any means necessary? 0.70

00:38:27.400 Would you or I give our lives even to stop Hitler before he came to power in 1933, before he started the Holocaust in, in, in full force several years later? 0.89

00:38:41.960 I think you tell 300 million Americans that Trump is Hitler, you say it often enough, someone's going to say, oh my God, he is Hitler.

00:38:48.960 I must do anything I can to stop him, including assassinating him, including using my own life to, to wipe out his because I can't let a new Hitler happen. 0.98

00:38:58.760 If you actually believe the media, some people would feel morally compelled to assassinate Trump. 0.99

00:39:05.020 Right.

00:39:05.780 I think that's true.

00:39:07.560 I think that when you compare him to Hitler, you're basically saying that all the normal rules can be abandoned against this man, that it's justified to do whatever it takes to stop him. 0.84

00:39:17.940 So I think that's correct.

00:39:19.180 And I think it is dangerous.

00:39:20.700 And I think it's also dangerous to the mental health of the country.

00:39:23.920 I think people are walking around with the idea that there's somehow been this fascist takeover.

00:39:28.540 Not a lot of people, but enough to, to really affect social interactions in this country.

00:39:33.420 It's definitely affected community life.

00:39:35.240 It's affected people's personal happiness, but it's affecting social media.

00:39:38.580 It's affecting our media.

00:39:39.720 I think it's made us a more unhappy place and not because of what, what Trump is doing, but which is generally perceived as very successful.

00:39:46.720 I mean, 71% in a CNN poll had a positive economic outlook, which is the highest, I think, since 2001 or 2000, basically since in 20 years.

00:39:56.320 They haven't measured this sort of level of enthusiasm about the economy.

00:40:00.040 So his policies are working.

00:40:01.340 They ought to be making people happier.

00:40:02.920 But our media keeps telling us that things are terrible and we're being taken over by stormtroopers and so forth, all of which is nonsense, complete nonsense.

00:40:11.420 So I think it does affect people.

00:40:13.880 And yes, for a deranged few who believe they should take matters into their own hands, it's inspiring them as well.

00:40:19.960 Yeah.

00:40:20.160 In this country, too, I think just yesterday or the day before, someone in Toronto was wearing a Make America Great Again hat, went on campus to some event and was basically screamed at that he was a racist simply for wearing that hat.

00:40:35.520 I myself received a bizarre email from our state broadcaster yesterday asking about our motto, Make Canada Great Again.

00:40:43.940 I think it's turned the media into madmen and it's launched.

00:40:48.340 I mean, the rage against that young Covington kid, Nicholas Sandman, just because he was wearing a Trump hat at the Washington, the Lincoln Memorial a few months ago.

00:40:59.440 I think it has caused a derangement out there.

00:41:02.740 I find it very troubling and I think you've shed a lot of light on the phenomenon.

00:41:07.220 Joel, I'm grateful for your time as always.

00:41:08.700 Thanks for joining us today.

00:41:09.860 Thank you.

00:41:10.900 All right, there you have it.

00:41:11.560 Joel Pollack is the senior editor at large of Breitbart.com.

00:41:15.740 Stay with us.

00:41:16.320 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:41:17.020 Hey, welcome back.

00:41:29.120 On my monologue yesterday about an election being called in Alberta for April 16th, Bernice writes,

00:41:34.320 Can you just cut Jason Kenney some slack here and let us get rid of this awful NDP government?

00:41:38.520 If you want to put him under a microscope after the election, have at it.

00:41:41.160 But the UCP is our only hope of stopping Rachel and her socialist government.

00:41:44.600 It's very suspect that these accusations have been made public right before the election

00:41:48.520 by people who hold a grudge against him.

00:41:50.400 It reeks of sour grapes to me.

00:41:53.140 Well, you're exactly right.

00:41:54.840 And I thought I conveyed that, but I'm obviously not.

00:41:59.220 That said, these accusations are factual.

00:42:03.460 They have the emails.

00:42:04.920 They have the proof of the meanings.

00:42:06.100 They have, you know, Jason Kenney and his staff confess it.

00:42:09.360 How could they deny it?

00:42:10.680 The only question is, is it illegal or just does it look really bad?

00:42:14.600 I think it looks really bad to be setting up a fake candidate to bash your opponent and

00:42:20.400 then endorse you. 0.93

00:42:21.320 I think that looks really gross.

00:42:23.280 I'm embarrassed that Jason Kenney felt he had to do that.

00:42:26.560 I've known Jason for more than 20 years.

00:42:29.760 I mean, I call him Jason.

00:42:30.940 I have to practice calling him Kenney.

00:42:33.780 He doesn't need, I mean, he sometimes wins his elections with 70, even 80% of the vote.

00:42:38.680 But it's sort of pitiful to me that he felt he needed to, I'll say cheat.

00:42:43.260 I'm not saying he broke a law.

00:42:44.420 I don't know that.

00:42:45.500 But I think it's sort of pitiful that he felt the need to cheat.

00:42:48.340 I mean, I have no particular affection for Brian Jean.

00:42:53.280 I like Brian well enough.

00:42:54.620 I just think it's sort of pitiful that Jason Kenney colluded to have a fake candidate run,

00:43:01.720 as they say, a kamikaze campaign against him.

00:43:04.020 I just think that's really sad.

00:43:05.560 And it makes me think what other shenanigans are out there.

00:43:07.900 That doesn't mean I would support at all the NDP.

00:43:10.660 I think we've made that crystal clear.

00:43:12.480 We just came up with a book called Stop Notley that Sheila Gunn-Reed wrote.

00:43:18.340 So I think it's pretty clear where we stand.

00:43:21.280 We've done more journalistic damage to Rachel Notley than the rest of the press gallery combined. 0.97

00:43:25.360 So yeah, we're as anti-Rachel Notley as you are.

00:43:27.880 But that doesn't mean we're going to say, yeah, Jason Kenney, that fake candidate thing

00:43:31.700 tricking the voters, that was really cool and really conservative.

00:43:35.300 Yeah, no, it wasn't.

00:43:37.600 Hal writes, I truly believe Kenney is a globalist.

00:43:40.800 Don't forget his recent stand on Muslim immigration to Alberta, not even a provincial matter.

00:43:45.000 Can't get my head around that one.

00:43:46.640 Notley is still more dangerous.

00:43:47.780 We should promote Sheila Gunn-Reed to run for premier, a true nationalist for Alberta

00:43:51.520 and Canada.

00:43:53.680 Yeah, Sheila would be great. 0.58

00:43:55.340 I think one day we will lose Sheila to elected office. 1.00

00:44:00.040 I think she would be a great MLA, a great MP, a great cabinet minister.

00:44:03.880 I think she's got a lot of common sense.

00:44:05.660 And I think she really understands her community.

00:44:08.540 So yes, we're lucky to have her.

00:44:10.320 And I have come to terms with the fact that one day we will probably lose her to public office. 0.99

00:44:15.740 On Sheila Gunn-Reed's new book, Stop Notley, The Case for Throwing Out the NDP, Paul writes,

00:44:21.820 I just ordered the book.

00:44:23.680 Hey, Paul, thank you very much.

00:44:26.100 I haven't checked in a few hours.

00:44:27.640 But last I checked, Sheila's book is already the number one political book on Amazon.ca.

00:44:35.920 And we haven't even really promoted it yet.

00:44:38.020 I just haven't checked the stats in a few hours.

00:44:43.580 But last I saw it was the number 47 book on the entire bestseller list, not just political

00:44:49.820 books, but any books, foreign, fiction, nonfiction.

00:44:54.780 You know, the big books are always the self-help books or the even cookbooks or, you know, if

00:44:59.480 there's a new Harry Potter or whatever, those are the big books.

00:45:01.600 So Sheila's book, last time I checked, was number 47 of all books in Canada, and I haven't

00:45:07.640 checked in hours.

00:45:08.240 So I am absolutely certain it'll be a number one bestseller probably as soon as tomorrow,

00:45:14.080 frankly.

00:45:14.900 So I hope you get a copy.

00:45:16.580 They're just five bucks for the e-book version or 10 bucks for the paperback version, which

00:45:21.440 I hope is ready right now.

00:45:23.260 And of course, we've got those fun lawn signs.

00:45:24.980 I'll probably have more stories for you about those tomorrow.

00:45:27.100 You can get all that at StopKnotley.com.

00:45:29.260 All right, folks, thanks for watching the show today.

00:45:30.760 We'll see you tomorrow.

00:45:31.560 On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, you at home, good night.

00:45:35.320 Keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - March 21, 2019

Trudeau’s new budget reveals bizarre details about $595M media bail-out

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