Rebel News Podcast - Trump grills Trudeau at NATO meeting, forcing answers Canadians have waited on for year

00:00:00.000 Hello, Rebels. Today, our dear leader, Justin Trudeau, was at a NATO meeting, and Donald

00:00:06.680 Trump asked him a very simple question in their press conference, cameras rolling. How

00:00:11.580 much do you spend on your military? Oh, he didn't like to answer that. I'll show you

00:00:17.220 the video clip, and I'll show you the truth. Even the CBC did a fact check on Trudeau,

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00:00:45.920 Tonight, at the NATO meeting, Justin Trudeau is grilled by Donald Trump. It's not pretty.

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00:01:23.640 Here's Justin Trudeau getting on a plane to London where the NATO leaders are having a

00:01:28.760 meeting. That's his son with him. I don't blame him. It's more interesting than going

00:01:32.160 to school, and Sophie isn't seen in public much with Trudeau anymore. I like that Trudeau,

00:01:37.320 I like that he waves, even when there's no one there other than a media party photographer.

00:01:43.220 He knows the media party will make it look like he was waving to adoring crowds. Speaking

00:01:48.500 of children, look at the submissive pose that Trudeau strikes when he's in the presence of

00:01:54.400 Trump. He always does this. He sits with his legs crossed like a good boy or something.

00:01:59.200 I find it very odd, very odd. He sits in a submissive way in the presence of powerful men.

00:02:05.240 Legs aren't crossed here, but he's very much being lectured by a master. That's George Soros.

00:02:11.240 It's different than how he is in the presence of women, including powerful women. With them,

00:02:16.000 he always asserts physical dominance. He touches them, he hugs them, even touches their bums, 0.89

00:02:22.140 as he does in the case with no one less than the governor general. He's really weird about things

00:02:27.000 like that. I think a lot of this traces back to his father and how his father, Pierre,

00:02:31.700 treated women and men. I don't quite get it. But enough amateur psychology on my part. Look at

00:02:36.780 what actually was said. Donald Trump is trying to get NATO allies to increase their military spending

00:02:42.880 to raise it to 2% of GDP. It's not really that much. That's 1 50th of our GDP. Think of it as an

00:02:53.820 insurance policy on being free. I mean, it's not nothing, but it's hardly onerous.

00:02:59.500 Now, when actual Canadian soldiers ask Trudeau to spend more on the military,

00:03:05.540 serving military or veterans, including wounded veterans, here's what Trudeau has to say to them.

00:03:11.180 First of all, why are we still fighting against certain veterans groups in court? Because

00:03:18.520 they're asking for more than we are able to give right now.

00:03:22.240 Yeah, but Trudeau always manages to find money when it's, say, Omar Cotter or something that Trudeau

00:03:29.400 thinks is really cool. You know, he literally gave $50 million of our money to some scheme just

00:03:38.100 because Trevor Noah, the US late night talk show host, was pitching it just for some momentary buzz

00:03:44.360 on a viral tweet. But our military, not so much. We're barely spending half of our NATO requirement.

00:03:53.100 1.27% of our GDP. I'm sorry to be mean, but we're freeloaders. Of course we are. We have been for

00:04:02.220 almost a century and no one would quarrel with that in absolute terms. I mean, we have one-tenth the

00:04:07.740 population of the United States, less than one-tenth the wealth of the United States. But we're the

00:04:12.800 second largest country in the world geographically with a huge coastline. So obviously we're going

00:04:18.260 to need some help defending our airspace, our territory, especially in the north. The Yanks 1.00

00:04:23.940 were only too happy to help, especially considering how we punched above our weight in the Second World

00:04:28.960 War. And in Korea, too, we were there. But over the years, really starting during Pierre Trudeau's

00:04:34.100 tenure, we pretty much shut down our military, at least in many respects. Did you know Canada used to

00:04:40.140 have an aircraft carrier? And instead we used the money for social programs? In a way, the United

00:04:47.520 States simply subsidized us. They took care of our defense spending, so we spent the money

00:04:52.060 on welfare and hospitals and schools. Or actually, come to think of it, all those things are provincial

00:04:57.420 matters. So more like the Fed spent their money on things like the CBC and official bilingualism and

00:05:05.000 multiculturalism and foreign aid, including the China. So now Donald Trump is saying, hey, NATO allies,

00:05:12.380 pull your weight. He's saying that to every NATO ally, especially to France and Germany. And they

00:05:18.200 hate it, but they are doing it. I mean, just strictly from an economic point of view, imagine if the United

00:05:24.960 States withdrew its military from Germany. It's had bases there since the end of the Second World War.

00:05:31.160 Imagine the billions of dollars a year that would cost the German economy. Trump's just saying, hey,

00:05:39.000 we're happy to put the man and machinery there, but can you pay a little bit yourself? Here's Trump

00:05:44.020 at an earlier NATO meeting making that exact case.

00:05:47.540 After years of cutting defense budgets, they have started to add billions to their defense

00:05:55.280 budgets. And last year was the biggest increase in defense spending across Europe and Canada in a

00:06:01.780 generation. Why was that last year? It's also because of your leadership, because of your clear

00:06:07.080 message. And they won't write that. No, I have said it before. But the thing is that

00:06:12.900 it really has, your message is having an impact.

00:06:19.340 Yeah. By the way, in the feverish imagination of the left and so much of the media,

00:06:25.080 Donald Trump is supposed to be the secret agent for Vladimir Putin. Now, if that's true,

00:06:29.880 he's got to be the worst Russian spy in history. He's spending his time pressuring European 1.00

00:06:35.460 countries to rebuild their armies. Oh, and by the way, to not buy natural gas from Russia.

00:06:41.380 Pretty bad Soviet agent, if you ask me. Anyways, back to today. Here's how it went in London. Just watch. 0.86

00:06:50.120 Mr. President, Canada does not meet the 2% standard. Should it have a plan to meet the 2% standard?

00:06:57.280 Well, we'll put them on a payment plan, you know? We'll put Canada on a payment plan, right? I'm sure

00:07:01.480 the prime minister would love that. What are you at? What is your number?

00:07:04.820 The number we talked about is 70% increase over these past years, including, and for the coming

00:07:12.560 years, including significant investments in our fighter jets, significant investments in our

00:07:19.520 naval fleets. We are increasing significantly our defense spending from previous governments that cut.

00:07:25.100 Okay. Where are you now, in terms of your number? We're at 1.35? 1.3. 1.4. 1.4. And continuing to move forward.

00:07:37.260 They're getting there. They know it's important to do that. And their economy is doing well. They'll get

00:07:43.580 there quickly, I think. Look, it's to their benefit. And the President knows well, as well, that Canada has

00:07:49.320 been there for every NATO deployment. We have consistently stepped up, sent our troops into

00:07:55.820 harm's way. We're leading in Iraq. We're leading in NATO, in Latvia. We continue to step up. Like

00:08:03.820 most of our allies, there are some countries that, even though they might reach the 2%, don't step up

00:08:10.580 nearly as much. And I think it's important to look at what is actually being done. And the United States

00:08:16.000 and all NATO allies know that Canada is a solid, reliable partner that will continue to defend

00:08:21.680 NATO and defend our interests. And we do have tremendous coordination with radar, with all of

00:08:27.400 the different things that, you know, technologically, we have tremendous coordination between Canada and

00:08:31.920 the United States. How amazing was that, that bluster from Trudeau, avoiding the question of what our

00:08:39.000 percentage is, just throwing baffle gab in the air. Now, that's normal for Trudeau. And back here in

00:08:45.060 Canada, the media party just accepts it. They don't push back. Trump is used to that, I think.

00:08:52.540 Trump himself has a young son, not as young as Trudeau's son. Trump's youngest son, Barron, is 13.

00:08:59.300 I'm guessing that Trump has to ask difficult questions more than once to get through a

00:09:03.380 teenager's non-answers. It's part of growing up to take responsibility even for tough questions. So

00:09:09.660 I think Trump's used to Trudeau's BS style. He just waited for Trudeau's BS to end. And then he

00:09:18.480 calmly asked the question again. So what's that number again? How much are you spending as a

00:09:24.060 percentage of your GDP? What's the number? That's all he wanted to know. You could hear a voice saying

00:09:30.300 1.35 percent. Trudeau rounds up to 1.4 percent. Yeah, no, that's a lie. Here's a CBC article of all

00:09:42.740 places, written literally this afternoon. Trudeau's own state broadcaster. So you know they love him.

00:09:49.440 You know this is the most favorable possible interpretation. They're his sonographers. He

00:09:54.060 pays them. But even they just couldn't lie with a straight face on something so easily

00:10:00.620 checkable. Let me quote. In fact, at 1.27 percent of GDP, Canada's defense spending is nowhere near

00:10:10.760 that level. Oh, the CBC is saying that. So yeah, Trudeau lied. Do you think Donald Trump didn't know

00:10:21.220 exactly the amount that Canada spends as a portion of our GDP before he even asked that question? Do

00:10:29.080 you really think he didn't know that he wasn't told, that he wasn't briefed? That's all he cares

00:10:35.280 about is that number. You saw that in the earlier NATO. All Trump has ever done in his life, by the

00:10:40.680 way, is negotiate and make deals. Do you doubt he knew in advance Trudeau's position? What Trudeau was

00:10:46.700 at before asking for more? I mean, we know Trudeau doesn't do his readings, doesn't prepare, doesn't

00:10:53.340 look at his briefing notes. He's more about smiling and selfies. But all Trump does is deals.

00:11:01.200 And think about it. Trudeau's lie of 1.4 percent of GDP instead of the truth, 1.27 percent of GDP.

00:11:09.080 Well, what do you know? That's actually pretending we spend 10 percent more than we do.

00:11:13.320 So work with me here. Follow me. Just by embarrassing Baron Von Fancy Socks, just by making

00:11:24.020 him panic under this questioning on live TV, making him lie in the heat of the moment, Trump

00:11:32.580 got Trudeau to commit to a significant spending increase. You can look at it that way. The difference

00:11:41.760 between the truth, 1.27 percent of GDP, and the lie, 1.4 percent GDP, is 0.13 percent of

00:11:52.220 GDP. It sounds so tiny, right? But Canada's GDP is around $2 trillion. So that little fib

00:12:02.660 there, that's about $2.6 billion a year more that Justin Trudeau just pretended to spend,

00:12:08.240 just committed to. Well, he didn't really commit to it. He claimed he was already doing

00:12:12.360 it. That's a 10 percent increase in our military budget. Isn't that amazing? I think that's

00:12:17.240 the fastest negotiation and surrender negotiation in history. Trump, in 90 seconds, got Trudeau

00:12:23.940 to blurt out a commitment to a 10 percent increase in military spending. I don't think Trudeau will

00:12:29.640 keep that promise, by the way. But he made that promise sitting, what, three feet away from

00:12:34.320 Donald Trump? I mean, sure. There were lies even in those numbers, and even in his explanations.

00:12:41.120 A significant investment in fighter jets? Don't lie. I mean, I suppose if by that you mean buying

00:12:47.220 30-year-old used fighter jets from Australia, we're buying their old F-18s that they're getting rid of

00:12:54.660 so they can buy the new F-35s like the rest of the first-ranked militaries in the world. So,

00:12:59.520 yeah. New fleets of ships? Yeah, I mean, I guess so. I mean, Trudeau himself tried his best to cancel

00:13:05.480 a ship that Harper had commissioned. Remember that? Vice Admiral Mark Norman stopped that

00:13:11.640 cancellation, and in vengeance, Trudeau falsely accused him of breaching his oath of loyalty and

00:13:16.780 prosecuted him for a crime. Deployments overseas? It's true. It's true. We have some. There's no doubt

00:13:24.460 about that. It's also true that the very first thing Trudeau did when he became prime minister in

00:13:29.160 2015, in fact, even before he was sworn in, he told the United States that he was pulling out

00:13:36.460 our CF-18s from the war against ISIS. Even Barack Obama, who was still U.S. president, then thought

00:13:43.840 Trudeau was a slacker, a free rider. If Obama's calling you a slacker? But as Mercedes Stevenson,

00:13:51.240 a military expert and pundit, tweets out, even Trudeau's juiced numbers are fake.

00:13:58.380 It includes pension spending on bureaucrats. It includes RCMP deployments to Afghanistan. I mean,

00:14:04.440 maybe that's military spending, I guess, if you really stretch it, but it's like a school board

00:14:10.060 coming up with excuses right down to the weird leg crossing. So yeah, Trudeau, embarrassing on the

00:14:16.920 world stage? You bet. Absolutely taken to the cleaners by Donald Trump again, the way we were

00:14:22.140 on the NAFTA renegotiation? You bet. Shown to the world to be like a teenager explaining why he didn't

00:14:28.220 do his homework? You bet. Humiliating? I guess, but nothing we didn't already know about Trudeau.

00:14:35.120 He's dumb. Like I say, maybe something good will come out of it. It's also one more thing. It's a 1.00

00:14:41.380 reminder of how weak and submissive Canada's media party is. In 90 seconds, Donald Trump can get better

00:14:48.980 answers and more accountability from Justin Trudeau than four years of fake questions from our fake

00:14:55.560 news media. Stay with us for more.

00:15:11.380 Well, that is a video vignette from a couple of years ago, Melania Trump at the White House.

00:15:38.920 I don't know if you heard some of those kids. They said she was so beautiful.

00:15:43.360 She was like an angel. And indeed, it's true. Melania Trump, a former supermodel,

00:15:48.160 a high fashion glamour queen who is now the first lady and yet has not graced a women's magazine since

00:15:56.320 Donald Trump has become president. It's clearly a political snub, but she still has her style,

00:16:03.140 even if the fancy people don't think so. And she has decked out the White House this year

00:16:07.640 again in her exquisite style. Here's some images released by the White House of her designs.

00:16:18.380 Surely, they're newsworthy. Surely, they're beautiful. But for the fact, she's married to

00:16:26.020 Trump. And so the media party has been trashing her and her style. Joining us now to talk about this 1.00

00:16:32.880 inversion of beauty is Mary Margaret Olihan, the social issues correspondent for The Daily Caller,

00:16:39.920 who joins us now by Skype from Washington. Nice to meet you, Mary Margaret. Welcome to the show.

00:16:45.720 Thanks for having me.

00:16:46.720 Well, I read your Twitter stream and I had no idea that the media party, which is, I call the mainstream 0.95

00:16:53.780 media, has moved from just ignoring Melania Trump to actually claiming she looks ridiculous, 0.99

00:17:02.820 this is awful. I mean, it's one thing for them to ignore beauty, but for them to call beauty ugly, 1.00

00:17:09.220 it's crazy. Yeah, it's very weird. It's very, very odd, to say the least. So she decorated the White House

00:17:17.060 so beautifully with all these decorations, very classic Christmas decorations. And you'd think

00:17:23.920 they would look at them and say, okay, these are classic Christmas decorations. Like, we'll sit back

00:17:28.040 on this one. But no, they have to go and attack her over this. So she's been lambasted over these

00:17:33.280 Christmas decorations. Critics have said that they look like they're out of the shining or that they

00:17:38.160 look cold and creepy. And there was one Washington Post article that said that her coat

00:17:43.840 was ridiculous. As I said, okay, the Christmas decorations are fine, but Melania's coat looks 0.95

00:17:49.320 ridiculous. So they're just trying to find every way to mock her and to make fun of these beautiful 0.97

00:17:54.180 Christmas decorations. And it's very concerning as to why, why they would be doing this. And the

00:18:02.320 answer probably is that she's married to President Donald Trump, as you were saying.

00:18:05.960 Well, I can't think of any other possible answer. I mean, Jackie Kennedy was very beautiful.

00:18:11.060 I think that she's perhaps the only rival in just standard objective terms of beauty to Melania. 0.99

00:18:21.160 But I, and Melania is completely inoffensive. She never takes stands. She's not a crusader like 0.59

00:18:27.760 Michelle Obama was. She's not trying to ban tasty snack food from high schools. I mean, she's not a

00:18:34.720 crusader. There's really no way to dislike her other than the obvious, which is she happened to

00:18:40.520 marry a Republican president that the media doesn't like. 1.00

00:18:44.240 Right. No, she's very graceful. She's very composed. She spends a lot of time on her Be Best 0.73

00:18:49.280 campaign, which I know it's part of this Christmas theme. I think she had Scrabble letters on some of

00:18:54.400 the Christmas trees, spelling out the words Be Best, which is, you know, a very like bipartisan

00:19:00.520 campaign designed to unite people across the board to help children. But again, she's still being

00:19:07.200 attacked for these things. And if you compare this to how Michelle Obama was treated with her

00:19:13.180 Christmas decorations, you can go back and look at what Michelle Obama used. Her decorations were also

00:19:18.060 beautiful. I mean, you can compare and contrast. Other people might have different tastes, but

00:19:23.020 they were fine Christmas decorations. But she was treated with no disrespect whatsoever. Everyone

00:19:30.240 just praised her decorations. Now, Michelle and Barack even allowed Christmas decorations to be sent in

00:19:37.440 from different groups, which had put these Christmas decorations together. And they allowed a Christmas

00:19:42.800 decoration with a picture of Mao on it, a Chinese dictator who killed thousands of people to hang on a

00:19:49.740 Christmas tree in the White House. They also allowed a Christmas ornament to hang on a tree in the White

00:19:54.840 House showing a drag queen, which are things, you know, like those are controversial elements. You

00:20:00.160 don't see controversial elements like that in this year's White House. There's a nativity scene,

00:20:05.840 which is actually like welcomed by many Christians across the country, considering that's what Christmas

00:20:11.000 is all about. So it's just two very different playing fields that we're looking at here, Michelle and

00:20:16.700 Melania. Yeah. Well, I mean, Mao, of course, killed 50 million by modest estimates. It was shocking to me.

00:20:24.320 And he was an atheist. It's not just that he was a murderer, Mao Zedong. He explicitly rooted out any

00:20:31.080 religiosity, punished any Christians, especially. Right. You know, sometimes when, I mean, I'm not a model,

00:20:38.460 despite a lot of people saying I got it in me. I'm joking around. Of course, I got a face for radio. So I try not to

00:20:47.520 criticize other people because I know how hideous I am. But the critic who you mentioned, who said

00:20:55.140 Melania looked ridiculous in her coat, I just couldn't help by saying, well, who is she? And it's 0.89

00:21:00.940 this lady, Robin Given, of the Washington Post, shown here. And I don't know, if I was Robin Given,

00:21:11.580 I'm not sure if I would be calling Melania supermodel Trump ridiculous. But that's just me. 0.73

00:21:17.860 Maybe that's the job of the Washington Post is to call him. Sorry, go ahead.

00:21:22.280 I don't think any of us should be calling a supermodel ridiculous. I think that's taken a 0.66

00:21:27.500 lot on ourselves there. Well, I mean, listen, I just think that of all the people in the White 0.97

00:21:33.760 House, the only people who are nonpartisan are Melania, and even more so, Barron Trump,

00:21:40.040 who is frequently attacked by the media or criticized in weird ways, especially up here in

00:21:46.520 Canada. I don't know why. I find it very strange. Do you think it hurts Melania's feelings? I saw her

00:21:53.360 at an anti-drug event. I think it was in Baltimore. I can't remember where. And there were boos. I mean,

00:22:01.380 she was there. It was the most nonpartisan thing you could imagine. She's there to talk about, hey,

00:22:06.300 let's stay off of opioids. And she was booed. She was booed. And I got to think, if you're a human

00:22:14.500 being, that's going to sting you, even if you are a supermodel first lady. 1.00

00:22:20.660 No, that's definitely got to hurt, especially when you're trying to attempt something

00:22:25.020 that's going to help people and that you don't think is a partisan issue. But I think at this

00:22:31.260 point, she probably understands that this is going to happen no matter what, because of who she's

00:22:35.380 married to and because of what her first lady status represents. I mean, she comes part and parcel 1.00

00:22:42.820 with Donald Trump now because she's his first lady. And she probably understands that at this

00:22:47.320 point. And when she was booed in Baltimore, actually, she responded really well. And later

00:22:53.680 she said she said she respects everyone's opinions and that she's glad that everyone is able to express

00:23:00.120 themselves. And she hopes to continue to do her best work for her Be Best campaign. So that's a

00:23:05.780 dignified response, which I think everyone can respect.

00:23:08.380 Yeah. You know, there's a theme in the media because she's so reticent. She's not chatty with 1.00

00:23:16.640 the press like Michelle Obama was. I think one reason is she's not invited to do the view.

00:23:21.700 She's not invited to do the circuit like Michelle Obama was. And I think they would try and tear her 1.00

00:23:31.840 to shreds if she did. So she's a bit of an enigma. But I have a theory. And it's that the media either

00:23:38.940 hates her, but they know they don't really have a basis for that. And that's sort of unfair. So they

00:23:43.900 have an alternative thesis, which is she's a prisoner of Donald Trump. And she really wishes she could

00:23:51.520 flee. And look, here's a picture of her we snapped where she's not smiling. I think there's a deliberate

00:23:58.280 photographic choice by photo editors in the United States to choose pictures of Melania Trump that are not

00:24:05.900 smiling. A smiling picture of a supermodel would sell copies. So economically, commercially, news

00:24:14.060 worthiness, a smiling Melania Trump would be a golden picture. But they so much want the narrative. She's 1.00

00:24:20.320 trapped. She wants to flee. They'll literally wait for the unhappy picture and say, that's the state of our 1.00

00:24:26.520 First Lady. So they either hate her, or they want to portray her as yet another victim of Trump. What

00:24:31.920 do you think of that theory? I mean, she looks good, but she's not smiling, too. So it's a win-win

00:24:36.580 for her. But no, I think I definitely think you're right that they do seek out positions to make her 0.82

00:24:42.960 look unhappy. They would love to have as much animosity as possible. I remember a couple years ago,

00:24:47.720 they were really excited about photos where she wouldn't let Trump hold her hand. And they made such a big

00:24:54.960 fuss about that. But at the end of the day, I think there's every married woman has a day when

00:24:58.640 she doesn't want to hold her husband's hand, you know, nobody's perfect. So there's just a lot of

00:25:03.400 hype around their relationship and the media would love to get in there and stir up animosity where

00:25:10.220 maybe there is none. So we all just need to stay in our place and report the news and not go looking

00:25:14.920 for trouble where there is none. Yeah. There was a moment a few months ago where Melania was out of the

00:25:20.960 public site for a few days because she actually had surgery as an inpatient in the hospital. And oh,

00:25:26.320 my God, the rumors, she's left him. Where is she? Well, she was just in the hospital. I mean, it's

00:25:32.420 utterly insane. But listen, I agree with you. And it's fun for us to show some beautiful images

00:25:38.040 of Melania Trump making the White House beautiful. I mean, not every single second of every single day

00:25:44.240 needs to be an adversarial political moment. And I think Melania Trump is classy and certainly a lot 1.00

00:25:52.080 classier than the haters who hate her. Mary Margaret Olihan, it's a pleasure to talk with you today.

00:25:57.100 Thanks for being here. Oh, thanks so much for having me. Our pleasure. Well, there you have it. Mary

00:26:01.460 Margaret Olihan is the social issues reporter for The Daily Caller in Washington, D.C. Stay with us.

00:26:07.700 More ahead on the road. Hey, folks, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about China. Peter writes,

00:26:22.560 if this is coming to Canada, I'm moving to Poland. What a disgrace to humanity. 1.00

00:26:26.980 I take your point. But of course, in Poland, people use Facebook, Twitter, and I'm sure they use

00:26:31.960 WeChat and TikTok, too. Neil writes, reminds me of Sadiq Khan's hate crime hub, where the police will

00:26:39.800 happily come around for a chat or arrest you for social media posts. Oh, you're so right. I told you

00:26:45.320 before, the Metropolitan Police itself has 900 hate crimes cops to just do nothing but prowl Facebook

00:26:51.260 all day. 900. Maybe that's why they had another terrorist attack on London Bridge the other day,

00:26:57.360 because the cops are busy knocking on old ladies' doors saying you're too mean when you talk about 1.00

00:27:03.060 Brexit. On the civil war between Canadian conservatives, David writes, I don't think

00:27:09.000 Scheer is the right guy to beat Trudeau. Otherwise, he would have. We need someone more edgy, combative,

00:27:13.620 and unafraid to take on the mean girls in the media and the climate emergency zealots. I'm not sure who

00:27:18.800 that is right now, but I'm hoping someone emerges. Well, you might have seen my friend Corey tonight

00:27:23.820 on other media saying Andrew Scheer's got to go. I asked Corey, and I don't think he'd mind me

00:27:29.740 sharing his answer. I said, well, who are you going to beat him with? You can't replace someone with no one.

00:27:36.600 Jason Kenney chose to become the premier of Alberta. Who really is there to succeed Andrew Scheer?

00:27:42.240 Please don't say Peter McKay. Well, Corey responded to me, and again, I don't think I'm speaking

00:27:46.280 at confidence. He said, well, if you have a leadership review, names will emerge, and that's quite likely true.

00:27:52.440 As you know, I'm not a real booster of Andrew Scheer, but right now I'm looking around and thinking,

00:27:58.160 well, who else is there? And it's not a long list. As to your point about showing courage and spine

00:28:07.000 and backbone, what's so interesting to me is I observed that the attacks on Andrew Scheer are

00:28:11.760 coming from both the social conservative left and right. So, for example, you have LGBTQ

00:28:18.540 Tories saying you have to be more with it and hip on gay marriage, and you have pro-life

00:28:24.880 conservatives saying you were so wishy-washy you didn't stand up for us. How can they both

00:28:29.740 be mad at him? Well, it shows that he's not clear about being who he is. Contrast that to Donald Trump,

00:28:34.900 who, by the way, is pro-gay. I mean, he held up an LGBT sign at a rally, but he's also pro-life.

00:28:45.100 And he is who he is. And both sides know who he is, and he's not trying to trick anyone. He's not

00:28:51.040 saying different things to different people. And I think there's a lesson there. Donald Trump

00:28:55.620 certainly has his rough edges, but there's no denying he'll tell you exactly what he thinks

00:28:59.920 about things, and he'll fight you for it. Andrew Scheer's sort of the opposite. He won't tell you what

00:29:05.460 he believes in things. He'll sort of mutter, and he won't fight you for it. He's as impressionable as

00:29:10.760 a seat cushion. I think that's the problem. Even if he were a red Tory, at least if he were 0.87

00:29:16.140 with conviction, people could say, all right, he's got some flaws, but at least I know who he is.

00:29:20.560 Can you tell me who Andrew Scheer is even after going through this election? We should do a thing,

00:29:25.700 you know, we call it streeters. We go onto the street and interview random people. We should do

00:29:29.000 streeters to see if anyone even knows his face even after an election. I think we're going to do that.

00:29:35.160 All right, that's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel

00:29:38.720 World Headquarters, good night, and keep fighting for freedom.

Rebel News Podcast - December 04, 2019

Trump grills Trudeau at NATO meeting, forcing answers Canadians have waited on for year

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