Rebel News Podcast - July 20, 2018


Trump hints at a NAFTA without Canada — but Trudeau remains in denial


Episode Stats

Length

32 minutes

Words per Minute

161.86952

Word Count

5,322

Sentence Count

310

Misogynist Sentences

15

Hate Speech Sentences

13


Summary

While Trudeau remains optimistic, America is getting close to a trade deal with Mexico. Is it game over for the North American Free Trade Agreement, at least when it comes to NAFTA? Well, it kind of looks that way. After all, just check out what President Donald Trump said yesterday, namely that the U.S. might just hammer out a separate trade agreement with Mexico, and that discussions with his Mexican counterpart are going quite well.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Tonight, NAFTA without Canada?
00:00:03.200 While Trudeau remains optimistic,
00:00:05.480 America is getting close to a trade deal with Mexico.
00:00:08.780 It's July 19th, I'm David Menzies,
00:00:11.020 and this is the Ezra Levent Show.
00:00:18.560 Why should others go to jail
00:00:20.200 when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:00:22.420 There's 8,500 customers here,
00:00:24.620 and you won't give them an answer.
00:00:26.140 You come here once a year with a sign,
00:00:27.940 and you feel morally superior.
00:00:29.140 The only thing I have to say to the government
00:00:31.520 about why I publish it
00:00:33.120 is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:00:39.500 Is it game over for the North American Free Trade Agreement?
00:00:43.160 At least when it comes to NAFTA Classic?
00:00:46.680 Well, it kind of looks that way.
00:00:48.680 After all, just check out what President Donald Trump said yesterday,
00:00:52.780 namely that the U.S. might just hammer out
00:00:55.040 a separate trade deal with Mexico,
00:00:57.320 and that discussions with his Mexican counterpart
00:01:00.620 are going quite well.
00:01:03.640 With the new president of Mexico,
00:01:06.460 who won overwhelmingly,
00:01:09.200 and we're doing very well on our trade agreement,
00:01:12.940 so we'll see what happens.
00:01:14.820 We may do separately with Mexico,
00:01:16.640 and we'll negotiate with Canada at a later time.
00:01:20.320 But we're having very good discussions with Mexico.
00:01:25.620 Yeah, so just call this impending new deal NAFTA lite.
00:01:30.300 You know, a brand new, whiz-bang,
00:01:32.280 North American Free Trade Agreement,
00:01:34.900 minus that part of North America known as Canada.
00:01:39.380 Now, in fairness, Trump said a separate trade deal
00:01:42.440 might be reached with our great dominion at a later date.
00:01:45.720 Perhaps, maybe, hey, don't call us, we'll call you.
00:01:50.300 But certainly, there doesn't seem to be any urgency
00:01:53.020 for Trump to get a deal done with Ottawa.
00:01:55.640 And for some reason, I don't think Justin Trudeau
00:01:58.460 is on the president's speed dial list at the moment,
00:02:02.580 especially considering the most important part
00:02:05.940 of a trade negotiation for Trudeau
00:02:08.080 is trying to include a gender clause in the deal.
00:02:12.180 Now, on the flip side, check out Trump's recent comments
00:02:15.920 regarding a proposed new deal between the U.S. and Mexico.
00:02:20.020 A Financial Post story notes that the two nations
00:02:22.980 are indeed getting closer to reaching a trade deal.
00:02:27.120 Just listen to President Trump.
00:02:29.600 We have had very good sessions with Mexico
00:02:32.760 and with the new president of Mexico
00:02:37.260 who won overwhelmingly.
00:02:38.820 And we're doing very well on our trade agreement.
00:02:44.620 As for Canada, well, it would appear
00:02:47.000 that the great blight north barely registers
00:02:49.840 as a footnote of a footnote for the time being,
00:02:53.100 even though Trudeau says he's still optimistic
00:02:57.200 about a new NAFTA deal being reached.
00:03:00.800 What does Justin base such optimism on?
00:03:04.580 Wishful thinking?
00:03:05.460 Perhaps a recent visit to an Ottawa storefront psychic?
00:03:09.880 Or maybe Chrystia Freeland
00:03:11.380 has instilled confidence in our prime minister.
00:03:14.780 Remember when she started crying
00:03:16.540 when trade negotiations with Europe
00:03:18.640 weren't going well?
00:03:19.920 We have worked very hard with the European Commission
00:03:23.840 and with a lot of countries and members of the European Union.
00:03:28.100 The Canada has worked really hard.
00:03:30.660 And personally, I've worked very hard.
00:03:32.580 But it seems evident for me, for Canada,
00:03:42.500 that the European Union is not able to have an international agreement,
00:03:50.180 even with a country that has such European values like Canada.
00:03:59.100 And even with a country that is such a kind of country
00:04:04.140 and with a lot of patience like Canada.
00:04:07.900 Yikes.
00:04:10.460 Then again, maybe she can win over the president with emojis.
00:04:15.620 The European Trade Commissioner, Cecilia Malmstrom,
00:04:18.060 and I call each other sisters in trade.
00:04:21.660 We sign our emails, hugs.
00:04:24.280 Really?
00:04:24.540 You actually do that?
00:04:25.580 Yes, we do.
00:04:26.200 Wow.
00:04:26.580 We sometimes send each other smiley faces
00:04:28.440 in particularly difficult moments.
00:04:30.020 If that doesn't give you the same confidence
00:04:34.600 the Prime Minister Trudeau has,
00:04:36.600 then maybe Freeland's team of millennials
00:04:39.960 will assure you that Canada can outsmart
00:04:42.980 the master negotiator, Donald J. Trump.
00:04:46.880 Or maybe Justin has discovered a way
00:04:49.980 to alter the time-space continuum
00:04:52.240 so that it can whisk back into the not-so-distant past,
00:04:56.380 specifically June 9th.
00:04:57.600 That's when Justin, in a strikingly dumb
00:05:01.420 post-G7 news conference,
00:05:03.900 said the U.S. decision to impose tariffs
00:05:06.060 on Canadian steel and aluminum
00:05:07.920 on national security grounds was insulting.
00:05:12.460 I highlighted directly to the president
00:05:15.080 that Canadians did not take it lightly,
00:05:20.840 that the United States has moved forward
00:05:23.500 with significant tariffs on our steel and aluminum industry,
00:05:26.600 particularly did not take lightly the fact
00:05:30.100 that it's based on a national security reason,
00:05:33.580 that for Canadians who either themselves
00:05:37.400 or whose parents or community members
00:05:40.840 have stood shoulder to shoulder
00:05:42.360 with American soldiers and far-off lands
00:05:45.520 and conflicts from the First World War onwards,
00:05:51.000 that it's kind of insulting.
00:05:55.940 Well, the president didn't like that very much,
00:05:59.500 and he quickly tweeted his response
00:06:01.460 right from Air Force One,
00:06:03.640 stating that Trudeau was both dishonest and weak.
00:06:07.080 Ouch!
00:06:08.100 And White House Trade Advisor Peter Navarro,
00:06:11.300 well, he went even further.
00:06:12.700 Have a listen to what he had to say.
00:06:14.740 Chris, there's a special place in hell
00:06:17.360 for any foreign leader
00:06:18.600 that engages in bad-faith diplomacy
00:06:21.340 with President Donald J. Trump
00:06:23.140 and then tries to stab him in the back
00:06:25.880 on the way out the door.
00:06:27.720 And that's what bad-faith Justin Trudeau did
00:06:30.280 with that stunt press conference.
00:06:32.380 That's what weak, dishonest Justin Trudeau did.
00:06:36.720 How dare you, Mr. Navarro?
00:06:38.940 You see, that special place in hell
00:06:40.920 is already reserved for Trudeau
00:06:42.460 based on a multitude of other reasons,
00:06:45.460 like fast-tracking that multimillion-dollar
00:06:48.420 taxpayer payout plus public apology
00:06:51.200 to a convicted terrorist.
00:06:53.240 But I digress.
00:06:54.680 Even so, is it any wonder
00:06:56.500 that consumer confidence in Canada
00:06:58.620 continues to plunge?
00:07:00.400 After all, a debilitating trade war
00:07:02.660 with our biggest trading partner
00:07:04.580 would prove devastating.
00:07:07.100 For example, Trump has already floated
00:07:09.680 the idea of imposing a 25% tariff
00:07:12.900 on all new vehicles going into Canada
00:07:15.460 from the U.S.
00:07:16.520 That would add thousands of dollars
00:07:18.820 to the price of an average new car.
00:07:21.500 Translation, if you're thinking about
00:07:23.560 snagging a new set of wheels, folks,
00:07:26.020 I really think you should visit
00:07:27.700 your friendly neighborhood auto mall ASAP.
00:07:31.140 But the fallout from an impending trade war
00:07:34.080 between Canada and the U.S.
00:07:35.540 won't just mean higher consumer prices.
00:07:38.540 It might just grease the wheels
00:07:40.560 for an all-out recession,
00:07:43.180 at least according to a report by Scotiabank.
00:07:45.840 And the real tragedy
00:07:47.240 is it didn't really have to be this way.
00:07:50.140 If only our virtue-signaling prime minister
00:07:53.000 could have kept his big mouth shut,
00:07:55.800 or if he had negotiated in good faith.
00:07:59.340 President Trump said that Trudeau
00:08:01.360 made a big mistake,
00:08:03.000 and it's going to cost us a lot of money.
00:08:06.640 I actually like Justin.
00:08:08.340 You know, I think he's good.
00:08:09.760 I like him.
00:08:10.760 But he shouldn't have done that.
00:08:11.740 That was a mistake.
00:08:12.580 That's going to cost him a lot of money.
00:08:14.900 In the meantime,
00:08:16.020 as Mexico and the U.S.
00:08:17.400 remain engaged in cordial talks
00:08:19.380 en route to a free trade deal,
00:08:22.080 it would appear Canada is on the outside
00:08:24.520 looking in as we lurch down the road
00:08:27.120 of engaging the U.S. in a trade war
00:08:29.680 that nobody wants.
00:08:31.920 Oh, sunny ways, sunny ways indeed.
00:08:35.760 Stay with us for more, folks.
00:08:53.520 Well, this just in,
00:08:54.920 President Trump and his Mexican counterpart
00:08:57.420 Enrique Peña Nieto
00:08:59.160 are apparently getting along very well indeed.
00:09:02.660 So well, in fact,
00:09:03.660 that the U.S. and Mexico
00:09:05.180 might just hammer out
00:09:06.920 a new bilateral trade deal
00:09:09.260 between the new nations.
00:09:11.100 The thing is,
00:09:11.980 Canada had a chance
00:09:13.040 to also negotiate bilaterally with the U.S.,
00:09:15.960 but chose not to pursue this route
00:09:18.420 mainly due to, well,
00:09:20.700 due rigueur virtue signaling
00:09:22.540 so beloved by the Trudeau liberals,
00:09:24.660 which is to say that
00:09:25.920 even a trade agreement
00:09:27.280 can't simply be about trade.
00:09:30.360 No, it must include provisions
00:09:31.840 about gender and climate change
00:09:34.500 and indigenous rights.
00:09:36.300 So no deal for us.
00:09:38.560 With more on the latest follies
00:09:40.420 on the trade deal front
00:09:41.940 is Sheila Gunn-Reed,
00:09:43.100 host of The Gun Show.
00:09:44.400 Welcome to the Ezra Levent Show, Sheila.
00:09:46.940 Hey, David.
00:09:47.740 Thanks for having me.
00:09:48.660 Always a pleasure, my friend.
00:09:49.800 So, Sheila,
00:09:50.620 far from securing a trade deal
00:09:52.440 with the U.S.,
00:09:53.280 we might just be headed
00:09:55.120 for a trade war.
00:09:57.280 How in the world
00:09:58.040 did we get into this predicament
00:09:59.420 in the first place?
00:10:01.680 Well, as the kids say,
00:10:03.260 this could be us,
00:10:04.360 but we were playing.
00:10:06.280 You know,
00:10:07.000 and my kids are cringing
00:10:09.520 to hear me talk like that.
00:10:12.200 But, you know,
00:10:14.580 like all we had to do
00:10:15.360 was shut our mouths.
00:10:16.220 We literally could have been
00:10:17.540 the people renegotiating
00:10:19.160 a bilateral trade deal
00:10:20.660 with the states.
00:10:22.280 I mean,
00:10:22.820 Manny had such a great point
00:10:25.800 when he said that
00:10:26.780 we were not on Donald Trump's radar
00:10:29.060 going into NAFTA renegotiations.
00:10:32.740 We put ourselves on the radar
00:10:34.260 because Justin Trudeau
00:10:35.580 couldn't shut his big fat mouth.
00:10:37.900 And then we had, you know,
00:10:38.980 our diplomats
00:10:40.720 and our trade minister
00:10:42.440 adding all sorts of ridiculous stuff,
00:10:44.860 like you raised
00:10:46.300 the indigenous issues
00:10:47.740 into NAFTA,
00:10:49.100 gender issues into NAFTA,
00:10:51.740 environmental issues into NAFTA.
00:10:54.260 And quite frankly,
00:10:55.080 these are issues
00:10:55.800 that Canada really doesn't
00:10:57.800 have the ability to argue
00:10:59.840 from a position of power on
00:11:01.680 or any credibility at all.
00:11:03.820 You know,
00:11:04.320 there's a certain amount of chutzpah,
00:11:06.160 especially about the climate change
00:11:08.080 provisions there, Sheila,
00:11:09.380 because, you know,
00:11:10.420 I think this came to the front
00:11:13.080 this week about
00:11:14.400 it was a climate change report card
00:11:16.640 that came out
00:11:17.360 showing the top 10 nations
00:11:19.600 in terms of experiencing decreases
00:11:22.120 in CO2 emissions
00:11:23.220 and the top 10 nations
00:11:25.260 in terms of increases.
00:11:26.480 Lo and behold,
00:11:27.460 number one in terms of decreases
00:11:29.180 is the U.S.
00:11:30.660 And one of the nations
00:11:32.020 on the bottom 10 list
00:11:34.820 in terms of most increase
00:11:36.280 is Canada.
00:11:37.440 So it's a little presumptuous
00:11:39.320 for us to be lecturing the U.S.
00:11:41.900 on climate change,
00:11:43.280 wouldn't you think?
00:11:45.140 Well, yeah,
00:11:46.040 especially since the last three years
00:11:48.500 in that report
00:11:49.300 showed that Canada
00:11:50.020 has increased every single year.
00:11:51.540 So that would be the last three years
00:11:53.320 that the liberals have been in power.
00:11:55.420 And then, you know,
00:11:56.020 when they try to inject
00:11:56.960 Indigenous issues into NAFTA,
00:11:59.720 I mean, let's be real.
00:12:01.180 Justin Trudeau campaigned
00:12:02.420 on getting clean drinking water
00:12:04.760 to our First Nations reserves,
00:12:06.680 and he hasn't moved the needle
00:12:08.100 on that issue at all.
00:12:09.420 And yet he has the audacity
00:12:10.820 to issue the Americans on that.
00:12:13.100 And gender, like, come on.
00:12:16.380 Justin Trudeau,
00:12:17.360 Prime Minister Happy Hands
00:12:19.120 and his harem of female enablers
00:12:21.860 are going to lecture the Americans
00:12:23.760 about what's best for ladies?
00:12:26.080 No.
00:12:26.720 No.
00:12:27.140 It's not happening.
00:12:28.080 And Sheila, on that point,
00:12:30.160 I'm sorry to be so Neanderthal here,
00:12:33.280 but what in the world
00:12:35.020 does gender have to do
00:12:36.800 with a free trade deal?
00:12:40.220 Well, it shouldn't.
00:12:41.140 I mean, you would think that
00:12:42.340 jobs and lower taxes
00:12:45.420 and free trade,
00:12:46.680 well, those are women's issues for me.
00:12:49.800 Like, unemployment rates,
00:12:51.620 those are women's issues for me.
00:12:53.620 And I mean,
00:12:54.120 if there are more jobs
00:12:55.660 circling around the economy,
00:12:57.360 then naturally,
00:12:58.660 there's more female workplace
00:13:00.680 participation rates.
00:13:01.860 But they want this gender-based analysis
00:13:04.460 thingamajigger
00:13:05.280 overlaid on every single trade deal
00:13:07.540 and every single project.
00:13:08.840 And I don't even understand
00:13:09.900 what that thing is.
00:13:11.420 You know, and here's the,
00:13:13.380 you know, the dire part of this.
00:13:15.560 I think, Sheila,
00:13:16.300 far from a trade agreement,
00:13:18.620 we might be headed towards a trade war.
00:13:20.720 And we're talking, I mean,
00:13:21.780 President Trump at one point
00:13:23.120 said that a 25% tariff
00:13:25.560 on vehicles coming from the U.S.
00:13:27.920 into Canada,
00:13:28.820 that adds thousands
00:13:31.080 and thousands of dollars
00:13:32.200 to the price
00:13:32.780 of an average new car
00:13:34.040 in Canada.
00:13:34.840 I would say
00:13:35.780 if anyone's in the market
00:13:37.200 to buy a new car,
00:13:38.540 get to the dealership
00:13:39.700 this weekend
00:13:40.300 and start negotiating
00:13:41.860 because you might be ahead
00:13:43.180 of the game
00:13:43.880 the way things are panning out
00:13:45.060 right now.
00:13:46.440 Well, and if you work
00:13:47.820 in the auto industry,
00:13:48.660 maybe now's the time
00:13:50.020 to start shopping around
00:13:51.500 for a new job
00:13:52.400 because those trade tariffs
00:13:54.300 are going to devastate.
00:13:55.780 The Ontario economy
00:13:57.120 just as it's poised
00:13:58.120 to recover from a decade
00:14:00.040 or so of liberal mismanagement.
00:14:02.520 And out here in Alberta,
00:14:03.540 I mean,
00:14:04.620 we're never going to see
00:14:06.060 a pipeline built
00:14:07.180 under either Notley
00:14:08.340 or Justin Trudeau.
00:14:09.380 The only pipeline
00:14:10.300 that I see
00:14:11.320 in the predictable future
00:14:12.660 being built
00:14:13.360 is Keystone XL.
00:14:15.400 And the only way
00:14:16.900 that's ever going to be built
00:14:18.280 is if President Trump
00:14:19.760 looks favorably upon Canada
00:14:21.960 and Justin Trudeau
00:14:22.800 seems to be doing
00:14:23.380 everything he can
00:14:24.220 to annoy the Americans
00:14:25.500 right now.
00:14:26.760 And speaking of which,
00:14:27.920 Sheila,
00:14:28.140 if you were an advisor
00:14:29.460 to Justin Trudeau,
00:14:31.260 let's pretend
00:14:31.920 you're the female equivalent
00:14:34.020 of Gerald Butts,
00:14:35.540 what would you be telling
00:14:37.200 the Prime Minister
00:14:38.260 to do right now
00:14:39.460 to right this ship
00:14:40.920 and to, you know,
00:14:42.420 bury the hatchet
00:14:43.200 and get a deal done
00:14:44.640 much like it seems
00:14:46.440 that is going to be
00:14:47.320 the case with the U.S.
00:14:48.640 and Mexico?
00:14:50.860 Well, if I were
00:14:51.860 the female equivalent
00:14:52.780 of Gerald Butts,
00:14:53.660 I'd be telling
00:14:54.100 Justin Trudeau
00:14:54.680 to fire myself.
00:14:56.360 But I thought
00:14:57.720 you were going to say
00:14:58.340 I'd be telling
00:14:59.500 Justin Trudeau
00:15:00.080 to stop groping me.
00:15:01.240 But no,
00:15:01.740 anyways, go ahead.
00:15:04.700 You know,
00:15:05.280 it's time for
00:15:06.200 Justin Trudeau
00:15:07.000 to swallow his pride
00:15:08.600 and call in
00:15:09.580 the big guns.
00:15:10.940 Enough with
00:15:11.660 Krista Freeland
00:15:12.280 and her crying
00:15:12.940 at the trade deals.
00:15:13.940 It's time to call in
00:15:14.940 the likes of
00:15:15.620 Brian Mulroney
00:15:16.540 or Paul Martin,
00:15:18.760 people from both sides
00:15:20.520 of the political spectrum,
00:15:21.800 although pretty close
00:15:22.660 to each other
00:15:23.160 on the political spectrum,
00:15:24.820 and people who are
00:15:26.200 friendly with Donald Trump,
00:15:27.440 who understand business,
00:15:28.660 who understand trade deals.
00:15:30.460 It's time to set aside ego
00:15:32.820 and save some jobs
00:15:34.360 and save the Canadian economy.
00:15:36.700 Yeah, indeed,
00:15:37.520 because, I mean,
00:15:38.540 this all stems back,
00:15:39.740 doesn't it, Sheila,
00:15:40.540 to it was that
00:15:41.440 disastrous press conference
00:15:42.860 after the G7th
00:15:45.300 back on June 9th,
00:15:46.520 I believe it was,
00:15:47.260 and Justin was talking
00:15:50.180 about tariffs
00:15:50.980 on Canadian steel
00:15:52.060 and aluminum
00:15:52.880 on national security grounds
00:15:54.840 as being insulting,
00:15:56.440 and the president
00:15:57.440 immediately tweeted
00:15:58.560 from Air Force One
00:15:59.880 that he wasn't happy
00:16:00.860 with that.
00:16:01.880 It seems that,
00:16:03.220 you know,
00:16:03.500 maybe what Trudeau
00:16:04.760 has to do
00:16:05.560 is read that book
00:16:08.240 by that very same president,
00:16:09.980 The Art of the Deal,
00:16:10.900 because he doesn't seem
00:16:12.500 to understand
00:16:13.560 the nuances
00:16:14.960 and the strategies
00:16:16.520 involved in negotiating
00:16:19.000 a deal to begin with.
00:16:21.880 Do you think
00:16:22.760 Justin Trudeau
00:16:23.420 has negotiated anything
00:16:24.920 in his entire life?
00:16:26.480 Like, really?
00:16:28.060 I mean,
00:16:28.880 the guy was born wealthy,
00:16:30.400 silver spoon in his mouth.
00:16:31.380 I don't begrudge him
00:16:32.260 his wealth,
00:16:32.980 but I bet you
00:16:34.400 he's not as penny-pinching
00:16:35.720 and frugal as I am,
00:16:37.100 if you know what I mean.
00:16:37.960 I drive a hard bargain
00:16:38.860 at a garage sale.
00:16:39.780 I think that
00:16:40.540 Justin Trudeau
00:16:41.100 has no clue
00:16:42.360 what it's like
00:16:43.840 to deal with
00:16:44.720 the movers
00:16:45.320 and shakers
00:16:46.040 of the business world,
00:16:47.340 and it's really
00:16:48.100 showing right now.
00:16:49.120 You know,
00:16:49.680 I think you've touched
00:16:50.460 upon something
00:16:51.080 very profound here,
00:16:52.300 Sheila,
00:16:52.720 and you're right.
00:16:53.720 I mean,
00:16:54.400 Donald Trump
00:16:55.560 made a success
00:16:56.720 of himself
00:16:58.040 in one of the
00:16:58.840 most rough-and-tumble
00:17:00.540 real estate markets
00:17:01.480 in the world
00:17:02.060 in New York City.
00:17:03.720 Justin Trudeau,
00:17:04.660 a trust fund baby,
00:17:06.360 has had everything
00:17:07.800 given to him
00:17:08.720 on the proverbial
00:17:09.780 silver platter,
00:17:11.040 so maybe
00:17:12.000 he's not in tune
00:17:13.740 with the reality
00:17:14.640 of what's required
00:17:16.500 to have a negotiation
00:17:17.920 for a trade deal,
00:17:19.120 and that's why
00:17:19.580 he brings in
00:17:20.300 all this baggage
00:17:21.940 about gender
00:17:23.200 and indigenous rights
00:17:24.680 and climate change,
00:17:25.800 which should have
00:17:26.820 nothing to do
00:17:27.600 with a trade deal.
00:17:29.740 Well, no,
00:17:30.460 and he thinks
00:17:31.000 real people
00:17:31.540 actually care about that.
00:17:32.860 Real people
00:17:33.320 don't care about
00:17:34.200 those sorts of issues
00:17:35.100 being injected
00:17:35.760 into business deals.
00:17:36.840 We want to get
00:17:37.460 the deal done.
00:17:38.380 I mean,
00:17:38.640 look at how poorly
00:17:39.780 the Liberals
00:17:40.420 negotiated
00:17:41.860 the purchase
00:17:42.940 of the Kinder Morgan
00:17:43.900 Trans Mountain
00:17:44.580 Pipeline.
00:17:45.120 They overpaid
00:17:46.160 for it,
00:17:46.700 and I was reading
00:17:47.260 the news today,
00:17:48.120 in two months
00:17:49.400 no constructions
00:17:50.400 even started on that,
00:17:51.600 and yet they told us
00:17:52.700 if they bought
00:17:53.640 this pipeline,
00:17:54.360 construction would start
00:17:55.440 and all the opposition
00:17:56.900 would magically disappear.
00:17:58.660 They just don't
00:17:59.240 understand what it's like
00:18:01.020 in the real world.
00:18:03.160 Well, Sheila,
00:18:03.900 time will tell
00:18:04.540 how this plays out.
00:18:05.380 We'll have to end it here,
00:18:06.220 but I'm telling you,
00:18:07.060 it is really tragic
00:18:09.620 that we could have had
00:18:11.500 a bilateral trade deal
00:18:12.960 and instead we might
00:18:14.040 get into a trade war,
00:18:15.340 and this trade war,
00:18:17.080 I think,
00:18:18.160 might grease the wheels
00:18:19.580 for a recession
00:18:20.360 for this country
00:18:21.320 if things really
00:18:22.980 get heated up.
00:18:23.900 So, hopefully,
00:18:25.740 somebody in the Trudeau
00:18:27.280 cabinet will come
00:18:28.460 to their senses
00:18:29.080 and try to make amends
00:18:30.460 and get a deal done.
00:18:32.440 You know,
00:18:34.340 I hope you're wrong,
00:18:35.900 but I think you're right.
00:18:37.360 Okay, then.
00:18:39.500 There you go.
00:18:40.520 Sheila, thank you so much
00:18:41.480 for joining us,
00:18:42.060 and that was Sheila Gunn-Reed,
00:18:43.560 folks,
00:18:44.040 and keep it here.
00:18:45.100 More of the Ezra Levin
00:18:45.980 show to come
00:18:46.640 right after this.
00:18:59.160 Well, as we head into
00:19:00.540 next year's federal election,
00:19:02.080 yesterday,
00:19:03.180 Justin Trudeau
00:19:04.060 shuffled his cabinet.
00:19:05.240 Now, most of the
00:19:06.040 senior cabinet ministers,
00:19:07.780 they're still there,
00:19:09.160 but there were a couple
00:19:10.140 of notable things
00:19:11.360 about this cabinet shuffle.
00:19:13.700 First of all,
00:19:15.180 guess what, folks?
00:19:15.920 It's not a gender equity
00:19:17.420 cabinet anymore.
00:19:18.380 It's 18 males
00:19:20.500 and 17 females,
00:19:22.980 and also Bill Blair
00:19:26.020 has been appointed
00:19:27.480 to the newly created role
00:19:29.540 of Minister of Border Security
00:19:31.640 and Organized Crime Reduction.
00:19:35.280 Whatever does that all mean?
00:19:37.720 Well,
00:19:37.980 someone who definitely
00:19:39.220 has some thoughts
00:19:39.940 on this matter
00:19:40.580 is Toronto Sun columnist
00:19:42.640 extraordinaire,
00:19:43.780 Joe Worthington.
00:19:44.620 Thanks for joining me here,
00:19:45.700 Joe.
00:19:46.000 It's good to be back
00:19:46.800 two days in a row.
00:19:47.980 Well,
00:19:48.720 it was so nice
00:19:49.760 we did it twice, right?
00:19:51.100 Now, Joe,
00:19:51.700 first of all,
00:19:53.540 Bill Blair,
00:19:54.480 I'll play my cards here.
00:19:56.140 I wasn't a fan
00:19:57.200 of Bill Blair
00:19:57.880 when he was the chief
00:19:58.940 of police going back
00:20:00.060 several years ago.
00:20:01.760 What sort of cemented
00:20:03.640 my opinion
00:20:04.520 about Chief Blair
00:20:05.720 was it was a press conference
00:20:07.320 and I believe
00:20:07.920 it was in regard
00:20:08.620 to an officer
00:20:09.500 that had been killed
00:20:10.260 on duty.
00:20:11.760 And Bill Blair,
00:20:13.240 and I'm paraphrasing here,
00:20:14.300 these aren't direct quotes,
00:20:15.160 but he was saying
00:20:15.860 something along the lines
00:20:17.020 of, you know,
00:20:17.960 we, the police,
00:20:19.420 we can't just be concerned
00:20:20.860 with justice.
00:20:22.040 We also have to take
00:20:23.620 social justice
00:20:25.080 into consideration.
00:20:26.880 And Joe,
00:20:27.180 I'm thinking social justice.
00:20:28.940 This is the kind
00:20:29.680 of claptrap we hear
00:20:30.840 on the, you know,
00:20:31.720 the campus of Ryerson
00:20:32.900 and U of T.
00:20:33.760 It's ironic that
00:20:34.580 in 2010 during G20,
00:20:37.320 you know,
00:20:37.600 he was obviously
00:20:38.560 not doing much
00:20:39.440 social justice that day.
00:20:40.980 Good point.
00:20:41.380 And you covered that.
00:20:42.320 Yeah.
00:20:42.500 And so it is
00:20:43.700 an interesting thing.
00:20:44.400 He's a politician.
00:20:45.480 And he's got
00:20:46.460 what he should have
00:20:47.420 had all along,
00:20:48.140 which is a cabinet position.
00:20:49.480 And because it's 2018,
00:20:51.200 you know,
00:20:51.700 the balance isn't there.
00:20:53.240 But I think this is actually
00:20:55.360 an interesting decision
00:20:56.740 by the prime minister
00:20:57.680 because it shows you,
00:21:00.040 you know,
00:21:00.400 on one front
00:21:01.220 how,
00:21:02.720 even though they kind
00:21:03.380 of gloss it over
00:21:04.180 and call everybody
00:21:04.900 un-Canadian,
00:21:06.100 that they are responding
00:21:07.060 to the concerns
00:21:07.980 at the border.
00:21:08.680 But that's really not what,
00:21:10.380 you know,
00:21:10.760 the kind of fine print
00:21:11.880 would, you know,
00:21:12.700 which we'll talk about now.
00:21:13.700 Oh, and Joe,
00:21:14.160 before we get into that
00:21:14.920 fine print,
00:21:15.400 you raise a good point,
00:21:16.400 though.
00:21:17.360 Just, you know,
00:21:18.640 days, hours
00:21:20.000 before this announcement,
00:21:21.740 you had Prime Minister Trudeau
00:21:23.840 and Gerald Butts
00:21:24.920 and Minister Hussein
00:21:26.260 saying there is
00:21:27.320 no border crisis,
00:21:28.300 there is no migrant crisis.
00:21:30.720 And then suddenly,
00:21:31.660 hours later,
00:21:32.700 we have a minister
00:21:33.600 of border security.
00:21:34.940 So kind of a mixed message,
00:21:36.780 wouldn't you say?
00:21:37.280 It is a mixed message,
00:21:38.800 but, you know,
00:21:39.340 this is all about
00:21:40.400 the upcoming war
00:21:42.300 with organized crime
00:21:43.560 for the marijuana market
00:21:45.000 in Ontario
00:21:45.780 and in Canada.
00:21:47.380 And that's what
00:21:48.600 this is about.
00:21:49.240 So the government
00:21:50.320 is now beefed up
00:21:51.440 and they have
00:21:52.500 a former cop
00:21:53.580 and a 10-year
00:21:54.400 chief of police
00:21:55.280 in Bill Blair
00:21:55.940 that's going to oversee this.
00:21:57.980 And he'll,
00:21:58.360 it'll be interesting
00:21:59.000 to see, you know,
00:22:00.260 how he marshals,
00:22:01.660 you know,
00:22:02.060 his,
00:22:02.660 can he marshal
00:22:03.420 the RCMP
00:22:04.120 or the OPP?
00:22:04.980 Does he work
00:22:05.340 with the provinces?
00:22:06.700 Because make no mistake,
00:22:08.520 there is going to be
00:22:09.700 a marijuana war
00:22:10.920 over who controls
00:22:12.480 the market.
00:22:13.060 Is it going to be
00:22:13.920 the Canadian people
00:22:15.500 and the private industry
00:22:17.260 that's run a lot
00:22:17.960 by chiefs of police?
00:22:19.180 Or is it going to be
00:22:20.140 organized crime
00:22:20.820 that don't follow
00:22:21.440 the environmental rules
00:22:22.520 or any of the rules
00:22:23.320 and they can undercut
00:22:24.480 the price?
00:22:25.600 And we've seen already
00:22:26.420 what, you know,
00:22:27.440 it's happened right here
00:22:28.340 with the Amory's
00:22:29.120 and all these different stores
00:22:30.200 and it's happened
00:22:31.340 in every city,
00:22:32.040 but, you know,
00:22:32.760 I work in Toronto
00:22:33.500 so I notice it,
00:22:35.080 where they shut down
00:22:36.000 all the mom and pop,
00:22:37.080 you know,
00:22:37.780 distiller,
00:22:38.360 or dispensaries.
00:22:39.760 Yes.
00:22:40.380 And that was using
00:22:41.300 the police as the muscle,
00:22:43.300 you know,
00:22:43.720 to go against
00:22:44.380 these companies
00:22:45.060 that are on,
00:22:46.140 you know,
00:22:46.340 the public markets
00:22:47.260 trying to raise
00:22:48.160 millions and billions
00:22:49.380 of dollars
00:22:49.820 on marijuana sales.
00:22:51.280 So, you know,
00:22:51.980 I find what you're saying
00:22:53.060 absolutely fascinating, Joe,
00:22:54.360 because I never thought
00:22:55.000 of it until just now
00:22:56.360 with your response.
00:22:57.560 So, what you're saying
00:22:58.920 is that Bill Blair's role
00:23:00.920 is going to be
00:23:01.660 less about
00:23:02.480 border security,
00:23:03.480 it's going to be
00:23:04.180 more about part two,
00:23:05.740 organized crime reduction,
00:23:07.340 meaning preventing
00:23:08.640 illegal marijuana
00:23:10.300 from getting into the country
00:23:11.240 because it's all really
00:23:13.360 about money.
00:23:14.680 The government
00:23:15.180 wants its
00:23:16.680 piece of the action
00:23:18.140 through the legalized channels
00:23:19.880 when we finally get
00:23:21.480 this system going.
00:23:22.580 Because for the last,
00:23:23.680 you know,
00:23:24.080 I don't know
00:23:24.500 whatever the years are,
00:23:25.580 but the last 50 years,
00:23:26.740 the marijuana sales
00:23:27.640 have not been
00:23:28.300 through the government
00:23:29.120 or through legalized,
00:23:31.000 you know,
00:23:31.300 private sector.
00:23:32.840 So, that's changing.
00:23:34.400 So, now there's a new
00:23:35.660 player in the town
00:23:36.560 that's saying move over
00:23:37.500 everybody else.
00:23:39.000 We're it.
00:23:39.560 We're legal.
00:23:40.080 Well, you're going to have
00:23:40.540 to police the other guys
00:23:41.780 because they're not going away.
00:23:43.520 And so, that's what
00:23:44.280 this move is about.
00:23:45.220 And also,
00:23:45.640 the guns that come
00:23:46.300 across the border
00:23:46.980 to help enforce the war
00:23:48.280 which is coming.
00:23:49.520 This is not a time
00:23:50.480 to be cutting back
00:23:51.640 on police.
00:23:52.500 This is a time
00:23:53.240 to be, you know,
00:23:54.000 getting ready for the war
00:23:55.160 that's going to happen.
00:23:56.540 You thought the war
00:23:57.320 on drugs
00:23:57.840 was a problem before,
00:23:58.940 but now that you are
00:24:00.000 the biggest drug dealer
00:24:01.080 in terms of the government,
00:24:02.920 you're going to have
00:24:03.500 to fight the people
00:24:04.260 that want, you know,
00:24:05.040 to sustain their own market.
00:24:06.940 Well, you know, Joe,
00:24:07.680 I'm not an expert
00:24:08.640 on marijuana
00:24:09.600 to say the least,
00:24:10.960 but the more I read
00:24:12.560 about this particular file,
00:24:14.520 the more I think
00:24:15.860 this is going to be
00:24:17.560 an absolute epic disaster
00:24:20.440 in the way
00:24:21.080 it's being rolled out
00:24:21.840 just from
00:24:22.700 the negligible effect
00:24:24.760 it's going to have
00:24:25.300 on the grey and black market
00:24:26.600 and also what I'm
00:24:27.680 really concerned about
00:24:28.660 is the kind of
00:24:29.860 potential carnage
00:24:30.980 we're going to see
00:24:31.560 on the road
00:24:32.100 with people
00:24:32.900 that are driving high.
00:24:35.360 It's all based on a lie
00:24:36.980 and the lie is
00:24:37.880 that marijuana is okay.
00:24:39.300 It's just okay.
00:24:40.480 And so we're going to
00:24:41.640 find out what it does.
00:24:42.920 Now, it's not something
00:24:43.860 that you or I
00:24:44.780 would partake in
00:24:45.680 or haven't,
00:24:46.780 but you know,
00:24:47.220 come October
00:24:48.020 when they make it legal
00:24:49.140 and you've got a sore knee
00:24:50.580 and you think,
00:24:51.140 I don't want to go
00:24:51.460 to the doctor,
00:24:52.540 I can go down
00:24:53.160 and buy it
00:24:53.660 at a government store.
00:24:54.460 It's perfectly legal.
00:24:56.060 Well, maybe some,
00:24:56.960 you know,
00:24:57.200 some 50 something
00:24:58.440 people are going
00:25:00.040 to go down
00:25:00.420 and do that
00:25:00.780 for the very first time
00:25:01.860 and we don't know
00:25:02.540 what that means.
00:25:03.560 Like you just said,
00:25:04.520 you get in the car
00:25:05.200 and you go pick up
00:25:05.920 your kids
00:25:06.360 or you go for dinner
00:25:07.080 and you're suddenly high.
00:25:08.760 You've never experienced it before.
00:25:10.440 Well, we will find out
00:25:11.520 and we'll be covering
00:25:12.500 those stories
00:25:13.840 because there'll be people
00:25:15.160 dropping all over the place
00:25:16.920 on, you know,
00:25:18.040 their bodies aren't used to it.
00:25:19.320 So, you know,
00:25:20.060 they're rolling it out
00:25:20.680 too quickly.
00:25:21.220 They've made a mistake.
00:25:21.880 They should have made
00:25:22.820 a partner of the Emory style,
00:25:24.840 let the kind of
00:25:25.500 the cannabis culture
00:25:27.720 kind of start
00:25:28.620 the first year
00:25:29.300 to decriminalize it
00:25:30.640 for low amounts
00:25:31.700 and then work their way
00:25:33.220 into being,
00:25:34.480 you know,
00:25:34.880 a player in it
00:25:35.600 in terms of the government.
00:25:36.780 Instead,
00:25:37.120 they've said,
00:25:37.540 everyone out,
00:25:38.840 we're in,
00:25:39.720 and by the way,
00:25:40.300 Bill Blair is going
00:25:40.900 to be the minister,
00:25:41.660 we're going to secure
00:25:42.460 the borders.
00:25:43.020 But Joe,
00:25:43.500 isn't that par for the course?
00:25:44.720 I mean,
00:25:45.040 in most provinces,
00:25:45.880 we have government
00:25:47.600 liquor monopolies.
00:25:48.800 We have government
00:25:49.880 casino monopolies.
00:25:51.220 We have government
00:25:52.080 lottery ticket monopolies.
00:25:53.860 Listen,
00:25:54.520 when it comes
00:25:55.340 to all those facets,
00:25:56.840 I'm all about
00:25:57.660 having the government
00:25:58.500 taxing it
00:26:00.380 and regulating it.
00:26:01.760 I don't want them
00:26:02.600 in the business of that.
00:26:03.420 And I agree with you
00:26:04.080 100%
00:26:04.580 that this is
00:26:06.840 a disaster
00:26:07.500 waiting to happen.
00:26:08.320 In Ontario,
00:26:08.920 I believe they're talking
00:26:09.620 about 38 government stores
00:26:11.220 for the entire province.
00:26:12.600 Yeah,
00:26:12.780 it's not enough.
00:26:13.280 The supply and demand issue
00:26:15.320 is going to be huge.
00:26:16.240 And that's what
00:26:16.820 the organized crime
00:26:19.140 and the gangs
00:26:19.660 and all that
00:26:20.100 are waiting for.
00:26:21.160 And don't forget
00:26:21.780 that marijuana
00:26:22.360 is traded
00:26:23.240 in other jurisdictions
00:26:25.120 for heroin
00:26:26.260 and all these kinds
00:26:27.460 of things.
00:26:27.820 And the reason
00:26:28.260 the city is so dangerous
00:26:29.840 right now
00:26:30.300 is because of
00:26:30.660 the opioid issue
00:26:32.040 and all these,
00:26:33.200 you know,
00:26:33.440 we see all the
00:26:34.460 different things,
00:26:35.140 the safe,
00:26:35.940 or I call them
00:26:36.520 dangerous injection sites
00:26:37.840 and all that stuff.
00:26:39.000 So marijuana
00:26:39.560 is a big player
00:26:40.800 in all of this.
00:26:41.920 It's not just sort of
00:26:42.900 on the side
00:26:43.460 and it's a benign thing.
00:26:45.040 It is the,
00:26:45.860 kind of the heartbeat
00:26:46.820 of all of it.
00:26:48.060 And so,
00:26:48.520 you know,
00:26:48.780 you don't have marijuana,
00:26:49.640 you don't need guns.
00:26:50.860 And you don't have
00:26:51.860 the heroin
00:26:53.080 and the,
00:26:53.880 you know,
00:26:54.140 the opioid
00:26:55.360 kind of issue
00:26:56.220 without marijuana.
00:26:57.520 So let's not kid ourselves.
00:26:59.140 Now,
00:26:59.360 I want to just say
00:27:00.300 that I think
00:27:00.860 that Bill Blair
00:27:01.380 is actually not
00:27:01.980 a bad choice for this.
00:27:03.360 I'm prepared
00:27:03.920 to give him a chance.
00:27:05.380 He is all of the above.
00:27:06.860 I mean,
00:27:06.980 there's a good side
00:27:07.760 to that guy.
00:27:08.720 He's a good cop.
00:27:09.800 And there's
00:27:10.100 that political side.
00:27:11.060 You know,
00:27:11.580 I could make the argument
00:27:12.580 that because he had his eye
00:27:14.100 on being a liberal
00:27:14.840 cabinet minister,
00:27:16.360 that that's how
00:27:16.880 we ended up
00:27:17.440 with no carding
00:27:18.200 because he didn't
00:27:19.220 back up
00:27:19.800 and tell Trudeau
00:27:21.040 and these guys
00:27:21.820 and Kathleen Wynne
00:27:23.420 when she was premier.
00:27:24.680 No,
00:27:25.060 no,
00:27:25.380 no.
00:27:25.920 We've got to be tough.
00:27:26.980 This is why
00:27:27.420 Doug Ford's
00:27:27.980 an important player
00:27:28.680 in this.
00:27:28.980 That's interesting too.
00:27:30.420 I just thought of it now.
00:27:31.780 You've got Bill Blair
00:27:32.480 and Doug Ford
00:27:33.160 going at it again
00:27:34.000 as well.
00:27:34.700 Remember last time
00:27:35.740 when Rob Ford
00:27:36.700 was mayor.
00:27:37.160 They did not get along.
00:27:38.280 No.
00:27:38.360 And so that's going
00:27:39.700 to be very interesting
00:27:40.560 and that may be
00:27:41.300 why Trudeau
00:27:41.840 has elevated
00:27:42.560 Bill Blair
00:27:43.020 up into the cabinet.
00:27:44.500 Well,
00:27:44.540 Joe,
00:27:44.700 when it comes
00:27:45.080 to public safety,
00:27:45.980 I would be most happy
00:27:47.600 to be proven wrong
00:27:48.700 about Bill Blair
00:27:49.600 because,
00:27:50.380 you know,
00:27:50.920 public safety
00:27:51.480 is preeminent.
00:27:52.380 But I tend to believe
00:27:53.500 what you've just
00:27:54.660 intimated that
00:27:55.840 this is really
00:27:56.860 about the federal
00:27:58.380 government
00:27:58.820 ensuring they get
00:28:00.820 their piece
00:28:01.840 of the action
00:28:02.380 in terms of tax revenue
00:28:03.540 from the marijuana
00:28:04.280 coming in
00:28:04.800 through legal channels.
00:28:05.480 It's going to be
00:28:05.760 a wild fight
00:28:06.840 and you want
00:28:08.860 to believe it.
00:28:09.840 You know,
00:28:10.100 nobody's saying it
00:28:10.980 but this is going
00:28:11.720 to change
00:28:12.200 the whole country.
00:28:13.560 And quick thoughts
00:28:14.180 on this little bugaboo
00:28:15.800 of this cabinet reshuffling.
00:28:17.380 Hmm,
00:28:17.940 18 males,
00:28:19.300 17 females.
00:28:20.320 I thought we had
00:28:21.020 to have that 50-50
00:28:22.400 gender equity
00:28:23.300 and I know
00:28:23.820 35 is an odd number
00:28:25.640 but still,
00:28:27.160 you know.
00:28:27.900 Well,
00:28:28.100 I just want to say
00:28:28.640 this about that.
00:28:30.080 Your perception
00:28:31.020 of it,
00:28:31.580 David,
00:28:32.040 may be different
00:28:33.080 than my perception
00:28:34.480 of it.
00:28:35.320 How you're reading
00:28:36.140 that could be
00:28:37.480 different than
00:28:38.460 the way I'm reading it.
00:28:39.320 And by the way,
00:28:39.920 I am a national reporter.
00:28:42.160 So what you're saying
00:28:42.700 is that maybe
00:28:43.140 some of these
00:28:43.940 male cabinet ministers
00:28:45.360 are currently
00:28:46.360 identifying as
00:28:47.380 female cabinet ministers.
00:28:48.660 Well,
00:28:48.740 however they feel
00:28:49.820 about it.
00:28:50.660 And this is important
00:28:51.460 because we've had
00:28:51.980 an awakening
00:28:52.540 and we as a society
00:28:54.100 have to address this
00:28:55.140 and somehow
00:28:55.520 it's all your fault.
00:28:56.840 How's that?
00:28:57.860 Well,
00:28:58.500 I got to watch
00:28:59.340 what I say.
00:29:00.040 We have to wrap it
00:29:00.680 here, folks,
00:29:01.220 because, you know,
00:29:01.840 there's a morning man
00:29:02.880 in Winnipeg
00:29:03.540 that just lost
00:29:04.900 his job
00:29:05.480 just making a joke
00:29:07.260 about trans issues.
00:29:08.520 I don't want to be
00:29:09.260 next in line.
00:29:10.280 So listen, Joe,
00:29:10.980 thank you so much
00:29:11.700 for dropping by
00:29:12.420 and folks,
00:29:13.140 keep it here.
00:29:13.880 More of the Ezra Levin
00:29:15.080 show to come
00:29:15.820 right after this.
00:29:28.380 Welcome back
00:29:29.220 to the Ezra Levin
00:29:29.960 show.
00:29:30.540 Thanks for staying
00:29:31.200 with us.
00:29:31.600 Now, on my monologue
00:29:32.940 yesterday about
00:29:33.960 Winnipeg radio host
00:29:35.220 Dave Wheeler
00:29:35.800 losing his job
00:29:37.080 for offending
00:29:38.000 the trans community,
00:29:40.140 Space Moose writes,
00:29:42.000 I think this is
00:29:42.800 the first time
00:29:43.440 the Ezra Levin
00:29:44.260 show led
00:29:44.980 with a Winnipeg
00:29:45.920 story.
00:29:46.820 It has been
00:29:47.240 a long time
00:29:48.220 since I tuned
00:29:49.040 into 92
00:29:50.100 CITI FM.
00:29:52.420 I have no plans
00:29:53.720 on tuning in
00:29:54.800 anytime soon.
00:29:56.640 Well, Space Moose,
00:29:57.640 this is the sad
00:29:58.900 reality of terrestrial
00:30:00.160 radio in Canada
00:30:01.200 today.
00:30:02.320 It has turned
00:30:02.800 into an echo
00:30:03.620 chamber in which
00:30:04.540 the same boring,
00:30:06.460 politically correct
00:30:07.580 talking points
00:30:08.740 are repeated
00:30:09.380 ad nausea.
00:30:10.780 And if you say
00:30:11.720 something even
00:30:12.660 remotely offensive,
00:30:14.720 then the social
00:30:15.580 media malcontents
00:30:16.860 demand that
00:30:17.580 the offender
00:30:18.440 must walk the plank
00:30:20.220 and forever be
00:30:21.620 shunned.
00:30:22.600 My advice for you,
00:30:23.900 subscribe to
00:30:24.560 satellite radio.
00:30:25.440 hosts there
00:30:26.240 can still
00:30:27.220 speak their
00:30:27.840 minds.
00:30:29.040 John writes,
00:30:29.960 I remember
00:30:30.520 there was a
00:30:31.100 time when
00:30:31.660 any actor
00:30:32.520 who played
00:30:33.140 a mentally
00:30:33.700 challenged
00:30:34.200 person got
00:30:34.980 the Oscar
00:30:35.640 that year.
00:30:36.840 I guess now
00:30:37.520 only mentally
00:30:38.320 challenged people
00:30:39.200 can play
00:30:40.120 those roles.
00:30:41.460 Well, you know,
00:30:41.940 great point,
00:30:42.640 John.
00:30:43.260 Is this where
00:30:43.860 we are in
00:30:44.440 terms of
00:30:44.800 identity politics
00:30:45.620 that I don't
00:30:46.520 know if they
00:30:46.820 were to make
00:30:47.160 a remake of
00:30:48.060 Rain Man,
00:30:48.880 there's no way
00:30:49.520 Dustin Hoffman
00:30:50.420 gets his old
00:30:51.100 role because
00:30:51.760 he's not
00:30:52.680 mentally challenged?
00:30:53.540 Likewise,
00:30:54.820 only a
00:30:55.520 disabled actor
00:30:56.680 can now
00:30:57.260 play the role
00:30:58.060 of a
00:30:58.440 handicapped
00:30:59.100 person?
00:31:00.160 And if this
00:31:00.840 brave new
00:31:01.660 rule means
00:31:02.500 that only
00:31:03.220 trans actors
00:31:04.320 play trans
00:31:05.280 characters,
00:31:06.380 does this
00:31:06.800 mean that
00:31:07.340 only 100%
00:31:08.680 real women
00:31:09.380 get to play
00:31:10.180 real female
00:31:11.020 characters and
00:31:12.060 that only 100%
00:31:13.280 real men
00:31:13.920 get to play
00:31:15.040 real male
00:31:16.160 characters?
00:31:17.260 Well,
00:31:17.860 too bad for
00:31:18.480 the trans actor
00:31:19.360 community because
00:31:20.180 I don't think
00:31:21.160 there are a
00:31:21.640 whole lot of
00:31:22.260 big budget
00:31:22.880 movies in
00:31:23.540 the works
00:31:23.960 featuring
00:31:24.840 trans characters.
00:31:26.420 Indeed,
00:31:27.300 I think the
00:31:28.080 trans community
00:31:28.720 may have
00:31:29.200 outsmarted
00:31:29.920 itself because
00:31:30.800 since Scarlett
00:31:31.780 Johansson
00:31:32.460 stepped down
00:31:33.480 from her
00:31:33.880 role in
00:31:34.360 Rub and
00:31:34.780 Tug,
00:31:35.520 now the
00:31:36.140 entire
00:31:36.580 project
00:31:37.480 might be
00:31:38.260 in jeopardy.
00:31:39.700 So how
00:31:40.500 is this
00:31:41.040 a win
00:31:41.920 for the
00:31:42.700 transgender
00:31:43.140 community or
00:31:44.200 anyone else
00:31:45.260 for that
00:31:45.640 matter?
00:31:46.900 And Bruce
00:31:47.480 writes,
00:31:48.620 what was
00:31:49.020 once understood
00:31:49.940 as an
00:31:50.500 obvious delusion
00:31:51.520 is now being
00:31:52.500 forced on us
00:31:53.400 as something
00:31:54.000 to be cheered
00:31:54.900 and championed?
00:31:56.320 In fact,
00:31:56.860 a time will
00:31:57.520 come when
00:31:58.080 trans deniers
00:31:58.900 will be put
00:31:59.620 in asylums
00:32:00.460 and considered
00:32:01.540 insane.
00:32:02.220 It happened
00:32:02.800 in the Soviet
00:32:03.300 Union and
00:32:04.040 I'm sure it
00:32:04.560 will happen
00:32:04.960 here if we
00:32:05.880 don't stand
00:32:06.460 against such
00:32:07.140 absolute nonsense.
00:32:08.280 Well,
00:32:08.660 Bruce,
00:32:08.960 I tend to
00:32:09.700 agree there
00:32:10.200 are some
00:32:10.700 profound mental
00:32:11.640 illness issues
00:32:12.520 in the so-called
00:32:13.440 trans community.
00:32:14.440 We used to
00:32:15.220 offer mentally
00:32:16.000 ill people
00:32:16.600 help.
00:32:17.080 Now we
00:32:17.440 pretend there's
00:32:18.120 nothing wrong
00:32:18.880 with a man
00:32:19.420 pretending to
00:32:20.020 be a woman
00:32:20.500 and a woman
00:32:21.460 pretending to
00:32:22.080 be a man
00:32:22.600 and we are
00:32:23.720 now at a
00:32:24.220 stage in
00:32:24.680 which there
00:32:25.140 are,
00:32:25.560 what,
00:32:26.040 16,
00:32:26.780 31,
00:32:27.620 84 genders
00:32:28.740 and counting.
00:32:30.100 This is utter
00:32:30.980 madness,
00:32:31.600 but as Dave
00:32:32.820 Wheeler found
00:32:33.500 out the other
00:32:34.020 day,
00:32:34.760 if you have
00:32:35.280 the utter
00:32:35.780 temerity to
00:32:36.680 insult the
00:32:37.300 trans community
00:32:38.060 while you
00:32:38.980 can just
00:32:39.520 kiss your
00:32:40.200 career goodbye,
00:32:41.760 makes you
00:32:42.300 wonder if the
00:32:43.040 inmates are
00:32:43.860 indeed running
00:32:44.880 the asylum
00:32:45.640 these days.
00:32:46.260 Well,
00:32:47.060 that's the
00:32:47.460 show today,
00:32:48.180 folks.
00:32:48.600 Thanks so
00:32:49.000 much for
00:32:49.340 watching and
00:32:50.000 hey,
00:32:50.800 keep fighting
00:32:51.260 for freedom.
00:32:52.240 Good night.