Rebel News Podcast - Trump hints at a NAFTA without Canada — but Trudeau remains in denial

00:00:00.000 Tonight, NAFTA without Canada?

00:00:03.200 While Trudeau remains optimistic,

00:00:05.480 America is getting close to a trade deal with Mexico.

00:00:08.780 It's July 19th, I'm David Menzies,

00:00:11.020 and this is the Ezra Levent Show.

00:00:18.560 Why should others go to jail

00:00:20.200 when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:22.420 There's 8,500 customers here,

00:00:24.620 and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:26.140 You come here once a year with a sign,

00:00:27.940 and you feel morally superior.

00:00:29.140 The only thing I have to say to the government

00:00:31.520 about why I publish it

00:00:33.120 is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:39.500 Is it game over for the North American Free Trade Agreement?

00:00:43.160 At least when it comes to NAFTA Classic?

00:00:46.680 Well, it kind of looks that way.

00:00:48.680 After all, just check out what President Donald Trump said yesterday,

00:00:52.780 namely that the U.S. might just hammer out

00:00:55.040 a separate trade deal with Mexico,

00:00:57.320 and that discussions with his Mexican counterpart

00:01:00.620 are going quite well.

00:01:03.640 With the new president of Mexico,

00:01:06.460 who won overwhelmingly,

00:01:09.200 and we're doing very well on our trade agreement,

00:01:12.940 so we'll see what happens.

00:01:14.820 We may do separately with Mexico,

00:01:16.640 and we'll negotiate with Canada at a later time.

00:01:20.320 But we're having very good discussions with Mexico.

00:01:25.620 Yeah, so just call this impending new deal NAFTA lite.

00:01:30.300 You know, a brand new, whiz-bang,

00:01:32.280 North American Free Trade Agreement,

00:01:34.900 minus that part of North America known as Canada.

00:01:39.380 Now, in fairness, Trump said a separate trade deal

00:01:42.440 might be reached with our great dominion at a later date.

00:01:45.720 Perhaps, maybe, hey, don't call us, we'll call you.

00:01:50.300 But certainly, there doesn't seem to be any urgency

00:01:53.020 for Trump to get a deal done with Ottawa.

00:01:55.640 And for some reason, I don't think Justin Trudeau

00:01:58.460 is on the president's speed dial list at the moment,

00:02:02.580 especially considering the most important part

00:02:05.940 of a trade negotiation for Trudeau

00:02:08.080 is trying to include a gender clause in the deal.

00:02:12.180 Now, on the flip side, check out Trump's recent comments

00:02:15.920 regarding a proposed new deal between the U.S. and Mexico.

00:02:20.020 A Financial Post story notes that the two nations

00:02:22.980 are indeed getting closer to reaching a trade deal.

00:02:27.120 Just listen to President Trump.

00:02:29.600 We have had very good sessions with Mexico

00:02:32.760 and with the new president of Mexico

00:02:37.260 who won overwhelmingly.

00:02:38.820 And we're doing very well on our trade agreement.

00:02:44.620 As for Canada, well, it would appear

00:02:47.000 that the great blight north barely registers

00:02:49.840 as a footnote of a footnote for the time being,

00:02:53.100 even though Trudeau says he's still optimistic

00:02:57.200 about a new NAFTA deal being reached.

00:03:00.800 What does Justin base such optimism on?

00:03:04.580 Wishful thinking?

00:03:05.460 Perhaps a recent visit to an Ottawa storefront psychic?

00:03:09.880 Or maybe Chrystia Freeland 1.00

00:03:11.380 has instilled confidence in our prime minister.

00:03:14.780 Remember when she started crying

00:03:16.540 when trade negotiations with Europe

00:03:18.640 weren't going well?

00:03:19.920 We have worked very hard with the European Commission

00:03:23.840 and with a lot of countries and members of the European Union.

00:03:28.100 The Canada has worked really hard.

00:03:30.660 And personally, I've worked very hard.

00:03:32.580 But it seems evident for me, for Canada,

00:03:42.500 that the European Union is not able to have an international agreement,

00:03:50.180 even with a country that has such European values like Canada.

00:03:59.100 And even with a country that is such a kind of country

00:04:04.140 and with a lot of patience like Canada.

00:04:07.900 Yikes.

00:04:10.460 Then again, maybe she can win over the president with emojis.

00:04:15.620 The European Trade Commissioner, Cecilia Malmstrom,

00:04:18.060 and I call each other sisters in trade.

00:04:21.660 We sign our emails, hugs.

00:04:24.280 Really?

00:04:24.540 You actually do that?

00:04:25.580 Yes, we do.

00:04:26.200 Wow.

00:04:26.580 We sometimes send each other smiley faces

00:04:28.440 in particularly difficult moments.

00:04:30.020 If that doesn't give you the same confidence

00:04:34.600 the Prime Minister Trudeau has,

00:04:36.600 then maybe Freeland's team of millennials

00:04:39.960 will assure you that Canada can outsmart

00:04:42.980 the master negotiator, Donald J. Trump.

00:04:46.880 Or maybe Justin has discovered a way

00:04:49.980 to alter the time-space continuum

00:04:52.240 so that it can whisk back into the not-so-distant past,

00:04:56.380 specifically June 9th. 0.97

00:04:57.600 That's when Justin, in a strikingly dumb 0.96

00:05:01.420 post-G7 news conference, 0.96

00:05:03.900 said the U.S. decision to impose tariffs

00:05:06.060 on Canadian steel and aluminum

00:05:07.920 on national security grounds was insulting.

00:05:12.460 I highlighted directly to the president

00:05:15.080 that Canadians did not take it lightly,

00:05:20.840 that the United States has moved forward

00:05:23.500 with significant tariffs on our steel and aluminum industry,

00:05:26.600 particularly did not take lightly the fact

00:05:30.100 that it's based on a national security reason,

00:05:33.580 that for Canadians who either themselves

00:05:37.400 or whose parents or community members

00:05:40.840 have stood shoulder to shoulder

00:05:42.360 with American soldiers and far-off lands

00:05:45.520 and conflicts from the First World War onwards,

00:05:51.000 that it's kind of insulting.

00:05:55.940 Well, the president didn't like that very much,

00:05:59.500 and he quickly tweeted his response

00:06:01.460 right from Air Force One, 0.95

00:06:03.640 stating that Trudeau was both dishonest and weak. 0.83

00:06:07.080 Ouch! 1.00

00:06:08.100 And White House Trade Advisor Peter Navarro,

00:06:11.300 well, he went even further.

00:06:12.700 Have a listen to what he had to say.

00:06:14.740 Chris, there's a special place in hell

00:06:17.360 for any foreign leader

00:06:18.600 that engages in bad-faith diplomacy

00:06:21.340 with President Donald J. Trump 0.97

00:06:23.140 and then tries to stab him in the back 0.86

00:06:25.880 on the way out the door. 0.67

00:06:27.720 And that's what bad-faith Justin Trudeau did

00:06:30.280 with that stunt press conference. 0.95

00:06:32.380 That's what weak, dishonest Justin Trudeau did. 0.79

00:06:36.720 How dare you, Mr. Navarro? 1.00

00:06:38.940 You see, that special place in hell 0.96

00:06:40.920 is already reserved for Trudeau

00:06:42.460 based on a multitude of other reasons,

00:06:45.460 like fast-tracking that multimillion-dollar

00:06:48.420 taxpayer payout plus public apology

00:06:51.200 to a convicted terrorist.

00:06:53.240 But I digress.

00:06:54.680 Even so, is it any wonder

00:06:56.500 that consumer confidence in Canada

00:06:58.620 continues to plunge?

00:07:00.400 After all, a debilitating trade war

00:07:02.660 with our biggest trading partner

00:07:04.580 would prove devastating.

00:07:07.100 For example, Trump has already floated

00:07:09.680 the idea of imposing a 25% tariff

00:07:12.900 on all new vehicles going into Canada

00:07:15.460 from the U.S.

00:07:16.520 That would add thousands of dollars

00:07:18.820 to the price of an average new car.

00:07:21.500 Translation, if you're thinking about

00:07:23.560 snagging a new set of wheels, folks,

00:07:26.020 I really think you should visit

00:07:27.700 your friendly neighborhood auto mall ASAP.

00:07:31.140 But the fallout from an impending trade war

00:07:34.080 between Canada and the U.S.

00:07:35.540 won't just mean higher consumer prices.

00:07:38.540 It might just grease the wheels 0.86

00:07:40.560 for an all-out recession,

00:07:43.180 at least according to a report by Scotiabank.

00:07:45.840 And the real tragedy

00:07:47.240 is it didn't really have to be this way.

00:07:50.140 If only our virtue-signaling prime minister

00:07:53.000 could have kept his big mouth shut,

00:07:55.800 or if he had negotiated in good faith.

00:07:59.340 President Trump said that Trudeau

00:08:01.360 made a big mistake,

00:08:03.000 and it's going to cost us a lot of money.

00:08:06.640 I actually like Justin.

00:08:08.340 You know, I think he's good.

00:08:09.760 I like him.

00:08:10.760 But he shouldn't have done that.

00:08:11.740 That was a mistake.

00:08:12.580 That's going to cost him a lot of money.

00:08:14.900 In the meantime,

00:08:16.020 as Mexico and the U.S.

00:08:17.400 remain engaged in cordial talks

00:08:19.380 en route to a free trade deal,

00:08:22.080 it would appear Canada is on the outside

00:08:24.520 looking in as we lurch down the road

00:08:27.120 of engaging the U.S. in a trade war

00:08:29.680 that nobody wants.

00:08:31.920 Oh, sunny ways, sunny ways indeed.

00:08:35.760 Stay with us for more, folks.

00:08:53.520 Well, this just in,

00:08:54.920 President Trump and his Mexican counterpart

00:08:57.420 Enrique Peña Nieto

00:08:59.160 are apparently getting along very well indeed.

00:09:02.660 So well, in fact,

00:09:03.660 that the U.S. and Mexico

00:09:05.180 might just hammer out

00:09:06.920 a new bilateral trade deal

00:09:09.260 between the new nations.

00:09:11.100 The thing is,

00:09:11.980 Canada had a chance

00:09:13.040 to also negotiate bilaterally with the U.S.,

00:09:15.960 but chose not to pursue this route

00:09:18.420 mainly due to, well,

00:09:20.700 due rigueur virtue signaling

00:09:22.540 so beloved by the Trudeau liberals,

00:09:24.660 which is to say that

00:09:25.920 even a trade agreement

00:09:27.280 can't simply be about trade.

00:09:30.360 No, it must include provisions

00:09:31.840 about gender and climate change

00:09:34.500 and indigenous rights.

00:09:36.300 So no deal for us.

00:09:38.560 With more on the latest follies

00:09:40.420 on the trade deal front

00:09:41.940 is Sheila Gunn-Reed,

00:09:43.100 host of The Gun Show.

00:09:44.400 Welcome to the Ezra Levent Show, Sheila.

00:09:46.940 Hey, David.

00:09:47.740 Thanks for having me.

00:09:48.660 Always a pleasure, my friend.

00:09:49.800 So, Sheila,

00:09:50.620 far from securing a trade deal

00:09:52.440 with the U.S.,

00:09:53.280 we might just be headed

00:09:55.120 for a trade war.

00:09:57.280 How in the world

00:09:58.040 did we get into this predicament

00:09:59.420 in the first place?

00:10:01.680 Well, as the kids say,

00:10:03.260 this could be us,

00:10:04.360 but we were playing.

00:10:06.280 You know,

00:10:07.000 and my kids are cringing

00:10:09.520 to hear me talk like that.

00:10:12.200 But, you know,

00:10:14.580 like all we had to do

00:10:15.360 was shut our mouths. 0.83

00:10:16.220 We literally could have been

00:10:17.540 the people renegotiating

00:10:19.160 a bilateral trade deal

00:10:20.660 with the states.

00:10:22.280 I mean,

00:10:22.820 Manny had such a great point

00:10:25.800 when he said that

00:10:26.780 we were not on Donald Trump's radar

00:10:29.060 going into NAFTA renegotiations.

00:10:32.740 We put ourselves on the radar

00:10:34.260 because Justin Trudeau 0.99

00:10:35.580 couldn't shut his big fat mouth. 0.98

00:10:37.900 And then we had, you know, 0.96

00:10:38.980 our diplomats

00:10:40.720 and our trade minister

00:10:42.440 adding all sorts of ridiculous stuff,

00:10:44.860 like you raised 0.95

00:10:46.300 the indigenous issues

00:10:47.740 into NAFTA,

00:10:49.100 gender issues into NAFTA,

00:10:51.740 environmental issues into NAFTA.

00:10:54.260 And quite frankly,

00:10:55.080 these are issues

00:10:55.800 that Canada really doesn't

00:10:57.800 have the ability to argue

00:10:59.840 from a position of power on

00:11:01.680 or any credibility at all.

00:11:03.820 You know,

00:11:04.320 there's a certain amount of chutzpah,

00:11:06.160 especially about the climate change

00:11:08.080 provisions there, Sheila,

00:11:09.380 because, you know,

00:11:10.420 I think this came to the front

00:11:13.080 this week about

00:11:14.400 it was a climate change report card

00:11:16.640 that came out

00:11:17.360 showing the top 10 nations

00:11:19.600 in terms of experiencing decreases

00:11:22.120 in CO2 emissions

00:11:23.220 and the top 10 nations

00:11:25.260 in terms of increases.

00:11:26.480 Lo and behold,

00:11:27.460 number one in terms of decreases

00:11:29.180 is the U.S.

00:11:30.660 And one of the nations

00:11:32.020 on the bottom 10 list

00:11:34.820 in terms of most increase

00:11:36.280 is Canada.

00:11:37.440 So it's a little presumptuous

00:11:39.320 for us to be lecturing the U.S.

00:11:41.900 on climate change,

00:11:43.280 wouldn't you think?

00:11:45.140 Well, yeah,

00:11:46.040 especially since the last three years

00:11:48.500 in that report

00:11:49.300 showed that Canada

00:11:50.020 has increased every single year.

00:11:51.540 So that would be the last three years

00:11:53.320 that the liberals have been in power.

00:11:55.420 And then, you know,

00:11:56.020 when they try to inject

00:11:56.960 Indigenous issues into NAFTA,

00:11:59.720 I mean, let's be real.

00:12:01.180 Justin Trudeau campaigned

00:12:02.420 on getting clean drinking water

00:12:04.760 to our First Nations reserves,

00:12:06.680 and he hasn't moved the needle

00:12:08.100 on that issue at all.

00:12:09.420 And yet he has the audacity

00:12:10.820 to issue the Americans on that.

00:12:13.100 And gender, like, come on. 1.00

00:12:16.380 Justin Trudeau,

00:12:17.360 Prime Minister Happy Hands

00:12:19.120 and his harem of female enablers 0.96

00:12:21.860 are going to lecture the Americans 0.99

00:12:23.760 about what's best for ladies? 0.99

00:12:26.080 No.

00:12:26.720 No.

00:12:27.140 It's not happening.

00:12:28.080 And Sheila, on that point,

00:12:30.160 I'm sorry to be so Neanderthal here, 0.99

00:12:33.280 but what in the world

00:12:35.020 does gender have to do

00:12:36.800 with a free trade deal?

00:12:40.220 Well, it shouldn't.

00:12:41.140 I mean, you would think that

00:12:42.340 jobs and lower taxes

00:12:45.420 and free trade,

00:12:46.680 well, those are women's issues for me. 1.00

00:12:49.800 Like, unemployment rates,

00:12:51.620 those are women's issues for me. 1.00

00:12:53.620 And I mean,

00:12:54.120 if there are more jobs

00:12:55.660 circling around the economy,

00:12:57.360 then naturally,

00:12:58.660 there's more female workplace 1.00

00:13:00.680 participation rates.

00:13:01.860 But they want this gender-based analysis

00:13:04.460 thingamajigger 1.00

00:13:05.280 overlaid on every single trade deal

00:13:07.540 and every single project.

00:13:08.840 And I don't even understand

00:13:09.900 what that thing is.

00:13:11.420 You know, and here's the,

00:13:13.380 you know, the dire part of this.

00:13:15.560 I think, Sheila,

00:13:16.300 far from a trade agreement,

00:13:18.620 we might be headed towards a trade war.

00:13:20.720 And we're talking, I mean,

00:13:21.780 President Trump at one point

00:13:23.120 said that a 25% tariff

00:13:25.560 on vehicles coming from the U.S.

00:13:27.920 into Canada,

00:13:28.820 that adds thousands

00:13:31.080 and thousands of dollars

00:13:32.200 to the price

00:13:32.780 of an average new car

00:13:34.040 in Canada.

00:13:34.840 I would say

00:13:35.780 if anyone's in the market

00:13:37.200 to buy a new car,

00:13:38.540 get to the dealership

00:13:39.700 this weekend

00:13:40.300 and start negotiating

00:13:41.860 because you might be ahead

00:13:43.180 of the game

00:13:43.880 the way things are panning out

00:13:45.060 right now.

00:13:46.440 Well, and if you work

00:13:47.820 in the auto industry,

00:13:48.660 maybe now's the time

00:13:50.020 to start shopping around

00:13:51.500 for a new job

00:13:52.400 because those trade tariffs

00:13:54.300 are going to devastate.

00:13:55.780 The Ontario economy

00:13:57.120 just as it's poised

00:13:58.120 to recover from a decade

00:14:00.040 or so of liberal mismanagement.

00:14:02.520 And out here in Alberta,

00:14:03.540 I mean,

00:14:04.620 we're never going to see

00:14:06.060 a pipeline built

00:14:07.180 under either Notley

00:14:08.340 or Justin Trudeau.

00:14:09.380 The only pipeline

00:14:10.300 that I see

00:14:11.320 in the predictable future

00:14:12.660 being built

00:14:13.360 is Keystone XL.

00:14:15.400 And the only way

00:14:16.900 that's ever going to be built

00:14:18.280 is if President Trump

00:14:19.760 looks favorably upon Canada

00:14:21.960 and Justin Trudeau

00:14:22.800 seems to be doing

00:14:23.380 everything he can

00:14:24.220 to annoy the Americans

00:14:25.500 right now.

00:14:26.760 And speaking of which,

00:14:27.920 Sheila,

00:14:28.140 if you were an advisor

00:14:29.460 to Justin Trudeau,

00:14:31.260 let's pretend

00:14:31.920 you're the female equivalent 1.00

00:14:34.020 of Gerald Butts,

00:14:35.540 what would you be telling

00:14:37.200 the Prime Minister

00:14:38.260 to do right now

00:14:39.460 to right this ship

00:14:40.920 and to, you know,

00:14:42.420 bury the hatchet

00:14:43.200 and get a deal done

00:14:44.640 much like it seems

00:14:46.440 that is going to be

00:14:47.320 the case with the U.S.

00:14:48.640 and Mexico?

00:14:50.860 Well, if I were

00:14:51.860 the female equivalent 0.98

00:14:52.780 of Gerald Butts,

00:14:53.660 I'd be telling

00:14:54.100 Justin Trudeau

00:14:54.680 to fire myself.

00:14:56.360 But I thought

00:14:57.720 you were going to say

00:14:58.340 I'd be telling

00:14:59.500 Justin Trudeau

00:15:00.080 to stop groping me.

00:15:01.240 But no,

00:15:01.740 anyways, go ahead.

00:15:04.700 You know,

00:15:05.280 it's time for

00:15:06.200 Justin Trudeau

00:15:07.000 to swallow his pride

00:15:08.600 and call in

00:15:09.580 the big guns.

00:15:10.940 Enough with

00:15:11.660 Krista Freeland

00:15:12.280 and her crying

00:15:12.940 at the trade deals.

00:15:13.940 It's time to call in

00:15:14.940 the likes of

00:15:15.620 Brian Mulroney

00:15:16.540 or Paul Martin,

00:15:18.760 people from both sides

00:15:20.520 of the political spectrum,

00:15:21.800 although pretty close

00:15:22.660 to each other

00:15:23.160 on the political spectrum,

00:15:24.820 and people who are

00:15:26.200 friendly with Donald Trump,

00:15:27.440 who understand business,

00:15:28.660 who understand trade deals.

00:15:30.460 It's time to set aside ego

00:15:32.820 and save some jobs

00:15:34.360 and save the Canadian economy.

00:15:36.700 Yeah, indeed,

00:15:37.520 because, I mean,

00:15:38.540 this all stems back,

00:15:39.740 doesn't it, Sheila,

00:15:40.540 to it was that

00:15:41.440 disastrous press conference

00:15:42.860 after the G7th

00:15:45.300 back on June 9th,

00:15:46.520 I believe it was,

00:15:47.260 and Justin was talking

00:15:50.180 about tariffs

00:15:50.980 on Canadian steel

00:15:52.060 and aluminum

00:15:52.880 on national security grounds

00:15:54.840 as being insulting,

00:15:56.440 and the president

00:15:57.440 immediately tweeted

00:15:58.560 from Air Force One

00:15:59.880 that he wasn't happy

00:16:00.860 with that.

00:16:01.880 It seems that,

00:16:03.220 you know,

00:16:03.500 maybe what Trudeau

00:16:04.760 has to do

00:16:05.560 is read that book

00:16:08.240 by that very same president,

00:16:09.980 The Art of the Deal,

00:16:10.900 because he doesn't seem

00:16:12.500 to understand

00:16:13.560 the nuances

00:16:14.960 and the strategies

00:16:16.520 involved in negotiating

00:16:19.000 a deal to begin with.

00:16:21.880 Do you think

00:16:22.760 Justin Trudeau

00:16:23.420 has negotiated anything

00:16:24.920 in his entire life?

00:16:26.480 Like, really?

00:16:28.060 I mean,

00:16:28.880 the guy was born wealthy,

00:16:30.400 silver spoon in his mouth.

00:16:31.380 I don't begrudge him

00:16:32.260 his wealth,

00:16:32.980 but I bet you

00:16:34.400 he's not as penny-pinching

00:16:35.720 and frugal as I am,

00:16:37.100 if you know what I mean.

00:16:37.960 I drive a hard bargain

00:16:38.860 at a garage sale.

00:16:39.780 I think that

00:16:40.540 Justin Trudeau

00:16:41.100 has no clue

00:16:42.360 what it's like

00:16:43.840 to deal with

00:16:44.720 the movers

00:16:45.320 and shakers 0.86

00:16:46.040 of the business world,

00:16:47.340 and it's really

00:16:48.100 showing right now.

00:16:49.120 You know,

00:16:49.680 I think you've touched

00:16:50.460 upon something

00:16:51.080 very profound here,

00:16:52.300 Sheila,

00:16:52.720 and you're right.

00:16:53.720 I mean,

00:16:54.400 Donald Trump

00:16:55.560 made a success

00:16:56.720 of himself

00:16:58.040 in one of the

00:16:58.840 most rough-and-tumble

00:17:00.540 real estate markets

00:17:01.480 in the world

00:17:02.060 in New York City.

00:17:03.720 Justin Trudeau,

00:17:04.660 a trust fund baby,

00:17:06.360 has had everything

00:17:07.800 given to him

00:17:08.720 on the proverbial

00:17:09.780 silver platter,

00:17:11.040 so maybe

00:17:12.000 he's not in tune

00:17:13.740 with the reality

00:17:14.640 of what's required

00:17:16.500 to have a negotiation

00:17:17.920 for a trade deal,

00:17:19.120 and that's why

00:17:19.580 he brings in

00:17:20.300 all this baggage

00:17:21.940 about gender

00:17:23.200 and indigenous rights

00:17:24.680 and climate change,

00:17:25.800 which should have

00:17:26.820 nothing to do

00:17:27.600 with a trade deal.

00:17:29.740 Well, no,

00:17:30.460 and he thinks

00:17:31.000 real people

00:17:31.540 actually care about that.

00:17:32.860 Real people

00:17:33.320 don't care about

00:17:34.200 those sorts of issues

00:17:35.100 being injected

00:17:35.760 into business deals.

00:17:36.840 We want to get

00:17:37.460 the deal done.

00:17:38.380 I mean,

00:17:38.640 look at how poorly

00:17:39.780 the Liberals

00:17:40.420 negotiated

00:17:41.860 the purchase

00:17:42.940 of the Kinder Morgan

00:17:43.900 Trans Mountain

00:17:44.580 Pipeline.

00:17:45.120 They overpaid

00:17:46.160 for it,

00:17:46.700 and I was reading

00:17:47.260 the news today,

00:17:48.120 in two months

00:17:49.400 no constructions

00:17:50.400 even started on that,

00:17:51.600 and yet they told us

00:17:52.700 if they bought

00:17:53.640 this pipeline,

00:17:54.360 construction would start

00:17:55.440 and all the opposition

00:17:56.900 would magically disappear.

00:17:58.660 They just don't

00:17:59.240 understand what it's like

00:18:01.020 in the real world.

00:18:03.160 Well, Sheila,

00:18:03.900 time will tell

00:18:04.540 how this plays out.

00:18:05.380 We'll have to end it here,

00:18:06.220 but I'm telling you,

00:18:07.060 it is really tragic

00:18:09.620 that we could have had

00:18:11.500 a bilateral trade deal

00:18:12.960 and instead we might

00:18:14.040 get into a trade war,

00:18:15.340 and this trade war,

00:18:17.080 I think,

00:18:18.160 might grease the wheels

00:18:19.580 for a recession

00:18:20.360 for this country

00:18:21.320 if things really

00:18:22.980 get heated up.

00:18:23.900 So, hopefully,

00:18:25.740 somebody in the Trudeau

00:18:27.280 cabinet will come

00:18:28.460 to their senses

00:18:29.080 and try to make amends

00:18:30.460 and get a deal done.

00:18:32.440 You know,

00:18:34.340 I hope you're wrong,

00:18:35.900 but I think you're right.

00:18:37.360 Okay, then.

00:18:39.500 There you go.

00:18:40.520 Sheila, thank you so much

00:18:41.480 for joining us,

00:18:42.060 and that was Sheila Gunn-Reed,

00:18:43.560 folks,

00:18:44.040 and keep it here.

00:18:45.100 More of the Ezra Levin

00:18:45.980 show to come

00:18:46.640 right after this.

00:18:59.160 Well, as we head into

00:19:00.540 next year's federal election,

00:19:02.080 yesterday,

00:19:03.180 Justin Trudeau

00:19:04.060 shuffled his cabinet.

00:19:05.240 Now, most of the

00:19:06.040 senior cabinet ministers,

00:19:07.780 they're still there,

00:19:09.160 but there were a couple

00:19:10.140 of notable things

00:19:11.360 about this cabinet shuffle.

00:19:13.700 First of all,

00:19:15.180 guess what, folks?

00:19:15.920 It's not a gender equity

00:19:17.420 cabinet anymore.

00:19:18.380 It's 18 males

00:19:20.500 and 17 females,

00:19:22.980 and also Bill Blair

00:19:26.020 has been appointed

00:19:27.480 to the newly created role

00:19:29.540 of Minister of Border Security

00:19:31.640 and Organized Crime Reduction.

00:19:35.280 Whatever does that all mean?

00:19:37.720 Well,

00:19:37.980 someone who definitely

00:19:39.220 has some thoughts

00:19:39.940 on this matter

00:19:40.580 is Toronto Sun columnist

00:19:42.640 extraordinaire,

00:19:43.780 Joe Worthington.

00:19:44.620 Thanks for joining me here,

00:19:45.700 Joe.

00:19:46.000 It's good to be back

00:19:46.800 two days in a row.

00:19:47.980 Well,

00:19:48.720 it was so nice

00:19:49.760 we did it twice, right?

00:19:51.100 Now, Joe,

00:19:51.700 first of all,

00:19:53.540 Bill Blair,

00:19:54.480 I'll play my cards here.

00:19:56.140 I wasn't a fan

00:19:57.200 of Bill Blair

00:19:57.880 when he was the chief

00:19:58.940 of police going back

00:20:00.060 several years ago.

00:20:01.760 What sort of cemented

00:20:03.640 my opinion

00:20:04.520 about Chief Blair

00:20:05.720 was it was a press conference

00:20:07.320 and I believe

00:20:07.920 it was in regard

00:20:08.620 to an officer

00:20:09.500 that had been killed

00:20:10.260 on duty.

00:20:11.760 And Bill Blair,

00:20:13.240 and I'm paraphrasing here,

00:20:14.300 these aren't direct quotes,

00:20:15.160 but he was saying

00:20:15.860 something along the lines

00:20:17.020 of, you know,

00:20:17.960 we, the police,

00:20:19.420 we can't just be concerned

00:20:20.860 with justice.

00:20:22.040 We also have to take

00:20:23.620 social justice

00:20:25.080 into consideration.

00:20:26.880 And Joe,

00:20:27.180 I'm thinking social justice.

00:20:28.940 This is the kind

00:20:29.680 of claptrap we hear

00:20:30.840 on the, you know,

00:20:31.720 the campus of Ryerson

00:20:32.900 and U of T.

00:20:33.760 It's ironic that

00:20:34.580 in 2010 during G20,

00:20:37.320 you know,

00:20:37.600 he was obviously

00:20:38.560 not doing much

00:20:39.440 social justice that day.

00:20:40.980 Good point.

00:20:41.380 And you covered that.

00:20:42.320 Yeah.

00:20:42.500 And so it is

00:20:43.700 an interesting thing.

00:20:44.400 He's a politician.

00:20:45.480 And he's got

00:20:46.460 what he should have

00:20:47.420 had all along,

00:20:48.140 which is a cabinet position.

00:20:49.480 And because it's 2018,

00:20:51.200 you know,

00:20:51.700 the balance isn't there.

00:20:53.240 But I think this is actually

00:20:55.360 an interesting decision

00:20:56.740 by the prime minister

00:20:57.680 because it shows you,

00:21:00.040 you know,

00:21:00.400 on one front

00:21:01.220 how,

00:21:02.720 even though they kind

00:21:03.380 of gloss it over

00:21:04.180 and call everybody

00:21:04.900 un-Canadian,

00:21:06.100 that they are responding

00:21:07.060 to the concerns

00:21:07.980 at the border.

00:21:08.680 But that's really not what,

00:21:10.380 you know,

00:21:10.760 the kind of fine print

00:21:11.880 would, you know,

00:21:12.700 which we'll talk about now.

00:21:13.700 Oh, and Joe,

00:21:14.160 before we get into that

00:21:14.920 fine print,

00:21:15.400 you raise a good point,

00:21:16.400 though.

00:21:17.360 Just, you know,

00:21:18.640 days, hours

00:21:20.000 before this announcement,

00:21:21.740 you had Prime Minister Trudeau

00:21:23.840 and Gerald Butts

00:21:24.920 and Minister Hussein

00:21:26.260 saying there is

00:21:27.320 no border crisis,

00:21:28.300 there is no migrant crisis.

00:21:30.720 And then suddenly,

00:21:31.660 hours later,

00:21:32.700 we have a minister

00:21:33.600 of border security.

00:21:34.940 So kind of a mixed message,

00:21:36.780 wouldn't you say?

00:21:37.280 It is a mixed message,

00:21:38.800 but, you know,

00:21:39.340 this is all about

00:21:40.400 the upcoming war

00:21:42.300 with organized crime

00:21:43.560 for the marijuana market

00:21:45.000 in Ontario

00:21:45.780 and in Canada.

00:21:47.380 And that's what

00:21:48.600 this is about.

00:21:49.240 So the government

00:21:50.320 is now beefed up

00:21:51.440 and they have

00:21:52.500 a former cop

00:21:53.580 and a 10-year

00:21:54.400 chief of police

00:21:55.280 in Bill Blair

00:21:55.940 that's going to oversee this.

00:21:57.980 And he'll,

00:21:58.360 it'll be interesting

00:21:59.000 to see, you know,

00:22:00.260 how he marshals,

00:22:01.660 you know,

00:22:02.060 his,

00:22:02.660 can he marshal

00:22:03.420 the RCMP

00:22:04.120 or the OPP?

00:22:04.980 Does he work

00:22:05.340 with the provinces?

00:22:06.700 Because make no mistake,

00:22:08.520 there is going to be

00:22:09.700 a marijuana war

00:22:10.920 over who controls

00:22:12.480 the market.

00:22:13.060 Is it going to be

00:22:13.920 the Canadian people

00:22:15.500 and the private industry

00:22:17.260 that's run a lot

00:22:17.960 by chiefs of police?

00:22:19.180 Or is it going to be

00:22:20.140 organized crime

00:22:20.820 that don't follow

00:22:21.440 the environmental rules

00:22:22.520 or any of the rules

00:22:23.320 and they can undercut

00:22:24.480 the price?

00:22:25.600 And we've seen already

00:22:26.420 what, you know,

00:22:27.440 it's happened right here

00:22:28.340 with the Amory's

00:22:29.120 and all these different stores

00:22:30.200 and it's happened

00:22:31.340 in every city,

00:22:32.040 but, you know,

00:22:32.760 I work in Toronto

00:22:33.500 so I notice it,

00:22:35.080 where they shut down

00:22:36.000 all the mom and pop,

00:22:37.080 you know,

00:22:37.780 distiller,

00:22:38.360 or dispensaries.

00:22:39.760 Yes.

00:22:40.380 And that was using

00:22:41.300 the police as the muscle,

00:22:43.300 you know,

00:22:43.720 to go against

00:22:44.380 these companies

00:22:45.060 that are on,

00:22:46.140 you know,

00:22:46.340 the public markets

00:22:47.260 trying to raise

00:22:48.160 millions and billions

00:22:49.380 of dollars

00:22:49.820 on marijuana sales.

00:22:51.280 So, you know,

00:22:51.980 I find what you're saying

00:22:53.060 absolutely fascinating, Joe,

00:22:54.360 because I never thought

00:22:55.000 of it until just now

00:22:56.360 with your response.

00:22:57.560 So, what you're saying

00:22:58.920 is that Bill Blair's role

00:23:00.920 is going to be

00:23:01.660 less about

00:23:02.480 border security,

00:23:03.480 it's going to be

00:23:04.180 more about part two,

00:23:05.740 organized crime reduction,

00:23:07.340 meaning preventing

00:23:08.640 illegal marijuana

00:23:10.300 from getting into the country

00:23:11.240 because it's all really

00:23:13.360 about money.

00:23:14.680 The government

00:23:15.180 wants its

00:23:16.680 piece of the action

00:23:18.140 through the legalized channels

00:23:19.880 when we finally get

00:23:21.480 this system going.

00:23:22.580 Because for the last,

00:23:23.680 you know,

00:23:24.080 I don't know

00:23:24.500 whatever the years are,

00:23:25.580 but the last 50 years,

00:23:26.740 the marijuana sales

00:23:27.640 have not been

00:23:28.300 through the government

00:23:29.120 or through legalized,

00:23:31.000 you know,

00:23:31.300 private sector.

00:23:32.840 So, that's changing.

00:23:34.400 So, now there's a new

00:23:35.660 player in the town

00:23:36.560 that's saying move over

00:23:37.500 everybody else.

00:23:39.000 We're it.

00:23:39.560 We're legal.

00:23:40.080 Well, you're going to have

00:23:40.540 to police the other guys

00:23:41.780 because they're not going away.

00:23:43.520 And so, that's what

00:23:44.280 this move is about.

00:23:45.220 And also,

00:23:45.640 the guns that come

00:23:46.300 across the border

00:23:46.980 to help enforce the war

00:23:48.280 which is coming.

00:23:49.520 This is not a time

00:23:50.480 to be cutting back

00:23:51.640 on police.

00:23:52.500 This is a time

00:23:53.240 to be, you know,

00:23:54.000 getting ready for the war

00:23:55.160 that's going to happen.

00:23:56.540 You thought the war

00:23:57.320 on drugs

00:23:57.840 was a problem before,

00:23:58.940 but now that you are 0.99

00:24:00.000 the biggest drug dealer 0.95

00:24:01.080 in terms of the government,

00:24:02.920 you're going to have

00:24:03.500 to fight the people 0.94

00:24:04.260 that want, you know,

00:24:05.040 to sustain their own market.

00:24:06.940 Well, you know, Joe,

00:24:07.680 I'm not an expert

00:24:08.640 on marijuana

00:24:09.600 to say the least,

00:24:10.960 but the more I read

00:24:12.560 about this particular file,

00:24:14.520 the more I think

00:24:15.860 this is going to be

00:24:17.560 an absolute epic disaster

00:24:20.440 in the way

00:24:21.080 it's being rolled out

00:24:21.840 just from

00:24:22.700 the negligible effect

00:24:24.760 it's going to have

00:24:25.300 on the grey and black market

00:24:26.600 and also what I'm

00:24:27.680 really concerned about

00:24:28.660 is the kind of

00:24:29.860 potential carnage

00:24:30.980 we're going to see

00:24:31.560 on the road

00:24:32.100 with people

00:24:32.900 that are driving high.

00:24:35.360 It's all based on a lie

00:24:36.980 and the lie is

00:24:37.880 that marijuana is okay.

00:24:39.300 It's just okay.

00:24:40.480 And so we're going to

00:24:41.640 find out what it does.

00:24:42.920 Now, it's not something

00:24:43.860 that you or I

00:24:44.780 would partake in

00:24:45.680 or haven't,

00:24:46.780 but you know,

00:24:47.220 come October

00:24:48.020 when they make it legal

00:24:49.140 and you've got a sore knee

00:24:50.580 and you think,

00:24:51.140 I don't want to go

00:24:51.460 to the doctor,

00:24:52.540 I can go down

00:24:53.160 and buy it

00:24:53.660 at a government store.

00:24:54.460 It's perfectly legal.

00:24:56.060 Well, maybe some,

00:24:56.960 you know,

00:24:57.200 some 50 something

00:24:58.440 people are going

00:25:00.040 to go down

00:25:00.420 and do that

00:25:00.780 for the very first time

00:25:01.860 and we don't know

00:25:02.540 what that means.

00:25:03.560 Like you just said,

00:25:04.520 you get in the car

00:25:05.200 and you go pick up

00:25:05.920 your kids

00:25:06.360 or you go for dinner

00:25:07.080 and you're suddenly high.

00:25:08.760 You've never experienced it before.

00:25:10.440 Well, we will find out

00:25:11.520 and we'll be covering

00:25:12.500 those stories

00:25:13.840 because there'll be people

00:25:15.160 dropping all over the place

00:25:16.920 on, you know,

00:25:18.040 their bodies aren't used to it.

00:25:19.320 So, you know,

00:25:20.060 they're rolling it out

00:25:20.680 too quickly.

00:25:21.220 They've made a mistake.

00:25:21.880 They should have made

00:25:22.820 a partner of the Emory style,

00:25:24.840 let the kind of

00:25:25.500 the cannabis culture

00:25:27.720 kind of start

00:25:28.620 the first year

00:25:29.300 to decriminalize it

00:25:30.640 for low amounts

00:25:31.700 and then work their way

00:25:33.220 into being,

00:25:34.480 you know,

00:25:34.880 a player in it

00:25:35.600 in terms of the government.

00:25:36.780 Instead,

00:25:37.120 they've said,

00:25:37.540 everyone out,

00:25:38.840 we're in,

00:25:39.720 and by the way,

00:25:40.300 Bill Blair is going

00:25:40.900 to be the minister,

00:25:41.660 we're going to secure

00:25:42.460 the borders.

00:25:43.020 But Joe,

00:25:43.500 isn't that par for the course?

00:25:44.720 I mean,

00:25:45.040 in most provinces,

00:25:45.880 we have government

00:25:47.600 liquor monopolies.

00:25:48.800 We have government

00:25:49.880 casino monopolies.

00:25:51.220 We have government

00:25:52.080 lottery ticket monopolies.

00:25:53.860 Listen,

00:25:54.520 when it comes

00:25:55.340 to all those facets,

00:25:56.840 I'm all about

00:25:57.660 having the government

00:25:58.500 taxing it

00:26:00.380 and regulating it.

00:26:01.760 I don't want them

00:26:02.600 in the business of that.

00:26:03.420 And I agree with you

00:26:04.080 100%

00:26:04.580 that this is

00:26:06.840 a disaster

00:26:07.500 waiting to happen.

00:26:08.320 In Ontario,

00:26:08.920 I believe they're talking

00:26:09.620 about 38 government stores

00:26:11.220 for the entire province.

00:26:12.600 Yeah,

00:26:12.780 it's not enough.

00:26:13.280 The supply and demand issue

00:26:15.320 is going to be huge.

00:26:16.240 And that's what

00:26:16.820 the organized crime

00:26:19.140 and the gangs

00:26:19.660 and all that

00:26:20.100 are waiting for.

00:26:21.160 And don't forget

00:26:21.780 that marijuana

00:26:22.360 is traded

00:26:23.240 in other jurisdictions

00:26:25.120 for heroin

00:26:26.260 and all these kinds

00:26:27.460 of things.

00:26:27.820 And the reason

00:26:28.260 the city is so dangerous

00:26:29.840 right now

00:26:30.300 is because of

00:26:30.660 the opioid issue

00:26:32.040 and all these,

00:26:33.200 you know,

00:26:33.440 we see all the

00:26:34.460 different things,

00:26:35.140 the safe,

00:26:35.940 or I call them

00:26:36.520 dangerous injection sites

00:26:37.840 and all that stuff.

00:26:39.000 So marijuana

00:26:39.560 is a big player

00:26:40.800 in all of this.

00:26:41.920 It's not just sort of

00:26:42.900 on the side

00:26:43.460 and it's a benign thing.

00:26:45.040 It is the,

00:26:45.860 kind of the heartbeat

00:26:46.820 of all of it.

00:26:48.060 And so,

00:26:48.520 you know,

00:26:48.780 you don't have marijuana,

00:26:49.640 you don't need guns.

00:26:50.860 And you don't have

00:26:51.860 the heroin

00:26:53.080 and the,

00:26:53.880 you know,

00:26:54.140 the opioid

00:26:55.360 kind of issue

00:26:56.220 without marijuana.

00:26:57.520 So let's not kid ourselves.

00:26:59.140 Now,

00:26:59.360 I want to just say

00:27:00.300 that I think

00:27:00.860 that Bill Blair

00:27:01.380 is actually not

00:27:01.980 a bad choice for this.

00:27:03.360 I'm prepared

00:27:03.920 to give him a chance.

00:27:05.380 He is all of the above.

00:27:06.860 I mean,

00:27:06.980 there's a good side

00:27:07.760 to that guy.

00:27:08.720 He's a good cop.

00:27:09.800 And there's

00:27:10.100 that political side.

00:27:11.060 You know,

00:27:11.580 I could make the argument

00:27:12.580 that because he had his eye

00:27:14.100 on being a liberal

00:27:14.840 cabinet minister,

00:27:16.360 that that's how

00:27:16.880 we ended up

00:27:17.440 with no carding

00:27:18.200 because he didn't

00:27:19.220 back up

00:27:19.800 and tell Trudeau

00:27:21.040 and these guys

00:27:21.820 and Kathleen Wynne

00:27:23.420 when she was premier.

00:27:24.680 No,

00:27:25.060 no,

00:27:25.380 no.

00:27:25.920 We've got to be tough.

00:27:26.980 This is why

00:27:27.420 Doug Ford's

00:27:27.980 an important player

00:27:28.680 in this.

00:27:28.980 That's interesting too.

00:27:30.420 I just thought of it now.

00:27:31.780 You've got Bill Blair

00:27:32.480 and Doug Ford

00:27:33.160 going at it again

00:27:34.000 as well.

00:27:34.700 Remember last time

00:27:35.740 when Rob Ford

00:27:36.700 was mayor.

00:27:37.160 They did not get along.

00:27:38.280 No.

00:27:38.360 And so that's going

00:27:39.700 to be very interesting

00:27:40.560 and that may be

00:27:41.300 why Trudeau

00:27:41.840 has elevated

00:27:42.560 Bill Blair

00:27:43.020 up into the cabinet.

00:27:44.500 Well,

00:27:44.540 Joe,

00:27:44.700 when it comes

00:27:45.080 to public safety,

00:27:45.980 I would be most happy

00:27:47.600 to be proven wrong

00:27:48.700 about Bill Blair

00:27:49.600 because,

00:27:50.380 you know,

00:27:50.920 public safety

00:27:51.480 is preeminent.

00:27:52.380 But I tend to believe

00:27:53.500 what you've just

00:27:54.660 intimated that

00:27:55.840 this is really

00:27:56.860 about the federal

00:27:58.380 government

00:27:58.820 ensuring they get

00:28:00.820 their piece

00:28:01.840 of the action

00:28:02.380 in terms of tax revenue

00:28:03.540 from the marijuana

00:28:04.280 coming in

00:28:04.800 through legal channels.

00:28:05.480 It's going to be

00:28:05.760 a wild fight

00:28:06.840 and you want

00:28:08.860 to believe it.

00:28:09.840 You know,

00:28:10.100 nobody's saying it

00:28:10.980 but this is going

00:28:11.720 to change

00:28:12.200 the whole country.

00:28:13.560 And quick thoughts

00:28:14.180 on this little bugaboo

00:28:15.800 of this cabinet reshuffling.

00:28:17.380 Hmm,

00:28:17.940 18 males,

00:28:19.300 17 females.

00:28:20.320 I thought we had

00:28:21.020 to have that 50-50

00:28:22.400 gender equity

00:28:23.300 and I know

00:28:23.820 35 is an odd number

00:28:25.640 but still,

00:28:27.160 you know.

00:28:27.900 Well,

00:28:28.100 I just want to say

00:28:28.640 this about that.

00:28:30.080 Your perception

00:28:31.020 of it,

00:28:31.580 David,

00:28:32.040 may be different

00:28:33.080 than my perception

00:28:34.480 of it.

00:28:35.320 How you're reading

00:28:36.140 that could be

00:28:37.480 different than

00:28:38.460 the way I'm reading it.

00:28:39.320 And by the way,

00:28:39.920 I am a national reporter.

00:28:42.160 So what you're saying

00:28:42.700 is that maybe

00:28:43.140 some of these

00:28:43.940 male cabinet ministers

00:28:45.360 are currently

00:28:46.360 identifying as

00:28:47.380 female cabinet ministers. 0.99

00:28:48.660 Well,

00:28:48.740 however they feel

00:28:49.820 about it.

00:28:50.660 And this is important

00:28:51.460 because we've had

00:28:51.980 an awakening

00:28:52.540 and we as a society

00:28:54.100 have to address this

00:28:55.140 and somehow

00:28:55.520 it's all your fault. 0.74

00:28:56.840 How's that?

00:28:57.860 Well,

00:28:58.500 I got to watch

00:28:59.340 what I say.

00:29:00.040 We have to wrap it

00:29:00.680 here, folks,

00:29:01.220 because, you know,

00:29:01.840 there's a morning man

00:29:02.880 in Winnipeg

00:29:03.540 that just lost

00:29:04.900 his job

00:29:05.480 just making a joke

00:29:07.260 about trans issues.

00:29:08.520 I don't want to be

00:29:09.260 next in line.

00:29:10.280 So listen, Joe,

00:29:10.980 thank you so much

00:29:11.700 for dropping by

00:29:12.420 and folks,

00:29:13.140 keep it here.

00:29:13.880 More of the Ezra Levin

00:29:15.080 show to come

00:29:15.820 right after this.

00:29:28.380 Welcome back

00:29:29.220 to the Ezra Levin

00:29:29.960 show.

00:29:30.540 Thanks for staying

00:29:31.200 with us.

00:29:31.600 Now, on my monologue

00:29:32.940 yesterday about

00:29:33.960 Winnipeg radio host

00:29:35.220 Dave Wheeler

00:29:35.800 losing his job

00:29:37.080 for offending

00:29:38.000 the trans community,

00:29:40.140 Space Moose writes,

00:29:42.000 I think this is

00:29:42.800 the first time

00:29:43.440 the Ezra Levin

00:29:44.260 show led

00:29:44.980 with a Winnipeg

00:29:45.920 story.

00:29:46.820 It has been

00:29:47.240 a long time

00:29:48.220 since I tuned

00:29:49.040 into 92

00:29:50.100 CITI FM.

00:29:52.420 I have no plans

00:29:53.720 on tuning in

00:29:54.800 anytime soon.

00:29:56.640 Well, Space Moose,

00:29:57.640 this is the sad

00:29:58.900 reality of terrestrial

00:30:00.160 radio in Canada

00:30:01.200 today.

00:30:02.320 It has turned

00:30:02.800 into an echo

00:30:03.620 chamber in which

00:30:04.540 the same boring,

00:30:06.460 politically correct

00:30:07.580 talking points

00:30:08.740 are repeated

00:30:09.380 ad nausea.

00:30:10.780 And if you say

00:30:11.720 something even

00:30:12.660 remotely offensive,

00:30:14.720 then the social

00:30:15.580 media malcontents

00:30:16.860 demand that

00:30:17.580 the offender

00:30:18.440 must walk the plank

00:30:20.220 and forever be

00:30:21.620 shunned.

00:30:22.600 My advice for you,

00:30:23.900 subscribe to

00:30:24.560 satellite radio.

00:30:25.440 hosts there

00:30:26.240 can still

00:30:27.220 speak their

00:30:27.840 minds.

00:30:29.040 John writes,

00:30:29.960 I remember

00:30:30.520 there was a

00:30:31.100 time when

00:30:31.660 any actor

00:30:32.520 who played

00:30:33.140 a mentally 0.50

00:30:33.700 challenged

00:30:34.200 person got

00:30:34.980 the Oscar

00:30:35.640 that year.

00:30:36.840 I guess now

00:30:37.520 only mentally

00:30:38.320 challenged people 0.99

00:30:39.200 can play

00:30:40.120 those roles.

00:30:41.460 Well, you know,

00:30:41.940 great point,

00:30:42.640 John.

00:30:43.260 Is this where

00:30:43.860 we are in

00:30:44.440 terms of

00:30:44.800 identity politics

00:30:45.620 that I don't

00:30:46.520 know if they

00:30:46.820 were to make

00:30:47.160 a remake of

00:30:48.060 Rain Man,

00:30:48.880 there's no way

00:30:49.520 Dustin Hoffman

00:30:50.420 gets his old

00:30:51.100 role because

00:30:51.760 he's not

00:30:52.680 mentally challenged?

00:30:53.540 Likewise,

00:30:54.820 only a

00:30:55.520 disabled actor

00:30:56.680 can now

00:30:57.260 play the role

00:30:58.060 of a

00:30:58.440 handicapped

00:30:59.100 person?

00:31:00.160 And if this

00:31:00.840 brave new

00:31:01.660 rule means

00:31:02.500 that only

00:31:03.220 trans actors

00:31:04.320 play trans

00:31:05.280 characters,

00:31:06.380 does this

00:31:06.800 mean that

00:31:07.340 only 100%

00:31:08.680 real women 0.91

00:31:09.380 get to play

00:31:10.180 real female 0.99

00:31:11.020 characters and

00:31:12.060 that only 100%

00:31:13.280 real men

00:31:13.920 get to play

00:31:15.040 real male

00:31:16.160 characters?

00:31:17.260 Well,

00:31:17.860 too bad for

00:31:18.480 the trans actor

00:31:19.360 community because

00:31:20.180 I don't think

00:31:21.160 there are a

00:31:21.640 whole lot of

00:31:22.260 big budget

00:31:22.880 movies in

00:31:23.540 the works

00:31:23.960 featuring

00:31:24.840 trans characters.

00:31:26.420 Indeed,

00:31:27.300 I think the

00:31:28.080 trans community

00:31:28.720 may have

00:31:29.200 outsmarted

00:31:29.920 itself because

00:31:30.800 since Scarlett

00:31:31.780 Johansson

00:31:32.460 stepped down

00:31:33.480 from her

00:31:33.880 role in

00:31:34.360 Rub and 0.99

00:31:34.780 Tug,

00:31:35.520 now the

00:31:36.140 entire

00:31:36.580 project

00:31:37.480 might be

00:31:38.260 in jeopardy.

00:31:39.700 So how

00:31:40.500 is this

00:31:41.040 a win

00:31:41.920 for the

00:31:42.700 transgender

00:31:43.140 community or

00:31:44.200 anyone else

00:31:45.260 for that

00:31:45.640 matter?

00:31:46.900 And Bruce

00:31:47.480 writes,

00:31:48.620 what was

00:31:49.020 once understood

00:31:49.940 as an

00:31:50.500 obvious delusion

00:31:51.520 is now being

00:31:52.500 forced on us

00:31:53.400 as something

00:31:54.000 to be cheered

00:31:54.900 and championed?

00:31:56.320 In fact,

00:31:56.860 a time will

00:31:57.520 come when

00:31:58.080 trans deniers

00:31:58.900 will be put 0.95

00:31:59.620 in asylums 1.00

00:32:00.460 and considered

00:32:01.540 insane.

00:32:02.220 It happened

00:32:02.800 in the Soviet

00:32:03.300 Union and

00:32:04.040 I'm sure it

00:32:04.560 will happen

00:32:04.960 here if we

00:32:05.880 don't stand

00:32:06.460 against such 0.96

00:32:07.140 absolute nonsense. 0.79

00:32:08.280 Well,

00:32:08.660 Bruce,

00:32:08.960 I tend to

00:32:09.700 agree there

00:32:10.200 are some

00:32:10.700 profound mental

00:32:11.640 illness issues

00:32:12.520 in the so-called

00:32:13.440 trans community.

00:32:14.440 We used to

00:32:15.220 offer mentally 0.99

00:32:16.000 ill people

00:32:16.600 help.

00:32:17.080 Now we

00:32:17.440 pretend there's

00:32:18.120 nothing wrong

00:32:18.880 with a man

00:32:19.420 pretending to

00:32:20.020 be a woman

00:32:20.500 and a woman

00:32:21.460 pretending to

00:32:22.080 be a man

00:32:22.600 and we are

00:32:23.720 now at a

00:32:24.220 stage in

00:32:24.680 which there

00:32:25.140 are,

00:32:25.560 what,

00:32:26.040 16,

00:32:26.780 31,

00:32:27.620 84 genders

00:32:28.740 and counting.

00:32:30.100 This is utter

00:32:30.980 madness,

00:32:31.600 but as Dave

00:32:32.820 Wheeler found

00:32:33.500 out the other

00:32:34.020 day,

00:32:34.760 if you have

00:32:35.280 the utter

00:32:35.780 temerity to

00:32:36.680 insult the

00:32:37.300 trans community

00:32:38.060 while you

00:32:38.980 can just

00:32:39.520 kiss your

00:32:40.200 career goodbye,

00:32:41.760 makes you

00:32:42.300 wonder if the

00:32:43.040 inmates are

00:32:43.860 indeed running

00:32:44.880 the asylum

00:32:45.640 these days.

00:32:46.260 Well,

00:32:47.060 that's the

00:32:47.460 show today,

00:32:48.180 folks.

00:32:48.600 Thanks so

00:32:49.000 much for

00:32:49.340 watching and

00:32:50.000 hey,

00:32:50.800 keep fighting

00:32:51.260 for freedom.

00:32:52.240 Good night.

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