Rebel News Podcast - January 04, 2020


Trump kills Iranian terrorist general after U.S. Embassy attack — does this mean war?

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Trump's response to Iran's attack on the U.S. Embassy in Benghazi, Libya, is a measured but strong response. I think it's a good one, and I'll make my case for why it's the right one.

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00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today I try and make sense of the battle between the U.S. military and
00:00:06.600 the Iranian military and their terrorist auxiliaries, Trump's targeted decapitation
00:00:12.640 of a senior general over there. I like it. I don't think it's the start of a war. I think
00:00:20.560 it's a measured but strong response. I'll make my case for that, and I hope you listen.
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00:00:56.080 Tonight, Iran attacks a U.S. embassy, so Donald Trump kills an Iranian terrorist general.
00:01:10.100 So does that mean we're going to war? It's January 3rd, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
00:01:16.900 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:20.400 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer. The only thing I have to say to
00:01:26.100 the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:01:36.000 Yesterday, we talked with our friend Joel Pollack about the attempt by Iran-backed
00:01:40.300 paramilitary groups. That's another word for terrorists, by the way, including Hezbollah.
00:01:44.660 It was an attempt by them to smash their way into the massive U.S. embassy in Baghdad, Iraq.
00:01:52.460 I found the footage to be so shocking. It brought back so many awful memories of the Al-Qaeda attack
00:01:59.300 on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, where the ambassador inside was very lightly protected,
00:02:06.560 and he asked for help from Hillary Clinton, then the Secretary of State. He asked for help on more
00:02:10.920 than 29 occasions, actually, and no help ever came, and he was murdered along with three
00:02:17.560 other embassy staff. The place was overrun. It was torched. The ambassador himself was horribly
00:02:24.800 tortured before he was murdered. You know, there's a U.S. air base just across the Mediterranean
00:02:30.800 called Aviano in northern Italy. It's about a 90-minute flight from Aviano to Benghazi, I'm
00:02:40.800 guessing. So they could have sent help. They were ready, but they were never permitted to come.
00:02:48.220 How awful for both sides of that, for the Americans trapped in the consulate in Benghazi,
00:02:52.720 knowing no help would come, and how awful for the Americans ordered grounded in Aviano,
00:02:58.080 Italy, knowing they were not allowed to go help. That's the first thing I thought of. Later,
00:03:04.740 I thought of the Iranian raid on the U.S. embassy in Tehran itself in 1979, and the hostage-taking
00:03:15.000 incident there. 52 American hostages were kept for more than a year by Iran. It was a low point in
00:03:21.460 American self-respect, in American world respect, the epitome of Jimmy Carter's awful foreign policy.
00:03:27.080 It was a reason why Ronald Reagan had such a massive victory the following year.
00:03:33.760 But the thing is, Iran never really paid the price for that embassy invasion. An embassy, 0.87
00:03:38.920 legally speaking, is a patch of foreign territory you allow within your own country. It's a reciprocal 0.72
00:03:44.920 courtesy given to each other's countries, and diplomatic staff are immune. So it would be
00:03:50.720 horrendous enough for Iran to have taken hostages of any sort, let alone for 444 days. But diplomats,
00:03:59.260 it literally was an act of war. It was legally no different than had Iran invaded and occupied a
00:04:05.920 piece of the American mainland. But that's what the world has come to expect from America, certainly
00:04:12.020 from Jimmy Carter. Now, Ronald Reagan brought some respect and dignity and strength back to America,
00:04:17.280 but even he did not avenge the embassy hostage taking, did he? And soon after George W. Bush was
00:04:23.240 elected in 2001, I'm talking about Republicans, you'll notice, China forced a U.S. aircraft with 0.69
00:04:28.560 sensitive equipment and information to land in Hainan, China, and held the airmen hostage for more than a
00:04:36.060 week. What lesson do you think that taught China of what they could get away with? And Democrats, well, 0.88
00:04:42.600 don't get me started on Barack Obama. I'll just mention the most egregious example. Remember this,
00:04:48.120 I even hate to show this footage. U.S. military personnel captured in the Persian Gulf, humiliated on
00:04:54.080 camera, no comeuppance. And by the way, that body of water totally dominated by American Navy. They 1.00
00:05:01.860 weren't allowed to defend themselves. I mean, Obama wanted a deal with Iran no matter what humiliations
00:05:07.780 Iran foisted on America. You'll recall Obama literally shipped pallets of cash to Iran to beg 0.96
00:05:18.740 and bribe them to sign a deal. I won't even call it a peace deal because, of course, it did the opposite.
00:05:24.300 It legalized Iran's illegal nuclear program. It lifted the wartime-style sanctions against Iran.
00:05:31.340 It was crazy, but it was literally the most important foreign policy goal of Obama's administration
00:05:36.060 to turn Iran into a regional power. That was Obama's goal. I don't know if you recall his very first
00:05:41.480 speech as president, a foreign affairs speech. He went to Cairo in 2009. He invited the Muslim
00:05:47.980 Brotherhood terrorist group to listen to him. He promised never to interfere in Iran, no matter what. 0.85
00:05:55.900 In the middle of the Cold War, the United States played a role in the overthrow of a democratically
00:06:00.340 elected Iranian government. Since the Islamic Revolution, Iran has played a role in acts of hostage-taking
00:06:08.820 and violence against U.S. troops and civilians. This history is well known. Rather than remain trapped
00:06:16.500 in the past, I've made it clear to Iran's leaders and people that my country is prepared to move forward.
00:06:23.220 The question now is not what Iran is against, but rather what future it wants to build.
00:06:33.560 I recognize it will be hard to overcome decades of mistrust, but we will proceed with courage,
00:06:39.880 rectitude, and resolve. There will be many issues to discuss between our two countries,
00:06:46.240 and we are willing to move forward without preconditions on the basis of mutual respect.
00:06:51.140 Boy, they loved him, didn't they? Obama gave them everything. Cash, legalizing their nukes,
00:07:01.500 effectively blessing their dictatorship, undermining Iran's democracy activists,
00:07:06.880 abandoning Iran's enemies in the region. It was incredible. It was awful. Trump tried to put the
00:07:13.820 toothpaste back in the tube, trying to press countries to put sanctions on Iran again.
00:07:17.680 Here's Nikki Haley, a couple years back, who was then Trump's UN ambassador, talking about
00:07:23.780 specific sanctions on one Qasem Soleimani, the senior military and terrorist general for Iran,
00:07:32.820 the man assassinated yesterday by the Pentagon on Trump's orders. Here's Nikki Haley a couple years ago.
00:07:40.140 Iranian general and head of the IRGC Quds Force Soleimani is leading an effort to influence the
00:07:46.820 composition of a new Iraqi government. I remind my colleagues that Soleimani was banned from traveling
00:07:54.120 outside of Iran by the Security Council in 2007. That ban was reaffirmed in 2015 with the passage of
00:08:03.080 Security Council Resolution 2231. Despite this unambiguous travel ban, Soleimani has practically
00:08:11.180 taken up residence in Iraq since the May elections. This fact was noted by the Secretary General in the
00:08:18.460 most recent 2231 implementation report. And let's be clear what Soleimani is up to in Iraq. He is not
00:08:27.200 there to help create a government in Baghdad that is responsive to the Iraqi people. He is there to
00:08:33.440 build an Iraqi government that is under the control of the Iranian regime.
00:08:38.720 So America tried. Trump tried. He didn't threaten to invade Iran. Sort of the opposite. He's been
00:08:44.800 bringing troops back from the Middle East over the objections of his own generals, over the objections
00:08:49.300 of his own defense secretary. He brought America out of Syria. It's the reason he lost his last defense 0.95
00:08:55.120 secretary. You cannot call Trump a warmonger. Sort of the opposite. He pulls American troops out and
00:09:00.980 demands that American allies lift their own load. That's what he was criticizing Justin Trudeau about
00:09:06.660 just last month.
00:09:08.380 Mr. President, Canada does not meet the 2% standard. Should it have a plan to meet the 2% standard?
00:09:15.640 Well, we'll put them on a payment plan, you know? We'll put Canada on a payment plan, right? I'm sure the
00:09:20.020 prime minister would love that. What are you at? What is your number? The number we talk about is
00:09:25.660 70% increase over these past years, including and for the coming years, including significant
00:09:33.840 investments in our fighter jets, significant investments in our naval fleets. We are increasing
00:09:39.900 significantly our defense spending from previous governments that cut it. Okay. Where are you now
00:09:45.760 in terms of your number? We're at 135? 1.3. 1.4. 1.4. 1.4. And continuing to move forward.
00:09:55.600 They're getting there. They know it's important to do that. And their economy is doing well.
00:10:01.580 They'll get there quickly, I think. Look, it's to their benefit.
00:10:04.160 But it was too much, this attack on the Baghdad embassy by Iran's militias in Iraq. It was too much
00:10:14.700 like Benghazi. Trump obviously saw that parallel. He wasn't about to let his domestic political
00:10:21.900 opponents dunk on him. Look at that tweet, the anti-Benghazi. He immediately dispatched marines
00:10:27.320 from Kuwait who came in to reform, excuse me, to reinforce the embassy and secured it without
00:10:34.280 any loss of life. But still, the attack was done on the embassy. Iran-backed militias did try to
00:10:44.180 storm the embassy. The fact that they failed goes to the damage done, but not to the moral and legal
00:10:49.900 and political and military offense. Iran's militias in Iraq tried to storm the U.S. embassy on Donald
00:10:58.000 Trump's watch. Yeah, no, no, no, no. They got the wrong guy, don't you think? On New Year's Eve,
00:11:05.180 he said Iran would pay. This is not a warning. It is a threat, he said. And 48 hours later, indeed, 0.58
00:11:14.440 they did pay in a precision airstrike. Qasem Soleimani, the number two man in Iran,
00:11:21.020 the head of their military and terrorist forces, was killed. In Iraq, I should say, in Baghdad,
00:11:26.460 he was going and coming into Iraq as he pleased because he was colonizing Iraq on behalf of Iran. 0.88
00:11:33.720 It was shocking to the world that had gotten used to America being disrespected and treated
00:11:40.100 as a doormat for nearly 50 years. Benghazi, even the Tehran embassy in the 1970s. People were just
00:11:46.860 used to America taking it. Of course, the attack on the embassy in Baghdad on the 31st was an act of
00:11:53.060 war. Just like, of course, seizing U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf was an act of war. No one expected
00:11:59.460 America to defend itself, though, because they still needed to learn a little bit more about Donald
00:12:03.320 Trump, I guess. He wasn't quite like the others. The deep state, the anti-American media, they were
00:12:10.340 all shocked that Trump shot back. They were outraged. But why? Trump wasn't invading Iran,
00:12:18.300 certainly not in a ground war, as Bush did in Afghanistan and Iraq. Trump wasn't going to
00:12:24.800 spend thousands of American lives doing what? Trying to turn Afghanistan into Switzerland, 0.97
00:12:29.320 as Joel Pollack joked yesterday. Trump just decapitated a very bad man. Look at the reaction, 0.80
00:12:37.840 though. Here's Rose McGowan, a political Hollywood type. Look at that. Dear Iran, the USA has 1.00
00:12:45.360 disrespected your country, your flag, your people. 52% of us humbly apologize. We want peace with your
00:12:51.260 nation. We are being held hostage by a terrorist regime. We do not know how to escape. Please do not
00:12:56.620 kill us. Soleimani. A little bit crazy. I don't blame Rose McGowan. She is messed up. She is one 1.00
00:13:04.080 of Harvey Weinstein's rape victims. She shaves her head like Sinead O'Connor did. She's unwell, 0.95
00:13:09.760 I think. But thousands and thousands of normal people repeated and retweeted her insane comments,
00:13:15.340 none of whom objected to the Iranian assault on the U.S. Embassy in the first place. They were actually
00:13:21.400 sort of cheering for the bad guys, hoping to give Trump up Benghazi. Now, Rose McGowan's a Hollywood
00:13:26.420 personality. But here's Chris Murphy, a U.S. Senator, a Democrat, of course. Now, look at the
00:13:32.320 two tweets for comparison, just days apart. Here's the first one. After the embassy attack,
00:13:37.260 he's chiding Trump, saying, no one fears us. No one listens to us. America has been reduced to
00:13:42.780 huddling in safe rooms, hoping the bad guys will go away. And then Trump fights back, and he tweets
00:13:50.080 just the opposite. Did America just assassinate the second most powerful person in Iran? Oh,
00:13:56.540 they can never be satisfied. Trump is always wrong, no matter what he does. He does nothing
00:14:00.040 he's wrong. He does something he's wrong. But look at this glorification of Soleimani in
00:14:03.820 the New York Times. Rare personal video of General Soleimani reciting poetry shared by a source in Iran
00:14:12.980 about friends departing and him being left behind. Oh, it's so pretty. Look at him.
00:14:21.760 Looks like a nice guy. He looks a little bit like George Clooney, doesn't he? I bet he's sort of smoldering
00:14:27.820 like that. So they're playing a video of him reciting poetry with background music. They're
00:14:33.740 treating a terrorist general like a great man or a celebrity. Of course they are. So was Canada's
00:14:39.080 Globe and Mail newspaper. Look at this. Who was Qasem Soleimani? And why was he an icon in Iran? Not
00:14:45.620 a terrorist, not a murderer. He's an icon. Well, Trump knew that if he didn't explain things on
00:14:51.020 Twitter, the media sure wouldn't explain it for him. This is why Twitter is so important to him.
00:14:55.640 60 million plus people can hear from him directly, not the media who love our enemies. So here's
00:15:02.300 what Trump said. He said, General Qasem Soleimani has killed or badly wounded thousands of Americans
00:15:06.800 over an extended period of time and was plotting to kill many more, but got caught. He was directly
00:15:13.040 and indirectly responsible for the death of millions of people, including the recent large number
00:15:17.920 of protesters killed in Iran itself. While Iran will never be able to properly admit it, Soleimani
00:15:26.700 was both hated and feared within the country. They're not nearly as saddened as the leaders
00:15:30.440 will let the outside world believe. He should have been taken out many years ago.
00:15:36.120 I think that's largely true. I mean, Soleimani was a terrorist general. How can you not smile when you see
00:15:43.400 other terrorist generals of the dictatorship of Iran literally crying today? Look at that guy.
00:15:50.180 You'd need a heart of stone not to be pleased to see his tears given how many people Soleimani had
00:15:56.100 murdered, including hundreds of Americans, but of course, thousands of Iranians. Soleimani was the 0.97
00:16:02.560 head of many things in Iran. He was the number two guy for sure. He was in charge of colonizing Syria 0.99
00:16:07.400 and Iraq. He was in charge of beefing up Hezbollah terrorists around Israel. Israel had wanted to
00:16:14.480 take out Soleimani years ago, but Obama stopped them from doing so. Though Soleimani ran something
00:16:21.940 called the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps, CODs Force. Do you see that? That is on Canada's list
00:16:33.460 of banned terrorist groups under Canadian law. That's our list of terrorist groups. They're
00:16:38.980 banned. He was the head of that thing. Now, Parliament in Canada wanted to designate
00:16:47.000 all of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps as a terrorist group, not just the CODs Force.
00:16:54.600 Even some liberals like this Jewish Trudeau MP from Toronto named Michael Levitt. Look at this tweet
00:16:59.560 from June of last year. Michael Levitt says, Earlier today, I sent the following letter to Ralph
00:17:04.740 Godale asking him to initiate the process for listing the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps
00:17:10.320 as a terrorist entity in Canada, further to the House motion on Iran adopted on Tuesday.
00:17:17.320 He has confirmed that the process has been initiated. That was in June of 2018, and the process has not
00:17:25.720 yet concluded. Isn't that amazing? Yeah. But Trudeau just doesn't believe that Iranians are terrorists
00:17:33.180 because Trudeau is actually pro-Iran in terrifying ways. In recent weeks, credible news reports have
00:17:39.380 alleged that one of Trudeau's own MPs, Majid Jahari, is an Iranian asset working with Iran. Now,
00:17:46.540 he denies it. We sent our own David Menzies to Johari's house to ask him, but he wouldn't even come
00:17:52.240 out the door to answer. There are other strange things, like the fact that liberal MP Miriam
00:17:57.340 Monsef is permitted by Iran to travel freely back and forth to that country. Extremely unusual. 0.62
00:18:05.060 And of course, you know, she lied. She claimed to be born in Afghanistan when, in fact, she was born
00:18:11.500 in Iran. Look at this lie. So you were born in Afghanistan, correct? I believe I was. 1.00
00:18:16.280 So whose side is she on? Whose side is Johari on? Whose side is Trudeau on? Well, Trudeau's brother,
00:18:24.000 Alexandre Trudeau, literally made a film in cooperation with the Iranian government,
00:18:29.440 a pro-Iran, anti-U.S. film called The New Great Game. And as you'll recall, Justin Trudeau appointed
00:18:37.140 Alexandre Trudeau to be his chief foreign policy advisor during his leadership campaign. So we're in
00:18:43.160 trouble deep. So where's Justin Trudeau now? Well, he's still in Costa Rica. Here's his schedule for
00:18:50.780 today. He's now into his third week of vacation there. Seriously, who takes a three-week vacation?
00:18:59.340 World leader, at least, in the middle of a crisis, one of many crises. Well, Trudeau does, of course.
00:19:06.540 Our media couldn't care less. They don't dare to ask about his absence. They'll lose their bailout money
00:19:11.600 if they do. We have to rely on people on the streets of Costa Rica to tweet pictures of a
00:19:17.300 haggard-looking Trudeau buying booze or whatever he was doing there. Who knows? Marijuana? Maybe. I
00:19:23.320 don't know. We know he loved the stuff. He still hasn't poked his head up, even though the world is
00:19:28.300 on the verge of what? War, maybe? I don't know. Hundreds of Canadian soldiers are in Iraq right now.
00:19:34.640 But he did send out his foreign minister with a statement. This guy. Trudeau couldn't be bothered
00:19:41.200 to shave and put on a suit. He's probably stoned. I'm not even being mean. We know he's a lifelong
00:19:45.980 marijuana user, and he's deep into a three-week vacation. But here's the statement that his foreign
00:19:51.480 minister named Francois-Philippe Champagne put out. But here's the key sentence.
00:19:58.380 We call on all sides to exercise restraint and pursue de-escalation. Really. So on the one side,
00:20:08.980 you have the United States, our democratic friend and ally, that killed an Iranian terrorist leader
00:20:14.620 in Iraq, by the way, after an attack on the U.S. embassy while planning more attacks. That's the
00:20:20.600 one side. And on the other side, you have a pro-terrorist dictatorship, a Muslim theocracy that 0.98
00:20:27.020 sponsors violence around the world that has surely killed Canadians too. And Trudeau's foreign minister 0.89
00:20:32.500 says, both sides have to cool it. They're both morally equal. Both are to blame, I suppose.
00:20:39.460 Both have to simmer down. Both have to restrain themselves. That's what the statement says. Both
00:20:44.320 sides. A democracy has to restrain itself as much as a terrorist group does. That's Canada's position.
00:20:50.880 That's Trudeau's position, at least. Well, we already know that's Trudeau because he has
00:20:55.260 had two Canadian hostages in China for more than a year. And he doesn't really give a damn about them.
00:21:02.100 He's just shocked that any other world leader might actually care about their own citizens and
00:21:07.500 fight back for them. Stay with us for more.
00:21:11.080 Well, maybe you've heard the name Andy Ngo. He's a Vietnamese American from Portland. Portland's
00:21:30.100 such a lovely city, beautiful, but politically a very sick city. It's a hotbed of Antifa extremism.
00:21:40.700 Now, I don't like to call Antifa by that name. It stands for anti-fascism. But of course,
00:21:46.760 like most perverse things, its name is opposite of what it is. Like the Human Rights Commission
00:21:52.820 is against human rights. Antifa are actually fascists themselves. And the reason I mention
00:21:59.680 this is because when Andy Ngo went to cover an Antifa protest in his home city of Portland,
00:22:05.960 he was brutally and physically attacked. You can see him being swarmed by fascists, punched
00:22:15.160 kick. That's him right there. He was actually wounded. And they wouldn't let up. They filmed 0.75
00:22:24.940 their own attack. You can see they're dressed in black with face masks. That is a tactic called
00:22:31.400 Black Block to make them hard to identify, as is the masks. Well, Andy Ngo would not be silenced. In 0.93
00:22:40.460 fact, it became a bit of a springboard for him to talk about what he had learned in his home city of
00:22:46.040 Portland. He did the media circuit on the growing threat of these street gangs in America that are
00:22:52.440 really the street gangs, the paramilitary wing of the U.S. Democratic Party. Well, we have some
00:22:58.400 Antifa violence in Canada, too. Thankfully, it's not to the same extent as seems to be permitted in
00:23:05.340 the United States, but it's worth discussing. And so at the University of British Columbia,
00:23:10.060 which is not far from Portland, Andy Ngo was invited to speak about the threat. In fact,
00:23:16.980 the title of his discussion was Understanding Antifa Violence. And he was invited by the aptly named
00:23:25.700 Free Speech Club at UBC. The whole discussion is set to happen on January 29th, just a few weeks from
00:23:34.220 now, until the University of British Columbia decided they were going to cancel the discussion
00:23:42.120 about Antifa violence because of the threat of Antifa violence. Here to explain it is Andy Ngo's
00:23:51.040 lawyer who is telling the CBC, you'd better go ahead with the talk or else you know the lawyer. He's one
00:23:58.820 of the few free speech lawyers left in Canada. His name is John Carpe and he's the boss of the Justice
00:24:03.880 Center for Constitutional Freedoms. John, great to see you again. Happy New Year. Happy New Year to you,
00:24:08.560 Ezra, and to all of the viewers of The Rebel. Well, thank you very much. Did I accurately summarize who
00:24:14.240 Andy Ngo is and what the nature of his planned January 29th talk at UBC is?
00:24:22.400 Yes, absolutely. He's scheduled to come in on January the 29th and speak. We hope the event will be
00:24:29.520 reinstated. UBC gave a green light to the Free Speech Club back in November to hold this event.
00:24:37.540 And then suddenly, just before Christmas, December the 20th, the UBC said, no, we're cancelling the
00:24:45.800 event. They cite safety and security. I call it the SS. I've been dealing with the SS for a long time.
00:24:53.640 It's safety and security is always used as a pretext for trampling on free speech. And I've seen
00:25:00.420 it at the University of Calgary, at the University of Alberta, and throughout all across Canada. You get
00:25:07.480 the SS that is trampling on free speech, safety and security. UBC was not specific about,
00:25:16.080 you know, was this Antifa? Or did they feel that people might be emotionally triggered by
00:25:23.620 having, you know, possibly hearing what Andy Ngo had to say? Not clear. Just safety and security is
00:25:31.980 all that was mentioned. Well, you know what? It sounds like they, it sounds like one of two
00:25:37.320 things. Either they are ideologically opposed to Andy Ngo, and I haven't met the lad, but I've
00:25:43.480 talked to him on the phone, and I've had some correspondence with him. He seems very mild-mannered.
00:25:49.360 He couldn't possibly be offensive. His style is very, very calm.
00:25:56.800 Yeah, very calm, very academic, very philosophical.
00:25:59.340 Yeah, and I mean, not that it matters, but he happens to be a Vietnamese American, and he
00:26:06.380 happens to be gay, and neither of those are relevant other than, like, he's not a big, brutish, 0.99
00:26:13.700 you know, skinhead, I'm a white surprised, like, he's, like, he presents no challenge to the 0.86
00:26:18.920 woke culture other than he's calling out Antifa. So there's nothing endemic to who he is that's
00:26:27.740 offensive in any way. In fact, he checks all the boxes for, you know, today's academic left,
00:26:35.300 other than he's calling out the violence of it. So it could be an antipathy towards Andy Ngo, but I
00:26:41.060 don't see that. So I think they're just caving in to a threat of violence, and I don't know how big
00:26:49.180 UBC's security personnel is. Like, it's a pretty big university. It's one in Canada's biggest.
00:26:55.880 They probably have more than 100 security guards on that campus. They probably have very close
00:27:03.220 working relationships with the RCMP, with Vancouver, or Richmond, or Burnaby. I don't know,
00:27:11.080 sorry, I'm sorry, I don't know which police force would be. But there's no way they could not handle
00:27:18.160 a challenge of some protesters. And even if some protesters brought masks and clubs, as we saw in
00:27:24.380 Portland, there is absolutely no way UBC security, or RCMP, or city police can't handle it. I think
00:27:32.920 they're just taking the easy way out, the coward's way out, and they're joining the mob themselves.
00:27:38.280 Well, we can't let Antifa or anybody else dictate who is allowed to speak and who is not allowed to
00:27:45.720 speak. And you know, it's interesting, you mentioned earlier, you know, their name,
00:27:49.720 anti-fascist. But it was fascists in Europe in the 1920s and 30s. And not just in Germany and Italy,
00:27:57.740 but in most European countries had fascist movements. And these people rejected debate,
00:28:03.540 they rejected intellectual inquiry. And their attitude was, if we don't like what you're saying,
00:28:09.420 we're going to shut you up. We're going to shut down your events. And we're going to be a bunch
00:28:14.300 of thugs. And we're going to interrupt and obstruct, you know, and, and really, the free society and
00:28:21.400 free expression are actually, in a way, they're quite fragile, because all it takes is, you know,
00:28:26.660 one person to get up in a, you know, if there's a conference, for example, or there's a speaker,
00:28:30.980 there's a debate, all it takes is one person to stand up and start shouting. And that can, you know,
00:28:37.100 shut down the debate or delay it, you know, you have to have the person removed. So I mean,
00:28:43.020 if we care about the free society, we need UBC to step up to the plate. And it's not just UBC. I mean,
00:28:49.220 the University of Alberta in Edmonton has condoned mob censorship of pro-life display. In a case that's
00:28:56.500 before the courts, we're still waiting for a decision. But UBC cannot pander to this kind of
00:29:02.800 mob censorship, where somebody takes it upon themselves to declare that somebody else is not
00:29:10.360 allowed to be heard. You know, and the more that you pander to this stuff, the more that you cave
00:29:16.700 into it, the stronger that it grows and becomes. Last question, I know you got to run. You have
00:29:23.880 been retained, the JCCF, and I'm very glad of it. What is, I don't want you to give away all your
00:29:30.480 legal strategy, because I know, you know, some of that may be privileged. But what is your legal
00:29:35.720 grounds? Or what is your rationale that you're saying, hey, UBC, you're breaking this rule,
00:29:41.300 or you're breaking this contract? What is your grounds for sending a demand letter to the UBC?
00:29:48.340 Well, there's administrative law, there's a duty of fairness that UBC owes, that all large bodies owe
00:29:55.400 to other people. So to have approved an event, and have the Free Speech Club, you know, book the flights
00:30:04.160 for Andy Ngo to come to Vancouver, to incur these expenses, and then suddenly, without any specific
00:30:12.880 reason, without warning, suddenly pull the rug out from under, you know, they were selling tickets on
00:30:17.300 on Eventbrite for the event. So there's administrative law, and there's contract law. UBC has a legal
00:30:24.580 obligation towards its students and towards the students clubs, to honour its own statements about
00:30:31.540 freedom of expression being a forum where all views can be presented and debated. And so UBC and all
00:30:38.900 universities have a legal obligation in contract law to facilitate free expression on campus. So legal
00:30:46.900 grounds are that UBC has violated the contract that it has with its own student, with the Free Speech
00:30:53.140 Club, as well as administrative law has violated its duty to, of fairness. Well, John, we wish you good
00:31:00.820 luck. We'll let it go there, and we will be sending a reporter to cover the event on the 29th,
00:31:06.980 God willing, if it proceeds, and I hope it does. John, keep fighting for freedom, my friend.
00:31:11.620 Thanks, Ezra. All right, there you have it. John Carpe, he's the boss of the Justice Center for
00:31:15.940 Constitutional Freedom. You can find their website at jccf.ca. Stay with us. More ahead on The Rebel.
00:31:32.020 Hey, welcome back to my monologue yesterday about CBC's coverage of an illegal pipeline protest.
00:31:37.220 Devin writes, liberals have created a country where one protester can bring down the economy.
00:31:42.420 Yeah, that's not too far from the truth. 20 out of 20 Indian bands along that pipeline wanted to go,
00:31:49.220 but it's been delayed years because a handful of American-funded troublemakers. Mark writes,
00:31:56.020 the liberal propaganda from CBC is a big reason why Confederation is falling apart. Defund the CBC.
00:32:01.700 Well, on the oil and gas issue, I kid you not, David Suzuki, who was their star for decades,
00:32:07.140 ran a registered lobby group against the oil sands. The CBC used their mighty resources and their
00:32:14.340 platform to follow his personal agenda, his lobbying agenda. It's a devastating effect.
00:32:22.420 On my interview with Joel Pollack, Richard writes, attacking the American embassy was the last straw.
00:32:27.380 Iran finally went too far. 0.99
00:32:28.820 Yeah, but I don't think Donald Trump's going to invade. I mean, as Joel pointed out, it's not like
00:32:33.940 America has 100,000 troops in the theater and no one wants a ground invasion of Iran. Probably not
00:32:40.180 necessary. This was a surgical strike that knocked out the number two guy. Bit of a shock and awe move.
00:32:45.780 But, you know, I saw that Jagmeet Singh did a tweet. Oh, we American actions in Iran. American
00:32:51.620 knew anything in Iran. That's part of the craziness here. This Iranian general was in Iraq 0.99
00:32:56.660 Iraq. Illegally, by the way. So yeah, crazy. Well, that's our show for today. That brings our week to a 1.00
00:33:03.220 close. Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home,
00:33:08.340 good night, and keep fighting for freedom.