Rebel News Podcast - Twitter reveals plans to censor Trump in the upcoming election

00:00:00.000 Hello, my friends. Today, I take you through Twitter's bizarre attempt to censor the President

00:00:05.720 of the United States. They don't yet have the courage to delete his account. That would probably

00:00:10.480 hurt their stock, as so many people go on Twitter just to follow Trump, and he would go somewhere

00:00:14.680 else and take his viewers and their ad dollars with him. But they're rebutting him. The only

00:00:21.760 politician on Twitter I'm aware they do that to, they don't do that to Joe Biden or Justin Trudeau.

00:00:27.040 I'll take you through what happened and what Twitter says about it. I'll show you why I think

00:00:32.020 it's a joke. That's ahead before I get to it. Please consider supporting Rebel News by becoming

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00:00:50.180 and David Menzies. Okay, here's today's podcast.

00:00:57.040 Tonight, Twitter drops its mask and reveals its plans to censor Donald Trump in the upcoming

00:01:13.200 election. It's May 28th, and this is The Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:16.360 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:22.160 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:26.220 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody

00:01:31.100 right to do so.

00:01:37.020 Do you know who always lies on Twitter? Politicians you don't like. You know who never lies on Twitter?

00:01:44.740 Politicians you do like. How is that possible? Because I say your guy's lying, and you say no,

00:01:51.440 no, my guy's lying. Or let's take the middleman out of it. I say you're wrong, and you say I'm wrong.

00:01:56.500 So what do we do? Well, nothing. That's called life. It's called variety. It's how we live. It's

00:02:01.580 how we can cheer for different sports teams and all be right. It's why some people would never drive a

00:02:06.540 Ford. Others would never drive a Dodge. It's certainly politics. Other than perhaps the casual use of the

00:02:11.520 word lying, which is harsh because it implies knowingly saying something false for the purpose

00:02:17.100 maybe of tricking someone, it's completely healthy to disagree on things. You can disagree on facts

00:02:22.160 even. You can certainly disagree on opinions or feelings, and all of it, facts, opinions, feelings,

00:02:27.520 arguments, whatever, makes up your worldview, makes up politics, makes up an election campaign really.

00:02:32.220 My favorite thing about our system is that at the end of the day, ordinary people get to be the

00:02:36.480 judge of things. Hillary Clinton had all the celebrities and all the experts and all the 1.00

00:02:40.260 establishment on her side. She spent about a billion dollars more than Trump did in the election. 1.00

00:02:44.680 She still lost. I love that for the same reason I love how Michael Bloomberg spent a billion dollars

00:02:50.180 for his very brief run for the Democratic Party nomination, and he lost too. Because ordinary

00:02:55.560 people get to make the final arbitration in the dispute. But we love disputes. They're an important

00:03:02.040 part of democracy. They're the basis for it, really. Imagine a judicial system, a court system,

00:03:07.220 without a dispute. You can't really, other than the fake court systems in totalitarian regimes like

00:03:12.780 China or the former Soviet Union, where it's just a show trial where the guilt was known in advance.

00:03:18.740 There was no dispute about it. And the rest was just a show to teach people what would happen to

00:03:23.680 them if they decided to dispute the state. Our legal system, our parliament, we take Canada's biggest

00:03:30.360 complainer, give him a free house, a huge staff, a big salary, and we give him a title called Her Majesty's

00:03:37.120 Loyal Opposition. As in, we acknowledge that he is opposing, and it's not disloyal by nature,

00:03:45.260 and we insist on it, and we give him all sorts of legal protections. Someone proposes, someone opposes.

00:03:51.440 It's a back and forth. And through that back and forth, the truth is hopefully found. It's a dispute.

00:03:56.260 Dispute. I know you're thinking, okay, Ezra, stop belaboring the point. Well, I'm trying to tell you

00:04:01.780 the deep meaning, the deep history of the word dispute. It's not a bad thing by definition. I

00:04:07.000 suppose there's a point where disputing for its own sake becomes just being quarrelsome. But in a way,

00:04:12.360 all human progress depends on disputing. Being able to challenge things to see if there's a better way.

00:04:17.240 Being open yourself to being challenged on the off chance that maybe you're wrong on something,

00:04:23.180 and you'd prefer to be right. Here's a woodcut from the year 1483 showing an official disputation,

00:04:30.780 an official debate with formalized rules. In this case, it was a theological debate between

00:04:36.060 Christians and Jews. It was an attempt to reason through things as opposed to have a violent war over

00:04:42.040 it. Historically, violence sometimes did accompany some disputations, unfortunately. But my point is,

00:04:48.280 the whole purpose, the whole point of a dispute, a disputation, the ancient roots of that word is

00:04:54.340 that we prefer to talk things out than to fight things out. As Churchill is supposed to have said,

00:04:59.840 it's better to jaw jaw than to war war. And he would know he fought in five wars. So thank you for

00:05:06.160 listening for a five-minute preamble on the word dispute. Here's why I'm so focused on that word

00:05:10.200 dispute. Because a couple days ago, Donald Trump made a tweet, as he tends to do, to his 80 million

00:05:15.980 Twitter followers. And he said this, he said, there is no way zero that mail-in ballots will be

00:05:21.480 anything less than substantially fraudulent. Mailboxes will be robbed. Ballots will be forged

00:05:26.700 and even illegally printed out and fraudulently signed. The governor of California is sending

00:05:30.740 ballots to millions of people, anyone living in the state, no matter who they are or how they got

00:05:36.260 there, will get one that will be followed up with professionals telling all these people, many of

00:05:41.400 whom have never even thought of voting before, how and for whom to vote. This will be a rigged

00:05:45.620 election. No way. Okay, so that's clearly his point of view. It's an opinion. It's actually not

00:05:53.380 even an opinion, which you could say is a comment based on a fact. Because this was actually a

00:05:59.040 prediction. He thinks something will happen in the future. He thinks mailboxes will be robbed. I think

00:06:07.440 that's fairly reasonable. He says he's worried that politicians will tell people how to vote.

00:06:13.340 They will try to take over future tense. I think those are all obvious risks. And I bet some or all

00:06:19.100 of them come true. But they're not even statements of fact. They're not even really opinions. They're

00:06:23.400 predictions about the future. You can agree. You can disagree. You can have a disputation with him.

00:06:28.480 You can even do so right there on Twitter. And it's clear that Trump does read Twitter.

00:06:32.420 So you might even get his attention. And who knows, he might actually change his mind. It could happen.

00:06:37.440 I doubt it. But you could more likely change the minds of other people watching your disputation.

00:06:43.140 That's part of the fun of it. But look at the bottom of those tweets. I've never seen anything

00:06:48.540 like that before. Get the facts about mail-in ballots. What? And it's a link. And when you click

00:06:54.240 it, you take them to this political advocacy page put together by Twitter itself that says,

00:07:00.520 Trump makes unsubstantiated claim that mail-in ballots will lead to voter fraud. Well, like I say,

00:07:05.860 that's the sort of thing about the future predictions. They cannot be substantiated until

00:07:10.920 the future unfolds. If I were to say, I predict that Joe Biden will be replaced by the Democrats

00:07:16.420 because he's just too weak and they don't want to lose. That's not an unsubstantiated thing. It's a

00:07:22.560 prediction. I predict I will gain another 10 pounds during the quarantine. I predict I will lose 20 pounds.

00:07:29.900 It's not true or false. It's not unsubstantiated. It's a guess or a hope.

00:07:35.160 Look at what Twitter wrote. What you need to know. Trump claimed that mail-in ballots... Well,

00:07:40.740 hang on. Stop right there. Is it correct that I need to know it? Is that substantial? Hey,

00:07:45.960 fact check. Twitter says I need to know this. I don't. Okay, let me keep going. Trump claimed that

00:07:50.800 mail-in ballots would lead to a rigged election. However, fact checkers say there is no evidence that

00:07:56.320 mail-in ballots are linked to voter fraud. Trump falsely claimed that California will send mail-in

00:08:01.180 ballots to anyone living in this state, no matter who they are or how they got there. In fact, only

00:08:05.280 registered voters will receive ballots. Five states already vote entirely by mail and all states offer

00:08:10.060 some form of mail-in absentee voting, according to NBC News. All right, well, who are all these fact

00:08:15.640 checkers? Why can't I see their sources and their proof? Why has Twitter put itself in the role of a judge?

00:08:20.900 Why can't I judge for myself? And why is it only this one president from this one political party

00:08:27.320 who is being corrected and denounced, really, by Twitter? Are there no other lies on all of Twitter?

00:08:33.600 Obvious lies. Very senior Chinese diplomats have published kooky conspiracy theories that the United

00:08:39.560 States military created the coronavirus. It's laughably false. It's maliciously false.

00:08:45.320 Twitter doesn't care, though. No correction or counterweight to them.

00:08:47.660 By the way, citizens in China are banned from using Twitter by their own government,

00:08:52.000 but Twitter is happy to let the Chinese government propagandists on their site.

00:08:55.500 No truth warning under them. Now, Twitter cites the Washington Post, which is owned by Amazon's

00:09:01.440 Jeff Bezos, as proof that Trump was wrong. Okay, but what are the Washington Post politics? They're

00:09:06.880 liberal, obviously. So like I say, it's a dispute. Two sides to a dispute. Twitter should be hosting the

00:09:13.560 debate. Perfect. A forum, a platform. So why do they now suddenly set themselves up as the umpire

00:09:20.180 of this debate, the judge of this debate? Look at this. Here's a Washington Post article promoted by

00:09:27.200 Twitter that claims Trump is wrong on voter fraud. It's written by a guy named Philip Bump. I love that

00:09:34.260 name. What a wonderful name, Philip Bump. I checked him out on LinkedIn, and he has a philosophy degree.

00:09:40.620 He worked as a software designer for two years. Pretty good. And then he worked for a series of

00:09:46.100 left-wing blogs. I don't know. Maybe he's a genius, Philip Bump. Maybe he knows more than the president

00:09:51.980 of the United States and all the president's advisors. Could be. But like I say, it's a dispute.

00:09:57.060 I'm actually siding with the president on this one. Common sense tells us there is voter fraud all the

00:10:01.600 time, and that mail-in ballots would likely increase that. I'm not sure why anyone's trying to deny that.

00:10:06.240 Why not make the more reasonable argument, which I think would be, of course there's going to be

00:10:11.840 more voter fraud, but that's an acceptable price to pay, some would say, to increase voter

00:10:18.140 participation. Now, I would disagree with that myself. I would say if you can't be bothered to

00:10:23.900 walk to the voting station, you really don't care enough to vote. But why are you pretending that

00:10:28.640 mail-in ballots won't increase fraud when they obviously will, even a little?

00:10:32.200 I just typed in U.S. Postal Service voter fraud into Google, and dozens of stories popped up,

00:10:41.300 including this press release from the Justice Department just two days ago.

00:10:46.280 Pendleton County mail carrier charged with attempted election fraud. Elkins, West Virginia.

00:10:52.040 Thomas Cooper, a mail carrier in Pendleton County, was charged today in a criminal complaint with

00:10:57.180 attempted election fraud. U.S. Attorney Bill Powell announced Cooper, age 47, of Dry Fork, West

00:11:03.840 Virginia, is charged with attempt to defraud the residents of West Virginia of a fair election.

00:11:10.160 According to the affidavit filed with a complaint, Cooper held a U.S. Postal Service contract to

00:11:14.440 deliver mail in Pendleton County. In April 2020, that's just last month, the clerk of Pendleton County

00:11:20.920 received 2020 primary election COVID-19 mail and absentee request forms from eight voters on which

00:11:26.320 the voters' party ballot request appeared to have been altered.

00:11:31.940 So who are you going to believe? Twitter and Philip Bump or your lying eyes? 0.79

00:11:39.580 So who's in charge of these decisions to snipe and snark at Trump? Well, the boss of Twitter's 0.94

00:11:46.020 trust and safety system is named Yoel Roth. So he's one of the arbiters in this dispute.

00:11:53.680 But scroll through his tweets in the months before the 2016 election of Trump and then

00:12:00.040 actually all the way up to the inauguration. He despises Trump. He mocks Trump. He hates

00:12:06.480 Trump and Trump voters. I think he's toxic. I think he's abusive. I think he's a little bit insane. 0.99

00:12:13.020 Perfect. Let him join the dispute. Him and Philip Bump versus Trump. Bump versus Trump. 0.98

00:12:21.900 Except no, no, no. This Yoel Roth and Philip Bump, they're the ones Twitter put in charge of the

00:12:28.420 fact check here. I'm not kidding. Well, the internet smoked that out pretty quickly. And so the CEO of

00:12:33.680 Twitter joined in defending his extremist Twitter trust and safety officials. Here's what he said

00:12:40.900 about that. This is Jack Dorsey. He said, fact check. There is someone ultimately accountable

00:12:46.480 for our actions as a company, and that's me. Please leave our employees out of this. We'll continue to

00:12:51.120 point out incorrect or disputed information about elections globally, and we will admit to and own

00:12:56.960 any mistakes we make. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Jack, how can we leave your

00:13:01.660 employees out of this? They can leave themselves out of it by staying out of it, by letting Trump

00:13:08.220 and Biden debate and letting the rest of us be the peanut gallery. We can give our views too. We can

00:13:12.680 judge the disputation, but leave your employees out of it. If only we could, Jack. If only they would, Jack.

00:13:19.980 He's not a mere employee. He's a hardcore Trump derangement syndrome partisan. Does Joe Biden get a

00:13:25.640 hall monitor like that too? If so, it's got to be someone as hardcore on the right as this Yoel Roth guy

00:13:31.240 is on the left. So it's got to be like Alex Jones of Infowars, someone that bellicose, because

00:13:35.140 that's who Yoel Roth is on the left. But look at that phrase. We will continue to point out incorrect

00:13:41.980 or disputed information. Well, it's all disputed information. All information is disputed by someone,

00:13:49.400 and an election campaign is the proper place to dispute it. And the rule for disputations in an

00:13:55.360 election is pretty simple. Whatever the voters choose. Oh, sure. There are also some criminal

00:14:00.520 laws that could theoretically apply to, I don't know, a death threat or something. But that's not

00:14:05.240 what we're talking about here. We're talking about who gets to make a political decision about election

00:14:09.480 fraud and what team we trust in an election. And the answer is the voters get to decide. But Jack

00:14:14.660 Dorsey and Yoel Roth and Twitter want to put their finger on the scale to make sure it ends the right

00:14:19.780 way. They want Trump to lose, obviously. Don't take my word for it. Here's a video taken undercover

00:14:25.240 by Project Veritas at Twitter headquarters that shows how Twitter staff talk when they let their

00:14:30.240 guard down. Listen to this for a minute. We're trying to get the shitty people not go off. It's a product

00:14:34.740 thing. Let's say it pulls a pro-Trump thing, and I am anti-Trump. I was like, oh, I abandoned this

00:14:41.300 whole account. It'll go to you. And then it's at your discretion. And if you're anti-Trump, you're like,

00:14:47.120 oh, you know what? I'm almost right. Let it go. The idea of a shadow ban is that you ban someone,

00:14:52.860 but they don't know they've been banned because they keep posting, but no one sees their content.

00:14:58.140 So they just think that no one's engaging with their content when in reality, no one's seeing it.

00:15:02.760 I don't know if Twitter does this anymore. How do you know if it's a lie and not a normal person?

00:15:08.080 Oh, you use machine learning. You look for Trump or America and you have like 5,000 keywords to describe

00:15:14.040 a redneck. And then you look and you like parse all the messages, all like the pictures, and then you look 0.83

00:15:20.900 for like stuff that matches like that stuff. So is it going to like essentially bam certain mindsets

00:15:28.020 and or people who could be negative? Yeah. No. It's not going to bend a mindset. It's going to bend like

00:15:34.140 the way of talking. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds pretty neutral to me, Jack. Here's Jack Dorsey trying to call

00:15:41.260 an apple and orange. He says, this does not make us an arbiter of truth. Oh, really?

00:15:48.120 Our intention is to connect the dots of conflicting statements and show the information in dispute so

00:15:53.200 people can judge for themselves. More transparency from us is critical so folks can clearly see

00:15:58.380 the why behind our actions. Nah, mate. No, no, no. You said Trump's claims were unsubstantiated.

00:16:05.760 It's what you said. That's another way of saying what he said wasn't true, even though what he said

00:16:11.900 was a prediction for the future. And by the way, it certainly is substantiated. Just two days ago,

00:16:16.900 a postman was charged with tampering with ballots. And we can see you. We can see that you're only

00:16:23.620 doing this to Trump, not to Biden, not to Nancy Pelosi, not to Justin Trudeau up here in Canada,

00:16:29.000 not to the corrupt World Health Organization, which has pumped out lie after lie about the virus.

00:16:33.400 You're not doing this to foreign dictators who you let use Twitter for propaganda and they won't let 0.97

00:16:38.920 their own people use it for information. It is no coincidence that this is happening in 2020,

00:16:44.080 the year of the election. Silicon Valley billionaires think they can choose the next president.

00:16:51.680 Do you think they're right? Stay with us for more.

00:17:03.400 Well, Donald Trump is perhaps the most riveting man in politics in our age, no doubt about it.

00:17:12.920 But it has been a joy and a horror to watch the circus of the Democratic Party's presidential

00:17:20.580 primary. What a cast of characters. My favorite was mini Mike Bloomberg, who blew a billion dollars

00:17:29.020 trying to get Americans to like him. He couldn't. But, you know, that's just a that's like a few

00:17:34.240 nickels to you and me. As you know, over the last six months, as we've been following the

00:17:39.380 Democratic presidential primaries, we have relied primarily, if I can use that word, on our friend

00:17:45.140 Joel Pollack, the senior editor at large at Breitbart dot com, who has covered the Democratic race

00:17:51.500 intently and not just from his base in L.A. But as you know, sometimes he's joined us from the road,

00:17:57.600 literally the road or other venues across America. And I didn't know this until now.

00:18:03.520 Besides giving us his updates along the way, he was writing a new book and you can get it now or

00:18:10.860 you can preorder it now. It'll be released in July. The title is Red November. That's a great title,

00:18:18.540 isn't it? Will the country vote red for Trump or red for socialism? And joining us now via Skype is

00:18:27.040 our friend Joel Pollack. Joel, that's a great name. It makes me think of the hunt for Red October.

00:18:31.180 Of course, Red October being the Soviet phrase. Red November, I guess that's how it would come to

00:18:36.100 America, wouldn't it? Well, then we chose the title. Well, my initial proposal was to call it

00:18:41.620 the hunt for Red November. It was indeed a play on that movie and novel. And yes, it's a reference to

00:18:50.520 the Soviet Revolution. But my publisher pointed out that red states are also what we use to refer

00:18:57.500 to Republican states as well. So it's a hunt for Red November in two senses, both Red in socialism and

00:19:03.420 Red for Republican. And we don't know yet which one of the American people are going to choose.

00:19:08.320 The book tells the story of the Democratic primary, which has been the most left-wing primary in American

00:19:14.180 political history and has emerged with a nominee who, even though he is described as a moderate,

00:19:20.040 is the most left-wing nominee in the history of American presidential elections.

00:19:24.480 Yeah, I mean, Joe Biden is funny because I don't think people paid very close attention to him

00:19:28.600 when he was Barack Obama's sidekick, because Obama was so much more interesting and so much more

00:19:33.440 fluent. I wonder if he was properly vetted, because he certainly comes across as reasonable and a

00:19:43.040 friendly neighbor next door. And because he looks like a stereotypical white senior citizen, 0.88

00:19:50.360 well-dressed, like he looks like a moderate would look. A radical might look like Ilhan Omar,

00:19:56.940 might be young and a little bit alternative looking. Joe Biden looks central casting,

00:20:02.840 boring guy, vice president. But you're saying he's the most radical nominee ever chosen?

00:20:07.440 Well, I don't know if he's radical. He's left-wing. There's a difference, I think,

00:20:12.820 between radical and left-wing. Radical can imply also a kind of audacity in tactics. I think Obama

00:20:20.060 was a radical. I think Biden is left-wing. And Biden is left-wing because he's had to shift his

00:20:25.940 positions from somewhere left of center, maybe what we used to call liberal, over to the left. And you

00:20:34.180 look at everything he's now advocating. He used to oppose federal funding for abortions. Now he

00:20:41.280 wants the Hyde Amendment repealed so that federal taxpayers would fund abortions. He used to say we

00:20:46.860 need a middle-of-the-road approach to climate change. Now he says he wants to eliminate the

00:20:51.300 fossil fuel industry and the coal industry. And by the way, when he campaigned for Obama, he campaigned

00:20:55.980 for clean coal. That's out the window. He used to talk about Medicare for All as a kind of pie in the

00:21:03.320 sky when Bernie Sanders proposed it. But now he's adopting pieces of that proposal, like lowering

00:21:08.680 the Medicare eligibility age to 60 and so forth. So he is inching over to the left. And he's almost

00:21:15.660 unrecognizable from the Joe Biden of 10 years ago, 15 years ago. And he's had to do that to capture some

00:21:24.120 of Bernie Sanders' base, but also to appeal to a party in general that has shifted to the left.

00:21:29.440 On every single policy, Joe Biden today is further to the left than Joe Biden was a year ago and further

00:21:37.060 to the left than any Democratic Party presidential nominee has ever been. And you don't have to take

00:21:41.280 my word for it. You can take his own word for it and Barack Obama's word for it. Obama said in endorsing

00:21:46.600 Joe Biden that he would be the most progressive president running on the most progressive platform

00:21:52.180 in history. And he included himself in that. And he almost apologetically said, well, I couldn't run on

00:21:57.440 all this stuff when I was running for president, but Joe Biden is going to carry it through. So by

00:22:03.920 their own admission, they're running the most left-wing campaign, the most left-wing nominee,

00:22:08.880 not a radical by temperament, but certainly by policy, he is the most left-wing candidate the

00:22:14.340 Democratic Party has ever run. And I guess, I mean, there's been a lot of speculation about just how

00:22:20.200 with it Biden is, how attentive he is, how sharp he is. I suppose if he publicly says, well, I'm going to

00:22:26.360 have this suite of left-wing policies. And if he appoints a cabinet and a staff and a chief of

00:22:32.360 staff and a White House team that is in line with that, it doesn't matter if he's goofy and forgetful 0.58

00:22:38.520 and has seniors moments. Because if he says, yeah, this suite of left-wing policies that could have

00:22:43.940 been written by Ilhan Omar and Alexander Corsesio-Contez, other people will take that and run with it,

00:22:50.120 won't they? So is, I guess that's my second question, is his team as left-wing as his agenda?

00:22:56.540 Because, you know, they say for Democrats, run to the left, for the primary, run more to the center

00:23:01.120 in the election. I think, I think that's the way. You're saying that's not the way. He's going to,

00:23:06.620 he's staying to the left. That's correct. So in my book, Red November, first of all, I talk about

00:23:12.500 this issue of Joe Biden's mental capacity. He has declined. He never came to the spin room

00:23:19.240 in all of the debates that I attended, that anyone attended really, because I was at most of them. I

00:23:24.980 missed one or two, but he was never in the spin room, not once. And I speculated that might have

00:23:30.260 been because the spin room tends to happen very late at night. So it might have been simply too late

00:23:34.800 for Joe Biden. He also wanted to avoid committing gaffes. And he's always been gaffe prone his entire

00:23:39.560 career, but more so lately when he says things that simply don't make sense or that the campaign

00:23:44.860 has had to explain or undo later. So Julian Castro, one of his opponents, brought this up,

00:23:52.680 I believe it was in the Houston debate. And I talk about this in the book, that Joe Biden can't

00:23:57.520 remember what he said two minutes ago. That's what Castro said. And the audience murmured and booed a

00:24:04.140 little bit. But Cory Booker then in the spin room endorsed that claim. He said that Castro was

00:24:10.900 correct to bring up Joe Biden's mental faculties and his aging, and that it was a legitimate issue.

00:24:17.560 Now, of course, Cory Booker is talking about how wonderful Joe Biden is, and he's a light bringer,

00:24:22.660 I think is what he called him, or a light worker, which was something that was used also to describe

00:24:26.960 Obama. But of course, back in the fall of 2019, when Cory Booker was still in the race, he was worrying

00:24:31.620 about whether Joe Biden could do the job at all. So the vice presidential pick becomes very important.

00:24:38.760 The campaign has tried to portray Biden as bringing a team along with him. So you're not just voting

00:24:44.440 for this guy, you're voting for all of these people around him. And many of them are more left wing

00:24:50.000 than Biden has been. He brought Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez into his team of advisors, for example. He set up all

00:24:55.480 these policy councils. And she now, who complained about his climate policy, is advising him on climate.

00:25:00.880 It doesn't mean he's going to go all the way toward the Green New Deal as she has proposed it.

00:25:05.440 But he is certainly starting to embrace some of her ideas. He never talks about nuclear power,

00:25:09.820 and he's not going to. I think he may have mentioned it once earlier on, but that's not

00:25:13.240 happened since. He talks about getting rid of coal, as we said. And he said during the debates that

00:25:17.760 if working class Americans had to lose their jobs to satisfy the climate change agenda, well, 0.96

00:25:24.780 so be it. You know, we'll find them other jobs somehow. So that's the message he's selling.

00:25:29.200 He opposes the Keystone Pipeline, which, as you know, was a very important arrangement with Canada

00:25:35.760 and a Canadian company. Under the Obama administration, the Obama State Department

00:25:39.880 certified that there was no environmental risk from the pipeline. Obama simply blocked it because of the

00:25:45.760 left wing environmental lobby that didn't want to see fossil fuels developed at all. Never mind that

00:25:51.760 Canada was simply and logically going to sell the oil to someone else if they didn't send it down

00:25:56.840 through the United States. I mean, that oil is not going to sit there in the ground. Canadians

00:26:00.380 have to work as well. So the idea that this was going to be anything that had an impact on climate

00:26:06.640 change was ridiculous. It was always ridiculous. And Trump, in his first week in office, reversed that 0.96

00:26:12.560 and pushed ahead of the Keystone Pipeline. Joe Biden says he'll cancel it when he gets into office.

00:26:17.360 That's the influence of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. So these advisors really are steering him in that

00:26:22.800 direction. I've described the Biden presidency, if it ever were to happen, as a kind of regency.

00:26:28.720 You know, in the old history books, when a king or queen was too young to serve, you know, they

00:26:35.440 ascended to the throne at age four. They'd have some minder, some elder member of the family or the

00:26:41.180 church ruling effectively for them in a kind of regency. That's what would be happening with Biden.

00:26:47.000 He'd be too old to govern himself. And so the country would be essentially steered by a public

00:26:51.400 group by a committee. Let me not use Soviet terminology for everything, but it'd be steered 0.95

00:26:56.580 by a committee run by a combination of old Obama and Clinton hands on the one hand and young Bernie

00:27:03.920 Sanders socialists on the other. It would be a combination between the democratic establishment

00:27:10.300 staffers and the young upstart ideologues. And actually, the establishment staffers, some of them

00:27:15.840 are not so far away from the ideologues in terms of what they believe. They've just done things

00:27:19.300 differently. But that's who would be running the country.

00:27:22.300 We're talking with Joe Pollack, our old friend from Breitbart. His new book is called Red

00:27:26.140 November. Will the country vote red for Trump or red for socialism? Hey, I want to play for

00:27:31.540 you a quick clip. And I'm sure you've seen this clip. If not this particular one, many like

00:27:36.700 it. It's a Bernie Sanders supporter, very woke, very radical, very college activist. And

00:27:44.740 she sort of got this chant, please don't make me vote for Joe Biden. And I don't know why it's sort

00:27:49.600 of catchy. I've seen this a gazillion times. It's sort of pathetic, but also quite honest. Here,

00:27:56.660 take a quick look at that. Democrats, please don't make me vote for Joe Biden. Please don't make me vote

00:28:02.860 for Joe Biden. Please don't make me vote for Joe Biden. I don't want to vote for Joe Biden.

00:28:09.520 It's not very profound, but maybe it is. It's very simple. It's please, Democrats, don't make me

00:28:14.920 vote for Joe Biden. Like what she means, obviously, is I want to get rid of Trump. I don't like Trump.

00:28:20.240 I don't like the Republicans. But please don't make me vote for this guy. There's a lot of Bernie

00:28:25.860 supporters who twice now have been spurned. And even though, as you correctly say, Biden is more

00:28:31.620 left wing than any of his predecessors. He still feels like the man. He feels like what Bernie

00:28:37.820 Sanders was rebelling against. And I have trouble imagining that young woman. Please don't make me

00:28:43.800 vote for Joe Biden. Voting for Joe Biden. What's going to happen? You hung out with these people.

00:28:49.000 You saw you might have even met that young woman. What are they going to do? Are they going to fall

00:28:53.220 in the line and support Joe Biden? It's not clear. So there's a huge degree of unity among Democrats

00:29:00.180 when it comes to what's motivating them. Even the Sanders supporters are strongly motivated now

00:29:07.260 by the desire to get rid of Donald Trump. And I think it was easier for many not to vote for Hillary

00:29:15.040 Clinton because they assumed she would win anyway. And so that wasn't an issue. They prefer Hillary's 0.94

00:29:21.880 policies to Trump's policies, let's say. Although on trade, Trump has done better for Sanders supporters

00:29:28.500 than Hillary would have done. Trump canceled the Trans-Pacific Partnership in his first week in

00:29:33.060 office, for example. So I think it's hard to say. I don't think that Sanders supporters are excited

00:29:40.660 about voting for Biden. I would compare it roughly to how Tea Party supporters felt about Mitt Romney.

00:29:48.460 And nobody in the Tea Party really felt particularly close to Mitt Romney. He was a bad candidate because he

00:29:53.480 had embarked on this adventure called Romneycare in Massachusetts, which made him a very poor

00:29:59.960 candidate to oppose Obamacare. And the Tea Party was motivated by opposition to Obamacare, among other

00:30:05.860 things. Nevertheless, the Tea Party members held their nose and voted for Mitt Romney. Now, interestingly,

00:30:13.980 I saw a number after the 2012 election that suggested the Tea Party had voted disproportionately for Mitt Romney.

00:30:20.820 That is to say, there were more Tea Party Republicans who showed up for Mitt Romney than a typical

00:30:26.540 Republican. We may see more people on the left showing up for Joe Biden. Joe Biden's big problem

00:30:32.400 is that he's not motivating anybody. He's in his basement in Wilmington, Delaware. He is being

00:30:37.980 handled by a bunch of people who are just trying to keep the live streams going and get him from

00:30:43.040 wandering off camera. He doesn't control his own Twitter account. Some people say Trump shouldn't

00:30:47.980 control his own Twitter account. But with Trump, at least, you know, he's in charge. You know, he's

00:30:51.480 doing things, whether they're good or bad or controversial. He's doing things. Donald Trump

00:30:55.840 is managing the country. He's running his own campaign, essentially. And Joe Biden is not. I just

00:31:02.700 think that it's going to be difficult for Biden to motivate ordinary voters, never mind politically

00:31:07.740 engaged left wing activists. I think the left wing activists might be motivated to come to the polls

00:31:12.520 anyway. I think that ordinary Americans do not feel particularly motivated by Joe Biden.

00:31:19.020 You're seeing national opinion polls where he's winning by 11 percent over Donald Trump. That's

00:31:24.240 all very premature. We don't know what's going to happen when voters actually start comparing Trump

00:31:29.760 to Biden. Right now they're comparing Trump to the ideal. But Red November explains just how off the

00:31:37.700 rails the Democratic Party has been and has become. And people remember that after the first debate in

00:31:43.180 Miami, when every single candidate, including Joe Biden, raised their hands in answer to the question

00:31:48.400 who wants to provide free health care to illegal aliens. The headline in the New York Post the next

00:31:53.260 day with a picture of them all raising their hands was who wants to lose the election? And even the New

00:31:59.640 York Times had to admit that this was a completely different Democratic Party, that the candidates were

00:32:04.680 further left than Bill Clinton, than Barack Obama. This was something that had not been seen since

00:32:10.920 FDR and maybe ever. You know, I think you're right. I think actually that the kind of woman who would 0.92

00:32:18.860 say, please don't make me vote for Joe Biden, she's telegraphing, I am going to vote no matter what.

00:32:24.120 Just do me a favor and don't make me vote for Biden. Other people wouldn't say, please don't make me vote

00:32:28.600 because they just won't show up and vote. They won't get off their chairs to vote. This will be a very

00:32:33.540 interesting test because I think if your source of information about the Democrats and about politics

00:32:38.460 in general is Twitter, is CNN or MSNBC, maybe this radical left politics is normal because it's being

00:32:46.360 normalized by the media party. But will it work in Western Pennsylvania, fracking country? Will it

00:32:53.860 work in Wisconsin? Will it work in the steel parts of the country, Indiana, Ohio? I wonder. It's very

00:33:01.200 interesting. When does your book come out? Again, tell us when it'll be available. We can pre-order

00:33:05.860 now and we'll put a link under this video to the amazon.ca link for our Canadians. And I would, I

00:33:12.160 mean, there's no one I trust more on this election than you, Joel. And I know for a fact that you have

00:33:16.900 gone to every Democrat thing imaginable. That was what half the fun of interviewing you. So folks can

00:33:22.600 pre-order now and then as soon as it's ready, it'll be either shipped in hard copy or by ebook. Is that

00:33:27.900 right? Right. We're doing it in hard copy, audio book, and also in electronic book for Kindle.

00:33:35.240 It is a lot of fun. The first half of the book all takes place on the campaign trail

00:33:38.960 before impeachment, before coronavirus. It's almost nostalgic because you go back to an age

00:33:44.160 where politicians were still shaking hands and kissing babies. You know, that was before we had

00:33:48.440 to wear masks in public and all that. So campaigning was traditional and then suddenly it wasn't anymore.

00:33:53.520 And I go through the impeachment. I talk about that whole saga and how it kept the Democrats off

00:33:58.800 the campaign trail. They sabotaged their own election. The only people who were able to

00:34:02.760 campaign in Iowa were Joe Biden, Andrew Yang, and Pete Buttigieg. And the other 17 or whatever

00:34:07.940 were stuck in the Senate. And I talk about coronavirus and how it crept into the election

00:34:12.980 slowly. And really the only thing that was said by anybody, I can find two comments on coronavirus

00:34:18.480 in the early stages. One was an op-ed written by Joe Biden, where he was essentially taking apart

00:34:25.300 Donald Trump's general response to the pandemic, but he didn't really advocate for anything

00:34:31.640 substantial. I mean, Biden said that if he were president, he would have the CDC, our Centers for

00:34:37.680 Disease Control, over in China right away. Well, Trump had been trying to send the CDC to China. The

00:34:43.540 Chinese had refused. And Joe Biden has a very poor record on China. He's been very accommodating.

00:34:48.560 That's putting it nicely. The other comment was Pete Buttigieg vaguely mentioned it in a debate.

00:34:53.880 But the first time coronavirus really ever came up on the campaign trail was February 25th in the

00:35:00.160 presidential debate in South Carolina, the last of the four early primaries. It did not come up in

00:35:06.020 any serious way before that. And then all of a sudden it was upon us. And in a sense, Joe Biden got

00:35:12.880 lucky because had Donald Trump closed the country down earlier, the way Biden now says Trump should

00:35:17.920 have, Super Tuesday might never have happened. South Carolina might never have happened. Joe Biden

00:35:22.420 might never have had a chance to snatch the nomination away from Bernie Sanders, who had gone

00:35:27.840 one, two, three in the early primary states. No candidate before had ever won the popular vote in the first

00:35:33.920 three primary states. Bernie Sanders did it. He was coasting to the nomination until Joe Biden won South

00:35:39.620 Carolina and then a couple of days later won Super Tuesday. So it's quite a dramatic story. And you

00:35:45.820 see it become almost a thriller as the virus stalks the candidates toward the end. And I don't make any

00:35:53.800 predictions, but I say this choice that American voters face is really a stark one. You have a choice

00:36:01.260 on the one hand between the most conservative president we've probably ever had, with the possible

00:36:05.840 exceptions of Calvin Coolidge and Ronald Reagan. That's on the one hand. And on the other hand,

00:36:11.040 you have the most left wing candidate ever to run from either party. You know, he's essentially running

00:36:18.000 for the first term of Eugene Debs, never mind the third term of Barack Obama. Eugene Debs was the

00:36:23.320 socialist party nominee in the early 20th century. That's where we are right now. And Biden wouldn't

00:36:28.040 call himself a socialist and he attacked Bernie Sanders as a socialist. But the number of issues on

00:36:33.100 which Biden differs with Sanders is vanishingly small. And I think that's going to be a very

00:36:39.220 interesting choice to watch. Well, I have so much enjoyed our conversation and I'm very excited about

00:36:44.760 your new book. Folks, I recommend it based on our conversation today with Joel and our conversations

00:36:50.800 with him as he was traveling America writing it. It's called Red November. Will the country vote

00:36:57.960 red for Trump or red for socialism? You can see a cover of it on the screen right now.

00:37:03.100 And you can click the Amazon link below this video. Good luck out there, Joel. We'll talk

00:37:06.920 to you again. Thanks so much. All right. Thank you. Stay with us. More ahead on The Rebel.

00:37:20.140 Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about the trial of Huawei's CFO, Meng Wanzhou. Rob writes,

00:37:26.940 what a relief to see justice was upheld. Trudeau somehow didn't get his claws into this one

00:37:31.060 and buy off the judge. Thank you for enlightening us on Huawei's corruption.

00:37:34.880 Yeah, well, I think justice was done. I mean, it is possible that she is legally not to be

00:37:42.180 extradited. Like, even if she would have won, that isn't necessarily proof of corruption.

00:37:47.880 But the fact that she lost her dismissal is, I think, proof of the absence of corruption,

00:37:53.180 don't you think? Paul writes,

00:37:55.340 Well, that's the thing. The reason I read out that extended passage from the ruling about how

00:38:07.640 they met in some back room in a Hong Kong restaurant, I just love that touch, shows that

00:38:12.160 Huawei is operating just like the dictatorship that it is symbiotic with. So they were a great

00:38:21.220 success in China because they have no real problems. They just crush anything because

00:38:27.020 they're joined with the government. They're taking that same style, that same corporate culture and

00:38:32.440 exporting it around the world. And they're finding luck in corrupt parts of the world,

00:38:36.560 luck in extremely poor parts of the world that will take a payoff. But maybe in America and hopefully

00:38:42.800 in Canada, perhaps in Australia and the UK, maybe even in Germany, China's style of doing corrupt 1.00

00:38:49.440 business will be stopped. We'll find out in the months ahead, I think.

00:38:54.080 Revelation replies, or writes, Free press isn't just for journalists, it's for us citizens too.

00:38:59.560 I have a right to a free press. That's in reaction to Kim Bexley being ejected from Rideau 0.83

00:39:07.120 Cottage yesterday by RCMP at the direct instruction of the PMO. That's a great point. Freedom of the

00:39:13.200 press is not just for the press, it's for those of us who choose to read a press.

00:39:17.220 Dave writes, Enjoyed tonight's show as always, but what caught my attention was your hair! I think

00:39:23.080 you've taken several years off with a new look! Who says Wuhan's impact on the hair industry isn't 0.99

00:39:28.880 good for some of us? Skip the haircut when this is over. Well, I think you, maybe you need to check

00:39:36.260 your eyesight because I mean, I've just embraced the ugly. What are you going to do? I mean, I got bigger

00:39:42.620 problems than my hair, but I think you have very unusual taste, sir. That's the show for today.

00:39:48.760 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night,

00:39:52.800 and keep fighting for freedom.

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Rebel News Podcast - May 29, 2020

Twitter reveals plans to censor Trump in the upcoming election

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