Rebel News Podcast - Two new polls reveal what people really think of China

00:00:00.000 Hello, my Rebels. Today, I take you through two opinion polls, one in Canada, one in the

00:00:04.140 States, measuring support or lack thereof for China. They're two very interesting polls,

00:00:10.780 quirky questions in the Canadian one, basic questions in the American one. I feel smarter

00:00:15.620 for having read it, and hopefully you will too. You'll be able to drop these stats with

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00:00:29.460 the video version of the show where I will show you charts. Okay, here's the podcast.

00:00:48.980 Tonight, two new polls ask people what they think of China. Very interesting. It's May 21st,

00:00:55.100 and this is The Ezra Levant Show.

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00:01:11.200 right to do so.

00:01:17.300 I've got two new polls for you about China. The first is from a company called Research Co.

00:01:22.160 They're based in BC. I hadn't heard of Research Co before, but I had heard of their pollster,

00:01:27.860 Mario Canseco, and he's always struck me as a very smart and very honest guy, so I put a fair

00:01:33.760 bit of stock in this poll. There are some great pollsters in BC, including Angus Reid. As usual,

00:01:39.420 there are a ton of stats in a poll, so I'm only going to focus on a few questions that I think are

00:01:44.380 the most interesting. So you can see what they do is there's a list of statements that they read to

00:01:51.400 people, and then Canadians were asked, from what you have seen, read, or heard, do you agree or

00:01:58.320 disagree with each of the following statements? All right, I'm going to skip the first question,

00:02:02.780 and I'll come back to it later. So let's start with this one. The government of the People's Republic

00:02:08.060 of China should take responsibility for its role in the COVID-19 outbreak. So then people are asked

00:02:14.640 if they agree or disagree. Pretty straightforward and to the point, isn't it? And look at these

00:02:19.220 amazing answers. Strongly agree, 40%. Moderately agree, another 32%. So that's 72% who agree in some

00:02:29.100 way. That's overwhelming. Only 9% of Canadians moderately disagree, and only 9% strongly disagree.

00:02:35.440 In the next column, you can see that men are slightly more critical of China than women are.

00:02:42.100 Women are slightly less sure, but the numbers are pretty similar by sex. By age, there's a little

00:02:47.720 bit more of a difference. Let's compare millennials. 37% strongly agree. People my age, Gen X, it's 46%.

00:02:55.840 But again, it's overwhelming in every age group. And look by regions. British Columbians are likely to

00:03:02.400 strongly agree that China's to blame. 42%. That's one than any other region except the Atlantic. It's 0.87

00:03:09.320 interesting, because there's such a large Chinese-Canadian population in BC. I guess they know what China's 1.00

00:03:14.400 really like. Last point, by political persuasion. So how people voted in the previous election, conservatives

00:03:21.660 are the most hostile to China. 47%. Strongly agree. But liberals aren't that far behind. 42%.

00:03:29.620 Those are Canadians who say they strongly agree China's to blame. Add in the moderately agree 1.00

00:03:36.200 Canadians. Liberals are at 73%. Conservatives are at 81%. So again, both are very high. It's not

00:03:43.560 unanimous, though. But I challenge you to show me something else so overwhelming like this, so lopsided

00:03:48.820 like this in public opinion, other than the obvious and perhaps related question of restricting out-of-control

00:03:54.180 immigration, which is also in this 80% range. Now let me show you the next question on the poll,

00:04:00.760 which is a bit radical, a bit cheeky, probably a legal non-starter. But so what? It's a good

00:04:05.480 barometer for public opinion. And that's what we're doing here. From what you have seen, read or heard,

00:04:11.280 do you agree or disagree with each of the following statements? The government of Canada should consider

00:04:16.220 launching legal action against the People's Republic of China on account of the COVID-19 outbreak.

00:04:21.480 Like I said, we don't really sue countries. Countries have something called sovereign immunity,

00:04:27.800 but it's not unprecedented. And I think we can use suing countries as a proxy for other legal means

00:04:34.140 like sanctions or taking away certain trade privileges from treaties with China. So it's a bit

00:04:40.900 radical, but let's look anyways. 20% of Canadians are strongly for this. Another 11% are moderately for

00:04:48.640 it's a total of 31%. It's not a majority, but it's a sizable chunk. 22% are against it. 27% of

00:04:56.580 people are strongly against it. So 49% of people are against this. Not quite half, still more than

00:05:02.860 those who want to sue China. But the very question would have been unthinkable four months ago.

00:05:08.280 Don't you think? This shows that Canadians are open to radical solutions to deal with China, 0.98

00:05:12.720 even if this isn't the right solution. It's very interesting to me. The one group of Canadians

00:05:18.400 that's ready to rumble is not surprisingly conservatives. They're a total of 42% of

00:05:24.380 conservative voters strongly or moderately support the idea and 38% oppose it. Here's a quirky BC style

00:05:32.240 question that was thrown in. Do you agree that more people will consider adopting vegetarian or vegan

00:05:38.680 diets after the COVID-19 outbreak ends? Now, that's sort of confusing to me. I guess that implies that

00:05:45.260 bats were at the root of this or the wet markets where people in China go to buy and eat wild animals 0.99

00:05:53.140 and things like that. That's a Vancouver question asking about vegetarianism, isn't it? Not a lot of

00:05:57.440 people say yes to that, but funny enough, the highest numbers in Alberta and with conservatives.

00:06:03.200 Now, I said I'd come back to the first question and here it is. Do you agree or disagree with this?

00:06:07.820 It is acceptable to refer to COVID-19 as the Chinese virus or Chinese flu. Well, overwhelmingly people 1.00

00:06:16.100 said no. 53% of people are strongly against that and 22% more are moderately against that. NDPers are

00:06:23.040 the most adamant. Quebecers and conservatives have the highest support for using those words. I'm not

00:06:29.380 too surprised by this. First of all, most people just plain old say the virus or coronavirus or

00:06:35.540 COVID-19. So it has a name that's becoming commonplace. And I think Chinese virus is a 0.96

00:06:41.900 deliberate verbal weapon that was deployed by Donald Trump for political reasons only after

00:06:47.880 and in specific reaction to China. Incredibly, when they tried to blame the U.S. for the virus,

00:06:53.540 they were doing that. They were actually still doing that. And the thing with Trump is if you poke him,

00:06:57.900 oh, he's going to poke you back five times harder. Why do you keep calling this the Chinese virus?

00:07:03.560 There are reports of dozens of incidents of bias against Chinese Americans in this country.

00:07:09.620 Your own aide, Secretary Azar, says he does not use this term. He says ethnicity does not cause the

00:07:15.240 virus. Why do you keep using this? A lot of people say it's racist. It's not racist at all. No,

00:07:20.720 not at all. It comes from China. That's why. It comes from China. I want to be accurate.

00:07:26.780 So yeah, I don't even think Trump says China virus very often, just when he wants to poke at China.

00:07:33.640 I think there's also a shyness effect in this poll. People don't want to tell a pollster

00:07:37.420 an answer they think is politically incorrect or wrong. So those are Canadian numbers. But you heard

00:07:42.700 Gordon Chang on my show the other day. He said Pew Research had new U.S. numbers out too. And indeed,

00:07:48.200 they do. I didn't know that until Gordon said that on the show. And Pew are real pros. They tilt

00:07:53.440 liberal, yes. But I actually really trust their methodology. I think they put accuracy first.

00:07:59.160 They're very comprehensive. So let me just show you some details from the new Pew Research Info

00:08:04.260 just last month. It's probably worse because this is in late April. Let me read their headline.

00:08:11.260 U.S. views of China increasingly negative amid coronavirus outbreak. Republicans more negative

00:08:16.540 than Democrats towards China, though unfavorable ratings have climbed among both parties.

00:08:21.600 Okay. So let's go through it. It's so comprehensive, I'm only going to touch on some highlights. But if

00:08:26.300 you're curious, you can find it pretty quick on the internet. So this is the percent of people who say

00:08:30.900 they have a positive or negative view of China. Look at it during the Obama years. It really rose high.

00:08:37.140 When Trump took over, it started to fall. And this year, it just plunged.

00:08:40.480 66% of people are negative. 26% are positive. That's the virus. It's also trade wars. It's also

00:08:47.520 Huawei and 5G and hacking and spying and a Chinese aircraft carrier and human rights and Tibet and

00:08:54.360 Uyghurs. It's everything. This graph breaks it down by party. Red is Republican. Blue is by Democrats. 0.97

00:09:00.120 So yeah, Republicans are and always have been more skeptical of communists. But the Democrats seem to be

00:09:06.200 moving in lockstep a little bit lower, but they're moving the same trend. 62% of Dems are still anti-China.

00:09:11.880 That's a big deal. You could definitely call this a bipartisan issue. Here it is by age. Young people

00:09:18.700 are more China-friendly. Really, no one else is. And young people don't really vote. This one's 0.74

00:09:24.580 interesting. What is it about China that you think are problems? Very serious or somewhat serious? So

00:09:29.980 91% say that the environment, isn't that interesting, the number one issue, the environment. It's amazing

00:09:36.280 that people know that, though, because Greta Thunberg and the United Nations, they never criticize

00:09:41.240 China. That's a hopeful result, isn't it? We're not all fooled, unlike, say, Justin Trudeau.

00:09:48.100 There's a level of admiration I actually have for China, because their basic dictatorship is allowing

00:09:58.860 them to actually turn their economy around on a dime and say, we need to go green as fast as we 0.98

00:10:04.180 need to start, you know, investing in solar. Yeah, you have to be dumb as Trudeau to believe 0.99

00:10:08.980 China's good on the environment. Cyber attacks are in second place, followed by trade and jobs, 0.99

00:10:14.300 then China's military, then human rights. Isn't that all very interesting? Here's one more. This

00:10:20.260 is the question, who is the world's leading economic power? Blue is China, green is the U.S. Look at that.

00:10:28.900 Almost immediately after Obama became president, remember, he was elected in 2008, inaugurated in

00:10:34.000 January 2009, America said that China pulled ahead. But that started to change in the dying days of

00:10:41.500 Obama's administration. And then America has zoomed under Trump, according to Americans. Seriously,

00:10:47.300 in 2013, only 40% of Americans said America was number one, now 59% do. That is not an accident,

00:10:54.320 is it? And this chart shows that both Republicans and Democrats generally agree. Last question.

00:11:03.000 The first question is, is the world's, is the United States the world's leading military power?

00:11:07.900 83% say yes. 6% say China is. I don't even think that's a matter of opinion, at least for now.

00:11:14.180 Obviously, America has the superior army quantitatively and qualitatively. But the second

00:11:19.080 bar is this. Is it better for the world if the U.S. is the leading power, or if China would be?

00:11:27.280 Now, that's 91% to 4%. Couldn't be more lopsided. And you know what? I bet if you ask Canadians that

00:11:35.600 same question, they'd more or less answer the same way. Stay with us for more.

00:11:53.680 Peter, I just want to get one final thought from you. Are there words that are used to describe men

00:11:57.340 that offend you? Not particularly. And if there were some I don't like, I certainly wouldn't want

00:12:02.980 them banned. But it goes, you know, it always goes back to that old adage, sticks and stones may break

00:12:07.640 my bones, but there will always be something to offend a feminist. Peter Lloyd. No, that's just 1.00

00:12:12.920 obnoxious. You have to give me a chance to respond to that. That is ridiculous. That, no, hang on,

00:12:18.000 I won't do your show again if you don't let me respond to that. Go on, Kate, have a word. Come on,

00:12:21.160 that's ridiculous. You know what? I watch that at least once a month. It just puts a smile on my 0.99

00:12:26.980 face. And it's a reminder that the battle of the sexes has been going on forever. As, you know,

00:12:34.420 someone in a different, less politically correct generation would say, women, you can't live with 1.00

00:12:39.140 them. You can't live without them. It's been a challenge for every young man and young woman to

00:12:44.620 figure things out. In the past, they were called hopeless romantics, or in the 80s or 90s, maybe emo,

00:12:50.820 short for emotional. But now, young men and women who are having trouble finding a mate, they're

00:12:56.020 called incels, involuntary celibates. All right, fair enough. But now it seems that political

00:13:03.540 activists are trying to turn that into some sort of ideology, some sort of terror group. And in fact,

00:13:11.420 here in the city of Toronto, there has been terror charges laid against a 17-year-old man for murder

00:13:19.740 in a, quote, erotic massage parlor. He killed a 24-year-old woman, allegedly. Is that a crime of

00:13:28.040 passion? A hopeless person wrestling with his own demons? Or is it a terrorist act? Well, joining us

00:13:35.340 now is the man you saw in that clip. Peter Lloyd is his name. He's an author and journalist in the UK,

00:13:40.780 and he joins us now via Skype. Peter, it's great to see you. Thanks for coming on the show.

00:13:45.660 Great. Thanks for finally having me. This is my debut on Rebel, so it's great to be here.

00:13:49.800 Well, it's a pleasure. And I saw you were published in RT. You had a great column on the subject. And the

00:13:55.940 very fact that you were in RT, I want to remark on that because your point of view is considered,

00:14:03.120 I mean, you're, I would call you a, I don't know, a men's rights activist might be too much. I'll let

00:14:08.220 you describe yourself. But your point of view is generally pushed out of mainstream media in the

00:14:14.260 West. It doesn't surprise me that you have to go to a foreign outlet like RT to say the things you say.

00:14:20.380 Right. I mean, that is a telling sign of the state of journalism. I've worked for a number of

00:14:26.140 newspapers and magazines in my time. I'm nearly 40 now. And I've reached the point where I just no

00:14:32.640 longer want to try and fight to get column inches in a paper where my view isn't going to be kind of

00:14:38.180 respected or treated with, with any kind of reverence. So now I've gone to one of the outlets

00:14:43.120 that will give me the freedom to say what I believe is true and to let the audience decide for

00:14:48.000 themselves. That's one of the great things about RT, which allows people to do that.

00:14:52.380 It's so unusual that we have to go to foreign press to have the freedom to say things in our

00:14:58.340 own countries. Well, Peter, let me know what you think about this Toronto case. You're in the UK,

00:15:03.440 but it looks like you've done a lot of research into it. I mean, being a teenager is a phase. It's

00:15:10.620 hormones. It's figuring things out. It's how do I relate to women? Or am I gay? Or what's going on?

00:15:17.880 There's a lot of questions to turn that into some sort of terrorist ideology seems a bit of a stretch

00:15:23.520 to me. Yeah. And me too. I'm totally with you on that. I mean, my first reaction when I heard of

00:15:29.460 this case, if I'm honest, was to cringe. I thought, my God, just when you think Canada can't get any

00:15:35.140 more woke, it surprises you. I mean, obviously, look, this crime was terrible. It was a brutal homicide.

00:15:41.840 It was made worse by the fact that this woman was young. She was an innocent victim. And she was also

00:15:47.360 the mother to a young child. So it's terrible on all fronts. Nobody would disagree with that.

00:15:52.360 But it's clearly not terrorism. I mean, I've witnessed terrorism firsthand. I was 12 when the IRA

00:16:00.600 detonated bombs in my local town centre. I was on the London Underground when 7-7 happened. And about

00:16:08.120 two years ago, my niece was at the Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, where an Islamic extremist

00:16:13.860 detonated a bomb and killed more than 20 youngsters. So I know, to some degree, what terrorism looked

00:16:20.860 like and what it resembles. And this was not it. It wasn't nowhere near on the same scale.

00:16:26.600 9-11, as the Bataclan massacre, or any of those other atrocities which are performed crucially

00:16:32.340 with a political motive. As you said earlier, what happened in this case, it's clearly either

00:16:38.800 some kind of derangement or mental illness crossed with a crime of passion. I think it's really

00:16:45.040 important that we maintain the integrity of the word terrorism, because the West is going to experience

00:16:49.600 a lot more of it over the next few decades. And we need to be able to have a term that accurately

00:16:54.560 describes it and does those events justice. Yeah. You know, my theory for why they're trying to

00:17:03.280 rebrand a young emotional man's violence, sexual frustration as right wing, they're trying to

00:17:11.040 brand it as terrorism so they can have another cudgel to go after right wingers. I don't see anything

00:17:18.020 right wing or left wing about, in this case, a 17-year-old guy. Crime of passion, confusion.

00:17:25.380 I don't know if he was right wing or left wing. I think people of all political stripes and no

00:17:31.100 political stripes have curiosity and frustration and hope and sorrow and are figuring things out.

00:17:37.860 I think it's sort of a trick to try and say, we're going to brand all young, emotionally brooding

00:17:44.940 men as right wing to demonize all right wingers. That's my theory. 0.97

00:17:51.060 Yeah, I actually think it's, I think it's broader than just right wing men. It's just

00:17:55.320 young men in general, specifically young, white, straight men. I think that is really the target 0.97

00:18:00.560 group. I mean, if this charge of terrorism is successful in Canada, it will be the first time

00:18:06.460 that that code of criminal conduct has been used against someone who wasn't an Islamic extremist.

00:18:14.140 So I think it's two-pronged. I think really they want to try and find a new category to criminalize

00:18:20.280 straight, white, young men. And I also think they want to try and make terrorism look less connected

00:18:27.540 to Islam than it actually is. I mean, if we face reality, all of the major events that have been

00:18:32.300 terror related have all been connected to Islam. You know, that's a very good point. You're right. 1.00

00:18:37.620 It's not even right wing, left wing. It's just men. And as you say, I mean, we don't, I don't think

00:18:42.300 we know the identity of this 17 year old because he's, his identity is shielded. Although there was

00:18:48.260 another case of an incel attack in Toronto. It looked like a Muslim man of age 30. But I think 0.97

00:18:54.580 you're right. I think they're trying to de-Islamify the crime of terrorism. And they're trying to take a 0.74

00:19:01.340 swipe at all men at masculinity itself. I think they're trying to turn masculinity into a political

00:19:08.280 ideology and say, if you're too masculine, your toxic masculinity is a form of extremism.

00:19:15.180 I think that's where they're going here.

00:19:17.580 That's exactly what it is. And I view it as a form of kind of almost chemical castration. It's like

00:19:23.620 the social castration of a way. It's saying, well, you're, you're only allowed to be so masculine

00:19:28.020 and you're only allowed to have certain views about feminism and you're only allowed to have 1.00

00:19:32.260 certain views about certain women in your life. Uh, and if you, you violate those boundaries,

00:19:39.020 then we're going to define you as a terrorist. Meanwhile, women can say whatever they like 1.00

00:19:44.380 about men. They, women can attack their boyfriends and their husbands and they say whatever they like 1.00

00:19:49.240 on social media or in person. And they are beyond reproach. Nothing happens to them. So that alone

00:19:56.000 is proved that this is clearly driven by some gender agenda, as I would say. 1.00

00:20:01.620 Now I, I follow you because I think you're a very entertaining and articulate speaker. I get a kick

00:20:07.620 out of your video appearances and I just, I have a mouth like a sailor sometimes.

00:20:13.060 Well, that's half the reason I like you. No, I'm kidding around. You've, you're, you're. So when I saw

00:20:17.480 that you were talking about something Canadian, I thought, well, we got to get Peter Lloyd on. Um,

00:20:22.080 let me ask you, you're in the UK, which is a very politically correct place. I mean, in some ways

00:20:26.900 it's worse than Canada. Um, have you ever seen this kind of thing? I, I think you hinted at it

00:20:33.740 before that this is new. Have you seen this in the UK or in other jurisdictions? Uh, maybe, maybe in,

00:20:40.660 in Holland, maybe in France, uh, maybe in the European union. Is this new? Like is Canada on the

00:20:46.440 leading edge of this, this wokeness or is this coming from somewhere else? Uh, I think it's

00:20:53.700 maybe slightly ahead. I mean, you know, you've got Trudeau, so that's a, that's a pretty powerful

00:20:57.280 woke force you've got there. Um, but I know that here in, here in Britain, there have been

00:21:03.000 politicians who've been trying to make misogyny a hate crime, which is kind of a very similar 0.84

00:21:08.720 category to what we're talking about, what's happening in Canada. Um, they're literally trying

00:21:12.440 to make a dislike of feminism, a criminal offense, which is punishable by a custodial

00:21:18.540 sentence. I mean, it's all well in, you just wouldn't believe that this was a potential

00:21:23.600 reality. And what really scares me is that in my lifetime, I fully expect that it will

00:21:29.280 be women and feminists will be allowed to say whatever they want about men. They will 1.00

00:21:33.000 have complete free speech, but men will not have free speech and they will have their actions 0.98

00:21:38.000 ruled by legislation, which essentially castrates them. It will just, it will curtail their opinions

00:21:46.240 and their thought. It's like the thought police that all are used to, you know, wrote about

00:21:49.400 it. It really is. We are approaching that situation.

00:21:52.960 Let me ask you one more thing, because one thing I would say, you mentioned Islam and I

00:21:57.980 don't think that wokeness has affected Muslims, uh, at least not on mass, at least not those 0.80

00:22:06.720 who identify as Muslim, certainly not the ones that I have come into contact with in

00:22:11.160 the UK or Canada. It's typically a post modern, uh, Western post liberal, like it, it just feels

00:22:19.220 like it's the residue of the, a decaying Western liberal empire. Um, is there something about

00:22:25.500 the fact that Muslim men are confident, maybe physical, certainly not emasculated and the

00:22:33.120 Western man, uh, is not allowed to show any manly traits? How do those, I mean, obviously

00:22:40.940 we don't want certain manly traits. We want violence to be channeled and governed and, and,

00:22:46.140 uh, used only properly. I mean, there is, there, there are crimes that have an aggressive

00:22:52.300 masculine hue to them. Um, do you have any thoughts on that? Because this, I think you're

00:22:58.000 right that this is targeting meek male feminists who up talk and who are woke and who take women's 1.00

00:23:07.000 studies degrees. And I think there's something there. I don't know quite what it is. Have

00:23:11.060 you done any thinking on that? I mean, it's hard to analyze and kind of quantify those theories,

00:23:16.180 but I think you're definitely onto something. Men who exist within the religion of Islam and the

00:23:22.320 community of, of, of fellow Muslims, that society still respects men and masculinity, whether that

00:23:31.540 be as fathers or as sons or as, you know, people in the workforce or in the, in the masks or the faith,

00:23:37.840 men are still, are still respected and they are subjected to the same level of kind of misandry

00:23:44.600 and man hating that I think a lot of Western men are, uh, uh, Christian men, Jewish men. And I think

00:23:50.580 that is the crucial difference is because really the venom that we see in the press from a lot of

00:23:57.040 like feminist, uh, columnists and, you know, celebrities, most of, most of the venom is directed

00:24:03.680 at straight white men, which is what I was saying before. And, uh, that they are now the one demographic

00:24:10.740 that it's, that it's okay to kind of abuse. And this is what I was going to say as well is that

00:24:15.460 a lot of people are talking about the existence of these so-called incels, but really maybe we should

00:24:20.860 be asking why do these people exist in the first place? I mean, it's clearly some kind of mental

00:24:25.340 derangement, but what is driving people, young men to, to, to that level of despair, whether,

00:24:32.860 but they are feeling that level of hatred to women and they're acting out on it to the point where

00:24:36.980 they're, you know, they're killing somebody, they're committing homicide. Maybe we should be

00:24:40.940 asking ourselves that, you know, the question culturally, what is leading men down that path?

00:24:45.440 What is forcing them to feel so disenfranchised and so resentful of women that they would do those

00:24:51.500 things? I mean, I would suggest perhaps it's the level of man hating the media and society.

00:24:57.540 Maybe that has got a role to play. You know, that's a great question. If there was another

00:25:01.300 terrorism, there was another ideology that was manifesting itself in terrorist violence,

00:25:06.120 we would say, what are the root causes? What, where has society done wrong? Who pushed them

00:25:11.160 away? Could we have been more welcoming? Could we have a day of the year, a week of the year to

00:25:18.200 celebrate their masculinity, you know, to make, there would have been some way to include them in the

00:25:24.620 vibrant rainbow of society. But I think even the word incel is a disparaging way of saying a guy who's

00:25:33.980 having trouble, you know, with the opposite sex, it's loaded in a negative way from the outset. 1.00

00:25:40.800 Last word to you, Peter, it's been great to catch up with you. Do you think we're going to see more

00:25:45.560 of this? Do you think we'll see more personal crimes of passion rebranded as incel terrorism?

00:25:54.220 Yeah, I do. Unfortunately, I think so. I think, you know, this is a war that's being waged by 0.62

00:26:02.100 woke politicians on the left. And unfortunately, masculinity and men are the quarry. They are in 0.96

00:26:08.520 the crosshairs of the gun. And I think we're just going to see more and more of it. It could be scaled

00:26:15.560 back. Maybe we could try and avoid it. And we could limit these kind of instances. But I think we'd have

00:26:21.340 to have a bit of a cultural revolution where we start treating men and boys with a little bit more

00:26:25.800 common decency and not humiliating them and degrading them at every given opportunity.

00:26:30.780 All right. Well said. Well, Peter Lloyd, what a pleasure to catch up with you.

00:26:34.520 Great to see you. We hope to have you back on again.

00:26:37.120 Yeah, I'll buy you a pint next time you're in London, Ezra.

00:26:39.160 Hey, that sounds great. Hopefully that'll be soon. Well, there you have it. Peter Lloyd,

00:26:42.660 an author and journalist. And he goes by the nickname, the Suffraged Gentleman,

00:26:48.860 which I get a kick out of. And you should follow him on Twitter on the handle on your screen. Stay

00:26:54.740 with us. More ahead on The Rebel.

00:27:04.460 Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about temporary foreign workers. Guy writes,

00:27:08.860 there's a shortage of work. Canadians deserve these jobs. Yeah. And you know what? I'm just the

00:27:15.460 excuses that were in the Globe and Mail felt like reheated leftovers, like excuses that they've

00:27:21.240 been using when unemployment was 6% or 7%, not when unemployment was 15% or 20%. You know, it's time

00:27:29.360 to hire Canadians. We don't need to bring in foreign workers in the middle of a recession. That's just

00:27:33.860 crazy, especially deliberately underpaid foreign workers. Ian writes, there are plenty of Canadians who

00:27:41.740 are willing to do this work. I'm a veteran on a pension. And I would have no problem going out

00:27:45.120 and picking fruit and vegetables. You know, I think some people would like physical labor,

00:27:51.160 especially young people. I mean, when I was in college, it was a thing to go out and tree plant.

00:27:56.220 That's backbreaking work. You know, there's a lot of young, I bet you a youth unemployment, 0.99

00:28:02.020 because all the waiters and waitresses and bartenders and retail clerks, they're all hit the

00:28:07.500 hardest. I bet you, I mean, I haven't seen the youth unemployment stats yet, but I bet you it's

00:28:12.360 25%, 30%. Of course, some of them would like to work on a farm. On my interview with Jim Carahelios,

00:28:18.640 Harry writes, I'm thoroughly disgusted at what the conservatives and you did to Jim. I also find it

00:28:24.920 cringeworthy when you told Jim to his face that he could not win. With these kinds of actions, my opinion

00:28:29.460 of the conservatives and the rebel has changed. With your influence, do you realize how many people you

00:28:34.060 could have discouraged to vote for Jim and how Jim must have felt when you said that? I think you

00:28:38.060 need to apologize to Jim and your audience. Wow. Okay. You know what? I see your point. I guess I

00:28:46.400 should have kept that thought to myself, but you know what? I mean, I like Jim, if it's not obvious.

00:28:52.020 I like his issues. I like his style. But do I not owe you, the viewer, my candid thoughts?

00:28:58.780 I don't think Jim can win. I think he's a small, you know, army of one kind of thing. He doesn't

00:29:06.060 have a big network or a team that I can detect. Now, he says he has people working here and there,

00:29:11.400 and he did raise the third largest amount of money. So he is in that, you know, he's third out of five,

00:29:17.880 I suppose. I don't know. I mean, if my affection for Jim was not evident, let me clarify that I feel

00:29:24.940 affection for him. And I'm rooting for him. And that's what, my third or fourth interview with him

00:29:30.460 on this subject. But I suppose I could have been a little bit more polite in person, though I didn't

00:29:35.660 feel rude saying him. I just want to be honest to you, the viewer. I don't think Jim can win because

00:29:43.800 of how the rules are. I don't think they're going to let Jim win. And whoever wins, I don't see them

00:29:52.200 beating Trudeau. I'm sorry. That's just how I feel. Maybe I'm wrong. Hopefully I'm wrong.

00:29:56.820 Dave writes, I thought you guys may like the lawn sign I had made up. Enjoy. Take a look at that.

00:30:03.620 Ah, good for you. You know, I should get back in the lawn sign business. We had some fun lawn signs

00:30:08.240 ourselves in the day, didn't we? Well, folks, that's our show for today. Until next time,

00:30:12.260 on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night,

00:30:15.860 and keep fighting for freedom.

00:30:22.200 We'll be right back.

Rebel News Podcast - May 22, 2020

Two new polls reveal what people really think of China

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