Rebel News Podcast - Two Ontario MPPs say Chinese-Canadian Doctor's “Wuhan Pneumonia” Sign Spreads Asian Hate

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. A crazy case out of Ontario. A Chinese-Canadian doctor in the Chinese language 1.00

00:00:06.460 uses the phrase Wuhan pneumonia, and a Chinese critic says it's racist. But the doctor's Chinese,

00:00:14.340 and the message isn't in Chinese, and the patients are Chinese. Who would be behind causing such 0.99

00:00:20.020 strife? Well, I'll give you one guess. And yeah, it's the Chinese embassy. I'll give you the details

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00:00:59.260 Tonight, are Canadian politicians running errands for Beijing's dictatorship here in Canada?

00:01:10.520 It's April 29th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:01:13.260 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:19.100 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:23.180 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's

00:01:27.580 my bloody right to do so.

00:01:33.820 Oh, here's a crazy story for you. Let me show you the headline. 0.94

00:01:37.080 So just to be clear what's going on here, there is a doctor in Ontario who in Chinese, not even in

00:01:54.220 English, so he's speaking to fellow Chinese Canadians, refers to COVID-19 as the Wuhan

00:02:01.600 pneumonia, which is where it came from, and that is what it does to you.

00:02:07.080 And yet Canadian politicians are telling this doctor not to say that. Let me read a little

00:02:13.900 bit of this story. It's from the National Post. Two Toronto-based politicians are pressing a

00:02:20.020 Chinese-Canadian doctor to remove a sign on his office door in Chinese that refers to COVID-19

00:02:26.040 as the Wuhan pneumonia, complaining the wording could incite anti-Asian hatred. Let me stop you

00:02:32.100 right there. If the only people who can read it are Chinese speakers, odds are they are 1.00

00:02:38.920 ethnically Chinese. I mean, there are some Caucasian or non-Chinese people who speak Chinese,

00:02:44.680 but if you're in a Chinese neighborhood going to a Chinese doctor whose door has Chinese writing,

00:02:49.420 odds are you're Chinese too. What's the likelihood that that will whip you up into anti-Chinese fervor?

00:02:56.080 You're probably Chinese yourself, and you're going to a Chinese doctor by choice. Does this make any

00:03:01.380 sense? Here, I'll read a little more. The English part of the sign, which explained Dr. Kester-Kahn's

00:03:07.280 office protocol during the pandemic, referred only to COVID. So who complained? Was it a patient?

00:03:16.800 Get this. Vincent Key, a progressive conservative member of the provincial legislature with a history

00:03:23.860 of ties to the Chinese government, said Kong may have made an innocent mistake, but it doesn't matter

00:03:29.600 that the mention of Wuhan was in Chinese. So a politician came to stir up trouble, and this politician

00:03:37.180 calls himself a progressive conservative. Then again, these days, anyone does, don't they? I mean,

00:03:42.740 they even let Doug Ford and Aaron O'Toole call themselves conservatives. Let me read a bit more.

00:03:48.140 Key had earlier posted about the issue in an anti-racism forum on the China-based WeChat social

00:03:55.560 media site, saying that if the physician did not change the notice, he and fellow Tory MPP Aris Babikian

00:04:03.020 would hold a news conference to publicize the issue. So just to understand, WeChat is an amazing app,

00:04:10.940 but it's Chinese, and I don't mean ethnically Chinese or in the Chinese language. I mean,

00:04:16.120 it is rooted in China, and it carries with it the Chinese government's values. It's an amazing app.

00:04:22.640 It's like Facebook and Twitter and PayPal combined. It's an app that shows, though, that China is your 0.98

00:04:29.920 center, not Canada. In Canada, you can use Facebook in Chinese. You can use Twitter in Chinese. When you're

00:04:36.220 on WeChat, you're showing where your center of gravity is. Isn't it funny that this Canadian 1.00

00:04:42.060 conservative would make threats about embarrassing this doctor in a Chinese WeChat app? I found that

00:04:50.240 was very interesting. The National Post, to their credit, interviewed a pro-democracy critic of

00:04:57.140 Communist China, a Chinese man himself named Chuck Kwan. Here's what Chuck Kwan said.

00:05:01.240 This is the playbook of Chinese consulates in Canada. They are using this anti-Asian hate

00:05:09.220 to rally the troops, win the hearts and minds of Chinese Canadians. As in, this is a non-issue.

00:05:18.500 But these two MPPs, both of whom disgracefully seem to set their North Star by China, they're trying

00:05:27.100 to whip this up, not because there's a real problem, but to alienate Chinese Canadians from 0.74

00:05:32.380 Canada. It's sort of like a Black Lives Matter stoking division, except for this has been 0.90

00:05:38.340 coordinated by the Chinese embassies and consulates. I'll read just a little more.

00:05:43.980 Key and Babikian have repeatedly attended Confederation of Toronto Chinese Canadian organizations

00:05:52.620 and related events alongside China's Toronto Consul General, including the celebrations in 2018 and

00:06:00.660 19 of the 69th and 70th anniversary of the founding of People's Republic of China.

00:06:07.260 So that's a pro-dictatorship lobby group. They were celebrating not the Chinese culture, language, food,

00:06:16.280 history, heritage. It's all wonderful things. They were celebrating the communist regime at an event

00:06:22.640 next to the Chinese diplomats here. How on earth is that even abided here? There's a lot going on here,

00:06:32.580 Chinese meddling in our politics with the approval and passive support, I suppose, of the Conservative 0.98

00:06:39.520 Party and the government, but also the fake whipping up of divisions amongst people in our society. It

00:06:46.820 reminds me of the official approach taken by Theresa Tam and Justin Trudeau and others at the outset of

00:06:54.960 the virus. You know, there were very early critics of the government who said, you've got to stop those

00:07:02.640 flights from China. You've got to stop people flying here from Wuhan and other places and just going into

00:07:09.160 schools. There was a petition made to the school board in the York regional district to have some

00:07:15.900 sort of limits. And maybe if someone was coming right over from Wuhan that maybe they wear a mask or

00:07:20.420 maybe don't go into class. And funny enough, those are the rules now a year later. But when that alarm

00:07:26.080 was raised in a very modest way, it was called racist then too. Except for then, as in now, the people

00:07:35.060 behind the petition were Chinese-Canadian families worried about what they had learned about the

00:07:41.580 virus and Canada having its guard down. There's a lot of craziness here. Wokeism, taking offense where

00:07:49.340 there is none, whipping up divisions between different races, stoking things for some headlines.

00:07:56.440 I think the darkest part is this is being coordinated by the Chinese embassy and no one seems to care.

00:08:01.920 Kudos on the National Post for even writing the story. I think this is only going to continue

00:08:07.720 until we start to treat the Chinese embassy and its actions in Canada the same way we did during the

00:08:14.140 Cold War towards the Soviet bloc embassies. Stay with us. More ahead. 0.98

00:08:31.920 Statements by members. The Honourable Member for Hastings, Lennox Addington.

00:08:35.720 Madam Speaker, lockdowns with no end in sight are being endorsed by federal leaders and are destroying

00:08:41.960 our communities. The impact on Canadians' lives is severe. Ordinary people are being investigated by

00:08:47.620 police for organizing peaceful protests against the lockdowns. Last week, I heard from a young

00:08:52.900 business owner in my riding. She told me if things don't change soon, she will likely have to declare

00:08:57.920 bankruptcy. The Liberal budget will be of no help to her. Others have confided to me that their

00:09:02.900 children have had to be medicated to reduce suicidal thoughts. Tragically, the budget fails

00:09:07.720 to address the surging youth mental health tsunami we are witnessing. Canadians look to their leaders

00:09:12.760 for help, but instead their concerns appear to be falling on deaf ears. We can look south of the border

00:09:17.960 to see many U.S. states have reopened and are better from an economic, social, and mental health

00:09:23.000 perspective. It's time to recognize that quarantining to healthy helps no one and to end these draconian

00:09:28.940 lockdowns once and for all. There you have it. Derek Sloan, independent MP, was elected as a

00:09:35.000 conservative but was made to walk the plank in a bizarre moment by Erin O'Toole, who I note has fallen 0.88

00:09:43.780 far down in the polls. The latest Ipsos polls. We'll have to do a story about that another day.

00:09:47.720 Just shockingly low. 17 points back in Ontario, Erin O'Toole. Third place in Quebec and BC. I think

00:09:56.120 part of it is his embrace of the carbon tax and part of it is his cancel culture approach to MPs like

00:10:02.780 Derek Sloan, who joins us now via Skype. Derek, great to see you again.

00:10:07.540 Glad to be here. Thanks.

00:10:08.820 You know, I sometimes wonder, I look at the United States, there's 50 different states.

00:10:13.240 There's, of course, a very lively Congress. And there's a range of opinions on the lockdowns.

00:10:20.180 You have states like Texas, South Dakota, Florida that are very hands-free. Here's an image of

00:10:25.480 the big UFC fight in Florida. Just a packed stadium. I don't see any masks there. You got that approach.

00:10:32.920 And then you have your more lockdown states. But even California and New York are not as locked down

00:10:37.860 as long as Canada. North of the border, no official party, either in government or opposition,

00:10:45.020 is against lockdowns. You got lockdowns in conservative Alberta, Manitoba, Ontario, the

00:10:53.120 federal opposition. Why is it that only independents like you and Randy Hillier, and I think I've just

00:11:00.300 gone through the whole list now, are the only guys on the other side of this debate?

00:11:08.020 Well, it basically comes down to just sheer cowardice. And you're right. We don't have to

00:11:15.400 be the first, you know, province or country to open up. We have examples close to us that are

00:11:21.300 faring well. The data is coming out. You know, we just had, we'll talk about this later, but I just

00:11:26.800 was reviewing the results of an 80, a study that looked at 80 different studies by a Canadian

00:11:33.760 professor. And he said that lockdowns are 282 times as harmful as their benefits. The data is out.

00:11:41.660 It's a lack of courage, and frankly, cowardice on behalf of Canadian politicians.

00:11:47.520 You know, a lot of people criticized Ron DeSantis, that's the governor of Florida,

00:11:51.440 when he was one of the first to say, we're going to loosen up. And there was a moment there,

00:11:57.360 I didn't know if he could lean into the wind, but he did. And he actually led other people to join him.

00:12:03.580 So it wasn't just that he put his finger in the air, saw which way the wind was going. He made

00:12:08.700 the wind go in a certain direction, just by relentlessly saying things like you just said that,

00:12:15.300 like, he's a real master of the facts, more than most TV pundits or reporters are. I got to think

00:12:21.620 that someone who had a reasonable, not radical, but just a thoughtful, common sense approach to

00:12:29.060 lifting the lockdowns, I got to think not only would they do well, like Ron DeSantis is,

00:12:34.360 but they would create sort of a new voter coalition. It wouldn't just be traditional conservative

00:12:39.940 voters. It would be people, people who are just apolitical. They don't think left wing,

00:12:45.080 right wing, they're just sick of this. And you'd probably have, you know, working class people who 1.00

00:12:50.180 have been locked out of their jobs, mom and pop business. I'm just saying, you say people are

00:12:54.860 afraid, I get it. But isn't there a big payoff for the, for the leaders who take a chance on this?

00:13:02.340 Well, I think there is. And, you know, I think that there's, there's two different groups of people

00:13:06.820 in this country. There's sort of the media party people, like the media elites and those that pay

00:13:12.880 attention to them. And then there's average Canadians. And I think, unfortunately, too many 0.99

00:13:17.760 political parties base their activities on whatever the CBC or the Globe and Mail has said,

00:13:24.060 but they're really missing out on where the average person is. And more and more people are

00:13:28.580 becoming disenfranchised. I mean, I saw a poll that says six out of 10 Canadians don't like any

00:13:33.260 federal political party. There is an opportunity for, for a party or for a movement to capture

00:13:40.480 that position. And I think you're totally right. Now, you're not just speaking, you know, in a

00:13:48.460 figurative, sorry, in an abstract manner. I understand that recently you attended a church

00:13:57.400 in Aylmer, Ontario, and that the police chief has announced that he intends to, to prosecute

00:14:06.280 you, to give you a summons. Can you tell us what happened? What did you allegedly do? And what are

00:14:15.040 you going to do about this summons? Well, I haven't been served with anything. I have read, as you have

00:14:22.900 in the news, that apparently I seem to be one of several people that are being charged under the

00:14:29.460 Reopening Ontario Act. So I, I intend, whatever I do get charged with, and again, this is, you know,

00:14:36.340 a provincial offense. It's not a criminal charge. I intend to fight it. I know many people who have

00:14:41.580 received tickets. The government is not, they're too afraid to fight these in court. They're, you know,

00:14:47.460 throwing them down, they're, they're kicking the ball down the road because they don't want to

00:14:50.800 actually have to go toe to toe with a real argument that addresses the, the charter or, or other

00:14:56.120 arguments. So, um, they, they would rather just be able to give, you know, they would rather the fear

00:15:01.380 factor be there. They don't want one case to be able to knock down their ability to keep the entire 0.68

00:15:06.560 province under lock and key. Um, I, uh, so I was at the church service in Elmer. Uh, man, it was, I'll,

00:15:14.060 I'll tell you, Ezra, um, you know, I've been to church before many times, but I have never, uh,

00:15:19.940 been to this church, but, you know, to be, to be in that church with people who are,

00:15:23.720 you know, doing what they think to be right. Uh, you know, the police were outside and everything.

00:15:27.640 I have never seen a more positive and exciting service and it's available online. They stream

00:15:33.080 it live. Wow. What a powerful sermon by, uh, by some very humble people that live there in Elmer.

00:15:39.060 And, uh, I was, I was proud to be there. You know, that's exactly how I felt when I went to the

00:15:44.360 Grace Life Church just outside Edmonton. And I'm not even Christian by the way, but I went there

00:15:49.400 and I was just washed over by a feeling of normal. I just thought, geez, I forgot what it was like

00:15:55.340 in the before times. And, uh, if I was in Edmonton, I would be going every week. I'll tell you that.

00:16:00.400 Uh, let me ask you a few technical questions. Grace Life Church, uh, before they were expropriated

00:16:06.880 and turned into a police garrison, took a very strong line against police, police coming onto the

00:16:12.680 property or into the church during services. They simply said to police,

00:16:16.800 you cannot interrupt our church service. And they knew that section 176.2 of the criminal code

00:16:23.260 forbids anyone from disturbing, uh, a religious service. And so in the end, actually police raided

00:16:31.620 it on a weekday at 6 a.m., I think, to avoid breaking that law. Can you tell me what was it

00:16:38.100 like in Elmer? Do they let the cops on the property? Do they let the cops in the building? Because sometimes

00:16:44.000 churches know their rights and sometimes they sort of get walked over.

00:16:49.860 So the, the, at Elmer, they kind of have security at the road that, that, uh, that lets cars in or

00:16:56.740 doesn't let other cars in. Uh, I don't know if the police tried to get in or not, but they basically

00:17:01.660 just stayed out at the road. And, uh, I, I don't know if they were surveilling the scene or what they

00:17:07.280 were doing, but they, uh, I don't know if they tried to enter, uh, but I didn't see them doing so.

00:17:12.560 Well, then how would they know that you were there? I mean, I guess you could have mentioned

00:17:17.060 it or tweeted about it, but how would they know what you would have done? How would they know

00:17:21.600 enough to, to charge you? And of course I'm a former lawyer myself. I know that the standard

00:17:27.400 for these men, I think, I don't know what charge you'll get, but it's typically beyond a reasonable

00:17:32.860 doubt or it's a high standard. It's not like civil court where it's like balance of probabilities,

00:17:38.520 50, 50 kind of thing. If they didn't, if they weren't in the church, how do they know what

00:17:43.660 you did? How do they know where you stood? How do they know anything? I think this goes

00:17:48.600 to your theory that maybe the whole thing is just a shock and awe to try and scare people.

00:17:53.440 Like if they didn't actually see you do what you allegedly did, how could they send you a

00:17:58.480 ticket?

00:17:58.760 Well, the, uh, the service was live streamed and myself and another politician, Randy Hillier,

00:18:06.460 uh, were invited up to the front along with the two, two others. So there is a picture floating

00:18:11.900 around of me being at the front of that service. Uh, CBC picked it up. So I'm assuming that's where

00:18:17.980 they're getting their info from, but I'm not sure.

00:18:20.100 Yeah. And you know what, come to think of it, that's probably right. If you mentioned it was live

00:18:22.620 streamed. Well, let me say one more thing, because you mentioned that you think that the authorities

00:18:26.960 are going to kick the can down the road to avoid having a hearing on this. That's our

00:18:31.100 experience. As you may know, we have a project called fight the fines.com. We've crowdfunded

00:18:36.560 lawyers for almost a thousand people. And I don't think we've had a single trial, but I've just

00:18:43.860 asked our team for a count. I think we're up to 20 wins without even a trial because the

00:18:50.100 prosecutors look at the case and say, I'm not, I'm not running with this. And no one wants

00:18:55.920 to be that test case because everyone says, well, these are likely unconstitutional.

00:19:01.260 The size of them probably renders them unconstitutional too, like a $1,500 ticket.

00:19:07.020 Um, the enforcement of them, if it's a church involved or other. So we, we represent close

00:19:13.420 to 1000 people, but they will not let us have our day in court. Cause I think that I, I mean,

00:19:20.520 I don't want to raise expectations or hopes, but there's a chance all 1000 people we represent

00:19:26.080 will just be let to go free. Cause this whole thing was either to scare people off or just

00:19:32.080 to see who's so afraid they'll pay the ticket just to get out of a pickle.

00:19:36.580 Yeah, I, I agree with you. And you know, if they wanted to, if they really did think they

00:19:40.820 were in the right and wanted to send a message, then why not dig in? I mean, but as you say,

00:19:46.560 I have yet to meet someone who has disputed a ticket that has actually gotten their day

00:19:51.180 in court. Yeah. Well, it's very interesting. Um, I, uh, I want to thank you for coming on

00:19:57.400 the show. We, we played the clip of you in parliament. I'm glad you're still making

00:20:00.820 representations as an MP. I know your website is Derek Sloan dot CA. And, uh, last time we

00:20:07.520 spoke, I asked you if you were any clearer on your public plans. And I know that if you have

00:20:13.580 a plan, you'll want to announce it in your own way. But, uh, can you tell me if your thinking

00:20:18.900 has clarified yet on what you plan to do, given that you've been, uh, ousted from Aaron O'Toole's

00:20:25.560 party? Well, I don't have anything further to report. I would recommend that people, uh, sign

00:20:31.700 up for my email on my website. Uh, that will probably be the first place that I start to,

00:20:37.560 uh, make clear my plans. Uh, but I'd be happy to come on again, uh, uh, when, uh, when those plans

00:20:43.960 have, uh, crystallized and, and hash them out with you. Yeah. Well, make sure you do. I, I mean,

00:20:48.520 I, I enjoyed having you come on the show when you were running for the leadership. I, I said to our

00:20:53.120 viewers, and I think, you know, this, that I felt like you, uh, promoted true conservative ideas and

00:20:59.220 you were respectful of the populist nature of conservatives in Canada. I think you were sort of

00:21:03.900 a fan favorite and, uh, we were outraged at the injustice and the clear false, the false pretext

00:21:12.080 with which you were given the heave ho by Aaron O'Toole, who I think is turning into a disastrous

00:21:17.160 leader. So I think I speak for many of our viewers when I say we very much look forward to seeing what

00:21:23.520 you do next and whether it's in the elected political arena or in some sort of NGO or action

00:21:29.240 group. Um, you clearly are showing some courage on this pandemic issue. I look forward to you

00:21:35.120 letting us know when you're ready to make that announcement. And I hope you'll come on our show,

00:21:39.320 maybe even in a live stream to talk about it, because, uh, I tell you, it can't come soon enough.

00:21:44.880 As I mentioned that America has its fighters, but in Canada, they're very few in numbers. So,

00:21:49.860 so please do call us when you're ready for that. Absolutely. Thank you.

00:21:53.920 All right. There you have it. His name is Derek Sloan is the MP for Hastings, Lennox and Addington.

00:21:59.920 And you can go to his website and get on his email list at DerekSloan.ca. Stay with us more ahead.

00:22:08.560 Hey, welcome back to my show last night. Loretta writes, the manner in which Trudeau speaks that Ezra

00:22:24.740 was trying to describe, I refer to as his phony thespian voice. You're so right. He sort of looks 1.00

00:22:31.120 in the camera and he over enunciates. I did not do that. And you can trust me. I almost always add

00:22:42.060 ladies because I, you know, that's how he talks and things. Paul writes, there was a similar case

00:22:47.240 here in Ottawa a little while ago, pre COVID when the mayor banned some of his critics might want to

00:22:52.680 check the precedent set on that. I know that lawsuit. We read that lawsuit before we filed our lawsuit.

00:23:00.520 That's what you're talking about, suing a government official who bans people from following them on

00:23:04.920 Twitter. Look, I just think it's a really bad thing for government officials to start to treat

00:23:10.560 the instruments of the state as personal weapons of war. I mean, I do not care and I am not interested

00:23:16.860 in the personal Twitter feeds or Facebook feeds of politicians. I just don't care. But official

00:23:23.380 government offices with the official government broadcast banning me, that's outrageous. And I think

00:23:29.260 it's, it violates my rights in a number of ways. We'll see what the courts say. All right, my friends,

00:23:33.760 thanks for joining us today until tomorrow. On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:23:38.300 to you at home, good night and keep fighting for freedom.

00:23:40.880 Thank you.

00:23:54.420 Thank you.

00:23:55.960 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - April 30, 2021

Two Ontario MPPs say Chinese-Canadian Doctor's “Wuhan Pneumonia” Sign Spreads Asian Hate

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