Rebel News Podcast - UK police are now visiting people at their homes — for writing mean tweets. Is Canada next？

00:00:00.000 Hey there, you've got to listen to today's podcast, and it sounds like you already are.

00:00:03.620 I talk about a crazy case in the United Kingdom where a mom, a church lady, who goes on Good 0.93

00:00:10.860 Morning Britain, which is a big TV show over there, to have a debate about transgenderism,

00:00:15.660 whatever, she makes a tweet where she calls someone a boy instead of a girl, and she doesn't

00:00:21.300 even remember it.

00:00:22.380 But the police show up and say, yeah, you've got to come in for an interview now under

00:00:28.020 legal caution because we think you have committed a hate crime by saying boy instead of girl

00:00:34.520 on Twitter.

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00:01:41.440 You're listening to a Rebel Media Podcast.

00:01:43.760 Tonight, police in the United Kingdom are now visiting people at their homes for writing

00:01:49.940 mean tweets.

00:01:51.560 It's March 21st, and this is the Ezra LeVance Show.

00:01:54.380 Last week, I told you how when I was in the United Kingdom reporting on a trial involving Tommy

00:02:20.240 Robinson, the judge in that case stopped the hearing, cleared out the public from the

00:02:25.880 court, and demanded to see the journalism licenses from the reporters still in the room.

00:02:31.300 That was shocking to me.

00:02:32.220 First of all, that to this judge, journalists had some sort of higher moral or legal standing

00:02:37.580 to be allowed to stay in the courtroom than mere citizens.

00:02:41.100 And by the way, that same judge wouldn't let in the public.

00:02:43.800 Even though there were literally 23 empty chairs in the court, the judge kept most of

00:02:48.980 the public out, saying she didn't want the room to be over full.

00:02:53.420 Keeping citizens out of the courtroom just because, and then clearing out any remaining

00:02:58.080 citizens, and then demanding that those of us who identify as reporters, to use the modern

00:03:03.220 phrase, demanding that we show our journalism licenses.

00:03:06.580 And the worst part of this was that the journalists in the room who did, in fact, have licenses, that's

00:03:11.280 not something we do here in Canada or the United States, of course, the journalists so proudly

00:03:15.080 whipping out their licenses that they were actually carrying on them, like in their wallet,

00:03:20.620 and holding them up so proudly as proof that they were part of the fancy class.

00:03:24.980 They were part of the elite.

00:03:26.300 They weren't just the regular rabble. 1.00

00:03:28.320 And sure, that meant they had to submit to some sort of licensing.

00:03:32.040 But if that's what it took to show that they were a high class, not the ordinary Joe,

00:03:36.760 well, they would do it.

00:03:37.540 They really are classist over there in the UK, but more troubling to me, they really have

00:03:41.840 forgotten about freedom and the notion that the government serves the people and not the

00:03:46.160 other way around.

00:03:46.940 A judge is a part of the government, by the way.

00:03:50.060 So I told you all about that last week and how the judge specifically lectured me to tell

00:03:54.900 me that if I didn't stop tweeting my opinions about the trial, even from outside the courthouse,

00:03:59.780 I could be held in contempt of court.

00:04:01.520 Seriously, she said that if I expressed any opinion about things, I could be held in contempt.

00:04:06.020 I asked her if there was a particular tweet that bothered her.

00:04:09.300 And I swear to God, she mentioned this one where I made a joke about how I'd be thrown

00:04:15.300 in a dungeon for tweeting.

00:04:17.880 So I guess it wasn't a joke.

00:04:19.800 I wrote it as a joke, but it wasn't a joke because if I kept joking about being thrown in

00:04:24.740 a dungeon, I really would be thrown in a dungeon or a jail.

00:04:29.580 So I suppose she was right.

00:04:30.980 It wasn't a joke after all.

00:04:32.440 It was a promise.

00:04:34.000 Imagine being jailed for tweeting.

00:04:37.640 That's what they do in places like Turkey or Venezuela and the UK now too, I guess.

00:04:42.780 That's the UK.

00:04:43.720 It will shock you to learn that Tommy Robinson lost that trial.

00:04:47.360 But I got another story for you from the UK and to my Canadian and American friends who

00:04:51.660 might be sick of hearing about the UK or about Tommy Robinson.

00:04:55.380 My point is this.

00:04:56.260 How far away do you think this is from coming to our side of the Atlantic?

00:05:00.600 Thought crimes and word crimes.

00:05:02.980 We already have UK style censorship in social media.

00:05:06.100 After all, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, PayPal.

00:05:09.040 These are all the companies that have deplatformed Tommy Robinson.

00:05:12.400 They're all American companies based in San Francisco, Silicon Valley.

00:05:16.920 So of course, that part of the war on free thought is already here.

00:05:19.480 In fact, it came from North America.

00:05:22.400 But what about the police part?

00:05:24.360 The courts part?

00:05:26.160 Well, let me tell you a story.

00:05:27.320 And let me start by showing you a cell phone video taken by someone who was mouthing off

00:05:33.380 on Twitter or Facebook a bit about Brexit.

00:05:36.520 Just to remind you what Brexit is, back in 2016, the United Kingdom had a national referendum

00:05:41.720 on whether or not the UK should leave the mini United Nations called the European Union

00:05:46.680 or the EU.

00:05:47.280 Now, the EU is much worse than the UN for a number of reasons, including that it can actually

00:05:52.100 write laws.

00:05:53.580 And those laws are binding on its member countries.

00:05:55.960 The UN can't do that.

00:05:57.280 The EU does.

00:05:58.320 Anyways, more and more power and sovereignty was being moved from the UK and from its elected

00:06:04.000 MPs towards some unaccountable, anonymous bureaucrats in Brussels, Belgium.

00:06:09.460 I think my favorite EU moment when the light went on for me was this one.

00:06:13.880 It's a little video featuring Nigel Farage, the former leader of the UKIP party, the UK

00:06:19.480 independence party.

00:06:20.340 I love this clip.

00:06:21.760 This is from back in 2010.

00:06:23.740 Can you watch this for 90 seconds?

00:06:25.280 Take a look.

00:06:25.700 You have the charisma of a damp rag and the appearance of a low-grade bank clerk.

00:06:31.020 And the question that I want to ask, the question that I want to ask, that we're all going to

00:06:36.540 ask, is who are you?

00:06:38.800 I'd never heard of you.

00:06:40.720 Nobody in Europe had ever heard of you.

00:06:42.880 I would like to ask you, President, who voted for you?

00:06:48.760 And what mechanism?

00:06:50.660 Oh, I know democracy is not popular with you lot.

00:06:54.120 And what mechanism do the peoples of Europe have to remove you?

00:06:58.740 Is this European democracy?

00:07:01.080 Well, I sense, though, that you're competent and capable and dangerous.

00:07:07.060 And I have no doubt that it's your intention to be the quiet assassin of European democracy

00:07:12.520 and of the European nation-states.

00:07:15.040 You appear to have a loathing for the very concept of the existence of nation-states.

00:07:20.740 Perhaps that's because you come from Belgium, which, of course, is pretty much a non-country. 0.99

00:07:25.740 But since you took over, we've seen Greece reduced to nothing more than a protectorate.

00:07:34.780 Sir, you have no legitimacy in this job at all.

00:07:38.320 And I can say with confidence that I can speak on behalf of the majority of the British people

00:07:43.340 in saying, we don't know you, we don't want you, and the sooner you're put out to grass, the better.

00:07:50.360 I love that clip so much.

00:07:52.480 And he was right.

00:07:53.580 And that was in 2010.

00:07:55.300 Now, by 2016, that guy, Nigel Farage, and his UKIP party had convinced enough Brits of his case

00:08:01.780 that in the largest voter turnout in U.K. history, the Brexit referendum passed.

00:08:07.360 Brits wanted out.

00:08:10.300 But that was two and a half years ago.

00:08:12.060 And the establishment has been trying to undermine that vote result ever since,

00:08:15.540 trying to have a do-over, trying to bog down the Brexit with delays and conditions and negotiations.

00:08:21.760 It's supposed to happen next week, actually.

00:08:24.240 March 29th.

00:08:25.740 But so many establishment forces are colluding to delay or even frustrate the will of voters.

00:08:31.200 They really are trying to steal the election.

00:08:33.520 We'll see if they can get away with it.

00:08:34.740 Can you imagine what that would do to faith in democracy?

00:08:39.140 It would destroy it.

00:08:40.200 I truly believe there would be violence in the streets.

00:08:44.120 I don't want that, of course.

00:08:45.860 I hate the thought of that, of course.

00:08:47.120 But imagine if we had an election here and there was a clear winner, but a bunch of bankers and lawyers and journalists just refused to recognize the result.

00:08:58.480 I dare say we'd have violence on this side of the pond, too.

00:09:02.060 Anyways, some Brit was musing about that possibility on Twitter.

00:09:05.960 And the police just showed up at his house.

00:09:10.900 Now I'm going to play for you a two-minute tape of their interaction as captured on the bloke's cell phone.

00:09:17.620 Take a look.

00:09:18.040 So who's sent you here, then?

00:09:21.000 As you said, it's freedom of speech.

00:09:22.960 Right.

00:09:23.180 It's more about the content of what you've put.

00:09:24.880 So what have you got a problem with?

00:09:27.400 Some comment that you've said you're going to drag somebody out of an office, an MP, you're going to drag it out of an office onto the street.

00:09:32.240 Based on a hypothetical situation.

00:09:34.340 Yeah, but all I'm asking, I'm not saying you can't use it, or you shouldn't be using it.

00:09:38.700 I'm just asking you to be mindful about what you're putting on there.

00:09:41.400 All right.

00:09:42.020 In case it's deemed as inciting.

00:09:43.740 Yeah, let's put the situation into context, right?

00:09:47.760 So based on something that may or may not happen, an action could be taken, right?

00:09:54.220 So how can you have a problem with that?

00:09:56.760 I'm not saying we've got a problem with it.

00:09:58.900 I've been asking you to be aware, okay, that your comments are visible online.

00:10:04.560 Oh, I know that.

00:10:05.360 I've been doing it for, what, 20 years?

00:10:07.540 Yeah.

00:10:08.540 And you've got to be right to do that.

00:10:10.000 I've not got an issue with it.

00:10:10.360 So why are you here, then?

00:10:11.700 Because I've just explained that to you.

00:10:12.920 You haven't.

00:10:13.280 Yeah, it's the fact of what you've said, and then you've said, I can't do this alone.

00:10:17.140 Yeah.

00:10:17.360 Who wants to join me?

00:10:18.680 Right.

00:10:19.320 So it can be seen as sort of inciting something to happen.

00:10:22.140 Inciting what?

00:10:23.880 Inciting something based on an outcome that hasn't yet even been visualised.

00:10:29.340 No one knows whether it's going to happen or not.

00:10:31.700 But it's still inciting.

00:10:32.720 If the government betrays the people, do you really think that I'm going to be the only one?

00:10:37.740 How do you know?

00:10:39.000 We're not going to get into the debate or arguments.

00:10:40.120 Well, this is what I'm getting into.

00:10:42.000 This is what I'm getting into.

00:10:43.280 Because we need to get into it.

00:10:45.100 Because if you think about it, if Brexit is denied, right, there's not just going to be isolated pockets of violence.

00:10:52.220 The whole country is going to be inflamed.

00:10:54.940 You're talking 17.4 million people.

00:10:57.220 Yeah.

00:10:57.680 Do you think I'm going to be the only one?

00:10:58.800 Well, you've got your own comments and thoughts about it, haven't you?

00:11:01.280 That's fair enough.

00:11:02.100 I think a lot of people have.

00:11:03.980 Yeah.

00:11:04.460 And we've got the right to express it.

00:11:06.180 Yeah, of course you have.

00:11:07.060 I agree.

00:11:07.380 And you don't seem to get that.

00:11:09.580 No, I do.

00:11:10.280 Who sent you?

00:11:11.940 It's come from my inspector.

00:11:13.100 And the inspector is being ordered.

00:11:16.780 Is he taking it upon himself?

00:11:18.580 Who sent me?

00:11:19.520 Well, no, it's not.

00:11:20.220 It's not.

00:11:20.600 It's not.

00:11:20.960 Because you're coming around to my house, knocking on my door, asking me, you know, I should be careful and mindful of the comments I make online.

00:11:30.620 But they're perfect within the law.

00:11:33.260 Right.

00:11:34.200 Oh, yeah.

00:11:34.880 But I've not seen you broke for, have I?

00:11:36.620 Otherwise, I would have been dealing with it a different way.

00:11:38.780 Now, let me say this.

00:11:39.580 If someone positively calls for violence in a real and credible and imminent way, if someone is saying, I want someone to attack an MP, I think it's fair.

00:11:50.380 I mean, like, really urgently.

00:11:52.460 Like, let's go and attack an MP right now.

00:11:56.060 I think it's fair for police to stop by.

00:11:57.920 I haven't seen his exact post there.

00:12:02.940 But what this bloke seems to have been saying, based on that conversation, was, if the government betrays the people, if the government refuses to accept the democratic result of the referendum, there ought to be an uprising.

00:12:17.800 I think he's sort of right.

00:12:20.500 And if the people believe, sorry, if the police believe he has threatened someone, then arrest him and charge him.

00:12:26.600 Like I said, I haven't read what he actually tweeted.

00:12:30.480 If he's genuinely calling for people to be violent, to support a terrorist group, whether it's ISIS or the IRA, I don't care, then arrest him.

00:12:39.120 Charge him with something.

00:12:40.600 I don't have the original comment in front of me that he made.

00:12:42.700 I just found that video on the Internet.

00:12:44.360 But police said several times there in that interaction that it did not rise to that level.

00:12:50.720 There was nothing imminent or urgent or threatening.

00:12:55.280 That he was within the law.

00:12:56.740 The police said that.

00:12:57.640 They said that what he had tweeted or Facebook was not illegal.

00:13:01.740 I think they said that three times, in fact.

00:13:03.580 They claimed they weren't there to debate him, and yet they weren't there to arrest him.

00:13:11.520 Then why were they there?

00:13:14.420 Well, it's obvious.

00:13:15.320 To scare him.

00:13:15.940 To deter him.

00:13:16.720 To let him know he's being spied on.

00:13:18.340 To get into his head.

00:13:19.380 To take his courage away.

00:13:20.680 To put in the back of his mind that he might be arrested next time.

00:13:24.420 He might be charged with a crime next time.

00:13:26.660 There's an epidemic of real crime in the United Kingdom, by the way.

00:13:30.500 Knife attacks, acid attacks, rape gangs that entrap and exploit British girls as young as 11.

00:13:37.280 And, of course, there are the 23,000 Muslim jihadis that the UK government is trying to track

00:13:44.180 as in potential terrorists.

00:13:46.180 Now, apparently they have time to send two cops around to talk to a guy about his mean Brexit tweets.

00:13:53.000 But that's not all.

00:13:54.520 Look at this.

00:13:54.960 Now, I'm going to play you another clip.

00:13:55.960 This is from Good Morning Britain.

00:13:58.300 It's just what it sounds like.

00:13:59.620 It's like Good Morning America.

00:14:00.880 It's hosted by Piers Morgan.

00:14:02.680 Let me play a moment from their latest for you.

00:14:07.480 Because I am standing here this morning outside of police headquarters

00:14:10.540 because one of our guests on the show later on Twitter,

00:14:14.620 who has a boy who was a son who was born a boy, then transitioned to a girl,

00:14:20.560 they were referred to the wrong pronoun as a he or a boy.

00:14:24.060 That was a debate on Twitter.

00:14:25.580 As a result of that, Susie Green said that she found this actually distressing and spiteful,

00:14:31.240 made a complaint to Surrey police, who now tell us that they are actually investigating as a hate crime.

00:14:36.900 Hate crime have a maximum prison sentence of anything up to two years.

00:14:40.560 Really?

00:14:43.080 So calling a boy who says he's a girl, a boy, is a hate crime.

00:14:51.920 Mis-gendering someone is a hate crime that can get you two years in prison.

00:15:00.280 I can call you whatever I like.

00:15:05.080 I can call you a boy or a girl or a Martian or a turtle.

00:15:08.960 I can call you whatever I like.

00:15:10.760 I'm just using words.

00:15:12.140 And you can say the same to me.

00:15:13.820 And we can also ignore each other if we don't like each other.

00:15:16.260 If I truly defame you, I guess you could sue me.

00:15:18.840 But a hate crime that the police are involved with for calling a natural-born boy a boy,

00:15:24.220 and the police are truly following it up, here's some more.

00:15:29.340 We're conflating.

00:15:30.060 No, we're not. 1.00

00:15:30.720 A sexual predator. 0.91

00:15:31.760 It's a row that was first sparked in our studios.

00:15:35.060 Caroline Farrow, a Catholic with conservative views,

00:15:38.220 appeared alongside transgender activist Susie Green,

00:15:41.680 whose daughter Jackie was born a boy.

00:15:44.400 When the cameras stopped rolling, though, the debate soon spilled onto Twitter.

00:15:48.740 I know this from my own experience.

00:15:51.060 That's fine, but trans girls are girls. 1.00

00:15:52.740 Caroline Farrow allegedly used the wrong pronoun to describe Jackie Green,

00:15:58.060 referring to her perhaps as a boy.

00:16:00.660 And that, she's been told, is a possible hate crime,

00:16:04.100 and now, sorry, police are carrying out an investigation.

00:16:07.500 But in a statement, Caroline Farrow said,

00:16:09.980 she's put my family through hell,

00:16:12.000 and I don't think she should have pursued it in the first place.

00:16:15.300 We understand that Susie Green now intends to withdraw her complaint,

00:16:19.420 but at the moment, the official investigation continues.

00:16:22.740 I'm not sure if they said Surrey police or sorry police,

00:16:27.740 but I think it's probably a bit of both.

00:16:30.680 I'd like to read to you how I learned about this police investigation

00:16:35.620 from the woman herself who's being investigated by police.

00:16:38.560 You saw her on the screen there.

00:16:40.040 Now, there are 900 hate speech police

00:16:44.300 in the Metropolitan Police Force of London alone.

00:16:48.000 Nine hundred hate speech cops.

00:16:52.020 Here, let me read from the Twitter account of the woman they're chasing.

00:16:55.600 Had a message from Guildford Police tonight about my tweets

00:16:59.700 following an appearance on Good Morning Britain

00:17:01.500 with Susie Green and Piers Morgan.

00:17:03.200 Susie Green has reported me for misgendering her daughter,

00:17:06.700 so she's not making the mistake of saying son anymore.

00:17:09.600 I've pointed out to the police

00:17:10.860 that I am a Catholic journalist commentator,

00:17:13.680 and it is my religious belief

00:17:14.940 that a person cannot change sex,

00:17:17.760 that we are in the middle of a national conversation

00:17:19.600 about what it means to be male

00:17:20.860 and what it means to be female.

00:17:23.520 Of course, it's true you can't change your sex. 0.98

00:17:25.120 You could talk about how you present and your gender,

00:17:28.040 but you cannot change your sex. 0.69

00:17:29.140 That's in your DNA.

00:17:30.480 I'll keep reading.

00:17:31.360 Nonetheless, following my appearance on national television,

00:17:35.080 the CPS, that's the Cram Prosecution Service,

00:17:38.400 have decided I need to be interviewed under caution

00:17:40.800 for misgendering Susie Green's child.

00:17:45.080 So that's the prosecutor.

00:17:46.100 They're serious about this.

00:17:47.540 They're serious about this.

00:17:49.600 They're saying that they're really investigating this woman

00:17:53.800 for a crime.

00:17:55.120 A crime.

00:17:56.460 Because she called a boy a boy.

00:17:58.780 Oops, I'm sorry.

00:17:59.740 Nah, I've just committed that same crime.

00:18:02.860 Here's another tweet.

00:18:05.080 I don't even remember the tweets in question.

00:18:07.720 I don't remember said tweets.

00:18:09.140 I probably said he or son or something.

00:18:13.060 Oh, and if I don't go for an interview

00:18:14.340 about some tweets that allegedly misgendered,

00:18:16.640 I will apparently be arrested, which is nice.

00:18:18.660 Hey, can I ask you a question?

00:18:22.440 If you were working in this store,

00:18:24.920 I'm going to show you a store in a second,

00:18:26.240 and this person came in.

00:18:27.960 You'll see him in a second.

00:18:29.140 Would you call them ma'am or sir?

00:18:32.200 Excuse me, sir.

00:18:33.060 There's a young man in here.

00:18:34.980 Excuse me, it's ma'am.

00:18:36.860 It is ma'am.

00:18:38.100 I can call the police if you'd like me to.

00:18:39.700 You need to settle down.

00:18:40.700 You need to settle down.

00:18:41.740 Mind your business.

00:18:42.620 Okay?

00:18:43.700 Ma'am.

00:18:44.340 Once again, ma'am.

00:18:45.560 I said both of you.

00:18:46.880 No, you said sir.

00:18:48.200 Once again, it's ma'am.

00:18:49.500 I actually said both of you guys.

00:18:51.040 It was the general.

00:18:51.540 Right beforehand, you said sir.

00:18:53.860 Sir?

00:18:54.320 Okay.

00:18:56.120 Take it outside.

00:18:57.220 If you want to call me sir again,

00:18:58.480 I will show you a sir.

00:19:00.180 I apologize. 0.99

00:19:00.760 Motherf***er. 0.99

00:19:01.540 I apologize now. 0.99

00:19:06.520 I need your corporate number

00:19:08.020 because I'm going to call them

00:19:09.740 and talk about how I was misgendered

00:19:11.140 several times in this store.

00:19:12.540 I apologize for that.

00:19:13.480 I need your corporate number now.

00:19:15.560 I need it before you feel like

00:19:17.400 it's not a problem.

00:19:17.920 Get it for me now.

00:19:19.480 I'm going to ask you to calm down

00:19:20.780 and stop cussing.

00:19:21.780 I'm sorry.

00:19:22.520 Give me your corporate number.

00:19:24.000 Well, I'm going to ask you

00:19:24.860 for the fifth time

00:19:25.760 to stop calling me a man

00:19:27.100 because quite clearly I am not.

00:19:28.980 Yeah, that's not a ma'am 0.99

00:19:30.600 or a sir. 1.00

00:19:32.200 That's something who's mentally ill, 1.00

00:19:35.140 I think. 1.00

00:19:35.880 A bully for sure. 0.91

00:19:38.180 But this nice Catholic lady 1.00

00:19:39.860 in London said

00:19:41.020 boy instead of girl

00:19:42.200 or something.

00:19:42.960 She can't even remember doing it.

00:19:44.440 And she's being brought in

00:19:46.460 for a police interrogation.

00:19:49.880 Speaking of LGBT,

00:19:53.020 that's the T part, the trans.

00:19:54.940 How's that going in the UK these days?

00:19:57.700 I told you the other day

00:19:58.780 about a 98% Muslim school in Birmingham

00:20:00.820 where the parents

00:20:02.540 and the students

00:20:03.720 protested against a textbook

00:20:06.840 called No Outsiders

00:20:08.440 that was written

00:20:10.300 by a teacher at the school.

00:20:12.700 That book No Outsiders

00:20:13.740 taught about homosexuality 0.54

00:20:17.020 saying that they shouldn't be outsiders.

00:20:20.160 Here's a clip

00:20:21.200 from one of the protests

00:20:22.600 at the school.

00:20:24.360 But we need to make

00:20:25.620 one thing very clear.

00:20:27.700 This program

00:20:28.960 it's not just about

00:20:31.540 telling people

00:20:32.400 that other families

00:20:33.360 and other types

00:20:34.220 of lifestyles exist.

00:20:36.080 It's actually

00:20:36.920 aggressively

00:20:37.900 promoting them,

00:20:40.080 giving it a positive spin

00:20:41.960 and telling people

00:20:43.600 that it is okay

00:20:45.440 for you to be Muslim 1.00

00:20:47.060 and for you to be gay. 1.00

00:20:48.500 Mr. Moffat 1.00

00:20:49.960 Shame, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame.

00:20:58.080 Mr. Moffat

00:20:59.000 I did not want to make

00:21:00.120 this personal

00:21:00.780 but Mr. Moffat

00:21:01.880 has decided

00:21:03.040 upon his own self

00:21:04.760 to reinterpret

00:21:05.880 our religious scriptures

00:21:07.640 and I don't know

00:21:09.240 I don't know

00:21:10.260 where he gets

00:21:12.140 his religious education

00:21:13.440 from

00:21:13.820 and when

00:21:14.220 he became

00:21:15.100 Mufti Moffat.

00:21:18.500 So how did that

00:21:20.180 whole thing end up?

00:21:22.880 They were actually 0.86

00:21:23.840 mocking the gay teacher 0.98

00:21:25.340 in the school. 0.99

00:21:26.860 The kids

00:21:27.340 and the parents.

00:21:28.880 The school

00:21:29.300 what did they do?

00:21:31.480 Did they call the cops?

00:21:33.440 Like someone did

00:21:34.480 against that Brexit guy?

00:21:36.020 Did they call the cops?

00:21:37.660 Like that trans activist 0.96

00:21:39.160 did against the

00:21:40.120 Catholic church lady? 0.98

00:21:41.980 Are you kidding?

00:21:43.580 What do you want

00:21:44.000 to be blown up

00:21:44.600 or something?

00:21:46.320 They immediately caved.

00:21:47.680 They submitted.

00:21:49.040 That's actually

00:21:49.400 what Islam means

00:21:50.340 to submit.

00:21:52.420 They no longer

00:21:53.060 teach about homosexuality

00:21:54.420 at all

00:21:55.040 in that Birmingham school

00:21:57.140 or in other schools

00:21:58.100 in fact in Birmingham.

00:21:59.820 At least not

00:22:00.540 in the Muslim schools.

00:22:02.260 I'm sure they're still

00:22:03.180 pushing that book hard

00:22:04.660 on the Catholic schools.

00:22:07.260 Sounds like Canada 0.91

00:22:08.280 about ten minutes

00:22:10.260 from now.

00:22:11.780 Doesn't it?

00:22:13.900 Stay with us for more.

00:22:17.680 Welcome back.

00:22:29.920 Well there is so much

00:22:30.620 going on in the world

00:22:31.680 but in my home province

00:22:34.200 of my birth, Alberta

00:22:35.400 it is now the day three

00:22:37.420 of the provincial election.

00:22:39.580 A 28 day campaign.

00:22:41.600 Joining us now

00:22:42.220 to give us the latest

00:22:43.140 is our friend

00:22:43.760 Lauren Gunter

00:22:44.360 senior columnist

00:22:45.300 with the Edmonton Sun.

00:22:46.420 Lauren, great to see you again.

00:22:48.920 We care about Alberta

00:22:50.640 for a lot of reasons.

00:22:51.980 I'm sort of an exiled

00:22:53.380 Albertan in Toronto now

00:22:55.140 but I think even

00:22:55.980 Torontonians can care

00:22:57.260 because Alberta

00:22:58.200 is such an important

00:22:59.020 economic part

00:23:00.360 of this country.

00:23:01.360 I think it's

00:23:02.160 an ideological bellwether.

00:23:04.720 Before you get

00:23:05.980 into the details

00:23:07.080 can you tell people

00:23:08.880 in BC,

00:23:10.120 in Ontario,

00:23:11.420 even our American viewers

00:23:12.600 why they should care

00:23:13.600 about an Alberta

00:23:14.320 provincial election?

00:23:16.400 Well, you know,

00:23:17.520 as goes Alberta

00:23:19.120 so goes the rest

00:23:19.820 of the country's economy.

00:23:22.400 You know,

00:23:22.680 whether or not

00:23:24.320 people like

00:23:25.280 oil and natural gas

00:23:27.440 it's still

00:23:28.000 Canada's largest export

00:23:29.440 in terms of value.

00:23:31.100 And when the

00:23:32.400 Alberta economy

00:23:33.780 is depressed

00:23:34.240 because oil is depressed

00:23:35.600 then

00:23:36.660 the whole country suffers.

00:23:38.700 You know,

00:23:39.360 there was

00:23:39.620 numbers out

00:23:41.520 from StatsCan

00:23:42.240 for the fourth quarter

00:23:43.440 of 2018

00:23:44.120 showed that there was

00:23:45.180 virtually no economic

00:23:47.080 growth in Canada

00:23:48.360 for three full months.

00:23:51.440 And that was

00:23:52.660 largely due to the fact

00:23:54.000 that Alberta

00:23:55.380 has rolled back

00:23:56.280 the amount of oil

00:23:57.060 that it's allowing

00:23:58.120 producers to

00:23:59.180 take out of the ground

00:24:00.920 and there's just

00:24:02.880 not as much

00:24:03.420 being shipped

00:24:04.020 to world markets

00:24:05.820 or to the United States

00:24:06.760 as there should be.

00:24:07.420 And so it's huge.

00:24:09.500 I mean,

00:24:09.720 90% of the pipe

00:24:11.760 that goes into pipelines

00:24:13.060 is milled in Ontario.

00:24:15.760 Most of the buses

00:24:16.820 that take oil sands

00:24:18.660 workers from the city

00:24:19.840 of Fort McMurray

00:24:20.480 up to the oil sands

00:24:21.520 camps are built in Quebec.

00:24:23.260 It goes all the way

00:24:24.040 across the country.

00:24:24.940 And the large percentage

00:24:26.540 of the workforce

00:24:27.640 in Fort McMurray

00:24:29.640 comes from other provinces,

00:24:31.140 not just from Alberta.

00:24:32.160 So it's enormous

00:24:34.420 the impact

00:24:35.620 that Alberta has

00:24:36.740 on the rest

00:24:37.620 of the country.

00:24:38.160 So it's very important

00:24:39.260 that the right government

00:24:40.820 get elected in Alberta

00:24:41.980 to help boost

00:24:43.300 our economy

00:24:44.020 which then has

00:24:44.820 this enormous

00:24:45.400 ripple effect

00:24:46.580 for the rest of Canada.

00:24:48.200 Yeah.

00:24:48.480 And you didn't even mention

00:24:49.700 the tax revenues

00:24:50.600 and the equalization

00:24:51.700 payments.

00:24:52.620 But yeah,

00:24:52.940 I know what you're talking about,

00:24:54.320 those Prevost buses,

00:24:55.620 those huge buses,

00:24:57.160 they're all made in Quebec.

00:24:58.140 And you know,

00:24:58.700 we were going to talk

00:24:59.400 about SNC-Lavalin.

00:25:01.000 Whatever else you can say

00:25:02.140 about SNC-Lavalin,

00:25:03.040 a ton of engineering

00:25:05.220 and construction projects

00:25:07.060 in Canada

00:25:07.600 are oil sands related.

00:25:09.220 That's very technical production.

00:25:11.500 Like you can't just slap up

00:25:13.120 an oil sands facility.

00:25:14.740 It's a deeply engineered thing.

00:25:17.020 So it's,

00:25:17.320 I mean,

00:25:17.640 I know that's old ground

00:25:19.000 for most of my views.

00:25:19.520 Even conventional oil drilling

00:25:20.780 is far more

00:25:22.220 than most people think it is.

00:25:23.480 You know,

00:25:23.640 they think you stick

00:25:24.540 a drill bit down

00:25:25.560 into the ground

00:25:26.160 until you hit oil

00:25:26.940 and then you somehow

00:25:28.700 collect that

00:25:29.480 and somehow get it

00:25:30.520 to market.

00:25:31.080 And so it's an enormously

00:25:32.600 complex industry

00:25:34.380 from figuring out

00:25:36.380 who owns each layer

00:25:38.480 of the earth

00:25:40.320 below the surface

00:25:41.420 and whose properties

00:25:43.360 on top

00:25:44.100 and how do you get,

00:25:46.120 you know,

00:25:46.400 I was amazed one time

00:25:47.660 to take a tour of it,

00:25:48.700 what's called a tank farm. 0.79

00:25:49.580 So you see those enormous

00:25:50.600 oil and gas tanks

00:25:52.440 near refineries.

00:25:53.680 I took a tour

00:25:54.500 of a tank farm one time

00:25:55.600 and they said,

00:25:56.360 so what happens is

00:25:57.600 you have this tank

00:25:58.740 will have three

00:25:59.280 or four different

00:26:00.080 solutions,

00:26:01.480 fluids in it

00:26:02.580 and there will,

00:26:04.260 as they get ready

00:26:04.940 to put it in a pipeline,

00:26:06.240 they'll move

00:26:06.660 the second one

00:26:07.920 down to the bottom

00:26:08.820 and it goes into a pipeline

00:26:10.300 and then there's a machine

00:26:11.400 in the pipeline

00:26:12.160 that cleans the pipeline

00:26:13.480 for that fluid

00:26:14.940 which might be very different

00:26:15.900 from the one

00:26:16.360 that was ahead of it

00:26:17.000 and the one

00:26:17.300 that was behind it

00:26:18.200 and all of that's engineered.

00:26:20.580 There are 8,000 processes

00:26:22.980 for instance

00:26:23.660 at a typical refinery.

00:26:25.620 I mean,

00:26:25.760 it's a very,

00:26:26.600 very complicated business

00:26:27.960 and so yes,

00:26:29.680 it requires lawyers,

00:26:31.040 accountants,

00:26:31.600 engineers,

00:26:32.460 technologists,

00:26:33.220 all sorts of computer people

00:26:34.860 of all sorts

00:26:36.160 and so it's not just

00:26:37.600 a bunch of guys

00:26:38.360 in overalls

00:26:39.740 and pickup trucks

00:26:40.620 who go out

00:26:41.460 and stick the drill bit

00:26:42.560 down the hole.

00:26:43.300 Yeah,

00:26:43.760 you know,

00:26:44.300 perhaps the most high-tech thing

00:26:45.560 I've ever seen

00:26:46.140 was when I was allowed

00:26:46.900 on a fracking job

00:26:48.340 in Pennsylvania actually.

00:26:50.120 It was all computer driven

00:26:51.680 by the way.

00:26:52.420 I mean,

00:26:52.560 yeah,

00:26:52.720 there's guys

00:26:53.320 putting the big steel

00:26:54.600 in the ground

00:26:55.020 but it was very high-tech.

00:26:56.400 Anyways,

00:26:56.820 I appreciate that backgrounder.

00:26:58.720 Thank you for that

00:26:59.400 and I know 95%

00:27:00.820 of our viewers

00:27:01.300 know that stuff

00:27:02.100 but it's good

00:27:02.560 to remind people

00:27:03.520 of this is important

00:27:05.600 far beyond

00:27:06.260 the borders of Alberta.

00:27:07.020 Okay,

00:27:07.560 that preamble

00:27:08.380 out of the way,

00:27:08.900 Lorne,

00:27:09.420 give me the latest.

00:27:10.740 I know you've been

00:27:11.220 writing about this

00:27:12.120 for the past few days.

00:27:13.600 Give me the numbers

00:27:14.660 despite the ethical questions

00:27:17.520 about the dark horse

00:27:18.440 candidate

00:27:18.860 and secret deals.

00:27:20.960 Is Jason Kenney

00:27:21.940 still on track

00:27:22.560 to win this thing?

00:27:23.240 Yes,

00:27:24.800 yes he is

00:27:25.360 and I don't know

00:27:27.020 if the polling

00:27:29.500 has changed much.

00:27:30.360 There's only been

00:27:30.820 one poll

00:27:31.420 since this dark horse

00:27:33.140 kamikaze controversy

00:27:34.740 began involving Kenny

00:27:36.740 and that shows,

00:27:38.780 that poll showed

00:27:39.800 not a wit of change.

00:27:43.440 The UCP were still

00:27:44.700 more than 20 points ahead

00:27:46.080 but for me,

00:27:48.220 it's not necessarily

00:27:49.000 the poll.

00:27:49.860 If you look at

00:27:50.980 different regions

00:27:51.800 of the province,

00:27:52.440 I simply do not see

00:27:54.160 how the NDP

00:27:55.780 can possibly win.

00:27:56.960 The NDP

00:27:58.080 won last time

00:27:59.560 because among

00:28:00.680 other things,

00:28:02.160 they won 15

00:28:03.180 of 24 seats

00:28:04.060 in Calgary.

00:28:05.120 Now that has never

00:28:06.020 happened before.

00:28:06.700 The most they'd ever

00:28:07.460 had in Calgary

00:28:08.120 before was one

00:28:09.340 and there were

00:28:11.340 sometimes as many

00:28:12.300 as two or three

00:28:13.360 liberals as well

00:28:14.380 but it had always

00:28:15.840 been a Tory bedrock.

00:28:17.680 Last time

00:28:18.400 because a lot of voters

00:28:19.800 want to get rid

00:28:20.280 of the Tories,

00:28:20.860 the NDP won 15

00:28:22.240 of 24 seats

00:28:23.060 in Calgary.

00:28:23.560 I don't expect them

00:28:24.680 to win a single seat

00:28:25.600 in Calgary this time.

00:28:26.900 That is how detested

00:28:27.840 they are in Calgary

00:28:29.600 because of the damage

00:28:31.380 they have done

00:28:32.120 with their

00:28:33.440 environmental regulations

00:28:34.780 and their carbon tax

00:28:35.880 and their higher

00:28:36.620 corporate taxes.

00:28:37.500 That's the damage

00:28:38.560 they have done

00:28:39.180 to the business community

00:28:41.100 and by extension

00:28:42.820 to all the workers

00:28:43.880 who work in oil

00:28:44.700 in Calgary.

00:28:47.720 The only by-election

00:28:49.580 we've seen

00:28:50.000 in the last two years

00:28:50.700 was the one

00:28:51.160 that Jason Kenney ran in

00:28:52.220 and the UCP

00:28:54.540 won 71 to 16

00:28:56.520 for the NDP

00:28:58.660 and I think

00:28:59.620 you're going to see

00:29:00.160 riding after riding

00:29:01.560 after riding

00:29:02.200 in Calgary

00:29:02.940 where that's

00:29:03.900 the kind of breakdown

00:29:05.380 that there is.

00:29:06.100 People just cannot

00:29:07.240 stand them

00:29:08.060 and if you can't win

00:29:09.120 either Edmonton

00:29:10.720 or Calgary

00:29:11.520 and the rest

00:29:12.900 of the problems,

00:29:13.520 you have to win

00:29:13.900 one of the major cities

00:29:14.880 and the rest

00:29:15.580 of the problems,

00:29:16.500 you can't win

00:29:17.420 a majority.

00:29:18.400 Well,

00:29:18.740 so let's look out

00:29:19.480 beyond Edmonton

00:29:20.620 and Calgary

00:29:21.000 and look at

00:29:21.340 there's 38 ridings

00:29:22.560 in the rest

00:29:23.080 of the province.

00:29:25.200 The polling numbers

00:29:26.420 for the NDP

00:29:26.900 are even worse there.

00:29:28.120 I mean,

00:29:28.280 they've angered

00:29:29.280 the agricultural community

00:29:30.460 with what was called

00:29:31.840 Bill 6

00:29:32.400 and I know you did

00:29:33.080 an awful lot

00:29:33.780 of coverage

00:29:34.680 of Bill 6.

00:29:35.440 It was to basically

00:29:36.620 make like

00:29:38.260 union workplaces

00:29:39.900 all the farms

00:29:41.020 with farm laborers

00:29:42.520 in the province

00:29:43.240 and it's so

00:29:44.520 antithetical

00:29:45.660 to the mentality

00:29:47.180 of most farm families

00:29:49.220 that it created

00:29:49.960 a huge controversy.

00:29:51.600 So that's cut them

00:29:52.780 off from the farm types.

00:29:54.360 All the real work

00:29:55.460 in oil and gas

00:29:56.160 is done

00:29:56.560 outside of Edmonton

00:29:58.080 and Calgary

00:29:58.740 and that's put them off.

00:30:01.220 So I don't see them

00:30:02.300 winning more than,

00:30:03.720 well,

00:30:03.900 I don't see them winning

00:30:04.420 any seats out of the 38

00:30:05.580 but say they win

00:30:06.620 three or four.

00:30:07.520 You now have,

00:30:09.820 you need 44,

00:30:11.200 the UCP wins

00:30:12.340 24 in Calgary,

00:30:14.420 23 in Calgary

00:30:15.640 and it wins

00:30:16.780 35 in the rest of the,

00:30:19.020 they've already got

00:30:19.740 a majority.

00:30:20.180 They don't even have

00:30:20.600 to look at Edmonton.

00:30:21.940 Well, let me ask you about-

00:30:22.860 Edmonton is not going

00:30:23.460 to be monolithic

00:30:24.180 for the NDP this time.

00:30:25.860 Right.

00:30:26.340 I mean,

00:30:26.720 obviously there's a lot

00:30:27.740 of public sector workers

00:30:29.240 I see in your column,

00:30:30.400 you had a column

00:30:30.820 yesterday called

00:30:32.580 The Race is On

00:30:33.320 in Alberta

00:30:33.740 and the advantage

00:30:34.360 is all UCP.

00:30:35.380 I'm just going to quote

00:30:36.140 a little bit

00:30:36.540 from your article.

00:30:38.020 You say that

00:30:38.800 if you work

00:30:39.960 in the public sector

00:30:40.960 there have been

00:30:42.300 lots of new

00:30:43.380 tax supported jobs

00:30:44.540 in Alberta

00:30:44.920 in the past four years,

00:30:46.340 58,000

00:30:48.540 new public sector jobs.

00:30:50.520 The Alberta workforce

00:30:51.380 was 19%

00:30:53.840 public sector

00:30:54.540 in 2015

00:30:55.420 but is almost

00:30:56.820 24% now.

00:30:58.420 That's unbelievable.

00:31:00.880 It is.

00:31:01.200 It's staggering.

00:31:02.300 And the net loss

00:31:03.620 in private sector jobs

00:31:05.380 was 48,000.

00:31:07.360 Jeez.

00:31:08.060 So we have

00:31:09.780 about 185,000 people

00:31:11.560 looking for work

00:31:12.280 in Alberta right now.

00:31:13.280 We have

00:31:13.760 higher unemployment

00:31:15.200 in Alberta

00:31:16.880 than in Nova Scotia.

00:31:18.820 Yeah.

00:31:19.220 And Calgary's

00:31:20.060 number one,

00:31:20.860 Edmonton's number three

00:31:21.900 for unemployment rates

00:31:23.400 among major cities

00:31:24.440 in the whole country.

00:31:26.500 Yeah, you know,

00:31:27.000 I've never happened.

00:31:28.000 In my lifetime,

00:31:28.620 I don't remember.

00:31:29.120 I remember writing

00:31:30.320 all sorts of columns

00:31:31.380 in the 1990s

00:31:33.740 and the 2000s

00:31:34.800 and into the teens

00:31:35.900 about how Alberta

00:31:37.340 had the highest

00:31:38.160 labor market

00:31:39.420 participation rate

00:31:40.520 of any province

00:31:41.620 or territory

00:31:42.240 in the country.

00:31:43.400 We were about 75%

00:31:44.640 of Albertans

00:31:45.860 of working age

00:31:46.840 had jobs.

00:31:48.320 And the next highest

00:31:49.620 was Saskatchewan

00:31:50.300 at about 69%.

00:31:51.420 Yeah.

00:31:51.720 We like to work here.

00:31:53.420 Yeah.

00:31:53.680 And despite the fact

00:31:54.580 that there are so many people

00:31:55.780 actively in the labor market,

00:31:57.320 we still had the lowest

00:31:58.540 unemployment rate

00:31:59.900 year after year

00:32:01.200 after decade

00:32:01.880 after decade.

00:32:02.960 Yeah.

00:32:03.400 And now we have the NDP

00:32:04.520 and we have one of the highest

00:32:05.720 unemployment rates

00:32:06.640 in the country.

00:32:08.300 And the thing that really

00:32:09.580 grinds my teeth

00:32:10.880 with the NDP

00:32:11.600 is that they keep

00:32:12.840 talking about how

00:32:13.720 they have made sure

00:32:15.480 that in their four years

00:32:17.680 that the benefits

00:32:19.080 have reached

00:32:19.740 every working Albertan,

00:32:21.460 how they're so good

00:32:24.080 for working families.

00:32:25.440 They care

00:32:26.340 and the conservatives don't.

00:32:27.380 We have unemployment

00:32:29.240 that we have never

00:32:30.280 seen before.

00:32:31.300 Not since the 30s.

00:32:32.440 Not since the dirty 30s.

00:32:34.000 You know,

00:32:34.260 I mentioned before

00:32:36.260 I was on a frack site

00:32:37.480 in Pennsylvania

00:32:38.040 of all places.

00:32:39.680 You know,

00:32:40.480 I follow some of these

00:32:41.900 really booming

00:32:43.120 American oil

00:32:44.680 and gas jurisdictions.

00:32:46.400 The Bakken

00:32:47.160 Geological Formation,

00:32:48.860 that's North Dakota.

00:32:50.120 And it goes into

00:32:51.180 Saskatchewan too.

00:32:52.280 Lucky them.

00:32:53.380 The Permian Basin

00:32:55.020 in West Texas.

00:32:56.440 There's all these

00:32:57.440 new places

00:32:58.220 where they're fracking

00:32:59.240 for oil,

00:33:00.240 fracking for gas.

00:33:01.720 And U.S.

00:33:02.640 oil production

00:33:03.180 has never been higher.

00:33:04.980 Never been higher.

00:33:05.960 It's the record.

00:33:06.900 They're actually

00:33:07.340 energy self-sufficient now.

00:33:08.700 They're exporting.

00:33:10.260 North Dakota,

00:33:12.060 1.4 million barrels

00:33:13.580 of oil per day

00:33:14.620 in a state

00:33:15.720 that's, what,

00:33:16.740 750,000 people?

00:33:18.620 So the idea,

00:33:19.780 and their unemployment rate

00:33:20.720 is so low,

00:33:21.340 the idea that this is

00:33:22.540 world oil prices

00:33:24.200 or some foreign problem.

00:33:26.320 Tell that to North Dakota,

00:33:27.660 West Texas,

00:33:28.360 Pennsylvania.

00:33:29.300 That's what gets mean.

00:33:31.100 Absolutely.

00:33:31.860 In the last two years,

00:33:34.100 investment in oil and gas

00:33:35.840 in the United States

00:33:36.680 has gone up

00:33:37.660 by 50%.

00:33:39.040 Yeah, that's amazing.

00:33:40.300 And in Canada,

00:33:41.780 it has fallen

00:33:42.600 by 76%.

00:33:43.800 And that is all

00:33:45.520 federal and provincial

00:33:46.700 policy.

00:33:47.960 It has nothing to do

00:33:48.800 with the world price of oil.

00:33:49.920 It's the fact

00:33:50.880 that the federal government

00:33:51.840 will not use

00:33:52.640 its constitutional authority

00:33:54.140 to get a pipeline built.

00:33:55.700 It colluded

00:33:57.740 with Quebec politicians

00:34:00.180 to prevent Energy East

00:34:01.660 from being built.

00:34:02.640 It hasn't pushed

00:34:03.600 Trans Mountain.

00:34:04.500 It canceled

00:34:05.340 Northern Gateway.

00:34:06.820 It's done everything

00:34:07.820 it can to landlock

00:34:09.260 Alberta's oil and gas.

00:34:11.900 You and I have talked

00:34:12.740 before about how

00:34:13.800 people like Gerald Butts,

00:34:15.660 who was the former

00:34:16.320 principal secretary

00:34:17.040 to the prime minister,

00:34:17.800 were all part of

00:34:18.640 a demarketing scheme

00:34:20.700 where, you know,

00:34:21.380 you can pump as much oil

00:34:22.600 as you'd like,

00:34:23.120 but we're going to make sure

00:34:23.760 you get no markets for it.

00:34:25.800 And all of that,

00:34:28.100 plus the carbon tax,

00:34:29.540 plus the huge corporate

00:34:32.020 tax increases

00:34:32.780 that we've had in Alberta,

00:34:34.020 which surprisingly,

00:34:35.260 not surprisingly,

00:34:36.260 haven't raised as much money

00:34:37.780 as was being raised

00:34:38.600 under the lower rate.

00:34:40.020 All of that together

00:34:41.380 has scared away

00:34:42.380 about $100 billion

00:34:44.100 in private sector investment

00:34:46.880 in oil and gas

00:34:47.840 in the last two years alone.

00:34:49.500 That's a huge chunk

00:34:51.020 out of the Alberta

00:34:51.700 and out of the national economy.

00:34:53.860 And that is why

00:34:55.180 the NDP are not going to win

00:34:57.100 because instinctively

00:34:58.760 Albertans understand

00:34:59.620 how damaging they've been

00:35:01.000 to the economy.

00:35:02.460 Yeah.

00:35:02.700 What makes me sad

00:35:03.740 is that even replacing

00:35:04.920 Rachel Notley

00:35:05.520 with Jason Kenney,

00:35:06.400 you still have two major problems,

00:35:08.060 John Horgan,

00:35:08.960 the premier of BC,

00:35:10.180 and Justin Trudeau,

00:35:11.560 the prime minister of Canada.

00:35:12.500 But at least you'll have someone

00:35:15.960 in Edmonton

00:35:16.680 that finally is putting Alberta 0.72

00:35:18.560 in the oil patch first.

00:35:19.640 I've got two more quick questions

00:35:20.760 for you,

00:35:21.140 if you would indulge me.

00:35:23.020 You mentioned the rural parts.

00:35:24.640 I'd like to ask you

00:35:25.520 about one rural MLA

00:35:27.680 and one small town MLA.

00:35:30.760 I'm referring to Derek Fildebrandt,

00:35:33.280 who used to be

00:35:34.520 quite a prominent MLA.

00:35:36.100 He was very prominent

00:35:37.660 in the Wild Rose Party.

00:35:39.080 Then he fell out of good standing

00:35:42.000 with Jason

00:35:42.540 and had some troubles.

00:35:44.440 And now he's started

00:35:45.200 his own one-man party, really,

00:35:48.120 called the Freedom Conservative Party.

00:35:50.500 Maybe he's got another MLA.

00:35:51.680 I don't think so.

00:35:53.140 Does he have any chance

00:35:54.420 or is he going to be

00:35:55.360 steamrolled by the UCP?

00:35:57.180 And then I'm going to ask you

00:35:58.320 about Shannon Phillips,

00:35:59.880 the environment minister

00:36:01.920 who's from Lethbridge.

00:36:03.760 What do you think

00:36:04.500 about those two?

00:36:06.400 I don't think Fildebrandt's

00:36:07.780 going to win.

00:36:08.240 If you get outside of Edmonton,

00:36:12.400 anybody or any party

00:36:15.040 that seems to be getting

00:36:16.480 in the way of getting rid

00:36:17.800 of the NDP

00:36:18.480 is going to get pushed aside.

00:36:20.860 Yeah.

00:36:21.040 So I think most voters

00:36:22.500 are going to say,

00:36:23.400 can Derek Fildebrandt

00:36:25.840 beat the NDP?

00:36:26.580 No.

00:36:27.040 OK, so I'm voting the UCP.

00:36:28.580 Yeah.

00:36:28.980 I could be wrong about that.

00:36:30.600 It's not clear to me

00:36:32.120 that he's particularly

00:36:33.140 personally popular

00:36:34.500 in his riding.

00:36:35.660 He has a new riding

00:36:37.060 that he's running into.

00:36:38.240 So that makes it even trickier

00:36:40.260 for him to win.

00:36:41.480 So my my thinking is

00:36:43.180 Fildebrandt is not going to win.

00:36:44.920 Yeah.

00:36:45.460 And then the Shannon Phillips,

00:36:48.300 I don't think is going to win either.

00:36:50.420 Her riding, which is Lethbridge West,

00:36:52.460 includes the University of Lethbridge.

00:36:54.260 And it has been Liberal or NDP

00:36:58.040 more than it's been Conservative

00:36:59.680 for the last 30 years.

00:37:01.720 It might she might still hold on to that.

00:37:05.220 But the last polling I saw

00:37:06.700 that went into any detail at all

00:37:08.340 in her riding had her 24 points down 0.99

00:37:10.500 to the UCP.

00:37:11.940 Yeah.

00:37:12.080 So I think she will not survive either.

00:37:15.540 Yeah, I think you're right

00:37:17.080 on both of those predictions.

00:37:18.180 But I'm 2,000 kilometers away.

00:37:20.280 So my I'm not as good

00:37:23.360 at detecting things from out here.

00:37:25.580 Long as 25 days left to go.

00:37:28.700 Anything can happen in 25 days.

00:37:31.340 But I agree with you.

00:37:32.600 You know, it reminds me

00:37:33.220 of what people I think

00:37:33.940 Donald Trump said of himself. 1.00

00:37:35.200 He said, I could shoot a guy 0.99

00:37:36.800 in broad daylight on Fifth Avenue 0.99

00:37:38.280 and my supporters would still like me.

00:37:39.600 I think he said something like that.

00:37:41.940 And there's a truth to it.

00:37:43.320 And he said this with all the media.

00:37:46.600 Oh, he said the P word.

00:37:48.620 He said this word.

00:37:50.080 He was mean.

00:37:51.180 Like people don't care.

00:37:53.080 They just wanted Trump to fight,

00:37:56.800 you know, drain the swamp, beat Hillary. 1.00

00:37:58.820 They literally did not care

00:38:01.220 about any rudeness.

00:38:03.560 I think that's how it is with Kenny.

00:38:05.460 I think people are disappointed

00:38:06.460 with these shenanigans.

00:38:07.940 But they don't even what's that?

00:38:09.360 What does that stand up

00:38:10.580 next to 200,000 unemployed people?

00:38:12.540 Last word to you, Lorne.

00:38:14.040 You remember the movie Braveheart?

00:38:16.080 There's a guy comes from Ireland

00:38:18.100 to join William Wallace and the Scots

00:38:20.020 to fight the British.

00:38:21.300 And he says, do we get the Kelda English?

00:38:24.420 They're talking about strategy.

00:38:25.900 They're talking about the morality of it all.

00:38:27.700 And he's the only question is,

00:38:29.320 do we get the Kelda English?

00:38:31.360 And when he said, when Wallace says yes,

00:38:34.220 that's good enough for him.

00:38:35.380 And so people are going to say,

00:38:36.660 well, do we get rid of the NDP?

00:38:38.220 Yeah.

00:38:38.920 OK, fine.

00:38:40.140 You know, you could have pictures

00:38:41.020 of the UCP caucus at a satanic cult ritual

00:38:44.660 with disemboweled goats.

00:38:47.300 And I don't think it would make any difference.

00:38:48.880 You know what?

00:38:49.640 I got to tell you, you're right.

00:38:51.320 I'd rather...

00:38:52.440 That's a funny way.

00:38:55.400 Y'all, we'll end on that note.

00:38:57.080 Lorne Gunter, it's great to see you again.

00:38:58.300 Thanks for keeping us posted.

00:39:00.080 You bet.

00:39:00.780 All right.

00:39:01.060 There you have it.

00:39:01.500 Our friend Lorne Gunter, senior columnist

00:39:03.780 with the Edmonton Sun.

00:39:04.740 I think he's right.

00:39:05.920 I think people are so desperate there

00:39:07.340 they would vote for anyone

00:39:08.460 to get rid of Rachel Notley and the NDP.

00:39:11.660 By the way, I recommend to you

00:39:13.340 our short book on the subject

00:39:15.280 published this week by Sheila Gunn-Reed.

00:39:18.120 It's called Stop Notley.

00:39:20.540 Very much to the point.

00:39:21.800 And you can get it at stopnotley.com.

00:39:24.660 Stay with us.

00:39:25.180 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:39:25.760 Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday

00:39:38.260 about new details released in the budget

00:39:40.360 of Trudeau's $595 million media bailout.

00:39:43.600 And by the way, I'm sorry we had technical problems

00:39:45.900 last night, but you can see that show now.

00:39:48.240 Mark writes,

00:39:49.880 Ezra hit the nail right on the head. 0.97

00:39:51.140 The prostitute does what it is paid to do. 1.00

00:39:53.460 I know that is really rough language,

00:39:56.480 but I think there is all the difference in the world

00:39:59.820 between someone who loves you for who you are

00:40:02.520 and someone who loves you because you pay them cash.

00:40:08.480 I'm sure it's fine that some journalists

00:40:11.300 genuinely support Justin Trudeau.

00:40:14.120 A lot of candidates liberal, I think it's fair.

00:40:17.160 But if that journalist is paid by Trudeau,

00:40:19.720 then how do you know if it's a genuine editorial view

00:40:22.740 or if it's just pay for play, 0.99

00:40:24.840 if it's just a PR man, a prostitute? 0.88

00:40:28.100 Story, that's what it is.

00:40:29.800 I mean, they're haggling over the amount of the fee,

00:40:33.340 but that doesn't change what they are.

00:40:36.580 Billy writes,

00:40:37.900 the rebel should fight for QCJO status

00:40:42.620 to prevent Justin from refusing access

00:40:44.880 and answering questions from rebel reporters.

00:40:46.520 The monetary benefit can be directed towards a charity.

00:40:50.620 QCJO stands for Qualified Canadian Journalism Organization.

00:40:56.280 That's the journalism license

00:40:58.940 that Trudeau invented in the budget this week.

00:41:01.760 Just incredible.

00:41:03.540 Funny thing is I read very carefully

00:41:04.880 the registration requirements

00:41:06.560 and the rebel meets the test

00:41:08.340 much better than many other media, by the way.

00:41:11.000 I mean, for example, Post Media,

00:41:12.800 which has the National Post,

00:41:13.760 most of the dailies in Canada,

00:41:15.400 Calgary Herald, Calgary Sun,

00:41:17.240 Edmonton Journal, Edmonton Sun,

00:41:18.380 Vancouver, Sun, Vancouver Province,

00:41:20.360 Montreal Gazette, need I go on.

00:41:22.580 They're all owned by Post Media.

00:41:24.140 Post Media, their big owner

00:41:27.700 is a New Jersey hedge fund.

00:41:31.100 Hundreds of millions of dollars.

00:41:32.700 They're owned by Americans. 0.99

00:41:36.860 They're going to get the lion's share of the bailout.

00:41:38.480 So I'm just saying the rules don't bar us. 0.99

00:41:41.800 I just don't want to be a prostitute. 0.60

00:41:43.540 You're saying take the money 0.99

00:41:44.620 and do something else with it.

00:41:46.200 Well, I understand the suggestion

00:41:51.340 of applying just to show them up.

00:41:54.560 But at the end of the day,

00:41:56.320 it's essential that we not take the money.

00:41:58.880 That's just absolutely essential to who we are.

00:42:01.300 It's like kryptonite to us.

00:42:04.080 Linda writes,

00:42:04.600 Yes, there is only one reason Trudeau et al are gunning for you.

00:42:07.860 You are a serious threat to Twinkle Toe's re-election.

00:42:11.060 I am one of your ilk and proud to stand with you.

00:42:13.620 Yeah, ilk.

00:42:14.860 That was, I think, the phrase used by the APTN reporter

00:42:19.680 and approved of by the Ottawa Citizen reporter.

00:42:24.040 I mean, could these guys be any more transparent?

00:42:26.780 If they were smart, they would just shut up

00:42:29.040 and not mention the obvious political test.

00:42:32.360 But they can't help themselves

00:42:35.140 because they know that's what this is.

00:42:37.000 This is about the fancy people getting a subsidy

00:42:39.200 and the bad people like you and me

00:42:41.480 being shut out and eventually censored.

00:42:43.980 That's a fact.

00:42:45.300 Well, folks, that's the show for today.

00:42:47.140 Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here

00:42:48.980 at Rebel World Headquarters, good night.

00:42:51.420 Keep fighting for freedom.

00:42:52.380 We'll see you next time.

Rebel News Podcast - March 22, 2019

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