Rebel News Podcast - US Democrats smear oilsands with nuisance lawsuit. Don’t count on Trudeau or Notley to defend us.

00:00:00.000 Tonight, Democrats smear the oil sands again, this time with a nuisance lawsuit.

00:00:05.800 But don't count on Justin Trudeau or Rachel Notley to defend us.

00:00:08.940 It's October 26, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.

00:00:17.460 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:00:21.280 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:00:24.980 You come here once a year with a sign, and you feel morally superior.

00:00:27.980 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:00:38.840 Justin Trudeau loves the U.S. Democrats.

00:00:42.300 I mean, he loved going down to the White House when Barack Obama was in power and they overlapped.

00:00:48.180 He didn't bother bringing Canada's trade minister or energy minister with him to the party,

00:00:53.640 but he brought all of his personal friends.

00:00:54.920 And if you can believe it, he brought his mother and his in-laws and all his liberal party fundraising friends

00:01:02.540 because in many ways Barack Obama was sort of shallow like Trudeau, all about style, not about substance.

00:01:08.880 He loved celebrities too.

00:01:11.040 They both loved taking selfies.

00:01:12.520 Remember this whole video here, the selfie stick?

00:01:14.440 And when Hillary Clinton ran for office, same thing. 1.00

00:01:19.400 Trudeau, like the rest of the world, just assumed Hillary Clinton would win. 0.92

00:01:24.320 It wasn't just shallow relations.

00:01:26.140 So senior personnel from the Democratic Party came to Canada in 2015

00:01:30.920 to take senior positions in Justin Trudeau's Ottawa campaign team.

00:01:35.100 If a Canadian conservative ever brought up top Republicans, say Steve Bannon, to run a Canadian campaign,

00:01:43.080 it would be all the media up here talked about.

00:01:46.460 But when Democrats bring in their senior guns, well, it's called clever and savvy.

00:01:51.340 But my point is this.

00:01:52.560 Justin Trudeau and his liberals love the U.S. Democrats.

00:01:55.540 And they've never, not once, ever spoken out against a policy that is central to Democrats these days,

00:02:05.400 and that is opposing Canada's oil sense.

00:02:08.600 When Hillary Clinton first looked at the Keystone XL pipeline, it made obvious sense.

00:02:13.860 She was the Secretary of State at the time.

00:02:15.860 Because Canadian oil would replace Venezuelan oil imports to the U.S.

00:02:19.600 It was obviously environmentally superior than shipping oil by train.

00:02:24.000 It helped relieve the pipeline shortage in the U.S. Bakken geographical region in North Dakota.

00:02:29.820 So she said she was inclined to support it.

00:02:32.500 But as you can see by this chart here, over the years of delay,

00:02:37.440 she realized which way the wind was blowing in the U.S. Democrats.

00:02:41.120 The party was colonized by environmental extremists,

00:02:44.220 just like Trudeau let Gerald Butts, an anti-oil-sans lobbyist, colonize Canada's Liberal Party.

00:02:50.300 I mean, remember this. I've shown you this before.

00:02:51.980 Here's Gerald Butts, just before he ran Trudeau's campaign, talking about oil.

00:02:55.980 We think that the oil sands have been expanded too rapidly

00:02:58.660 without a serious plan for environmental remediation in the first place.

00:03:04.380 So that's why we don't think it's up to us to decide whether there should be another route for a pipeline.

00:03:10.600 Because the real alternative is not an alternative route.

00:03:15.120 It's an alternative economy.

00:03:16.380 So that's the Canadian side.

00:03:18.860 And on the U.S. side, there's a big U.S. Democrat named Tom Steyer out of San Francisco

00:03:23.060 who has poured tens of millions of dollars into the Democrats,

00:03:27.400 supporting various candidates in return for a promise from them to demonize Canada's oil sands oil.

00:03:33.880 Steyer had come to Mayflower to gather ammunition for what may be the biggest fight of his life,

00:03:40.840 trying to stop the Keystone XL pipeline from being built.

00:03:44.600 It would stretch from the Canadian tar sands across the U.S. to refineries on the Gulf.

00:03:49.800 It's not going to the United States.

00:03:51.360 What the true argument is that it's going to be more oil not from the Middle East.

00:03:56.400 That is true.

00:03:57.460 But it doesn't mean it's more oil to the United States not from the Middle East.

00:04:00.200 It just means there's more oil not from the Middle East in the world market.

00:04:02.880 Steyer says the bigger climate issue is how the tar sands oil is recovered from the Canadian tundra.

00:04:08.660 This is a gigantic mining operation in the middle of nowhere.

00:04:13.520 They want to take production by 2025 more than double it.

00:04:18.020 And your job is to make sure that never comes out of the ground.

00:04:20.780 Well, look, from my point of view, I'm not a scientist.

00:04:26.240 The scientists say it would be devastatingly terrible for the 7 billion people on the Earth if it does.

00:04:31.260 Yeah, so that's Tom Steyer, the number one donor to the Democrats.

00:04:36.360 He actually donates even more than George Soros, who also gives a lot of money to the Democrats.

00:04:41.320 But he prefers to give directly to environmental lobby groups, street gangs, you know.

00:04:46.620 So my point is Trudeau has colonized the Canadian Liberal Party with environmentalists the same way Steyer and Soros have colonized the Democrats.

00:04:56.780 And they all made the Canadian oil sands their number one enemy.

00:05:00.480 And neither Justin Trudeau nor Rachel Notley has said a hard word when Barack Obama killed the Keystone XL pipeline shortly after Trudeau was elected because they hated the pipeline too.

00:05:10.500 Here's Rachel Notley.

00:05:11.800 Our position on the Keystone was that if we ship unprocessed bitumen to Texas, according to this government and to the American government,

00:05:21.040 we will give tens of thousands of Alberta jobs to Texas, not to Albertans.

00:05:26.040 And that's not what Albertans want to see.

00:05:27.680 So, yeah, Canadian Liberals and NDPers united with U.S. Democrats to demonize and tax Alberta and Saskatchewan oil and to keep OPEC oil flowing just fine.

00:05:39.060 Not a word from any of them against that.

00:05:41.920 Then Donald Trump happened.

00:05:43.500 What a surprise.

00:05:45.200 And one of the very first things he did was reverse the Obama-Clinton blockade of the Keystone XL pipeline.

00:05:52.620 And it's a good thing he did because Trump seems to be the only leader around these days who can get a pipeline built.

00:05:57.840 Trudeau sure can't.

00:05:58.840 Notley sure can't.

00:05:59.760 Trump, well, he's doing it.

00:06:01.920 But that brings us to the news of the day.

00:06:03.660 Here's the story in the Financial Post.

00:06:07.400 Let me read the headline.

00:06:08.260 Exxon sued in the United States for allegedly low-balling Alberta oil sands carbon costs.

00:06:14.200 Let me read some of the story to you.

00:06:15.680 A lawsuit filed this week in the U.S. court says ExxonMobil has dramatically underestimated the risks its oil sands assets face from efforts to reduce carbon emissions.

00:06:26.060 The lawsuit, filed after a three-year investigation by the New York Attorney General's office, charges that Exxon deliberately low-balled by $30 billion the carbon costs faced by 14 different Alberta oil sands operations it runs through its subsidiary Imperial Oil.

00:06:39.560 So just to be clear, this is not a real lawsuit by investors who think Exxon did something wrong.

00:06:47.060 Exxon is America's largest oil company.

00:06:49.080 It is rigorously managed, scrutinized, audited, governed, controlled.

00:06:53.520 It is not a rogue company cheating investors.

00:06:57.100 This is a political lawsuit by a bunch of left-wing attorneys general who all are trying to run for governor or senator or even president in the Democratic Party of today,

00:07:06.140 where you each have to outdo each other hating oil and gas.

00:07:09.900 And not any oil and gas, not opaque oil and gas, oil sands.

00:07:14.220 So it's really Tom Steyer's people pulling a stunt.

00:07:17.240 Let me read some more from the story in the Financial Post.

00:07:19.120 The legal action is a civil suit arguing Exxon defrauded investors by disguising its carbon liabilities.

00:07:26.780 None of its statements has been proven in court and a statement of defense has not yet been filed.

00:07:30.160 So these left-wingers are trying to force, through a lawsuit, the recognition of a fairy tale that carbon dioxide is costly and Exxon is lying when it doesn't agree that carbon taxes are good and oil is bad.

00:07:46.500 It's so weird.

00:07:47.460 It's not even a real lawsuit.

00:07:49.020 It's really a first-year university debating club resolution, but with the resources of various departments of justice backing it up.

00:07:55.120 Let me read just a little bit more.

00:07:56.420 These basis allegations are a product of closed-door lobbying by special interests, political opportunism, and the attorney general's inability to admit that a three-year investigation has uncovered no wrongdoing, the company said.

00:08:09.720 Yeah, I mean, let me translate.

00:08:11.100 If you are an attorney general, and in New York, that is often the stepping stone to running for governor, you need to fundraise like crazy.

00:08:18.840 You need to raise millions.

00:08:20.160 And Tom Steyer has been waiving around tens of millions of dollars to Democrats anywhere who will fight the Keystone XL pipeline.

00:08:28.720 So let me read just one more line.

00:08:30.160 I think this is the last quote from the story.

00:08:32.460 The lawsuit alleges Exxon has for years told investors it was accounting for risks such as increasing carbon taxes and other regulatory measures meant to reduce oil demand and fight climate change.

00:08:42.040 However, Exxon has proceeded using much lower estimates of such risks, called proxy costs, the claim says.

00:08:49.700 So it's not a real lawsuit.

00:08:51.980 It's saying if the whole world were to bring in punitive carbon taxes, and if everyone would stop using oil because of it, and if under these carbon taxes Exxon wasn't able to get an exemption, and if it was all shut down, then they could face higher costs than they're letting on.

00:09:10.220 Yeah, that's a pretty hypothetical situation.

00:09:13.200 But of course, Exxon actually did manage to get a serious exemption, as all big companies did, from Rachel Notley's carbon tax.

00:09:20.740 All big emitters did.

00:09:22.040 And now Justin Trudeau and Catherine McKenna are promising the same thing for their carbon tax.

00:09:26.640 And Donald Trump is removing taxes.

00:09:29.360 Look, carbon taxes always only tax little people.

00:09:32.220 The big guys can lobby their way out of it.

00:09:33.800 The big corporations are in touch.

00:09:35.340 So Exxon is probably pretty accurate with their predictions.

00:09:37.980 And look, if they're not, so their stock price will sink.

00:09:42.180 And if shareholders are angry at their executives, they'll vote them out at their shareholders, meaning whatever.

00:09:48.260 So the company's shareholders right now have already priced in all the information they think it's accurate.

00:09:54.820 If they don't, they would sell their shares or short their stock.

00:09:58.880 Just Tom Sire says carbon dioxide is deadly.

00:10:03.300 And Justin Trudeau and Catherine McKenna call carbon dioxide pollution.

00:10:07.340 It doesn't mean we're going to die.

00:10:08.660 It doesn't mean it's true.

00:10:10.360 Some might even point out that Tom Sire himself made his millions in coal and oil.

00:10:15.720 So I don't think he actually believes what he's saying.

00:10:20.920 But there you have it. 0.89

00:10:21.780 It's just a bunch of loser Democrats abusing their positions as attorneys general, abusing taxpayer resources to file nuisance suits. 0.98

00:10:29.440 Here's a hint. 0.97

00:10:30.140 Here's a hint.

00:10:30.580 Look at this.

00:10:31.240 Look at that photo there.

00:10:32.240 If you're a group of Democratic attorneys general and you're having a serious press conference about a lawsuit, you're probably not going to invite Al Gore.

00:10:41.120 Because that's sort of the tip off.

00:10:43.520 This is about extremist politics, not the law, not science.

00:10:46.700 And by the way, hold that on the screen for a second there.

00:10:48.580 That fell at the mic.

00:10:49.860 That's the former attorney general in New York who was thrown out because of a Me Too allegation. 0.97

00:10:57.200 These are a bunch of crooked demons. 0.96

00:10:59.040 Let's be honest. 0.53

00:10:59.660 This story here is actually from two years ago when Steinerman and the other attorneys general sued not only Exxon, but they actually sued, get this, a pro-energy think tank called the Competitive Enterprise Institute for what?

00:11:14.760 For daring to disagree with the theory of man-made global warming.

00:11:18.640 Seriously, that's all the Competitive Enterprise Institute does.

00:11:21.600 It's not an oil company.

00:11:23.240 It's a think tank.

00:11:25.080 It's really just people with opinions.

00:11:27.160 But those left-wing Democrats sued them. 0.66

00:11:31.000 So it's a junk science lawsuit. 0.86

00:11:33.180 It's a sham gimmick lawsuit. 0.85

00:11:35.760 But even if it wasn't, where's our side?

00:11:39.720 I mean, where's the Canadian side?

00:11:41.180 Where's the defenders of the oil sands?

00:11:43.320 Not the defenders of Exxon.

00:11:44.500 They're big boys.

00:11:45.540 I think they can handle themselves.

00:11:47.480 I think they're smarter than Trudeau and Notley.

00:11:49.560 I think they probably have as many lawyers as Trudeau and Notley.

00:11:52.360 I'm talking about the oil sands itself.

00:11:55.240 Who's defending that?

00:11:57.160 Because this lawsuit isn't really about the law.

00:11:59.240 I mean, come on.

00:11:59.940 It's about politics and PR.

00:12:01.340 Al Gore, come on.

00:12:03.480 So where's our side of the PR, of the politics?

00:12:07.480 Where are our defenders in, not in the court of law, in the court of public opinion?

00:12:13.460 Where's our side?

00:12:15.120 Here's what I mean.

00:12:15.620 When Canada's pampered Quebec dairy cartel, the millionaires who convinced the federal government

00:12:21.340 to jack up prices of milk and cheese and yogurt for all of us, when that industry is faced

00:12:26.600 with the possibility that it might have to lower its artificially high prices because

00:12:30.520 Donald Trump wants to be able to sell American dairy into Canada, which would lower prices

00:12:34.240 for all of us, well, Andrew Scheer and Justin Trudeau trip over each other to promise the

00:12:40.260 moon to these Quebec dairy millionaires. 0.89

00:12:44.580 Okay, fine.

00:12:46.080 I'm not talking about giving money away.

00:12:47.780 I'm just saying to morally come to the defense of the oil sands, where are Scheer and Trudeau

00:12:53.220 and Notley to defend Alberta's oil sands?

00:12:55.860 Not to defend some artificial privilege, but to simply defend Canada's reputation, Alberta's

00:13:00.520 reputation, our ethical oil at all.

00:13:03.580 Where's Notley?

00:13:04.060 Why isn't she flying down to Manhattan to rebut these lies? 1.00

00:13:07.120 Where is Trudeau?

00:13:07.740 Why isn't he going down to New York?

00:13:09.420 He loves going to New York.

00:13:11.360 He loves going down to the schmooze, work his magic on his Democrat friends.

00:13:14.720 I mean, they love going to the states on taxpayers' expense, but they haven't even issued a statement

00:13:21.460 from their offices.

00:13:23.080 They haven't even made a tweet about this.

00:13:27.720 The answer is because none of them actually care about the oil sands.

00:13:32.220 They actually, if you press them, don't like the oil sands.

00:13:36.060 They both actually hate it, I think.

00:13:38.720 Neither has moved the pipelines forward an inch.

00:13:40.640 Both want to carbon tax it to death.

00:13:42.920 Justin Trudeau bought the existing Kinder Morgan Trans Mountain pipeline and overpaid by about

00:13:48.200 a billion dollars just to shut the company up from complaining about how its expansion

00:13:52.240 is being stopped.

00:13:53.340 When the federal court just ruled against the Trans Mountain and delayed its construction

00:13:57.840 by years, Trudeau said he won't even appeal that ruling.

00:14:00.920 He just spent $4.5 billion to not build a pipeline, not to build the pipeline, and Rachel

00:14:08.100 Notley's all fine with this too.

00:14:10.520 If the answer is so obvious, I can't even believe I've taken 10 minutes to tell it to

00:14:13.440 you, Rachel Notley and Justin Trudeau just don't have a problem with this anti-oil sands

00:14:19.120 lawsuit by their U.S. Democrat friends.

00:14:23.360 I'm just wondering why Jason Kenney and Andrew Scheer are silent too.

00:14:27.740 Stay with us for more.

00:14:28.780 Think about it yourself.

00:14:46.100 How would you feel if you were told that in order for you to go to heaven, this is what

00:14:53.660 you needed to wear, that in order for you to please your God, this is what you need to

00:15:00.620 wear.

00:15:01.660 Even if you choose to wear it because you want to go to heaven and you don't want to burn

00:15:07.560 in hell, you're not really given much of a choice, are you?

00:15:12.360 You know, we have to make sure that we understand that that's the mindset of the women that are 1.00

00:15:21.320 wearing it, okay?

00:15:23.020 And it is our responsibility in this kind of society that we're living in today to speak

00:15:28.860 up against those kinds of barbaric, misogynist, modesty culture ideals.

00:15:36.420 That is Yasmin Mohammed, who used to wear a full face obscuring niqab, talking about the 1.00

00:15:46.460 niqab, the burqa, the chador, various varieties of a garment that only women are asked to wear

00:15:55.360 in Islam, and especially in the case of the chador and the niqab, to totally obliterate 1.00

00:16:02.520 the face of the woman who is compelled to wear it.

00:16:06.940 This is in the news again because, of course, the new government of Quebec, which is ruled

00:16:12.880 by the upstart Coalition Avenir de Quebec party, has made one of their priorities banning

00:16:19.820 the burqa in the public service.

00:16:21.680 Just to be clear, they're not going to ban the burqa in the streets, only for those who 1.00

00:16:26.760 work in the government, both front lines dealing with staff and behind the scenes, are not going

00:16:32.120 to be allowed to wear ostentatious religious gear like that.

00:16:37.960 Joining us now to talk about this news is the lady you saw speaking on Twitter a moment

00:16:43.060 ago, Yasmin Mohammed, who joins us now via Skype.

00:16:46.140 Great to see you again, Yasmin.

00:16:47.180 Welcome back to the show.

00:16:48.860 Thank you so much, Ezra.

00:16:49.880 Thanks for having me.

00:16:50.620 Well, it's a pleasure, and of course, it's nice to talk with you, to hear what you say.

00:16:55.780 You're a thoughtful person, but it's also nice to see your face because when you talk

00:17:00.460 to someone, you look at their face, you look at their eyes, you look at their facial expressions.

00:17:04.760 Are they smiling?

00:17:05.520 Are they winking?

00:17:06.260 Are they, you know, scrunching their nose?

00:17:10.220 I mean, so much of the context, so much of the feeling and tone in our communication, you

00:17:16.340 have to see someone's face.

00:17:18.020 Someone could say the same word, and if they're winking or blinking or smiling or scowling,

00:17:24.280 it has totally different meaning.

00:17:25.820 When you take away someone's face, you can't even understand them, or at least you can't

00:17:32.180 understand them well.

00:17:32.920 What do you think of that?

00:17:33.760 I totally agree with you.

00:17:36.000 In fact, research shows that almost 90% of communication is nonverbal.

00:17:41.920 So, you know, even though when I was completely covered in black, you could hear my words,

00:17:48.020 you could hear the things I was saying, but we weren't really communicating effectively.

00:17:52.940 And you say it's nice to see my face, it's really nice to be able to show my face and

00:17:58.240 to be able to interact with society as an equal, as opposed to being erased, being hidden

00:18:05.900 behind this garb and feeling like I'm a ghost, just walking amongst people and I can see them

00:18:13.340 and they can't see me.

00:18:14.480 And it's really horrible for the person that wears this portable sensory deprivation chamber.

00:18:21.360 Yeah, that's exactly what it is.

00:18:23.280 Now, the niqab has a little slit for the eyes, but the chador, if I'm getting my terminology 0.99

00:18:27.560 right, it's sort of got a mesh in front, so you can't even, you can't even really see

00:18:32.060 through it.

00:18:32.380 It would be like a really thick screen.

00:18:35.760 And, sorry, go ahead, you were going to say?

00:18:38.340 I was going to say, I wore the, these are just different styles.

00:18:41.520 So there's Afghani style and there's Iranian and there's, you know, Arab.

00:18:45.560 And the kind that I wore was the Saudi Arabian style.

00:18:48.000 So it was, it was actually a black cloth covering my face entirely.

00:18:52.100 So there was no bit of skin showing at all.

00:18:56.400 Not even like my eyes.

00:18:58.520 Really?

00:18:58.960 Not even a tiny slit for your eyes?

00:19:01.160 That's in, that's, that is absolutely dehumanizing.

00:19:04.440 Absolutely dehumanizing.

00:19:05.780 Just a thinner fabric over my eyes.

00:19:07.740 But it's not like I could see properly.

00:19:09.840 It's not like I had peripheral vision.

00:19:12.540 It was, it was still totally obstructing every single one of my five senses.

00:19:17.400 You know, we all understand intuitively.

00:19:21.960 It's so intuitive, we don't even think about it.

00:19:24.780 It's so natural that when we talk to someone, if they're not making eye contact, just for

00:19:28.840 example, well, why?

00:19:30.880 If they're looking at you, but then they look away when they say something, is it because

00:19:33.900 they're telling a fib?

00:19:34.720 I mean, eye contact is so, are they paying attention?

00:19:39.300 Are they daydreaming?

00:19:40.680 Are they angry?

00:19:40.780 It's the windows to the soul.

00:19:42.520 Pardon me?

00:19:43.260 It's the windows to the soul.

00:19:45.040 And, and that's, that's a poetic phrase, but it's true.

00:19:47.800 It's why, it's why we have the right to face our accusers in court.

00:19:51.180 That's another thing.

00:19:51.800 If you're giving testimony in court and you can't see someone's face, are they shaking?

00:19:56.440 Are they quivering?

00:19:57.320 Do they have a facial tick like a poker tell when they start to lie?

00:20:01.600 It's, talking to someone behind a mask is so counter to human nature.

00:20:08.100 It's got nothing to do with race or religion or nationality.

00:20:11.500 It just, as humans, we look at each other's face.

00:20:14.800 The face, it, it, it reflects so much about our, our attitude, about our body, even.

00:20:21.940 I, the idea that you would just say to a woman, you can't show your face.

00:20:27.160 Everyone's got to know in their bones that's wrong.

00:20:29.560 So, you'd think.

00:20:32.460 Well, I mean, we've talked before about your own journey.

00:20:35.360 We talked before about how, and I don't propose to get into the details of the now,

00:20:39.640 but I would encourage our viewers to go back and, and you've come on the show before.

00:20:43.760 We did an extended interview about your own personal story, about how you were in a marriage

00:20:48.640 with actually a terrorist, incredibly, and how he kept you basically in a cage.

00:20:53.640 And I would, in fact, we'll put a link to that other view, interview at the bottom of this page

00:20:59.680 so people can, can see it.

00:21:01.640 But I want to talk about where you are now, because you have become a champion for women 1.00

00:21:08.920 who were still wearing that one person body bag.

00:21:12.260 Can I read the headline of your latest essay on this subject, which is published on a commentary

00:21:19.360 website called Marion West?

00:21:20.800 Let me just read the title of it, and we'll show it for our viewers if they want to find

00:21:24.120 it and read it in detail.

00:21:26.380 It's an excellent title.

00:21:27.860 It's Feminists of the West. 1.00

00:21:30.860 Women are hurting in the Middle East. 0.99

00:21:33.900 And isn't that, doesn't that get straight to it?

00:21:36.580 Here in the West, feminists are worrying about man spreading on a subway. 1.00

00:21:40.300 Fellas who take up too much room, people are worried about mansplaining, and guys always 1.00

00:21:45.020 have their own control, and that, compared to the real feminist crises of the world, which 1.00

00:21:49.780 are in the East, am I right?

00:21:51.860 Absolutely, yeah.

00:21:54.240 What I'm saying in that article is really, I'm asking all of these feminists that are interested

00:22:03.320 in human rights and are interested in women's equality to imagine that they could reach back

00:22:10.300 200 years or so to suffragettes, to women that were fighting for their basic freedoms.

00:22:17.400 And I want them to know that those women exist today, that there are women in Saudi Arabia 0.71

00:22:24.020 today that are forced to cover their face.

00:22:26.620 And what those women are doing now is they're trying to fight back. 1.00

00:22:29.620 They are a very small minority, but they are trying to fight back.

00:22:33.080 And so what they'll do is they'll post videos on Twitter of themselves burning their naqab,

00:22:38.500 which is the face covering.

00:22:40.500 And in Iran, they are forced to cover their hair.

00:22:44.280 So they'll tie a hijab at the end of a stick, and they'll just wave it in the street in resistance 0.99

00:22:51.060 to this law.

00:22:52.380 And those women are being arrested. 1.00

00:22:54.020 And in Iraq, women are being killed. 0.68

00:22:57.540 In Pakistan, women are being killed.

00:22:59.280 Killed for what?

00:23:00.220 For posting pictures of themselves online with their faces uncovered and with their hair

00:23:05.800 uncovered.

00:23:06.660 So these women exist that just want their basic freedoms. 1.00

00:23:12.000 And instead of the people over here joining hands with those freedom fighters and helping

00:23:19.320 them and supporting them in their fight against this oppression, we end up doing the exact

00:23:25.200 opposite in the West.

00:23:27.140 Marks and Spencer, a department store in the United Kingdom, is selling hijabs for three-year-old

00:23:33.420 girls.

00:23:33.980 Oh, my God.

00:23:35.260 Yeah.

00:23:35.620 The gap.

00:23:35.940 Yeah, you're right.

00:23:37.220 I mean, it's reached a tipping point, and now a hijab is almost treated like a feminist 1.00

00:23:42.240 accoutrement.

00:23:44.820 It's cool to wear a hijab.

00:23:47.640 You know, I want to disagree very slightly with one thing you said.

00:23:51.000 You said, if we could talk to suffragettes a century ago, obviously there's a comparison 0.99

00:23:56.000 in that women in the West, even here in Canada, did not have full equality.

00:24:00.100 They didn't have the right to vote until about a century ago.

00:24:04.460 And that was wrong, and I'm glad it's changed.

00:24:07.220 But women had most other freedoms than they could walk in the streets, they could drive 1.00

00:24:12.180 a car, they could own property.

00:24:15.140 I grant you, there were some limits, but it's much worse than just going back in time a century.

00:24:20.680 This is going back in time a millennium.

00:24:23.360 I mean, the women in Saudi Arabia and Iran and these other places, frankly, the fact that

00:24:29.780 they must hide their face is a small humiliation and punishment compared to, for example, the

00:24:37.780 outrageous laws dealing with, I'm sorry to bring it up, but rape is that it takes, you 1.00

00:24:43.080 know, four witnesses to condemn a man, that a man's testimony was doubled out of a woman.

00:24:49.820 I mean, the niqab, the chador, the burqa is awful, but it is one of a suite of horrific 1.00

00:24:56.780 challenges.

00:24:57.900 I'm sorry, I didn't mean to go down that tangent, but the analogy is far, far worse than just

00:25:03.880 a young woman in Canada in 1905, let's say.

00:25:07.580 You're right.

00:25:08.060 But there is no other comparison in the West.

00:25:11.220 So what I'm trying to say is that these huge, there are big fights that we could be fighting

00:25:16.980 right now.

00:25:17.760 There are bigger fights than trying to figure out if air conditioning is sexist or not.

00:25:22.100 Like these women want big fights, but they are, they don't know where to look because 1.00

00:25:27.380 most of those big fights have already been won in the West.

00:25:31.340 And if they haven't been won, then there are already people working on them and willing to

00:25:36.240 help women that are trying to, to make themselves equal members of society.

00:25:40.540 But my point here is that these women are acting like they want equality and they want 1.00

00:25:47.800 freedom for women, but instead of helping the women that are fighting for their freedoms, 0.95

00:25:54.580 they are hindering them.

00:25:56.520 Because when you put a hijab on Barbie, who is supposed to be an icon of femininity and 1.00

00:26:02.960 feminism, when you put a hijab in gap ads, when you put a hijab on every flat surface, 1.00

00:26:10.980 what you're doing is you are supporting the conservative fundamentalist Muslims that these 0.70

00:26:18.460 brave women are fighting against and losing their lives to, to fight against these oppressive

00:26:25.520 regimes.

00:26:26.020 And then us here in the West, where we should be supporting these women, we're actively supporting

00:26:32.780 their oppressors.

00:26:34.680 You know, I, I think there's an obvious reason why.

00:26:37.620 And I think it's feminists, especially white liberal feminists are brave when it comes to 1.00

00:26:44.460 taking on white male oppressors, except for there's just not that many white male oppressors,

00:26:49.180 as you say.

00:26:49.760 I mean, if you're going after man, man spreading or air conditioning is sexist because guys like

00:26:54.540 to be cooler than gals or whatever the thesis is, that's easy. 0.97

00:26:58.380 But to take on Muslim men who are abusing Muslim women, that's my view, is that it's a, it's 0.98

00:27:07.940 a gender apartheid culture where men put women in these, in these one person body bags. 0.98

00:27:14.340 That is terrifying to a white liberal woman who is terrified of being called racist, who's 0.98

00:27:20.640 terrified of being racist, terrified of being, you know, ethnocentric, terrified of, you know,

00:27:27.860 there's a lot of things that scare these white liberal feminist women. 1.00

00:27:33.080 And so they'll just go, you know, argue over trivia in the West, rather than stand in solidarity

00:27:39.580 with Iran, Saudi Arabia, and these other countries.

00:27:41.380 I think they just don't want to be called racist.

00:27:42.780 And they lack the courage that they should have.

00:27:44.760 That's my view.

00:27:45.240 I think you're absolutely correct.

00:27:47.820 And everything that you've said, like how terrified they would be and how much courage

00:27:52.020 it requires, that's true for the women over there too. 1.00

00:27:55.160 In fact, it's more true for the women over there because they could actually be killed 0.56

00:27:59.160 for it.

00:27:59.840 So if you're here in the free West and you're, and you want to call yourself a feminist, 1.00

00:28:04.380 but you're too scared to take on feminist fights, then I don't know if you should be calling 1.00

00:28:10.480 yourself a feminist. 1.00

00:28:11.820 That's a great point.

00:28:12.700 I mean, really, what's the worst that could happen to you?

00:28:14.600 Someone falsely calls you racist and you can say, no, I'm not racist.

00:28:18.680 I support Muslim women.

00:28:20.820 I support women of color, if you want to use that phrase.

00:28:23.540 I mean, what's the worst thing that would happen to you if you're a liberal white feminist 1.00

00:28:27.660 in Brooklyn, New York, who says, I support women in Iran and Saudi Arabia.

00:28:33.080 What's the worst that could happen?

00:28:34.500 Someone calls you a mean name on Twitter, but that's the level of lack of commitment.

00:28:39.980 It's incredible.

00:28:40.520 I want to ask you, though, and I appreciate your time.

00:28:43.000 It's great to see you again and to see your face and to see your eyes.

00:28:47.680 Since we've last, since we spoke to you last time, you have had some success in making allies

00:28:54.840 and making a coalition.

00:28:56.300 It looks to me, at least as an outsider who follows you, that you're making allies and

00:29:03.420 maybe you're having a bit of an impact and your story is being heard.

00:29:06.420 Can you give our viewers, especially those who watched that first autobiographical interview

00:29:11.900 we did with you, can you tell us what you've been up to lately and if there's any projects

00:29:16.060 you're working on?

00:29:16.640 I'll mention your book in a second.

00:29:17.820 But can you tell me what else you've been up to?

00:29:19.740 Because I know this has really become a cause for you.

00:29:23.140 Yeah, I've been very lucky.

00:29:24.780 I was just recently invited to Harvard to speak for the Students for Liberty.

00:29:28.780 And now I have a partnership with Women's March for All, who are the women's march group that

00:29:37.260 started up to counter the other women's march group that had a hijab and a Sharia-supporting 0.97

00:29:43.900 Islamist leading their women's march.

00:29:47.020 So obviously, that was problematic.

00:29:50.080 So a new women's march has started up and I'm partnered with them.

00:29:54.060 And yeah, I've been very lucky that there are a lot of people that, like you said at

00:29:59.960 the beginning of this interview, you have to just know that these things are wrong.

00:30:04.900 I mean, I'm not saying anything that is outrageous or out of the ordinary.

00:30:09.880 These are normal human being reactions.

00:30:12.460 Of course, when you see somebody covered in a black cloth, you know that that must not be

00:30:18.960 good for the person that's hidden inside of there.

00:30:21.300 And it's not good for the rest of society either.

00:30:24.380 I mean, for all of the reasons you mentioned, but then also safety concerns as well.

00:30:29.720 So in the Muslim world, what is very common is there are a lot of thefts and rapes and

00:30:35.220 kidnappings and even a suicide bombing done by people wearing niqab and, you know, trying 1.00

00:30:41.880 to hide their identity.

00:30:43.660 Incredible.

00:30:44.620 Well, I'm very glad to.

00:30:45.960 I did not know there was something called the Women's March for All.

00:30:48.580 And I'm delighted to learn that it's in counter position to Linda Sarsour, who was part of

00:30:54.660 the first Women's March.

00:30:55.680 And our viewers will know that we've been following that file when she came to Canada

00:30:59.320 a few weeks ago.

00:31:00.060 So I'm delighted that you're involved.

00:31:01.420 I'm going to keep my eyes peeled for what Women's March for All does, because I'm very

00:31:04.380 curious.

00:31:05.000 I'm thrilled that you're at Harvard.

00:31:06.140 I also seem to recall you were doing some things with Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who's also just

00:31:11.220 outstanding.

00:31:12.700 And before we turn the cameras on, you said that your new book will be out in 2019 called

00:31:18.420 The Girl Who Would Not Submit.

00:31:21.380 I think that's a great title.

00:31:22.720 Now, of course, submit.

00:31:23.840 That's actually one of the proper definitions of the word Islam, right?

00:31:29.220 Does that mean submission in Arabic?

00:31:32.280 Absolutely.

00:31:32.720 Yep, you're correct.

00:31:34.100 So that's a little bit of a sort of a hint in there for people that are in the know that,

00:31:40.680 yeah, that's what it is.

00:31:41.840 Islam is, mm-hmm. 1.00

00:31:43.900 The Girl Who Would Not Submit.

00:31:45.120 Well, we certainly look forward to that.

00:31:46.300 And when that book is ready for us to promote, when it's on Amazon or another website that we

00:31:51.040 can tell our viewers about, I know you're still putting the finishing touches on it with

00:31:54.340 your publisher.

00:31:55.120 Let us know, because that is very interesting to us.

00:31:57.900 And I know a lot of our viewers really started to wake up to these subjects when we started

00:32:04.400 to work with Raheel Raza at the Sun News Network.

00:32:07.900 And she's amazing.

00:32:08.760 And I look forward to working with you to get the word out about your project.

00:32:14.000 So congrats on what you've been up to.

00:32:15.980 Great to see you again.

00:32:16.840 Thanks for weighing in on the burqa and these other things.

00:32:19.620 And let's not let so much time pass until we have you back on the show again.

00:32:24.300 Thank you so much, Ezra.

00:32:25.560 Talk to you soon.

00:32:26.220 All right.

00:32:26.580 What a pleasure.

00:32:27.140 There you have it, Yasmin Mohamed.

00:32:29.080 Follow her on Twitter.

00:32:30.500 And of course, when her book is ready, we'll let you know about that.

00:32:33.640 And if we see other op-eds by her, we'll also take the opportunity to bring her back.

00:32:38.080 Stay with us.

00:32:39.060 More Ahead on the Rebel.

00:32:39.820 Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about the left pretending to care about the

00:32:54.840 handmaid's tale coming true.

00:32:56.860 Well, Dawn writes, Atwood admitted she actually based her dystopian novel on the Iranian theocracy.

00:33:03.340 What she didn't say, but what can easily be surmised, is that she did not have the courage

00:33:06.980 to criticize Islam, so she went the coward's route and opted to criticize Christianity instead.

00:33:12.340 Margaret Atwood, our hero.

00:33:14.260 You know, I thought about that quite a bit, and I've talked about this in earlier shows

00:33:18.400 here and at the Sun News Network.

00:33:21.240 In 1984, which is 1985, around then, which is when Atwood wrote this, I don't think that

00:33:26.560 was when you were afraid to criticize Islam.

00:33:29.460 I don't think the Salman Rushdie thing was for a couple years, for example.

00:33:32.460 So I don't think fear of radical Islam was a big deal in the West in the mid-80s.

00:33:40.440 I mean, yeah, there was terrorism in Libya and Lebanon and things like that, and some

00:33:45.480 airplanes were hijacked, but it wasn't a domestic threat.

00:33:51.140 Really, Muslim terrorism in North America was pretty much unheard of.

00:33:55.480 So I don't think it was fear of Islam, and I don't even think it was fear of being called

00:34:02.520 Islamophobic.

00:34:03.380 That word hadn't even been coined yet.

00:34:05.560 I think it was more hatred, a self-hatred, just the same way all the leftist elites backed

00:34:16.260 the Soviets in the Cold War against their own country.

00:34:19.020 I think Margaret Atwood backed Iran or the other against their own country.

00:34:24.640 I don't think Margaret Atwood really understood Islam, other than it put women in bags. 1.00

00:34:30.880 I don't think she was afraid of Islam.

00:34:32.980 It was too alien and too far away.

00:34:35.160 I think it was just, like the Soviets, a threat to capitalist, free, Western, Christian 1.00

00:34:42.080 America.

00:34:43.360 And she knew she hated that, so she'd back whoever the rival was.

00:34:47.280 That's my theory.

00:34:49.020 Liza writes, if I wanted to see women covered and oppressed this way, I would live in Islamic 1.00

00:34:53.900 country.

00:34:54.840 Canada must not give an inch to Sharia. 1.00

00:34:57.420 Well, I think we've given more than an inch already, would you not say?

00:35:02.320 Not as much as in the United Kingdom or Europe, but I think we've given more than an inch.

00:35:08.020 Today we talked with Yasmin Mohammed.

00:35:09.580 By the way, as you know, there have been lawsuits successful that women are allowed to wear full-face 0.99

00:35:17.000 obscuring niqabs in citizenship court. 1.00

00:35:20.000 And there have been attempts to have it allowed in regular court, too.

00:35:23.360 I'll tell you one thing.

00:35:24.560 If I was on trial as a criminal accused, God forbid, may it never happen, and some accuser

00:35:30.900 was wearing a full-face obscuring niqab, and she was the accuser, and I couldn't look my 0.79

00:35:36.260 accuser in the eye, and the judge couldn't look my accuser in the eye when I was being

00:35:40.380 accused of a crime by someone wearing a mask, I would walk right out of that court.

00:35:44.360 I would walk right out of that court.

00:35:46.060 May it never happen.

00:35:46.760 On the interview with Joel Pollack, Cam writes,

00:35:51.120 you referenced the Unabomber as an environmental extremist and leftist.

00:35:54.560 I just wanted to push back a bit on your assertion.

00:35:56.540 He was certainly motivated by the destruction of the environment, especially being triggered

00:36:00.400 by his favorite spot in nature being destroyed by industry.

00:36:03.820 But if you read into his manifesto, it's apparently clear he was not motivated by any left-wing

00:36:08.360 ideology, but in fact, his critic of society was against leftism.

00:36:13.340 Okay, well, I haven't read the Unabomber's rants at length, so I just don't know what

00:36:19.140 to make of your criticism, but I'm happy to air it.

00:36:22.040 I know that there is a kind of sentimental anti-industry philosophy.

00:36:30.840 Roger Scruton has a little bit of it.

00:36:33.280 J.R.R. Tolkien has some of it.

00:36:36.620 You can see it in The Lord of the Rings.

00:36:39.740 Sometimes he laments the passing of the nature and, you know, the big trees were allies and

00:36:46.340 the smoggy mines were the enemies.

00:36:49.120 It goes all the way back to Ned Ludd and Luddism and the psychological cultural crisis brought

00:36:57.680 about by the Industrial Revolution where people were dislocated.

00:37:01.600 You had hundreds of people doing menial tasks.

00:37:03.760 And then a machine would come along and do what 100 people used to do and they were uprooted.

00:37:10.280 And some of these craftsmen had been, you know, I mean, the loom, the mechanical loom.

00:37:15.600 How many generations, how many centuries did craftsmen make things by hand one at a time?

00:37:22.720 And then a machine comes along and improves the economy and creates prosperity and plenty.

00:37:30.180 And now it's not just the aristocracy who can afford socks and everyone else has like one

00:37:36.840 pair of socks.

00:37:37.740 Now everyone can have a pair of socks.

00:37:39.320 That's wonderful for prosperity and lifting us all out of sheer poverty.

00:37:42.700 But it's very dislocating to people who were replaced by machines.

00:37:45.880 And of course, it happened the same on the farms.

00:37:48.160 And, you know, so, yeah, there has been a kind of sentimental conservatist Luddism.

00:37:55.220 And you can feel it even now.

00:37:58.300 I mean, look, I am a bit, I'm not a Luddite when it comes to technology.

00:38:02.360 A Luddite implies someone who refuses to use it.

00:38:05.220 But I also acknowledge, even today, as our traditional customs of privacy and alone time

00:38:13.020 are being destroyed by the technology of our era, and I find it dislocating, and maybe

00:38:17.660 you do too.

00:38:18.220 Well, imagine what it was like in the Industrial Revolution.

00:38:20.560 You know there was a point in time.

00:38:21.560 Let me close on this, on this letter.

00:38:23.560 Here, I got one more letter.

00:38:26.540 When the British Army had more soldiers deployed to protecting factories that were being torched

00:38:33.960 and destroyed by Luddites than they had to defending against Napoleon. 0.91

00:38:38.800 It was like a countrywide riot.

00:38:40.940 What do you think of that?

00:38:41.840 Factoid.

00:38:42.920 All right, Mike writes, I want to say how thankful and supportive I am of the whole rebel team.

00:38:47.220 You guys are a voice for the silent majority.

00:38:49.240 My idea for a 10-minute blurb would be on the shootings and attacks on our service members

00:38:52.980 and society in the last year or two, and the common occurrence on race and religion we

00:38:56.720 keep seeing on the daily, the location of these crimes are recurring, and whether or

00:39:02.420 not they are born Canadian citizens.

00:39:03.760 I trust your journalism more than anything else these days.

00:39:06.040 I'll be honest with you, I don't know exactly what you're referring to.

00:39:10.840 Maybe you're talking about the crime spree, the shooting, stabbing spree in Toronto.

00:39:15.620 I think that might be what you mean.

00:39:17.720 And yeah, I think we could do more coverage of that.

00:39:19.440 I mean, we have limited people, resources, but it's a good idea.

00:39:27.300 So I think that's what you mean there.

00:39:29.980 I thought at first you were referring to some of our coverage in the United Kingdom, which

00:39:36.060 we were almost alone on that.

00:39:38.220 We brought some reporters along with us.

00:39:40.020 This time, Candace Malcolm, Andrew Lawton, Avi Amini from Australia, Cassandra Fairbanks

00:39:44.940 from Washington, D.C.

00:39:46.340 So I feel like the rebel led the charge there, and I know that's the United Kingdom, and people

00:39:49.620 say you've got to focus more on Canada, and I agree, but occasionally there are huge stories

00:39:53.900 overseas that impact us, and in this case are a premonition of what's to come for us if

00:40:00.280 we don't change our course.

00:40:02.440 By the way, if you want to see more from the UK, go to TommyTrial.com.

00:40:07.160 That's where all my reports are.

00:40:08.800 Well, that's the end of a very busy week.

00:40:10.540 It felt like a successful week.

00:40:11.780 I know I was away for two days, but thanks to my colleagues for filling in for me.

00:40:15.520 I have no plans to go anywhere just yet, but I should tell you, if you are in Alberta

00:40:21.260 or close to it, why not go to TheRebelLive.com?

00:40:27.220 TheRebelLive.com, because on Saturday, November 10th, we're all coming to Calvary.

00:40:32.600 We've done The Rebel Live in Toronto a few times.

00:40:35.200 It's been great.

00:40:36.180 We're going to have about 500 folks, maybe more.

00:40:38.480 I don't know how many the building can hold.

00:40:40.080 We got keynote speakers on a range of subjects.

00:40:43.080 The Oil Sands, Notley, Lindsay Shepard on free speech.

00:40:47.940 We invited both Andrew Scheer and Maxime Bernier to come give a talk.

00:40:51.940 Bernier's accepted.

00:40:53.000 Haven't heard back yet from Scheer.

00:40:54.520 I'm pessimistic.

00:40:56.080 But why don't you come on down and say hi.

00:40:58.300 We'll have Sheila Gunn-Reed. 0.99

00:40:59.700 Sorry.

00:40:59.880 Oh, you know what?

00:41:00.820 I want to tell you a sneak preview.

00:41:02.320 We haven't announced this yet.

00:41:03.580 Are you ready?

00:41:04.060 It's a secret.

00:41:05.780 Katie Hopkins is coming.

00:41:07.340 Whoa.

00:41:07.680 Yeah, we haven't even announced that yet.

00:41:09.960 You're the first to learn.

00:41:11.760 Until Monday, keep watching our videos on the YouTube side.

00:41:15.580 On behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, to you at home, good night, and

00:41:19.700 keep fighting for freedom.

00:41:20.540 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - October 27, 2018

US Democrats smear oilsands with nuisance lawsuit. Don’t count on Trudeau or Notley to defend us.

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