US election： I’ve heard of sore losers. But sore winners？
Summary
Biden Takes the Lead in the Vote Count, and the Reaction from the Media and the Left Ezra Levant takes a look at how the media and the left are handling the result and how they are coping, and what they should do next.
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Hello, my Rebels. Today, I go through some of the media reaction and political reaction to
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Biden taking the lead in the vote count. He's not the president-elect yet,
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and I want to make that clear, and I do so in the video. But I go through how some of the
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Democrats and some of the media are handling their joy and their rage and their coping and
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their excitement. Let me invite you to listen to that, but before I do, let me invite you to
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got some good clips for you today. All right, here's today's show.
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Tonight, I've heard of sore losers, but sore winners? It's November 9th, and this is the Ezra Levant Show.
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Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
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There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
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The only thing I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my
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In the days before the election, we saw lots of reports of storekeepers around America boarding up
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their stores, protecting their plate glass windows in anticipation of riots.
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Can it be a little bit more accurate, though? There were storekeepers in Democrat-run cities like
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New York and Washington, D.C. Those were the places that were boarding up their stores. Places
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where riots are politically acceptable. Places where Democrats throw riot tantrums if they don't get
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their way, and Democrat politicians allow it. But I get it. The Democrats had a summer of street
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riots. What if the election result were so close, and their guy just barely lost, and thought it was
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unfair? What if the final conclusive results weren't clear, and the country was in the state of limbo?
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Of course, that's exactly what happened, except that it's 70 million Republicans who feel cheated.
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70 million. But everyone knows they don't riot. They just don't. There just hasn't been any riots.
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So the shopkeepers know it's safe to take down the boards. And the media knows it's safe, too.
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They were hoping for riots if the Republican won. I mean, these were the folks who talked about mostly
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Christine, Laura, what you're seeing behind me is one of multiple locations that have been burning in
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Kenosha, Wisconsin, over the course of the night. A second night since Jacob Blake was seen shot in the
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back seven times by a police officer. And what you are seeing now, these images came and come in stark contrast
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to what we saw over the course of the daytime hours in Kenosha and into the early evening, which were
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largely peaceful demonstrations in the face of law enforcement.
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I saw Gerald Butz's new boss, Ian Bremmer, the guy who gave him a soft landing in New York
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after Butz was kicked out of Trudeau's office in disgrace. He wrote,
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Now is the time for every Biden supporter to reach out to one person who voted for Trump.
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Empathize with them. Tell them you know how they feel. You do from 2016.
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Come up with one issue you can agree on. Thanks, Dad.
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Now, I actually don't think Ian Bremmer knows anyone who voted for Trump.
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He doesn't know them well, at least. I mean, he probably has a name or two in his Rolodex. But
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I don't think he has any conservative friends. It's like that book I told you about the other day,
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Coming Apart, by Charles Murray, that talks about the great divide in America. Do you know anyone who
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is an evangelical Christian? Are you friends with someone with whom you vigorously disagree about
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substantive things? Have you ever been on a factory floor? Have you ever lived in a small town for a
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year or more that wasn't a college town, etc.? You're not evil if the answer to all that is no. You're just
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disconnected from the other half, from the 70 million people who voted for Trump and do not
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feel like Hillary Clinton supporters. Hillary Clinton supporters were upset because their
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candidate and their party lost in 2016. It's true. That is upsetting. But that happens to half the
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country every election. That is normal. That's the feeling of losing. Trump voters are feeling
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something more than losing. They're feeling something being stolen. If you lose your wallet,
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if you drop it, if you left it somewhere, if you misplace it, you're frustrated and you're upset.
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But if you didn't lose it, if it was actually stolen from you, that is a completely different
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feeling. A stolen wallet is a grievous offense against you. It's morally unacceptable to you. You
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need justice. Losing a wallet is your own foolishness. Maybe you blame yourself, but having it stolen,
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that is unjust. And look, that's just a wallet. A few dollars, some ID cards. More hassle than
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anything but losing an election. A momentous election. Not losing, having it stolen. Hillary
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Clinton could never claim it was stolen from her. I mean, she lost Wisconsin. She did misplace it. She
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never campaigned there in the general election. I mean, sure, she claimed Russia stole it from her,
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but there was never any evidence of that. It was obvious she never really meant it and neither did
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her party and neither did the media. It was just a way of her avoiding responsibility. It was a way
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of her attacking Donald Trump with her own sins. She sold the Secretary of State's job to the
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pie's bidder. The Clinton Foundation is taking tens of millions of dollars from foreign countries.
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Donald Trump didn't raise foreign money for his campaign. He wasn't submissive to foreign powers.
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The Democrats are clever enough to accuse their opponents of their own sins.
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And if you're trying to convince 70 million Americans that the election was not, in fact,
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rigged, I can think of nothing more counterproductive than to censor any legitimate questions about the
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election and its fairness. Yet look online. Look at how Twitter, for example, censors Trump's tweets
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about the election and its anomalies and its legal recounts. They're censoring more than half his
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comments. Are you trying to convince people it wasn't rigged by interfering with legitimate
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questions about the rigging? By telling the president what he can or can't say about his own campaign?
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It's insane. It's madness. Yeah, sorry, Ian, but your very question shows you have no clue.
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But it wasn't about reaching out. It was about showing his own tribe how magnanimous he is. Do you think
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he knows a single MAGA hat wearing American? I know he mocks those in flyover country.
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Here's a Twitter exchange between him and Gerald Butts making fun of Republicans as, you know,
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really terrorists, American ISIS or whatever. So, you know, he's just lying. But they weren't lying
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about how excited they were. The neutral people, the reporters, you can count on these reporters
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not to lie about the facts. But, you know, they just let it slip here, right? Here's Don Lemon.
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No longer do we have to live under people who pretending that up is not up and down is not down,
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that one plus one doesn't equal two. And so I can't help but be emotional at this moment. I'm not
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quite sure what I'm going to say. So forgive me. I may not say all the right things tonight.
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I am very emotional. And guess what? I am speaking for everyone. But I got to tell you,
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when I watched that black woman come out on stage tonight and I saw all of those people from of all
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ages and all different backgrounds and the whole entire theme was everyone is welcome under this
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tent. We don't care who you are. We don't care if you voted for us or not. You're all part of this
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American experiment. It was I was so overwhelmed to hear that. I don't care what people think. If they
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think I'm biased or not, I don't care because I'm not a Democrat. I'm not a Republican. I'm not a
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conservative. I'm not I'm not a liberal. I am an American. And we all deserve to be able to live
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in this country and have respect. And what this administration and what this president doesn't
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do, they do not respect people or anyone who doesn't believe what they believe. And so I'm very
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emotional. So when you ask me how I'm feeling right now, I'm sorry. That's all I can tell you.
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This is how I feel right now. I am so happy to have this platform to be able to do this. I may not
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have it after this, but I really don't care. I am so happy to live in a country that has an
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administration that is going to go in regardless. I'm going to challenge them on their policies.
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I'm going to hold them to account. But when you say we're all welcome and we're all equal in this
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country, amen, I'm in on that. Yeah, Don, it's been really hard, really tough, earning millions
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of dollars a year to sneer at people. I know you were the victim. It was really hard. Look at him
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here with the Lincoln Project, folks. University. Right. Also, he doesn't really say that she
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couldn't identify Ukraine on a map. He insinuates it's just a petty attempt to put her down, right?
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Is that what this is? Of course. Of course. He's just trying to demean her. And obviously,
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it's false. And look, he also knows deep in his heart that Donald Trump couldn't find Ukraine on
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a map if you had the letter U and a picture of an actual physical crane next to it. He knows that
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this is an administration defined by ignorance of the world. And so that's partly him playing to
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their base and playing to their audience. You know, the credulous boomer rube demo that backs
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Donald Trump that wants to think that Donald Trump's a smart one in there. Oh, y'all elitist
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or dumb. You elitist with your geography and your maps and your spelling, even though my math and
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you're reading. Yeah, you're reading, you know, your geography, knowing other countries, sipping
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your latte. All those lines on the map. Only them elitists know where Ukraine is.
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Sorry, I apologize. But it was Rick's fault. I blame Rick.
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But in all honesty, you know what NPR should do? Sorry, hold on. Wait, wait. Can I tell you a second?
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Hold on, hold on, hold on. Sorry. That was good. Sorry. Rick, that was a good one. I needed that.
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Okay, so listen. Yeah, thank God you don't have to worry about Trump making fun of you anymore.
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Phew, you dodged the bullet. Here's a mashup of neutral reporters and honest dealers.
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Character matters. Character matters. It matters. Telling the truth matters. Being a good person
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matters. I don't know why I'm crying so much, but what got me choked up was the picture of
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the cab driver. And so I'm very emotional. So when you ask me how I'm feeling right now,
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I'm sorry. That's all I can tell you. This is how I feel right now. Nobody knows what it feels like
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as a black man to be able to speak in this moment.
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If you're an immigrant, you don't have to worry if the president's going to be happier to have
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babies snatched away or send dreamers back for no reason.
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Me too. I started crying again when I heard the bell from Paris. I keep crying. I'm going to cry
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now. Go away from me. You're going to make me cry.
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We don't care who you are. We don't care if you voted for us or not.
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Look, they tell you how much they love Biden, how much they hate Trump. How can you be sure that
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they're reporting 100% accurately on the vote recounts? Here's the CBC. They spent all day crying
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how wonderful it is to have Harris and Biden. They're tears of joy, I mean. She'll go back to
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being a neutral reporter right away. You bet she will. It's not even conceivable that a CBC reporter
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would ever say those sorts of things about Stephen Harper or Jason Kennedy, that they were crying tears
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of joy. It's just impossible, like other left-wing world leaders. Justin Trudeau was quick to
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congratulate Biden on his win. Trudeau won't even say the word Trump in press conferences now. He always
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hated Trump. Fair enough. I think Harper hated Obama and vice versa, but they were both growing up
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enough to have worked together. Imagine all the opportunities that were wasted because Trudeau
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couldn't get over himself. But we shouldn't go too fast. There was no President Dewey, despite what
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the newspaper said. There was no President Gore, even though he fought for a recount for more than a
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month. It hasn't even been a week for Trump, but the media has already moved on. I think the odds are
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with Biden. It's harder to unrig an election than it is to rig it. And judges are naturally loath to
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overturn an election, let alone a whole national presidential election. But who knows? I mean,
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Joe Biden has been around for 50 years. And you know what they say? Friends come and go, but enemies
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Anybody who runs for the Supreme Court or is appointed to the Supreme Court to be more precise
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should understand. I have not made my judgment based upon this proceeding because we have not heard
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all the evidence. As a black American, as far as I'm concerned, it is a high-tech lynching for uppity
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blacks who in any way deign to think for themselves. That's Clarence Thomas. He's on the Supreme Court
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now. Here's a couple more you might remember. So I'm going to ask you one last time. Are you willing
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to ask the White House to authorize the FBI to investigate the claims that have been made against
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you? Well, I'll do whatever the committee wants, of course. And I've heard you say that, but I've
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not heard you answer a very specific question that's been asked, which is, are you willing
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to ask the White House to conduct an investigation by the FBI to get to whatever you believe is the
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bottom of the allegations that have been levied against you? The FBI would gather witness statements.
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You have the witness statements. I don't want to debate with you how they do their business. I'm
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just asking, are you willing to ask the White House to conduct such an investigation? Because
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as you are aware, the FBI did conduct a background investigation into you before we were aware of
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these most recent allegations. So are you willing to ask the White House to do that? And say yes or
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no, and then we can move on. We've had six background investigations over 26 years.
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As it relates to the recent allegations, are you willing to have them do it?
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The witness testimony is before you, no witness who was there supports that I was there.
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Okay, I'm going to take that as a no and we can move on. To both be friends with some women
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and treat other women badly. Did you watch Dr. Ford's testimony?
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I did not. I planned to. I planned to. I planned to, but I did not. I was preparing mine.
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That's Brett Kavanaugh. He's on the Supreme Court now. And then there's Amy Coney Barrett.
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To ensure the fitness of nominees for a lifetime appointment to the federal bench or to any of the
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other positions for any of the committees on which they appear. I ask each nominee these two
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questions and I will ask them of you. Since you became a legal adult, have you ever made unwanted
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requests for sexual favors or committed any verbal or physical harassment or assault of a sexual nature?
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Have you ever faced discipline or entered into a settlement related to this kind of conduct?
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She's on the Supreme Court. Now, I'm not saying these three judges will take their vengeance
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on the Democrats. I think they're above that. I think they're better people.
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I'm just saying Biden is not yet the president-elect. Despite what the CBC says, the Electoral College
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chooses the president. They haven't chosen yet. There are various states with serious lawsuits afoot.
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It's not up to Trudeau or Ian Bremmer or Michelle Obama or Stephen King or the CBC to decide.
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It's up to Americans through their constitution. As our friend Joel Pollack put it,
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Donald Trump got more people to the polls than anyone in history.
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Joe Biden got more envelopes to the polls than anyone in history. Trouble is,
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envelopes are what was counted. If I were Joe Biden, I'd sure be hoping that none of those
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envelopes would be rejected by Clarence Thomas, Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barrett. Trudeau would
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hope, well, he'd probably have the same hope, I think, if he even knew what I was talking about.
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Stay with us for more as we talk to Gordon Chang about China's reaction.
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Welcome back. Well, even though the Electoral College has yet to formally select the next
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president, the world sees that Joe Biden has the lead in terms of the vote count, and he's
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certainly acting like he won. Now, some countries like Mexico and Russia have refrained from congratulating
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Biden, pointing out that it is not yet final. Other countries couldn't be more delighted. We've
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seen Iran make statements of delight, not so much that Biden is back, but that Trump is gone. We've
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also seen that from Venezuela. And what about China, the most important geopolitical military rival
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to the United States? What have they said? Are they waiting? Not at all. They are cheering and
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celebrating. Joining us now to go through some of their public statements is our friend Gordon G.
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Chang, the author of The Coming Collapse of China. You can find a link to that on Amazon below this
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video. Gordon, it's great to see you. China has this wolf, this lone wolf, this aggressive,
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combative style of diplomacy. They have not been very diplomatic in the last few days, have they?
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They're dunking on Trump, aren't they? Yes. The Global Times, which is controlled by the Communist
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Party's People's Daily, has actually gone after Trump. The most interesting thing that they've said
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in the last 48 hours is that they're concerned about what they call the final madness of the Trump
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administration. In other words, last minute actions meant to make sure that President Biden is not able
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to reverse Trump's China policies. So there has actually been quite a lot of commentary in the
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Global Times and other media. Interestingly, Ezra, the foreign ministry, which is official, has yet to say
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anything. So they've sidestepped questions about congratulating Biden on his victory. And that is,
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to me, a mystery. That is very interesting because, of course, there is no free and independent press
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in China. The Global Times, which you mentioned, is an English language media that is really the
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unofficial voice of the Communist Party. We have a tweet from Global Times. I'd like to put that on the
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screen just for a second. In his last 70 days in the White House, Donald Trump has no resources to
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allow him to stir up trouble. As Chinese experts suggest, he won't be able to provoke military
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conflicts with China. But surprises could rear up, such as a ban on WeChat and TikTok. It's interesting
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that that's what they're worried about. I wonder what other things they could do. They could
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declare certain diplomats' persona non grata. They could do agreements with Taiwan. What are some
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of the things that Trump could do in the next two months to cement his China policy that would be
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tough for Biden to undo? Well, I think that a couple things. So, for instance, the Justice
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Department could declare China's Communist Party to be a transnational criminal organization
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and maybe even prosecuted under the RICO statute. Racketeer influence corrupt organizations.
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That would be difficult because, essentially, for Biden, he'd then have to come into office and say,
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no, I'm not prosecuting them for money laundering or selling fentanyl or whatever.
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With WeChat and with TikTok, I think those would also be difficult to undo, largely because,
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you know, once you unplug an app, it's going to be difficult for them to come back.
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Of course, though, there is the possibility of a deal with Oracle and Walmart. I don't think that
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deal will go through, Ezra, because the Communist Party doesn't want to give up control of the
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algorithm, which TikTok has been using to try to inflame American political opinion.
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And there are a number of chip bans that could be imposed on Huawei Technologies, the Chinese
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telecom equipment manufacturer. So there's a whole range of things that the Trump administration could
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do. And that would really put Biden in a predicament, should he try to undo those actions.
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You know, the comment by Global Times implies that Trump is a warmonger. In fact, I think the opposite is
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probably closer to the truth. In the last four years, he has started no new wars. He's built up
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America's military in terms of equipment, and he's got NATO to spend more. But I don't think he's been
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a provocateur. I don't think he's been looking for fights. He's brought some troops back. I think that
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might be Chinese paranoia or Chinese excuseology for their belligerence. I just don't see Trump doing
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anything dramatic on the military side. That's just not anything he's done. But could he do something
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on the intelligence side? I've seen calls in recent days for Trump to declassify anything ranging from
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the Russia collusion investigations to even declassifying things about Julian Assange. Do you
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think there's any information Trump could declassify that would shock Americans as to the degree to which
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the Chinese Communist Party is infiltrating academia, politics, fundraising? Because, you know,
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that's a bell that couldn't be unrung. If those secrets that I bet you the FBI and the CIA has,
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if Trump were just to make those public for the world to see, maybe that's something Trump could do.
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Yes. I mean, there's always been the suggestions, and we've heard these for the last couple months,
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about declassifying some of that information. And I think Trump could very well do that. And as you
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say, once it's out in the public domain, you can't reclassify it. So, yes, definitely, that's a
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possibility. And on your earlier point, yeah, Trump has not been warlike. He's been doing his best to
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avoid conflict with other nations. And so, you know, when China talks about Trump invading Taiwan,
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invading China or whatever, that's just ridiculous. That's just a projection of what the Chinese would
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do if the situations were reversed. Yeah, that's a very good observation.
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There are some countries, I told you some of the countries that are cheering for Joe Biden, but I think
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that there are countries that are a little bit scared right now. I think the three Arab countries
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that recently made peace with Israel might be worried that America is going to side with Iran again.
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And I think Taiwan has got to be near the top of the list because China has been so bellicose about
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Taiwan. And I don't know how strong the remaining Hong Kong democracy movement is. They've been
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crushed in a number of ways. Is there anything Trump could do or say or agreements or declarations
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it could make to give support to Taiwan and Hong Kong that might last longer than his next two months,
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assuming he is replaced by Joe Biden? I'm putting aside for a moment that there are lawsuits challenging
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the results. But is there anything Trump could do for Hong Kong and Taiwan that would persist beyond 70
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days? Yeah. With Hong Kong, he could actually start sanctioning banks that have commercial relations
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with individuals who have previously been sanctioned under the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act.
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And that, of course, would have lasting effect. On Taiwan, there's not much more that Trump can do. He's
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already approved some important arms sale packages. The Biden administration could always undo those,
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but it would take a big political costs for those types of actions. So, you know, I think that Taiwan
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is in a pretty good position right now, especially because across the aisle in the U.S., there is support
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for Taiwan. The one big question for Taiwan, though, is Biden has always viewed the island republic as a
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subset of China relations and so is willing to sort of bargain it away because he wants, for instance,
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you know, something else like climate change. So that is a risk. But it's a risk which I think that,
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you know, Taiwan's friends could be able to mitigate.
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Now, I have one last question. You're very generous with your time, Gordon. And by the way,
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if you're not following Gordon yet, please do. I learned so much about China from Gordon. He's at
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Gordon G. Chang on Twitter, and he's one of my handful of must follows. One of the things that I know
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has been of interest to a lot of people is Huawei. It really is a Chinese equivalent to Google in
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terms of its sophistication. In some ways, I think it's even ahead of Google in artificial intelligence
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and things like that. There are real and genuine concerns based on science and security worries about
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Huawei building the 5G systems of the West, the telecom, internet, phone, the deep infrastructure.
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Some of the countries in the world have said no Huawei. Canada is still on the fence.
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Are you at all worried that if Biden becomes president, that Huawei will be able to inject itself
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into Western infrastructure? Or has Biden, I don't know where he stands on Huawei. I know
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that Susan Rice, Obama's national security spokesman, was often against Huawei. So I'll give
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them credit for that. Do you know where Biden is on that question?
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He didn't talk about it at all. You know, there's a couple of issues with regard to Huawei. I mean,
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there's the clean network initiative of the State Department to make sure that countries don't buy
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equipment from Huawei and ZTE, which is another Chinese telecom equipment manufacturer.
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Also, you know, there's the issue of chip sales. And President Trump has actually progressively
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tightened down on chip sales to Huawei. I'm sure that's going to be at the top of Beijing's wish
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list when they talk to the new administration. I hope that this is one area where Biden will stand
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firm. And I think that he probably will, because he'd pay a big political price for giving in on chip
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sales. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see because, of course, in the last few weeks,
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as Hunter Biden's laptop became a story, at least for conservative media. Now, the mainstream media
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really didn't pick up that story. It'll be interesting if Biden feels gun shy about China
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issues because of that, or if he's brazen and saying, you know what, you didn't stop me before.
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I'm not going to hesitate now. I notice that Hunter Biden has made public appearances again.
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I guess we'll find out in the weeks ahead. Gordon, it's great to see you again. I know you're
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so busy. There's so much to cover, so we'll let you go. But thank you so much for bringing your
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wisdom to us, as you do so often. Well, thank you so much, Ezra. I really appreciate it.
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Right on. Well, it's our pleasure. There you have it. Gordon G. Chang on Twitter. You can buy his book,
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The Coming Collapse of China, at the Amazon link below this video. Stay with us. More ahead.
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Hey, welcome back to my monologue Friday on what happens if Trump loses. Bruce writes,
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if Trump loses, it's the end of civilization as we know it. America is the last frontier of freedom
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on planet Earth. George Soros will get his wish to turn the world into hell for the
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proles and heaven for the elites. You know, I think that Biden will probably manage to hold on
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to what he stole. You could see that the Republicans picked up a bunch of seats in the House,
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which shows that people aren't thrilled with Biden. What it turns on in so many ways, I think,
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is Georgia, where they have a runoff for the Senate. I think it's so important that the Senate be in the
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hands of the opposition to slow down and stop some of the more insane things of Joe Biden.
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If the Democrats grab Georgia, then I think it could be as bad as you say.
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David writes, if Trump is banned from Twitter, he and the new resistance will regroup on
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Parler, and Twitter will take the biggest hit in its history. Well, you know, we're on Parler. It's
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another social media. It's a little unwieldy if you like Twitter, but it'll come along.
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Trouble is, everything sits on a deeper structure, a deeper foundation on the internet. You've got a
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website, and it sits on a DNS server, and you need a PayPal or a bank. There's so many things,
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and it's all resting on, I don't know, some Amazon system underneath it. Unless you own your structure
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all the way down, and unless you've got a financial structure that can't be taken away by the credit
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card companies or PayPal or Stripe, you are vulnerable. Parler, just like Gab, just like
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any of the other media, are vulnerable to someone upon whom they rely for internet infrastructure.
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I don't even know the terminology. I just know that every website, every host is built on something
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else. You frankly need your own bank. You probably need your own country to truly be immune from
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censorship. Sean writes, he's already lost. Long live democracy, the PRC, and death to Alberta's
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oil and gas. Yeah, you know, that's certainly Joe Biden's view, and Rachel Notley's and Justin
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Trudeau's, they're all cheering for Joe Biden. Me, I think that, I think things are going to be tough
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for the next four years if Biden gets it. And if Trump can pull it under the fire, well, better board up
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those shops again. That's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at
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Rebel World Headquarters, you know, good night. Keep fighting for freedom.