Rebel News Podcast - March 19, 2021


“We Need to Save the Republic Soon”： InfoWars' Owen Shroyer


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In this episode of Bannedvideo, host Alex Blumberg sits down with a man who has been banned from social media for his views on the Trump impeachment process. They discuss what it's like being targeted by the mainstream media and how it's affected his life.

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00:00:00.000 You're listening to InfoWars.com and Banned.video.
00:00:22.540 You can also follow him on Gab at All I Do Is A Win.
00:00:25.180 Of course, Owen is famously banned from all of mainstream media.
00:00:29.560 Social media, mentioning him in a positive light on those platforms,
00:00:32.400 or even getting a photo with him, of course,
00:00:34.180 will result in a ban on most of those Facebook and Instagram.
00:00:37.580 Thanks for joining me, Owen.
00:00:38.900 Hopefully, we don't get banned for this.
00:00:41.740 Yes, just say something negative about me,
00:00:43.500 and then you should be in the clear for at least half an hour.
00:00:46.520 How does it feel, by the way, to basically be depersoned like that?
00:00:51.460 I mean, I know you guys predicted a lot of that was going to happen,
00:00:53.560 but can you really prepare for something like that?
00:00:55.440 Well, until you've actually experienced it,
00:00:59.400 it's hard to really portray what it's like.
00:01:02.160 I mean, one of the common things that happened,
00:01:04.760 it's kind of laughable at this point,
00:01:06.400 but people always send me their stuff.
00:01:08.240 Hey, share this on Facebook.
00:01:09.560 Share this on Twitter.
00:01:10.520 Please share this.
00:01:11.320 It's like, I have nothing.
00:01:13.260 And they keep sending it no matter what.
00:01:15.200 They're always saying, I need this Facebook post.
00:01:17.300 And it's like, I can't even get on there.
00:01:19.340 But that's just kind of the little things.
00:01:22.140 The bigger thing is, like, not having that platform,
00:01:25.880 especially once you're used to having that platform,
00:01:28.620 used to having that reach, whatever it was.
00:01:30.520 For some people, it's really large accounts.
00:01:32.380 For others, even if it's small, it's still there.
00:01:34.700 That's kind of like the more strange thing to it,
00:01:37.440 is having that voice just cut off.
00:01:39.460 And then you're not even allowed to be there.
00:01:40.760 It's like watching all your friends at a party
00:01:42.160 that you're not allowed to be at.
00:01:43.600 But quite frankly, it's almost, in a way, been a blessing.
00:01:47.100 I think it's probably more healthy for my mental health
00:01:51.080 not to be on there and tweeting and posting
00:01:53.380 and worrying about all the stuff that goes on there.
00:01:55.800 And also, because we were kind of on the first wave of the ban,
00:01:59.520 that kind of prepared us, I think, for this new era of censorship
00:02:04.080 so that we built our own platforms like Band.Video,
00:02:07.060 and we weren't reliant on the big tech platforms
00:02:10.360 like so many people are.
00:02:12.020 And then by the time they get their deplatforming,
00:02:15.420 they don't know what to do.
00:02:17.620 Yeah, and on the topic of the partisanship
00:02:21.840 that has been shown by most of these social...
00:02:23.940 All of them, I guess, you could say,
00:02:26.020 all these social media companies,
00:02:27.400 I want to dial back to some of your videos
00:02:29.500 and, you know, get your thoughts on how they stand with you now.
00:02:33.240 So one of them I want to throw back to first
00:02:34.780 is when you were arrested at the Capitol.
00:02:36.360 I think that was just over a year ago now.
00:02:39.100 And get your thoughts on how this reflects on politics in 2021.
00:02:42.860 So let's get to that clip.
00:02:43.800 So there you go.
00:02:45.600 There you go, ladies and gentlemen.
00:02:47.920 Another Trump supporter receives second-class citizen treatment.
00:02:52.320 Another conservative receives second-class citizen treatment.
00:02:55.160 Is that because you don't know the reason?
00:03:03.300 Leslie.
00:03:03.880 He's impeached already.
00:03:04.620 You don't know the reason, do you?
00:03:06.000 He's impeached already.
00:03:07.000 So I'm going to dominate them.
00:03:08.880 Let's dominate them. 1.00
00:03:09.460 So here's the truth about Trump's impeachment.
00:03:13.060 They're claiming that Trump's impeachment is for Ukrainian quid pro quo.
00:03:17.840 The only problem is Nancy Pelosi, 1.00
00:03:21.260 who advanced the articles of impeachment to the Senate,
00:03:24.000 admitted that they started this inquiry before Trump was even president.
00:03:29.500 So how can they impeach Trump for something he did as president?
00:03:34.100 You're in the way.
00:03:34.540 You're in the way.
00:03:35.840 So can you not touch my cameraman, please?
00:03:37.620 Here we go.
00:03:38.720 Here we go.
00:03:39.280 Yeah, let's get him going.
00:03:40.860 So here's the five minutes of hate.
00:03:42.500 They'll deny the reality that Nancy Pelosi admitted
00:03:45.800 that they started the impeachment process before Trump became president.
00:03:50.580 So how?
00:03:51.480 It's bullshit.
00:03:52.060 No, that's...
00:03:52.580 Sir, let me talk.
00:03:53.740 Would you like to talk?
00:03:54.780 What is Trump being impeached for?
00:03:56.640 Sir, I will talk to you.
00:03:57.640 I'll explain the truth.
00:03:58.560 Trump is being impeached for what?
00:04:01.700 Any article of impeachment.
00:04:03.280 No, no, what?
00:04:03.960 What are they bringing forward?
00:04:05.160 Why?
00:04:05.400 Why is he impeached?
00:04:06.460 No, no, why?
00:04:06.860 What was it?
00:04:09.200 Can anybody tell me why Trump was impeached?
00:04:11.680 Can anybody tell me why Trump was impeached?
00:04:13.700 So you got arrested for basically a silent protest just a day after a whole demonstration.
00:04:18.940 Can you explain what happened there?
00:04:20.140 Well, we were there, as you said, the day before.
00:04:23.960 This is at the U.S. Capitol building in January of 2020.
00:04:28.820 And this was actually a month after I was arrested for being in the impeachment hearings
00:04:35.880 and standing up and saying Trump was innocent.
00:04:38.240 So they already had a target on my back.
00:04:40.380 That is the D.C. Capitol Police.
00:04:42.200 I was I was I was even told that.
00:04:44.020 In fact, I mean, I was warned that I would be arrested that day.
00:04:47.700 And they did, of course, come after me and arrest me.
00:04:49.660 But because the day before, as you said, there was a large impeachment display or we'll say
00:04:56.040 protest, however you want to say it.
00:04:57.400 I guess they weren't classifying it as a protest, but it was about 30, 40 people.
00:05:01.460 They all had messages on their shirt.
00:05:03.320 They were standing in a line so that you could read the message.
00:05:06.140 They had a larger message.
00:05:07.040 And I came up that day and I simply said, oh, well, I'll go interview these people.
00:05:12.360 Hey, what is your demonstration?
00:05:13.600 Why should Trump be impeached?
00:05:15.000 And of course, none of them could answer the question.
00:05:16.940 Typical liberal Democrat protest fashion.
00:05:19.920 They're out there protesting, but can't answer a single question as to why.
00:05:23.520 And so then they dispersed and they all kind of went in their direction.
00:05:26.240 And then they got a private tour of the Capitol.
00:05:28.580 They just immediately, oh, Schroyer shows up.
00:05:30.440 They disperse.
00:05:30.960 They get a private tour of the Capitol after their impeachment display that they had going
00:05:34.860 on for hours.
00:05:35.640 They do it on the regular, actually.
00:05:37.780 At the time, they were regularly there.
00:05:39.560 So I showed up the next day and I said, well, I'll do my own demonstration, a one-man silent
00:05:43.700 demonstration.
00:05:44.620 I even had tape over my mouth that said censored on it.
00:05:48.300 And the Capitol Police came down and arrested me and say that it was an illegal demonstration.
00:05:54.220 And after that all happened, I mean, how did, did you reflect on any of the media coverage?
00:06:00.680 I remember watching at that time, it's just a protester arrested at the Capitol.
00:06:05.740 They know who you are, but they don't want to say it.
00:06:08.400 Is there anything to be said about how the media covered, covers something like that in
00:06:12.780 a completely partisan manner?
00:06:15.220 You know, honestly, other than InfoWars, I'm not even sure who did cover it because I was
00:06:20.040 in jail for, I think, 29 hours.
00:06:22.520 And then I immediately had to get out of jail and be to an airport within an hour and a
00:06:26.520 half.
00:06:27.440 And then it was like a three hour flight.
00:06:28.960 And then by the time I got home, so I don't, I didn't even see any media coverage of it.
00:06:32.800 I'm actually surprised any media did cover it.
00:06:35.660 Nobody ever reached out for comment or anything like that.
00:06:38.760 So, so yeah, I mean, it was such a long process for me just to get my feet back on the ground
00:06:43.920 after that, that I didn't even notice any media coverage and nobody ever reached out for
00:06:49.400 comment really that I can recall.
00:06:50.620 So after the whole, we're in 2021 now, after the whole Russia investigation, the way the
00:06:56.780 media treated people like you and the politicians and of certain cities, allowing Black Lives 0.99
00:07:02.740 Matter and Antifa and so forth to ravage the cities. 0.79
00:07:05.920 Do you think Republicans should sort of counter that, go do the same thing?
00:07:11.320 Can they even do that without the power?
00:07:13.100 Do you think that they should respond in kind like that?
00:07:15.200 I think that, you know, on one level, the, the average Republican doesn't like to run
00:07:21.700 dirty tricks and deceptive techniques like the Democrats do. 0.56
00:07:25.840 I mean, let's just be honest, that's, that's a Democrat party technique, whether it's faking
00:07:29.680 hate crimes like Jussie Smollett or, uh, you know, faking Russian collusion, like the
00:07:34.400 entire media and Democrat party did.
00:07:36.140 So for, for Republicans who I think get on that level that you're, you're talking about,
00:07:40.480 they, they, they look at themselves and they'd say, well, we'd have to start playing
00:07:43.420 these dirty games.
00:07:44.180 We'd have to be lying scoundrels, uh, you know, deceivers like the Democrats are.
00:07:48.320 And, and the average Republican just doesn't want to do that.
00:07:50.980 And I would say the average corrupt Republican just lets the Democrats get away with it.
00:07:55.620 Uh, or, or like a Mitch McConnell or something like he's never going to fight these people.
00:07:59.500 So I don't think that going to the lengths of the Democrats is the answer, but I think
00:08:04.900 being honest about what it is that they're doing and being more, uh, fierce in the, in the
00:08:10.600 pushback against it saying, Hey, look, you're, you're out here faking hate crimes and then
00:08:15.100 introducing critical race theory into our schools.
00:08:17.440 Like who's really causing racism in this, in this country right now, who's really adding
00:08:22.360 racism to the equation here.
00:08:24.480 And that's just one small example.
00:08:26.720 So I think it's more of a, it's, it's a pushback against the deceptions.
00:08:30.580 It's an acceptance of the reality that if, if Nancy Pelosi is up there talking or Chuck
00:08:35.060 Schumer's up there talking, they're probably lying to you and just calling it out.
00:08:38.420 I think that they're afraid of saying the wrong thing and, and having some negative story
00:08:42.880 printed.
00:08:43.320 That's, that's what they, that's the obstacle they need to leap, not playing the dirty tricks
00:08:47.540 of the Democrats, but leaping the hurdle of saying, Hey, I'm not going to be ashamed
00:08:50.820 of whatever I call this person or however I address this person, because they're the
00:08:55.360 liars, they're the crooks, they're the deceivers, not me. 0.66
00:08:58.100 I definitely agree on those points.
00:08:59.940 And right now it seems to me that Biden and a lot of the Democrats are basically pretending
00:09:05.260 states like Texas, Florida, Dakotas, they don't really exist.
00:09:09.180 How do you feel about the state of politics in the country?
00:09:12.100 And why do you think these lockdowns are being perpetuated as if, like I said, these other
00:09:17.220 states aren't open and don't exist?
00:09:20.420 Well, the lockdown theme is a worldwide theme.
00:09:24.840 And so I think that, that, that is dealing with something that goes beyond even, you know,
00:09:31.640 the local government, the state government, or even the federal government.
00:09:34.280 I mean, it's the CDC, I think for the most part, influencing that policy, maybe Fauci
00:09:39.860 at the NIH or whatever it is.
00:09:43.100 But I think that for states, when you look at Florida or you look at Texas or some of
00:09:48.700 the other ones that have stayed open, like a South Dakota, you know, that, that is something
00:09:52.720 that should be looked at.
00:09:53.740 You should be saying, Hey, here are the states that have opened here, the states that haven't.
00:09:56.260 And then you can do a compare and contrast.
00:09:58.460 Notice that the Democrat states like New York and Illinois and California had to have hundreds
00:10:03.000 of billions of dollars of bailout money in the stimulus bill because their states were
00:10:09.560 collapsing.
00:10:10.320 But the lockdown thing, I mean, that's really a worldwide theme that is just, I believe,
00:10:15.940 a drill being run worldwide right now.
00:10:18.400 Just worldwide government, global government.
00:10:20.580 We're all experiencing that right now.
00:10:22.580 So I think that that's more of the issue that we're dealing with here.
00:10:26.000 But as far as most other issues, I think that the state is probably the, the answer when
00:10:31.960 trying to get the federal government off your back and what you see in Florida and South
00:10:35.460 Dakota and Texas, kind of rejecting the masks, rejecting the lockdowns.
00:10:39.660 I think that that's kind of been a key factor.
00:10:42.920 Oh, and you're, you're getting dangerous here.
00:10:44.620 You're making too much sense.
00:10:45.660 We're going to have to pull the plug.
00:10:46.820 I think the media has a big role to play in this.
00:10:51.720 And I often ask people if they think a lot of the members, I'm talking the CNNs, the MSNBCs,
00:10:57.520 are they bad at their job or are they just lying?
00:11:00.640 So I often ask that question.
00:11:01.960 I want to ask that to you.
00:11:02.800 But let me play an interaction you had once with somebody from CNN, Van Jones.
00:11:07.540 And I want to juxtapose that with him crying on election night.
00:11:11.820 So let's see if we can play that one.
00:11:13.520 Here's what I believe about Donald Trump.
00:11:14.800 I believe that Donald Trump is not a racist.
00:11:17.460 I believe that Donald Trump is worse than a racist.
00:11:20.260 Now, let me tell you why I think he's worse than a racist.
00:11:22.340 A racist is someone who believes that his group is superior to another group.
00:11:28.100 That's a racist.
00:11:29.260 Now, that's pretty bad.
00:11:31.160 Hey, how you doing, brother? Good to see you.
00:11:32.580 Yeah, man.
00:11:33.400 That's pretty bad to think that your group is good and another group is bad.
00:11:38.800 That's, that's horrible.
00:11:39.700 Who's Donald Trump's group?
00:11:41.120 But Trump is worse than that.
00:11:43.040 Trump is a racial opportunist.
00:11:47.000 He actually does.
00:11:48.080 Actually, no, I think.
00:11:49.300 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:11:50.300 Oh, no, no, no.
00:11:51.100 You wanted, you wanted this.
00:11:53.020 You wanted this.
00:11:53.820 Well, I think you're, I think you're a racial opportunist.
00:11:56.000 Oh, maybe so.
00:11:56.840 Let's finish.
00:11:57.260 Here's the deal.
00:11:58.300 Here's the deal.
00:11:59.120 This is why I wanted to walk away.
00:12:00.620 Because I didn't know if you were the man who had enough character to listen to my answer.
00:12:03.520 So it's a character test for you.
00:12:04.880 I'm sorry, man.
00:12:05.660 Okay, you're bad.
00:12:06.640 No, no, I'm saying it's a test.
00:12:08.380 We don't know yet.
00:12:09.140 We don't know yet.
00:12:10.000 So, now, you ask the question, is Donald Trump a racist?
00:12:14.580 I say Donald Trump is not a racist.
00:12:16.260 I say he is worse than a racist.
00:12:17.700 He's a racial opportunist.
00:12:18.900 In other words, he uses other people's racial anxieties, other people's possible racial antipathies,
00:12:27.840 or just discomfort, and he plays with it for his own purposes, which means he doesn't think
00:12:35.160 that his group is better than anybody else.
00:12:37.860 He thinks everybody's stupid.
00:12:39.560 He's playing all of us.
00:12:41.020 That's what I think about Donald Trump.
00:12:42.340 Well, it's easier to be a parent this morning.
00:12:52.200 It's easier to be a dad.
00:12:53.880 It's easier to tell your kids character matters.
00:12:59.980 It matters.
00:13:01.180 Telling the truth matters.
00:13:03.260 Being a good person matters.
00:13:04.840 And it's easier for a whole lot of people.
00:13:10.620 If you're Muslim in this country, you don't have to worry if the president doesn't want you here.
00:13:16.520 So, Owen, try to hold back your tears on this one.
00:13:19.220 On one hand, he's joking around with you.
00:13:21.520 He's, you know, Trump is just a racial grifter.
00:13:23.880 He'll give credit to Kushner and Trump other times.
00:13:26.920 But other times, you know, everything's a white lash, and he's crying about how tough it is to be a parent in America.
00:13:32.560 Is there any way to determine whether or not these people are just bad or at their jobs or just lying?
00:13:40.600 I think that it's a case-by-case thing, honestly.
00:13:44.100 I think that you have to go case-by-case when dealing with these media people.
00:13:47.680 Like, for example, Anderson Cooper, I think, is just a known liar.
00:13:52.000 That one I think many people would have to have accepted by now.
00:13:55.640 But, you know, when you talk about Van Jones, it's rare.
00:13:57.680 Now, here's the credit that I will give to Van Jones, because I've had the opportunity to meet face-to-face almost every CNN host, now that I'm thinking about it.
00:14:06.900 Tapper, Lemon, Blitzer, Cooper, and Jones.
00:14:11.940 I guess he's not a host, but Van was the only one that actually talked to me.
00:14:14.700 Every other one refuses to talk to me.
00:14:16.560 They all had security come brush me away.
00:14:18.820 Tapper was probably the meanest of all of them.
00:14:21.260 But there was an energy to Anderson Cooper.
00:14:23.400 Let me just tell you, like, our cell phone equipment stopped working.
00:14:25.320 But, anyway, I'll stop right there.
00:14:27.200 I'll stop right there.
00:14:28.220 So, here's the thing.
00:14:28.940 With Van Jones, you can tell that there's a realness to the guy.
00:14:32.260 There's a, you know, he can be real with you.
00:14:34.720 You could probably sit down at a bar and enjoy a cold beverage with him, and it wouldn't be such a bad experience.
00:14:39.420 But he's obviously exaggerating his emotions on TV.
00:14:44.420 He's obviously selling to the audience.
00:14:46.680 He's been caught on Project Veritas tape admitting that he knew Russian collusion was a fake story, but yet they ran with that for three years.
00:14:53.600 So, he doesn't have the most integrity, I would say, when it comes to being a reporter or a newsman.
00:14:59.260 But he's smart enough to get by.
00:15:00.780 He's smart enough to do what he needs to do to be successful on TV.
00:15:03.780 He came out of the Obama administration.
00:15:05.520 He's obviously a smart guy.
00:15:06.940 But the funniest thing about that clip has to be the blatant hypocrisy of Van Jones saying Trump is a racial opportunist when that's everything CNN is.
00:15:18.960 I mean, everything he just said is exactly what the liberal media does, whether it's George Floyd or Jacob Blake or Michael Brown and all the big lies that they tell.
00:15:27.860 So, I mean, that's just incredible hypocrisy there from Van Jones.
00:15:31.500 But I think Van Jones is probably the better way to describe his situation would be he's just – he's kind of an actor.
00:15:39.160 He's more of an actor on TV.
00:15:41.300 He's smart enough that he knows what to say, what not to say.
00:15:44.200 And so he's been successful on CNN coming out of the Obama administration, and he knew Russian collusion was fake news, but he still talked about it.
00:15:50.940 So that's kind of one example of just Van Jones.
00:15:54.160 Now, can we take any merit in watching the CNNs or the MSNBCs, or maybe your favorite, the Young Turks, I'd imagine is probably your favorite.
00:16:03.120 Or should we just watch them to see what the other side is saying?
00:16:06.040 I don't watch a single second of the Young Turks.
00:16:11.260 I do.
00:16:12.100 I do.
00:16:12.920 I don't see any perceived value coming out of anything they do.
00:16:17.300 I mean, there isn't – I think there's maybe some inherent value in watching CNN or MSNBC or some of the mainstream news that I just – I monitor.
00:16:24.780 Just to monitor what their narratives are and to kind of see where they're trying to go, where they're going to go next, what they're saying, because you have to counter their lies.
00:16:32.860 That's part of the – that's part of the job now of being a reporter and telling the truth of just countering the mainstream lies, countering the mainstream narrative.
00:16:40.340 And so when you can kind of put your finger on the pulse of what they're going to do, you can kind of see what they're going to do next and see what the deception is.
00:16:47.500 So I think there's some value in monitoring that, at least from where I sit at a news desk.
00:16:52.900 But, yeah, the Young Turks will never get a second of my time. 0.97
00:16:56.080 I wish they would actually, like, debate us.
00:16:58.380 I mean, that would be fun.
00:16:59.300 That would actually be something that would probably get millions of views.
00:17:01.640 But for some reason, they never have any interest in that.
00:17:03.920 I think the Alex and Chank interaction is one of my favorite videos of all time.
00:17:09.360 Who is that that spits on him? 0.88
00:17:10.720 Was that Jimmy Dore who spit on Alex Jones?
00:17:14.300 I think it was, yeah.
00:17:15.580 And the funny thing is, that video and the Van Jones video, they were both from the Republican National Convention in 2016.
00:17:22.660 All those videos, they had millions of views, banned from YouTube.
00:17:25.120 Can't even – so I don't know how you guys found him.
00:17:27.060 Good job.
00:17:28.260 Now, free speech I want to transition to, something I believe in wholeheartedly.
00:17:32.520 And if people want to lie on air, Van Jones wants to lie on air, I'm okay with that.
00:17:36.580 But I want to move on to specifying on, like, weaponizing political experts or former office holders.
00:17:42.160 For what, for lack of a better term, you could call propaganda.
00:17:46.700 Now, I want to show an interaction you had with former Congressman Al Green, where he repeats the Charlottesville lies.
00:17:53.920 And I want to talk about, like I said, weaponizing these former politicians to get your point across.
00:17:58.900 Will you please quit lying about the president?
00:18:00.500 No, I'm going to tell you the truth.
00:18:02.100 He's not a racist.
00:18:02.820 He is a bigot and a racist.
00:18:04.200 He's won awards for his contributions to inner cities.
00:18:08.160 He is a bigot and a racist.
00:18:08.740 What has he done that's bigoted, sir?
00:18:10.000 He is a bigot and a racist.
00:18:10.800 What has he done?
00:18:11.480 There were no fine people in Charlottesville.
00:18:14.620 What does that have to do with anything?
00:18:16.240 What about the veterans that were there?
00:18:17.660 Well, the veterans who were there are fine people.
00:18:19.840 That's what he was talking about, the veterans.
00:18:21.280 The people who were involved in killing that lady were not fine people.
00:18:26.240 Okay, well, that was a very tragic situation.
00:18:28.540 Okay, well, look, now I've talked to you and I appreciate it.
00:18:29.620 But Trump is not a racist and you should stop saying that.
00:18:32.920 You have your opinion.
00:18:33.660 That's ridiculous.
00:18:34.540 Look at all the black people he works with.
00:18:36.980 Look at all the Hispanic people he works with.
00:18:38.860 But racists work with black people. 0.97
00:18:40.640 Your rhetoric is causing political violence.
00:18:43.060 Well, then you have your opinion.
00:18:43.880 Your rhetoric is dividing the nation.
00:18:44.880 You're entitled to your opinion.
00:18:45.760 No, sir, I...
00:18:46.440 There's no fine people there.
00:18:47.740 Oh, wait, yes, the veterans are fine people.
00:18:49.340 He kind of answered his own question.
00:18:51.080 So, Owen, when people are the status of former congressmen or they're the John Brennans and
00:18:55.700 James Clappers, they're lying nightly on TV, how should the public deal with that?
00:19:02.580 Well, when you're dealing with a James Clapper or some of these other CIA guys that go on
00:19:07.960 MSNBC and CNN, I think that that's a little more extreme than an Al Green who's just, quite
00:19:15.320 frankly, a fumbling, bumbling moron.
00:19:17.480 And just from my few exchanges with him, that's the sad truth of the situation there.
00:19:23.240 But, you know, I think it's tough when they're in office or when they're when they actually
00:19:27.760 have a government job.
00:19:29.520 I think that they should be they should have some sort of I mean, I would treat it almost
00:19:35.040 like perjuring yourself under oath.
00:19:37.520 I mean, if you're if you're if you're working for the American people, I mean, I guess we
00:19:41.500 have treason laws, you know, sedition laws and stuff like that.
00:19:44.460 But, you know, lying about weapons of mass destruction and then how many troops go into
00:19:48.800 Iraq or Afghanistan and die because of those wars.
00:19:52.720 I mean, we can go on and on the Gulf of Tonkin.
00:19:54.640 And this goes this has been going on for decades, but in the modern day, it's Brennan going
00:19:58.720 on CNN saying, yeah, Trump Trump is a Russian agent.
00:20:02.280 You know, we have Trump doing this and Trump doing that all lies, but he's not with the
00:20:08.180 CIA anymore.
00:20:09.420 So how do you how do you deal with that?
00:20:11.260 I don't know.
00:20:11.700 It's it's a kind of a tough situation.
00:20:13.940 But for Al Green, again, like you said, we don't we don't call for anybody to be censored.
00:20:19.520 We're free speech purists.
00:20:20.840 So Al Green has every right to go out there and call Trump a racist as much as he wants.
00:20:24.800 But so I don't know.
00:20:25.700 I don't know what you really do to punish that.
00:20:28.220 The problem is we we we are supposed to be living in a free republic.
00:20:31.740 So that means free market, free market of information, elections, everything.
00:20:35.920 But that's kind of eroding away.
00:20:38.500 So normally somebody like Al Green would not have a chance at office.
00:20:42.760 He's an idiot.
00:20:43.900 He's a fumbling, bumbling moron.
00:20:45.620 He lies to the American people every day.
00:20:47.680 He divides the nation every day.
00:20:49.140 This guy should have no chance in a free and open market with free and fair elections.
00:20:52.380 But we don't have a free market of information.
00:20:54.880 It's not even close.
00:20:56.460 And I don't think there's many people that even trust we have free or fair elections these
00:20:59.960 days either.
00:21:00.480 And that's how you end up with the Al Greens and the Nancy Pelosi's and the Maxine Waters
00:21:06.320 in there for decades.
00:21:08.000 Somehow nobody seems to vote for these people.
00:21:10.700 Nobody seems to like them, but they're there.
00:21:12.220 They never lose an election.
00:21:14.400 And so I think the problem here is we don't have a free flow of information.
00:21:18.360 And I don't think we have actual fair elections or even real elections, quite frankly.
00:21:23.360 Do you think there should be term limits?
00:21:24.640 I mean, that's not really a big issue I take up.
00:21:31.060 I think that if we had great politicians in there that were, you know, in there for 50
00:21:35.980 years doing great things, standing up for America, we maybe wouldn't talk about term
00:21:40.080 limits much.
00:21:41.200 But because it seems to be the criminals and the crooks that take advantage of no term
00:21:45.380 limits, you know, then maybe that's something to be considered.
00:21:48.240 But I think there's other ways to solve these problems without, you know, imposing more law.
00:21:53.480 Can you recall when do you think it was in your life when you started, you know, watching
00:21:58.700 the television and being like, I don't necessarily trust this person because the TV tells me they're
00:22:04.840 an expert.
00:22:05.520 Was there any moment like that or was it just a gradual?
00:22:08.360 I mean, I remember pretty vividly you sharing the list of people from the WikiLeaks that CNN
00:22:14.340 was sharing their information.
00:22:16.880 Like the media, you remember what I'm talking about, the media list of people that were basically
00:22:20.520 colluding with the Clinton campaign?
00:22:23.920 When was it that you sort of as a person realized that maybe I shouldn't just be taking everything
00:22:29.040 that these people say to heart?
00:22:32.400 Yeah, there was a very specific date.
00:22:35.200 I believe it was it was the day of the Boston Marathon bombing.
00:22:38.240 I think it was April 12th or 13th, 2013.
00:22:41.700 I'm trying to remember the exact date.
00:22:42.880 But anyway, and the only reason it wasn't necessarily anything too crazy about that day,
00:22:47.880 other than the fact that I was in sports media and that was all my that was my whole career.
00:22:52.960 I was in sports media.
00:22:54.140 I never watched a lick of political news.
00:22:56.160 I mean, literally zero, zero minutes, zero seconds of politics, current events, didn't
00:23:00.880 care.
00:23:01.460 I was in the sports matrix.
00:23:03.100 And so that was the first time really when since I had been in professional broadcasting
00:23:08.180 that sports and and, you know, current events and news kind of merged.
00:23:12.260 And so for the first time ever, I tuned into cable news.
00:23:16.080 Now, I mean, literally first time ever, I think I'm like 22 or 23 hosting sports radio.
00:23:22.340 And so just watching the news to figure out what's going on with this Boston bombing situation.
00:23:26.840 And it was just like it was just like instinctual, like no matter what channel, like I just knew
00:23:31.040 I was like this.
00:23:31.700 I don't trust any of these people.
00:23:33.300 This whole all this seems fake.
00:23:35.180 And then just through a little research of my own with alternative news outlets, just
00:23:41.140 to do a little bit of research on what was actually happening at the scene, I found out
00:23:45.340 that there were a bunch of anomalies and there was a bunch of information they weren't reporting.
00:23:49.820 And I'm just sitting there thinking to myself, if I can get this information and if I can know
00:23:54.820 this is going on, then certainly these people on cable television news know this is going
00:23:59.900 on and yet they're not reporting it, hmm, something seems up here.
00:24:03.700 And then it went on.
00:24:04.480 I still remember the people's names, Ed Davis, Rich Delorier, Carmen Ortiz, I think was the
00:24:10.200 judge's name.
00:24:10.860 I mean, it was that was my red pill moment was just watching how the whole thing works,
00:24:14.760 watching how they rig news, watching how they cover up current events.
00:24:18.400 And it was just like, boom, that was my red pill.
00:24:20.620 Like, OK, TV news has been lying my whole life.
00:24:23.280 Hmm, history is being written by the people that rig it my whole life. 0.84
00:24:26.780 Huh, this is kind of a weird thing.
00:24:28.660 And then I started transferring from sports to politics.
00:24:31.960 And it was really after the RNC of 2016, I think that that was like my final time being
00:24:37.800 in sports.
00:24:38.300 And then I moved on to politics.
00:24:40.440 Yeah.
00:24:40.560 And I think that was a time where yourself and Alex Jones and InfoWars really started opening
00:24:46.240 up.
00:24:46.980 I mean, you guys became like you were big before, obviously, but in the mainstream news, you
00:24:51.200 started to become a juggernaut with the Hillary fainting ordeal.
00:24:54.940 The wobbly is like, and you guys were the first ones to report it.
00:24:59.380 Paul Joseph Watson was right in there, too, as well.
00:25:01.600 I should mention his name.
00:25:02.760 So I think that helps with a lot of people realizing that they're not the only ones who
00:25:07.720 are, you know, the coming to a realization that everything that they see on there, this
00:25:12.120 person that CNN puts up, who's an expert, John Oliver's opinion, isn't exactly the end
00:25:17.440 all be all.
00:25:18.020 It's sort of like a fantasy land where only one point of view exists.
00:25:21.720 And everybody else who thinks otherwise, well, those are the crazy people.
00:25:24.980 And I think you would get a lot of that if you watched a lot of late night talk shows.
00:25:29.380 I don't know.
00:25:29.780 Do you ever, ever turn any of those on?
00:25:31.660 I guess I would have to assume that you don't.
00:25:34.640 No, I'm missing out on that.
00:25:37.700 You don't want to see Jimmy Kimmel cry?
00:25:39.760 Is that what you're telling me?
00:25:40.560 No, I'm missing the Kimmels of the world or whoever else is hosting late night talk 1.00
00:25:45.940 these days.
00:25:46.780 Yeah, I haven't been able to watch it myself since I think Trump became president because
00:25:51.460 it all just took such a sharp turn.
00:25:54.340 And there's so many publications like that.
00:25:56.860 So bad segue I want to make, too, is once when you were sexually assaulted on video.
00:26:02.260 For those of you watching who don't know about this, please take a look.
00:26:06.820 It's not as serious as it may sound.
00:26:08.560 Maybe it is.
00:26:09.180 Maybe I'm downplaying it.
00:26:10.060 But let's take a look at that.
00:26:10.980 I think the instance in itself could be considered a minor issue.
00:26:14.440 So if our president can grab a woman by the pussy, I can grab you by the bar. 1.00
00:26:18.020 She just grabbed my dick. 1.00
00:26:19.120 Is that sexual assault?
00:26:20.160 No.
00:26:20.680 Bye.
00:26:21.220 Is that sexual assault?
00:26:22.340 Yes.
00:26:23.040 So you just sexually assaulted me?
00:26:24.260 I did assault you.
00:26:24.660 So you do be arrested?
00:26:25.740 Arrest me.
00:26:26.520 I'm not going to arrest you.
00:26:27.500 There are police officers right here.
00:26:28.640 So look at this.
00:26:29.960 Women have so much privilege, she can sexually assault me and get away with it. 1.00
00:26:33.680 If I did that to her, I'd get arrested.
00:26:35.680 I just told you, if you want to go ahead, there are police right here.
00:26:39.960 I'm not complaining.
00:26:41.200 You're the one that walked up and grabbed my crotch. 1.00
00:26:43.300 Yeah, because I'm fighting for equality here.
00:26:47.060 How so?
00:26:49.180 Women get grabbed by the pussy, then I'm going to grab you by the balls. 1.00
00:26:55.040 I'm sorry to laugh, Owen.
00:26:56.320 I don't know if you're still mentally recovering from that.
00:26:58.280 But a lot of people, like me, want to know what ended up happening with that afterwards.
00:27:03.200 You're not supposed to have a special person.
00:27:03.940 prayers for you.
00:27:04.220 I'll be games for you.
00:27:18.800 Thanks for having me comments on screen,家族 on screen.
00:27:19.140 Yeah, we'll see you down there.
00:27:21.200 Bye.
00:27:21.700 Bye.
00:27:21.800 Bye.
00:27:22.580 Bye.
00:27:24.860 Bye.
00:27:29.140 Bye.
00:27:29.500 Bye.
00:27:29.600 Bye.
00:27:31.160 Bye.
00:27:31.780 Bye.
00:27:31.920 Bye.
00:27:32.260 uh she she did get charged with uh i forget the exact charges but i pressed charges for
00:27:43.800 sexual assault and she did get sexual assault charges uh it happened uh all the court case 0.53
00:27:50.060 and everything concluded i believe over a year ago now maybe even two so it's a little hazy the
00:27:54.620 final conclusion that was reached but she did receive charges and um you know looking back on
00:28:00.960 it basically what we decided the lawyers were like well you know technically i think that she should
00:28:08.220 be charged with this but their lawyers didn't want it because that would put her on like a lifetime
00:28:12.880 list you know of a sexual assaulters and they thought maybe the judge wouldn't be so willing
00:28:18.280 to go along with that so they said let's let's put the charges to a lesser sexual assault charge
00:28:22.300 because we think that'll be a higher percentage and that's what she ended up getting that was
00:28:26.500 maybe the only regret because i think that you know maybe she should have had a little more punishment
00:28:30.540 there but i think she probably learned her lesson and the ultimate lesson of course is that once
00:28:36.260 again you you just look at the way the the left behaves you look at the way democrat voters behave
00:28:40.500 in public they're just total hypocrites they don't believe in their message they don't even know their
00:28:44.260 message uh they're out there fighting sexual assault and sexually assaulting people in the streets
00:28:48.600 so i mean i don't know how much more hypocritical it gets than that but you know what's sad though
00:28:53.020 is how many times i've been assaulted in the streets how many times i've been death threaded in the
00:28:57.660 streets i mean dozens of times and i believe to this day that is the only arrest that is the only
00:29:03.520 arrest i mean i've had men spit on me the cops witness it i've had men throw punches at me the cops
00:29:08.600 witness it i've had men grab my genitals uh drag queen story time deals and then cops right there 0.75
00:29:14.620 and they get away with it so i mean that's been the only time of all the death threats and assaults
00:29:19.160 that's been the only one that's resulted in arrest which is pretty sad this is going to sound like
00:29:23.380 a rhetorical question but right now there's no blm mass marches or riots there's no antifa
00:29:28.780 really in the streets except for of course in their stronghold city of portland which they now rule
00:29:33.920 i guess no women's march this year have these problems just gone away under biden owen or do we 0.97
00:29:39.500 know how long i have somebody to blame for it well i think that the the agenda here has has run its
00:29:46.880 course right get trump out you know get trump so i think now that trump's out of the white house
00:29:51.560 i think the you know these these movements have really run their course they've they've fulfilled
00:29:55.760 their duty uh yeah why wouldn't you have me too for biden i mean you know i guarantee you most of
00:30:01.180 these people that claim trump sexually assaulted someone probably couldn't even name the name name
00:30:05.580 a single name of a woman that's accused him but everybody knows tara reid right uh so it's funny
00:30:11.040 how tara reid doesn't get any uh me too marches or anything like that for biden but you know we don't
00:30:16.100 even need tara reid i mean we have the videos of biden when women come into the white house and
00:30:20.960 children come into the white house the sniffing the groping so i mean now that you have cuomo
00:30:25.340 too they ignored fairfax i mean they they laughed at franken so it just it just showed you the me too
00:30:31.760 was nothing more than get trump that's all it ever was and now that trump's out it's it's run its course
00:30:36.600 so oh magically the me too marches are done oh yeah i'm sure that's just coincidence those are some of
00:30:41.620 your best videos though so we need those marches back we need more content that way and i'm really
00:30:47.640 surprised that the biden uh smelling hair of teenagers and saying oh aren't you 17 they're
00:30:53.880 like no i'm 12 i'm surprised those don't get circulated a lot maybe they are just suppressed
00:30:58.040 is a more likely outcome so we want to say goodbye to the youtube audience now and we're going to move
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00:31:20.260 okay oh and we're in in even safer grounds now behind the rebel news plus wall um our safe space
00:31:27.940 we'll call it i want to get to i think this might be your most viral video it might be one of the first
00:31:33.300 ones i saw of yours i couldn't find the one where you're saying um you got the bullhorn and you're
00:31:38.000 talking about who donated to uh big pharma and it was hillary of course but the white male video i
00:31:44.800 think is maybe the funniest one you've ever been a part of so let's go ahead and just remind
00:31:49.620 everybody watching what that is
00:31:51.440 does not remind you of that does trump not remind you of that no explain to me how trump is like hitler
00:31:58.280 massed abortion this would be shit donald trump was founded on immigration 0.85
00:32:08.640 you've never experienced oppression in your entire fucking life neither have i you don't know me 0.97
00:32:14.780 you're fucking a white male you're a white man i white people don't notice like people that's right 0.99
00:32:21.300 bullshit that's what bernie sanders said that's what bernie sanders said no yeah you did 0.85
00:32:26.460 that was too wild i laugh every time did you think it was going to be that widely shared when that
00:32:46.820 happened did you feel that in the moment of uh what was his nickname aids skrillex i believe became
00:32:51.600 his name yeah that was a wild age skrillex there that day you know honestly i had an idea that that
00:32:58.580 was going to be pretty big in the moment because i had already i i had already met info wars crew
00:33:04.480 from prior events and so i think that and i was already doing some political stuff at the time so
00:33:09.620 i'm pretty sure when the info wars camera guy saw that i was there you know talking to these people
00:33:14.120 he immediately came to me and started filming so i knew it was going to be you know at least big
00:33:18.500 because it was going to be on the info wars platform uh but then once the crowd started
00:33:23.100 getting you know wild and stuff i i kind of i kind of knew in the moment that that was going to be
00:33:27.620 um it was going to be a famous video i don't i i don't think i could have ever predicted it was
00:33:32.100 going to be that famous but i definitely i definitely knew it was going to be big and then uh what
00:33:36.600 happened was because i i go i at the time i was producing afternoon drive radio and so after that
00:33:42.540 event i'm going in to get ready for that and i remember everybody starts coming in and they're
00:33:48.580 like hey did you see this and my picture was on the st louis post dispatch website it was like going
00:33:53.860 viral on all these other local sites and everything and i wasn't even really paying attention to that
00:33:58.140 because i was going to work and so then i was like whoa this is actually going to be this is
00:34:02.500 actually going to be a big thing and then the the youtube video of that on the info wars channel
00:34:07.920 was already getting millions of views there were already like remixes of age skrillex like dance
00:34:12.660 songs and stuff that i think may still be uh may still be up but yeah that was probably i don't know
00:34:18.480 if it's still the most viral video i've done but uh definitely at the time it was now that's about
00:34:24.040 five years ago or so uh from today 50 people yelling at you has discourse gotten better or worse since
00:34:31.920 then wow that's actually that is crazy i think it is exactly five years ago even
00:34:37.140 uh has discord it's gotten worse it's gotten worse well it doesn't even exist anymore i can't even i
00:34:44.920 can't even go i couldn't even go and recreate that magic if i wanted to anymore because they either
00:34:50.600 refuse to talk to you or they they get pretty violent immediately that's why a couple a couple
00:34:57.460 weeks ago when i went out to a pro mask rally i'm not even kidding you it was a pro mask rally that
00:35:03.580 makes a lot of sense yeah and so you can imagine the type of characters that were there but that
00:35:08.260 was like the first time in a long time where i could actually go to an event like that and actually
00:35:12.320 have a microphone and get people to talk to me or like be in an event that didn't get just totally out
00:35:17.680 of control or you know whether it got violent or people just not talking to me so i it's honestly
00:35:23.520 it's hard for me to even do that anymore um so it's it's it's kind of like i've been forced into
00:35:28.700 retirement in a way but it you know i think uh it's probably gotten worse i think it's gotten
00:35:35.380 worse in five years sadly it's gotten worse now maybe maybe you can start to come back around now
00:35:40.120 that trump is not in office but but from where we're at five years ago it's definitely gotten worse
00:35:44.860 now there are some groups of course that are trying to promote this sort of thing and i want to get
00:35:49.740 your opinion on them because i know you're not an establishment guy i know you're not just going to
00:35:53.660 ride or die with the republicans i'm the same way i'm not i'm not just going to go with a party i'm
00:35:59.020 going to go where i think the good ideas are groups like turning point uh young americans
00:36:04.140 foundation do you see them as an overall good or are they sort of just farming uh old thought
00:36:10.600 patterns from a republican party that maybe not all of us support anymore yeah kind of like the like
00:36:17.080 the extension of boomerism or something yeah i mean i talked to some of them sorry to interrupt i i've
00:36:23.140 interviewed uh some of them i've talked to some of them i mean i agree with most of what they're
00:36:27.820 saying but the way it's sort of formed in a machine i don't know if i can get behind that
00:36:32.500 yeah i think you know turning point is obviously a very wide wide stretching organization and so a lot
00:36:39.400 of the individuals you know that i've met are really great people and i think that pretty much
00:36:44.000 agree with at least all or most of the messages that i talk about on my broadcast but i do think you
00:36:49.560 know when you when you talk about charlie kirk and you talk about you know the top operation there's
00:36:53.800 a lot of big money behind that i think they're connected at the hip to the republican party and
00:36:58.280 so the narrative is always going to be controlled and it's there's always going to be you know ceilings
00:37:03.520 there's always going to be limitations of of where they're going to go with their with their
00:37:07.200 information and uh so you know i think there's obviously good in it uh but the thing is that people
00:37:13.580 just need to understand that that's like you know riding on a bunny hill at the at you know
00:37:19.040 the ski resort is like turning point usa is like the bunny hill of freedom i would say you know like
00:37:23.540 oh let's you know we're gonna hop on the bunny hill and we're going nice and slow and it's nice
00:37:27.300 and safe here we're in our comfort zone on the bunny hill and so that's just kind of what it means
00:37:32.420 to me but but you know i think most of the people that they're there are good uh you know charlie
00:37:36.960 kirk for whatever reason always wants to snub me and act like he doesn't know who i am or like he
00:37:41.000 doesn't know that i exist and so i i don't know if that's true or not if that is true then he really
00:37:45.280 has no clue what's going on was that when you were at uh the convention next to him it was that was you
00:37:51.000 right yeah it would no it was at um cpac right 20 20 19 or 20 20 19 yeah 2019 uh no i think it was
00:38:02.600 2020 i mean no it was 2019 i i i yeah i can man it's all like a blur anyway yeah he's he's coming up
00:38:10.720 he's shaking all these people's hands and i'm like hey charlie kirk how you doing i want to
00:38:13.960 infowars and he like snubs me and everybody around is chanting charlie and infowars and then his and
00:38:20.180 then his little handlers literally grab him and he's like oh i gotta go and he like runs away and
00:38:24.460 there was actually another time he snubbed me too it was it was it was just this thing we were both at
00:38:28.500 trump hotel and i was sitting in this chair and i saw him walk by and i was just like i was just like
00:38:32.760 oh hey charlie how you doing like just jovial and he literally acted like he didn't even hear me
00:38:36.740 and just like scooted away so i don't know what the deal with that is i don't want to think the
00:38:41.260 worst about tp usa but it's just it's the bunny hill of freedom i would say it's the bunny hill
00:38:47.140 of freedom you're you're not going to really have any thrills you're not going to really get anything
00:38:51.760 new but you're always going to be safe and i think you're always going to be connected to the
00:38:55.820 republican party so you'll only go as far as they want you to as far as young americans for freedom
00:39:00.980 lot smaller not as much big money behind it a little more libertarian leading uh leaning and so
00:39:07.520 i think that uh you get a little bit more of an organic approach to the issues that aren't really
00:39:12.900 tied to party politics like you do with tp usa but i've only had a few run-ins with people from yaf but
00:39:18.140 i think it's more libertarian leaning not much big money behind it so it's it's more organic in its
00:39:22.440 approach for sure charlie kirk stop cool guying owen troyer so one of the last questions i want to ask you
00:39:28.600 is about vaccines everyone's going to want to know is owen troyer getting any of the vaccines for
00:39:34.400 coronavirus no no i won't be uh getting any of the vaccines neither will i and i'm and i'm telling my
00:39:41.780 family do not get the vaccines either now do you think this is uh do you think the pharmaceutical
00:39:46.960 companies i don't want to put you on the spot here but do you think that they're there's something
00:39:51.480 more purposeful or bad behind it or is it too much of a risk for them to put out something that's
00:39:58.460 defective and would affect their sales well there's really no risk involved at all for big
00:40:04.400 pharmaceutical in this case uh specifically with vaccines because that you can't take a vaccine
00:40:09.300 manufacturer to court you can't do it they have their own special court system where basically
00:40:14.120 if the court says that there was damage then they'll pay you a fee but that's it uh and so and
00:40:19.760 so most people don't even know they were vaccine damaged so there really is no risk uh inherited by
00:40:24.980 the vaccine manufacturers uh in this case but you know at the i think here here's the thing at the
00:40:30.080 very least or the best case scenario that we have here is big pharmaceutical companies or or whoever
00:40:37.620 with the media and perhaps some of the people that they they own in congress just just ran what i would
00:40:44.680 call a fake pandemic if you look at the death count numbers they did not go up in the year 2020
00:40:49.200 they did not go up a single percentage now how is that possible with the deadliest pandemic ever
00:40:53.660 so at the best case scenario big pharmaceuticals and and media companies and the congress people
00:40:59.460 that they own just faked a pandemic to sell a bunch of vaccines and boy boy did they hundreds of
00:41:04.880 millions of vaccines distributed they'll make billions if not trillions of dollars over time
00:41:09.640 with this deal so great job they own the media they own the courts they own the congress they just
00:41:14.480 made themselves billions of dollars in a huge scam that's best case scenario that's best case scenario
00:41:19.580 because people can understand that what's the motive money okay everybody gets that but worst
00:41:24.800 case scenario they're running a trial vaccine it's all by design who knows what this thing is going to
00:41:29.800 do we've already got people dropping dead you've got people having horrible side effects like guion
00:41:35.260 beret syndrome and bell's palsy so i mean it's it's it's not it's not good and it looks like right now i
00:41:41.380 would say for most people the odds that you're going to have a negative experience with the vaccine
00:41:46.300 are higher than the odds you'll have a negative experience with covet and that's something that i
00:41:51.380 that i bring up with a lot of people i mean they're gonna they're gonna say oh it's just fault for all
00:41:56.980 of our safety but my belief has sort of shifted to that there's a lot of money to be made made by this
00:42:03.240 and that's what i was kind of referring to earlier when i talked about the ignoring of states that are
00:42:08.000 open because biden gets up there and he's saying well you know if you get a vaccine you could have a
00:42:13.500 4th of july well you can have a 4th of july in about 15 other states but you have to get this
00:42:18.780 vaccine at the same time i don't understand the messaging other than please get this and make us a
00:42:24.440 lot of money am i talking crazy here no i mean this is the simplest formula really uh we all know how
00:42:31.420 much money is in big pharmaceutical companies we all know how much they invest in media and politics so
00:42:36.920 yeah they would be able to control the message on both of those platforms and if they can get people
00:42:41.900 to promote their vaccine and have you in fear that you want to get the vaccine then yeah they'll sell
00:42:46.240 100 million vaccines i think the number is almost half a billion now of vaccines distributed worldwide
00:42:51.860 so that's a pretty nice boondoggle that's a pretty nice that's a pretty nice cash flush that they just
00:42:57.740 had there all right one more question and then i'll let you go because i appreciate your time
00:43:02.440 is this the start of the owen troyer podcast tour we see alex on the flagrant podcast he's been on
00:43:08.400 rogan i don't see you on as many podcasts as i would like can we start you getting on more and
00:43:14.520 more of these well i i i would love to do them i'm obviously not as big as alex and i think uh the
00:43:21.620 reason why people don't really invite me on podcasts is because i i was pretty much censored
00:43:26.400 before anybody really started looking into censorship and i was pretty much censored before people saw that
00:43:33.320 i had a big youtube channel with hundreds of thousands of subscribers and a big twitter account and
00:43:36.980 all that stuff so that's what people look for for guests now and if you're not there they just
00:43:40.460 really don't have any interest on in you uh unless they follow your stuff so uh i don't know i i don't
00:43:46.760 mind alex doing the heavy lifting and going and doing all the podcast tours that's not a bad thing but
00:43:51.340 i'm always appreciative when people invite me on all right well i want to see more of you i think uh
00:43:57.100 i see a lot of myself and you owen let me tell you
00:43:59.780 or i don't know who's older probably uh maybe it's like vice versa maybe uh maybe my suit was
00:44:07.300 stolen from you who knows how old are you that'll have to that'll have to be a behind the double
00:44:11.260 paywall all right you can only get the secret information from the double paywall it'll include
00:44:16.080 your suit size my suit size our ages and our fake birth certificates okay hospitals of birth
00:44:22.680 everything last word to you owen go ahead well you know we're in incredible times right now and i
00:44:29.780 think that if you are like me you always had an instinct you always had a gut intuition that that
00:44:34.860 humanity would be faced with this crisis and that we would have to make a choice so people just need
00:44:39.640 to make a choice because you can see where culture is going you can see where society is going
00:44:43.820 you can see where america is going if you don't like it you better take action to turn it around
00:44:49.360 because this is this is an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object and it's going to be
00:44:54.540 really bad if we don't turn this ship around and save the republic soon all right finer words have
00:45:00.900 not been said by myself all i do is owen on gab and of course band.video and infowars.com war room
00:45:07.760 war room is raw are we do we still have the wrestling theme right now uh we we keep 90s themes
00:45:14.640 consistent we've kind of backed off a little bit of the attitude era but uh it's always there
00:45:19.220 it's always underlying all right as long as we get the glass shattering at the beginning i think
00:45:23.140 we're okay thanks a lot owen i appreciate it i'll talk to you soon okay thank you