Rebel News Podcast - What the mainstream media isn’t telling you about Quebec’s proposed anti-niqab law

00:00:00.000 Hey Rebels, I got a edumacational show today, I think.

00:00:05.240 I go through Bill 21, which is the Quebec Bill.

00:00:11.400 I call it a burka ban, but it doesn't actually ban burkas except for in the public service. 0.86

00:00:16.180 It's actually called an act to confirm it from the laicity, the secularism of Quebec.

00:00:23.100 I'm going to read you some portions of the bill.

00:00:25.320 Now, don't click away now.

00:00:26.760 It's more interesting than it sounds.

00:00:28.620 And I'm going to show you who the leaders of the charge against the bill are.

00:00:34.180 And I think that is the most infuriating part of it all.

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00:01:13.080 Without further to do, here is my show.

00:01:15.060 Tonight, what the mainstream media isn't telling you about Quebec's proposed anti-burka law.

00:01:25.220 It's April 9th and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

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00:01:42.200 bloody right to do so.

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00:01:50.680 Quebec's new anti-burka law called Bill 21 is racist.

00:01:54.800 Not just racist.

00:01:55.700 It is, get this, ethnic cleansing.

00:01:58.740 Here's a Montreal area mayor named Bill Steinberg at a press conference with other political

00:02:04.320 leaders.

00:02:05.100 Steinberg said, quote, this is ethnic cleansing, not with a gun, but with a law.

00:02:11.800 It is racist.

00:02:14.300 Whoa.

00:02:15.300 Did you know that we do ethnic cleansing in Canada in 2019? 0.94

00:02:19.380 Not with a gun, but still.

00:02:22.140 If you look at that little press conference, something immediately stands out, at least

00:02:25.660 it did to me.

00:02:27.220 You got Bill Steinberg.

00:02:28.940 He's the mayor of Hampstead.

00:02:30.280 You got Mitchell Brownstein.

00:02:31.500 He's the mayor of a small municipality called Code St. Luke.

00:02:33.800 You got a liberal MP.

00:02:35.560 You can see him there in the middle there with the red tie, Anthony Housefather.

00:02:40.020 You got a staffer next to him who is with the office of a provincial politician named David

00:02:46.880 Birnbaum.

00:02:47.540 So they're all left-wing Jews from Montreal's Anglophone enclave. 0.98

00:02:53.760 I mean, seriously, I called Steinberg a mayor of Hampstead, but his town of Hampstead has

00:03:00.260 just 7,000 people in it.

00:03:02.720 My high school in Calgary had almost 2,000.

00:03:06.340 Now, it's a 91% white city, speaking demographically.

00:03:10.460 Now, there's nothing wrong with being white. 0.91

00:03:12.480 It's also 75% Jewish.

00:03:15.480 Nothing wrong with being Jewish.

00:03:16.480 I'm Jewish myself.

00:03:18.240 So this town, bigger than my high school, is basically a little bubble of unreality in

00:03:26.040 Montreal and Quebec and Canada.

00:03:28.080 It's the same with all of them.

00:03:28.980 Code St. Luke, I mentioned their mayor was there.

00:03:31.640 It's just a little bit bigger.

00:03:32.720 I don't know, about 30,000 people, Anthony Housefather, he was an anonymous liberal MP

00:03:37.480 until he disgraced himself as the chair of the Justice Committee in Parliament last month.

00:03:42.860 He's the guy who shut down any further inquiry into the SNC-Lavalin bribery scandal.

00:03:47.860 He's the MP from those parts.

00:03:49.720 So these are the folks who are saying that the Quebec government's proposed ban on burqas

00:03:55.860 and hijabs in the public service is ethnic cleansing. 0.99

00:03:59.420 It's racist, but without a gun.

00:04:02.720 It's weird and it's masochistic.

00:04:05.320 These liberal, white, rich, Anglo-Jews living in their little ethnic bubble in the larger 1.00

00:04:14.700 city of Montreal.

00:04:16.100 Talk about living in a fantasy land.

00:04:18.180 In the rest of Montreal, outside the leafy, gated communities in Hampstead and Code St.

00:04:24.920 Luke.

00:04:25.080 Look, Islam is now the second largest religion.

00:04:28.780 It's more than 10% of the population in Quebec.

00:04:32.300 Arabic is the third most spoken language in Montreal, after English and French.

00:04:38.740 I know it probably isn't a factor in these little Jewish enclaves, but remember this, you 0.99

00:04:44.500 know, outside of those little Jewish bubbles, this is the reality. 0.90

00:04:48.220 This is a photograph of a state-funded daycare in Quebec, where the daycare workers are wearing

00:04:56.000 full niqabs, and those are just neighborhood kids. 1.00

00:04:59.420 Yeah, I didn't hear a word from Steinberg about ethnic cleansing then.

00:05:03.900 And here's the Jewish-Anglo enclave now saying they're going to stand up and fight for the

00:05:10.920 rights of women to wear burqas and niqabs in the public service.

00:05:16.100 I love this headline here.

00:05:17.600 It's in the Montreal Gazette.

00:05:19.660 Code St. Luke Freedom Rally to Join Groundswell of Anti-Bill 21 Protests.

00:05:25.680 So the rally is going to be held this Sunday, April 14th, in front of Code St. Luke City Hall.

00:05:32.940 Hmm.

00:05:35.060 Except there are no women wearing niqabs in the Code St. Luke Civil Service.

00:05:41.480 There are no women wearing the full ninja in Hampstead running daycares. 0.97

00:05:47.020 I checked Statistics Canada, actually, and after English and French, do you know what the

00:05:51.820 next most common languages are in that little Jewish town of Code St. Luke?

00:05:56.220 Stats can, I'll tell you.

00:05:57.180 Now, Russian is third, then Hebrew, then Yiddish.

00:06:05.820 Yiddish.

00:06:06.620 Three percent of people in Code St. Luke, Yiddish is their mother tongue.

00:06:10.000 I didn't even know Yiddish could be a mother tongue.

00:06:13.940 Isn't that the language of European Jews from pre-Holocaust times?

00:06:18.260 There's a thousand people in Code St. Luke.

00:06:20.240 Three percent of the town.

00:06:21.020 That's their first language.

00:06:23.420 How is that even possible in 2019?

00:06:27.360 Well, it's not, except for in this little Jewish corner. 0.98

00:06:32.280 Now, I have to tell you, if I ever moved to Montreal, I think I would want to live in

00:06:38.680 Hempstead or Code St. Luke.

00:06:41.160 If I could afford it, I don't know if I could.

00:06:43.240 But it's my kind of people.

00:06:45.760 They speak English.

00:06:47.220 They go to synagogue.

00:06:48.520 They send their kids to Jewish schools.

00:06:50.920 I bet there's some pretty great Montreal bagel places and smoked meat.

00:06:54.720 I would absolutely live there.

00:06:58.140 They're my people.

00:07:00.280 But that's not Quebec, folks.

00:07:03.120 And when the Anglo-Jews from Hampstead or Code St. Luke are rushing to defend burkas and 1.00

00:07:10.660 niqabs in the public square and daycares and public service, they're not really, because 1.00

00:07:17.280 there are no burkas and niqabs in their little shtetls, in their little Jewish ghetto. 0.99

00:07:21.540 It's the absolute summit of virtue signaling.

00:07:24.380 They really want other Quebecers, French Catholic Quebecers, to have burkas and niqabs in their 1.00

00:07:33.860 neighborhoods, because there are none in these Jewish neighborhoods.

00:07:38.460 I say, hey, Steinberg and Brownstein and Housefather and Birnbaum, you go first, okay?

00:07:47.280 You hire people in niqabs and burkas in your offices, in your Jewish schools, in your little 1.00

00:07:56.380 cute town hall in Hampstead for your 7,000 citizens, in your daycares, in your health clinics.

00:08:04.320 You go first, guys.

00:08:06.440 But they don't mean it.

00:08:09.180 But boy, are they ever carrying a lot of water for Islamic extremists. 0.95

00:08:13.260 It's so bizarre.

00:08:13.940 I say again, burkas and niqabs, that's actually not Islam. 1.00

00:08:17.600 That's radical Islam. 0.99

00:08:20.240 That's Islamism. 1.00

00:08:21.480 That's political Islam. 0.98

00:08:22.480 There are some very strong secular, moderate Muslims in Quebec who fight against Islamism,

00:08:30.120 political Islam, extremism.

00:08:32.900 The liberal Jews here aren't for them, though. 1.00

00:08:34.820 The liberal Jews here, weirdly, are for the extremists, just like they're doing in Europe. 1.00

00:08:39.740 And I don't understand it.

00:08:40.700 In France, in the UK, Jews are in some weird coalition with Islamism. 0.84

00:08:47.280 I don't know.

00:08:49.320 Maybe they think that they'll be the last one eaten by the tiger.

00:08:54.600 I don't know.

00:08:55.460 I just don't really get it.

00:08:57.020 But what's interesting is the rest of Quebec, Francophone Quebecers, they're just not shutting

00:09:04.860 up because these Anglos are telling them to. 1.00

00:09:07.860 Bill 21, this burka ban, it's actually the most popular law to be introduced in the Quebec

00:09:13.560 legislature in a generation.

00:09:15.860 It was actually introduced by the current CAC, Coalition Avenir Quebec government, to follow

00:09:23.140 on from the previous liberal government's bill.

00:09:27.800 And the Parti Québécois party in Quebec, they say it doesn't go far enough.

00:09:32.960 So you've got three mainstream Quebec parties who, amongst them, have formed the last three

00:09:38.220 governments in Quebec.

00:09:40.320 They all support this bill.

00:09:41.760 I don't know.

00:09:43.620 If I were an Anglo-Jew in Quebec, I'd probably do my part to be less separated, less ghettoized

00:09:51.820 from Quebec society, less of an ethnic separatist.

00:09:54.660 I'd want to join the main.

00:09:56.340 I'd want to join the Quebec nation.

00:09:58.260 And that's what it is.

00:09:59.040 I'm not talking about a sovereign, independent country.

00:10:01.540 That's not what I'm talking about.

00:10:02.300 I'm talking about the history, the language, the culture, the customs of the French-speaking

00:10:05.840 fact of that place to go back 400 years.

00:10:08.620 I would stop telling them what to do or not to do.

00:10:12.100 If I was the Lord Mayor of Hampstead with my 7,000 subjects, I don't think I'd be telling

00:10:18.180 Quebecers what to do or calling them racist.

00:10:20.900 How can Anglo-Jews who teach their own children, Hebrew or Yiddish, who send their own kids 1.00

00:10:28.300 to Jewish schools and Jewish synagogues and Jewish summer camps, how can they condemn 0.62

00:10:35.800 Quebecois for wanting to do the same, to preserve their Quebecois ways the same way these

00:10:42.040 Anglo-Jews are doing in Hampstead and Coat? 0.99

00:10:44.020 Say, look, what I would do if I lived in Quebec, I'd be there with them.

00:10:46.920 It's gross to me, this snobbery.

00:10:52.280 I'm Jewish and I want to preserve Judaism. 0.80

00:10:54.600 I'm Canadian.

00:10:55.580 That's my chief identity, but I am also Jewish.

00:10:57.800 I want to keep it going.

00:10:59.480 Why can't Quebecois preserve certain aspects of their society too, including having a separation 0.75

00:11:05.360 of mosque and state?

00:11:06.960 How's that ethnic cleansing? 0.89

00:11:08.600 It's got nothing to do with race or even religion.

00:11:11.680 You just can't wear ostentatious symbols of any religion now if you represent the state.

00:11:17.620 That's actually part of Quebec's culture.

00:11:19.520 What's that got to do with race?

00:11:22.580 It's got to do with Muslim extremism, I grant you, which the old fossils in Coat St. 1.00

00:11:27.080 Luke live far away from.

00:11:29.100 Well, I hope the gates in their gated community are really tall.

00:11:32.340 By the way, there was a rally for the burqa in Montreal, and it was led by Adil Charkawi.

00:11:40.340 Who is he?

00:11:42.320 Oh, no big deal.

00:11:43.180 He's a Moroccan-born Muslim extremist.

00:11:46.640 He was arrested in 2003 and held on an anti-terrorism security certificate.

00:11:52.740 Eventually, he was let go by police.

00:11:54.780 Despite training in jihadist camps, he radicalizes young Muslims.

00:11:58.540 The Moroccan government says he fundraises for terrorist groups over there.

00:12:02.520 I don't know if it's true.

00:12:03.340 That's what they say.

00:12:04.080 Oh, but no big deal.

00:12:06.020 I'm sure he's a good guy, a real natural ally for the Jews of Hampstead and Coat St.

00:12:12.060 Luke.

00:12:13.200 So, Adil Charkawi led the anti-Bill 21 march.

00:12:16.620 Let me quote from the Montreal Gazette of that rally.

00:12:19.840 A young woman wearing hijab who was interviewed on TV Sunday at the march organized by Adil Charkawi said,

00:12:29.700 Quebec is not a country.

00:12:31.060 I won't obey its laws.

00:12:33.700 Meanwhile, some people were chanting, Allahu Akbar, God is great.

00:12:37.540 So, these are the folks that the little Jewish enclave is standing up for.

00:12:44.200 Hey, guys, if you want to do some virtue signaling, buy a Prius, okay?

00:12:48.880 Don't support jihadists.

00:12:51.520 By the way, take a look at Charkawi's march.

00:12:56.100 There's no women allowed to stand next to the men in the first rank.

00:13:00.320 They're off to the sides.

00:13:01.420 That's the kind of separation that I guess is fine by the liberal Jewish Anglos, but not banning the burqa, that separation is not fine.

00:13:13.640 Can you do me a favor?

00:13:14.900 Can I do you a favor?

00:13:17.460 I'm going to read Bill 21 to you.

00:13:21.080 I don't know if these virtue signalers in Anglo-Jewish Montreal have read the bill, so can I read it to you so you know more than they do? 0.73

00:13:28.500 And not only will, I think it's, I think you'll support the bill, but you might actually want the bill for your own province, too.

00:13:38.700 So, let's just read the law, and you can be the judge of it.

00:13:42.000 Do you agree with these liberal Jews that this is ethnic cleansing, or do you agree with most Quebecers? 0.85

00:13:47.220 It's not.

00:13:47.720 Here it is.

00:13:48.360 It's called an act respecting the laicity of the state.

00:13:54.780 Now, laicity is an English translation of the French word for secularism.

00:14:00.300 It's sort of a French word.

00:14:02.120 That's what this bill is about.

00:14:03.280 The words Islam, or Muslim, or Jewish, or Christian, or black, or white, they do not appear in the bill at all, by the way.

00:14:12.420 Did you know that?

00:14:14.740 But sure, call it ethnic cleansing without a gun. 0.89

00:14:17.080 Let me read some of it to you.

00:14:18.480 I'll start with the explanatory notes at the beginning of this bill, which I think is pretty thoughtful.

00:14:24.040 Let me read it.

00:14:24.640 The purpose of this bill is to affirm the laicity of the state, to set out the requirements that follow from it.

00:14:33.580 To that end, the bill provides that the laicity of the state is based on four principles.

00:14:39.520 The separation of state and religions.

00:14:42.380 The religious neutrality of the state.

00:14:45.100 The equality of all citizens.

00:14:47.780 And freedom of conscience and freedom of religion.

00:14:50.000 Sorry, I can't find the ethnic cleansing part in there, can you?

00:14:55.220 Let me read some more.

00:14:58.000 Under the bill, personnel members of a body must exercise, that means a government body,

00:15:03.340 must exercise their functions with their face uncovered.

00:15:06.500 And persons who present themselves to receive a service from such a personnel member

00:15:10.540 must have their face uncovered when doing so is necessary to allow their identity to be verified for security reasons.

00:15:17.360 Persons who fail to comply with that obligation may not receive the service.

00:15:23.540 However, those obligations do not apply to persons whose face is covered for reasons of health or handicap

00:15:28.060 or because of the requirements tied to their functions or to the performance of certain tasks.

00:15:33.620 So, by the way, a hijab that's just a scarf, that's not banned with that part.

00:15:38.420 It's just a full ninja.

00:15:39.360 Ninja.

00:15:41.020 So, basically it's saying you can't wear a mask when you work for the government

00:15:45.420 or when you get services from the government.

00:15:48.520 Pretty much a basic element of all Western cultures.

00:15:51.600 In fact, there are laws in many jurisdictions against masks for reasons of safety alone.

00:15:58.020 Try going into your bank with a mask on.

00:16:00.900 Now, Quebec historically is a Catholic place.

00:16:03.200 And the bill says they're not going to erase their history.

00:16:08.080 Let me quote.

00:16:09.980 The bill's provisions prevail over those of any subsequent act unless expressly stated otherwise.

00:16:15.520 The bill may not be interpreted as affecting the emblematic or toponymic elements of Quebec's cultural heritage

00:16:22.380 that testify to its history.

00:16:24.140 Again, those are funny words translated from French to English, aren't they?

00:16:27.220 Basically, it says we're not going to knock down crosses and rename Montréal and things like that.

00:16:34.180 It seems sensible to me.

00:16:36.060 Let me know if you see anything racist yet, okay?

00:16:38.440 Let's jump into the formal part of the bill now.

00:16:40.620 These are the actual texts of the bill.

00:16:43.060 As the Quebec nation has its own characteristics, one of which is its civil law tradition, distinct social values,

00:16:49.100 and a specific history that have led it to develop a particular attachment to state laicity.

00:16:54.720 Okay, that's the preamble.

00:16:55.480 Can you doubt it?

00:16:56.740 More to the point, can any liberal like Anthony Housefather doubt it?

00:16:59.460 A liberal who has spent a generation telling us that Quebec is a distinct society?

00:17:03.500 That's all they're saying here.

00:17:04.340 Let me read some more.

00:17:05.780 As the Quebec nation attaches importance to the equality of men and women and men.

00:17:11.280 You know, I think most people still agree with that in Canada, but I'm guessing that in a few years to say that will be Islamophobic.

00:17:18.100 Okay, so far as I'll just throw clearing, here's the actual law.

00:17:22.100 That was a preamble.

00:17:22.760 Here's the law.

00:17:23.220 Section one, the state of Quebec is a lay state.

00:17:28.340 That means secular.

00:17:29.940 Two, the laicity, that means the secular nature of the state, is based on the following principles.

00:17:35.620 Number one, the separation of state and religions.

00:17:37.880 Number two, the religious neutrality of the state.

00:17:40.320 Number three, the equality of all citizens.

00:17:42.780 Number four, freedom of conscience and freedom of religion.

00:17:45.260 Okay, so what does that mean?

00:17:47.280 It sounds pretty good to me that the law explains it a bit.

00:17:50.180 Let me read some more.

00:17:51.700 State laicity, again, that's a funny word.

00:17:54.000 It just means secularism.

00:17:55.520 It means it's just not a religious state.

00:17:57.200 State laicity requires parliamentary, government, and judicial institutions to comply with the principles that they've outlined.

00:18:06.440 I just outlined the principles.

00:18:07.220 So you have to be religiously neutral.

00:18:09.220 You have to look religiously neutral, too.

00:18:12.540 We talk about racist, ethnic cleansing. 0.97

00:18:14.760 Where the heck did that mayor get that from?

00:18:16.240 Then the law lists various institutions that are covered.

00:18:19.160 And then it says this.

00:18:22.380 The persons listed in Schedule 2 are prohibited from wearing religious symbols in the exercise of their functions.

00:18:29.900 Pretty clear.

00:18:30.540 And you know what?

00:18:30.960 Pretty uncontroversial to me.

00:18:32.160 You don't see police officers pulling you over for speeding, wearing a huge honking crucifix on a necklace, do you?

00:18:38.880 No, because that's not a uniform man.

00:18:40.700 They have to be a neutral agent of the state.

00:18:42.200 Let me read some more.

00:18:42.780 Well, personnel members of a body, a government money, must exercise their functions with their face uncovered.

00:18:48.980 Yeah, are you shocked?

00:18:49.920 Let me read some more.

00:18:50.940 Similarly, persons who present themselves to receive a service from a personnel member of the body must have their face uncovered where doing so is necessary to allow their identity to be verified for security reasons.

00:19:01.780 Persons who fail to comply without obligation may not receive the service requested where applicable.

00:19:07.840 I'll read a little more.

00:19:08.720 For the purposes of the second paragraph, persons are deemed to be presenting themselves to receive a service when they are interacting or communicating with a personnel member of a body in the exercise of the personal member's functions.

00:19:20.000 Okay, I'm getting a bit technically here, but I can sum it up.

00:19:22.560 Take off your mask.

00:19:25.520 You're going to the driver's license office.

00:19:28.360 Take off your mask.

00:19:29.460 You're going to a government hospital.

00:19:30.760 Take off your mask.

00:19:31.680 You're in Canada now.

00:19:32.780 You don't have to be worried about the religious police beating you anymore.

00:19:36.800 You're free now.

00:19:37.700 You're in Canada now, unless you're worried about that here in Canada, too, about being beaten or attacked by some religious police if you take off your mask. 0.71

00:19:49.480 And if that's the case, then we have a big problem now, don't we?

00:19:53.560 Oh, and I think maybe we do, my friends.

00:19:55.100 I think maybe we do.

00:19:57.860 Maybe that's what the old Anglo-Jewish liberals are afraid of. 0.93

00:20:00.880 1.3 million Muslims in Canada.

00:20:02.760 Lots of nice folks.

00:20:03.660 Lots of liberal folks.

00:20:04.440 Lots of folks fleeing Sharia law.

00:20:07.700 But a fair share of Adil Charkawi's now, too.

00:20:11.100 Lots of Sharia law.

00:20:12.240 Lots of polygamous marriages.

00:20:13.940 Lots of Niqabs and Burkas now. 1.00

00:20:16.420 Here's how it went down in France.

00:20:18.300 Look at this.

00:20:18.860 A survey conducted in France in May 2003 found that 77% of girls wearing the hijab said they did so because of physical threats from Islamist groups.

00:20:29.840 That's 16 years ago.

00:20:32.860 More than three-quarters of women wore it just because they were worried of physical threats.

00:20:37.020 What percentage do you think it is here in Canada?

00:20:40.900 What percentage is acceptable to you?

00:20:44.380 Now, most of the rest of the law is technical provisions, amending other laws.

00:20:48.580 But then it lists the people who were referred to earlier.

00:20:51.660 I mentioned the different schedules or lists of categories of public servants.

00:20:55.760 You can see it basically covers all people who work for the government of Quebec.

00:21:01.380 This is the list of them.

00:21:02.960 Departments of the government, cities, commissions, schools that take money from the government, social services agencies that take money from the government.

00:21:10.040 And then Schedule 2 lists particular jobs, judges, prosecutors, cops, things like that.

00:21:19.260 And then Schedule 3 lists what they call persons considered to be personnel members of a body for the purposes of measures relating to services with face uncovered.

00:21:30.120 So this includes provincial legislators.

00:21:33.520 It includes doctors, dentists who take government money, child care places that take government money.

00:21:39.360 So this actually isn't a burqa ban.

00:21:41.580 I call it a burqa ban. 1.00

00:21:42.680 It's not a burqa ban, is it?

00:21:44.740 There will be as many burqas on the street in Montreal after this becomes law as before.

00:21:49.180 There will be women in burqas running daycares.

00:21:52.600 They just won't get government from the secular money from the secular government anymore.

00:21:57.880 That's why this law is called what it is, an act respecting the laicity of the state.

00:22:03.800 In that way, it's a bit of a cop-out.

00:22:05.900 But they're really only saying Quebec's government is secular.

00:22:10.640 They're too scared to say Quebec's society at large is secular or even just not Islamic.

00:22:16.880 They don't have that courage.

00:22:18.520 This is a tiny baby step.

00:22:20.560 No burqas on cops. 1.00

00:22:22.160 Okay, thanks.

00:22:22.880 You're so brave.

00:22:23.900 No burqas on doctors in government-funded hospitals. 1.00

00:22:27.500 You want to wear a burqa? 0.99

00:22:28.900 Fine, you can.

00:22:29.800 Just don't expect someone to pay you with tax dollars from the secular state.

00:22:33.380 So it's actually not as bold as you'll find in many other jurisdictions.

00:22:38.100 I mentioned France, where the burqa is actually banned in public in several Arab countries, too.

00:22:44.400 So that's the law.

00:22:45.440 That's Bill 21.

00:22:46.600 No mention of ethnicity, race, or religion.

00:22:48.840 I checked three times.

00:22:50.740 Other than all religions must be absent from the government equally, except for things of a historical nature. 0.98

00:22:56.820 Yeah.

00:22:57.220 Tell you what?

00:22:58.560 I'd like a bit of that law here in the rest of Canada, too.

00:23:01.200 And if those left-wing, self-hating Jews in Coat St. Luke or Hampstead love burqas so damn much,

00:23:08.280 I invite them to hire burqa-wearing extremists as their own kids' nannies. 1.00

00:23:15.960 Lead by example, you hypocrites.

00:23:19.080 And until you do, maybe shut up while Quebec is trying to figure out a way to save its 400-year-old culture, too.

00:23:26.760 Stay with us for more.

00:23:27.760 This is a message to Canada and all the American tawagheed. 1.00

00:23:45.820 We are coming, and we will destroy you, bithen Allahi ta'ala. 1.00

00:23:51.460 I made hijrah to this land for one reason alone.

00:23:55.800 I left comfort for one reason alone.

00:23:58.400 For Allah azza wa jal. 1.00

00:24:00.060 And inshaAllah, after Sham, after Iraq, after Jazeera, we are going for you, Barack Obama.

00:24:06.380 That is an excerpt from an ISIS propaganda video.

00:24:23.860 If memory serves, that was from around 2014, 2015, when ISIS was on the rise.

00:24:31.240 That's a Calgary boy, obviously, not born in Calgary.

00:24:34.820 But he became a Canadian, and as you heard him, he left comfort to join ISIS to rape, pillage, destroy, and set up the Islamic Caliphate. 0.92

00:24:42.800 Now, I think that man, Farrah Mohammed Sheardin, if I recall, I think he's dead now, but not before he wrought destruction. 1.00

00:24:51.640 And a new report by Stuart Bell and Global News has details and statistics showing that over the past several years,

00:25:02.940 Canadian terrorists, that is, terrorists who came from Canada, like that fellow we showed you there,

00:25:09.380 have murdered or wounded more than 300 people.

00:25:15.400 And joining us now via Skype from the West Coast is someone who actually worked at combating terrorists like that,

00:25:23.180 our friend Lee Humphrey, a Canadian military vet who is now the president of James International Security Consulting.

00:25:29.300 Great to see you again, Lee. Thanks for being with us.

00:25:32.380 Good to see you, Asher.

00:25:33.540 Well, thank you.

00:25:35.220 You know, seeing that Farrah Mohammed Sheardin there, and I think he was actually killed in combat,

00:25:39.820 but there were plenty like him who went overseas to rape, murder.

00:25:46.440 We'll never know the true extent of the damage done, but Stuart Bell has done some adding up,

00:25:53.260 and he's got a pretty big number, doesn't he?

00:25:55.740 He does indeed, and in fact, he's probably erring on the side of caution if, you know, we're being honest about this.

00:26:05.000 Now, the statistics from Global News, and I give them credit because these days, you know,

00:26:11.800 it's all in vogue to talk about the risk of the alt-right or white nationalists,

00:26:15.940 and I'm not saying that doesn't exist at all.

00:26:18.440 But Chrystia Freeland the other day announced, our foreign minister announced,

00:26:23.380 that the greatest threat in the world, she said, was neo-Nazis and Islamophobia.

00:26:29.300 She said that, but according to Stuart Bell, a Canadian-based terrorist murdered 127 people

00:26:39.800 and wounded 195, so that is more than 300.

00:26:47.380 I think that, and that's only since 2012.

00:26:50.500 That's a huge number.

00:26:52.440 That's huge.

00:26:53.440 I don't think most Canadians know that.

00:26:54.880 Yeah, so I find it disappointing, Ezra, that our foreign affairs minister would focus on one specific threat

00:27:03.540 and not understand you can focus your efforts on more than one threat.

00:27:07.940 Well, you know, the alt-right neo-Nazis, white supremacists are a threat indeed.

00:27:13.700 You have to look at the probability or likelihood of them using violence and then the impact of that.

00:27:20.620 And we have seen cases where they have done such a thing.

00:27:23.440 But at the same time, the results of Islamic terrorism around the world perpetrated by Canadians and others 0.98

00:27:33.340 at home and abroad are far, far higher.

00:27:37.440 They're far more likely, and the impact is far more deadly.

00:27:41.220 We're talking about large numbers of Canadians, some born in Canada, some who have immigrated to Canada,

00:27:48.480 and then left again to perpetrate terrorism around the world.

00:27:53.600 And we can't ignore that or pretend it doesn't exist.

00:27:57.220 Yeah.

00:27:57.600 You know, and the organization, we just saw a fellow there who was on a tank, I think.

00:28:04.140 So, you know, the geography, the military hardware, the collaboration,

00:28:09.600 and the underlying ideological justification and the moral support.

00:28:15.180 I mean, ISIS was not a...

00:28:17.980 I mean, it was criminal.

00:28:19.500 It was terrorist.

00:28:20.280 But it also had the blessing of its own religious leaders.

00:28:25.120 Now, we can say whether or not that represents the true Islam.

00:28:28.300 But they had...

00:28:29.160 I mean, their leader, al-Baghdadi, was a PhD in Islamic studies.

00:28:33.020 So they felt that they were doing things with the blessing of a leader.

00:28:38.500 I wonder how many of these terrorists who have gone abroad and failed,

00:28:45.760 because the Islamic State has basically been smashed over there,

00:28:48.860 how many of them are going to come back to Canada and try and pick up their terrorist project here now?

00:28:56.300 What do you think that...

00:28:58.020 You were mentioning probabilities and likelihoods.

00:29:02.500 Of all the cases Stuart Bell studied,

00:29:05.340 only 55 of them that we know of was the terrorist himself killed.

00:29:10.100 So we have hundreds of cases of Canadian terrorist murders

00:29:14.860 where the terrorists themselves are still alive.

00:29:17.500 They might be trying to come back to Canada.

00:29:20.280 Absolutely.

00:29:21.140 While the caliphate has been smashed as a physical caliphate,

00:29:25.620 the ideology hasn't changed.

00:29:27.340 We've seen Canadians that have gone abroad to work with Hezbollah, 0.99

00:29:32.580 to work with al-Qaeda,

00:29:34.460 to work with ISIS, 0.77

00:29:36.540 to work with al-Shabaab,

00:29:39.020 all Islamic terrorists, 0.90

00:29:40.720 but with slight variations on their interpretation of Islam.

00:29:47.700 At the end of the day,

00:29:48.920 their ideology doesn't change when they come home to Canada.

00:29:52.060 They still believe that using violence to achieve a political and religious aim is okay.

00:30:01.260 And if we don't take action against these folks the minute they set foot in Canada,

00:30:08.340 the minute we can get a hold of them if they're abroad,

00:30:10.740 then they are going to at some point attempt to recruit others and to continue the violence to achieve their aim,

00:30:21.600 which is this pure caliphate that will lead to a global dominance of Islam against all non-believers. 0.92

00:30:35.360 You know, I remember after 9-11, I'm that old, Lee.

00:30:40.920 I remember Canada struggling to update our laws and the United States also.

00:30:46.260 And one of the problems is when you're fighting terrorism,

00:30:49.360 or even if you're dealing with crimes in a wartime setting,

00:30:54.380 and of course, terrorists do not have the legal protections that a law-abiding soldier would have.

00:31:01.080 I mean, it's pretty apparent you can't use normal police or prosecution tools in a war zone or a terrorist zone.

00:31:08.280 You don't have the integrity of evidence.

00:31:11.040 The idea of beyond a reasonable doubt doesn't apply.

00:31:13.960 So we have all these laws on the books for almost 20 years now, Lee,

00:31:18.980 that make it enough that we prove someone went over there to join a terrorist group.

00:31:25.080 We don't have to prove what they did, that they supported a terrorist group in a material way.

00:31:30.140 That's all that has to be proven, because to prove who they murdered or who they raped in a battle is impossible.

00:31:36.860 Why haven't those laws that were actually drafted by the Chrétien Liberals back in 2001-2002,

00:31:45.840 why haven't those laws being deployed against returning terrorists?

00:31:49.980 I say again, you don't have to prove they actually murdered someone.

00:31:53.260 You just have to prove they went there or even just tried to go there.

00:31:57.480 Yeah, absolutely.

00:31:58.660 And that's really the crux of the matter here is we do now have sufficient laws on the books

00:32:04.720 as far as providing material support or attempting to provide material support to a terrorist organization.

00:32:12.840 And we have Canadians that have made videos.

00:32:16.360 We have travel records.

00:32:18.200 We have passport and immigration records.

00:32:21.260 But we need a political will, and that's where we fall short.

00:32:26.180 So the Justice Department takes its marching orders from the Attorney General,

00:32:31.840 and then we've learned a lot about this over the SNC-Lavalin case.

00:32:36.420 But the public prosecutors, they get guidelines from their political masters.

00:32:43.560 And unless the public puts pressure on the elected politicians,

00:32:49.480 then they're going to resort to being afraid, if you will, to use these laws that exist on the books.

00:32:58.440 And eventually, one of these individuals is going to come back to bite us in the butt in a big way,

00:33:05.880 and then we'll all reflectively go back and say, gee, why didn't we do anything?

00:33:10.360 We didn't know about this.

00:33:12.140 And that's not the case.

00:33:13.360 We do know who these individuals are.

00:33:15.940 We do have the ability to track them.

00:33:18.140 And we do have the ability to lock them up indefinitely

00:33:21.140 if under the existing laws, as you say, that were created during the Khrushchev administration.

00:33:28.860 You know, I've been watching.

00:33:31.580 I don't want to say it's coordinated, but the timing sure is funny.

00:33:37.460 How you have journalistic attempts to normalize ISIS terrorists who now just want to come home,

00:33:44.820 as if they regard the U.K., the U.S., Canada, Australia as their home.

00:33:49.260 They renounced their home.

00:33:50.800 They went to their, you know, utopia, ISIS. 0.58

00:33:54.280 It turned out to be hell.

00:33:55.840 Now they're—it's just amazing to me.

00:33:59.280 It feels like a PR campaign, especially in the United Kingdom.

00:34:03.080 There's this ISIS bride, Shemima Begum is her name. 0.99

00:34:06.620 And I can't believe the sympathetic coverage, these terrorists.

00:34:12.020 And the women may not have thrown grenades, 0.86

00:34:15.240 but they had Yazidi sex slaves in their house with their ISIS husband. 0.97

00:34:21.180 It's just shocking to me.

00:34:23.520 What should be done with people who are over there?

00:34:29.280 Do we have to take them back here and put them to prison?

00:34:31.980 Should we leave them with the Kurds? 1.00

00:34:33.520 What should we do to a Shemima Begum or the male terrorists who are now saying,

00:34:38.820 oh, I didn't really know what I was up to.

00:34:40.680 Can I come home to America?

00:34:43.240 Yeah, well, I think, you know, if I had faith in the existing—

00:34:48.920 that the existing laws that we have would be utilized

00:34:52.200 and that these folks would end up in prison for the rest of their natural lives,

00:34:57.780 then it would be much easier to accept that as Canadian citizens,

00:35:02.920 if they were born in Canada, they must be returned. 1.00

00:35:06.760 If they were immigrants to Canada, they've broken faith with Canada 1.00

00:35:11.820 and they can stay where they are and be dealt with by the authorities that captured them.

00:35:16.980 But I don't have faith that if they do return to Canada,

00:35:22.900 that they will be properly adjudicated and end up in prison for the rest of their lives.

00:35:28.100 And that includes the brides, but not the children of these fighters,

00:35:33.080 because they provided material support to terrorist organizations and their terrorist husbands.

00:35:39.580 So, you know, it's a catch-22.

00:35:42.880 We have the laws, but we don't have the will.

00:35:45.600 So right now, I'm more than happy to allow the Kurds to deal with this 1.00

00:35:49.720 and leave them where they are.

00:35:54.620 Yeah, I've got to be honest with you.

00:35:56.000 Not only do I agree with you that we wouldn't have the prosecutorial will to charge these terrorists,

00:36:03.220 I'm worried the reverse would happen,

00:36:05.320 that they would do an Omar Khadr and sue us somehow.

00:36:09.580 And Trudeau, I know he's made five payments now of $10 million.

00:36:13.900 The most famous is to Omar Khadr,

00:36:16.140 but there have been four other payments in the $10 million range

00:36:20.000 to other terrorists or accused terrorists whose rights have been violated.

00:36:24.400 I truly believe that these ISIS terrorists, if they came back, 0.99

00:36:28.760 would not only face no risk of prosecution,

00:36:30.940 but they would quite likely win the Trudeau lottery.

00:36:34.260 Last word to you.

00:36:35.400 Is there a lesson we should take from this study?

00:36:38.120 And again, credit to Stuart Bell and Global News,

00:36:40.940 because I think this kind of study is counter to the current liberal narrative.

00:36:46.140 What should we do?

00:36:47.760 What should we learn from this?

00:36:49.040 I'm just so glad it was reported.

00:36:51.920 Well, you know, I think first it's a wake-up call to Canadians 0.99

00:36:55.420 who somehow believe that we're immune from creating or allowing radicalization to take hold and take foot within Canada,

00:37:05.200 both with born in Canada Canadians and in our immigrant population.

00:37:11.480 And we need to recognize that that risk exists,

00:37:15.260 and we need to deal with it in the harshest possible ways.

00:37:20.900 When we understand somebody is radicalized,

00:37:23.960 when we receive notifications from imams or from family members

00:37:28.780 that are concerned about the direction their children are going in,

00:37:33.120 the government needs to do more than send a couple of people to try and talk them out of it.

00:37:37.740 They need to be really serious about what they're doing.

00:37:41.660 They need to dedicate resources to monitoring these people

00:37:45.020 and monitoring the circumstances that might have led to their radicalization.

00:37:49.560 If they do get out of the country,

00:37:52.100 they need to be arrested promptly upon return, held indefinitely,

00:37:57.700 and when the evidence is available, put on trial and sentenced to very long sentences

00:38:05.200 to deter future terrorists from attempting to follow the same path.

00:38:12.120 Yeah.

00:38:12.500 Well, I agree with you on what we should do.

00:38:14.740 Whether or not we will do that is a huge question mark these days.

00:38:18.020 Lee, it's great to have you back on the show.

00:38:19.320 Thanks for your time today.

00:38:21.280 Absolutely, Ezra.

00:38:22.100 Thank you.

00:38:22.680 All right.

00:38:22.980 There you have it.

00:38:23.440 Lee Humphrey.

00:38:24.220 He's the president of James International Security Consulting.

00:38:26.940 Of course, he is a military veteran himself.

00:38:30.440 Stay with us.

00:38:31.500 More ahead on The Rebel.

00:38:42.960 Hey, welcome back.

00:38:44.060 On my monologue yesterday about CBC's propaganda aimed at kids,

00:38:47.900 Deborah writes,

00:38:49.360 using children to manipulate and deceive other children for a political agenda is disgusting.

00:38:53.100 You're right, and it's so inappropriate.

00:38:57.600 And I saw that some of those child actors have Twitter accounts,

00:39:02.560 and I checked Twitter's terms of service,

00:39:04.500 and you have to be 13 to have a Twitter account.

00:39:06.800 So you've got nine and 11-year-old kids on Twitter with their propaganda,

00:39:13.320 which I guess, like, are they really even writing those,

00:39:16.380 or are they just weird, weird prompts for whom?

00:39:18.700 Who are their parents?

00:39:20.980 Who's setting this up?

00:39:22.200 I know for a fact that CBC would not put a child of tender years on TV saying crazy stuff

00:39:28.960 without the permission, cooperation, or even instigation of their parents.

00:39:34.700 This is a weird screw-with-your-mind kind of move.

00:39:37.800 I'm sorry, it just is.

00:39:39.760 Bruce writes,

00:39:40.860 traumatizing children is terrible and highly unethical.

00:39:43.240 Let's hope these kids grow up and realize that the earth isn't going to be destroyed by us

00:39:48.460 wanting to keep warm and go places.

00:39:51.360 Yeah, well, I think besides learning the cult-like language of global warmingism,

00:39:57.580 these kids are also learning something else along the way, hypocrisy.

00:40:01.420 Because they live in Canada, which means they burn fossil fuels to stay warm.

00:40:06.100 They burn fossil fuels to move around.

00:40:08.020 They wear items made of polyester, plastics, whatever artificial fibers we use.

00:40:15.280 So they're learning at a very early age not only the language of the climate cult,

00:40:19.840 but also how to make mental reservations.

00:40:23.160 I remember a few years ago I went to some big rally in Toronto called Jobs, Justice, and Climate,

00:40:29.680 and I actually bumped into Catherine Porter, who then was a reporter with the Toronto Star,

00:40:35.760 talking about how righteous she is.

00:40:37.900 And I said, do you have a car?

00:40:39.520 She said, oh, yes, I do.

00:40:40.880 And I said, well, why don't you have a Prius?

00:40:44.180 And they always, every single person in that rally had a car.

00:40:48.060 I remember to this day, I would always ask them, do you have a car?

00:40:51.440 Yes.

00:40:51.920 Why?

00:40:52.400 Oh, because I need it.

00:40:53.620 Oh, okay.

00:40:54.840 Anyways.

00:40:55.600 On my interview with Manny Montagrino, Paul writes,

00:40:58.440 Trudeau's legal team is weak because they have to put up with Trudeau.

00:41:01.500 He's very arrogant, very incompetent, and seems to get quite angry when he doesn't get his way.

00:41:07.380 Right.

00:41:07.800 Well, that's one of the tough things about being a lawyer.

00:41:10.300 I remember in law school, I first heard the shocking comment by a professor,

00:41:14.940 the client is your enemy.

00:41:17.140 I thought, what on earth are you talking about?

00:41:18.860 The client is our focus, are we?

00:41:21.240 Are we here to help the client?

00:41:22.660 And the answer was, no, no, they're not their enemy.

00:41:25.280 You don't hate them.

00:41:26.080 You just, they are going to undermine you.

00:41:28.120 They're going to undo you.

00:41:29.080 They're not going to listen to you.

00:41:30.340 They're going to go off course.

00:41:31.860 They're going to wreck things.

00:41:33.220 That's what the client is your enemy means.

00:41:34.900 It doesn't mean that you morally oppose them.

00:41:36.980 It means they're going to screw it up.

00:41:38.580 And imagine trying to be a lawyer, very slowly and calmly telling Justin Trudeau,

00:41:43.640 this is a bad idea, and him pouting and saying, do it anyways.

00:41:49.060 I don't know.

00:41:49.820 I can't imagine that Julian Porter, Julian Porter is a lawyer.

00:41:52.420 It's the dad of that Catherine Porter I mentioned a moment ago.

00:41:55.100 Julian Porter is a lawyer for Justin Trudeau.

00:41:57.680 I can't imagine he needs the money.

00:42:00.980 I mean, maybe he thinks it's cool to be the prime minister's lawyer.

00:42:04.460 It sort of is cool.

00:42:05.800 But not when you're writing such a dumb letter as that.

00:42:10.140 I don't get it.

00:42:10.960 I just don't get it.

00:42:12.080 And I'm not just saying that because I lean conservative.

00:42:14.240 I lean against Trudeau.

00:42:15.200 That is a dumb and crazy letter.

00:42:18.120 Grace writes, please stop showing that.

00:42:21.540 Catherine McKenna screeching about last summer clip.

00:42:23.860 I have to keep skipping over it to spare my ears.

00:42:27.260 Well, listen, if I agree with you, but part of what we do here is we look at the bad things

00:42:36.200 and warn and explain why they're bad.

00:42:39.100 I mean, that CBC Kids News, for example, it is awful.

00:42:44.120 I don't enjoy it.

00:42:45.320 It drives me crazy.

00:42:46.380 It raises my blood pressure.

00:42:48.320 My kids don't watch it.

00:42:50.640 But the reason I do is because I want to ring the alarm about it.

00:42:54.500 So forgive me for showing you the crazy stuff we got to know about it.

00:42:58.160 But no, I take your point.

00:42:59.620 It's just so screechy.

00:43:01.440 All right.

00:43:02.400 Well, that's our show for today.

00:43:03.200 What do you think?

00:43:03.600 Do you think it was too tough on those Anglo-Jews in Montreal?

00:43:06.640 I just, I mean, I looked up those little towns they're from.

00:43:11.620 They're like little Jewish shtetl is the word for the little Jewish towns in Europe.

00:43:16.560 It's like a kibbutz, like Hampstead. 1.00

00:43:18.040 I think it's 75% Jewish.

00:43:20.260 They don't have daycares run by women wearing the cabs in Hampstead. 0.86

00:43:25.780 They don't.

00:43:26.380 And so for these all-white, all-Jewish communities to tell the rest of Quebec 1.00

00:43:31.460 that they're not allowed to preserve the Quebec culture,

00:43:34.380 sorry, that's just a little bit rich.

00:43:35.660 And speaking as a Jew, I find it a little bit embarrassing

00:43:37.980 because Jews like to keep their ethnic identity, their religious identity,

00:43:41.880 their historical identity.

00:43:43.000 Why do Jews in Montreal get to do that but not Quebecois? 0.98

00:43:47.700 Anyways, you can let me know what you think about that in the letters.

00:43:50.980 Until next time, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters,

00:43:53.760 to you at home, good night.

00:43:55.220 Keep fighting for freedom.

00:43:56.380 Until next time.

00:43:57.380 黑 washed white white,

00:43:59.560 The good kibbutz hat has. 0.77

00:44:01.460 Goodbye.

00:44:01.740 Goodbye.

00:44:02.520 Sorry.

00:44:03.220 Bye.

00:44:03.560 Bye.

00:44:03.620 Goodbye.

00:44:06.160 Bye.

00:44:06.480 Bye.

00:44:06.900 Bye.

00:44:08.980 Bye.

00:44:10.760 Bye.

00:44:10.980 Bye.

00:44:11.720 Bye.

00:44:11.900 Bye.

Rebel News Podcast - April 10, 2019

What the mainstream media isn’t telling you about Quebec’s proposed anti-niqab law

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