Rebel News Podcast - What the Media Party won’t tell you about Don Cherry

00:00:00.000 Hello, Rebels. I learned something last night, and that was that Don Cherry's broadcast was

00:00:06.480 not live to TV. I guess I should have known that. It was pre-recorded, and in fact, it

00:00:10.980 aired on three separate occasions over the weekend. And the reason that's relevant is

00:00:16.740 because on none of those occasions did Sportsnet object. Not at the executive level, not at

00:00:23.400 the show level, not even at the co-host level, Ron Judas McLean. And that's interesting,

00:00:29.420 and that teaches us a little bit about where this outrage mob came from. I'm going to talk a bit

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00:01:12.740 Tonight, what the media party won't tell you about Don Cherry. It's November 12th,

00:01:33.100 and this is The Ezra Levant Show. Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon

00:01:39.640 consumer I know? There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer. The only thing I

00:01:45.460 have to say to the government, the wire publisher, is because it's my bloody right to do so.

00:01:50.580 So Don Cherry was fired for pointing out an observable empirical fact. Not a lot of Canadians 1.00

00:02:04.140 wear Remembrance Day poppies, and new Canadians often don't understand the importance of them.

00:02:11.360 I'm not really sure how you would even argue against either of those facts. Actually, I am.

00:02:17.680 You would call Don Cherry a racist, even though he didn't talk about race. You could say he divided

00:02:25.160 Canadians, even though his purpose was obviously the opposite, to unite us all in the custom of

00:02:33.080 remembering our war dead who sacrificed. He wants to teach newcomers our ways. Watch this again. I

00:02:40.740 remember when I first saw it on the weekend. I swear my first reaction was, oh, there's got to be

00:02:45.920 another clip that got him into trouble. This isn't the one, obviously, because how could this be the

00:02:51.600 one that got him in trouble? Is there another one? No. This is the one.

00:02:57.280 You know, I was talking to a veteran. I said, I'm not going to run the poppy thing anymore, 0.92

00:03:01.200 because what's the sense? I live in Mississauga. Nobody wears, very few people wear a poppy.

00:03:07.600 Downtown Toronto, forget it. Downtown Toronto, nobody wears a poppy. And I'm not going to, he says,

00:03:12.100 wait a minute. How about running it for the people that buy them? Now you go to the small cities and

00:03:17.860 you know, you, you know, those, the rows on rows, you people love you. They come here, whatever it is.

00:03:23.840 You love our way of life. You love our milk and honey. At least you could pay a couple of bucks for

00:03:29.440 poppies or something like that. These guys pay for your way of life that you enjoy in Canada. These guys

00:03:35.920 paid the biggest price. Anyhow, I'm going to run it again for you. Great people and good Canadians.

00:03:42.100 They've bought a poppy. I'm still going to run it. Anyhow, I love you for it.

00:03:48.260 Here we are November 11th. We're in Sri Lankan British Cemetery in France.

00:03:54.980 On November 11th, I want everybody to remember when you're buying a poppy and you see row after row of our

00:04:02.980 Canadian dead here. And I'm going to put here the visited Thomas William McKenzie military medal and

00:04:11.860 bar Canadian field artillery died seven days before the end of the war, 27 years old.

00:04:19.460 So when you're walking by and you see our great legions, guys standing there and they offer you a

00:04:26.500 poppy. Think of all this. These guys gave their lives. At least you can buy a poppy.

00:04:33.380 Here's what I didn't know about that broadcast until last night. Now, obviously,

00:04:40.260 this segment he taped in the cemetery was pre-taped, but that first clip where he was with

00:04:46.740 McLean, that was pre-taped too. The live commentary that Ron McLean said, we love you for it, and gave

00:04:54.260 him the thumbs up, that was pre-taped too. Because of how their broadcast schedule works and the time zones,

00:05:00.260 apparently that was actually broadcast three times that night with no incident. And what I mean by

00:05:07.860 that is everyone liked it. No one was offended by it. It was Don Cherry being Don Cherry, being a bit

00:05:15.060 of a character, talking the way he does that, that patented way. And what a great message. Let's all

00:05:21.140 support the veterans and the legion and buy poppies and remember the war dead. Imagine a 27 year old

00:05:28.100 dying just seven days before the war ended. How sad is that? Oh, and hey, new Canadians, 0.99

00:05:34.500 get with the program and join us to learn our customs. They'll do a little teaching,

00:05:39.940 which is something that in a normal country would be taught to new citizens anyways. But

00:05:45.140 this is Canada and we don't do it, so Don Cherry does. A bit of a tangent. Remember that Syrian refugee 1.00

00:05:52.740 who came to New Brunswick under Justin Trudeau? He was the hero in a documentary about how awesome

00:05:59.380 Syrian refugees are. And then not long afterwards he was convicted of, I shouldn't laugh, of beating 0.99

00:06:05.540 his wife with a hockey stick for half an hour. And he told the judge, I'm not kidding, he said

00:06:12.500 the Syrian who was the hero of that documentary, who beat his wife bloody with a hockey stick for half an

00:06:18.100 hour. He told the judge that no one had told him he couldn't do that in Canada. How was he supposed

00:06:24.820 to know? Now that's deception, of course. That's, that's a lie. He, he surely sensed that he couldn't

00:06:32.740 do that. He's not in Syria anymore. But technically, technically, literally, I'm sure it's true. I'm sure 1.00

00:06:41.220 that no one ever said to him, you can't be a savage. You can't take a hockey stick and smash your wife

00:06:48.020 because we all just, you know, we assume it. But how could you assume that? Assuming that someone

00:06:55.380 knows something, that's only if we come from the same place, speak the same language, read the same

00:07:00.500 books, have the same history, believe the same things, share the same heroes and villains, have the

00:07:04.900 same values. There's a word for all that, culture. But we, we are told that Canada doesn't have a

00:07:10.980 culture. We're post-national, Trudeau himself says it. The only culture we have is multi-culturalism.

00:07:16.980 Diversity is our strength. It's racist and Islamophobic to tell a man he can't beat his wife with a hockey

00:07:23.060 stick, so no one told that to the man. And he beat his wife with a hockey stick. And even in court,

00:07:28.580 he was saying, no one told me. So how is someone new to Canada supposed to know why and how we wear

00:07:38.020 poppies? If they don't know, don't beat someone with a hockey stick. What's that poppy about,

00:07:44.020 this little flower? Why is everyone wearing a flower? No one told them. Perhaps if they came

00:07:48.420 to Canada from a European country that was involved in World War I, but otherwise, how would you even

00:07:53.380 know what a poppy symbolizes? What would even symbolize? Look at the top 10 countries from

00:07:59.220 which Canada takes immigrants. Now, France is one of them. The UK is another way down on the list there. 0.71

00:08:07.300 But the other eight, they don't know where Flanders is. They don't know what Flanders Field is.

00:08:16.500 If you ask them what the Great War was, they wouldn't know you were talking about World War I

00:08:22.900 in Europe. They wouldn't know what Vimy Ridge is. They wouldn't know what Ypres is. Few enough

00:08:28.740 Canadians know that. How would someone who just came here from China or India or Pakistan or Bangladesh

00:08:35.380 know those things? And who is teaching them? Well, Don Cherry is trying to teach them. That's who.

00:08:42.660 But that's racist, you see. It's racist to say to newcomers, you love the good stuff. You love our

00:08:48.980 milk and honey. But hey, spare a moment for people who years ago gave their lives to make this wonderful

00:08:54.820 country. Let me teach you about it. Let me show you a video from a graveyard in France.

00:09:01.540 So no one at Rogers Sportsnet was offended by this. No one was. It aired three times that night. No one was

00:09:10.820 offended. Ron McClain was not offended. You saw him give him the thumbs up. We love you.

00:09:18.020 The cameraman. There were probably several cameramen. They were not offended.

00:09:23.300 No one in the control room. That's where the producers and editors were watching. Probably

00:09:28.740 half a dozen people there. No one in the executive suites at Rogers Sportsnet who were surely watching

00:09:34.340 their flagship show. No one in the whole company objected at all because there was nothing to object

00:09:42.740 to. There was no real problem. It was not offensive. Certainly not more than any 85-year-old man is who

00:09:49.780 says things that aren't exquisitely up to the minute of rhetorical fashion. He doesn't say it's lit,

00:09:56.900 fam, or whatever the latest millennial jargon is. I think, let me give you an example of what I mean. The phrase

00:10:02.580 is indigenous. It's replaced the word aboriginal, which itself replaced the word Indian.

00:10:13.140 And if you say the wrong term, you're clearly a racist if you say Indian. Unless, of course, 0.86

00:10:19.780 if you are Indian. Here's Chief Clarence Louis. If you're Indian yourself, you're allowed to use those words.

00:10:28.020 Most Indians I know actually love Indian brand clothing, you know, the Indian motorcycle brand.

00:10:33.780 They love to wear the Atlanta Braves ball cap, that sort of thing. I mean, why wouldn't you?

00:10:39.620 Those show Indian-ness as something strong and cool. But if you use the wrong word, you're a racist.

00:10:49.540 Don Cherry said, you people. But not in a negative way. He wasn't talking to anyone out there

00:10:56.820 who was of this race or that race. He was saying, you people who aren't wearing poppies.

00:11:02.260 Newcomers, let me help show you. But is that racist? Where's the race part? Of course,

00:11:07.060 that's not racist. But he wasn't exquisitely perfect. He was like someone saying aboriginal 0.95

00:11:11.540 instead of indigenous. He wasn't quite fashionable enough. Of course, of course, what he did was not 0.75

00:11:19.940 racist. And no one real thought so. And no one really thought so. It took help from professional

00:11:27.220 liars, professional offense takers, like Don Cherry's longtime rival at the CBC, Peter Mansbridge.

00:11:34.180 He said, the notion that Canada's veterans were all white is dangerously wrong and an insult to

00:11:44.820 thousands, says Peter Mansbridge. Who said any of those things, liar?

00:11:53.540 Puppy-wearing newcomers challenge now fired Don Cherry's immigrant rant. What immigration rant?

00:12:05.140 Challenge what? Here, watch it again. You know, I was talking to a veteran. I said,

00:12:10.500 I'm not going to run the poppy thing anymore because what's the sense? I live in Mississauga.

00:12:14.500 Nobody wears, very few people wear a poppy. Downtown Toronto, forget it. Downtown Toronto,

00:12:20.980 nobody wears a poppy. And I'm not going to, he says, wait a minute. How about running it for the

00:12:25.940 people that buy them? Now you go to the small cities and you know, you know, those, the roads on roads,

00:12:31.940 you people love you. They come here, whatever it is. You love our way of life. You love our milk and

00:12:37.620 honey. At least you can pay a couple of bucks for poppies or something like that. These guys pay

00:12:43.540 for your way of life that you enjoy in Canada. These guys paid the biggest price. Anyhow,

00:12:49.860 I'm going to run it again for you. Great people and good Canadians that bought a poppy. I'm still

00:12:55.140 going to run it. Anyhow, love you for it. Yeah. Where was the racist part? Where was the no

00:13:02.980 immigrants part? You're lying again, CBC. You just can't stop lying. I saw the Canadian Legion

00:13:10.020 actually try to embarrass and slander Don Cherry. Look at this tweet from their official account.

00:13:15.220 Mr. Cherry's personal opinion was hurtful, divisive, and in no way condoned by the Legion.

00:13:20.980 Oh, we do remain appreciative of his passion and support for veterans though. First of all,

00:13:25.860 no one said you condoned it, you busybodies. Second of all, you're almost as disloyal as Ron

00:13:31.220 McLean, who disparaged Don Cherry to please his corporate masters and save his own job.

00:13:37.700 I wanted to address what happened last night on hockey night in Canada. Don Cherry made remarks

00:13:43.780 which were hurtful, discriminatory, which were flat out wrong. We at Sportsnet have apologized. It

00:13:50.500 certainly doesn't stand for what Sportsnet or Rogers represents. We know diversity is the strength of

00:13:55.700 the country. We see it in the travels with our show and with hockey night in Canada. So I owe you an

00:14:02.260 apology too. That's the big thing that I want to emphasize. I sat there, did not catch it, did not

00:14:07.300 respond. Catherine Denise, it's on a First Nation, once said in any wrongdoing, the real key is recognition

00:14:15.220 and acknowledgement. And I wanted to let you know that first and then you work on the relationship

00:14:21.300 so that it isn't divisive, so that something can be a unifying event. Idle No More was a great lesson

00:14:27.380 to all of us. Last night was a really great lesson to Don and me. We were wrong and I sincerely

00:14:32.980 apologize and I wanted to thank you for calling me and Don on that last night.

00:14:37.140 You Judas, you Brutus, you liar, you betrayer, you disloyal fake friend. You just said you didn't

00:14:47.220 notice it. You didn't respond. Stop lying. We saw you. You nodded. You gave a thumbs up and said,

00:14:52.900 that's why we love you, Don. You threw your friend under the bus to save yourself. You coward Ron

00:14:59.220 McClain. You coward. At least we know why Ron McClain is disloyal. He wants to fit in at Sportsnet.

00:15:06.900 He wanted to save his own job, which obviously was on the line. He values money more than loyalty

00:15:12.020 or friendship or frankly the truth. It's true that he approved of Don Cherry's statement. We saw it.

00:15:22.580 And Sportsnet did too. They aired it three times with no objection. What's the Legion's excuse?

00:15:28.980 Who signed that anonymous attack on Don Cherry? I'm a member of the Legion.

00:15:32.900 That anonymous Twitter account doesn't speak for me. Was that just a social media intern who approved

00:15:37.940 that tweet? I didn't. I think the Legion needs to find out what's going on. I can tell you if there

00:15:42.500 was a survey of Legion members, it would be 10 to one in Don Cherry's favor. I mean, there was probably

00:15:48.340 no Canadian who did more for veterans and serving soldiers and the memory of fallen soldiers than Don

00:15:54.020 Cherry. Can you think of anyone else who did? Who went over there as much as Don Cherry did at his age,

00:16:01.220 mind you, into a war zone, mind you? Yeah, not the CBC. They don't support our troops.

00:16:08.820 They support Al-Qaeda terrorists. I'm not exaggerating. They literally threw a champagne 0.91

00:16:14.020 party for Omar Khadr. Look at that disco ball. They have disco ball. They have a standing ovation.

00:16:21.220 Woo! Terrorists, we love you. Yeah, have some champagne. Champagne.

00:16:26.100 That was Omar Khadr on the CBC this year. That's whose side they're on. Have you seen the kind of

00:16:35.300 rage against Don Cherry? Have you seen that kind of rage against anyone who actually is evil? Instead

00:16:41.460 of just maybe use the word imperfectly. Have you seen the media party rage against Al-Qaeda, against

00:16:47.540 ISIS, against a foreign dictator in that way? Yeah, no, me neither. Now on paper, Sportsnet is a private

00:16:54.500 company. But of course, in Canada, there are no truly private TV companies. It's owned by Rogers,

00:17:00.180 which is a TV company and a cable company and a cell phone company. Other than maybe a cigarette

00:17:05.700 manufacturer, there's certainly no other industry that is as closely regulated by the government and

00:17:10.900 that is so completely at the mercy of the government. An unkind word from the CRTC, that's the TV cable

00:17:17.140 cell phone regulator, could cost millions or even billions of dollars to Rogers. The CRTC are the ones who

00:17:23.300 killed the Sun News Network five years ago. So yeah, I guess Sportsnet fired Don Cherry for business

00:17:29.700 reasons. But really, when liberal MPs, including cabinet ministers like Harjeet Sajan, start tweeting that he

00:17:35.860 has to be fired, it's not a case of free speech or corporate decision making anymore. At Sportsnet, it's about

00:17:41.620 making sure your political regulator is pleased with you. And when liberal MPs say fire him, if you're regulated by the

00:17:48.660 liberal MPs, you fire him. He's the editor of the Globe and Mail, the executive editor over there. His name is Derek

00:17:54.660 DeCloet. He has a theory. He says Sportsnet just grabbed an opportunity to save some money. Cherry made a ton of money.

00:18:03.860 He was long past his best before date. Everyone knew that. He wasn't going to retire on his own. Eventually, they were going to

00:18:12.660 have to move him out. And then he presented them with the perfect opportunity to do so. Really? What you know, it was a

00:18:20.160 $5 billion broadcast deal. What was Don Cherry getting a couple million bucks a year? And they didn't know what they were

00:18:26.180 getting. And they don't know you just making that up. You can't sack someone like that in a humiliating manner, by the way,

00:18:33.700 without paying them a massive severance. I'm sure Don Cherry had a meticulously lawyered contract with all sorts of built in

00:18:40.640 protections for Cherry. Sportsnet couldn't claim they had no idea they were hiring a controversial person. They

00:18:46.240 couldn't claim they were truly upset with what he said. They aired it three times in a row without comment. They

00:18:50.820 weren't reacting to Don Cherry. They didn't fire Don Cherry for anything he did. They fired him because of the mob or

00:18:56.200 more to the point, because the Trudeau liberals told him to. I showed you the tweets. No, I don't think Sportsnet did this

00:19:02.340 to save money on their contract. They probably had to pay him out his entire contract to sack him.

00:19:11.020 They fired him to please the Twitter mob, including the liberal MPs. Again, not because they're worried

00:19:17.600 that Don Cherry fans are going to stop watching Don Cherry because you had a Don Cherry moment,

00:19:22.420 but that Justin Trudeau would punish them like Justin Trudeau punishes anyone with whom he has a quarrel.

00:19:28.660 He punishes them, even his own attorney general. I believe we're seeing what life is going to be

00:19:34.360 like in a second term of Justin Trudeau. It's what life would be like in the United States had Hillary

00:19:40.640 Clinton won. You know, the Japanese have a word. I haven't heard it recently, but it was all the rage in

00:19:46.460 the 80s and the 90s. The word is kiritsu. Kiritsu. Here's the definition from Webster's.

00:19:53.900 A powerful alliance of Japanese businesses often linked by cross shareholding. So a bank would own

00:20:04.660 shares in a car company and the car company would own shares in the bank and both would own shares

00:20:09.640 in the shipping company. You see what I mean? It's more than just a company. It's more than a clan or

00:20:16.360 fraternity. It's less than a religion. It's definitely a big team or a big family and everyone's got each

00:20:23.040 other's back. That's a kiritsu. Justin Trudeau and the social media companies, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube,

00:20:32.800 and the news companies, CTV Global, Rogers, Sportsnet. That's a kiritsu. It's all an inside job. It's all 1.00

00:20:43.500 friends. Ton Cherry just had to go. The liberal MP said so. And so it happened. The other part of the

00:20:51.560 kiritsu listened to the first part of the kiritsu and the CBC helped. They backfilled it by

00:20:56.060 manufacturing the fake reasons later. And who stood up for Don Cherry?

00:21:00.720 Well, that's the thing. In Japan, there are rival kiritsus. There's more than one bank. There's more

00:21:09.240 than one car company. It's an oligopoly. They're not a monopoly. Standing up to one kiritsu would be a 1.00

00:21:15.420 different bank, a different car company. There's Toyota and there's Honda and there's Nissan. It's not

00:21:19.920 just one big blob. In Canada, there's just one big blob. Andrew Scheer has been AWOL in this whole

00:21:30.500 debate. He doesn't want to be Don Cherry'd. He made that decision long ago. He'll be quiet. I'm not

00:21:36.860 saying he should have gone full tilt for Don Cherry. But how about even a reasonable, really moderate

00:21:42.920 statement? Support for veterans, support for immigrants, and then becoming loyal, informed

00:21:49.740 citizens. A real opportunity to say something like that. A support for free speech. You could find a

00:21:56.300 moderate way of talking about this, but Andrew Scheer is too timid. He's lost his nerve. Not that he ever

00:22:02.340 had much to begin with. He's terrified of this mob, the kiritsu that just took Don Cherry out. 1.00

00:22:07.800 They're the same kiritsu he's tried to appease and please with no luck. Don Cherry was the last of the

00:22:15.520 mainstream media pop culture conserves. He was the last one. There are no more. Trudeau knows it.

00:22:24.160 The legacy media know it. Now they'll just go in and mop up the few irregulars left, probably like us 0.98

00:22:31.100 here at the Rebel. We'll see. I guess my point is, you don't truly think that Don Cherry will be the

00:22:39.160 last conservative to be silenced. Do you? Stay with us more. Up next, an interview I do with

00:22:47.020 Yasmin Mohamed. I did it a few days ago, but we've held it until today.

00:22:51.520 Welcome back. Well, it's been too long since we've spoken to our next guest, our friend Yasmin

00:23:08.420 Mohamed. And the good news is she has been busy working on a new book called Unveiled,

00:23:15.300 How Western Liberals Empower Radical Islam. And the book so far has a perfect five-star rating on 0.95

00:23:23.860 Amazon. What a pleasure to have you back on the show, Yasmin. Welcome back.

00:23:29.620 Thank you so much for having me, Yasmin. I really appreciate it.

00:23:31.920 Well, it's our pleasure. I remember when you told me you were working on this book and it's out now.

00:23:36.400 Let me read just one sentence from the blurb of it, and then I would like you to take off from there

00:23:41.160 and tell our folks what's inside. But I love how it's described here. Ready? Let me read.

00:23:47.740 Part Ayan Hirsi Ali's Infidel, part The Handmaid's Tale, Yasmin's memoir takes readers into a world

00:23:55.900 few Westerners are privy to. As a college educator for over 15 years, Yasmin's goal is to unveil the

00:24:01.880 truth. Is FGM, female genital mutilation, Islamic or cultural? Is the hijab forced or a choice?

00:24:11.900 Is ISIS a representation of true Islam or a radical corruption? And why is there so much 1.00

00:24:18.160 conflicting information? Wow, those are issues we think about all the time. I don't want you to

00:24:24.760 give away all of the answers online. We want people to buy the book. But tell us a little bit about how

00:24:30.400 you work through these issues. Well, I worked through them by basically telling my story. So it's a memoir,

00:24:37.460 but also a polemic. So throughout my story, I'm also highlighting all of the other people around

00:24:44.420 the world who have gone through similar things. So there are major themes, you know, like hijab,

00:24:51.660 like the things that I mentioned there, FGM, child marriages, you know, all of the themes that you

00:24:59.440 would expect to hear somewhere in the Middle East or somewhere in the Muslim world. And I'm just 0.99

00:25:04.800 clarifying to readers that that kind of thing happens all over the world, because these ideas

00:25:09.940 cross borders, you know, they don't just stop in the in the countries under Sharia. But the people that

00:25:16.520 believe these things, travel to other countries, and they continue with having their own little,

00:25:22.620 you know, mini Sharias, I lived under Sharia in my household in Canada. So, you know, the people that 1.00

00:25:30.800 I relate to the most more than anybody are women in Saudi Arabia, because that was the life that I kind

00:25:36.480 of lived. And it's unfortunate now online. I mean, it's fortunate and unfortunate, but we're,

00:25:43.620 we get to hear all of the stories of all of the people all over the world that we really thought

00:25:48.980 these kinds of things just happen in Afghanistan. No, they're happening in our in our very own

00:25:53.480 backyards. Wow, little islands of Sharia that we don't even know about or don't even see. Well, 1.00

00:25:59.020 I think we see them, actually, we have glimpses of them more and more on the street. Let me come back

00:26:04.740 to the subtitle of your book, how Western liberals empower radical Islam. I think I know what that 0.68

00:26:14.020 means. But I'd like to hear what you mean by that. Well, I think it's just that we, for some reason,

00:26:21.640 we put our common sense on the back burner when it comes to Islam. It's the most ludicrous thing. So 1.00

00:26:27.940 when we talk about the niqab, for example, or the burqa, as it's sometimes called, so it's the full

00:26:32.340 face covering head to toe, you know, just eyes showing women are even wearing gloves. And a lot 0.98

00:26:39.000 of the times it's happening in countries where the, you know, the summers can go upwards of 50 degrees

00:26:44.240 Celsius. And we look at something like that. And somehow, people can say that that's empowering,

00:26:51.560 or worse, it's liberating. I mean, the most atrocious things like these are human beings covered

00:26:58.740 in death shrouds. And then you have somebody like PJ Harvey, who is a musician from the UK,

00:27:07.580 she goes to Afghanistan to film one of her music videos. And she said that her favorite part of

00:27:14.300 being in Afghanistan was wearing a burqa. She called it liberating. I mean, it's it just defies all 1.00

00:27:24.240 logic. They would never, ever consider it liberating if they were living in a country where they were

00:27:31.900 forced to cover themselves head to toe. They would be they would, I mean, for goodness sake, women here 0.98

00:27:38.400 are fighting for the right to go topless. But when it's women over there, somehow for them, it's 1.00

00:27:45.860 considered empowering and it's liberating. How are they any human, you know, any less human than we are

00:27:51.540 over here? We're all human beings. And nobody wants to be covered in a death shroud like that.

00:27:56.960 You know, it's funny, the phrase in the blurb, it's the infidel meets the handmaid's tale. I'm so 0.97

00:28:04.880 frustrated when I watch that handmaid's tale. And I don't watch it a lot. But I know it was revived as a

00:28:12.200 counterpoint to Donald Trump and the theocracy he wants to impose on America. And I haven't seen any evidence

00:28:20.940 of women being having their rights taken away in America and turned into nothing more than a, 0.84

00:28:28.740 you know, dehumanized pod from from male pleasure. I haven't seen that in America. But I believe

00:28:40.360 that's happening in places like Iran or Saudi Arabia. And yet all of the popular culture,

00:28:46.520 all of Hollywood is saying, ha ha, the handmaid's tale, up yours, Trump. They're not, they're not,

00:28:53.260 they're styling it as a American Christian Western problem. And I think it's a kind of placebo or a,

00:29:01.620 or a way of misdirecting away from the real. We have a handmaid's tale crisis in the world. We've had

00:29:07.800 one for 40 years. And in Iran, that's what I don't get, is how they can talk about the threat to 0.91

00:29:14.280 women's rights in America and ignore Saudi Arabia and Iran.

00:29:18.880 That is the million dollar question. And not only are they ignoring those women,

00:29:24.540 but they are actually empowering or supporting the oppressors of those women. Because when they

00:29:31.880 throw hijabs on every flat surface and every advertisement being sold in Banana Republic, 0.99

00:29:37.660 being sold at Marks and Spencer, when they do that, what they're doing is they are celebrating

00:29:43.060 this fundamentalism. They're celebrating this tool of misogyny, this tool that perpetuates rape

00:29:50.880 culture, this tool that gets women killed and imprisoned all over the world. And they're taking 1.00

00:29:56.600 this atrocious, disgusting thing and they're putting a Nike swoosh on it. So, I mean, it's bad enough to

00:30:04.560 ignore those women in Iran and to pay more attention to fictional women and to get all up in arms over

00:30:11.160 fictional women on a fictional TV show and to ignore the actual real life human beings. I mean,

00:30:17.720 that's disgusting enough. But then just the added layer, just the added salt on the wound of not

00:30:23.600 only are we going to ignore you, but we're going to support the thing that gets you imprisoned and

00:30:29.160 killed.

00:30:29.480 It's very strange. I have three theories. And let me just put them to you. Why would a Western liberated

00:30:38.800 woman, I don't know PJ Harvey, but I know plenty others who would say the same thing. Why would a

00:30:44.680 Western liberated woman support something so obviously denying and dehumanizing of women? And I have three

00:30:57.420 theories. One is that some Western liberated women are post-religious themselves, don't really have 0.95

00:31:04.900 a belief. And so they see Islam and they say, oh, they don't have the same spiritual void I do. I should 0.95

00:31:13.240 respect that because, you know, I can play act like I'm part of their community. I don't know, theory

00:31:21.800 number one. Theory number two is what I call otherism. I want to show how open-minded I am as a liberal. I will

00:31:29.480 take the opposite side of my own just to show how open-minded I am. I'm going to, I'm a liberated woman.

00:31:37.020 I'm going to support the exact opposite of my own interests just to show how open-minded I am. And the

00:31:43.680 third theory I have is they're afraid. They're afraid of being called Islamophobic. They're afraid

00:31:51.160 of being, who knows, maybe even being attacked. And it's sort of like, if I support the tyranny, will you

00:31:57.640 eat me last? Will you come for me last? I don't know what you think of those three theories, but

00:32:01.640 I'm trying to understand why a Western liberated woman would support a tyrant, not just any tyrant, 0.81

00:32:07.640 but a tyrant with a specific hatred for independent women.

00:32:11.440 Mm-hmm. I mean, I would love to be able to sit down with one of these women and actually get a 1.00

00:32:17.460 straight answer out of her because like you, it's very perplexing to me. And I also have thought of

00:32:25.860 those fear theories and others. And for each one, I mean, if you would just sit down with this woman

00:32:32.200 who thinks that, oh, these Muslims have a, you know, they don't have this spiritual void that I 0.99

00:32:37.840 have. Therefore, there must be something enlightened about them. Why doesn't she feel the same way when

00:32:42.720 she looks at Christians? She doesn't feel the same way when she looks at Jehovah's witnesses or Mormons

00:32:49.120 or Amish women that are covered up or in those insular fundamentalist Christian societies. She

00:32:55.500 doesn't get that same feeling. So what is it about Muslims that somehow they've, they have some 1.00

00:33:01.020 spiritual enlightenment that the rest of us haven't reached? Um, and then the second thing you said

00:33:05.920 about othering, I think you're absolutely correct about that too. There is like this Orientalism of, 0.92

00:33:11.920 you know, we see that a lot with Justin Trudeau with looking at others as if they're like this,

00:33:18.380 this quaint little, you know, um, noble savage, you know, he gets to dress up in their clothes and

00:33:27.200 dance like them and, oh, isn't this fun. Um, and that kind of othering is, you know, that's the

00:33:33.460 epitome of racism right there when you're not treating other human beings as human beings, but as

00:33:39.220 caricatures, as, as little characters for you to, uh, you know, pet on the head and, and be condescending

00:33:46.840 towards. And, you know, I just find this whole thing to be so insidious because those same women 1.00

00:33:56.020 that would support these things in other women would never support those things for themselves. 1.00

00:34:04.520 Right. Right.

00:34:05.180 It's like, she would never want to wear hijab. She would never be wanting to live in a country 1.00

00:34:09.880 that treats her as a second-class citizen that, you know, controls her, every aspect of her life, 1.00

00:34:16.780 including what she puts on her body in the morning, you know, but for those women over there, 1.00

00:34:23.260 oh, it's lovely and it's wonderful and let's support it.

00:34:25.800 Huh. Well, we're talking about liberal women and in many ways, I think liberal women, 1.00

00:34:31.080 liberated women run the world in many ways. I mean, in terms of pop culture and in terms of 1.00

00:34:37.160 part of the world, consumerism and ads. I mean, even in a household, typically it's the mum who 0.99

00:34:43.540 would buy the clothing and buy. So these ads, like you mentioned, the Nike, the Reebok or whatever

00:34:48.920 those ads are, they're targeting Western liberated women who spend, you know, who do the shopping. 1.00

00:34:54.780 In terms of pop culture, consumer culture, retail culture, I do think women run the world. There's 1.00

00:35:02.860 other aspects that men run the world in. One of the exciting things for me, Yasmin, has been seeing

00:35:09.900 how you have access to the mainstream culture, including liberal pop culture. I mean, we here at

00:35:17.700 the rebel, we're conservative and we have a very strong flavor to the right. But so it gives, so

00:35:23.440 we're, I believe that we're your ally because we share these concerns, but from a hardline political

00:35:28.760 point of view. But what a delight for me. I sometimes see you interacting with pop culture, liberal, popular

00:35:35.900 journalists who are not ideological. And if you press them, they'd probably say they're liberal,

00:35:41.440 they're left of center. And I'm thrilled with that. I feel like you can break into this other world

00:35:48.300 that we can't. Can you tell me, how has your book been received by the cool kids, by the daytime TV

00:35:58.740 shows targeting the moms of Canada and America, by pop culture folks, not political activists like us.

00:36:07.460 Have you been well received by the mainstream women of America?

00:36:12.640 Well, unfortunately, the answer to that question is no. And, you know, a friend of mine, Megan Phelps

00:36:19.420 Roper, who left the Westboro Baptist Church, essentially her family, it's a church of about 80 to 90 people.

00:36:26.920 And she wrote a book and it was released around the same time as mine was just, you know, a couple

00:36:33.220 weeks after. And she's been on Good Morning America. She's been on Sarah Silverman. She's been,

00:36:39.740 you know, everywhere that you could possibly imagine. And, you know, the rights to her book

00:36:45.500 were purchased. The movie rights to her book were purchased before the book was even written.

00:36:50.180 I mean, you know, Hollywood's all over this. And that kind of difference between how she is being 0.99

00:36:59.800 received and how I am being received is really, you know, it's just like that clear indication for us

00:37:07.960 right now to see why is it that popular culture, mainstream culture is so comfortable talking about

00:37:16.680 Megan's story and they are so uncomfortable talking about mine. When both of us have very similarly

00:37:25.740 born and grown up and raised in fundamentalist environments and both of us were able to leave

00:37:31.880 those environments and are now talking out against the hate that was in those communities that we

00:37:38.700 left. So we have that in common. The only difference is the fundamentalist community that she left

00:37:45.420 was Christian and the one that I left was Muslim. And so there is, they're willing to embrace her and

00:37:53.940 they're willing to support her. But for me, anything that I say is Islamophobic and bigoted. But yes, 0.90

00:38:01.920 having said all that, there are some people within the left and within the mainstream media that are

00:38:08.940 willing to hear my story, but they're always very careful about it. It's not with open arms the way it

00:38:14.000 is for Megan. Right. Well, your book is described and I haven't read it yet. I intend to read it. I'm

00:38:21.740 very, very curious about it. And I'm, I guess I'm lucky I'm getting a preview briefing from you and then

00:38:27.820 I'm going to go and read it. I know that when we last spoke, you were starting to interact with

00:38:34.520 Ayaan Hirsi Ali, if I'm not mistaken. How's that going? Because there's someone who also has a story

00:38:41.140 of fleeing tremendous jeopardy. And last time I saw her, it was years ago. She had so much security.

00:38:47.540 I, I've, I've almost never seen anyone other than a head of state have as much personal physical

00:38:53.960 security as her. And I can only imagine the threats under which she lives today.

00:38:58.720 Um, has she been of help? Are you doing projects with her? She gets doors open.

00:39:06.220 Yeah, she's amazing. Um, and yes, she's been very helpful. She's been very supportive,

00:39:11.020 but for example, she got me in touch with her literary agent when I was trying to get this book

00:39:17.500 published and that went nowhere. Sam Harris, same thing, got me in touch with his literary,

00:39:23.300 literary agent that went nowhere. Um, what's happening is there is this because of, because

00:39:33.080 of Trump and everybody feeling like there's this rise of the, of the right wing and there's this rise

00:39:38.680 of Nazis. There is this fear of speaking out against any Brown culture or any non-white considered

00:39:50.400 non-white religion. Um, and so things have changed now. There's a, there's a very different, 1.00

00:39:57.460 very full of fear, I think out there in the, uh, literary world and in the mainstream media world,

00:40:04.420 nobody wants to talk about these problems. But of course, what ends up happening when you don't talk

00:40:09.180 about these problems is they just get worse. They'd only don't only get worse for the people that are

00:40:14.240 living under Sharia, but they get worse for you and me over here in the West as well. And we can see

00:40:19.220 that with the trucks of peace and everything. Um, we can see that with the rise of antisemitism all

00:40:24.500 over Europe. We can see that when you don't address these issues, they only fester. And so it's very

00:40:32.760 important that we have a nuanced take when we talk about these things. And that when we talk about all

00:40:39.640 of the issues with Islam and all of the oppression that it causes, that we're not demonizing all Muslims.

00:40:47.380 And we're saying, you know, nobody has ever said that, but that seems to be the counter argument

00:40:52.540 constantly, not all Muslims. It's like nobody has ever said that 1.7 billion people specifically

00:40:58.900 believe this. What we're saying is that this religion itself teaches this. And when it's being

00:41:07.280 taught to 1.7 billion people, a certain percentage of them will follow what their doctrine tells them

00:41:14.720 to do. And even if it's one or 2%, that's millions of people, that's way more people than we want

00:41:20.220 to be following that doctrine. So it's very important that we do talk about these things,

00:41:24.880 not just because of the victims all over the world, but for us as well in the free world and the Western

00:41:31.180 world, these kinds of things, there's, like I said earlier on in this interview, these ideas cross borders.

00:41:37.780 Yeah. Well, you know, you made me think of something that Majid Nawaz in the UK said. He is a Muslim

00:41:46.200 progressive. He's got a radio show on LBC. And he was talking about Tommy Robinson, who's, you know,

00:41:52.580 he's a buddy of mine. He's not everyone's cup of tea. He's a little bit rough around the edges.

00:41:56.980 And Majid Nawaz, here, let me play the quick clip. I'll let him speak for himself. Take a look.

00:42:02.140 From fear of appearing racist, there was a silence across the country as multiple cases

00:42:10.340 of grooming gangs emerged up and down the country, as evidenced now due to multiple

00:42:15.740 prosecutions, successful prosecutions, but sadly and unfortunately too late. If we hadn't all been

00:42:23.020 silent, if we had all addressed this issue head on when it needed to be addressed, when it was time

00:42:29.540 to address it, then the void would not have emerged for the populist agitators to fill that gap

00:42:37.060 and become popular, actually, as a result of addressing what is a legitimate issue. They

00:42:43.200 ended up hijacking what should have been the concern of every right-minded citizen in this country.

00:42:49.360 So his point, Yasmin, was that if mainstream establishment people, liberals, moderates, whatever,

00:42:57.680 refuse to talk about the prickly things. And in the UK, the prickliest are the rape gangs.

00:43:06.400 I mean, that's extremely tough to even say that word. If you don't say the word, you're never going

00:43:09.760 to deal with the issue. Because everyone was afraid of being called an Islamophobe,

00:43:15.480 only Tommy Robinson was talking about that. And like I say, it's not everyone's cup of tea,

00:43:18.820 but as Majid Nawaz said, well, where was the rest of you? And I think that there, I think that was a very

00:43:24.120 wise observation. Absolutely. There's so much truth to that. And the saddest part of that is while these

00:43:31.020 people, you know, whether they're the authorities or journalists or politicians, while they were

00:43:36.900 wringing their hands, too scared to say anything, because they didn't want anyone to call them a

00:43:42.840 bigot or an Islamophobe or a racist, what they were doing is they were essentially allowing girls, 0.73

00:43:51.140 girls as young as 11 to continue to be raped. So that's the thing that people don't recognize that

00:43:59.900 when you're too scared, when I was talking about before about you're too scared to talk about these

00:44:04.680 things, and it only makes it fester, and it only makes it worse. These rape gangs in the UK are a

00:44:09.880 perfect, you know, incredibly unfortunate example of exactly that. Yeah. Well, I tell you, I very much

00:44:17.500 look forward to reading your book, and I think the subtitle is what's so interesting to me,

00:44:21.940 How Western Liberals Empower Radical Islam. I hope that Western liberals will read the book. I'm sure 0.97

00:44:28.480 our rebel viewers who are typically Western conservatives will. We will make this video

00:44:33.800 available on YouTube, and we'll send it out to our people, and I'd encourage them to click the Amazon

00:44:39.240 link below. Your book is available on Amazon. It's called Unveiled, How Western Liberals Empower Radical

00:44:45.360 Islam, and I hope you have much success with it, Yasmeen. Good luck promoting it. You're always

00:44:51.100 welcome here, and I hope you keep us posted on your journey because we're relying on you. You can

00:44:58.240 say things having lived through it and come from it that we on the outside cannot, so we wish you much

00:45:04.040 strength. Thank you so much, Ezra. I'm going to send you a signed copy as soon as I hang up right now.

00:45:09.220 Okay, that's great. Well, good luck, my friend, and I hope this becomes a bestseller.

00:45:13.200 Me too. All right. Thank you. Right on. There's our friend Yasmeen Mohamed. The book is called

00:45:18.800 Unveiled, and you can get it at the Amazon link in the description under this video. Stay with us. More ahead.

00:45:34.560 Hey, welcome back on my monologue yesterday about Remembrance Day and Sportsnet firing Don Cherry.

00:45:39.480 Andrew writes, It's ironic that Don Cherry got fired on Remembrance Day standing up for people

00:45:44.500 who fought and died for the freedom to speak. The only thing these corporate goofs understand is

00:45:48.720 money and hurt feelings. I will hurt their feelings by withholding money by canceling Rogers cable

00:45:53.120 and not tuning into Hockey Night in Canada. Well, that's hard to do if you're a hockey fan. You want

00:45:58.480 to watch the hockey games, and I bet it's hard to get rid of Rogers in your life too because they're,

00:46:04.440 like I said earlier in the show, they're part of the Kiritzu. They've got cable. They've got cable. 1.00

00:46:11.060 They've got TV content. They've got cell phones. They're like a moss covering so much of the Canadian 0.90

00:46:20.180 landscape, protected and subsidized by the CRTC. So that's why they bent the knee. That's why you'll

00:46:28.400 never see anything truly interesting or truly conservative in Canadian media because at the end

00:46:33.220 of the day, they may not be owned by the government like the CBC is, but they are just as controlled

00:46:38.900 by the government as the CBC is. John writes, Many Canadians are every bit as guilty as new 0.99

00:46:46.060 immigrants for not acknowledging our military history. On the West Coast, two immigrant communities 0.99

00:46:49.900 embrace the wearing of poppies at levels greater than the average, Sikhs and Chinese. Having said that, 0.93

00:46:55.060 firing Don Cherry was over the top. You know what? I take your point about the Sikhs and the Chinese. 0.97

00:47:00.820 I know that Sikhs have been an important part of the British Empire's military for hundreds of years.

00:47:09.920 In fact, Sikhs were disproportionately part of the British Army in India and served in various wars

00:47:17.220 around the world for the British Empire. I'm not as familiar with the Chinese-Canadian community,

00:47:22.220 although I have with my own eyes seen Chinese cadets selling poppies. So you're exactly right 1.00

00:47:28.320 on that. But empirically speaking, I think very few Canadians at all wear poppies. And I think it's

00:47:36.060 just a plain old fact that we don't inculcate Canadian values to newcomers at all. Don Cherry was

00:47:43.860 trying to do that. Lou writes, this sad event reminds me of sportscaster Damien Goddard,

00:47:49.800 who was fired by Sportsnet for tweeting that marriage was between a man and a woman.

00:47:53.820 The censorship of conservative voices must stop. If it doesn't, it will not end well for Canada.

00:47:58.180 I did sign the petition. Thanks, Lou. You know, some people think that it might be possible for Don

00:48:04.920 Cherry to get his job back at Sportsnet. I mean, we have, last I checked, over 65,000 signatures on the

00:48:11.400 petition. I don't think it matters. I don't, if we had a million signatures on the petition, I think,

00:48:17.580 I mean, listen, I want the names on the petition. We're going to deliver them to Don Cherry. We're

00:48:21.380 going to send it to Judas McClain. And we'll also send it to Sportsnet to let them know.

00:48:25.740 But even if there was one million signatures, is Sportsnet more scared of a million Canadians

00:48:32.140 or of Justin Trudeau? Well, the answer is Justin Trudeau, because he controls the CRTC and that

00:48:41.540 controls them. That's our show for today. Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel

00:48:47.260 World Headquarters, good night and keep fighting for freedom.

00:49:02.140 Thank you.

Rebel News Podcast - November 13, 2019

What the Media Party won’t tell you about Don Cherry

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