Why are the U.S. and Canadian military spying on Rebel News？
Summary
Why are the U.S. and Canadian military spying on Rebel News? I'll show you the proof, and explain why it's my bloody right to do so. Rebel News Plus is 8 bucks a month to become a video subscriber, and you get the video version of this podcast to keep us strong.
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Hello, my friends. A stunning show today, if I may say so. I have documents showing that
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the U.S. Navy hired a military contractor to spy on Rebel News. And then I learned that
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Harjeet Sajjan's Special Forces Command hired the same military contractors in the States
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to do more spying on us. I'll take you through the documents. I'll read them to you. But
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this is one of those cases we're having. Rebel News Plus really makes a difference because
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that way you can follow the documents. I want to show you these documents. They're crazy.
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How do you feel about that? The militaries of Canada and the United States both spying
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on Rebel News. I'll show it to you. That's ahead. But before I get there, hey, do me a favor. If
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you want to keep us strong, go to rebelnews.com, click subscribe. It's eight bucks a month to
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become a video subscriber. We call that Rebel News Plus. You get the video version of this
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podcast. And really, frankly, do it to keep us strong. Do it to help us. The U.S. Navy
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has a $161 billion budget this year. They're spying on us. Harjeet Sajjan's spying on us.
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It's just us. So if you want to chip in a few bucks to help us out, I'd be so grateful.
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Well, you can do that at rebelnews.com. Okay, here's today's report.
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Tonight, why are the U.S. and Canadian military spying on Rebel News? It's March 15th, and this
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is the Ezra Levant Show. Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer
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I know? There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer. The only thing
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I have to say to the government about why I'm publishing it is because it's my bloody right
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Why are the U.S. and Canadian military spying on Rebel News? I'll show you the proof in a
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moment. But first, let me state the obvious. If you think the military is a right-wing
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Hi, I'm Harjeet Sajjan, the Minister of National Defense, and my pronouns are he and him. And
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that means creating spaces that are inclusive and respectful, making sure we are deliberate
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with the language we use, and using people's pronouns. This Transgender Awareness Week, we
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celebrate the Transgender Defense Team members who enrich our team.
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While Harjeet Sajjan was busy working on his pronouns, he was literally overseeing the winter
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warfare training of China's People's Liberation Army soldiers at a Canadian Forces base. It's
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shocking, but you can't say that Trudeau never warned us.
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There's a level of admiration I actually have for China, because their basic dictatorship is
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allowing them to actually turn their economy around on a dime.
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What does it mean when the military gets so political, when it puts other goals ahead
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of winning in a battlefield? I mean, maybe we need to have a big transgender campaign in
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Canada. I'm a skeptic. I have a lot of questions. But can we all agree that the only purpose of a
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military is, to be blunt about it, to kill people and break things? There's no affirmative action
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on the battlefield, no quotas, no words like, you know, triggered and safe spaces. They have real
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meanings there, not their woke meanings. Well, when, as military becomes woke, it gets into politics,
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and it starts acting like an enforcer for the politics of its politician leaders. It stops focusing
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on foreign military threats and turns against domestic political threats. We saw that with
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a series of outbursts from the military in the United States against a conservative TV host named
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Drama TV. Ladies and gentlemen, that's what I call it. I'll apologize up front and tell you that I don't
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have cable news at home, I don't have it here in the office, and I don't watch a lot of drama TV.
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I understand some comments were made yesterday, and I watched the clip that Mr. Carlson produced
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as he referred to pregnant women in the military. I'll remind everyone that his opinion, which he
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has a right to, is based off of actually zero days of service in the armed forces.
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And then a bunch of other senior military leaders joined in, including generals. What on earth is going
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on? Could you imagine if the military under Donald Trump started publicly denouncing, I don't know,
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CNN reporters or New York Times reporters, smearing them while wearing the uniform of
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the U.S. military, using U.S. military resources and official U.S. military accounts? It's insane.
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It's what the left baselessly accused Trump of wanting to do. Militaries and police forces
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have to be absolutely nonpartisan and nonpolitical. These are the Pentagon versions of James Comey,
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political activists pretending to be officers. They had the sense to keep quiet when Trump was
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president, but now they obviously feel that they can fly their real colors. Or maybe they were
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instructed to, to take down the leading conservative commentator in America, Tucker Carlson. He has the
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biggest ratings, and he's the strongest critic of the Democrats. So what about us here in Canada?
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I'm no Tucker Carlson. I don't have his dashing good looks, for one thing. But I did comb my hair
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once and put on a tie to talk to him about Trudeau training those Chinese soldiers. But all kidding
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aside, there is a similarity. We are conservative critics of a left-wing politician named Trudeau,
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and of left-wing generals and left-wing military like Harjit Sajan. We're not part of the left-wing
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media party. We don't take any government grants, so we can't be controlled that way.
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Fox News is the largest cable news show in America. We're the largest independent news channel in
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Canada. And just like the Democrats hate Tucker Carlson and Fox News, Trudeau and the Liberals hate
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me and Rebel News. It is disappointing to see the conservatives and the member opposites
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engage in peddling rebel media conspiracy theories,
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It is disappointing to see the conservatives engage in peddling rebel media conspiracy theories.
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Yeah, the media party freaked out when Trump said mean things to CNN. But you'll notice he kept
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calling on CNN every single day. He didn't ban them or have military generals condemn them.
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That's banana republic type stuff. Generals in camouflage denouncing civilian journalists.
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I haven't heard a peep from the ACLU or Reporters Without Borders though, have you?
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Well, that's what's going on in the US, but it's also going on in Canada. I know because we're the target
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of it. Let me be very precise in my language. The United States Department of Defense and the Canadian
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Armed Forces have both funded a joint cyber intelligence operation against Rebel News. It was
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It was apparently led by this woman, Rebecca Goolsby, who has worked for the US Navy for 20 years.
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Let me give you an idea of who Dr. Goolsby is. Her job is to fight against enemy narratives. And
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Yeah, we're interested, not interested in individuals at all. As a matter of fact,
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when you actually operationalize this stuff, usually it's highly anonymized because there
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are a lot of constraints from the military on what they can see. But we're not really interested
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in the individual so much as we are interested in understanding the information flow. Is there
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disinformation out there? You know, is there a socialist area out there? A lot of people think
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about this as trying to shut people up. But really, usually the problem is we need to put out more
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information. We need to outcompete the disinformation. But you need to know what the level of competition
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is in order to ramp up messaging and to improve the quality of messaging in order to outcompete.
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This was an interview she gave just a few months ago. She says her job with the Pentagon is to fend
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off invaders who sow hysteria. And by that, she doesn't mean China or Iran or Venezuela. I guess she
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means peaceful news outlets like Rebel News that just happened to be based in Canada, the closest ally of
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the U.S. We're interested in the universities providing the knowledge out there to the world
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so that they can, so that the communities themselves can fend off inauthentic users,
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you know, that are trying to invade their communities and sow hysteria and rumors,
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and try to fend those people off, how to fend them off better, and how to organize a community so
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that they're resilient against disinformation. China is clearly the rising threat to the United
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States Navy. They're building their fourth aircraft carrier right now. They're going further and
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further out to sea, harassing other countries' vessels, threatening Taiwan. But the U.S. Navy
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thinks a news website with conservative points of view, that's the real enemy. But honest,
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they're not evil people. You know, people get very worried about working with the Department of
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Defense. They think we're all, you know, kind of like evil people. But, you know, that's kind of
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a story that has been told. I've been very happy working in the Department of Defense. I have, you
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know, there have been times when people suggested things that made me go, you know, but we're able
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to calm them down and talk about reality. There's always hawks who don't understand what's going on.
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But for the more part, I have found that my relationships with and the ethical level
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of the Department of Defense is very, very high. And I've been very, very pleased and proud to be
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working with them. So that's the woman who has led the spying operation against us. I've left her
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a voicemail and I've sent her an email to ask her about it, but she hasn't got back to me yet. If she
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does, I'll let you know. Then again, the friendly friends at the U.S. Navy might choose to, I don't know,
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shut down our whole website instead of returning my calls. We'll find out soon enough. So here's
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how the spy operation worked. The U.S. Navy contracted a little department in the University
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of Arkansas in Little Rock to use, amongst other applications, a program called Spy on Web
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to do a workup on Rebel News. And they produced this report called the Canada Election Cyber Forensic
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Analysis. You can see it was dated October 10th, 2019, which is quite something given that the
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election wasn't actually over until 11 days later. But as you'll soon see, they knew what they were
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going to say before they even did their research. I'll read a little bit of it. Executive Summary.
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This report summarizes the significant findings on the hidden digital footprints of the Canadian
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website, The Rebel Up Media. The website provides far-right political and social commentary and was
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founded in February 2015 by Ezra Levan and Brian Lilly. Does the U.S. Navy, does the Pentagon do this a lot,
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pay contractors to use software called Spy on Web to spy on Canadian journalists? Why? Who ordered this?
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On what criteria? Who else do they spy on? How else do they spy? Are they tapping my phones?
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Are they hacking my emails? Those are my main questions. Privacy, legality. What the hell is the U.S.
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military doing spying on civilian journalists? But another question I just can't help asking it is,
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are all U.S. spies this stupid? I mean, we all know the joke, military intelligence is an oxymoron
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like jumbo shrimp. But seriously, this is the stupidest report I've ever seen. I kid you not,
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a teenager could have done a better job of it, and probably for a million dollars less. There's a lot
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of military jargon here, which, like academic jargon, is designed to make it harder to understand
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something rather than easier. It's designed to be cryptic, not plain. But let me take you through
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some of it. Identifying hidden or external links. A well-known political Canadian news and commentary
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site that frequently contributes stories about the Canadian elections was analyzed. Using a variety of
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cyber forensic analytical capabilities provided by Maltigo and Spy on Web, the following open source
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information was obtained. Okay, got it. Perfectly normal. Just the U.S. Navy using a website called
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Spy on Web to spy on our little website. I'll keep reading. They are attempting to create an influence
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operation such that they are increasing their digital footprint by creating fake websites to drive traffic
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to their own website using their own website using their own agendas. What? Well, I suppose we do want
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to influence the world. That's why we're interested in current events and why we express our editorial
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opinions. And, you know, during election, that's the time to do it for sure. I think it's what all journalists
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do. But what's that fake website part? Our website is pretty real. What do they mean by fake? Does it not
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work? Is it not what it seems? I'll read some more. The analysis revealed the operations are
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located in the United States, but the registered contact and location information is not shown
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in the WHOIS database. Hey guys, the U.S. Navy has an annual budget of $161 billion U.S. You think you
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could buy a clue? Our operations are in the U.S.? I actually don't think we have a single employee
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down there now that I think about it. And we haven't in years. We're incorporated in Canada.
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Our offices are in Canada. It's where our people are. It's where our reports come from. Sometimes we
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do travel to other countries and we do have one reporter in Australia. It's true. But, you know,
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seriously, how do you say that our operations are located in the U.S. and that we hide who we are? Our
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address is at the bottom of every single one of our web pages. I'll keep reading. External links were
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extracted that show the rebel.media blog as the primary link containing most of their content.
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Okay, that part they got right, except not really. We changed our website from the rebel.media to
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rebelnews.com in September of 2019, a month before this report was written. I'll keep reading.
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The IP addresses are constantly changing. It is not clear if this is a function of their web hosting
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service or this an additional measure to counter any identification efforts. Are you crazy?
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We use Akamai and Amazon's CloudFront for our website, if you really want to know. They both have
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thousands of nodes throughout the world. They're used to serve in direct traffic, so just plain English.
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Someone from Toronto will likely reach a different IP address than someone from Vancouver might, but
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no one notices or cares. That's just tech gobbledygook. It's just about how to get our website the fastest.
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We don't control that Amazon does. Imagine paying for this report, this BS. I like this next part.
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They're on a first-name basis with me, apparently, despite never having reached out to me for their
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research. Of course not. I'd say they're scammers. I think it's quite likely that the angle here is
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they're just milking the Pentagon for money by whipping up fake spies or something. Or maybe it's not about
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the money. Maybe it's just about demonizing conservatives. I don't know which it is. I've
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written to the University of Arkansas as well. I haven't heard back, but I'll let you know if they
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do write back. But boy, are they full of it. Let me quote. Ezra, that's Mr. Levant to you. Ezra and his
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team has basically used the built-with API to create fake websites for certain narratives that
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they want to control. When a user searches for one of these websites or hashtags, they are redirected
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to the rebel.media site with a quote, story or blog entry about the original narrative the user
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searched for. But with information now coming from the rebel.media, they are using these fake sites to
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drive traffic to their website. They are orchestrating Twitter hashtags from some of these same subjects
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and using the Twitter platform to drive traffic to the fake websites and then turn back to the
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original rebel.media site. My head's spinning. I like how they put the word stories in the scare quotes
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as if they're not stories. What's fake about these websites? Are they not websites? I'm guessing this
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cyber intelligence analysis was written just to bamboozle 75-year-old generals and admirals
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who have no idea what a Twitter is. They give an example of one of these fake websites. I just
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think, what are they talking about? It was a fun video that I did mocking Justin Trudeau's costume
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party in India. Remember when he went there for eight days and seven of them were just playing dress up?
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And I don't know if you remember, he brought along a convicted terrorist with him on the trip who tried
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to assassinate an Indian cabinet minister. I'm not sure what was fake about this whole thing other
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than Trudeau's costumes. Here, just to refresh your memory if you don't know, here's a little bit of
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the video that they're talking about. But not all Canadians put on bindis and wear Indian clothing
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when we go to an Indian restaurant and say namaste, namaste, namaste all the time. When most Canadians meet
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Indian people, we can stay calm. We don't have to pretend we're at a costume party or that Indians
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are a curiosity in a museum. I mean, it's pretty embarrassing when Trudeau met a Bollywood star,
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but he was the only one wearing an over-the-top costume. So it's a real video and it really was on
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our website and we really had a petition for people to sign to say sorry to India for sending such an
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idiot over there. And to promise people in India that we're not all like that, please don't think
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we're all as dumb as Trudeau. And you can see, by the way, in their naval intelligence memo that it's
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all very real. Our name Rebel News was all over it. I don't know what the fake part is. So it was a
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little video on a little website with a petition and an easy to remember domain, We're Sorry India.
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I love it. It was really fun to do. Got a quarter million views. But look at how it was described.
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Deep fakes of websites in Canadian elections. This is an email from the University of Arkansas
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at Little Rock. That's the contractor, the spy contractor to the Navy spymaster, Goolsby,
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written on October 29, 2019. So about a week after the election. It's actually a chain of emails. So
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let's start at the bottom and work up just to do it in order. Hi, Rebecca. That's the spymaster.
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That's M. If this were James Bond, she'd be M. Please see the report on cyber forensic analysis
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of the Rebel.media website. Both Word and PDF versions are attached. The analysis revealed a
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new cyber information operation tactic of deep fakes for websites at play. A collection of fake websites,
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at least 291, were deployed to amplify the narrative that Trudeau is not a friend of the Canadian Indian
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community in order to rally support for opposition candidate Jagmeet Singh. There are more insights in
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the report. First page. An in-depth description of the analysis is provided on the subsequent pages.
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Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks. Nitin. That's the contractor. I got a few
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questions. You know what a deep fake is, right? You ever heard that word? It's a pretty new thing.
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I first saw a lot of deep fakes involving Tom Cruise. It's when you digitally take his face and put it on
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someone else. Let's just take a look. As much as the momentum. Hey, listen up, sports and TikTok fans.
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If you like what you're seeing, just wait till what's coming next.
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That's a deep fake. Pretty convincing. It's designed to deceive you. It's like a forgery,
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a video forgery, really. It pretends to be someone, typically someone famous, but it is a forgery.
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How is me standing in my studio with my logo on the page on my website railing against Trudeau?
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How is that a deep fake? That was really me doing it. And help me out here. Have you ever in your life
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heard me trying to help Mr. Jagmeet Singh win the election or anything? By the way, I rewatched that
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video today. I didn't mention Jagmeet Singh in the video at all or on that website or the petition.
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It was not about him. It was really just saying sorry to India for having such an idiot as a PM.
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I wanted people in India to know that we don't all like make fun of Indian clothing or something.
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And, you know, we only did one website called we're sorry, India, not what do they say? 291.
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That 291 number, I think he's talking about the total number of, you know, little campaigns we've
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ever had on any subject at all over six years. Like, for example, I don't know if you remember,
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like five years ago, we had a campaign to boycott the hamburger restaurant A&W for switching from
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Canadian beef to U.S. beef. Seriously. I know I'm getting too into the details here,
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but presumably that's what these spies were paid gazillions of dollars to do. They think
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we had 291 deep fake websites in the last federal election designed to promote Jagmeet Singh. In fact,
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we had one and it didn't even mention Jagmeet Singh. I liked the video. Here's a little more from it.
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Most of all, please do not think that Canadians support terrorism. Like you,
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we were shocked to learn that Justin Trudeau invited a convicted terrorist, a man who was found
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guilty of attempted murder against an Indian cabinet minister. We were shocked to read that
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that man was invited to attend a dinner with Justin Trudeau and his entourage on this India trip.
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There's the terrorist Jaspal Atwal with Sophie Trudeau in Mumbai. The Trudeaus have known Atwal for a long
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time. There's another picture with Trudeau meeting with Atwal back in Canada. For Trudeau to work with
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a convicted terrorist is inexcusable. But the Navy spy boss was thrilled with the news. Here's what she wrote
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back. Rebecca Goolsby wrote, great work, many thanks in all caps. And on October 29th, Nitin Agrawal,
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that's the defense contractor, wrote back and said, this is more like a coordinated deep fake.
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I don't think we have seen it heard about this yet. And she wrote back right away, agreed. Now,
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it's super gross that the Pentagon is spying on us. It's super gross that they're using software
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called SpyOnWeb. I mean, that's a little on the nose, isn't it? It's gross that instead of fighting
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China, they're sneaking and creeping a conservative YouTube channel based in Canada. I think it might
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be illegal. I don't know. I don't know American laws that well. It's definitely political. It's
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definitely unethical. China's got to be laughing at the US Navy right now. But are they really that dumb,
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the Navy intelligence officers, or these Arkansas professors, or are they just scamming the system
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with their breathless talk about 291 deep fakes? It's very, very creepy to be spied on by the US
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Navy. I don't even have a boat. But I won't lie, it's also disappointing to know that the greatest force
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for freedom in the world, the US military, is so abjectly stupid, at least when it comes to cyber
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intelligence. I don't know if they got anything right. It probably isn't against the law for the
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US military to spy on me. I'm not an American citizen. I am one of the most pro-American,
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pro-NATO, pro-military journalists in all of Canada, by the way, which is probably why Navy
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intelligence hates me, come to think of it. But what about the Canadian Armed Forces? I am a Canadian
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citizen. I have the right under our Constitution to be free of warrantless searches and seizures.
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I have a lot of rights, privacy rights. The Canadian Armed Forces, like the US military,
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the Canadian Armed Forces have a mandate to fight Canada's enemies, not spy on Canada's
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So why did Harjit Sajjan then take this study and fund those same Arkansas spies, those same military
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contractors, and publish their spy work in Canada? Look at this.
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DHSC ISA releases election disinformation toolkit. And it's from that same defense contractor,
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Nitin Agarwal, to Rebecca Goolsbee. That's the spy master of the Navy. Hi, Rebecca. Thanks for
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sharing. On a related note, our Canadian election online influence campaign study was recently published
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in the Journal of Future Conflict by Queen's College Department of Psychology in cooperation with
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the Center for Security, Armed Forces and Society at the Department of Politics at the Royal Military
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College of Canada. The Special Operations Forces Command Education and Research Center, as well as with
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support from Defense Research and Development Canada. The full article is available at this website.
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Best Nitin. That's the defense contractor. So hang on.
00:26:34.880
The Special Operations Forces Command of Canada? They spent taxpayers' dollars meant for the military?
00:26:45.440
They spent that money, instead of spending it defending Canada or, I don't know, spying on China?
00:26:52.480
They spent their defense budget spying on Rebel News? Harjit Sajjan's Special Forces team
00:26:59.920
spent money, hired foreign military contractors to spy on Rebel News? Oh, not just them. You saw the memo.
00:27:10.640
Defense Research and Development Canada. They spent taxpayers' dollars meant for the military.
00:27:17.280
They spent that money to spy on Rebel News. Did Justin Trudeau order them to do that?
00:27:21.360
It is disappointing to see the conservatives and the member opposite engage in peddling rebel media conspiracy theories.
00:27:31.920
It is disappointing to see the conservatives engage in peddling rebel media conspiracy theories.
00:27:37.920
Here's the publication that they paid for, paying the University of Arkansas military contractors to
00:27:43.200
rewrite it and publish it in Canada. This was the link that was in the contractor's
00:27:47.920
email to her spy boss in the Navy. The role of YouTube during the 2019 Canadian federal election,
00:27:54.640
a multi-method analysis of online discourse and information actors. And it's all those Americans.
00:28:01.280
Katrin Kania-Galeano, Rick Galeano, Esther Mead, Billy Spann, Joseph Creedy, and Nitin Agarwal.
00:28:07.760
That's the head military contractor. Now, don't worry, I'm not going to take you through all of it,
00:28:11.840
but look at a few parts. For our research, we identified 75 unique channels on YouTube
00:28:19.440
that published 6,019 videos about the Canadian federal election between January 1st, 2019 through
00:28:25.120
October 31st, 2019. Okay, got it. But look at this. For the purpose of brevity of this report,
00:28:32.640
we are providing our observations of the right-wing Canadian media news and commentary website Rebel News.
00:28:42.160
Yeah, you're lying. You're lying. You didn't study 75 channels. You studied one channel. We saw,
00:28:50.720
we just went through, we saw your memo. You studied the one channel that you were specifically hired to
00:28:57.840
spy on by the U.S. Navy. You just threw in the names of 74 other websites to make it look like you
00:29:03.520
weren't spying on Canada's leading conservative YouTube channel. You're spies, but you're really,
00:29:10.640
really bad at this, guys. I always thought the smartest students in university went on to became
00:29:16.960
spies. No. The analysis revealed that the operations were located in the United States.
00:29:25.760
Yeah. No. I'm right here in Canada, you stupid buffoons. Most of the study repeats the errors,
00:29:35.280
the wrong guesses, and the smears of the earlier memo that I showed you. It's just fake. That's a bit
00:29:40.800
ironic. They claim to be on the hunt for misinformation and fake news, but they are the purveyors of fake
00:29:47.040
news. I'm not American. We're not an American operation. We've never made a deep fake video in our
00:29:53.520
lives. I don't support Jagmeet Singh, and the feeling is mutual. We're not your enemies,
00:29:59.760
America. We're actually the most pro-American channel in Canada. I'm just trying to figure out
00:30:05.680
why. Is it because that Navy spymaster just hates conservatives? Could be. Is it because she's just
00:30:14.000
empire building? She needs to do lots of busy work to justify her budget and get more budget and get more
00:30:20.400
staff and get more praise? I don't know. Is it because Justin Trudeau and Harjit Sajjan asked for
00:30:26.080
this to be done to us? Could be. Because you have to admit, it's very, very weird for the U.S. Navy
00:30:34.240
Intelligence Department to hire a military contractor at the University of Arkansas to specifically smear
00:30:42.640
a Canadian YouTube channel. I got to tell you, that's really weird unless they were asked to do
00:30:47.920
that by Justin Trudeau or Harjit Sajjan. I don't know. I'm laughing at how stupid they are. I'm laughing
00:30:54.880
at how wrong they are. I made 219 videos in support of Jagmeet Singh. Yeah, no, I didn't, guys.
00:31:01.040
I'm laughing. But it's not funny at all, actually. They are spying on me and my staff. Who knows what
00:31:08.160
they've done? They're making an enemies list, obviously. They're lying about us, obviously. I
00:31:14.080
suppose that's normal. If you're making an enemies list, you're probably not afraid to lie about
00:31:18.640
someone. I wonder if anyone will care about all this. I mean, if we were a left-wing YouTube channel,
00:31:24.080
I don't know, The Young Turks or something, and Donald Trump ordered the Navy to spy on The Young Turks
00:31:29.840
or some other left-wing YouTube site. Would anyone care? I think so. I should note this spying actually
00:31:38.720
did occur when Donald Trump was president, though it was unlikely he was briefed on it. I don't think
00:31:44.960
he would have approved it. I think this is the military deep state, which we saw this weekend
00:31:50.960
go after Tucker Carlson. I think they left wing. What do you think? We have access to information
00:31:56.400
requests into both Queens University, which reprinted this smear, and to the University of Arkansas
00:32:03.360
with the defense contractors, which really, really doesn't want to hand over their documents to us.
00:32:08.880
We've been fighting with them for a little while. I mean, I can sort of guess why they don't want to
00:32:13.520
hand it over, right? Do you think any of this is a problem? The Pentagon spying on rebel news?
00:32:21.280
Or how about Harjit Sajjan and his special forces office spying on us, hiring foreign military
00:32:32.160
contractors to have a go at us? Do you have a problem with that? Alberta Premier Jason Kenney set
00:32:38.400
up an inquiry into foreign-funded eco-extremist groups attacking the oil sands in Alberta. And that
00:32:44.160
has been a five-alarm fire for the left in Canada, and journalists and civil libertarians,
00:32:48.240
civil libertarians saying he's invading their privacy. Yeah, he's not spying on them, though.
00:32:56.240
How about when Harjit Sajjan and Justin Trudeau send money from their special forces command
00:33:03.760
to a foreign military contractor in Arkansas to work up a spy memo on Canadian journalists? Is that a
00:33:10.640
problem for anyone? It's a problem for me. But it's a sign of how far Canada has fallen in terms of
00:33:19.200
press freedom and, indeed, all freedoms. But I will say this one thing about the spy report
00:33:25.360
that raised my spirits. If they're going to lock us up, they better start building more prisons,
00:33:31.120
because, you see, we've got some friends out there. As you can see, we were the fifth most important
00:33:36.640
producer of videos. In the entire 2019 election, as you can see, the CBC is counted twice ahead of us,
00:33:43.760
and CTV and Global, so we're actually in fourth place. Then it was us, way, way ahead of anyone
00:33:50.320
else. That's just measuring YouTube videos that were served up. That's why Harjit Sajjan and Justin
00:33:56.800
Trudeau were spying on us. Because tens of millions of Canadians are watching us hundreds of millions of
00:34:03.520
times. In fact, although the CBC and the rest of the media party had numerically more videos
00:34:09.520
produced during the 2019 election, they actually pumped out more of them. Ours were the most
00:34:16.160
influential, according to these spies. Although, I have to say, I don't trust the word they say.
00:34:20.480
They're that incompetent. But if you take them at their word, we were bigger than Global News,
00:34:26.160
bigger than CTV, bigger than CBC. I see our friends True North on that map, too. Glad to see it.
00:34:33.040
According to these stupid spies, so who knows if it's true, we were the most influential YouTube
00:34:39.520
channel in the 2019 election. Maybe that's why Trudeau paid the United States contractors
00:34:47.200
to spy on us, my friends. Hey, before I go, if you want to help keep us strong,
00:34:52.640
maybe pop by helprebelnews.com, chip in a few bucks. You know, according to the spies,
00:35:00.560
we're doing more than anyone else on the internet to push back against Trudeau.
00:35:08.400
Welcome back. Well, I tell you, if Donald Trump and his generals had attacked journalists of the
00:35:26.320
left, it would have been, and should have been, a scandal. Alas, he didn't do so. In fact, for some
00:35:32.160
reason, Trump just couldn't stop calling on his so-called enemies, Jim Acosta and the CNN boys.
00:35:38.960
He couldn't resist bantering with them every day. I think he liked the sparring. Not so much Joe Biden,
00:35:46.240
who is yet to give an actual press conference 50 days into his presidency. I don't think he's up for it.
00:35:52.960
And even if he thought he was, I don't think his staff would allow such a disaster for someone who's
00:35:58.320
not the sharpest knife in the drawer. But what do we make about this attack on a conservative
00:36:04.800
civilian journalist by uniformed members of the United States Department of Defense using their
00:36:11.600
official resources and then having a round of attaboys by senior commanders, including generals?
00:36:18.000
Joining us now via Skype to talk about this is our friend Joel Pollack, senior editor-at-large
00:36:22.160
at Breitbart.com. Joel, it's really creepy to have men in uniform, camouflage uniforms,
00:36:30.000
giving political speeches. That feels a little banana republic-y to me.
00:36:36.000
Well, there are a number of things that are quite disturbing about this. Let me just set the
00:36:41.920
frame around this and give you the context. President Biden was making remarks at the promotion of two
00:36:50.560
female officers to very senior positions in the military. And he went on to talk about the things
00:36:56.880
that the U.S. military is doing to make women more comfortable in the armed forces and also to
00:37:02.000
eliminate barriers to women's advancement. And in the armed forces, as in other parts of the workforce,
00:37:07.760
the most significant obstacle or challenge, I should say, for women is pregnancy. Pregnancy takes women
00:37:14.400
out of the workforce at a key point in their careers, often when male counterparts are earning promotions
00:37:21.600
and so forth. So you can eliminate all the gender discrimination in the world, but pregnancy essentially
00:37:28.880
is a significant disadvantage, at least in regard to the career ladder. So under Trump, actually, the armed
00:37:36.560
forces took efforts to minimize the amount that pregnancy would take away from women's career paths in the
00:37:43.760
military. And the ways they did that involved many different things, but one of them included
00:37:51.280
making more uniforms friendly to pregnant women. And I can actually speak about this from first or second
00:37:57.760
hand experience, at least, because my wife is in the U.S. Navy Reserve and has been through the reserve in
00:38:04.240
now three pregnancies. So this is something that they've done. Now, she can't do all her normal duties when she's
00:38:09.760
pregnant. And we're not actually sending pregnant women to the front lines in any sense. They have
00:38:15.760
other duties when they are pregnant. But the military has become more flexible in allowing them to serve
00:38:21.280
within limits. If you get pregnant too often in the military, they may discharge you because you're
00:38:26.960
non-deployable for too long or too frequently. The military still wants to be able to have its forces
00:38:33.200
deployment ready. So it's not as if you can basically just be pregnant all the time and get
00:38:38.960
excused from duty all the time. But the military has become more accommodating, both under Republican
00:38:45.280
and Democratic administrations. Tucker Carlson took exception to Biden's comments, and he contrasted the
00:38:51.760
attitude of the U.S. Armed Forces with that of the Chinese military, which is building Navy ships rapidly
00:38:58.800
and is encouraging masculine behavior among Chinese men in order to make them, I suppose, better
00:39:04.080
soldiers. Tucker then said, we're doing the opposite in the U.S. Armed Forces. And he hit on the example
00:39:09.680
of the pregnant flight suit. Now, I think Tucker is wrong on the substance here because I don't think
00:39:16.000
that the pregnant flight suit has anything to do with military readiness. But I think his overall point
00:39:21.520
is largely correct, which is that under Democratic administrations like Obama, like Biden,
00:39:26.800
the military does spend a lot more time doing politically correct things rather than doing
00:39:32.560
things that make our military more effective. And a great example is the transgender policy.
00:39:38.000
There are militaries that allow transgender soldiers to serve the Israeli army, for example,
00:39:41.920
but that's a different situation where there's universal conscription. In the United States,
00:39:46.960
transgender soldiers often require transition surgery. So you're joining the military and you need
00:39:53.600
surgery to correct gender dysphoria that takes transgender soldiers out of deployable status,
00:40:00.640
out of active duty. It costs the taxpayer a lot of money to have these surgeries. And it's a special
00:40:05.920
exception. Actually, we don't allow people in the military who need corrective surgery for other things.
00:40:10.720
Yeah. If your teeth are bad, you know, the Navy will pay to fix them. But if you have flat feet,
00:40:14.960
if you have a bad back, if you have asthma or whatever, the military is not going to take you and no hard
00:40:18.960
feelings, but they need soldiers who are ready to be physically deployed again with the exception of
00:40:23.600
pregnancy where the military is trying to become more flexible. But there are examples like the
00:40:27.600
transgender issue where the armed forces has put, you could say, political correctness or in a more
00:40:33.760
charitable light, you could say inclusion ahead of military readiness. And I think that's Tucker Carlson's
00:40:38.640
point. Now, what was really unacceptable, whether you agree with Tucker or not, was you had several
00:40:44.000
Defense Department accounts on social media blasting Tucker Carlson, not only blasting him over the
00:40:50.640
substance of what he said, but also suggesting directly that he had no right to say it because
00:40:56.160
he's a civilian who hasn't served in uniform. When the military starts telling journalists that they
00:41:01.840
have no right to criticize or examine military policies because they are civilians. Now you have
00:41:09.280
a rogue military. You have a military operating outside of the umbrella of civilian control.
00:41:14.160
And this seems to be okay with the Biden administration, as long as the targets are
00:41:17.680
conservative. There was also an extraordinary press conference where Pentagon spokesman,
00:41:22.080
John Kirby, a political flack of note, who despite his distinguished military career has always been on
00:41:27.520
the left and was a State Department spokesman under Obama. He attacked Tucker Carlson. And the way the
00:41:33.120
Pentagon presented that was as Pentagon spokesman smites Fox News host. They used the term smites,
00:41:40.880
like in the biblical sense. And they claimed that what Tucker Carlson was smited for doing was dissing
00:41:47.600
diversity. So the military, the Pentagon characterized Tucker Carlson's specific criticism of a specific
00:41:55.040
issue, pregnant flight suits, women, women in combat situations, let's say. And they made it about
00:42:01.600
diversity. Diversity includes a lot more than just pregnant soldiers. Diversity includes racial diversity,
00:42:07.680
other kinds of diversity. So basically, the Pentagon made Tucker Carlson out to be a racist
00:42:12.160
on the basis of nothing, just because he criticized the military's ongoing policy toward pregnant
00:42:19.920
soldiers and so forth. Now, again, you can disagree with Tucker on the substance. It was extraordinary
00:42:24.880
that uniformed senior members of the military and the Pentagon itself attacked a Fox News host. And when he
00:42:32.400
hit back, they doubled down. They didn't stop. Now, there's one account, I believe, associated with
00:42:36.960
the Marines that did try to back away from its comments. But what's really frightening about this
00:42:41.840
is the degree to which there's been almost no compunction whatsoever about having the military go
00:42:47.760
after Tucker Carlson in this way. You know, they never did the same thing with regard to Islamic
00:42:53.840
jihadists within the ranks. But there seems to be zero tolerance for conservative views. And this is all
00:42:59.120
coming at a time when the military under Lloyd Austin is busy trying to weed out, quote unquote,
00:43:03.920
extremists within its ranks. We don't know what extremism means in this context. Lloyd Austin said
00:43:09.040
there's going to be a 60 day stand down, quote unquote, in the military in various branches while
00:43:13.840
they ferret out the extremists because there were a handful of former soldiers and a few reservists,
00:43:20.800
maybe one or two active duty people who were arrested at the Capitol riot. But we're talking about
00:43:24.320
maybe about a dozen people. The military as a whole is now being tarnished. And Lloyd Austin is
00:43:28.880
rooting out extremism. Well, the examples of extremism that we're aware of all have to do
00:43:34.160
with the Capitol riot. We don't know that the military is going after Black Lives Matter sympathizers
00:43:38.320
or Antifa supporters in the military. We don't know that. But we do know that they're trying to target
00:43:43.840
people who supported the Capitol protests. And there's no real solid definition of extremism.
00:43:51.040
So now you have the military going after Tucker Carlson and Fox News, who are within the mainstream,
00:43:56.160
well within the mainstream. In fact, Fox News takes a lot of heat from Trump supporters for
00:43:59.760
being too critical of Trump. Fox News well within the mainstream. Now you have the military going
00:44:05.280
after Fox News and Tucker Carlson. It's an unprecedented politicization of the military.
00:44:10.960
And conservatives are starting to sound the alarm. I don't know why leftists are silent,
00:44:15.680
I guess, with the exception of one or two, like the Glenn Greenwalds of the world, who've really come
00:44:20.240
out as as vociferous defenders of free speech. But most of the Democrats are completely silent
00:44:25.360
about this, completely unconcerned, apparently, that the shoe could be on the other foot one day.
00:44:29.600
And that if you have, you know, a Ted Cruz as secretary of defense, that Democrats could be
00:44:34.480
rooted out of the military or attack. By the way, that would never happen because Ted Cruz is a
00:44:38.160
constitutional conservative. Republicans seem to take the separation of politics and the military
00:44:43.200
rather seriously. But Democrats seem to think the military can be deployed in the service of their
00:44:48.320
ideological ambitions to crush their political opponents.
00:44:51.440
You're so right. You know, I just went on the Navy's homepage today because
00:44:56.000
for some weird reason, the US Navy is using some cyber security excuse to spy on rebel news. I found
00:45:06.400
that really creepy. I went to the Navy homepage. First thing I saw is the 60 day stand down to root out
00:45:12.240
extremism. And I just thought, you know, that that's what the left accused the right of.
00:45:17.600
McCarthyism. We don't even know what extremism is. I mean, it's transforming the military into
00:45:24.960
like a palace guard, into a personal gang of the leader. And I mean, I saw Ted Cruz wrote a scorching
00:45:32.640
letter to the secretary of defense, but I haven't seen much more criticism of it. I find it terrifying.
00:45:39.360
Again, the issue here is how they define extremism. I think that conservatives and liberals would agree
00:45:48.400
that we don't want violent extremists in the military. Major Nidal Hassan, who carried out the
00:45:54.480
Fort Hood massacre in 2009, was an Islamic extremist in the military. And I think everybody would agree,
00:46:01.920
we don't want Islamic extremists in the military. I think there would be broad agreement. We don't want
00:46:06.720
white supremacist extremists in the military. But the military is already one of the most diverse
00:46:11.280
institutions in America, probably the most diverse institution in America. So it's the last place you'd
00:46:17.600
expect to find white supremacists. It doesn't mean there isn't racism in the military. And it doesn't
00:46:22.320
mean that you don't have white supremacists to join the military or people who become white supremacists
00:46:26.640
after the military and they abuse the military skills that they've learned and so forth. But I
00:46:32.560
don't think there's any disagreement. We don't want violent extremists. But what Democrats seem not to
00:46:37.200
care about is that the military is going after people solely for their views. If you just have
00:46:43.120
views that are a little off the wall, let's say, I'm not even talking about you watch Tucker Carlson on
00:46:47.120
Fox News. Suppose you have very radical left wing views. Suppose you have some rather strident right wing
00:46:54.880
views. Are your views alone enough to get you drummed out of the military? Is that what the
00:46:59.200
military is supposed to become? And again, you have an officer corps that is already more left wing,
00:47:05.200
already partial to big government, very much centered around Washington and its priorities.
00:47:10.000
And that officer corps was never quite comfortable with President Donald Trump. A lot of the retired
00:47:15.440
generals and admirals of the last several years came out against Donald Trump, said that he should be
00:47:21.840
removed as soon as possible. That was Admiral McRaven, former commanding officer of the Navy SEALs.
00:47:26.400
The rank and file, the enlisted members of the military tended to be much more supportive of
00:47:30.160
President Trump. And that's where you saw soldiers showing up at Trump speeches with MAGA hats and that
00:47:35.280
sort of thing. So the military has really struggled to deal with a lot of the political divisions in the
00:47:40.720
country because, of course, Americans are Americans in uniform or out. And some of those divisions do show up
00:47:45.440
within the military itself. But to have the Pentagon going after the major conservative news outlet in the
00:47:52.080
United States and on a spurious basis making up this nonsense about diversity, they could have responded
00:47:57.920
simply and said, pregnant women serve with distinction in the U.S. Armed Forces and left it at that. And they could
00:48:05.120
have given the facts of the policy, as I did to you, that I know, again, from my wife's experience, where she's been through
00:48:11.440
three pregnancies in the Navy Reserve. And pregnant sailors and soldiers and so forth serve with distinction.
00:48:20.480
They don't go into the front lines of combat. That was a remark Tucker Carlson made. He said,
00:48:25.280
we're sending pregnant women to fight our wars. Well, we're not really. When women become pregnant,
00:48:29.440
they are assigned different duties. So my wife, who's in helicopter maintenance, you know, she's not going
00:48:34.240
to be climbing on top of a bird anymore, you know, straddling a rotor and, you know, tugging a wrench because it's
00:48:38.800
just it's a little hard. But, you know, you know, she'll take a few months off from doing that.
00:48:45.280
But she can still do other things. And and the military has become more and more accommodating,
00:48:50.560
even under and especially under President Donald Trump. This is something we want our military to
00:48:55.440
be. We want our military to be a place where women can advance. And it is a place where women advance.
00:49:00.240
And it's a place of diversity in our country. It's not a source of extremism in the United States.
00:49:06.720
But what's happening is the Biden administration is turning the military into a political weapon.
00:49:11.600
And there seem to be a lot of officers and senior enlisted people who are eager to comply and who
00:49:16.720
are eager to show the new boss just how compliant they can be. And maybe that's because there was
00:49:23.680
talk of using the military to suppress some of the Black Lives Matter riots last summer. So the
00:49:28.160
military feels it was politicized already. I don't think Donald Trump ever politicized the military,
00:49:32.160
by the way. That was Democrats accusing the military being political for suppressing riots
00:49:36.720
that never should have taken place in the first place. I mean, when the National Guard had to be
00:49:40.240
called out in Washington, D.C. to stop a mob from overrunning the White House, I think that was a
00:49:44.720
good use of military resources. And it's only because Democrats were encouraging these people that those
00:49:50.000
mobs were there. But Democrats said that was a politicized use of the military. OK, that's their view. I don't
00:49:56.960
think it was. But it does seem that that message has disturbed enough people in the military that
00:50:02.480
they seem to be overcorrecting now and going out on a limb in public on social media accounts and on
00:50:07.200
the Pentagon website and from the podium at the Pentagon and attacking the opposition and opposition
00:50:12.720
media voices. It's really a dangerous juncture. And Ted Cruz is making a noise about it. I wish
00:50:17.600
more Republicans would. But we'll see what comes of what Ted Cruz is doing. I think he's asking some
00:50:21.200
very important questions that the military will have to answer. Yeah. Well, I'm glad Ted Cruz is doing it.
00:50:26.080
Of course, Canada is so far gone, you wouldn't even believe it. Thankfully,
00:50:31.840
you know, well, there is no silver lining to it. And the fact that they're not just looking at
00:50:38.480
extremism within the ranks, whatever extremism means, but they're spying on journalists even
00:50:44.400
outside of America. I mean, that's very troubling to me since we're the target of it. We'll keep you
00:50:50.000
posted on that story too, Joel. Thank you so much. Great to see you. There you have it, Joel Pollack,
00:50:54.320
Senior Editor-at-Large at Breitbart.com. I find this story very strange because,
00:50:58.480
of course, it is touching us here at Rebel News in a manner of speaking as well. Stay with us more.
00:51:02.640
What do you think of those spy memos? What do you think of that? I think it's crazy. I think it's
00:51:19.040
really creepy that military contractors were hired to spy on us in the States. But, you know, there's
00:51:27.280
no accounting for when you've got $160 billion sloshing around. A lot of stupid things happen.
00:51:31.840
But for the Canadian Special Forces under Harjeet Sajjan to pay foreign contractors to spy on us,
00:51:37.200
what do you think of that? And you think we're the only ones? That's the show for today, my friends.
00:51:43.200
Until tomorrow, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, do you at home. Good night.