Rebel News Podcast - Why I think the pandemic is over

00:00:00.000 Hello, my rebels. Today I make the case that the pandemic's over. It's just over. The health

00:00:06.680 scare is over. The actual death toll, unfortunately in the thousands, it's in great decline in 82%

00:00:16.140 of the deaths. Well, they were people in old folks' homes, which doesn't make it any less 1.00

00:00:21.080 tragic, but it shows that this maybe wasn't quite a general pandemic, but a problem with a few

00:00:25.840 key institutions. I'll make my case for why we're done and should just go back to normal now.

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00:00:55.840 Tonight, I think the pandemic's over. I'll make my case. It's May 8th, and this is the Ezra LeVant Show.

00:01:12.640 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?

00:01:16.140 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.

00:01:20.460 The only thing I have to say to the government of a wire publisher is because it's my bloody

00:01:25.320 right to do so.

00:01:31.520 Interesting story in the Toronto Star today. 82% of Canada's COVID-19 deaths have been in

00:01:37.580 long-term care, new data reveals. Pretty much says it all. Sure, the virus was the killer,

00:01:43.440 but an essential factor was the institutions. What was it about them? People cooped up indoors?

00:01:52.180 I don't know. Cheap foreign laborers brought in to work there without proper hygiene, maybe, 1.00

00:01:57.360 working many odd jobs at different facilities just to cobble together enough money to live on

00:02:03.080 in the expensive cities. So the health staff became super spreaders themselves. I don't know.

00:02:09.340 Maybe they didn't have proper face masks because Trudeau shipped them all to China in February.

00:02:12.980 It bears investigation, don't you think? These questions should be answered, don't you think?

00:02:18.380 Hey, if you knew three months ago that this virus basically left young people alone,

00:02:24.240 but was deadly to people over 70 and very deadly to people over 80,

00:02:28.240 would you have a different opinion about the idea of shutting down schools

00:02:31.940 and every restaurant and bar and shop in the country? And if you had a parent or a grandparent

00:02:37.500 in a senior's home, maybe you would even go and pick them up and bring them back home or to the

00:02:43.160 country cottage for the duration. Seriously, that would likely have saved lives and certainly saved jobs

00:02:49.740 in this pandemic pandemonium. We need to investigate what happened to these seniors' homes.

00:02:56.680 I think it's a lack of masks by staff. Staff working in various homes, living cramped together

00:03:02.640 with other temporary foreign workers because they're cheap foreign laborers trying to make 0.99

00:03:06.120 a go of it. I suspect that's what's going on. That's what happened in Alberta with those meat

00:03:11.600 packing plants. There's nothing special at meat packing plants that makes them dangerous with this

00:03:17.080 virus. It's not about the cattle or the beef. That's not where the virus comes from or what they

00:03:21.000 actually do at these butcher shops. Again, it's temporary foreign workers who live jammed together 1.00

00:03:26.740 bunkhouse style, carpooling together in minibuses because they're saving money to send the money

00:03:31.060 back to Somalia or wherever. There may be some hygiene issues too. I don't know. They have different

00:03:37.280 standards in Somalia. But I'm saying I predict that in the more honest histories of this crisis,

00:03:43.020 we'll find out that it wasn't a pandemic in the usual sense of the term. It was actually quite a

00:03:46.780 picky virus that chose government institutions to flourish where, well, the government was in

00:03:53.280 charge of how things were, like airports. Where Canada let everyone in no matter what and still 0.93

00:03:58.500 to this day doesn't do temperature checks. That's weird, eh? I see the grocery stores are now starting

00:04:03.840 to do a quick non-invasive temperature check on people coming into the store. I think that's

00:04:08.800 probably a good idea. It's voluntary. It's not a government thing. Probably isn't even necessary.

00:04:14.040 It's probably two months too late. And grocery stores aren't actually the problem. Our open

00:04:18.180 borders are the problem. To this day, we still don't take temperature at the airport from foreign 0.94

00:04:23.020 arrivals. You know, Hong Kong is literally part of China, of course. It has a boundary between

00:04:29.180 itself and the rest of China so they can stop travelers. But it's not even a border like an 0.64

00:04:32.780 international border. And yet they guard that boundary, take people's temperatures, screen hard

00:04:37.460 at that boundary. And so their death rate in Hong Kong was 1 200th of what is here in Canada. As in,

00:04:47.440 we're 200 times more deadly here. And they don't do social distancing. Have you ever been to Hong Kong

00:04:53.940 or Tokyo or Taipei? Those are extremely crowded cities. Very dense. Everyone living on top of each

00:05:01.580 other in apartments. Everyone close to each other in the streets, on the buses, in the subways.

00:05:06.480 They couldn't social distance if they tried. There's not enough room. So instead, they just wear those

00:05:10.700 cheap masks and get a new one every day. But like I say, Trudeau gave away all our masks to China.

00:05:17.300 So the two things that Trudeau was supposed to do, guard our borders and don't give away our masks to

00:05:23.140 China, are the two things he didn't do. He got wrong. They're the two things that would have saved

00:05:27.140 thousands of lives, I think. And the one thing Trudeau loves to do, bring in cheap foreign laborers 1.00

00:05:33.520 to undercut Canadian workers' salaries, to give a labor cost break to his friends in major corporations,

00:05:39.260 many of which are foreign-owned, like Cargill and the JBS meatpacking plants. They're foreign-owned.

00:05:43.320 What are you doing? And many seniors' homes in Canada are owned by China. Did you know that?

00:05:47.660 So Trudeau's temporary foreign workers were the super spreaders. So yeah, this wasn't a pandemic 0.99

00:05:54.780 in the Greek root of that word, the etymology pan, meaning all, like panorama, and demic from

00:06:03.700 demos, meaning people like democracy, pandemic. No, it didn't affect all people. Mainly people that

00:06:12.540 were put in dangerous institutions and put at risk because no one was guarding our borders,

00:06:16.720 and no one is even now. But I tell you that we're past the worst of it. You'll recall all those charts

00:06:22.740 of doom, those models that showed how many thousands or hundreds of thousands of deaths

00:06:26.880 were going to happen, and how we all had to be locked in our homes to flatten the curve. Now,

00:06:31.320 the idea wasn't that flattening the curve would stop us from getting sick. The idea was to slow the

00:06:36.580 rate of new people getting sickness, to spread it out over time, so the hospitals wouldn't be

00:06:40.840 overwhelmed all at once. The number of sick would be the same, if you look at the graphs. It was just

00:06:46.460 to pace that. That's what flatten the curves mean. The area of the curve, to speak mathematically,

00:06:52.880 was the same. It's just instead of like that, it was like that. Well, look at this. Look what

00:06:59.400 reality is. Not the worst case curve, not even the best case curve. A number so small, it surely

00:07:05.080 ought to rebuke every public health official and epidemiologist who predicted the apocalypse.

00:07:09.520 These are the people we entrusted all of society to, and their models, and they couldn't have been

00:07:14.620 more wrong. Now, thank goodness they were wrong. And I guess give them some slack. We had no idea

00:07:19.020 how bad this disease was or could be, because the Chinese Communist Party lies and lies about 0.97

00:07:24.220 everything. This was their Chernobyl in a way. They were in cover-up mode. I don't doubt that an 0.89

00:07:28.840 enormous number of people in China did die, much more than they admitted. I don't know. It could have

00:07:34.420 been the same thing here, I guess, but it wasn't, thank God. But even the experts with their models

00:07:39.400 didn't seem to believe it themselves. Here's Neil Ferguson, the British epidemiologist who was

00:07:46.360 the voice of gloom and doom over there in the UK, but his work was cited globally as the terrifying

00:07:52.200 reason to lock us all down. Even I referred to his work months ago at his Imperial College study

00:07:58.380 showing how many people likely died in China, but he was wrong. Not just wrong, he apparently didn't

00:08:04.440 even believe it himself. While he was hectoring the UK to stay at home and not to mix households,

00:08:10.940 not to go outside, he was having a secret romantic affair with a married woman, a mom. She would leave

00:08:18.960 her household, leave her husband and kids behind, and go to his place for their trysts. So he obviously

00:08:25.960 never really believed separate the household things himself. He loved being a celebrity these past two

00:08:31.520 months. He loved how suddenly people listened to him, even politicians. He loved the power of telling

00:08:36.820 a nation and the world, be locked up, and them doing it. But he never even really believed in

00:08:42.500 himself, or at least he felt he was above following his own rules for his lover. That's worth remembering

00:08:48.400 when we think about other so-called experts with their models telling us the world will end unless we,

00:08:53.400 oh, I don't know, pay a carbon tax or stop using fossil fuels or whatever that doom and gloom

00:08:57.660 prediction says. Look at the economic carnage from just two months of this. Imagine doing this

00:09:02.500 permanently on purpose to save the world. Imagine how much pain and death that would cause.

00:09:09.080 Here's a sad but predictable story from British Columbia, because everyone cleared up the hospitals

00:09:13.620 to make way for that wave of virus cases that never came, that spike. So many elective surgeries had

00:09:20.800 to be postponed. I know what an elective surgery is. It means something that's not an emergency. You

00:09:25.500 choose to do it. But you leave something like that for a while, it becomes an emergency. Cataract

00:09:30.300 surgery to see a hip replacement. Are those emergencies? They probably feel like they are

00:09:36.480 to the person in question. How many cancer exams were missed because of the panic? So how many people

00:09:41.120 don't know they have cancer, wasn't diagnosed? I guarantee you that more Canadians will have died 1.00

00:09:46.020 from the shutdown of our normal health regimen than from the virus by the time this is done. And that

00:09:51.020 doesn't even add in those who will die from poverty-inflicted causes from the Great Recession.

00:09:55.760 Suicides alone will be in the hundreds. Add one more percent to the unemployment rules in Canada. That's

00:10:00.800 an additional 150 suicides per percentage. I think Canadians are done with the virus, and we're done with

00:10:07.620 the panic and the reaction. I think some people aren't. People who were given a surprise paid vacation, and by

00:10:14.180 that I mean people living in the unreality of government land. Government employees who get paid no matter what.

00:10:20.540 And I include teachers in that. University professors, experts in things like transgenderism or whatever.

00:10:26.640 All the people who hector us, they're just taking a vacation. You think they were laid off? They were

00:10:31.240 not laid off. Only the little people were. Waiters, waitresses, shopkeepers, barbers.

00:10:38.600 Show me someone who wants the lockdown to continue, and I'll show you either a megalomaniac like Neil

00:10:42.620 Ferguson and Teresa Tam, or a politician loving the limelight, or someone who's getting paid

00:10:49.320 to watch Netflix all day because their government bureaucracy shut down. And then there's just the

00:10:54.280 absurd policing. Like the mom who was arrested, handcuffed, and put in the police car, separated

00:10:59.080 from her five-year-old daughter for the crime of going on a swing in a park.

00:11:02.480 He didn't want to hear it. He grabbed my arm, took my backpack off, proceeded to put me in

00:11:07.440 handcuffs, separated me from my daughter. I was taken up to the police vehicle where a cop did a body

00:11:14.400 search on me, and it was very thorough and invasive. From there, they put me into the back of the cop car,

00:11:20.560 and I didn't even know where my daughter was at that time. They went through all my things against

00:11:26.720 my will. We were separated for about 20 minutes. He called me an idiot and yelled in my face. They

00:11:31.920 finally came back and released me from the cop car, took my handcuffs off, and gave me an $880 ticket.

00:11:38.960 Yeah, there has not been a single death in Canada of a child due to a coronavirus, let alone caught

00:11:45.280 outside. Not one single case. I wonder if there's something to that, you know. In the 1918-1919 Spanish

00:11:51.120 flu doctors said that sunshine and fresh air were actually the most effective therapy of everything

00:11:55.760 they tried, as opposed to being indoors with bad air, which just happens to describe seniors homes,

00:12:00.640 doesn't it? The opposite of which is parks and playgrounds, which our know-nothing experts told

00:12:05.280 us was illegal. Yeah, no. I think people are pretty much done with all this. I like Ontario Premier

00:12:12.240 Doug Ford, and I liked his late brother Rob Ford, the former Toronto mayor, even more. But Doug Ford

00:12:17.040 has been enjoying the media praise a bit too much for acting like a mini-me to Trudeau. I think he

00:12:21.760 started to like being praised by the Toronto Star. That never happened before. I think he forgot who he

00:12:26.000 was. He certainly forgot who voted for him. And when normal people, Ford Nation, asked to go back to

00:12:32.000 work, he called them yahoos. They gave us these three projections, elevated, probable, and the lowest,

00:12:39.360 and said, oh, we got to do everything we can to avoid this. Well, we got the hospital data. The

00:12:44.080 hospital data didn't even come anywhere to their lowest predictions. So what did the justified

00:12:48.080 lockdown? So obviously, you know, the reaction was swift, and it was a blanket policy that we

00:12:56.240 modeled off of a communist dictatorship. When the government says, we didn't expect this,

00:13:00.880 and we didn't disprepare it, this is all a joke. Like, this was obvious. The only three categories of

00:13:06.080 population that must have been protected from the beginning is the elderly, the prisons, and 0.95

00:13:11.840 homeless. Those are the only three people that had to be protected from the beginning, but we are

00:13:15.680 not. We have violent offenders being released out of prisons, and we have healthy people being

00:13:20.880 confined to their homes. It makes no sense. Yeah, no, Ford is listening to the ruling class,

00:13:26.640 which he thinks he's part of now. The government union class, the class that's having the time of

00:13:30.880 their lives right now. He likes to scold people lately. It's not a very Ford thing to do.

00:13:36.880 It used to be more of a liberal thing to do. He told people not to go to their country cabins and

00:13:40.560 cottages. Please, this long weekend, do not go to your cottage. We can't stress it enough.

00:13:47.440 Well, what do you know? While Ford himself was calling anyone who wanted to go to the lake,

00:13:52.720 names and insults, he himself sneaked away to his country home to inspect the plumbing, he said.

00:13:58.400 Oh, is that what we're calling a weekend at the lake now? I just got to go inspect some plumbing.

00:14:03.280 That's probably what Neil Ferguson's mistress said, word for word. Come to think of it. Oh,

00:14:07.120 I'm just going to check some plumbing, dear. Sure you are. No different than Justin Trudeau traveling

00:14:11.920 to Quebec to visit his estranged wife Sophie over the Easter long weekend to visit with the kids. No

00:14:16.560 different than Scotland's public health officer doing the same. No different than New Zealand's

00:14:20.560 health minister doing the same. They don't actually follow the rules. What are you thinking?

00:14:25.040 What do you expect, though? No one jets around more than a climate activist like Elizabeth May, 1.00

00:14:32.320 the Green Party leader. She even flies on private jets these days. That must be nice. 0.58

00:14:37.440 Global warming worrier Leonardo DiCaprio has private jets and private yachts. So you know,

00:14:43.760 they don't really mean it. They just love the moral preening and telling other people what to do

00:14:48.240 and seeming very woke and all based on models from experts. Experts like Greta. They want us to

00:14:54.960 flatten the curve on carbon dioxide. Now we know that the only flattening that happens is to you and

00:15:01.200 me. Yeah, no, I think we're all done now, don't you? I think we're going to go outside now and go to the

00:15:06.720 park now and open up our stores now. I know some obedient types won't because we're a law-abiding 0.99

00:15:12.160 people. Some of us are passive. Some of us like being ruled. It's funny. When my friend Tommy

00:15:16.880 Robinson was in solitary confinement, it got to him after a while, he told me. He told me he started

00:15:22.080 to, in a way, love his cell, and he looked with some dread at seeing his family again. It gets into

00:15:27.520 your head, he told me. I think some people like living as prisoners, but enough of us don't.

00:15:33.520 We've let the Neil Ferguson's and the Theresa Tam's run things long enough, 1.00

00:15:36.720 and they've failed. They're getting everything wrong. I think we're pretty much all done now.

00:15:43.280 Don't you think? Stay with us for more.

00:15:58.000 Welcome back. Well, of course, the political parties are considered the main actors in any

00:16:04.000 election campaign, but in recent elections, there have been hundreds of so-called third-party

00:16:09.360 campaigns, and they're disclosed by Elections Canada, which tracks their spending and other

00:16:14.960 activities. Hundreds of them, and by my own inspection, between 90 and 99 percent of them

00:16:23.840 support parties of the left and do so explicitly. For example, Unifor, the union of journalists,

00:16:29.840 explicitly spends its members' dues, journalists covering the election, their union dues are spent

00:16:35.760 campaigning against the conservatives. That's just one egregious example. A more effective example

00:16:41.840 would probably be that of the plethora of environmental extremist groups, including those funded by the

00:16:47.520 United States, active in Vancouver and other parts of BC. Groups like the Dogwood Initiative and other

00:16:54.800 extreme anti-oil and gas and anti-pipeline groups. They target ridings. They see, for example,

00:17:02.480 which candidate has the greater likelihood of winning, the Liberal or the New Democrat, and then

00:17:06.720 they throw their support behind the best choice to block the conservatives. The idea being to block

00:17:13.120 oil and gas pipelines. Very effective. And some would say these foreign-funded third-party groups were

00:17:19.920 largely responsible for tipping seats in Trudeau's favor in BC in the 2015 election, again in 2019.

00:17:28.880 That's all kosher, according to the government. In fact, groups like the David Suzuki Foundation who do

00:17:35.280 campaign simply refuse to register, and that's fine too. But Elections Canada is quite busy investigating what

00:17:42.560 they think is perhaps the most egregious use of campaigning in the election. It's a group of

00:17:50.880 volunteers who are pro-life, who went out and dared to door knock for candidates that they supported. No

00:18:00.080 multi-million dollar operation, no partisan hacks like David Suzuki, just pro-life volunteers with a group

00:18:07.440 called Right Now. And Right Now is being investigated right now by Elections Canada. Right Now is co-founder

00:18:14.240 Scott Hayward joins us now via Skype from Brandon, Manitoba. Scott, welcome to the show. Did I

00:18:19.200 more or less accurately sum up your situation? Yeah, I think that's pretty accurate. Thanks for having

00:18:24.480 me on, Ezra. Well, it's a pleasure. So you registered with Elections Canada. Is that accurate?

00:18:31.520 Yeah, we registered as a third party with Elections Canada prior to the issue of the writ, as was

00:18:39.680 required by law. That was, I think, recently amended in the late spring of 2019, because we wanted to

00:18:46.480 make sure that we weren't in contravention of any statute. So you actually complied, unlike, say,

00:18:52.800 for example, the David Suzuki Foundation, which simply refuses to even register, you registered. But it

00:18:59.280 sounds like, if I'm reading the article in the National Post correctly, it's a story by Peter

00:19:03.520 Stockton. Let me just put it on the screen for a second. The story is called Anti-Abortion Group

00:19:07.120 Investigated by Elections Canada for Providing Volunteers to 2019 Candidates. It sounds like you

00:19:15.040 really just mobilized volunteers. Did you spend a lot of money? Let me ask you that.

00:19:20.800 No, you can go to the Elections Canada website, and under Reports for Third Parties, you can see

00:19:26.320 our report there. I would argue that spending less than $10,000 over the rip period isn't spending very

00:19:32.320 much money at all. And we just make sure that pro-lifers who want to see pro-life candidates

00:19:39.200 being elected, how they could do that in the most effective way, of course, is door-knocking.

00:19:43.280 That's fairly universal, regardless of what political party is running in any election.

00:19:48.480 And we told them how to do it, how door-knocking works from a universal perspective, not for a specific

00:19:54.400 candidate in particular. And if they were interested in door-knocking for their local

00:19:59.040 winnable pro-life candidate, that we would connect them with them. And that was the end of our

00:20:04.640 involvement in that regard. So we were just connecting pro-life people who wanted to door-knock and

00:20:10.800 volunteer for pro-life candidates with their local pro-life candidate.

00:20:14.400 So were those pro-life candidates, could they prospectively come from any party? If there was a

00:20:21.280 liberal candidate who's pro-life, I don't know if that's even allowed anymore, but let's say such a

00:20:25.840 thing existed, would you direct a pro-life volunteer to a pro-life liberal candidate?

00:20:32.880 Our conditions for supporting a candidate is that they have to, we do an interview with all of them

00:20:38.400 because we want to do our, you know, due diligence on them. But the number one thing that we're looking

00:20:43.760 for is, are you going to vote for pro-life legislation in the next parliament? And if it were a,

00:20:49.520 you know, Green Party candidate, or a Liberal Party candidate, or a Conservative Party candidate,

00:20:53.600 or whatever candidate who said yes, then they passed that first test. The second test that we

00:20:59.360 look at is, is that candidate actually winnable? Does that candidate have a mathematical chance

00:21:04.880 at winning their riding? And you can determine that by looking at, you know, different polling data

00:21:08.960 at the time and things of this nature. And if those candidates met those two criteria,

00:21:13.440 regardless of whatever political party they belong to, then yeah, we would send volunteers

00:21:18.800 to them from their local riding. So that frankly sounds identical to what the environmentalist

00:21:23.520 groups I mentioned did in BC, which is a great effect. They chose between the NDP and the Liberals,

00:21:29.600 that typically tip things to the Liberal category. But all they want to know is, are you going to be

00:21:34.560 anti-oil and gas, anti-pipeline? And do you have a chance of winning? It sounds like you

00:21:38.640 could have, frankly, just copied their rule book. The difference is they have millions of dollars

00:21:45.440 of foreign funding behind them, millions of dollars of Canadian funding too. You just spent

00:21:50.160 less than 10 grand. They have hundreds or thousands of people door knocking. I'm guessing you had maybe

00:21:55.920 a few dozen? Well, actually we had quite a few people respond across the country. We had just over,

00:22:02.240 or pardon me, just under a thousand people from across the country door knocking for their local

00:22:06.560 pro-life candidates. Okay. Well, that's impressive. So just under a thousand. Still in the grand scheme

00:22:11.680 of things, you know, 338 ridings in the country, a thousand distributed amongst them. So three

00:22:16.960 door knockers on average per riding, spending less than $10,000. It's a wonder that you even bothered

00:22:22.800 to register. This is so minor and modest, but it's probably better to register than to not register.

00:22:28.160 But you have then been summoned by elections, Canada's election commission for an interrogation,

00:22:36.400 just like I was for writing my Libranos book. Have you received, what was the form of that

00:22:42.880 summons? Have you answered it? Will you go to the interrogation? What are they demanding? Because

00:22:48.240 when they sent me the letter, I almost couldn't believe it. And I went and I actually videotaped my

00:22:54.000 interrogation. What's your status? Yeah. So I don't know. I'm not a lawyer. I'm a chartered

00:22:58.960 professional accountant. So I don't know what the proper legal terminology is. I don't know if

00:23:02.720 summons is the correct term. But we were sent a letter from the commissioner's office for

00:23:06.960 Elections Canada saying that there was an allegation made that we had contravened certain parts of the

00:23:12.720 Canada Elections Act and that an investigation was coming forth. And that one of the results that could

00:23:19.760 happen from that investigation, one of the conclusions could be the imposition of monetary

00:23:25.040 penalties upon our organization. So like you said, Ezra, we're a new organization. We were founded

00:23:30.960 just over four years ago. We're relatively small. We only have two full-time staff because that's all

00:23:35.680 we can afford. We don't have millions of dollars coming in every year. We're lucky to get $200,000

00:23:42.480 coming in a year. So we run in a very, very tight budget. But yeah, the letter was sent mid-February.

00:23:50.640 And we sent a letter back from our legal counsel a few weeks later saying, you know,

00:23:54.640 what exactly are these allegations? Can we see the allegations? Who made the allegations?

00:23:59.840 What specifically is laid out in the allegations? And once we get that information,

00:24:04.000 we're more than happy to cooperate and work with you on whatever information that you need.

00:24:08.880 So we sent that letter back. We also mentioned to them that, hey, you know, we're not the only

00:24:13.520 organization out there that is helping certain candidates for ideological purposes. And we

00:24:19.520 mentioned, you know, five different unions that were doing almost the same thing for the NDP,

00:24:24.560 in some cases, the Liberals. And we asked, are you investigating them? Because they're essentially

00:24:29.040 doing the same or similar thing, having her back on that. So they got back to us basically asking for

00:24:34.400 the same thing toward the end of April. And we sent them a letter back saying, like, listen,

00:24:39.680 you didn't answer any of our questions. We can't help you if you don't tell us what exactly it is

00:24:44.720 that you need. So that's where it is right now.

00:24:46.640 You know, it's so funny hearing you say that because I actually lived through that conversation.

00:24:51.680 I hope you don't mind. Let me show you a clip from when, and maybe it was the same exact

00:24:56.080 investigators. I don't know if you remember the name of the investigators, but I have dealt with five

00:25:02.400 different individuals over there. A couple of them were very senior former RCMP officers. It

00:25:06.800 wouldn't surprise me if that's who they were sticking on you. And I had the exact same question.

00:25:10.960 I said, can I see the complaint? What exactly did they say I did? And who was the complainant? Let me

00:25:16.560 show you a clip. Forgive me, because this is your story about you. But I feel like I'm listening to

00:25:22.720 myself ask the same questions. Here, take a look. Can I see the complaint against me?

00:25:28.720 The letter that you received? No. I presume that you're investigating based on a complaint.

00:25:35.920 Yeah. Oh, this is still part of the investigation. So we'll have to,

00:25:39.440 once the investigation's been completed, the commissioner will have to make a decision.

00:25:45.280 And at that point, she'll have to decide if that is releasable or not. It's not something that usually

00:25:50.320 is released. No. So it's a secret complaint? It's not a secret complaint. It's just a complaint

00:25:54.960 that's part of the investigation. And to keep the integrity of the investigation right now,

00:26:01.520 you'll understand that we can't share everything that we have.

00:26:04.400 Well, I don't want everything that you have. I just, if I'm here to meet a complaint,

00:26:09.760 but you won't show me the complaint, how can I possibly meet the complaint? How can I possibly

00:26:15.440 respond to something that you won't show me? Scott, I got to tell you, if you went to the

00:26:22.880 Elections Canada high security office, like I did in Quebec, it would be that frustrating. You would

00:26:28.560 ask questions. Can I see the complaint? Can I know? And they would stonewall you. They stonewalled me for

00:26:33.040 an hour. Now, I understand you have a lawyer, Alberto Polizagopoulos, who I've worked with before.

00:26:40.080 He's a very bright, very dedicated guy. I'm glad you've lawyered up because these guys will trick

00:26:45.920 you and trap you. What do you think the next step is? If they're not going to provide you with any

00:26:51.440 information, are you just hunkering down and waiting for some ruling against you? What's next?

00:26:58.240 Honestly, I don't know, Ezra. You're right. We had to seek legal counsel. I'm not a lawyer. You know,

00:27:05.040 my colleague, Alyssa, isn't a lawyer. So we have a fiduciary responsibility to our board of directors,

00:27:10.320 to our volunteers, to our donors, to make sure that we get proper legal counsel. And Alberto's is an

00:27:16.080 excellent lawyer with an excellent track record. So we sought the proper legal counsel. What is going to

00:27:22.080 happen next? I honestly don't know. The ball is in Elections Canada's court. You know, we had reached out

00:27:27.600 to them back in the summer to make sure that we were about to engage in was, you know, in line with

00:27:33.520 the latest version of the statute of the Canada Elections Act and things of this nature. So I guess

00:27:39.760 we're just waiting to hear back. Are they going to do an investigation? Are they going to have a ruling?

00:27:44.240 I honestly don't know. But we're just preparing for any possible outcomes that might come from that.

00:27:51.600 You know, there is one key difference between what you did and what I did. I just wrote a book.

00:27:55.840 I wrote a book. And of course, there is no way I would ever register with the government to write

00:28:03.120 a book. I don't live in communist China or North Korea or Iran. We don't believe in registering to

00:28:08.400 write a book. So I didn't. I never will. You did register. And that's fine. I mean, you felt like you

00:28:16.640 fit under the law. You did the right thing. You checked the boxes. You filled out the forms.

00:28:20.160 So you actually complied, looks to me. But they're still interrogating you and have to,

00:28:27.760 at least with me. I'm defiant. I'm uncooperative. I don't think I have to cooperate. I'm an author.

00:28:36.400 But you actually follow the rules and they're still targeting you. Do you believe this is

00:28:40.800 ideologically motivated? Do you think this is some sort of vendetta against pro-lifers?

00:28:44.640 I mean, it could be. I don't know for sure. I don't have any hard evidence that it is 100%

00:28:51.200 that that is the case. But it'd be interesting if they do not open up investigations into maybe

00:28:57.640 some of those unions that were helping candidates who probably happen to not be pro-life, being from

00:29:03.960 certain political parties. That would, to me, suggest that this is ideologically and politically

00:29:10.320 motivated. But at this point, I simply don't have enough information to make that stand.

00:29:15.680 And what we do know is that, like you had mentioned, we did our level best and we did a

00:29:21.840 reasonable amount of lay work to make sure that we were compliant with the very new, I would say,

00:29:31.200 amendments to the Act. We reached out to Elections of Canada prior to registering to make sure that

00:29:37.360 everything was all right that we were about to engage in was, in fact, legally allowed. And we

00:29:42.880 didn't hear anything throughout the election campaign and we didn't hear anything for quite

00:29:46.960 some time until after the election campaign. So we were quite surprised to receive that letter. So

00:29:52.080 it will be interesting. I would not necessarily be surprised if it were politically or ideologically

00:29:57.840 motivated. But I don't have enough information at this time to say that's 100% the case.

00:30:03.200 Well, let me say this. I'm glad you've got a lawyer. It's always a good idea to lawyer up when

00:30:08.080 you're dealing with tricksters like the Liberal government. I have not heard back from Elections

00:30:15.280 Canada about my case in about three months, which tells me they're either moving at the speed of

00:30:22.400 government or they're taking a break because of the virus or they don't want to go another round

00:30:27.920 where they're being embarrassed in public. That could be it because the video I recorded

00:30:31.920 of my session there when they were interrogating me that went viral.

00:30:36.640 I would like to help you if you want the help, if you need the help. Maybe they're going to go away.

00:30:41.760 Maybe. I think they're going to come for you because they see a young, mild-mannered fella in

00:30:47.520 Brandon, Manitoba, and they say, easy pickings. No offense. You come across as such a nice guy,

00:30:53.440 they think, oh, we can tune this guy up. You got a lawyer with you, so that helps. But if you need help,

00:30:59.040 either in crowdfunding to pay for your lawyer or just in media coverage, please feel free to reach

00:31:06.080 out because I believe that you've got to push back hard and not go submissively because otherwise

00:31:13.920 they'll just devour you. I think if you fought back, if the facts are as you say they are,

00:31:19.920 I think that this is something that not only they will drop, but we could teach them a lesson and stop

00:31:25.040 them from doing this abusive, punitive investigations of Trudeau's enemies list in the future. I think

00:31:31.760 that's exactly what this is. It's an enemies list. They went after my book. They went after your volunteer

00:31:37.760 door knockers. I see a pattern. Will you let me know if we can be of any help in the future, either

00:31:45.360 through crowdfunding or through giving you more publicity? I really appreciate, first off, the kind

00:31:51.680 words that you think, first, that I'm young and mild-mannered. I might have some people in my past

00:31:58.160 who might disagree with you on that, but you think so, so that's good enough for me. And I appreciate

00:32:03.280 the help, whether it be crowdfunding for paying for our legal fees and any potential fines that might be

00:32:11.120 imposed upon us. And who knows where this will go? It might go beyond the auspices of an

00:32:16.800 administrative investigations within Elections Canada. So, as this rolls out, like I said,

00:32:21.680 right now it's Elections Canada's court. So, we're just waiting for them to respond. But as it rolls out,

00:32:28.160 yeah, we're more than happy to accept help and work with people who are wanting to help us out with

00:32:33.840 this particular case. Well, for sure. I mean, yesterday it was my book. Today it's your pro-life

00:32:38.880 door knockers. Tomorrow, who knows who it is? It's Trudeau turning the bureaucracy into his

00:32:44.800 personal paramilitary squad going after his enemies. We won't let that happen. And by the way,

00:32:50.080 I don't mean to be punctilious, but we would help you fight like hell, but we would never pay the fine

00:32:56.480 because, to me, that's submitting. And I know you obviously have a fighting spirit. I appreciate your

00:33:02.720 time today. I wish you so much good luck. Tell me the website of your organization so we can share

00:33:06.880 it with our viewers. Yeah, absolutely. The organization's website is itstartsrightnow.ca.

00:33:13.280 If people out there are wanting to help us out with our legal fees and dealing with this issue

00:33:20.480 with Elections Canada, you're more than welcome to go to the donate button. We have a big red button

00:33:24.960 in the top right corner. You can click on that. You can join up to receive information from us.

00:33:31.360 Of course, we're involved in elections federally and provincially. Right now, there is the Conservative

00:33:37.680 Party of Canada leadership race. And as of taping, we have a week left to go to sell memberships

00:33:42.880 in order to be eligible to vote in that leadership race. So we're helping pro-lifers do that.

00:33:47.920 Who knows if we'll get investigated for that or not. But as far as I know, we're in compliance with

00:33:54.080 the act as it's written. So anyways, people can visit our website and we're on Facebook, Twitter,

00:33:58.160 Instagram. And feel free to reach out to us, you know, send us a note or whatever. It's interesting,

00:34:03.120 Ezra, we sent out an email a few minutes ago. And already, I'm just looking at my phone,

00:34:08.640 we have someone who had reached back to us saying, you know, I'm really happy that I'm a Green Party

00:34:13.920 supporter and pro-life. And I'm really happy you're getting investigated by Elections Canada,

00:34:18.400 not because I want bad things for you, but because that obviously means that you're really effective.

00:34:22.400 And so it's interesting that we got a Green Party supporter because that is a

00:34:27.280 leadership race that we're also looking into because there are a lot of people who are pro-life

00:34:31.840 that belong to the Green Party. And I mean, you can mention that earlier, we're a nonpartisan

00:34:36.160 organization. We just want to make sure we advance the pro-life issue in the House of Commons,

00:34:41.680 in our provincial legislatures, regardless of political affiliation.

00:34:45.040 Well, that's a perfect note to end on. And it proves the point that you are indeed nonpartisan.

00:34:50.160 But of course, even if you were partisan, you registered, you complied. I mean, Unifor,

00:34:55.600 the journalists union, couldn't be more partisan. They despise conservatives.

00:34:59.360 They certainly haven't been investigated because they're Trudeau's errand boys. Well,

00:35:03.440 listen, it's been a pleasure to meet you, Scott Hayward, the co-founder of Right Now.

00:35:07.840 Good luck. And please keep in touch with us if we can help.

00:35:09.840 Thanks, Ezra. Appreciate the time.

00:35:12.000 All right. Our pleasure. There you have it. Stay with us. More ahead on The Rebel.

00:35:24.560 On my monologue yesterday about a Texas judge who sent a salon owner to prison, Paul writes,

00:35:29.920 this is how the left rolls. Elitist, entitled, power-hungered goons. That judge needs to be 0.90

00:35:34.240 removed from the bench. He's not a judge. He's a political stooge. You know what? I think all judges

00:35:39.520 judges are political to some degree. At least in the modern era, they get appointed by political

00:35:46.240 parties, usually based on some political partisan check. In Canada, the Liberal Party doesn't even

00:35:51.520 hide that. They check donors. They check what lawyers and law firms donate to the Liberal Party

00:35:57.760 before they make appointments. So we're no better up here than they are down there. But what they're

00:36:02.720 better at down there is they call out their judges for their politics. I'm not saying that there aren't

00:36:08.160 some amazing judges who are above politics. But both countries have partisans. The difference is

00:36:14.000 they try and hold those politically accountable. They even elect some judges down there. You know,

00:36:18.960 I'm not that opposed to that idea when I see some of the crazy rulings. Bruce writes,

00:36:23.600 I'm shocked that this happened in Texas. At least the owner didn't give a groveling apology.

00:36:28.240 Yeah, you're talking about Miss Luther again, who, Shelley Luther, I think she was so courageous and so

00:36:34.960 articulate. I would not have been that polite, I tell you that. Good for her. I think she really

00:36:39.760 is a symbol of people just done with this overreaction, don't you?

00:36:44.240 On my interview with Dave Rubin about his book, Don't Burn This Book, Troy writes,

00:36:50.160 I've been becoming a Rebel and Rubin fan. Now having watched the two of you speaking together,

00:36:53.920 I'm hooked. Great job. Well, that's nice to say. You know, I've never really interacted with him

00:36:57.760 directly before, but we've sort of orbited each other a little bit. It was nice to finally connect

00:37:02.000 with him. William writes, Dave Rubin is a great liberal. He gets close to the classical meaning of

00:37:07.360 the word. Thanks for interviewing him for a change. Well, it's funny you say that because on Monday,

00:37:12.560 Monday, well, we've hired sort of a house liberal here at Rebel News who will start working with us.

00:37:19.200 I'll wait till Monday to tell you who it is, but I'm sort of excited. And what I'm excited about

00:37:23.780 is having a liberal who doesn't believe in deplatforming or shouting or name-calling,

00:37:28.240 but rather who engages on the substance that used to be commonplace when I was a kid.

00:37:33.160 It happens pretty rarely these days. Well, I'll tell you more on Monday. Until then,

00:37:36.900 on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World Headquarters, see you at home. Good night.

00:37:41.020 Keep fighting for freedom.

00:37:42.560 Keep fighting for freedom.

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Rebel News Podcast - May 09, 2020

Why I think the pandemic is over

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