Rebel News Podcast - April 20, 2019


Will Jason Kenney really fight back against foreign-funded anti-oil lobbyists？


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Jason Kenney is the new Prime Minister of Alberta, and he's got a plan to fight back against the anti-oil and gas extremists that have been dominating our political conversation for the past decade. Is he really fighting back against foreign-funded extremists?

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00:00:00.000 Hello, Rebels. This is a show I think you'll find interesting if you're Albertan, if you
00:00:04.700 care about oil and gas, or more to the point, if you hate these foreign-funded anti-oil
00:00:10.080 sands destroyers that have been dominating our political conversation for a decade, including,
00:00:15.800 by the way, Gerald Butts of Justin Trudeau's office, who you may know used to run the World
00:00:20.400 Wildlife Fund in Canada. Anyways, I hope you enjoy this show. Hey, can I invite you to
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00:00:31.780 better. Obviously, you can see the documents I refer to, see the interviews. And you get access
00:00:36.720 to Sheila Gunn-Reed's show and David Menzi's show. And it's important because it helps keep our boat
00:00:42.880 floating. It pays the bills. It's $8 a month. Please consider becoming a premium subscriber
00:00:47.920 at the rebel.media slash shows. All right. Without further ado, here is my assessment
00:00:55.800 of how Jason Kenney can fight back against the foreign-funded extremists.
00:01:01.420 You're listening to a Rebel Media Podcast.
00:01:04.720 Tonight, is Jason Kenney really going to fight back against foreign-funded anti-oil lobby groups?
00:01:10.420 It's April 19th, and this is The Ezra LeVant Show.
00:01:12.820 Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:01:18.600 There's 8,500 customers here, and you won't give them an answer.
00:01:22.660 The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody
00:01:27.520 right to do so.
00:01:34.400 Alberta's election was on Tuesday night. By the way, we covered that on a three-and-a-half-hour
00:01:39.780 live broadcast, which I thought was pretty fun. I was here at Rebel World headquarters. Sheila
00:01:46.260 and Kian were in Calgary at the Kenney election night event. I thought it was pretty fun.
00:01:51.820 Polls officially closed that night at 8 p.m. Mountain Time, but our decision desk was so good
00:01:57.580 that we officially declared a United Conservative Party majority at 7.50 p.m., making us the first
00:02:04.800 media outlet to do so. That's how good we are. I'm joking around just a little bit. I enjoyed
00:02:09.520 that night. Our viewers seemed to like it. Did you know that for most of the night, we
00:02:13.780 had more people watching our YouTube live stream than were watching the CBC live stream? What
00:02:20.240 do you think about that? That's a fact. And look at how apoplectic the left was. Look at
00:02:26.460 this guy. He even changed his Twitter name to be mean to me. He said, so, the United Conservative
00:02:33.740 Party gave Rebel Media space to report live from Jason Kenney's election night party in
00:02:38.160 Calgary. Now that's access. The racists and white supremacists are already in the building.
00:02:44.200 Yet another warning sign going forward. Yeah, mate, I'm Jewish. I think you're going to have
00:02:51.480 to find a new insult for the rebel besides Nazi. That is, if you guys actually want to win
00:02:57.140 an election. I'm actually worried, though, as a Jew, that the word Nazi is being thrown
00:03:03.860 around so much, it's becoming debased. It's losing its meaning. The people just think it
00:03:08.060 means a generic insult, like calling someone a dummy or something. So that if we actually
00:03:13.460 need to use the word Nazi, if there actually is a Nazi, and we won't have a word to mean
00:03:18.960 it, we won't have a tool, because we will have cried wolf so often. But you see the madness
00:03:24.460 of the left. I call it rebel derangement syndrome. It's a version of Trump derangement syndrome
00:03:29.540 or Stephen Harper derangement syndrome. The guy who wrote that is some kook, but it was
00:03:35.040 retweeted with approval by dozens of other mainstream media journalists. And now I know
00:03:42.060 you've never heard of Chris Selle before. He's an incel editorial writer at the National
00:03:47.840 Post. And he wrote this. He said, in response to that tweet I just wrote you, he said, that
00:03:52.820 is legitimately bananas. No serious conservative party should let rebel in the building.
00:03:59.400 Yeah, it's a free country, mate. With a free press, section 2B of the Charter of Rights,
00:04:04.180 if you're interested. Free press is actually conservative value, something the National
00:04:09.160 Post used to care a bit about, used to know a bit about, but I guess they're in full bailout
00:04:14.820 mode now. Look, I think it's a bit of jealousy. Did you know that Kian's video of him accosting
00:04:20.960 Anne McGrath, you know, the communist who was running as an NDP candidate in the writing
00:04:25.700 of Calgary Varsity? This video we're showing right here of him asking her about being a
00:04:30.000 communist. And within 90 seconds, she panicked and literally took out her phone and down 9-1-1
00:04:34.500 emergency phone call. That video is the number one most watched YouTube video by any media
00:04:41.160 outlet in Canada covering the Alberta election. More than anything CTV did, more than anything
00:04:45.580 CBC did. That video right there. And then Kian made that billboard truck. You know, the
00:04:51.440 one that went around showing she was a communist with that Soviet anthem. As you know, this pressure
00:04:58.180 on Anne McGrath pushed her to renounce, to publicly renounce her communism at a community
00:05:07.020 forum. Did you catch that part?
00:05:08.780 I want to acknowledge also something that's come up about my youth. And I want to assure
00:05:16.140 you that I am not a communist.
00:05:24.920 Four decades ago, when I was a young student, I was a member. And I deeply regret that. It
00:05:31.840 was a mistake and I'm very sorry. An important part of Leninism, of course, is any means necessary.
00:05:39.420 Obviously, you would lie if you had to, to be a good communist. So I'm sorry, I just don't believe
00:05:44.700 that after being a communist for decades, she suddenly renounces it on the eve of the election.
00:05:49.320 But obviously, Kian's campaign had a real impact if she felt compelled to renounce her past. And look
00:05:57.080 at this. Look at this. This is the election results in Calgary Varsity. Look at that. The UCP
00:06:04.080 candidate beat McGrath by just a few hundred votes. I truly believe Kian and his commie hunting assault 1.00
00:06:15.700 vehicle are to credit for that. I mean, can you explain it otherwise? Just a few hundred votes. I
00:06:21.520 think Kian won it. Which I think might help explain why the media party hates us and is jealous of us
00:06:29.140 because people, especially in Alberta, watch us and trust us. We had 5,000 lawn signs going up
00:06:36.680 saying, stop, Notley. Sheila's bestselling book of the same name was a huge hit. Like her past
00:06:44.420 selling books on the same sorts of subjects and all of the above done without a dime of government
00:06:50.100 bailout money. Yeah, I think I know why our competitors don't like the rebel. Anyways, that was a long
00:06:57.180 tangent about the election. I think it's out of my system now. Will you forgive me? It's great to have
00:07:03.640 the NDP out of Alberta. But I'd like to go back to the key moment for me, at least on election night. So I
00:07:09.240 was here watching the whole thing. And Kenny gave a long speech. And most of it was predictable. You know,
00:07:14.040 boilerplate conservative stuff. He's been giving speeches for 25 years. Most of it was a repeat of what he
00:07:18.680 said in the campaign. But the crescendo, the apex, the part that got the biggest cheers from the
00:07:24.320 audience was when he said he's finally going to fight back against the foreign-funded anti-oil
00:07:32.020 extremists. And now, friends, I have a message, another message, a message to those foreign-funded 0.82
00:07:40.320 special interests, who have been leading a campaign of economic sabotage against this great province.
00:07:49.800 To the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, to the Tides Foundation, to Lead Now, to the David Suzuki Foundation,
00:07:59.640 and to all of the others, your days of pushing around Albertans with impunity just ended.
00:08:07.960 We Albertans are patient, and we're fair-minded. But we've had enough of your campaign of defamation.
00:08:37.940 And double standards. So today, today, with this election, we begin to stand up for ourselves,
00:08:45.440 for our jobs, and for our future.
00:08:51.340 Today, we Albertans begin to fight back.
00:08:58.160 From this day forward, whenever you lie about how we produce energy,
00:09:03.740 we will tell the truth assertively, and we will use every means at our disposal to hold you to account.
00:09:14.740 When multinational companies like HSBC boycott Alberta, we'll boycott them.
00:09:21.060 We will launch a public inquiry into the foreign source of funds behind the campaign to landlock Alberta's energy.
00:09:35.060 And we will ban foreign money from our politics, and use every legal tool at our disposal to defend the working women and men of Alberta.
00:09:44.820 That was a long clip there, but I wanted to show it to you.
00:09:49.080 And here's my point.
00:09:50.520 By that moment, Kenny had won.
00:09:53.520 The votes were cast.
00:09:54.600 So he wasn't campaigning anymore.
00:09:56.040 He wasn't trying to get more people to support him anymore.
00:09:57.860 He didn't have to say that if he didn't mean that.
00:10:00.160 So I think maybe he means it.
00:10:02.220 In past shows, I've emphasized a few things he can do to really mean it.
00:10:07.820 He can bring in new laws, like South Dakota's law against riot boosting.
00:10:12.040 It basically says if you foment a violent protest against oil and gas or anything else,
00:10:16.840 you, the fomenter, the booster, are on the hook.
00:10:19.780 Even if you're at Greenpeace headquarters in Amsterdam, if you boosted a riot, they'll prosecute you.
00:10:25.460 I like that law.
00:10:27.340 Most laws that Alberta needs are already on the books, though.
00:10:30.040 I mentioned the Canadian version of the RICO statute in the U.S., Section 467.1 of our criminal code.
00:10:38.340 Criminal organization, it's called.
00:10:41.500 I mean, you could prosecute an environmental group that acts like a Hell's Angels gang or a mafia family.
00:10:45.760 That's what the law permits.
00:10:48.160 Those are important laws for a number of reasons, and there are other things, too.
00:10:52.540 But the thing about police actions and criminal prosecutions is that, properly, appropriately, in our democracy,
00:10:57.800 there's a high hurdle, because we believe in free speech, right, and peaceful protest, right?
00:11:02.380 So you don't want to just prosecute people for a crime.
00:11:05.060 If it was a thought crime or a peaceful protest, it has to be a real crime, like violence or a riot,
00:11:10.260 which we have had, but we have laws for that.
00:11:14.120 I think our police and criminal prosecutors have actually made the other mistake.
00:11:18.300 They've become a bit of a joke now.
00:11:23.000 You can pretty much commit any crime in full public view if it's against an oil company,
00:11:28.340 and you know the cops in the courts won't touch you.
00:11:30.860 Look at this just the other day.
00:11:32.400 Contempt charges dropped against 14 protesters blocking BC Pipeline Project.
00:11:38.800 Crown and Coastal Gas Link agree not to proceed, but one person charged with assault.
00:11:42.720 Well, swap in protesting an oil pipeline for protesting an abortion clinic,
00:11:47.300 and you know they wouldn't have been let go.
00:11:50.420 The prosecutors let them go.
00:11:52.620 And it looks like the energy company let them go.
00:11:56.940 Cowardice, responding to political pressure, I don't know, but it has to end.
00:12:00.180 But I don't think you need the criminal law for most of this work,
00:12:02.920 because most of the work of environmental extremists in Canada is not violent.
00:12:06.660 It's not even trespass.
00:12:07.880 It's actually the opposite.
00:12:09.060 It's gaming the legal system.
00:12:11.100 It's jamming up the system.
00:12:12.860 Only the cannon fodder, you know, the college dopes do the stunts, 1.00
00:12:18.320 like actually break into private property.
00:12:20.120 They're the ones who pay the price with a criminal record.
00:12:22.960 But the serious fights from Greenpeace and others like him,
00:12:25.900 they're done in the courts.
00:12:27.160 They're done by registered lobbyists.
00:12:28.760 They're done by the propaganda machines.
00:12:30.640 They're not making crimes.
00:12:32.680 The vandals are just the shock troops to give the public the feeling of risk and chaos
00:12:36.340 to the general population to create a simulation
00:12:38.920 that opposition to pipelines is widespread and organic and real,
00:12:43.060 whereas it's obviously the opposite.
00:12:44.520 It's foreign-funded and highly scripted by professional protesters.
00:12:48.580 So the real response is not to use police or prosecutors or even civil lawsuits.
00:12:53.400 It's to cut off the funds and expose who is behind this activism.
00:13:01.020 And how do you do that?
00:13:02.820 Well, the easiest part, but it's the small part,
00:13:04.980 is to pressure oil companies themselves to stop funding their own enemies
00:13:08.060 in a form of green mail, paying bribes to environmental groups
00:13:11.640 so they won't attack them, but maybe they'll attack their competitors instead.
00:13:15.360 Here, for example, there's an annual fundraising shakedown by the Pembina Institute.
00:13:19.540 They call it the UN-GALA.
00:13:21.660 Now, they're an anti-oil lobby group, of course, and you can see them.
00:13:25.320 They're on the Rockefeller Brothers Fund 10-year war on the oil sands.
00:13:30.640 They were part of the 10-year plan.
00:13:33.300 But look who supports them.
00:13:36.020 Scroll down.
00:13:36.420 This is their website.
00:13:38.900 Enbridge, what are you doing there?
00:13:40.800 If you keep scrolling down, you see Shell.
00:13:47.580 Do you see Shell there?
00:13:48.880 You see Suncor, which I think is actually the largest oil sands producer in Canada now.
00:13:55.160 What are they doing there?
00:13:56.580 Enbridge, their Northern Gateway pipeline was killed by Pembina's former president, Marlo Raynaud.
00:14:03.260 He is the chief of staff to Catherine McKenna, the environment minister.
00:14:06.620 Pembina lobbied to kill it, and Pembina, their former boss, killed it.
00:14:12.480 What are they thinking?
00:14:14.560 Why is Enbridge giving the bad guys money?
00:14:16.560 Why are Shell and Suncor paying money to anti-oil lobbyists?
00:14:20.160 I think Jason Kenney has to say to those companies, pick a side, guys.
00:14:25.180 Can't play both sides.
00:14:26.940 And it's not a big ask.
00:14:28.660 He's just asking those publicly traded oil companies to take the side of their own shareholders,
00:14:34.040 to take their own side.
00:14:35.320 And I'm not proposing that he punish them if they choose to sleep with the enemy.
00:14:40.440 He should just say, well, I'm on the other side, so don't come lobbying.
00:14:43.600 Don't come for meetings, because I know you're not on my side, so you stay over there with the NDP.
00:14:49.580 Kenney has to take that approach with CAP, too, the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers.
00:14:54.580 They have been in appeasement mode for four years with Rachel Notley.
00:14:58.540 They have to be shaken out of their stupor.
00:15:00.340 But, of course, the big money isn't coming from the oil companies paying green mail.
00:15:05.400 The big money is being funneled from the U.S., from the Rockefeller Brothers, from the Tides Foundation,
00:15:10.660 from the Hewlett Foundation, from foundations especially in America, but also in Europe, too.
00:15:15.660 Which, funny enough, don't ever go after Saudi oil or Russian oil or Iranian oil or Nigerian oil.
00:15:19.760 You know, just ethical oil in Canada, they don't even go after Venezuelan oil these days.
00:15:25.940 So how do you go against them?
00:15:28.500 It's often money laundered through what's called donor-directed giving.
00:15:32.500 It's a form of tax fraud.
00:15:34.360 It's filing false charitable returns when it's not charitable work at all.
00:15:37.860 We know they did this.
00:15:39.520 We know they broke the law because they don't really even hide it.
00:15:44.740 I mean, for example, to launder money through a Canadian charity registered under the Income Tax Act
00:15:49.940 to give a charitable receipt to that billionaire, for example, you have to do two things.
00:15:54.360 To get that charitable status, number one, you cannot be politically partisan.
00:15:57.660 You can't be for the Tories or the Liberals or the NDP.
00:15:59.960 No partisan politics at all. Zero.
00:16:02.180 Number two, you can be political, like pro or anti-pipeline, but only if it's less than 10% of your activities.
00:16:08.860 And again, it can't be partisan at all, but only 10%.
00:16:14.460 Well, what a joke.
00:16:17.200 All of these so-called eco-charities, they're all about politics.
00:16:20.700 I bet it's 90%.
00:16:23.200 It's really all they do, fighting pipelines, Pembina, Suzuki Foundation,
00:16:27.680 all the lawsuits against pipelines by those legal action funds.
00:16:31.860 That's all political.
00:16:32.860 I mean, how is this not political and partisan by David Suzuki?
00:16:38.860 I was galvanized when I heard Mr. McGinty first say that his plan was to shut down the coal-burning plants.
00:16:45.360 This was a big step off the path that we're on.
00:16:48.700 I remember a few years ago when it seemed like every other day in Toronto was a smog day.
00:16:53.520 So the health impact of shutting down those plants will save Ontario people millions of millions of dollars in the future.
00:17:01.740 And I think that what Mr. McGinty has done is to show real leadership and begin Ontario onto a path that will encourage more and more renewable energy to come in.
00:17:12.440 And I happen to applaud the future that he's aiming us into.
00:17:15.500 So that was a liberal party ad, as you can see, for Dalton McGinty a few years back.
00:17:20.980 That was David Suzuki.
00:17:23.040 It's perfectly legal in Canada to endorse whoever you want.
00:17:27.320 It's perfectly illegal for a registered charity to do so.
00:17:32.260 There is a zero tolerance for partisan activity.
00:17:35.420 And he endorsed McGinty.
00:17:38.200 David Suzuki of the Suzuki Foundation.
00:17:40.480 Now, you might recall a few years back when I ran a little NGO called Ethical Oil, we filed complaints with the CRA against some of these law-breaking charities.
00:17:49.900 And they failed their audits.
00:17:51.560 They're obviously breaking the law.
00:17:52.800 They didn't even hide it because no one ever held them to account.
00:17:55.420 Now, they appealed their audits, which is their right.
00:17:58.320 But they broke the law, and it was a done deal.
00:17:59.920 They were going to lose their charitable status.
00:18:01.540 They're tax cheaters.
00:18:03.160 Greenpeace lost their charitable status twice.
00:18:05.000 Once under the Liberals, once under the Tories.
00:18:07.000 Because they're obviously criminals, not charities.
00:18:09.500 It's not charitable work to break into the Calgary Tower, for example.
00:18:13.520 That's criminal work, not charitable work.
00:18:15.920 Anyways, here's a blast from the past.
00:18:17.580 This is almost seven years ago now.
00:18:19.860 This is an excerpt from a CBC interview when Evan Solomon worked there.
00:18:23.780 The gentleman on the left is a foreign-funded lobbyist named Rick Smith, who at the time was with a registered charity called Environmental Defense.
00:18:30.980 And on the right is Jamie Ellerton, who was with my little ethical oil group.
00:18:35.700 Here, watch this for a minute and a half of this debate.
00:18:37.320 So I certainly think that what's been happening over the last few months in terms of environmental charities specifically and crassly smeared by the federal government, by the oil industry, by the oil industry's friends like Jamie beside me,
00:18:52.500 is just an unprecedented attack on the ability of Canadians to participate in the democratic process.
00:18:59.080 So on the Jamie Ellerton, on the homepage of Ethical Oil website, there's basically a big green rectangle that says Canada Revenue Agency, time to investigate.
00:19:08.420 And when you click on it, it encourages people to basically fill out a form that then goes to the National Revenue Minister, Gail Shea,
00:19:14.560 to report any radical or environmental lobby group masquerading as a charity.
00:19:18.860 And you've targeted Environmental Defense, Rick Smith's group.
00:19:21.040 Do you feel the government's targeting environmental groups fairly?
00:19:24.180 And if so, what's the evidence?
00:19:26.520 No, I think what you see here, Evan, is the government has taken note, like Ethical Oil has,
00:19:30.800 of the increased political and partisan activity of registered charities in violation of the law.
00:19:35.820 So we've wrote letters to the Canada Revenue Agency calling for environmental defense and the Dave Suzuki Foundation to be investigated.
00:19:42.160 Environmental defense, I will have you note, consisted of not only does a ton of political activity,
00:19:47.440 also engaged in a partisan campaign, singling out Peter Kent and Thornhill, making 50,000 phone calls,
00:19:53.860 campaigning door-to-door, and running ads.
00:19:56.140 This is all on Environmental's website back in February of 2011.
00:19:59.940 And we think they're in violation of the law.
00:20:02.040 They are slandering the oil industry.
00:20:03.940 They're not working constructively to help deal with some of the environmental challenges that the oil sands faces.
00:20:08.980 To the contrary, they're just saying stop it at all costs.
00:20:11.380 And we think we're encouraged by the measures announced in the budget that the government is going to put $8 million at the Canada Revenue Agency
00:20:18.700 to beef up their compliance efforts to ensure registered charities are in violation of the law.
00:20:22.580 What about this?
00:20:24.480 So, yeah, that was seven years ago.
00:20:26.740 Stephen Harper hired more auditors at the CRA, nonpartisan auditors, of course, directed by other civil servants.
00:20:33.100 No political involvement, no government involvement, just realizing there's a problem with massive tax cheating and putting more auditors on it.
00:20:40.160 And lo and behold, a bunch of them were about to be banned, like Greenpeace was banned twice.
00:20:45.660 I mean, you heard, Jamie, in the case of environmental defense,
00:20:49.060 they literally boasted online about making 50,000 election phone calls against a conservative.
00:20:54.620 Hey, fill your boots, but don't call that charitable work.
00:20:58.720 It's not illegal to campaign against conservatives,
00:21:01.020 but it is illegal for a Canadian charity that has special tax-exempt status.
00:21:05.480 Sorry, that's just the rule.
00:21:06.640 So a whole whack of these fraudulent charities were about to be decertified.
00:21:12.860 But then one of the lobbyists himself was elected to the PMO.
00:21:18.920 Well, not Trudeau, but Trudeau's Rasputin-like figure, Gerald Butts,
00:21:23.680 this guy who ran one of these anti-oil NGOs, the World Wildlife Fund.
00:21:30.440 You can see the World Wildlife Fund logo on the tar sands campaign plan in the top right there.
00:21:36.880 Gerald Butts ran it.
00:21:38.000 I'm talking about this guy.
00:21:40.560 We think that the oil sands have been expanded too rapidly
00:21:43.160 without a serious plan for environmental remediation in the first place.
00:21:48.240 So that's why we don't think it's up to us to decide whether there should be another route for a pipeline
00:21:54.580 because the real alternative is not an alternative route.
00:21:59.640 It's an alternative economy.
00:22:02.360 So Butts was taking foreign money, laundering it through a charitable tax receipt,
00:22:07.740 and spending it on anti-oil lobbying.
00:22:09.280 And then he got into the PMO, and he hired his buddy, the head of the Pembina Institute.
00:22:17.180 You can see in the bottom right there, also on the tar sands campaign plan,
00:22:20.640 and hired the head of the Sierra Club.
00:22:23.200 You can see them in the bottom right there, which was a Rockefeller front group tube.
00:22:29.000 They all went to work for Justin Trudeau.
00:22:32.900 And they killed the pipelines like they said they would.
00:22:35.520 But they also stopped the audits.
00:22:37.280 Audits. Look at this.
00:22:39.840 Political activity audits of charities suspended by the liberals two years ago.
00:22:46.000 So there were all these tax cheaters in there.
00:22:48.300 Not my opinion, the opinion of the CRA auditors.
00:22:51.160 They were being audited by the auditors, not by politicians.
00:22:54.760 Same auditors who audit your taxes were auditing their taxes.
00:22:58.840 And they were found to be breaking the law, tax cheaters.
00:23:02.960 But they had friends in high places now.
00:23:05.780 Gerald Butts.
00:23:07.280 So the audits were not rescinded.
00:23:09.660 They were legit audits.
00:23:12.560 They had already been appealed, and they had failed their appeal.
00:23:14.380 So they were just, what's the word they used?
00:23:16.600 Suspended.
00:23:17.340 That must be nice, eh?
00:23:18.600 It's just like things are always done by Gerald Butts in this crooked PMO.
00:23:22.320 Favors.
00:23:23.200 Favors for friends.
00:23:24.260 Secret favors.
00:23:25.360 Favors for Bombardier.
00:23:26.840 Favors for SNC-Lavalin.
00:23:28.320 And unlike Jody Wilson-Raybould, who stopped the corruption when it came to SNC-Lavalin, the revenue minister obviously had no compunction about the prime minister's office coming in to rescue his political and personal friends and his former employer from their tax cheat problems.
00:23:45.380 Must be nice, eh?
00:23:46.860 Must be nice, those crooks. 0.64
00:23:49.000 Trudeau and Butts and the no-name CRA minister at the time just let their friends out of tax trouble.
00:23:54.860 And the CDC cheered, of course, because their remaining talent after Jen Gomeshi was thrown out the window, David Suzuki, their last recognizable talent, well, he was in jeopardy, too, wasn't he?
00:24:07.360 They never disclosed that conflict of interest in their reporting on this stuff, though, eh?
00:24:11.300 So what can you do?
00:24:13.420 Well, you heard Jason Kenney.
00:24:16.640 To the Rockefeller Brothers Fund.
00:24:19.300 To the Tides Foundation.
00:24:21.680 To Lead Now.
00:24:23.040 To the David Suzuki Foundation.
00:24:27.380 And to all of the others.
00:24:29.980 Your days of pushing around Albertans with impunity just ended.
00:24:36.820 All right, well, let's see it.
00:24:39.080 I should tell you, Jason Kenney was in Stephen Harper's cabinet back in 2012, and he knows all about this stuff.
00:24:44.740 In fact, Jamie Ellerton, who was on TV there with Ethical Oil, he used to work for Jason Kenney.
00:24:50.220 Kenney knows all this stuff.
00:24:51.340 Harper didn't do too much about it back then. 0.99
00:24:54.300 He hired more auditors, but that moved so slowly.
00:24:57.200 By the time they were about to decertify the tax cheaters, a corrupt man himself was elected prime minister, and he let all his friends off the hook, Lavaline style.
00:25:05.900 So what can Jason Kenney do now?
00:25:08.220 Well, the CRA is a federal organization, but was there fraud on provincial taxes, filings with these groups?
00:25:16.640 I don't know.
00:25:17.520 Was there a crime like money laundering that can be investigated by Alberta agencies, by Alberta police, prosecuted by Alberta's attorney general?
00:25:25.720 Well, I don't know.
00:25:27.260 But I do know that if there were a proper investigation by police, with subpoenas, with search warrants, perhaps with court orders, compelling production of financial documents, where appropriate, follow the law.
00:25:39.520 No witch hunt.
00:25:40.440 Follow the law.
00:25:41.160 But if you had such an investigation, you'd get a lot of information.
00:25:46.420 I don't know enough about the powers that a provincial government has in this regard, but I suspect they're there.
00:25:51.680 In the United States, individual states, well, their attorneys general can do investigations and prosecutions all the time.
00:25:58.800 States don't wait for the feds, especially when the feds are of a different political party. 0.99
00:26:03.580 So I say, we're about to see what Kenney will do.
00:26:07.660 He says he means it.
00:26:09.440 He said it on election night after he won.
00:26:11.720 The appetite amongst his citizens is there.
00:26:14.220 Someone has to do something.
00:26:17.040 All these tax cheats skated because Justin Trudeau and Gerald Butz left their crooked friends off the hook.
00:26:24.780 Well, let's see what Kenney does and his incoming energy minister and his incoming attorney general.
00:26:29.600 If they're creative, I think they can fill in a lot of the gaps left by Harper seven years ago and by Trudeau and Butz.
00:26:37.400 Now, go after the foreign-funded lobbyists.
00:26:40.260 Go after them in the court of public opinion, yes, but go after them in the court of law, too.
00:26:44.860 Hit them where it hurts most, their pocketbook.
00:26:46.540 All they care about is money.
00:26:48.640 Make their secret U.S. donors scared that they'll be outed and revealed.
00:26:52.740 Who knows?
00:26:53.700 Maybe it's not just U.S. donors.
00:26:55.000 Maybe some OPEC countries are financing anti-oil sands activists.
00:26:59.760 It would make sense, wouldn't it?
00:27:01.900 Put the lobbyists on the back foot for once.
00:27:04.920 Smoke them out.
00:27:06.580 Jason Kenney now has the almost unlimited resources of the provincial government to do it.
00:27:11.660 Tell you what.
00:27:13.460 Shut down Notley's absurd solar power and wind power schemes.
00:27:17.800 You got a billion or two kicking around just from that.
00:27:20.160 Put 10% of that into hunting the hunters.
00:27:22.900 Those lobbyists will be too busy protecting themselves and hiding their foreign paymasters 0.59
00:27:29.380 to have time to organize anti-pipeline protests, don't you think?
00:27:34.440 Stay with us for more.
00:27:35.480 I'd also like to thank Special Counsel Robert Mueller for his service and the thoroughness
00:27:55.420 of his investigation, particularly his work exposing the nature of Russia's attempts to
00:28:01.020 interfere in our electoral process.
00:28:02.940 As you know, one of the primary purposes of the Special Counsel's investigation was to
00:28:09.520 determine whether President Trump's campaign or any individual associated with it conspired
00:28:15.740 or coordinated with the Russian government to interfere in the 2016 election.
00:28:23.040 Volume 1 of the Special Counsel's report describes the results of that investigation.
00:28:28.020 As you will see, the Special Counsel's report states that his, quote,
00:28:33.760 investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated
00:28:39.520 with the Russian government in its election interference activities.
00:28:44.260 Well, there you have it, William Barr, the Attorney General of the United States, releasing the extended
00:28:53.660 version of Mueller's investigation into so-called Russian collusion.
00:28:58.500 Several weeks ago, Barr had released his own four-page summary memo.
00:29:04.120 The big headline was no collusion.
00:29:06.520 Well, today he made good on his promise to release much more of the details of it.
00:29:10.560 And joining us now via Skype from Washington, D.C., is our friend Joel Pollack, Senior Editor-at-Large
00:29:16.100 at Breitbart.com.
00:29:17.340 Joel, great to see you again.
00:29:19.080 Help us out.
00:29:20.000 I mean, we went through that four-page memo and what it meant, no collusion, no obstruction,
00:29:25.180 a few weeks ago.
00:29:26.300 Can you explain what was new today other than more of the report was shown?
00:29:31.280 Not much was new at all.
00:29:35.560 There are some details of things the president is alleged to have said about the Mueller investigation,
00:29:42.120 that he wanted to fire Mueller, that Sarah Sanders said something misleading about FBI agents
00:29:50.720 being unhappy under James Comey.
00:29:52.620 Little tidbits here and there.
00:29:53.980 Most of what we are hearing has been heard before, partly because the Mueller team seems
00:30:00.720 to have leaked a lot to the mainstream media.
00:30:03.640 So there's not much that's new here in terms of facts.
00:30:06.740 What is new is the forceful way that William Barr asserted in his presentation of the Mueller
00:30:14.000 report that there was no collusion and no evidence that Trump or any other American colluded with
00:30:19.100 Russia and his explanation of how he and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein came to the
00:30:24.740 conclusion that there was no obstruction of justice.
00:30:27.640 And he used an interesting, perfectly valid argument, but one we hadn't heard before,
00:30:34.420 which was that the context mattered.
00:30:36.640 And the context was that, first of all, President Trump had been very cooperative with the investigation,
00:30:42.280 had not sought privilege, had not sought to see the Mueller report in advance,
00:30:47.040 that made witnesses freely available to the Mueller team.
00:30:50.160 And secondly, that Trump was frustrated with what he saw as efforts to undermine his presidency
00:30:56.280 by the media and by law enforcement.
00:30:58.440 And many of the things he said or did about the special counsel's investigation can be viewed
00:31:03.680 in light of that frustration and not as an attempt to obstruct justice.
00:31:07.140 So that was a context that we hadn't heard spelled out before.
00:31:13.060 The Democrats are furious about that.
00:31:14.960 They say that Barr is providing excuses for Trump to have obstructed justice.
00:31:20.420 So both sides are coming away from that press conference saying different things.
00:31:24.760 The GOP, Republican Party, saying that this is further vindication of Trump.
00:31:29.720 That's certainly how Trump sees it, probably how the rest of the country sees it on the whole.
00:31:33.460 But Democrats in the media are saying, wait, maybe there's meat on this bone after all.
00:31:38.120 They're going to go after Barr.
00:31:39.720 They're going to say that he misrepresented Mueller's investigation.
00:31:43.400 And they're looking at parts of Mueller's report that suggest there were efforts perhaps to do something wrong
00:31:49.180 or that Mueller is even inviting Congress to impeach the president on its own.
00:31:55.200 He suggests in the report, for example, that Congress can investigate obstruction of justice,
00:32:00.560 even if it doesn't meet a criminal standard for prosecution.
00:32:03.180 And that doesn't interfere with the president's powers.
00:32:06.320 The president can still be impeached for obstruction of justice, even if he didn't criminally obstruct justice.
00:32:10.740 So the Democrats are trying to turn this into an opportunity to start impeachment hearings, to continue investigating.
00:32:18.380 It's almost like a perfect scenario for Trump, because on the one hand, he's been exonerated.
00:32:23.260 He's not going to be charged with any crimes.
00:32:25.580 There's no collusion.
00:32:27.180 And the country's top law enforcement officers said there was no evidence of obstruction of justice sufficient to warrant prosecution.
00:32:35.360 At the same time, his political opponents are going to remain obsessed with this Russia collusion conspiracy theory
00:32:43.260 that the rest of the public now is getting tired of.
00:32:46.960 And instead of moving on to issues, perhaps, where Democrats might be stronger,
00:32:51.480 they're going to be obsessed with this endless investigation.
00:32:55.420 And I think it's a great political win for Trump on both counts.
00:32:59.060 No collusion, no obstruction on the one hand.
00:33:01.380 And Democrats continuing to be obsessed on the other.
00:33:05.040 Yeah, well, you know, it seems to me, I mean, I remember some of those comments that Trump made over the last two years
00:33:10.640 when he jokingly said, hey, Russia, if you got Hillary's emails, why don't you release them?
00:33:14.960 I mean, how many tweets did he make attacking Mueller and his partisan witch hunt?
00:33:21.920 It was so obvious to me, just as a layman, and I guess even far away up here in Canada,
00:33:27.540 that that was Trump just being Trump, mouthing off, being partisan, being funny, being dramatic, using Twitter, saying what was on his mind.
00:33:35.060 The idea that a tweet or just being frustrated with what in the end was a baseless, it really was a witch hunt.
00:33:42.120 The idea that that is obstruction is such a stretch.
00:33:46.280 I, it would be, I mean, of course that's what all those things were.
00:33:51.940 But let me ask you this, how has the media, the mainstream media, or what I like to call the media party,
00:33:58.480 how have they responded?
00:34:00.260 There was about one millisecond of not contrition, but recognition that they had overplayed their hand when the four-page memo was released.
00:34:11.640 Are they in any self-reflection mode now, or are they in, oh, good, there's a whiff of a whisper of a rumor of gossip here.
00:34:19.780 We can rev up the machine again.
00:34:22.340 No, there's no self-reflection whatsoever, and there's no sense that they failed in any way.
00:34:30.840 They're all crowing about how their reporting was vindicated.
00:34:33.720 All that means is they got leaks from the Mueller investigation.
00:34:36.980 They reported those leaks, and lo and behold, the same information is in the Mueller report.
00:34:40.660 I mean, they're refusing to see that their narrative has fallen apart.
00:34:44.540 I think they know.
00:34:45.720 If you look at some of the glum faces on CNN, you know that they're disappointed that there weren't any bombshells.
00:34:51.500 There's nothing really to latch on to except a few tidbits here and there to try to make the case that there was any collusion.
00:34:58.500 I think they hoped that Barr had lied about what was in the contents of the report, but why would he do that?
00:35:03.420 I mean, the report was going to come out, and he knew that, and he would never say anything that would be immediately disprovable.
00:35:09.560 But anyway, I think they hoped this would yield something.
00:35:12.340 They set themselves up for disappointment.
00:35:13.640 At the same time, they're really trying to help the Democrats salvage the situation by encouraging the idea that Trump did something that was unethical,
00:35:21.500 or wrong, that his reactions to the investigation were unacceptable, and that Congress should use its power to begin drafting articles of impeachment.
00:35:30.940 The House Democrats would probably pass those articles, and so they're looking for that narrative.
00:35:38.380 They're looking for that direction to be the one that defines our politics.
00:35:41.840 And I think that's good for Trump, because the public does not want to see him impeached if he didn't actually commit a crime.
00:35:46.800 Yeah. Well, I mean, let me clarify there.
00:35:49.640 So you think—I mean, I forget how impeachment works.
00:35:52.500 There's a vote to impeach, and then in the Clinton case, there was a trial, but he was acquitted or something.
00:35:58.440 I'm trying to think of how—like, it's a two-step, right?
00:36:01.160 You can be impeached, but then you're not necessarily removed from office.
00:36:04.500 I don't know the legalities of your American system.
00:36:07.520 What do you think will happen, and what do you think won't happen in terms of impeachment and that?
00:36:13.600 Well, he's not going to be removed from office.
00:36:16.740 You need a two-thirds vote in the Senate to do that.
00:36:19.780 And without any criminal wrongdoing by the president, you're not going to get that.
00:36:24.560 But you could see articles of impeachment drafted and Democrats in the House voting for them.
00:36:29.280 The people driving the agenda in the Democratic Party right now are the radicals.
00:36:33.620 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez renewed her call today for impeachment.
00:36:36.720 And if they are the ones driving this process, you can be sure that there will be a vote on impeachment in the House.
00:36:43.640 And if they do that, and I think they are more likely than not to do it, I think they could lose the House, because I think the public actually doesn't want the president to be impeached.
00:36:52.620 He's not going to be removed.
00:36:53.600 It's purely a political exercise.
00:36:55.540 They want to put an asterisk on his presidency.
00:36:57.780 They want impeachment so that they can regard his presidency as illegitimate, even if he isn't removed from office.
00:37:02.660 But I think this direction is going to make it easier for President Trump to run for re-election, to make the case to the American people that he is actually a victim of a campaign of presidential harassment, as he calls it, or political persecution.
00:37:15.560 And that he has to come into office again a second time with a Republican Congress so he can get things done.
00:37:22.480 And I think that's an easy case to make if Democrats continue doing what they're doing.
00:37:25.800 So, again, in both ways, today is a win for President Trump.
00:37:28.900 Not only was he exonerated from collusion and obstruction a second time over, but the Democrats are now renewing their efforts to make the case that there was collusion and obstruction of justice.
00:37:41.380 They sound like conspiracy theorists who just can't let go.
00:37:45.640 And I wonder how many of them actually believe it, because some of what they're saying is almost certifiably nuts.
00:37:52.020 Yeah.
00:37:52.660 Yeah.
00:37:53.220 I mean, you say something long enough, it becomes a cult-like mantra.
00:37:58.540 I want to ask you one last thing, and I appreciate your time and your advice, Joel.
00:38:02.260 I saw the other day an interview with Nancy Pelosi, I think it was on 60 Minutes, where she was asked about the radicals, the Alexandria Ocasio-Cortezes, and the ones who were really getting all the energy on Twitter.
00:38:17.420 And she was quite dismissive.
00:38:19.140 She said, oh, there's about five of them in the whole Democratic caucus.
00:38:23.640 And she has that Pelosi, you know, that dry, dismissive style that can be withering, frankly.
00:38:32.260 And to see it directed at AOC, as she's called, was a bit of a splash in the face to me of, holy cow, maybe she doesn't like these young pups getting all the ink. 0.98
00:38:43.100 Let me ask you this, does Nancy Pelosi, I mean, I regard her as a hard left-wing San Francisco Democrat myself, but maybe she's, quote, moderate and normal compared to the new radicals.
00:38:54.620 Does she want impeachment? 0.96
00:38:56.480 Has she expressed a view, does she want to put Trump to the articles of impeachment?
00:39:01.000 Pelosi has been rather careful about that.
00:39:07.460 Her deputy, Steny Hoyer, the majority leader, has said he does not want to see impeachment happen.
00:39:13.360 Pelosi has often said, let's see where the facts lead.
00:39:15.860 I think she's keeping herself open because she has to.
00:39:18.380 The moderates and the radicals in her party want to do different things.
00:39:23.280 And the only way she keeps them all on board is if she appears to be agreeing with both of them.
00:39:28.740 I don't think she's going to be able to stop impeachment once it starts.
00:39:31.960 I think she's going to try to appear to be the reasonable moderate leader who is pushing back a little bit against impeachment.
00:39:39.020 And at the end of the day, she'll throw her hands up and say, what could I do?
00:39:41.940 This is where the facts lead.
00:39:43.020 We have to have an investigation.
00:39:45.080 And she'll drag it out as long as she can.
00:39:46.680 But I think she understands that it could be a huge political liability.
00:39:49.500 And so she is going to try to talk about other things like health care. 0.51
00:39:52.860 You saw members of the Democratic leadership doing that immediately after the four-page summary was released three weeks ago.
00:39:59.940 They said, let's pivot to health care. 0.99
00:40:01.520 Let's talk about policy.
00:40:02.840 That failed because the base of the party is so riled up by this that they don't want to let it go.
00:40:08.140 So she's going to try to ride the tiger for a little while longer.
00:40:11.160 I don't think she's going to throw her weight behind impeachment.
00:40:13.100 But she may be required to support it when it finally goes through the process, starting in the Judiciary Committee and eventually reaching the floor.
00:40:20.760 I think she's going to have to allow a vote on it.
00:40:22.860 It's very interesting.
00:40:24.220 Obviously, we're Trump supporters here at The Rebel.
00:40:26.360 But I must say, as a Canadian, I'm jealous of a system that has checks and balances on a powerful leader.
00:40:33.460 In Canada, we have true corruption scandals, so much so that two senior members of Justin Trudeau's cabinet have quit citing corruption of Trudeau himself.
00:40:44.740 Like, it's the most staggering high-level condemnations of Trudeau by his right and left arm.
00:40:50.980 And yet we have no ability to have the kind of independent investigations and inquiries into what's manifestly corrupt and perhaps even criminal activity as testified to by his own cabinet.
00:41:05.100 I've got to say, I'm a little bit jealous of how your democracy works, the checks and balances.
00:41:10.900 And I just say that as a Canadian in a country where the leader, the prime minister, has such total control over really every branch of government.
00:41:20.140 Well, our system works.
00:41:24.700 And even people who are criticizing the president saying, well, he wanted to fire Mueller, but it's just the people around him that stopped him.
00:41:31.040 Well, there are checks and balances even within the executive branch.
00:41:33.760 So the system actually works.
00:41:35.380 People should be happy to see it working.
00:41:36.940 They should be happy there was no collusion with Russia.
00:41:39.640 Instead, Democrats and the media are pretty sad.
00:41:42.100 They didn't get the smoking gun they wanted.
00:41:44.360 They don't have much to chew on.
00:41:46.100 But amazingly, they're still barking up the same tree.
00:41:49.100 So I think Trump is going to have an opportunity to talk about issues, to speak directly to the American people, while Democrats and the media continue to talk to each other in circles.
00:41:58.580 Well, it's great to see you, my friend.
00:41:59.860 Thanks very much for your time today.
00:42:01.440 Thank you.
00:42:02.060 Thank you.
00:42:02.580 All right.
00:42:02.900 There you have it.
00:42:03.280 Joel Pollack, the senior editor-at-large at Breitbart.com.
00:42:06.380 He joins us via Skype from Washington, D.C.
00:42:09.400 Stay with us.
00:42:10.020 More ahead on The Rebel.
00:42:14.360 Hey, welcome back.
00:42:23.040 Today's show was actually recorded yesterday, so we could give our folks a bit of a holiday here at Rebel World headquarters.
00:42:29.320 Therefore, my interview with Joel was recorded yesterday.
00:42:32.780 You may have noticed that.
00:42:34.420 I don't have any letters to read for you today, but I want to say thanks to everyone who supported The Rebel during our own version of a campaign in the Alberta election.
00:42:42.080 And by support, I mean taking a long sign, making Sheila's book a political bestseller, or tuning in on election night.
00:42:47.920 As I said before, we actually had more viewers for much of the night than the government broadcaster itself with all their billions.
00:42:54.920 That felt great, and I hope you enjoyed the show.
00:42:57.560 All right, that's it for us for today.
00:42:59.120 Enjoy the weekend.
00:42:59.800 We'll see you on Monday.
00:43:00.580 Until then, on behalf of all of us here at Rebel World headquarters, to you at home, good night.
00:43:05.020 Keep fighting for freedom.
00:43:05.880 We'll see you on Friday.
00:43:17.860 We'll see you live next time.
00:43:21.080 We'll see you on Sunday.
00:43:21.600 So ÍndLoset.
00:43:23.680 You're welcome.
00:43:24.460 We'll see you in the next week.
00:43:24.760 Oh boy.
00:43:24.820 Have a good day.
00:43:25.580 So as we'll see you on Monday.
00:43:26.800 We'll see you again.
00:43:28.180 Bye.
00:43:28.860 Bye.
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