Rebel News Podcast - Winnipeg's latest crazy joy-rider goes underreported in the rest of Canada： Here's what you missed

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00:01:05.980 A Winnipeg man commandeers a firetruck and takes it on a very dangerous joyride.

00:01:25.720 It should be national news.

00:01:27.460 However, hardly anyone is even talking about it.

00:01:30.600 I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.

00:01:33.220 A Winnipeg man affiliated with the African Mafia street gang stole a firetruck that was attending a call

00:01:57.760 and took it on a quote-unquote joyride through the streets of the city.

00:02:03.500 He was out on bail for other charges.

00:02:05.760 Now this could just be a recidivist intoxicated Yahoo as the charges suggest.

00:02:10.980 But many questions still remain.

00:02:13.400 Then is anti-Semitism on the rise in Eastern universities?

00:02:17.260 Boy, sure looks that way.

00:02:18.540 We are going to get into it because we have a really full show tonight

00:02:23.360 with Winnipeg-based independent journalist Marty Gold from the J.ca

00:02:28.780 in an interview we recorded yesterday afternoon.

00:02:31.720 Joining me now from his home in Winnipeg is my friend Marty Gold from the J.ca.

00:02:52.060 Marty, I guess let's get it out of the way.

00:02:54.300 Let's talk about the Grey Cup because you're in Winnipeg.

00:02:56.500 Well, you know, once every 29 years or so, like clockwork,

00:03:02.660 the football team manages to cobble together a championship.

00:03:06.760 This one was very similar in my mind to the victory in 1990

00:03:10.260 in that the team, I don't want to say had quarterback woes,

00:03:16.660 but it's not like they had an all-Canadian quarterback.

00:03:20.020 It's not like they were being led by a Doug Flutie or a Tracy Hamm

00:03:22.980 or something like that.

00:03:24.260 In 1990, the Bombers, actually in 88, they won with Sean Salisbury,

00:03:28.140 which was another miracle.

00:03:29.560 And in 1990, they won with Tom Burgess,

00:03:31.700 who was a fairly average kind of quarterback

00:03:35.780 but surrounded by a good cast and a strong defense.

00:03:39.060 And there's a lot of similarities between the 1990 victory and this one.

00:03:46.660 The city of Winnipeg, of course, rejoiced.

00:03:51.400 They've suffered immensely.

00:03:53.440 Earlier in the year, the team started to collapse.

00:03:57.860 And there was a lot of people jumping off the bandwagon

00:04:00.800 and calling, never mind for the head coach's head, for O'Shea's head.

00:04:05.080 But they weren't too happy with the offensive

00:04:06.860 or defense coordinators either.

00:04:08.920 And somehow, miraculously, I guess the rest of the league

00:04:11.420 kind of didn't catch on what was going on in Winnipeg.

00:04:14.940 And they tightened things up, and it was a very impressive victory.

00:04:18.060 It was good for the spirit of the city itself.

00:04:23.220 There's a local blogger.

00:04:24.940 I know you don't hear that term too often anymore.

00:04:27.100 No.

00:04:27.840 Who did a statistical analysis

00:04:29.940 and found that there's basically no Great Cup attendance bump

00:04:35.400 the year after a championship.

00:04:37.560 Oh.

00:04:38.000 Like, to the tune of there's one outlier season.

00:04:40.320 I don't remember which team it was, or it might have been connected

00:04:43.900 to moving into a new stadium or something the next season also.

00:04:46.480 You take out that one outlier year, and in 20 years,

00:04:48.660 the average attendance bump has been only about 350 people.

00:04:52.620 Ah.

00:04:53.320 I think that's probably season's tickets I'm thinking of.

00:04:55.660 So that is interesting.

00:04:57.500 Yeah.

00:04:57.640 Um, but, uh, the city definitely loves, uh, every quarterback it has,

00:05:02.820 whether it's Nichols or Strebler, uh, or Zach Kolaros.

00:05:06.600 And they're back in love with Coach O'Shea.

00:05:08.860 Um, and, uh, I think there's a, you know, this puts a little bit of pressure,

00:05:13.800 I think, on the Jets to not underachieve this year.

00:05:16.900 Uh, and just like, uh, the Bombers with its defense, with, uh, uh,

00:05:22.000 Hellebuck and Goal, the, the Jets' strength has not so much been the defense,

00:05:26.100 so the defense would have been hard-pressed and, uh, you know,

00:05:28.800 without buffling a lot of turnover on defense.

00:05:30.500 But they've got a, uh, goalie who's having a, uh, a career year.

00:05:35.260 Um, so Winnipeg sports fans are kind of, uh, hey, the enthusiasm's there.

00:05:40.040 There was, uh, an event I was on, a wrestling event I was on and in, uh,

00:05:44.860 to my, to my, uh, uh, probably eventual demise, uh, last Friday night.

00:05:49.420 And that was a full house, too.

00:05:51.380 And there was a lot of talk about, uh, about Bombers.

00:05:54.340 There's Bomber jerseys, Jets jerseys, as well as the wrestlers' garb there.

00:05:57.660 So, uh, Winnipeg's kind of revived a bit as a sports town, uh,

00:06:00.800 which is good to see, considering the kind of debt the city of Winnipeg

00:06:03.300 and the province are trying to navigate and negotiate.

00:06:05.320 It keeps people's mind off the more serious things, uh,

00:06:08.960 which we aren't even going to delve into today.

00:06:11.480 Um, uh, but the, uh, uh, there's, there's a lot of concern here with, uh,

00:06:17.460 obviously still with downtown crime in particular and a, uh, uh,

00:06:21.040 release of a report the province commissioned, uh,

00:06:24.280 that includes using facial recognition.

00:06:26.080 That was one of the recommendations.

00:06:28.440 Yeah.

00:06:29.100 There's something that, uh, you know, just broke as we taped this.

00:06:32.460 I'll, I'll send you some material.

00:06:34.320 Sure.

00:06:34.460 Uh, I don't know that Winnipeg wants to be renamed the new China.

00:06:38.020 Yeah.

00:06:38.460 No kidding.

00:06:39.460 I'm not so crazy about some of the ideas have come up,

00:06:41.340 but in the meantime, people have been, uh, uh, not just, uh, celebrating,

00:06:45.760 but I can tell you far fewer drunken incidents than after the great cup

00:06:50.280 celebrations of certainly 1984, uh, and, uh, in the past.

00:06:54.780 So, uh, people, I guess are a little more mellow than they used to be when

00:06:58.460 their team wins.

00:06:59.800 Personally, I had no, I had no money on the game or anything,

00:07:02.640 and I'm surprised they got through the playoffs the way they did.

00:07:05.540 Well, and that one guy gets to, that one guy gets to start wearing pants again,

00:07:09.500 which is kind of exciting.

00:07:11.640 Um, I wanted to talk.

00:07:13.020 I'm glad you, I'm glad you mentioned that because I made a remark that, uh, every, every story

00:07:22.400 that every newsroom in Winnipeg, I'm not so worried about the ones outside of the city,

00:07:26.480 but every newsroom ran, ran every kind of story they could about, uh, about, uh, no pants

00:07:33.000 and his wife, which was sort of like a modern day Bickerson's.

00:07:36.280 And I realize that's a reference that's going to over people's heads, but every story that

00:07:41.960 they ran about that was one less story about nevermind news issues.

00:07:46.760 There's lots of sports stories in this town in terms of amateur sports, athletes, coaches,

00:07:52.600 supportive parents, and enough about the guy in his no pants, enough.

00:07:58.420 Now let's, uh, moving on from sports, because this is actually a news and politics show.

00:08:03.560 Um, let's talk about the fire truck attack that happened in Winnipeg.

00:08:10.020 Um, I, it's not really national news, but you, for some reason, I don't understand either.

00:08:19.040 And you were digging down.

00:08:20.780 The guy's got some priors.

00:08:22.200 He's been in trouble before.

00:08:23.320 And it sounds like he's out on bail.

00:08:24.800 That was actually, I, I took a look around and I'll, I'll, we'll do this a little backwards

00:08:29.700 in terms of how we approach it.

00:08:31.560 The, the, um, the accused, I don't think of the right term here.

00:08:36.340 I went looking on the court records very briefly yesterday.

00:08:40.420 Uh, I was, uh, this happened on Friday and, and I was like, I had just gotten back to town

00:08:45.180 from a, uh, uh, three day trip out of town, uh, wrestling and Suris and Brandon and Morton

00:08:50.660 lovely towns all by the way.

00:08:53.160 Uh, and so while this was going on, I was trying to catch up on my own stuff and, and whatever.

00:08:58.720 So I was basically only following it through Twitter and, uh, lo and behold, one of the

00:09:02.820 people that was an eyewitness at the very beginning, uh, maybe four minutes after the

00:09:08.360 fire truck was stolen at around the 1600 block of Henderson highway.

00:09:12.340 Uh, that's counselor, but waddy's award in North Kildonan and Dave Mnook of, um, uh, of, uh,

00:09:18.580 illegal curve, the radio program on TSN 1290.

00:09:22.320 Dave saw this fire truck ram a vehicle.

00:09:26.080 It pulled over to let it pass, got the sirens going and everything.

00:09:28.620 And the fire truck just ran the back of this guy's, I think it was a, a small truck and

00:09:33.260 sent him flying into a hydro pole, which knocked out power for like 800 people in the neighborhood,

00:09:37.520 uh, around, uh, whatever noon or one o'clock last Friday.

00:09:41.740 Um, so I did some looking around.

00:09:43.820 I could only find one thing on, uh, on the, uh, on the court records that are available

00:09:49.040 online through the government of Manitoba of, uh, a garnishment, uh, when the accused by,

00:09:54.900 by, I think it's pronounced BAI Karoma, uh, was a garnish sheet for a little over a thousand

00:10:01.240 dollars when he was employed at motor coach industries in, uh, 2014, that debt was satisfied.

00:10:07.600 Uh, global news, uh, today, uh, having gone down to the courthouse, found out more about

00:10:13.540 this fellow that he was in fact, um, out on bail when the, when he stole the fire truck,

00:10:21.380 allegedly stole the fire truck.

00:10:22.860 I'm pretty sure he stole it when they had a tase in to get him out of the vehicle.

00:10:25.420 Uh, he was out on bail for domestic assault in October.

00:10:30.000 Uh, he has, he has a prior criminal conviction and this was kind of bizarre.

00:10:33.720 I don't have any recollection of this.

00:10:35.780 In 2005, he was acquitted of robbery, but convicted of, uh, I think it was assault.

00:10:43.540 I think it was assault with a weapon, I think.

00:10:46.080 And, uh, uh, possession of stolen goods.

00:10:50.800 So in 2005, this fellow got in a, some kind of deep trouble, seemingly wasn't in any trouble

00:10:57.880 afterwards.

00:11:00.140 Um, garnishment orders can happen.

00:11:02.640 Uh, who knows what that was, uh, uh, what that was, uh, over.

00:11:06.160 I was actually, I think the, the, uh, that was actually, I think a government garnishment

00:11:10.100 come to think of it.

00:11:11.400 So it could be that there was a fine connected with the earlier conviction he hadn't paid.

00:11:14.400 Anyways, uh, this fellow originally is, uh, from, I think Sierra Leone hops in a, in a

00:11:20.560 fire truck.

00:11:21.060 That's attending a medical call.

00:11:22.900 Holy, I didn't realize it was attending a medical call.

00:11:25.680 So it was actually in use.

00:11:27.920 They were using it to save lives.

00:11:30.640 Well, you see now this, another reason why it should be a national story.

00:11:33.900 Yeah.

00:11:34.220 This isn't where it was like parked on a, you know, at the fire station out on the lot

00:11:38.940 while they're jockeying trucks around, uh, the, the crew, nobody stays with the

00:11:44.020 truck.

00:11:44.500 The crew all goes in and there's three high rise buildings that are, you know, mostly

00:11:48.840 senior citizens in that area of, of, of, uh, Henderson highway.

00:11:53.380 And he hops on the, in the fire truck, careens up Henderson highway, which is the main drag

00:12:00.120 on the East side of the, the, the main North South drag like to go towards or out of downtown

00:12:06.300 ends up downtown, uh, tries, you know, I want to be careful here.

00:12:13.080 I don't know that he tried to run people over, but he certainly aimed at people and made them 0.95

00:12:16.320 scatter in central park as he's driving through the downtown area, uh, running red lights being

00:12:22.600 chased by 10 police cars.

00:12:23.940 Now this, um, drive through in central park is also significant because, um, central park

00:12:36.040 is largely, the area now is largely, uh, immigrants, especially African immigrants in that area,

00:12:46.280 uh, ref, you know, refugees, immigrants, and, uh, certainly, uh, uh, this is on the North 0.99

00:12:52.280 side of Portage Avenue, uh, about say six blocks from the legislature.

00:12:57.220 And so you'll have a fair contingent of, uh, people that are, uh, uh, from first nations,

00:13:02.540 uh, uh, uh, descent in that area as well.

00:13:05.860 So, you know, you'd think that the national media would take a look at this because it's

00:13:13.840 one thing to go up and down, go the wrong way on Gary street and, you know, joyriding,

00:13:19.060 but riding up into a park and making people scatter when I can guarantee you the majority

00:13:27.580 of the people that were in the park at the time were not, uh, businessmen and their secretaries

00:13:32.960 out at lunch or something.

00:13:35.360 This is, uh, to me, it was very disturbing.

00:13:39.580 Uh, we'll, we'll circle back to that.

00:13:41.480 He continued from, from his central park excursion, uh, continued up towards the area of the legislature.

00:13:48.920 Uh, he, he actually ended up behind Portage place, the mall, which is near, uh, right.

00:13:53.900 It's basically adjacent to central park, took out some of the bollards, ended up going southbound.

00:13:59.680 Um, I assume up Carlton and then would have made what was actually a turn that a normal

00:14:05.700 vehicle can't make to go down a Cinnaboyan.

00:14:07.760 And the, the cops laid down some spike belts, took out enough tires to stop the vehicle under

00:14:13.100 the Midtown bridge, which has a low clearance to begin with, tying up that route, uh, in

00:14:18.940 and out of downtown adjacent to, uh, to the river until sometime Friday night.

00:14:23.580 Um, uh, among the charges, we'll go through the litany of charges, theft of a motor vehicle,

00:14:30.240 dangerous operation of a conveyance.

00:14:32.580 He was found to be impaired, but the police would not indicate if it was alcohol or drugs,

00:14:37.660 possession of a weapon.

00:14:39.440 They haven't defined what that weapon is or, or the state of what that weapon is.

00:14:43.880 Uh, flight when pursued, fail to stop at an accident times to dry without a valid license.

00:14:48.740 Um, he did all this while out on bail for, uh, allegations of a domestic assault, uh, has

00:14:56.600 the, the prior of an assault, which kind of makes me wonder if he's got a prior conviction

00:15:02.660 for an assault, how with the subsequent domestic assault, he was out on bail.

00:15:09.120 But again, I don't know exactly what the policies are of the crown this year compared to other

00:15:14.080 years.

00:15:15.260 Uh, and this of course led to all sorts of questions among the general population, which

00:15:19.840 have not been echoed in the mainstream media whatsoever.

00:15:23.160 People were asking if he had priors.

00:15:25.000 It took till yesterday to get down to the court to check it out.

00:15:27.680 That I can understand.

00:15:29.000 Was he on a watch list?

00:15:30.880 Uh, was he known to police in the last few years outside of this domestic matter?

00:15:37.160 What, when he came to this country, uh, how was he integrated?

00:15:42.880 What were, what do we know about his experiences, his schooling?

00:15:46.780 Did he have contact at any point with mental health authorities?

00:15:51.780 Uh, and, and those are all valid questions.

00:15:55.340 Yeah.

00:15:55.460 I have a question too.

00:15:56.680 I mean, if he is not a citizen yet, and yet he has these prior charges and a prior conviction,

00:16:05.060 why is he still in the country?

00:16:07.060 I, and I, I don't think that the citizenship question has actually been addressed.

00:16:10.920 Although, uh, the Winnipeg media being not quite as woke, perhaps as other media, um, it did

00:16:18.640 actually, uh, publicize his name, which makes him identifiably African.

00:16:23.560 Yeah.

00:16:23.840 Uh, and, uh, nobody has raised the question that I've seen about whether he's, uh, uh, uh,

00:16:31.420 has citizenship or if he's a landed immigrant or what his status is.

00:16:34.980 What you've mentioned is a very, is, is a good point.

00:16:37.960 Uh, if it turns out that he is here at the, uh, at the, uh, at the leisure of the crown,

00:16:44.260 I guess is how it's put.

00:16:45.880 Um, but in light of the timing of this, uh, around the same time as the London bridge attack,

00:16:51.480 uh, there's the guy in Sweden that who, who had just gotten out of jail after serving five

00:16:57.640 years for shooting somebody in the head who rigs a vehicle to drive through a gymnasium

00:17:02.460 wall in Sweden, where they were playing, like they weren't playing volleyball.

00:17:05.260 It was like, I think they're playing handball or something.

00:17:07.320 So there's people inside there.

00:17:09.300 And that video from inside the gymnasium is absolutely startling and could have been much

00:17:14.480 worse.

00:17:15.020 And that fellow leaves behind a letter that mentions Osama bin Laden or whatever.

00:17:19.520 He gets released after eight hours.

00:17:21.200 So Sweden's a lost cause. 0.87

00:17:22.820 Yeah.

00:17:23.040 But with incidents in Sweden that all the mainstream media don't talk about it, there are definitely

00:17:27.980 people out here in the, in the rest of the world that know that there's, uh, bombings

00:17:32.940 every day, 21 rapes a day, all this violence in Sweden.

00:17:36.660 And people look at this incident.

00:17:38.620 You don't have to go that far to Sweden.

00:17:40.380 We just had a guy convicted in Edmonton of an attack with a truck outside of an Edmonton

00:17:47.000 Eskimos football game.

00:17:48.620 And he was charged with a litany of, uh, offenses, including five counts of attempted murder.

00:17:56.160 He had an ISIS flag in the truck with him.

00:17:58.160 And like this guy, I mean, just the fact that there's no terrorism related charges doesn't

00:18:03.640 mean that there are no terrorism related things happening here because the guy in Edmonton

00:18:07.780 had an ISIS flag with him and he still wasn't charged with terrorism related charges.

00:18:12.940 It was just five counts of murder.

00:18:14.440 Yeah.

00:18:14.640 I have to tell you that, that I look at this case here in Winnipeg that driving into Central

00:18:20.060 Park and making people scatter that in, in my opinion, thank God I'm not a crown attorney.

00:18:25.860 Yeah.

00:18:27.300 I, I don't see how that is an attempted vehicular manslaughter.

00:18:30.340 Yeah.

00:18:30.560 The guy does not have any qualification.

00:18:32.400 Everybody does have a driver's license.

00:18:33.920 That's a, uh, an administrative technicality, perhaps. 0.99

00:18:36.620 He doesn't know how to drive a damn fire truck. 0.99

00:18:39.840 Now, the strangest thing is here's, you got a guy who doesn't know how to drive a fire 1.00

00:18:44.980 truck, driving it at people, going the wrong way on streets.

00:18:48.500 No charges are related to the, the, the, the, um, mayhem, the actual mayhem that he caused

00:18:56.060 human beings.

00:18:57.280 Yeah.

00:18:58.160 It was a headline.

00:18:59.180 And I sent you this, uh, yesterday.

00:19:01.420 There was a headline put up by CTV that is still not, has still not been removed, which

00:19:09.220 has a quote in the headline.

00:19:10.740 I always wanted to do this man charge after high speed chase and stolen fire truck.

00:19:16.920 That quote is nowhere in the story.

00:19:21.020 And I thought I was, had misremembered it when this was being discussed on like Saturday

00:19:25.700 with some people and a girlfriend of mine, like pulled it right.

00:19:29.320 It said, Oh, I saw that.

00:19:30.360 And she pulled it right up on her phone and, and, and took a screenshot and sent it to me.

00:19:34.260 And then our, my publisher, Ron East, I mentioned that to him.

00:19:36.880 He said, no, it's exactly what he said.

00:19:38.560 He went and he checked the story and there was no indication there'd been an edit on the

00:19:42.580 story by CTV.

00:19:43.460 So there's a quote in the headline.

00:19:46.720 I always wanted to do this.

00:19:48.560 No attribution for where it was said, when it was said, who heard it totally weird, but

00:19:57.020 it's on the public record, so to speak.

00:20:00.940 So again, to bring back my point about, uh, Mr. Karoma, if you've always wanted to do that,

00:20:08.300 always wanting to drive a fire truck.

00:20:11.240 Okay.

00:20:11.760 That's one thing always wanted to drive it for about however long that would be.

00:20:16.420 I'm guessing like 12 kilometers up Henderson highway, the wrong way down streets, landing

00:20:21.460 under the Midtown bridge, aiming at people one way or the other.

00:20:25.940 If you've always wanted to do that, uh, I'll put it this way.

00:20:29.340 If you are a citizen, uh, you need a lot of, you need a lot of mental health, uh, assistance.

00:20:36.220 And if you aren't a citizen, bye-bye.

00:20:39.680 Yeah.

00:20:40.100 Good riddance.

00:20:41.300 Um, let's move on to, uh, sorry, go ahead.

00:20:45.140 I just want to go back for one second though.

00:20:46.820 If it's okay with you.

00:20:47.780 Yeah, of course.

00:20:48.440 Why do you think this hasn't been national news?

00:20:51.280 Uh, for the same reason, the guy in Edmonton wasn't charged with terrorism related charges.

00:20:57.440 Um, there's a, I think there's a lot of pressure in Canada, um, to make it seem like we are

00:21:05.380 completely immune to these problems, even as these sorts of problems are happening all

00:21:09.780 around us.

00:21:10.460 We, we can't have, we can't have terrorism.

00:21:13.580 Don't you know that everybody's welcome to Canada?

00:21:16.080 And that's a perfectly fine thing to say.

00:21:17.940 And it's perfectly fine to have open borders and not vet anybody.

00:21:21.580 Um, and, uh, just, you know, let everybody come into the country without making sure that 1.00

00:21:26.800 they are going to integrate and be perfectly safe for the rest of us.

00:21:29.820 Um, there can be no, um, consequences to those sorts of policies because that would

00:21:36.120 hurt our beloved Justin Trudeau.

00:21:37.620 So I think there's a whole narrative out there that this can't be happening.

00:21:42.220 It can't be talked about.

00:21:43.300 It's all mental illness. 0.62

00:21:45.480 Um, and so we just don't even consider that there could be something more sinister at play.

00:21:51.480 Well, I don't think there's a cone of silence yet.

00:21:53.720 I, I, I don't know that there should have been, or would have been an opportunity to reveal,

00:21:57.560 uh, uh, to report on anything that might've been found in his notebooks at home or this or

00:22:02.380 that as, as is an other, uh, we find in other, uh, other cases and other

00:22:07.620 jurisdictions.

00:22:08.400 Uh, but it will be interesting to see what, what does or doesn't come out.

00:22:13.960 Yeah.

00:22:14.440 Uh, I don't have a problem if this guy's, you know, uh, well, I do have a problem because

00:22:20.560 even if he's a citizen, this, uh, bailed on a domestic with a previous assault, you know,

00:22:26.600 I'd like to see what kind of evaluations have been done about how safe or not safe of a character

00:22:31.300 he is.

00:22:31.740 It's really weird that I haven't seen any stories as in people chattering online about

00:22:37.580 this guy that, you know, somebody knows him from, from works.

00:22:40.860 I haven't found any of that yet.

00:22:42.820 Um, so it could be, it's just a, a lone wolf, you know, quiet keeps to himself, uh, character,

00:22:48.980 not even a statement though, from the African association, any of those agencies, no statements

00:22:54.700 from them at all.

00:22:56.220 Yeah.

00:22:56.400 Uh, uh, which I also find it would be nice if they had spoken out something, even to

00:23:05.240 say that he was known in the community and, and people try to help him in the past.

00:23:08.860 Like, it's like, nobody's throwing the guy a light preserver, let alone try to push him

00:23:12.080 under the fire truck yet.

00:23:13.220 It's, it's, it's being handled a very strange way.

00:23:15.860 One thing the police will not discuss or the fire paramedic service is why the, uh, theft

00:23:22.820 prevention device in the fire truck doesn't work.

00:23:26.060 And the, the head of the union said that, uh, well, it was there, but it doesn't work.

00:23:31.100 It didn't work.

00:23:31.740 And a lot of them don't work.

00:23:32.840 And we can't very well put a club on the vehicles cause that'd be ready to go instantly,

00:23:36.340 which is of course a nonsense excuse.

00:23:38.300 Yeah.

00:23:38.860 The amount of time it takes to unlock a club.

00:23:41.040 I don't think that's going to make a big difference, but the notion that a Winnipeg 0.99

00:23:45.200 fire truck can be stolen that easily by some jerk. 0.99

00:23:48.980 And then used as a weapon. 1.00

00:23:51.020 Yep.

00:23:51.720 It's, uh, you know, who else has been silent about this?

00:23:54.580 Our esteemed mayor Bowman.

00:23:56.020 Yeah.

00:23:56.860 Not a piece.

00:23:57.940 I don't think anybody from councils said anything about it actually kind of it's, it, it makes

00:24:04.160 you wonder, it makes you wonder what they're going to say.

00:24:06.640 If other stuff comes up, that makes this more along the lines of what you discussed

00:24:10.620 happened in Edmonton.

00:24:11.920 Well, and that's the thing there.

00:24:13.500 We don't have, there's, the information is clearly out there somewhere.

00:24:18.260 Nobody's really asking. 0.90

00:24:20.040 Um, and people want to know, is this guy just bonkers? 0.94

00:24:22.980 And if he's just bonkers, why is he out on bail?

00:24:25.580 Because that seems somewhat dangerous as, as evidenced in his, uh, little joy ride.

00:24:31.300 And if there's something more sinister or why aren't we even asking if there's something

00:24:35.500 more sinister?

00:24:36.060 Because if there is, I think we all deserve to know.

00:24:38.740 And the questions just aren't being asked.

00:24:40.260 Look, you know, in the old days in Winnipeg, uh, bringing this back to locally, how it's,

00:24:45.280 you know, there was like nothing on the newscasts yesterday about this at all, which, which I

00:24:51.300 just thought there'd be some kind of follow-up and there was not like nothing, which is weird

00:24:56.300 because normally, you know what?

00:24:57.880 There's one story how to, I think the guy who, whose truck got rammed into the hydro

00:25:01.880 pole.

00:25:02.500 I think I saw Kyle something or other.

00:25:04.120 I think I saw something with him, but not the kind of usual follow-up I would have expected

00:25:08.900 for a story of this magnitude.

00:25:10.380 The fact that it's not being paid attention to nationally, um, it's unusual enough that

00:25:15.340 it should be.

00:25:15.820 And that's before we get into the other factors.

00:25:17.480 The notion that, uh, that we can't discuss the possibilities, the Canadians too polite

00:25:24.680 to bring this up.

00:25:25.680 Uh, this actually leads into, into the next topic we're going to discuss, which, which

00:25:30.800 is the, um, the, uh, the acceptance of all peoples as being evidenced on college campuses

00:25:39.320 in Eastern Canada.

00:25:40.100 Yeah, uh, Joe Warmington has a great article as always in the Toronto Sun.

00:25:45.640 He's one of the best in the biz, one of the greatest shoe leather journalists in all of

00:25:49.840 Canadian history.

00:25:51.020 Um, he's got a great article about, uh, York university.

00:25:55.420 They sanctioned a November 20th event that had four former Israeli defense forces reservists

00:26:02.020 invited to speak about their experiences by Heyroot Canada.

00:26:05.780 And of course the BDS folks came out and the students against Israeli apartheid, there's

00:26:14.040 no such thing as Israeli apartheid.

00:26:16.840 So, I mean, it's just crazy.

00:26:19.640 And, you know, I've seen the reservists.

00:26:22.760 I've, I've talked to members of the IDF.

00:26:25.500 Actually, when I was in Israel, I was shocked that the whole country is literally defended

00:26:28.860 by millennials and generation Zed.

00:26:31.100 And you walk away and you're, you walk away with this sense that our young people are not

00:26:35.160 doing enough with their lives that, you know, these kids in Israel, I mean, and they're

00:26:39.840 literally, listen, growing up, growing up very Jewish and Jewish elementary school, Jewish

00:26:46.780 high school, and our teachers were Israeli.

00:26:49.160 So every teacher that we had had served in the IDF in one form or another, whether they

00:26:55.140 were paratroopers and some of them couldn't or wouldn't discuss what they did.

00:26:59.980 And that's the female teachers too. 1.00

00:27:03.340 And, and there were people that, um, you know, not so much in my grade, but in the older grades

00:27:09.180 where they would go in grade 10 and they would go live on a kibbutz and exchange program for

00:27:13.400 a year.

00:27:13.620 And there's some that would go and serve in the IDF.

00:27:18.660 Netanyahu is an example.

00:27:20.260 He was born in Philadelphia.

00:27:21.720 Yeah.

00:27:21.940 All right.

00:27:22.900 And, and, and went to serve my, my, my dad's oldest brother, uncle mayor, uh, he, um, made

00:27:30.620 all the, uh, moved to Israel and, and, and the most, there was a picture of him on my grandparents

00:27:37.120 wall wearing his, uh, uh, and again, I don't know if he was a paratrooper exactly or what

00:27:41.460 he's, what his service was, but wearing his service beret and, and, and, uh, looking like

00:27:46.420 full Israeli, uh, this to us is, was a normal expectation for the young men and women to,

00:27:55.900 to be willing to risk their lives for the survival of our people and the state of Israel.

00:28:05.260 Yep.

00:28:05.780 And I agree with you.

00:28:08.340 It is remarkable that with the generational changes that we've seen in the Western world,

00:28:13.680 that in Israel, knowing that they could be murdered for no reason whatsoever at any moment,

00:28:21.500 that, that dedication to state and to country and to our people, as, as well as to all, when

00:28:29.320 you're in the IDF, you're defending the Druze, the Druze, you're defending the, the, the, the 0.95

00:28:34.220 Arab, the Arab, Israeli Zarebim, you're defending everybody within your borders, the, and especially

00:28:40.720 all the, you know, the, the various Christian sects, uh, in, in Israel.

00:28:45.280 Um, and when you, you're right, when you compare it to what Western societies, uh, uh, youth,

00:28:51.900 what their expectations are, what their level of, of a, of a, what they consider a level of

00:28:56.680 achievement, they, they are very, and 99% of them are very clued out about what sacrifice

00:29:04.740 means, about what, about what, uh, dedication really means.

00:29:08.740 Uh, in, in this case, these reservists, uh, were brought over by Heirut and, um, before,

00:29:15.920 once the event was announced, uh, Heirut Canada having, uh, status as a, a, a group, uh, student

00:29:23.300 group, uh, on the, uh, York University campus, uh, immediately the, uh, the, uh, friends of Israel

00:29:31.600 Israel started to band together, claiming that having soldiers here was a violation of

00:29:37.340 this and that, and they're.

00:29:38.580 Everybody's a soldier in Israel.

00:29:40.760 Yep.

00:29:41.080 Everybody.

00:29:42.520 So to have them here just means you had Israelis here. 0.99

00:29:45.860 Uh, pretty much.

00:29:47.140 Yeah.

00:29:47.420 Uh, uh, one of the, um, one of these organizations, uh, I gotta find the name of it, uh, uh, oh,

00:29:56.780 there it is, uh, couragecoalition.ca, whoever they are, that put out a press release about

00:30:01.400 these IDF soldiers coming in as a, a thinly veiled attempt at recruiting volunteers, the

00:30:06.120 Israeli military, and that that's illegal in Canada.

00:30:08.420 Well, actually it's not illegal to recruit Israeli citizens or citizens of your own country.

00:30:13.320 You know, Switzerland could, could go and recruit people on campuses here.

00:30:16.840 Uh, that's not, it was not a recruitment drive whatsoever.

00:30:20.880 Uh, it's talking in a very human terms, these soldiers, uh, about their experiences in, in

00:30:26.400 not just dealing with, um, with the, the, the alive, with the lively kind of, uh, dangerous

00:30:35.460 situations that will emerge on a day-to-day basis, but managing the tensions, dealing with

00:30:40.280 communities that are taught to hate Jews, nevermind distrust, but to outright hate and 0.98

00:30:44.400 want to murder them. 0.55

00:30:45.760 Uh, you, you don't, I don't know that you really have very many similar examples like 0.91

00:30:50.660 that. Uh, and, and, and it's, it's clearly meant to build bridges among humanity. It's

00:30:59.840 not, they aren't there declaring Israeli sovereignty over, uh, over the Negev or over the, over the,

00:31:07.900 uh, uh, over the Gaza, uh, Gaza Strip or anything like that.

00:31:11.940 Yeah. And instead it's immediately determined by these kinds of radicals that if they're

00:31:18.480 in the IDF, if they're loyal to the state of Israel, therefore they must be representatives

00:31:22.760 of the political machinery. Uh, uh, and they then describe what went on at York as a peaceful,

00:31:29.900 but energetic counter protest organized by York students.

00:31:34.320 I love how these NDP, uh, far left-wing protests are always peaceful.

00:31:40.340 But this one, but the funny thing is that this one wasn't even, um, how should I put this?

00:31:48.140 That the NDP by not coming out, Andrea Horwath, Horwath and, and Jagmeet Singh, by not making

00:31:53.780 statements, uh, uh, decrying this appearance and, uh, these Israeli soldiers, the NDP stayed

00:32:01.000 silent. And so the far left turned on the NDP.

00:32:04.640 Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch, I guess. I mean,

00:32:07.680 couldn't put it, but the NDP wasn't radical enough. The NDP is Gaussian. 1.00

00:32:12.140 Yeah.

00:32:12.380 Did they say anything about this? Now, how peaceful was this? Was this, what happened was there

00:32:16.580 was a gathering through the hallways going towards the hall, uh, very hall where the, uh, speech

00:32:22.620 was taking place. Now, uh, Warmington's column quoted, uh, Gila Yafet, uh, who was a student

00:32:29.600 there. She was going up the stairs and she heard, go back to the ovens, bring back the

00:32:37.200 intifade, kill the Jews. Now let's pick this apart. Go back to the ovens is as not an Israeli, 1.00

00:32:44.040 an anti-Israel political statement. It is an anti-Semitic statement.

00:32:48.200 Yep. Yep. That is as that is the epitome of Jew hate. 1.00

00:32:52.740 That's genocide. That's yeah. Bring back the intifade, uh, which was organized terrorism 0.95

00:33:02.800 targeting, not military, uh, military objectives, but civilian objectives, blowing up pizza places,

00:33:10.500 blowing up kids as they're standing on a club on a street in Israel.

00:33:13.900 Kidnappings. And, and generally targeting identifiable Jews, you know, Jewish males wearing 0.68

00:33:20.000 a kippah or whatever. Yep. I don't see where that's a very peaceful statement. Kill the Jews. 1.00

00:33:26.840 Well, again, what do they say? Peaceful, but energetic counter protest. Yep. Um, those aren't 1.00

00:33:32.380 words of peace to say the least. Leora David was quoted in Warmington's column. She heard the same

00:33:38.220 thing. Go back to the ovens. One, uh, one person started saying it. Uh, now there was,

00:33:43.460 also, uh, you know, the root of this is that this was organized by Heirut Canada. And Lauren Isaacs

00:33:50.600 is a friend of the J.ca. We brought her here to Winnipeg where one way or the other, somebody tried

00:33:56.020 to get the event canceled, no matter what is said by so-called officials. Uh, Lauren is a brilliant

00:34:02.960 speaker. Uh, uh, uh, 20, 23 years old, part-time student that has taken Heirut Canada on her back

00:34:11.180 and, uh, with her eloquence, with her determination, uh, with her presence, uh, has pushed back against

00:34:21.300 these, uh, largely Muslim, but radicalized anti-Semitic, anti-Israel, uh, pro-intifade groups,

00:34:30.780 uh, on not just York University elsewhere. In October, she set up an information booth.

00:34:36.440 She was spit on twice. These, uh, people were, were screaming, uh, forming lines in front of the

00:34:42.560 table, screaming, uh, and all she did was put up a sign saying, I'm a proud Zionist. Ask me why.

00:34:49.140 And she was attacked in October, uh, about this, uh, about doing this. Uh, these, uh, largely,

00:34:56.500 she characterized them as largely Palestinian, uh, protesters that came out and they were itching

00:35:02.760 for another crack at Lauren. It's plainly obvious that her not being meek, her standing up for the

00:35:12.180 historic rights of Jews in their homeland. Yeah. That this upsets, upsets the apple cart of the

00:35:19.020 anti-Semites who continue to propagate this falsehood that Jews are colonizers in Israel.

00:35:28.140 Uh, so for instance, when a housing development is started in Hebron, uh, that this is somehow

00:35:33.580 colonialism, even though Ronnie's own family, the Hamizrahi family were purged from Hebron in 1929.

00:35:41.280 Yeah. As part of the pogroms. Now after this, uh, so October with the Hebron event, which had a lot of 0.82

00:35:52.560 heat, no punches thrown, morphed that anger morphed into what took place at York, where Jews were trying 0.54

00:36:01.440 to get through, uh, to see the event. And probably a few people who weren't Jewish and where they're

00:36:07.240 greeted by this kind of, these kinds of chants and the pushing and the shoving both ways.

00:36:12.640 And after the event, the Jewish establishment, which would be the Canada-Israel Jewish Affairs

00:36:18.400 Committee, which is Sija, uh, otherwise known as the Federation in Toronto will be the UJA.

00:36:24.760 Sija's a little, there's a slight, uh, slight delineation, but not much, largely the same characters.

00:36:30.100 These are big macher groups. They all start making statements. We decry the violence

00:36:34.700 and the hatred of, uh, and students should feel safe. Okay. Except they had nothing to do with the

00:36:42.000 event. And in fact, didn't do anything to support it or help it. And then Hillel Ontario opened their

00:36:47.880 yaps about how concerned they were and, and, uh, how they had, had, uh, worked to, uh, secure. They were

00:36:55.100 there last night, securing the safety of students and, uh, Giri Maman, who I'd not heard of before.

00:37:02.120 Oh, he's good. He's great. He's very good. And I was unaware of him. I think he's connected now

00:37:08.280 in with Ron. He outright called on, uh, on Facebook, outright called Hillel York, a bunch of

00:37:13.980 liars. Uh, the quote was, we're thankful York's administration campus security worked with us,

00:37:19.700 worked with us to ensure the safety of our students in our space. He figures that they may have made a few

00:37:24.980 phone calls before the event about it coming up. But Hillel, and I'm not sure, but I think there

00:37:30.840 might've been another Jewish group, but Hillel Ontario told students that they did not endorse

00:37:35.340 the event. They considered it dangerous. They would create a dangerous atmosphere and advise students

00:37:41.040 not to attend. Now that's a hell of a way to stand up for Israel. That's a great way for Hillel Ontario 0.54

00:37:46.940 or any Jewish group to stand up for, for the people who serve and risk their lives to defend the Jewish

00:37:53.720 state to tell people, don't go see them. Don't go support the event. It's too dangerous. Somebody might get hurt

00:38:00.920 on a college campus in Toronto, not a campus in Beirut, not a campus in Damascus, not a campus in Cairo,

00:38:08.940 a campus in Toronto. So he called Hillel, uh, Ontario out and said that Lauren and himself

00:38:18.460 met with the police at 31 division and met with security to work out the details. Uh, and that

00:38:24.980 the, the, uh, had the assistance of the Jewish defense league. Uh, and there's, it turns out

00:38:30.860 there's two Jewish biker groups in Toronto. I didn't even know they were new. There was one.

00:38:37.660 And so when the pushing and shoving started, I'm sure that the, uh, that the anti-Semites in the crowd,

00:38:49.340 I'm sure they were surprised instead of dealing with, uh, you know, uh, um, uh, you know,

00:38:57.060 the, the, what you typically think of as the skinny yeshiva boys and meek, uh, you know, 0.99

00:39:03.020 they're dealing with some bulls and they weren't used to that. And the bulls pushed back.

00:39:08.820 Uh, I, I'm not positive where the charges have or haven't been late. Cause there was some

00:39:12.760 altercations. I know one guy ended up in the hospital. I seen pictures of that. One guy did

00:39:17.720 get, did get rock. Uh, that should not be happening from either side, by the way. But the fact is that

00:39:23.640 without those bulls there, without those Jewish men there who've thrown punches in their lives, 0.99

00:39:28.540 who are willing to stand up, this could have turned very nasty against the Jews, 0.98

00:39:35.320 against the Israelis that were there. Uh, Hillel had nothing to do with the event and the security

00:39:40.420 plan. And Lauren herself had a comment. They did a lot to sabotage my event. They were unsuccessful.

00:39:47.700 They tend to take credit for the event themselves and publicly made false statements. They failed me

00:39:52.480 and other Jews and Zionists on campus. They deserve to be called out for their divisive, disingenuous, 1.00

00:39:57.620 apologetic, and lying behavior. Uh, now this has actually mobilized the Jewish community because 0.83

00:40:04.680 they saw that siege, uh, that normally is, uh, and Toronto, the UJA has taken community security

00:40:11.320 back in house. Uh, Winnipeg, for instance, they'd rely on, on the local siege of Montreal,

00:40:16.780 I think would be the same. They did, uh, I'm, I'm watching my language here. They did bupkis, 1.00

00:40:23.340 absolutely nothing. But the community has been very motivated by seeing this violence,

00:40:28.900 by seeing this outcry, by hearing these chants. Uh, uh, and the, the other group that needs to be

00:40:35.500 complimented is the Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Center. So, um, one woman posted on Facebook that

00:40:41.940 she had called the hate crime unit to report these statements, viva, viva intifada, et cetera.

00:40:48.600 She wanted to come to the police department and swear an affidavit and was told she was calling

00:40:53.380 the wrong number. Now she calls the number that she thinks is the hate crime unit. Uh,

00:40:59.440 she asked, well, what number is this? They wouldn't answer. They said, well, it shouldn't

00:41:02.840 be on Google. She checks with Google. It's a Toronto police intelligence unit. Um, she had already

00:41:08.840 written York university and, uh, uh, the, uh, the president, Dr. Lenton, uh, uh, and, uh, she had

00:41:17.920 forwarded this person at forward, the letter she sent, uh, president Lenton to the police chief of

00:41:23.200 Toronto, Mark Saunders, who emailed back that, that, uh, it'll be forwarded her, you know, her

00:41:28.820 complaint will be forwarded to a special investigation unit, which she figures is the police

00:41:33.080 intelligent unit. So, um, the Toronto police were already taking it very seriously. They,

00:41:39.320 not everybody involved in this was campus students. There was certainly the JDL Jewish 0.93

00:41:44.580 bikers are out so-called outsiders. Uh, but a lot of the people on the Palestinian side 0.96

00:41:49.420 were also outsiders. Uh, many of whom are familiar to us. Uh, Rhonda Lenton is, uh, hired

00:41:57.220 an outside investigator, uh, potential recommendations on how we handle external individuals or groups

00:42:03.000 who come to campus with the intent of instigating conflict or mischief, uh, a long letter. She,

00:42:08.840 and it's a formal letter. Lots of people in Toronto have gotten this, um, a difficult moment from our

00:42:14.660 community. They want to encourage open, respectful, and free expression, blah, blah, blah. You know,

00:42:18.820 what was missing for, uh, Rhonda Lenton sent to everybody, the term antisemitism. Yeah.

00:42:26.220 Doesn't want to even mention that this is what went on in response to this, the York Federation of

00:42:31.860 Students, seeing that the administration wasn't going to be on their side, passed a motion, uh,

00:42:38.260 to oppose, they will actively oppose, quote, representatives of the Israeli state appearing

00:42:43.580 on campus. Uh, but to make it seem like it's not just the Jews, uh, they broadened their motion to 0.52

00:42:50.640 any imperialist power invited to campus to gather support for war and occupation in Palestine and

00:42:56.300 elsewhere. Wow. Hmm. Are they going to protest if a speaker from China or Pakistan, throw a few 0.99

00:43:04.920 countries in here, Sheila, go ahead. Iran, you know, I wonder if they've passed the same sort of

00:43:11.960 motions to, uh, oppose representatives of the Iranian state. I bet no, no, because the Iranian state is,

00:43:19.500 is no doubt, uh, uh, making sure that monies flow to these, these kinds of radicalized hate group.

00:43:25.580 Yep. Uh, uh, you know, there was a post that was put, uh, uh, another post was put on, on Facebook

00:43:33.100 and it was by an American guy. Uh, I think it's more so about American campuses, but we now see that

00:43:40.100 in Eastern Canada, this is a concern for, for Jewish families. Did you send your child to college to be

00:43:47.900 attacked for being Jewish? Did you send them to brainwash to hate Israel to be bullied, bullied 0.99

00:43:52.700 and intimidated by pro Palestinian hate groups to feel like a Jew in 1930s Germany and telling people

00:43:58.720 to complain to these college administrators now and, and to be loud about it. And honestly,

00:44:03.840 the Jewish establishment, whether it's a Toronto, uh, we'll talk about McGill briefly. Uh, I'm sure

00:44:09.580 something's going to happen in Winnipeg in the new year because, uh, it's time, you know, it's sooner or

00:44:15.040 later, some things that are going to happen here as well. And I don't know, not that we

00:44:20.100 have a Jewish biker group that I know of here, but I don't know how prepared the Israelis in 1.00

00:44:27.200 Winnipeg will be willing to show up in numbers, but whether the Jewish community leadership

00:44:33.240 is going to put out a call to the general community, to people like myself that are of Ashkenazi descent,

00:44:38.520 for instance, to show up in numbers, to be prepared to push back. I don't know if they've got balls 0.98

00:44:46.500 enough to recognize that our people in this country are, are facing outright hate. This isn't the odd 0.95

00:44:56.240 wing nut spray painting a swastika on a sidewalk outside a synagogue at McGill. Yep. Jordan Wright

00:45:03.300 is a, uh, second year science student that is a representative on the, uh, legislative council.

00:45:11.100 Uh, she, it was learned that she was going to go on a trip to Israel, a program called face to face

00:45:17.660 sponsored by Hillel Canada. And she proceeded to be targeted by the, uh, students union there 0.83

00:45:25.980 interrogated about her personal life harassed, told if she goes, she's going to be, if she,

00:45:31.660 she should resign and she doesn't resign, she's going to be impeached. There's a non-Jewish shoot 1.00

00:45:36.700 actually, I think two going on the same trip that have not been threatened with any consequences

00:45:41.620 whatsoever. The, the way they play this game as well, you know, by going to Israel, you're making 0.98

00:45:47.660 a political statement in our organization, you know, your representation of students must be

00:45:51.940 non-political, but there's a member of the executive with a pro BDS sticker on her water

00:45:55.800 bottle, but that's not considered political. And I feel really sorry for Jordan Wright. I don't know

00:46:02.020 from a, a hole on the ground that a second year university student. So she's, what do you figure 0.88

00:46:07.160 Sheila? 21, maybe, maybe, maybe 21 and a science student. And here's a, uh, a student's union that

00:46:15.960 passed the international Holocaust remembrance Alliance definition of antisemitism, which includes

00:46:22.140 berating Jews for policies of the government of Israel. And here they are doing the same thing 0.88

00:46:29.860 that they recognize as antisemitism to one of their own, uh, uh, legislative members. Uh, she wouldn't

00:46:37.860 resign. And then, uh, I guess it was a Monday this week, uh, the university itself, um, uh, university

00:46:45.960 official, uh, the deputy provost Fabrice Lebeau put out a statement that this motion, this attempt by

00:46:53.860 the student union, contrary to the university's values of inclusion, uh, that, that this is, um,

00:47:02.300 and McGill has, has had, and New York too, has had antisemitic incidents going back well over 10 years.

00:47:09.080 This is, uh, this is, uh, these, these, this is an example of campuses that are hotbeds of radicalized

00:47:14.300 leftism that, that finds allies, uh, anywhere they can on the political spectrum. As long as in the end

00:47:22.880 Jews are bad, Israel should be dismantled, colonialism, capitalism, all the usual things for a science 1.00

00:47:29.660 student to want to take a trip to Israel and then to be bullied in this manner, uh, uh, in Quebec, 0.99

00:47:39.080 in Quebec, mind you, where you think that a Quebec government official, or God forbid somebody from

00:47:46.340 the federal government, what with its seat of power coming largely out of Montreal and Toronto.

00:47:52.420 I have not seen, have you? No. One comment from one member of parliament. No. Liberal,

00:47:58.300 liberal, now maybe somebody did, but I haven't seen it. Certainly not from a liberal member because it

00:48:02.860 would have brought to my attention. None of them. They all run in cowardice. If it's going to take

00:48:08.340 some Jew, some Jew, Israeli student or, or, um, organization worker getting the beat down and

00:48:18.920 being put in an ICU, uh, before one of these political officials speaks up, it will be a, a, um,

00:48:25.860 an indictment, uh, against our political leadership. This kind of hatred, these kinds of remote,

00:48:34.180 how, how, how do you have police officers at York university hear these, hear these calls go back

00:48:44.000 in the ovens, kill the Jews and not immediately call for backups and start collaring the people. 0.99

00:48:52.820 Oh, well, get ahold of us and we'll take your statements. Yeah. So Jews increasingly in North 1.00

00:48:58.420 America, this is what young Jews are, are, are, are being subjected to. And they, they are not,

00:49:08.500 I mean, Hey, Root, certainly Lauren Isaacs tries to equipment with the arguments to counter these 0.99

00:49:14.740 kinds of falsehoods, uh, uh, that, that are raised about colonialism and, and occupate. Gaza's occupied.

00:49:22.260 There hasn't been a Jew in Gaza since 2005, but Gaza's under occupation. Um, didn't they take the

00:49:29.580 bodies of Jewish people when they withdrew from Gaza? I think they did. They even took their dead 0.97

00:49:37.280 when they left. They did. Yeah, of course. So, so what we see happening in Canada and this, and you

00:49:44.320 know, I, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention this at York university was like the day or two days after

00:49:49.840 the Trudeau government, uh, uh, reverse this field and voted with such staunch human rights,

00:49:56.660 uh, uh, represent and natives that represent, uh, uh, uh, uh, nationalities that represent human

00:50:03.140 rights like Korea, like North Korea in emotion condemning Israel again, over the same usual 0.98

00:50:10.600 colonial bullshit. So that from the Trudeau government, as he panders for a seat on the security 0.96

00:50:18.120 council, this was a signal that emboldened these radicals, these Jew haters. And these are,

00:50:25.940 don't, you know, people out there that think I'm focusing too much on that. Believe me,

00:50:29.440 they hate you too. They hate democracy. They hate Western, uh, Judeo-Christian values. They hate

00:50:37.720 the traditions that, that, that form the foundation of our society. It was very convenient. Finally,

00:50:44.380 that Greta has gone and admitted that it's, that it's all about the patriarchy and colonialism,

00:50:49.080 not actually saving the planet. And you really, you out there that, that, that, that, you know,

00:50:56.400 watch the rebel and consume other media. It's worth your while to pick up the phone, call your MP,

00:51:03.120 whoever it may be. And even if they're in one of these NDP, be pro BDS, no good Nixon Montreal

00:51:10.340 and give them an earful. Yeah. Because, yeah, because you don't ever see Jews or Israelis in 1.00

00:51:18.820 Canada. Now I'm not saying everybody is pure of thought. That's obviously would be ridiculous,

00:51:24.840 but there is no groundswell among the Zionist community. Kill all the Palestinians, throw them 1.00

00:51:33.120 off, uh, uh, throw them out of their land, uh, cut off their water, poison their wells. 1.00

00:51:40.640 There's no groundswell of hatred among Zionists towards any people in the Middle East. Uh, although

00:51:48.320 there's certainly a great deal of distress for, you know, the, the agitators like, you know, Iran 0.70

00:51:52.880 and Syria and like that. But in terms of people in the Holy Land itself, this is a, this hatred,

00:51:57.840 these threats are a one way street. Yeah. And, and, um, campuses are the battleground. We've seen it

00:52:07.380 in the States. We've seen it in England and Canada, uh, cannot afford to have generations of children,

00:52:15.840 young adults lost to this kind of rhetoric in this kind of internecine warfare when they're there to

00:52:22.700 learn and to expand their minds. Uh, there's now a lot of talk about people withdrawing their donations

00:52:29.260 to York university as well. They should, there are many facilities. They're named after, uh,

00:52:34.000 Jewish philanthropists. Uh, and, and this for the Toronto community, which is the biggest one, uh,

00:52:39.900 biggest, uh, congregation of Jews in, uh, in Canada, somewhere around 180 or 200,000. This might've

00:52:47.000 served as a wake up call, uh, but not enough of them have thanked Lauren Isaacs for taking the initiative

00:52:51.740 to do this. Yeah. You know what? Uh, it's a really great point that the young, uh, Israelis and the

00:52:59.920 young Jewish people on Canada's campus, they cannot look to our politicians to save them. Um, because 1.00

00:53:06.640 politicians are not speaking out about this. They are going to have to, they're cowards and these 0.99

00:53:11.580 young people are going to have to save themselves. And it looks like with people like Lauren, they just

00:53:16.960 might. Now we have, I just want to mention of all things, Canadian parliamentarians. I'm going to

00:53:22.360 suggest something. I normally, normally I don't say do it the way they do it. You know, in European 0.94

00:53:26.480 countries, then you end up with bike lanes and stupid places. And I don't really think Europe should 0.99

00:53:30.320 be copied in terms of lifestyle. A lot of things. The French parliament has, has decided that anti-Zionism

00:53:37.400 is anti-Semitism. Yeah. Stephen Harper thought that too. Yeah. It's good enough for France. It's 1.00

00:53:43.300 crawling with, with, with, uh, with, um, uh, this kind of radical, uh, Muslim, uh, uh, the radical 0.97

00:53:52.180 Imams and, and, and, and this attempt to destroy the way of life. We see it in France. We see it in 1.00

00:53:57.960 Sweden. France recognizes that you can't separate the hatred for the, the Jewish people with the, uh,

00:54:05.540 the way that, uh, people want to dismantle the state of Israel, Canadian politicians of all,

00:54:11.000 of all things I'm saying, why don't you be a little more like France open your mouths and stand up for

00:54:17.080 Jews? Yes. We're plenty good enough to get, get our votes. We're plenty good enough to get our

00:54:22.300 political donations. We're plenty good enough to like, you know, come to the human rights museum

00:54:26.960 that was the Asper family, uh, uh, uh, quarterback. We're plenty good for good enough for that.

00:54:32.720 But when our children, our grandchildren are being threatened on campuses and you stay silent,

00:54:38.140 you can do a lot better. All of you. On that note, let's move to something a little more fun.

00:54:46.780 You have a story. Um, it's funny because I probably do more stories about coyotes than

00:54:53.020 anybody else in the media. Um, I, I, ironically enough. Um, but you have a, a story that, uh,

00:55:02.000 links, I guess your family to a coyote that was hit on the road.

00:55:07.000 So I'm finding my own business and all of a sudden my sister creates a Facebook group with me and her

00:55:12.500 daughters. Uh, so there, we don't have a family gossip group or anything like that. Uh, it may be,

00:55:19.800 you know, if a Hanukkah party's coming up. So I knew something was up. My sister puts in a link

00:55:25.280 to a story about a man hits coyote. Uh, and, uh, as the story went, uh, uh, a man, the first story

00:55:35.200 didn't identify who a Winnipeg man driving down the highway on his way to work and hit something,

00:55:41.280 thought it was a dog, picked it up and put it in his vehicle. He's going to work, uh, for an 11 PM

00:55:47.320 shift, 11 to seven, an overnight shift puts in his vehicle and goes into work and they start calling,

00:55:52.800 you know, the RCMP or conservation officers. Nobody can come till the morning. He thought it

00:55:57.440 was a husky or a big, or some kind of big dog. And it turns out it was a coyote. And this was not

00:56:04.180 just any Winnipeg man. It was my uncle. And he's only about 10 years older than me. So this is, uh,

00:56:09.680 very much like my older brother, the way I was raised. He's only like, uh, I'm pretty sure he's

00:56:15.360 only 10 years older than me. So I was like, I don't remember, but I was at his bar mitzvah.

00:56:19.720 And here's my uncle Ellie on the news. I'm sure it's the first time his name has been in a newspaper

00:56:25.800 since like his birth announcement. He's, he's a, a pious Jew, a science. He was in his day,

00:56:34.380 a science nerd, went to the U of W to take sciences. A, and, and I'm amazed even without people knowing

00:56:41.740 who he, you know, that knowing that he was my uncle, my dad's youngest brother and still like,

00:56:47.380 still lives in my grandparents' house. He'd never, he'd never left the homestead. So to speak half a

00:56:52.980 block from where the synagogue was. I was amazed at the people I know that, that had such wonderful

00:57:02.440 things to say about him without knowing it was my relative without knowing it was like an older

00:57:07.460 brother to me for saving this animal and for caring, because his rationale was that this animal

00:57:13.900 injured on the highway, knocked out, uh, was going to be attacked by predators. And that's why he's,

00:57:21.580 why he saved a Wiley coyote. And he went for a visit to the, uh, uh, the, uh, I don't remember what

00:57:29.800 it was called exactly the, uh, wilderness, uh, center where it's, uh, been lodged, uh, for recovery.

00:57:35.860 Yeah. The way, the way I want to give him a plug wildlife Haven rehabilitation center.

00:57:40.020 And so uncle Ali went out there and looks through the, through the, and, uh, it was funny that there

00:57:45.880 are a couple of people, you know, gradually yesterday came up to me. Um, you could tell from

00:57:50.900 the last name, which is the real family last name. So everybody, we're all related. Anybody with

00:57:55.020 that last name is related. Uh, he's really like the least famous of all of us, never one that would

00:58:01.320 be prone to public speaking or any misadventures like that. And it would never appear at city hall

00:58:06.780 or anything, any of the work that I've done. But one thing that really cracked me up was, um,

00:58:12.360 uh, a couple of people remarked on watching his, his interview. I think it was Samantha Samson on CBC

00:58:18.420 that, uh, besides that you could see a family resemblance in the face, but once he started

00:58:25.840 talking and the use of language and, uh, you could see that he was, you could see the two of us are

00:58:32.220 related just from the cadence, from the kinds of language that he used, uh, the way he described

00:58:38.480 the incident in the animal as showing off the damage, very minimal damage, the front end of the

00:58:42.660 car, which really surprised me. Uh, and, uh, I, I never thought I'd see the day where my religious,

00:58:49.940 uh, my religious uncle, who's like the vice president of the synagogue would end up on,

00:58:54.600 on every news channel. Um, but if he was going to end up in the news doing so by being a good,

00:59:01.960 uh, a good Samaritan, I mean, what we, what we call it when you do something, it's in this realm,

00:59:07.180 in the Jewish faith, it's a mitzvah. And for him to get the kind of recognition that he's gotten,

00:59:13.600 uh, it was, uh, people that don't know my uncle Ellie have no idea how many, nevermind animals

00:59:22.220 he's helped to the point where it's a little ridiculous with cats and dogs, but how many

00:59:26.700 people he's helped and never asked for credit, never taken credit for it. Uh, uh, and, and really

00:59:34.600 what my uncle reflects is the values taught to him by my grandparents, by his parents, by my Zeta and

00:59:40.700 my Baba. And, uh, it's, it was really something to see people identify the similar characteristics,

00:59:47.780 uh, through this incident that, uh, that runs in my family and that I try to reflect sometimes,

00:59:53.780 uh, to my journalism in terms of the kinds of stories I cover and sticking up for people.

00:59:59.800 I don't really do a lot of animal stories, honestly, but I guess I could just sort of leave

01:00:03.880 that up for my uncle from now on to fill in the gap. Yeah. I think he's got it covered. Um, Marty,

01:00:08.120 where can people find the work that you do? Um, both your secular work and, um, the work you do,

01:00:16.520 uh, covering issues of the Jewish community. And more importantly, I guess, how can they support

01:00:20.640 your work to keep you going? Uh, the J.ca is, uh, one location. Uh, and, uh, I don't know for sure

01:00:29.940 what we're going to have up when this airs, but, uh, Ron, uh, Ron East, my publisher's on the road

01:00:34.520 and he was itching to write an, uh, a publisher's, uh, statement with regards to the incidents in

01:00:40.540 York and McGill. Uh, and I think that we'll probably have a, something like that up, uh,

01:00:45.600 for me personally, uh, the great Canadian talk show, the acronym TGCTS.com. Um, I've been a little

01:00:52.080 out of the loop news wise lately in terms of publishing stuff. Uh, I've been trying to get

01:00:56.140 some, uh, some private work off, uh, off the table, but I, I am inclined to produce a story

01:01:02.400 that asks the following question. Uh, Manitoba, the Manitoba government loves putting up press

01:01:06.520 releases about finding this business and that business for industrial accidents. You know,

01:01:11.220 a guy leaned in to pull something out of a machine and his hand got sucked in and they

01:01:15.200 find the company $40,000. And, uh, these kinds of, again, these are mostly industrial accidents,

01:01:21.360 workplace safety accidents. The board of Manitoba liquor and lotteries, uh, has known for over two

01:01:27.740 years about this uptick in robberies. Uh, it culminated with a girl getting standing behind

01:01:32.600 the counter while a, uh, uh, uh, there was more than one guy. It wasn't a mobbing in terms of five

01:01:37.400 guys, but there was a few guys there. I think this one involved three people standing behind the

01:01:41.940 counter as she was instructed. The security, the token security guard they have had been threatened.

01:01:48.240 He ran into a locked room. She's standing behind the counter, not moving. I don't know if she was

01:01:53.300 told to open the door or not. And this girl took a sucker punch right to the face, not cool, 1.00

01:02:00.440 taken to the hospital. I do not understand how liquor and lotteries officials, knowing that this

01:02:08.180 danger was increasing week after week, month after month with, with these mobbings. And these are

01:02:14.900 people that are, are sometimes they're disguised. Sometimes they aren't. I don't understand how

01:02:19.400 they have not been charged under the workplace safety act. And I don't accept the excuse that,

01:02:25.140 well, they were appointed by the government. That makes them special. If the liquor stores here

01:02:30.140 were private enterprise, I guarantee you the pollister government would putting out a press release

01:02:35.200 about the fines and the, the, the sanctions that would be issued against private liquor stores in

01:02:41.460 Alberta. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. They would go, they would go nuts on private enterprise, but there's

01:02:48.760 been no consequences. And look, some of these people are nice people. Don't get me wrong. I'm

01:02:53.920 pretty sure that the board, both of the, there's liquor and lotteries. And then there's the bigger

01:02:58.120 board that involves the cannabis too. Both boards have former conservative MLAs on them that last time

01:03:04.000 I looked that I know. And there are reasonable people. That doesn't mean that, that the individuals on

01:03:09.160 the board should not be held to account for not clamping down a lot sooner and not instituting

01:03:15.600 better safety protocols. And instead some girls got it. And I'll tell you who else has fallen down 1.00

01:03:20.560 on the job. Honestly, the MGU, the government employees union that, uh, they're normally they're

01:03:26.180 a lot more aggressive and they can't make enough excuses for the government's failure to, to, to do

01:03:32.240 something to stave off these wave of robberies that have endangered, not only the staff, but the

01:03:36.760 customers as well. And for in the, in that instance, the liquor mart was inside a mall.

01:03:42.040 And so that endangers customers too. And, uh, uh, uh, people are concerned about identifying the

01:03:50.680 perps and all of this is driven by poverty. No, it's driven by criminal behavior. And anybody who

01:03:55.520 says, Oh, people are stealing, you know, 60 pounders of vodka because they're poor. Well, maybe they're

01:04:01.040 poor to poor to buy a 60 pounder of vodka when they're stealing five or six of them. This isn't

01:04:06.380 poverty. It's criminal behavior and the lack of action by the employer to protect their employees

01:04:13.400 adequately. In my opinion, should be subject to the same kinds of investigations and sanctions

01:04:20.300 as if it was a smelter and flint fly. Well, I think I'll probably be running something along those

01:04:25.820 lines. I might even name all the board members. Actually, nobody talks about that. I might, I might

01:04:31.000 even run that, see if I can get a current list, put their names up. And then when people bump into

01:04:35.120 them at the local liquor market, they go, Hey, how do you feel about that girl got punched in the 0.87

01:04:38.760 face? What if that was your daughter? I was saying for a long time, Sheila, the board should go and

01:04:44.160 pull shifts in these stores to see what it's like. You know, that's a great point. Name and shame

01:04:48.560 these people. I mean, they, they really they're, they're in charge, you know, that that's who's the

01:04:54.320 boss here. That's who's accountable. Um, and like you said, if this were a private industry,

01:04:59.260 there'd be all kinds of trouble and you'd be hearing it from the government.

01:05:04.020 If a licensed premises and they get their license from the same liquor board,

01:05:08.680 the licensed premises kept reporting. We're having booze stolen from behind the bar. People just walk

01:05:14.260 by in the bar, stealing the bottles and walking out. They would have punched from the bars I've

01:05:19.700 worked in and managed. They would have punched our ticket. They would have closed us down.

01:05:23.420 Yeah. Period. Period. End of story. The only people can get away with having their liquor stolen

01:05:29.300 is the goddamn government. Marty, we're coming up on an hour here. Um, I got to thank you for 0.99

01:05:35.960 coming on the show. You're always so generous with your time. Um, we love your passion for the Jewish

01:05:41.620 people, for the news, but also for the little guy. Um, and I feel like that's the perfect encapsulation

01:05:48.880 of what Manitoba and specifically Winnipeg needs right now. Um, I really appreciate,

01:05:53.840 I appreciate your kind words and I appreciate, you know, I hear from the audience on Twitter,

01:05:57.260 people retweet the, the, you know, clips that have been put up. All of it means a lot to me. Uh, I,

01:06:03.880 uh, I do my best in, in challenging circumstance in Winnipeg. There's not the kind of support you'd

01:06:09.920 think for independent media voices here because it's such ultimately it's a small community.

01:06:14.580 Everybody's like naming names. Media won't do it. I'm the kind of guy that does it.

01:06:18.180 And one of the reasons that I do it is because I know that there's a strong contingent out there,

01:06:23.000 not just in Winnipeg and Manitoba, but across the country that wants to see things done right.

01:06:27.700 That wants to see accountability and transparency, especially out of government. And the wants the

01:06:32.600 certain kinds of truths, you know, not whispered, but told a little louder. And that's what I try to

01:06:38.160 do. And, and, uh, uh, hopefully I'll be on with you. If it's not before Hanukkah, it's after Hanukkah,

01:06:43.120 I'm going to have to try to dig up a menorah or something that a little differently. And I'll pull

01:06:47.680 Jesse Ventura and Jimmy Hart and put a menorah up. And I appreciate, I appreciate you having me on

01:06:52.540 and give me a chance to talk about what's going on here in the Keystone province.

01:06:57.500 Yeah. You know, Manitoba matters. You know, there are things going on in Saskatchewan. There

01:07:01.400 are things going on in Alberta. Toronto thinks you're the center of the universe. Uh, sounds like,

01:07:06.120 uh, Montreal is a hotbed for antisemitism right now, but Winnipeg matters and you shouldn't be

01:07:11.880 treated like flyover country. So I'm happy to have you on and give you all the time you need.

01:07:15.220 Thanks so much. You got it, Marty. We'll talk again.

01:07:28.540 Imagine spending thousands of dollars every year to send your child to what you think

01:07:33.000 is a good Canadian school so that they can get a high value education only to have your child

01:07:39.240 discriminated against and lose opportunities because they believe the state of Israel simply

01:07:45.240 has the right to exist. That's the state of many Canadian campuses and it is spreading. And it's

01:07:52.320 time we all started paying attention to the problem. Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.

01:07:57.240 Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here in the same time,

01:08:02.100 in the same place next week. And as always,

01:08:04.460 don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.

Rebel News Podcast - December 05, 2019

Winnipeg's latest crazy joy-rider goes underreported in the rest of Canada： Here's what you missed

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