Winnipeg's latest crazy joy-rider goes underreported in the rest of Canada： Here's what you missed
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A Winnipeg man commandeers a firetruck and takes it on a very dangerous joyride. It should be national news. However, hardly anyone is even talking about it. A man affiliated with the "African Mafia" stole a fire truck that was attending a 911 call and took it for a joyride through the streets of the city.
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A Winnipeg man commandeers a firetruck and takes it on a very dangerous joyride.
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However, hardly anyone is even talking about it.
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I'm Sheila Gunn-Reed and you're watching The Gunn Show.
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A Winnipeg man affiliated with the African Mafia street gang stole a firetruck that was attending a call
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and took it on a quote-unquote joyride through the streets of the city.
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Now this could just be a recidivist intoxicated Yahoo as the charges suggest.
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Then is anti-Semitism on the rise in Eastern universities?
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We are going to get into it because we have a really full show tonight
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with Winnipeg-based independent journalist Marty Gold from the J.ca
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in an interview we recorded yesterday afternoon.
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Joining me now from his home in Winnipeg is my friend Marty Gold from the J.ca.
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Let's talk about the Grey Cup because you're in Winnipeg.
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Well, you know, once every 29 years or so, like clockwork,
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the football team manages to cobble together a championship.
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This one was very similar in my mind to the victory in 1990
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in that the team, I don't want to say had quarterback woes,
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but it's not like they had an all-Canadian quarterback.
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It's not like they were being led by a Doug Flutie or a Tracy Hamm
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In 1990, the Bombers, actually in 88, they won with Sean Salisbury,
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but surrounded by a good cast and a strong defense.
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And there's a lot of similarities between the 1990 victory and this one.
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Earlier in the year, the team started to collapse.
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And there was a lot of people jumping off the bandwagon
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and calling, never mind for the head coach's head, for O'Shea's head.
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And somehow, miraculously, I guess the rest of the league
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kind of didn't catch on what was going on in Winnipeg.
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And they tightened things up, and it was a very impressive victory.
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I know you don't hear that term too often anymore.
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and found that there's basically no Great Cup attendance bump
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Like, to the tune of there's one outlier season.
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I don't remember which team it was, or it might have been connected
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to moving into a new stadium or something the next season also.
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You take out that one outlier year, and in 20 years,
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the average attendance bump has been only about 350 people.
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I think that's probably season's tickets I'm thinking of.
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Um, but, uh, the city definitely loves, uh, every quarterback it has,
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whether it's Nichols or Strebler, uh, or Zach Kolaros.
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Um, and, uh, I think there's a, you know, this puts a little bit of pressure,
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I think, on the Jets to not underachieve this year.
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Uh, and just like, uh, the Bombers with its defense, with, uh, uh,
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Hellebuck and Goal, the, the Jets' strength has not so much been the defense,
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so the defense would have been hard-pressed and, uh, you know,
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But they've got a, uh, goalie who's having a, uh, a career year.
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Um, so Winnipeg sports fans are kind of, uh, hey, the enthusiasm's there.
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There was, uh, an event I was on, a wrestling event I was on and in, uh,
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to my, to my, uh, uh, probably eventual demise, uh, last Friday night.
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And there was a lot of talk about, uh, about Bombers.
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There's Bomber jerseys, Jets jerseys, as well as the wrestlers' garb there.
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So, uh, Winnipeg's kind of revived a bit as a sports town, uh,
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which is good to see, considering the kind of debt the city of Winnipeg
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and the province are trying to navigate and negotiate.
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It keeps people's mind off the more serious things, uh,
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which we aren't even going to delve into today.
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Um, uh, but the, uh, uh, there's, there's a lot of concern here with, uh,
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obviously still with downtown crime in particular and a, uh, uh,
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release of a report the province commissioned, uh,
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There's something that, uh, you know, just broke as we taped this.
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Uh, I don't know that Winnipeg wants to be renamed the new China.
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I'm not so crazy about some of the ideas have come up,
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but in the meantime, people have been, uh, uh, not just, uh, celebrating,
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but I can tell you far fewer drunken incidents than after the great cup
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celebrations of certainly 1984, uh, and, uh, in the past.
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So, uh, people, I guess are a little more mellow than they used to be when
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Personally, I had no, I had no money on the game or anything,
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and I'm surprised they got through the playoffs the way they did.
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Well, and that one guy gets to, that one guy gets to start wearing pants again,
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I'm glad you, I'm glad you mentioned that because I made a remark that, uh, every, every story
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that every newsroom in Winnipeg, I'm not so worried about the ones outside of the city,
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but every newsroom ran, ran every kind of story they could about, uh, about, uh, no pants
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and his wife, which was sort of like a modern day Bickerson's.
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And I realize that's a reference that's going to over people's heads, but every story that
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they ran about that was one less story about nevermind news issues.
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There's lots of sports stories in this town in terms of amateur sports, athletes, coaches,
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supportive parents, and enough about the guy in his no pants, enough.
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Now let's, uh, moving on from sports, because this is actually a news and politics show.
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Um, let's talk about the fire truck attack that happened in Winnipeg.
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Um, I, it's not really national news, but you, for some reason, I don't understand either.
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That was actually, I, I took a look around and I'll, I'll, we'll do this a little backwards
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The, the, um, the accused, I don't think of the right term here.
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I went looking on the court records very briefly yesterday.
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Uh, I was, uh, this happened on Friday and, and I was like, I had just gotten back to town
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from a, uh, uh, three day trip out of town, uh, wrestling and Suris and Brandon and Morton
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Uh, and so while this was going on, I was trying to catch up on my own stuff and, and whatever.
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So I was basically only following it through Twitter and, uh, lo and behold, one of the
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people that was an eyewitness at the very beginning, uh, maybe four minutes after the
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fire truck was stolen at around the 1600 block of Henderson highway.
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Uh, that's counselor, but waddy's award in North Kildonan and Dave Mnook of, um, uh, of, uh,
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It pulled over to let it pass, got the sirens going and everything.
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And the fire truck just ran the back of this guy's, I think it was a, a small truck and
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sent him flying into a hydro pole, which knocked out power for like 800 people in the neighborhood,
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uh, around, uh, whatever noon or one o'clock last Friday.
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I could only find one thing on, uh, on the, uh, on the court records that are available
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online through the government of Manitoba of, uh, a garnishment, uh, when the accused by,
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by, I think it's pronounced BAI Karoma, uh, was a garnish sheet for a little over a thousand
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dollars when he was employed at motor coach industries in, uh, 2014, that debt was satisfied.
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Uh, global news, uh, today, uh, having gone down to the courthouse, found out more about
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this fellow that he was in fact, um, out on bail when the, when he stole the fire truck,
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I'm pretty sure he stole it when they had a tase in to get him out of the vehicle.
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Uh, he was out on bail for domestic assault in October.
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Uh, he has, he has a prior criminal conviction and this was kind of bizarre.
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In 2005, he was acquitted of robbery, but convicted of, uh, I think it was assault.
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So in 2005, this fellow got in a, some kind of deep trouble, seemingly wasn't in any trouble
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Uh, who knows what that was, uh, uh, what that was, uh, over.
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I was actually, I think the, the, uh, that was actually, I think a government garnishment
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So it could be that there was a fine connected with the earlier conviction he hadn't paid.
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Anyways, uh, this fellow originally is, uh, from, I think Sierra Leone hops in a, in a
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Holy, I didn't realize it was attending a medical call.
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Well, you see now this, another reason why it should be a national story.
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This isn't where it was like parked on a, you know, at the fire station out on the lot
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while they're jockeying trucks around, uh, the, the crew, nobody stays with the
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The crew all goes in and there's three high rise buildings that are, you know, mostly
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senior citizens in that area of, of, of, uh, Henderson highway.
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And he hops on the, in the fire truck, careens up Henderson highway, which is the main drag
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on the East side of the, the, the main North South drag like to go towards or out of downtown
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ends up downtown, uh, tries, you know, I want to be careful here.
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I don't know that he tried to run people over, but he certainly aimed at people and made them
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scatter in central park as he's driving through the downtown area, uh, running red lights being
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Now this, um, drive through in central park is also significant because, um, central park
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is largely, the area now is largely, uh, immigrants, especially African immigrants in that area,
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uh, ref, you know, refugees, immigrants, and, uh, certainly, uh, uh, this is on the North
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side of Portage Avenue, uh, about say six blocks from the legislature.
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And so you'll have a fair contingent of, uh, people that are, uh, uh, from first nations,
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So, you know, you'd think that the national media would take a look at this because it's
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one thing to go up and down, go the wrong way on Gary street and, you know, joyriding,
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but riding up into a park and making people scatter when I can guarantee you the majority
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of the people that were in the park at the time were not, uh, businessmen and their secretaries
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He continued from, from his central park excursion, uh, continued up towards the area of the legislature.
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Uh, he, he actually ended up behind Portage place, the mall, which is near, uh, right.
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It's basically adjacent to central park, took out some of the bollards, ended up going southbound.
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Um, I assume up Carlton and then would have made what was actually a turn that a normal
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And the, the cops laid down some spike belts, took out enough tires to stop the vehicle under
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the Midtown bridge, which has a low clearance to begin with, tying up that route, uh, in
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and out of downtown adjacent to, uh, to the river until sometime Friday night.
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Um, uh, among the charges, we'll go through the litany of charges, theft of a motor vehicle,
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He was found to be impaired, but the police would not indicate if it was alcohol or drugs,
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They haven't defined what that weapon is or, or the state of what that weapon is.
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Uh, flight when pursued, fail to stop at an accident times to dry without a valid license.
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Um, he did all this while out on bail for, uh, allegations of a domestic assault, uh, has
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the, the prior of an assault, which kind of makes me wonder if he's got a prior conviction
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for an assault, how with the subsequent domestic assault, he was out on bail.
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But again, I don't know exactly what the policies are of the crown this year compared to other
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Uh, and this of course led to all sorts of questions among the general population, which
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have not been echoed in the mainstream media whatsoever.
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It took till yesterday to get down to the court to check it out.
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Uh, was he known to police in the last few years outside of this domestic matter?
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What, when he came to this country, uh, how was he integrated?
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What were, what do we know about his experiences, his schooling?
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Did he have contact at any point with mental health authorities?
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I mean, if he is not a citizen yet, and yet he has these prior charges and a prior conviction,
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I, and I, I don't think that the citizenship question has actually been addressed.
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Although, uh, the Winnipeg media being not quite as woke, perhaps as other media, um, it did
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actually, uh, publicize his name, which makes him identifiably African.
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Uh, and, uh, nobody has raised the question that I've seen about whether he's, uh, uh, uh,
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has citizenship or if he's a landed immigrant or what his status is.
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What you've mentioned is a very, is, is a good point.
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Uh, if it turns out that he is here at the, uh, at the, uh, at the leisure of the crown,
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Um, but in light of the timing of this, uh, around the same time as the London bridge attack,
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uh, there's the guy in Sweden that who, who had just gotten out of jail after serving five
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years for shooting somebody in the head who rigs a vehicle to drive through a gymnasium
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wall in Sweden, where they were playing, like they weren't playing volleyball.
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It was like, I think they're playing handball or something.
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And that video from inside the gymnasium is absolutely startling and could have been much
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And that fellow leaves behind a letter that mentions Osama bin Laden or whatever.
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But with incidents in Sweden that all the mainstream media don't talk about it, there are definitely
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people out here in the, in the rest of the world that know that there's, uh, bombings
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every day, 21 rapes a day, all this violence in Sweden.
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We just had a guy convicted in Edmonton of an attack with a truck outside of an Edmonton
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And he was charged with a litany of, uh, offenses, including five counts of attempted murder.
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And like this guy, I mean, just the fact that there's no terrorism related charges doesn't
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mean that there are no terrorism related things happening here because the guy in Edmonton
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had an ISIS flag with him and he still wasn't charged with terrorism related charges.
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I have to tell you that, that I look at this case here in Winnipeg that driving into Central
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Park and making people scatter that in, in my opinion, thank God I'm not a crown attorney.
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I, I don't see how that is an attempted vehicular manslaughter.
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That's a, uh, an administrative technicality, perhaps.
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He doesn't know how to drive a damn fire truck.
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Now, the strangest thing is here's, you got a guy who doesn't know how to drive a fire
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truck, driving it at people, going the wrong way on streets.
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No charges are related to the, the, the, the, um, mayhem, the actual mayhem that he caused
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There was a headline put up by CTV that is still not, has still not been removed, which
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I always wanted to do this man charge after high speed chase and stolen fire truck.
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And I thought I was, had misremembered it when this was being discussed on like Saturday
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with some people and a girlfriend of mine, like pulled it right.
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And she pulled it right up on her phone and, and, and took a screenshot and sent it to me.
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And then our, my publisher, Ron East, I mentioned that to him.
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He went and he checked the story and there was no indication there'd been an edit on the
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No attribution for where it was said, when it was said, who heard it totally weird, but
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So again, to bring back my point about, uh, Mr. Karoma, if you've always wanted to do that,
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That's one thing always wanted to drive it for about however long that would be.
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I'm guessing like 12 kilometers up Henderson highway, the wrong way down streets, landing
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under the Midtown bridge, aiming at people one way or the other.
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If you've always wanted to do that, uh, I'll put it this way.
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If you are a citizen, uh, you need a lot of, you need a lot of mental health, uh, assistance.
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Why do you think this hasn't been national news?
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Uh, for the same reason, the guy in Edmonton wasn't charged with terrorism related charges.
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Um, there's a, I think there's a lot of pressure in Canada, um, to make it seem like we are
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completely immune to these problems, even as these sorts of problems are happening all
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Don't you know that everybody's welcome to Canada?
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And it's perfectly fine to have open borders and not vet anybody.
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Um, and, uh, just, you know, let everybody come into the country without making sure that
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they are going to integrate and be perfectly safe for the rest of us.
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Um, there can be no, um, consequences to those sorts of policies because that would
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So I think there's a whole narrative out there that this can't be happening.
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Um, and so we just don't even consider that there could be something more sinister at play.
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Well, I don't think there's a cone of silence yet.
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I, I, I don't know that there should have been, or would have been an opportunity to reveal,
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uh, uh, to report on anything that might've been found in his notebooks at home or this or
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that as, as is an other, uh, we find in other, uh, other cases and other
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Uh, but it will be interesting to see what, what does or doesn't come out.
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Uh, I don't have a problem if this guy's, you know, uh, well, I do have a problem because
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even if he's a citizen, this, uh, bailed on a domestic with a previous assault, you know,
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I'd like to see what kind of evaluations have been done about how safe or not safe of a character
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It's really weird that I haven't seen any stories as in people chattering online about
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this guy that, you know, somebody knows him from, from works.
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Um, so it could be, it's just a, a lone wolf, you know, quiet keeps to himself, uh, character,
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not even a statement though, from the African association, any of those agencies, no statements
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Uh, uh, which I also find it would be nice if they had spoken out something, even to
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say that he was known in the community and, and people try to help him in the past.
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Like, it's like, nobody's throwing the guy a light preserver, let alone try to push him
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It's, it's, it's being handled a very strange way.
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One thing the police will not discuss or the fire paramedic service is why the, uh, theft
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prevention device in the fire truck doesn't work.
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And the, the head of the union said that, uh, well, it was there, but it doesn't work.
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And we can't very well put a club on the vehicles cause that'd be ready to go instantly,
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I don't think that's going to make a big difference, but the notion that a Winnipeg
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fire truck can be stolen that easily by some jerk.
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It's, uh, you know, who else has been silent about this?
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I don't think anybody from councils said anything about it actually kind of it's, it, it makes
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you wonder, it makes you wonder what they're going to say.
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If other stuff comes up, that makes this more along the lines of what you discussed
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We don't have, there's, the information is clearly out there somewhere.
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Um, and people want to know, is this guy just bonkers?
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And if he's just bonkers, why is he out on bail?
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Because that seems somewhat dangerous as, as evidenced in his, uh, little joy ride.
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And if there's something more sinister or why aren't we even asking if there's something
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Because if there is, I think we all deserve to know.
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Look, you know, in the old days in Winnipeg, uh, bringing this back to locally, how it's,
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you know, there was like nothing on the newscasts yesterday about this at all, which, which I
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just thought there'd be some kind of follow-up and there was not like nothing, which is weird
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There's one story how to, I think the guy who, whose truck got rammed into the hydro
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I think I saw something with him, but not the kind of usual follow-up I would have expected
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The fact that it's not being paid attention to nationally, um, it's unusual enough that
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And that's before we get into the other factors.
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The notion that, uh, that we can't discuss the possibilities, the Canadians too polite
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Uh, this actually leads into, into the next topic we're going to discuss, which, which
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is the, um, the, uh, the acceptance of all peoples as being evidenced on college campuses
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Yeah, uh, Joe Warmington has a great article as always in the Toronto Sun.
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He's one of the best in the biz, one of the greatest shoe leather journalists in all of
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Um, he's got a great article about, uh, York university.
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They sanctioned a November 20th event that had four former Israeli defense forces reservists
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invited to speak about their experiences by Heyroot Canada.
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And of course the BDS folks came out and the students against Israeli apartheid, there's
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Actually, when I was in Israel, I was shocked that the whole country is literally defended
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And you walk away and you're, you walk away with this sense that our young people are not
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doing enough with their lives that, you know, these kids in Israel, I mean, and they're
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literally, listen, growing up, growing up very Jewish and Jewish elementary school, Jewish
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So every teacher that we had had served in the IDF in one form or another, whether they
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were paratroopers and some of them couldn't or wouldn't discuss what they did.
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And, and there were people that, um, you know, not so much in my grade, but in the older grades
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where they would go in grade 10 and they would go live on a kibbutz and exchange program for
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And there's some that would go and serve in the IDF.
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And, and, and went to serve my, my, my dad's oldest brother, uncle mayor, uh, he, um, made
00:27:30.620
all the, uh, moved to Israel and, and, and the most, there was a picture of him on my grandparents
00:27:37.120
wall wearing his, uh, uh, and again, I don't know if he was a paratrooper exactly or what
00:27:41.460
he's, what his service was, but wearing his service beret and, and, and, uh, looking like
00:27:46.420
full Israeli, uh, this to us is, was a normal expectation for the young men and women to,
00:27:55.900
to be willing to risk their lives for the survival of our people and the state of Israel.
00:28:08.340
It is remarkable that with the generational changes that we've seen in the Western world,
00:28:13.680
that in Israel, knowing that they could be murdered for no reason whatsoever at any moment,
00:28:21.500
that, that dedication to state and to country and to our people, as, as well as to all, when
00:28:29.320
you're in the IDF, you're defending the Druze, the Druze, you're defending the, the, the, the
00:28:34.220
Arab, the Arab, Israeli Zarebim, you're defending everybody within your borders, the, and especially
00:28:40.720
all the, you know, the, the various Christian sects, uh, in, in Israel.
00:28:45.280
Um, and when you, you're right, when you compare it to what Western societies, uh, uh, youth,
00:28:51.900
what their expectations are, what their level of, of a, of a, what they consider a level of
00:28:56.680
achievement, they, they are very, and 99% of them are very clued out about what sacrifice
00:29:04.740
means, about what, about what, uh, dedication really means.
00:29:08.740
Uh, in, in this case, these reservists, uh, were brought over by Heirut and, um, before,
00:29:15.920
once the event was announced, uh, Heirut Canada having, uh, status as a, a, a group, uh, student
00:29:23.300
group, uh, on the, uh, York University campus, uh, immediately the, uh, the, uh, friends of Israel
00:29:31.600
Israel started to band together, claiming that having soldiers here was a violation of
00:29:42.520
So to have them here just means you had Israelis here.
00:29:47.420
Uh, uh, one of the, um, one of these organizations, uh, I gotta find the name of it, uh, uh, oh,
00:29:56.780
there it is, uh, couragecoalition.ca, whoever they are, that put out a press release about
00:30:01.400
these IDF soldiers coming in as a, a thinly veiled attempt at recruiting volunteers, the
00:30:06.120
Israeli military, and that that's illegal in Canada.
00:30:08.420
Well, actually it's not illegal to recruit Israeli citizens or citizens of your own country.
00:30:13.320
You know, Switzerland could, could go and recruit people on campuses here.
00:30:16.840
Uh, that's not, it was not a recruitment drive whatsoever.
00:30:20.880
Uh, it's talking in a very human terms, these soldiers, uh, about their experiences in, in
00:30:26.400
not just dealing with, um, with the, the, the alive, with the lively kind of, uh, dangerous
00:30:35.460
situations that will emerge on a day-to-day basis, but managing the tensions, dealing with
00:30:40.280
communities that are taught to hate Jews, nevermind distrust, but to outright hate and
00:30:45.760
Uh, you, you don't, I don't know that you really have very many similar examples like
00:30:50.660
that. Uh, and, and, and it's, it's clearly meant to build bridges among humanity. It's
00:30:59.840
not, they aren't there declaring Israeli sovereignty over, uh, over the Negev or over the, over the,
00:31:07.900
uh, uh, over the Gaza, uh, Gaza Strip or anything like that.
00:31:11.940
Yeah. And instead it's immediately determined by these kinds of radicals that if they're
00:31:18.480
in the IDF, if they're loyal to the state of Israel, therefore they must be representatives
00:31:22.760
of the political machinery. Uh, uh, and they then describe what went on at York as a peaceful,
00:31:29.900
but energetic counter protest organized by York students.
00:31:34.320
I love how these NDP, uh, far left-wing protests are always peaceful.
00:31:40.340
But this one, but the funny thing is that this one wasn't even, um, how should I put this?
00:31:48.140
That the NDP by not coming out, Andrea Horwath, Horwath and, and Jagmeet Singh, by not making
00:31:53.780
statements, uh, uh, decrying this appearance and, uh, these Israeli soldiers, the NDP stayed
00:32:04.640
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch, I guess. I mean,
00:32:07.680
couldn't put it, but the NDP wasn't radical enough. The NDP is Gaussian.
00:32:12.380
Did they say anything about this? Now, how peaceful was this? Was this, what happened was there
00:32:16.580
was a gathering through the hallways going towards the hall, uh, very hall where the, uh, speech
00:32:22.620
was taking place. Now, uh, Warmington's column quoted, uh, Gila Yafet, uh, who was a student
00:32:29.600
there. She was going up the stairs and she heard, go back to the ovens, bring back the
00:32:37.200
intifade, kill the Jews. Now let's pick this apart. Go back to the ovens is as not an Israeli,
00:32:44.040
an anti-Israel political statement. It is an anti-Semitic statement.
00:32:48.200
Yep. Yep. That is as that is the epitome of Jew hate.
00:32:52.740
That's genocide. That's yeah. Bring back the intifade, uh, which was organized terrorism
00:33:02.800
targeting, not military, uh, military objectives, but civilian objectives, blowing up pizza places,
00:33:10.500
blowing up kids as they're standing on a club on a street in Israel.
00:33:13.900
Kidnappings. And, and generally targeting identifiable Jews, you know, Jewish males wearing
00:33:20.000
a kippah or whatever. Yep. I don't see where that's a very peaceful statement. Kill the Jews.
00:33:26.840
Well, again, what do they say? Peaceful, but energetic counter protest. Yep. Um, those aren't
00:33:32.380
words of peace to say the least. Leora David was quoted in Warmington's column. She heard the same
00:33:38.220
thing. Go back to the ovens. One, uh, one person started saying it. Uh, now there was,
00:33:43.460
also, uh, you know, the root of this is that this was organized by Heirut Canada. And Lauren Isaacs
00:33:50.600
is a friend of the J.ca. We brought her here to Winnipeg where one way or the other, somebody tried
00:33:56.020
to get the event canceled, no matter what is said by so-called officials. Uh, Lauren is a brilliant
00:34:02.960
speaker. Uh, uh, uh, 20, 23 years old, part-time student that has taken Heirut Canada on her back
00:34:11.180
and, uh, with her eloquence, with her determination, uh, with her presence, uh, has pushed back against
00:34:21.300
these, uh, largely Muslim, but radicalized anti-Semitic, anti-Israel, uh, pro-intifade groups,
00:34:30.780
uh, on not just York University elsewhere. In October, she set up an information booth.
00:34:36.440
She was spit on twice. These, uh, people were, were screaming, uh, forming lines in front of the
00:34:42.560
table, screaming, uh, and all she did was put up a sign saying, I'm a proud Zionist. Ask me why.
00:34:49.140
And she was attacked in October, uh, about this, uh, about doing this. Uh, these, uh, largely,
00:34:56.500
she characterized them as largely Palestinian, uh, protesters that came out and they were itching
00:35:02.760
for another crack at Lauren. It's plainly obvious that her not being meek, her standing up for the
00:35:12.180
historic rights of Jews in their homeland. Yeah. That this upsets, upsets the apple cart of the
00:35:19.020
anti-Semites who continue to propagate this falsehood that Jews are colonizers in Israel.
00:35:28.140
Uh, so for instance, when a housing development is started in Hebron, uh, that this is somehow
00:35:33.580
colonialism, even though Ronnie's own family, the Hamizrahi family were purged from Hebron in 1929.
00:35:41.280
Yeah. As part of the pogroms. Now after this, uh, so October with the Hebron event, which had a lot of
00:35:52.560
heat, no punches thrown, morphed that anger morphed into what took place at York, where Jews were trying
00:36:01.440
to get through, uh, to see the event. And probably a few people who weren't Jewish and where they're
00:36:07.240
greeted by this kind of, these kinds of chants and the pushing and the shoving both ways.
00:36:12.640
And after the event, the Jewish establishment, which would be the Canada-Israel Jewish Affairs
00:36:18.400
Committee, which is Sija, uh, otherwise known as the Federation in Toronto will be the UJA.
00:36:24.760
Sija's a little, there's a slight, uh, slight delineation, but not much, largely the same characters.
00:36:30.100
These are big macher groups. They all start making statements. We decry the violence
00:36:34.700
and the hatred of, uh, and students should feel safe. Okay. Except they had nothing to do with the
00:36:42.000
event. And in fact, didn't do anything to support it or help it. And then Hillel Ontario opened their
00:36:47.880
yaps about how concerned they were and, and, uh, how they had, had, uh, worked to, uh, secure. They were
00:36:55.100
there last night, securing the safety of students and, uh, Giri Maman, who I'd not heard of before.
00:37:02.120
Oh, he's good. He's great. He's very good. And I was unaware of him. I think he's connected now
00:37:08.280
in with Ron. He outright called on, uh, on Facebook, outright called Hillel York, a bunch of
00:37:13.980
liars. Uh, the quote was, we're thankful York's administration campus security worked with us,
00:37:19.700
worked with us to ensure the safety of our students in our space. He figures that they may have made a few
00:37:24.980
phone calls before the event about it coming up. But Hillel, and I'm not sure, but I think there
00:37:30.840
might've been another Jewish group, but Hillel Ontario told students that they did not endorse
00:37:35.340
the event. They considered it dangerous. They would create a dangerous atmosphere and advise students
00:37:41.040
not to attend. Now that's a hell of a way to stand up for Israel. That's a great way for Hillel Ontario
00:37:46.940
or any Jewish group to stand up for, for the people who serve and risk their lives to defend the Jewish
00:37:53.720
state to tell people, don't go see them. Don't go support the event. It's too dangerous. Somebody might get hurt
00:38:00.920
on a college campus in Toronto, not a campus in Beirut, not a campus in Damascus, not a campus in Cairo,
00:38:08.940
a campus in Toronto. So he called Hillel, uh, Ontario out and said that Lauren and himself
00:38:18.460
met with the police at 31 division and met with security to work out the details. Uh, and that
00:38:24.980
the, the, uh, had the assistance of the Jewish defense league. Uh, and there's, it turns out
00:38:30.860
there's two Jewish biker groups in Toronto. I didn't even know they were new. There was one.
00:38:37.660
And so when the pushing and shoving started, I'm sure that the, uh, that the anti-Semites in the crowd,
00:38:49.340
I'm sure they were surprised instead of dealing with, uh, you know, uh, um, uh, you know,
00:38:57.060
the, the, what you typically think of as the skinny yeshiva boys and meek, uh, you know,
00:39:03.020
they're dealing with some bulls and they weren't used to that. And the bulls pushed back.
00:39:08.820
Uh, I, I'm not positive where the charges have or haven't been late. Cause there was some
00:39:12.760
altercations. I know one guy ended up in the hospital. I seen pictures of that. One guy did
00:39:17.720
get, did get rock. Uh, that should not be happening from either side, by the way. But the fact is that
00:39:23.640
without those bulls there, without those Jewish men there who've thrown punches in their lives,
00:39:28.540
who are willing to stand up, this could have turned very nasty against the Jews,
00:39:35.320
against the Israelis that were there. Uh, Hillel had nothing to do with the event and the security
00:39:40.420
plan. And Lauren herself had a comment. They did a lot to sabotage my event. They were unsuccessful.
00:39:47.700
They tend to take credit for the event themselves and publicly made false statements. They failed me
00:39:52.480
and other Jews and Zionists on campus. They deserve to be called out for their divisive, disingenuous,
00:39:57.620
apologetic, and lying behavior. Uh, now this has actually mobilized the Jewish community because
00:40:04.680
they saw that siege, uh, that normally is, uh, and Toronto, the UJA has taken community security
00:40:11.320
back in house. Uh, Winnipeg, for instance, they'd rely on, on the local siege of Montreal,
00:40:16.780
I think would be the same. They did, uh, I'm, I'm watching my language here. They did bupkis,
00:40:23.340
absolutely nothing. But the community has been very motivated by seeing this violence,
00:40:28.900
by seeing this outcry, by hearing these chants. Uh, uh, and the, the other group that needs to be
00:40:35.500
complimented is the Friends of Simon Wiesenthal Center. So, um, one woman posted on Facebook that
00:40:41.940
she had called the hate crime unit to report these statements, viva, viva intifada, et cetera.
00:40:48.600
She wanted to come to the police department and swear an affidavit and was told she was calling
00:40:53.380
the wrong number. Now she calls the number that she thinks is the hate crime unit. Uh,
00:40:59.440
she asked, well, what number is this? They wouldn't answer. They said, well, it shouldn't
00:41:02.840
be on Google. She checks with Google. It's a Toronto police intelligence unit. Um, she had already
00:41:08.840
written York university and, uh, uh, the, uh, the president, Dr. Lenton, uh, uh, and, uh, she had
00:41:17.920
forwarded this person at forward, the letter she sent, uh, president Lenton to the police chief of
00:41:23.200
Toronto, Mark Saunders, who emailed back that, that, uh, it'll be forwarded her, you know, her
00:41:28.820
complaint will be forwarded to a special investigation unit, which she figures is the police
00:41:33.080
intelligent unit. So, um, the Toronto police were already taking it very seriously. They,
00:41:39.320
not everybody involved in this was campus students. There was certainly the JDL Jewish
00:41:44.580
bikers are out so-called outsiders. Uh, but a lot of the people on the Palestinian side
00:41:49.420
were also outsiders. Uh, many of whom are familiar to us. Uh, Rhonda Lenton is, uh, hired
00:41:57.220
an outside investigator, uh, potential recommendations on how we handle external individuals or groups
00:42:03.000
who come to campus with the intent of instigating conflict or mischief, uh, a long letter. She,
00:42:08.840
and it's a formal letter. Lots of people in Toronto have gotten this, um, a difficult moment from our
00:42:14.660
community. They want to encourage open, respectful, and free expression, blah, blah, blah. You know,
00:42:18.820
what was missing for, uh, Rhonda Lenton sent to everybody, the term antisemitism. Yeah.
00:42:26.220
Doesn't want to even mention that this is what went on in response to this, the York Federation of
00:42:31.860
Students, seeing that the administration wasn't going to be on their side, passed a motion, uh,
00:42:38.260
to oppose, they will actively oppose, quote, representatives of the Israeli state appearing
00:42:43.580
on campus. Uh, but to make it seem like it's not just the Jews, uh, they broadened their motion to
00:42:50.640
any imperialist power invited to campus to gather support for war and occupation in Palestine and
00:42:56.300
elsewhere. Wow. Hmm. Are they going to protest if a speaker from China or Pakistan, throw a few
00:43:04.920
countries in here, Sheila, go ahead. Iran, you know, I wonder if they've passed the same sort of
00:43:11.960
motions to, uh, oppose representatives of the Iranian state. I bet no, no, because the Iranian state is,
00:43:19.500
is no doubt, uh, uh, making sure that monies flow to these, these kinds of radicalized hate group.
00:43:25.580
Yep. Uh, uh, you know, there was a post that was put, uh, uh, another post was put on, on Facebook
00:43:33.100
and it was by an American guy. Uh, I think it's more so about American campuses, but we now see that
00:43:40.100
in Eastern Canada, this is a concern for, for Jewish families. Did you send your child to college to be
00:43:47.900
attacked for being Jewish? Did you send them to brainwash to hate Israel to be bullied, bullied
00:43:52.700
and intimidated by pro Palestinian hate groups to feel like a Jew in 1930s Germany and telling people
00:43:58.720
to complain to these college administrators now and, and to be loud about it. And honestly,
00:44:03.840
the Jewish establishment, whether it's a Toronto, uh, we'll talk about McGill briefly. Uh, I'm sure
00:44:09.580
something's going to happen in Winnipeg in the new year because, uh, it's time, you know, it's sooner or
00:44:15.040
later, some things that are going to happen here as well. And I don't know, not that we
00:44:20.100
have a Jewish biker group that I know of here, but I don't know how prepared the Israelis in
00:44:27.200
Winnipeg will be willing to show up in numbers, but whether the Jewish community leadership
00:44:33.240
is going to put out a call to the general community, to people like myself that are of Ashkenazi descent,
00:44:38.520
for instance, to show up in numbers, to be prepared to push back. I don't know if they've got balls
00:44:46.500
enough to recognize that our people in this country are, are facing outright hate. This isn't the odd
00:44:56.240
wing nut spray painting a swastika on a sidewalk outside a synagogue at McGill. Yep. Jordan Wright
00:45:03.300
is a, uh, second year science student that is a representative on the, uh, legislative council.
00:45:11.100
Uh, she, it was learned that she was going to go on a trip to Israel, a program called face to face
00:45:17.660
sponsored by Hillel Canada. And she proceeded to be targeted by the, uh, students union there
00:45:25.980
interrogated about her personal life harassed, told if she goes, she's going to be, if she,
00:45:31.660
she should resign and she doesn't resign, she's going to be impeached. There's a non-Jewish shoot
00:45:36.700
actually, I think two going on the same trip that have not been threatened with any consequences
00:45:41.620
whatsoever. The, the way they play this game as well, you know, by going to Israel, you're making
00:45:47.660
a political statement in our organization, you know, your representation of students must be
00:45:51.940
non-political, but there's a member of the executive with a pro BDS sticker on her water
00:45:55.800
bottle, but that's not considered political. And I feel really sorry for Jordan Wright. I don't know
00:46:02.020
from a, a hole on the ground that a second year university student. So she's, what do you figure
00:46:07.160
Sheila? 21, maybe, maybe, maybe 21 and a science student. And here's a, uh, a student's union that
00:46:15.960
passed the international Holocaust remembrance Alliance definition of antisemitism, which includes
00:46:22.140
berating Jews for policies of the government of Israel. And here they are doing the same thing
00:46:29.860
that they recognize as antisemitism to one of their own, uh, uh, legislative members. Uh, she wouldn't
00:46:37.860
resign. And then, uh, I guess it was a Monday this week, uh, the university itself, um, uh, university
00:46:45.960
official, uh, the deputy provost Fabrice Lebeau put out a statement that this motion, this attempt by
00:46:53.860
the student union, contrary to the university's values of inclusion, uh, that, that this is, um,
00:47:02.300
and McGill has, has had, and New York too, has had antisemitic incidents going back well over 10 years.
00:47:09.080
This is, uh, this is, uh, these, these, this is an example of campuses that are hotbeds of radicalized
00:47:14.300
leftism that, that finds allies, uh, anywhere they can on the political spectrum. As long as in the end
00:47:22.880
Jews are bad, Israel should be dismantled, colonialism, capitalism, all the usual things for a science
00:47:29.660
student to want to take a trip to Israel and then to be bullied in this manner, uh, uh, in Quebec,
00:47:39.080
in Quebec, mind you, where you think that a Quebec government official, or God forbid somebody from
00:47:46.340
the federal government, what with its seat of power coming largely out of Montreal and Toronto.
00:47:52.420
I have not seen, have you? No. One comment from one member of parliament. No. Liberal,
00:47:58.300
liberal, now maybe somebody did, but I haven't seen it. Certainly not from a liberal member because it
00:48:02.860
would have brought to my attention. None of them. They all run in cowardice. If it's going to take
00:48:08.340
some Jew, some Jew, Israeli student or, or, um, organization worker getting the beat down and
00:48:18.920
being put in an ICU, uh, before one of these political officials speaks up, it will be a, a, um,
00:48:25.860
an indictment, uh, against our political leadership. This kind of hatred, these kinds of remote,
00:48:34.180
how, how, how do you have police officers at York university hear these, hear these calls go back
00:48:44.000
in the ovens, kill the Jews and not immediately call for backups and start collaring the people.
00:48:52.820
Oh, well, get ahold of us and we'll take your statements. Yeah. So Jews increasingly in North
00:48:58.420
America, this is what young Jews are, are, are, are being subjected to. And they, they are not,
00:49:08.500
I mean, Hey, Root, certainly Lauren Isaacs tries to equipment with the arguments to counter these
00:49:14.740
kinds of falsehoods, uh, uh, that, that are raised about colonialism and, and occupate. Gaza's occupied.
00:49:22.260
There hasn't been a Jew in Gaza since 2005, but Gaza's under occupation. Um, didn't they take the
00:49:29.580
bodies of Jewish people when they withdrew from Gaza? I think they did. They even took their dead
00:49:37.280
when they left. They did. Yeah, of course. So, so what we see happening in Canada and this, and you
00:49:44.320
know, I, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention this at York university was like the day or two days after
00:49:49.840
the Trudeau government, uh, uh, reverse this field and voted with such staunch human rights,
00:49:56.660
uh, uh, represent and natives that represent, uh, uh, uh, uh, nationalities that represent human
00:50:03.140
rights like Korea, like North Korea in emotion condemning Israel again, over the same usual
00:50:10.600
colonial bullshit. So that from the Trudeau government, as he panders for a seat on the security
00:50:18.120
council, this was a signal that emboldened these radicals, these Jew haters. And these are,
00:50:25.940
don't, you know, people out there that think I'm focusing too much on that. Believe me,
00:50:29.440
they hate you too. They hate democracy. They hate Western, uh, Judeo-Christian values. They hate
00:50:37.720
the traditions that, that, that form the foundation of our society. It was very convenient. Finally,
00:50:44.380
that Greta has gone and admitted that it's, that it's all about the patriarchy and colonialism,
00:50:49.080
not actually saving the planet. And you really, you out there that, that, that, that, you know,
00:50:56.400
watch the rebel and consume other media. It's worth your while to pick up the phone, call your MP,
00:51:03.120
whoever it may be. And even if they're in one of these NDP, be pro BDS, no good Nixon Montreal
00:51:10.340
and give them an earful. Yeah. Because, yeah, because you don't ever see Jews or Israelis in
00:51:18.820
Canada. Now I'm not saying everybody is pure of thought. That's obviously would be ridiculous,
00:51:24.840
but there is no groundswell among the Zionist community. Kill all the Palestinians, throw them
00:51:33.120
off, uh, uh, throw them out of their land, uh, cut off their water, poison their wells.
00:51:40.640
There's no groundswell of hatred among Zionists towards any people in the Middle East. Uh, although
00:51:48.320
there's certainly a great deal of distress for, you know, the, the agitators like, you know, Iran
00:51:52.880
and Syria and like that. But in terms of people in the Holy Land itself, this is a, this hatred,
00:51:57.840
these threats are a one way street. Yeah. And, and, um, campuses are the battleground. We've seen it
00:52:07.380
in the States. We've seen it in England and Canada, uh, cannot afford to have generations of children,
00:52:15.840
young adults lost to this kind of rhetoric in this kind of internecine warfare when they're there to
00:52:22.700
learn and to expand their minds. Uh, there's now a lot of talk about people withdrawing their donations
00:52:29.260
to York university as well. They should, there are many facilities. They're named after, uh,
00:52:34.000
Jewish philanthropists. Uh, and, and this for the Toronto community, which is the biggest one, uh,
00:52:39.900
biggest, uh, congregation of Jews in, uh, in Canada, somewhere around 180 or 200,000. This might've
00:52:47.000
served as a wake up call, uh, but not enough of them have thanked Lauren Isaacs for taking the initiative
00:52:51.740
to do this. Yeah. You know what? Uh, it's a really great point that the young, uh, Israelis and the
00:52:59.920
young Jewish people on Canada's campus, they cannot look to our politicians to save them. Um, because
00:53:06.640
politicians are not speaking out about this. They are going to have to, they're cowards and these
00:53:11.580
young people are going to have to save themselves. And it looks like with people like Lauren, they just
00:53:16.960
might. Now we have, I just want to mention of all things, Canadian parliamentarians. I'm going to
00:53:22.360
suggest something. I normally, normally I don't say do it the way they do it. You know, in European
00:53:26.480
countries, then you end up with bike lanes and stupid places. And I don't really think Europe should
00:53:30.320
be copied in terms of lifestyle. A lot of things. The French parliament has, has decided that anti-Zionism
00:53:37.400
is anti-Semitism. Yeah. Stephen Harper thought that too. Yeah. It's good enough for France. It's
00:53:43.300
crawling with, with, with, uh, with, um, uh, this kind of radical, uh, Muslim, uh, uh, the radical
00:53:52.180
Imams and, and, and, and this attempt to destroy the way of life. We see it in France. We see it in
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Sweden. France recognizes that you can't separate the hatred for the, the Jewish people with the, uh,
00:54:05.540
the way that, uh, people want to dismantle the state of Israel, Canadian politicians of all,
00:54:11.000
of all things I'm saying, why don't you be a little more like France open your mouths and stand up for
00:54:17.080
Jews? Yes. We're plenty good enough to get, get our votes. We're plenty good enough to get our
00:54:22.300
political donations. We're plenty good enough to like, you know, come to the human rights museum
00:54:26.960
that was the Asper family, uh, uh, uh, quarterback. We're plenty good for good enough for that.
00:54:32.720
But when our children, our grandchildren are being threatened on campuses and you stay silent,
00:54:38.140
you can do a lot better. All of you. On that note, let's move to something a little more fun.
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You have a story. Um, it's funny because I probably do more stories about coyotes than
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anybody else in the media. Um, I, I, ironically enough. Um, but you have a, a story that, uh,
00:55:02.000
links, I guess your family to a coyote that was hit on the road.
00:55:07.000
So I'm finding my own business and all of a sudden my sister creates a Facebook group with me and her
00:55:12.500
daughters. Uh, so there, we don't have a family gossip group or anything like that. Uh, it may be,
00:55:19.800
you know, if a Hanukkah party's coming up. So I knew something was up. My sister puts in a link
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to a story about a man hits coyote. Uh, and, uh, as the story went, uh, uh, a man, the first story
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didn't identify who a Winnipeg man driving down the highway on his way to work and hit something,
00:55:41.280
thought it was a dog, picked it up and put it in his vehicle. He's going to work, uh, for an 11 PM
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shift, 11 to seven, an overnight shift puts in his vehicle and goes into work and they start calling,
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you know, the RCMP or conservation officers. Nobody can come till the morning. He thought it
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was a husky or a big, or some kind of big dog. And it turns out it was a coyote. And this was not
00:56:04.180
just any Winnipeg man. It was my uncle. And he's only about 10 years older than me. So this is, uh,
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very much like my older brother, the way I was raised. He's only like, uh, I'm pretty sure he's
00:56:15.360
only 10 years older than me. So I was like, I don't remember, but I was at his bar mitzvah.
00:56:19.720
And here's my uncle Ellie on the news. I'm sure it's the first time his name has been in a newspaper
00:56:25.800
since like his birth announcement. He's, he's a, a pious Jew, a science. He was in his day,
00:56:34.380
a science nerd, went to the U of W to take sciences. A, and, and I'm amazed even without people knowing
00:56:41.740
who he, you know, that knowing that he was my uncle, my dad's youngest brother and still like,
00:56:47.380
still lives in my grandparents' house. He'd never, he'd never left the homestead. So to speak half a
00:56:52.980
block from where the synagogue was. I was amazed at the people I know that, that had such wonderful
00:57:02.440
things to say about him without knowing it was my relative without knowing it was like an older
00:57:07.460
brother to me for saving this animal and for caring, because his rationale was that this animal
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injured on the highway, knocked out, uh, was going to be attacked by predators. And that's why he's,
00:57:21.580
why he saved a Wiley coyote. And he went for a visit to the, uh, uh, the, uh, I don't remember what
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it was called exactly the, uh, wilderness, uh, center where it's, uh, been lodged, uh, for recovery.
00:57:35.860
Yeah. The way, the way I want to give him a plug wildlife Haven rehabilitation center.
00:57:40.020
And so uncle Ali went out there and looks through the, through the, and, uh, it was funny that there
00:57:45.880
are a couple of people, you know, gradually yesterday came up to me. Um, you could tell from
00:57:50.900
the last name, which is the real family last name. So everybody, we're all related. Anybody with
00:57:55.020
that last name is related. Uh, he's really like the least famous of all of us, never one that would
00:58:01.320
be prone to public speaking or any misadventures like that. And it would never appear at city hall
00:58:06.780
or anything, any of the work that I've done. But one thing that really cracked me up was, um,
00:58:12.360
uh, a couple of people remarked on watching his, his interview. I think it was Samantha Samson on CBC
00:58:18.420
that, uh, besides that you could see a family resemblance in the face, but once he started
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talking and the use of language and, uh, you could see that he was, you could see the two of us are
00:58:32.220
related just from the cadence, from the kinds of language that he used, uh, the way he described
00:58:38.480
the incident in the animal as showing off the damage, very minimal damage, the front end of the
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car, which really surprised me. Uh, and, uh, I, I never thought I'd see the day where my religious,
00:58:49.940
uh, my religious uncle, who's like the vice president of the synagogue would end up on,
00:58:54.600
on every news channel. Um, but if he was going to end up in the news doing so by being a good,
00:59:01.960
uh, a good Samaritan, I mean, what we, what we call it when you do something, it's in this realm,
00:59:07.180
in the Jewish faith, it's a mitzvah. And for him to get the kind of recognition that he's gotten,
00:59:13.600
uh, it was, uh, people that don't know my uncle Ellie have no idea how many, nevermind animals
00:59:22.220
he's helped to the point where it's a little ridiculous with cats and dogs, but how many
00:59:26.700
people he's helped and never asked for credit, never taken credit for it. Uh, uh, and, and really
00:59:34.600
what my uncle reflects is the values taught to him by my grandparents, by his parents, by my Zeta and
00:59:40.700
my Baba. And, uh, it's, it was really something to see people identify the similar characteristics,
00:59:47.780
uh, through this incident that, uh, that runs in my family and that I try to reflect sometimes,
00:59:53.780
uh, to my journalism in terms of the kinds of stories I cover and sticking up for people.
00:59:59.800
I don't really do a lot of animal stories, honestly, but I guess I could just sort of leave
01:00:03.880
that up for my uncle from now on to fill in the gap. Yeah. I think he's got it covered. Um, Marty,
01:00:08.120
where can people find the work that you do? Um, both your secular work and, um, the work you do,
01:00:16.520
uh, covering issues of the Jewish community. And more importantly, I guess, how can they support
01:00:20.640
your work to keep you going? Uh, the J.ca is, uh, one location. Uh, and, uh, I don't know for sure
01:00:29.940
what we're going to have up when this airs, but, uh, Ron, uh, Ron East, my publisher's on the road
01:00:34.520
and he was itching to write an, uh, a publisher's, uh, statement with regards to the incidents in
01:00:40.540
York and McGill. Uh, and I think that we'll probably have a, something like that up, uh,
01:00:45.600
for me personally, uh, the great Canadian talk show, the acronym TGCTS.com. Um, I've been a little
01:00:52.080
out of the loop news wise lately in terms of publishing stuff. Uh, I've been trying to get
01:00:56.140
some, uh, some private work off, uh, off the table, but I, I am inclined to produce a story
01:01:02.400
that asks the following question. Uh, Manitoba, the Manitoba government loves putting up press
01:01:06.520
releases about finding this business and that business for industrial accidents. You know,
01:01:11.220
a guy leaned in to pull something out of a machine and his hand got sucked in and they
01:01:15.200
find the company $40,000. And, uh, these kinds of, again, these are mostly industrial accidents,
01:01:21.360
workplace safety accidents. The board of Manitoba liquor and lotteries, uh, has known for over two
01:01:27.740
years about this uptick in robberies. Uh, it culminated with a girl getting standing behind
01:01:32.600
the counter while a, uh, uh, uh, there was more than one guy. It wasn't a mobbing in terms of five
01:01:37.400
guys, but there was a few guys there. I think this one involved three people standing behind the
01:01:41.940
counter as she was instructed. The security, the token security guard they have had been threatened.
01:01:48.240
He ran into a locked room. She's standing behind the counter, not moving. I don't know if she was
01:01:53.300
told to open the door or not. And this girl took a sucker punch right to the face, not cool,
01:02:00.440
taken to the hospital. I do not understand how liquor and lotteries officials, knowing that this
01:02:08.180
danger was increasing week after week, month after month with, with these mobbings. And these are
01:02:14.900
people that are, are sometimes they're disguised. Sometimes they aren't. I don't understand how
01:02:19.400
they have not been charged under the workplace safety act. And I don't accept the excuse that,
01:02:25.140
well, they were appointed by the government. That makes them special. If the liquor stores here
01:02:30.140
were private enterprise, I guarantee you the pollister government would putting out a press release
01:02:35.200
about the fines and the, the, the sanctions that would be issued against private liquor stores in
01:02:41.460
Alberta. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. They would go, they would go nuts on private enterprise, but there's
01:02:48.760
been no consequences. And look, some of these people are nice people. Don't get me wrong. I'm
01:02:53.920
pretty sure that the board, both of the, there's liquor and lotteries. And then there's the bigger
01:02:58.120
board that involves the cannabis too. Both boards have former conservative MLAs on them that last time
01:03:04.000
I looked that I know. And there are reasonable people. That doesn't mean that, that the individuals on
01:03:09.160
the board should not be held to account for not clamping down a lot sooner and not instituting
01:03:15.600
better safety protocols. And instead some girls got it. And I'll tell you who else has fallen down
01:03:20.560
on the job. Honestly, the MGU, the government employees union that, uh, they're normally they're
01:03:26.180
a lot more aggressive and they can't make enough excuses for the government's failure to, to, to do
01:03:32.240
something to stave off these wave of robberies that have endangered, not only the staff, but the
01:03:36.760
customers as well. And for in the, in that instance, the liquor mart was inside a mall.
01:03:42.040
And so that endangers customers too. And, uh, uh, uh, people are concerned about identifying the
01:03:50.680
perps and all of this is driven by poverty. No, it's driven by criminal behavior. And anybody who
01:03:55.520
says, Oh, people are stealing, you know, 60 pounders of vodka because they're poor. Well, maybe they're
01:04:01.040
poor to poor to buy a 60 pounder of vodka when they're stealing five or six of them. This isn't
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poverty. It's criminal behavior and the lack of action by the employer to protect their employees
01:04:13.400
adequately. In my opinion, should be subject to the same kinds of investigations and sanctions
01:04:20.300
as if it was a smelter and flint fly. Well, I think I'll probably be running something along those
01:04:25.820
lines. I might even name all the board members. Actually, nobody talks about that. I might, I might
01:04:31.000
even run that, see if I can get a current list, put their names up. And then when people bump into
01:04:35.120
them at the local liquor market, they go, Hey, how do you feel about that girl got punched in the
01:04:38.760
face? What if that was your daughter? I was saying for a long time, Sheila, the board should go and
01:04:44.160
pull shifts in these stores to see what it's like. You know, that's a great point. Name and shame
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these people. I mean, they, they really they're, they're in charge, you know, that that's who's the
01:04:54.320
boss here. That's who's accountable. Um, and like you said, if this were a private industry,
01:04:59.260
there'd be all kinds of trouble and you'd be hearing it from the government.
01:05:04.020
If a licensed premises and they get their license from the same liquor board,
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the licensed premises kept reporting. We're having booze stolen from behind the bar. People just walk
01:05:14.260
by in the bar, stealing the bottles and walking out. They would have punched from the bars I've
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worked in and managed. They would have punched our ticket. They would have closed us down.
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Yeah. Period. Period. End of story. The only people can get away with having their liquor stolen
01:05:29.300
is the goddamn government. Marty, we're coming up on an hour here. Um, I got to thank you for
01:05:35.960
coming on the show. You're always so generous with your time. Um, we love your passion for the Jewish
01:05:41.620
people, for the news, but also for the little guy. Um, and I feel like that's the perfect encapsulation
01:05:48.880
of what Manitoba and specifically Winnipeg needs right now. Um, I really appreciate,
01:05:53.840
I appreciate your kind words and I appreciate, you know, I hear from the audience on Twitter,
01:05:57.260
people retweet the, the, you know, clips that have been put up. All of it means a lot to me. Uh, I,
01:06:03.880
uh, I do my best in, in challenging circumstance in Winnipeg. There's not the kind of support you'd
01:06:09.920
think for independent media voices here because it's such ultimately it's a small community.
01:06:14.580
Everybody's like naming names. Media won't do it. I'm the kind of guy that does it.
01:06:18.180
And one of the reasons that I do it is because I know that there's a strong contingent out there,
01:06:23.000
not just in Winnipeg and Manitoba, but across the country that wants to see things done right.
01:06:27.700
That wants to see accountability and transparency, especially out of government. And the wants the
01:06:32.600
certain kinds of truths, you know, not whispered, but told a little louder. And that's what I try to
01:06:38.160
do. And, and, uh, uh, hopefully I'll be on with you. If it's not before Hanukkah, it's after Hanukkah,
01:06:43.120
I'm going to have to try to dig up a menorah or something that a little differently. And I'll pull
01:06:47.680
Jesse Ventura and Jimmy Hart and put a menorah up. And I appreciate, I appreciate you having me on
01:06:52.540
and give me a chance to talk about what's going on here in the Keystone province.
01:06:57.500
Yeah. You know, Manitoba matters. You know, there are things going on in Saskatchewan. There
01:07:01.400
are things going on in Alberta. Toronto thinks you're the center of the universe. Uh, sounds like,
01:07:06.120
uh, Montreal is a hotbed for antisemitism right now, but Winnipeg matters and you shouldn't be
01:07:11.880
treated like flyover country. So I'm happy to have you on and give you all the time you need.
01:07:15.220
Thanks so much. You got it, Marty. We'll talk again.
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Imagine spending thousands of dollars every year to send your child to what you think
01:07:33.000
is a good Canadian school so that they can get a high value education only to have your child
01:07:39.240
discriminated against and lose opportunities because they believe the state of Israel simply
01:07:45.240
has the right to exist. That's the state of many Canadian campuses and it is spreading. And it's
01:07:52.320
time we all started paying attention to the problem. Well, everybody, that's the show for tonight.
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Thank you so much for tuning in. I'll see everybody back here in the same time,
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don't let the government tell you that you've had too much to think.