A woman escapes ISIS only to meet one of her torturers on a bus in Canada. Why should others go to jail when you won t give them a chance to apply for asylum in Canada? Ezra Levenkamp explains why Canada should be doing more to help the Yazidis.
00:00:00.000Tonight, a woman escapes ISIS only to meet one of her torturers on a bus in Canada.
00:00:05.620It's June 26th and you're watching The Ezra LeVant Show.
00:00:14.180Why should others go to jail when you're a biggest carbon consumer I know?
00:00:18.000There's 8,500 customers here and you won't give them an answer.
00:00:21.700You come here once a year with a sign and you feel morally superior.
00:00:24.660The only thing I have to say to the government about why I publish it is because it's my bloody right to do so.
00:00:35.380Canadians like to help. It's part of our national DNA and that includes taking genuine refugees.
00:00:42.220According to the UN definition of that term, that's people who have an imminent danger of being persecuted by virtue of their race or religion.
00:00:50.520It doesn't mean economic migrants and it doesn't mean the persecutors too.
00:00:57.020Joining us now via Skype is our friend Barbara Kay with a terrifying story of how Canada has taken in both the wolves and the lambs from Syria and Iraq.
00:04:42.040I think it's impossible to do the kind of serious vetting.
00:04:46.320When you're bringing in people by the thousands, it's very difficult to do the kind of vetting that would allow you to separate, you know, the lambs from the wolves.
00:04:55.380So I heard a similar story on Sunday when I went to an educational meeting about the Yazidi situation.
00:05:03.900And there I met two Yazidi women from London and the priest and counselor who had come with them who interpreted for me as they told me their stories.
00:05:15.300And one I wrote about in my column this week.
00:05:18.900And it was a pretty gruesome story, very much along the lines of what you just told me.
00:05:24.800And she, in August 2014, when the Islamic State came for the Yazidis, she and her two little children, she was 29 at the time, were separated from the men.
00:05:40.380She never saw her father-in-law and her husband again.
00:05:43.340They were doubtless killed almost immediately.
00:05:59.900And she, too, for months and months and months, she was sold back and forth to many, many men.
00:06:08.040And the man who organized the auction, the man who organized the sales of the girls and women, she was also his sex slave for a while, too.
00:06:22.320So eventually, it's quite a long story, but eventually she did manage to escape, to return to Kurdistan, to her relatives there, and eventually to come to Canada with her children.
00:06:33.900I met her, I spoke to her for about an hour, and she told me that recently she was on a bus in London, Ontario, and she was shocked and horrified to see that the man who had organized the sex slavery ring that she had been a part of was sitting on the same bus.
00:06:52.480She got off the bus, she got off the bus, he got off at the same stop, she stared at him, he stared back at her, realized who she was, covered his face and ran away.
00:07:01.840She immediately went to the refugee center to tell the people there what had happened.
00:07:08.740She told them, she told them his name, his real name, and his Islamic State name.
00:07:15.520And their response was, oh, you've been very traumatized, you can't trust yourself to have recognized him with reliability.
00:07:25.640And they also said, according to her, this woman or the person said to her, don't tell anyone.
00:09:30.560I think it starred Dustin Hoffman called The Marathon Man where, where a Nazi concentration camp guard finds himself in New York and he's walking down the street and his survive, the victim survivors of the concentration camp spot him on the street.
00:09:51.000And, and yet your story is shocking and horrifying, but we know that more than a hundred, well, we estimate it's more than a hundred.
00:09:59.140We know for a fact 60 Islamic State terrorists have come back to Canada without prosecution.
00:10:06.000We know the New York Times recently had an extended podcast interview with one of them boasting, not just about rape, but about murder.
00:10:15.500And there with impunity here, how can that be?
00:10:19.620I mean, I understand people would say, well, how do we prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a rape was committed, that a murder was committed?
00:10:26.540But you don't have to prove that our, our criminal code had special amendments after 9-11 that simply supporting a terrorist group, going to support a terrorist group, flying to a terrorist group, all of those are serious offenses.
00:10:41.080You don't even have to prove, because how could you possibly prove beyond a reasonable doubt what happened in a rape slave camp in Iraq?
00:10:48.240But you can prove that he was there as a terrorist.
00:10:58.840This government seems very, very reluctant to probe or to, to get into the business of truly fighting back against, I mean, their idea of what to do with, with people who go and fight for Islamic State is to send them through a de-radical,
00:11:19.260This is a very unrealistic government, Ezra, and a government that is not serious about helping the true victims.
00:11:26.960The Yazidi people, by the way, they, a few hundred have been brought over here, but the government has no plans to bring any more in, in 2018.
00:11:36.260And I, I'm just baffled by why that should be.
00:11:39.820These are the true, they, these people cannot go back there.
00:11:43.540They're, they're, they're being persecuted exactly as you say, the Jews were in, in, in, uh, Germany.
00:11:50.460They are, uh, sure, uh, Syrian refugees, very important to help them if they are displaced by, by war.
00:11:59.540Uh, but these, these people need more than help.
00:12:01.560They need to survive and they are on the brink.
00:12:04.820I mean, these are very small numbers, these people, and these are true victims that have not been fighting with anybody and don't want to fight with anybody.
00:12:22.720You know, uh, I mentioned when I was in Germany and I met this, this, I was at this, um, sort of retreat where these rape slaves were being rehabilitated.
00:12:31.780Um, I was also in Cologne, Germany, a fairly large city, and I was going down a very Muslim street, just talking to Muslims.