Abortion, Dysgenics, Collapse & Drama - Jim Goad
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1 hour and 20 minutes
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197.1624
Summary
Jim Goad is back on the show, and we have plenty to talk about. We talk about the current state of the world, the abortion debate, and the possibility that the world is about to fall apart.
Transcript
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Hope you're having a wonderful day wherever you are, whenever you're tuning into this.
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Things have certainly improved since we spoke last time with Jim.
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We're basically like an inch away from like a certain death, basically.
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I forget when it was, a year ago, maybe even more since we last spoke?
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Maybe even a little more, but it's like, I mean, I think since the last time I spoke to you,
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I stopped writing for Tacky's and write for Countercurrents now.
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That's why I wanted to have you on, by the way.
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You wrote an excellent piece on the abortion issue.
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Yeah, and then the world started ending with the pandemic or whatever that was in the summer
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of Floyd and now inflation and the nuclear war.
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It's Hemingway's suddenly or gradually than all of a sudden.
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We're at the all of a sudden moment of the world falling apart.
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But, you know, I think I used to be a lot more anxious than I am now.
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I kind of feel in the same way, in some weird way.
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And I guess I'm not certain like how close we actually are to like real existential danger.
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And many days, my rational brain kind of understands that.
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I don't I mean, I've been around obviously a long time.
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I don't remember any time where the entire public has been gaslit for so long.
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I'm surprised there haven't been more riots and violent.
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I mean, yeah, I don't know if it's learned helplessness.
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If people don't think there's at this point, they've just given up.
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But man, if people get angry again, it's going to be really scary.
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If you start messing with the food supply and with, you know, it's one of the things I want
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Even even goddamn baby formula is like running out like what this is literally like begging
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like, please, please, you know, go to our power center or centers of power and like drag
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us out of these buildings and like, you know, I don't put us in the gallows or something.
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I mean, he's I suppose he was Jewish, but Abraham Maslow was a psychologist.
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He came up with this idea of the hierarchy of needs and it's sort of like a pyramid where
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at the bottom, the basic needs, food, shelter, then you get up to, you know, philosophy, self
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I always say, you know, when will things change when people get hungry?
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And also when the pills run out, everyone's so fucking medicated that you want some riots.
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I mean, the people on antidepressants and painkillers when that there's a shortage of
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Who cares about self actualization or feeling like if you're hungry?
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I guess it's a basic need is actually like the fundament.
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Like if you don't have that, everything will fall over essentially topple over.
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And I mean, I remember even hearing this is years ago now, but like when the alt right
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was kind of like in its peak in a way, there was buzz and Trump had, I think, just gotten
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And you have the editor of the Atlantic magazine.
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He's saying that together with a bunch of other people.
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There's some journalists that just had, you know, basically graduated, but she started
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But anyway, they're sitting there and talking about like, how do we prevent from like something
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like the alt right from ever, you know, kind of becoming larger or like it's as dangerous.
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Should we be afraid the far right is on the rise?
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And I remember Goldberg, the editor in chief at the Atlantic, basically says, no, basically
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we still, as long as we're providing, you know, basically like, you know, carousels and
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But again, entertainment, even sports now they've ruined with all the BLM, you know, crap.
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So it's like, what do they want us to like fight back?
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You know, the only sport I watch is boxing and they haven't been able to make that woke
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And I mean, in the 80s and when I was a kid in the 70s, when Ali fought Frazier, there
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There are four different divisions, like the heavyweight division in pro boxing, there's
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four different belts, four different sanctioning bodies.
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So the best boxers in the world right now are white.
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Alexander Usyk from Ukraine, crazy talented boxer.
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He was right before, I think, Floyd Patterson beat him or something.
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And then came Sonny Liston, who was a complete thug.
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But yeah, there was a good 30 years you couldn't find a good white boxer.
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You can't really make beating someone else's head in sensitive.
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It's just in the format itself, it's just masculinity.
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And slug out the other guy until he's unconscious.
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But again, I'm surprised I'm trying to ruin it because all the BLM, I mean, stuff have
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We'll get into a little bit more detail about that here.
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He went because if you know his history, he was raised by pretty liberal Christian missionaries
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But he remembers, even though this, you know, he was biased that way or had been taught to
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I think it was to Floyd Patterson or Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson.
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Johansson won the title by defeating Floyd Patterson via third round stoppage.
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But whoever beat him, I think it was probably Sonny Liston if this is the time frame.
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But Jared Taylor, even though he'd been taught not to think racially, he didn't like that
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And I remember even like when I was like in my teens and had been absorbed all the TV
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sitcoms and everything you learn, they don't even admit that they're teaching you on TV.
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Like even counterintuitively, there'd be that instinct.
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You know, alignment with your group, with your ethnic, you know, belonging, basically.
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Even though you've been scolded and frightened into thinking it's bad.
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They've got a Swede right now, Robert Hellenius, H-E-L-E-N-I-U-S.
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I've not followed boxing, but that's interesting.
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But this is like just pure, like the, like what do you call it?
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Just, just fisticuffs, Marcus of Queensbury rules.
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But yeah, Orthodox stance in, in boxing is, is right-handed and Southpaw is left-handed.
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Which does give me an advantage because people don't expect to be hit from that angle.
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Just genetic, because we're like what, 8% of the population.
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Now, I have to say first, and you know, a lot to break down here, right?
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But my, as, as it's been kind of unfolding, you know, my, as with all things, my position
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You're like, especially when you see the, the kind of spurgs that are like protesting
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And it's like, is this really the people we want to reproduce kind of thing?
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But your article was great because it was titled, An Extra 20 Million George Floyd.
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So, break that down for us and explain what you talk about in the article.
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I, I mean, it's such an emotionally laden topic.
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I can't get worked up either way about abortion because I think it's murder.
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Well, you know, I know people that are in their fifties who aren't viable and can't like
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survive without support and someone wiping their bottoms and everything.
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Um, so, I mean, I think that's why the left has a problem with it because they don't
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As my brother tells me the story, and I know I, I've told this story many times, but
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number one, I'm senile, but number two, it's apropos of the topic.
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As the, the story was related to me, my, my dad punched my mom in the stomach trying to
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So I guess at least in that one case, I'm against abortion.
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Uh, but yeah, it's, I mean, the, and the rhetoric behind it choice, the man has no choice
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He has no choice like to, uh, avoid jail if he doesn't pay child support.
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And I know that the mystical, traditional spiritual right thinks it's an abomination.
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But I, you know, I wanted to look at it mathematically.
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And the fact is, and maybe, you know, Margaret Sanger was onto something, but I think per capita,
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three times as many black babies are aborted than white babies.
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I mean, that's a, yeah, I don't know if you can do a retroactive abortion, but there's
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But, and I did an article about abortion in 2014.
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At that time, there were an estimated 20 million black fetuses aborted from 1973 to 2014.
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So basically, if there had been no abortion, I mean, there'd be the back alley abortions
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But what we'd be looking at is like a 20 or 30 million extra George Floyds.
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And it's something to, I mean, as, as conservative and traditional as you want, that would probably
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We need some people who are able to do physics and calculus.
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And like, I mean, literally she's bragging about lunatic.
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Like, I mean, obviously this is like an effigy or whatever you want to call it, the doll.
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But she's like, you know, some dragging it out of her stomach and then beating it against
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I've been over this on some shows, but if we have like, you know, newcomers tuning in
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and just, you know, listening to this show, obviously I don't like the industry around
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I got to blur this out or something, but it's a spread Eagle here.
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But anyway, um, um, I don't like the whole industry around it.
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And you know, the, I think it's, it is being used.
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Like there's a whole field around this, which has been, been built up.
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But if you look at it again, as you said, kind of cold and mathematically, it's like, look,
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we, you could argue, you know, are we overpopulated?
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We're not, uh, many people say we're not, but, but if, if we don't do anything about
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it, obviously we will be because of our success at some point.
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Do we have to go right up until the very edge of like being, oh, now we're basically overpopulated.
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So now it's okay to, to tackle this question as opposed to doing it, you know, kind of
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Um, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to live like this, you know, like that.
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I, I, I, you know, Sweden is a big country for this population numbers, but I'm traveling
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I want to, you know, uh, where I can go distances without human development and stuff like that.
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And it's not because I'm anti-human or anything like that.
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I'm just trying to realistically look at this, you know what I mean?
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And if you're into eugenics at all, I suppose, you know, abortion serves a purpose.
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I mean, there, I, I also, I mean, but there's, I, in my life, I think I've created one fetus
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It was to a girlfriend shortly after I got out of the joint, she wouldn't have been a
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I remember coming home from work and she's throwing up into some paper bag cause the abortion
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But I've known girls who just, who thought it was cool.
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To get abortions, which is sort of, that's where our culture is now.
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And again, I think that's the, obviously the rational, emotional, correct, you know, if
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anybody to have somewhat of a moral compass, and I know you've made the point before on
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It's not whether, uh, it's, um, uh, right or wrong, but it's whether it's, uh, true or
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People feel, you know, they feel bad, their emotions, you know, comfort, they spring from
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A sense like, you know, if you see one of these like fetuses crawling around in a bucket, you
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Like, I, I, I, that's probably pretty difficult to, to, to see, you know what I mean?
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But, um, I think the discussion is framed in the wrong kind of way of, because really
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women, as far as women concern, why aren't they taught about their cycles?
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It's basically like a period of like three days or something like that.
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You know, what, like what kind of another thing I put in this article at this point,
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like if you're an adult, because you still have people going into hospitals, nine months
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And if, you know, at this point though, like there are morning after there are condoms,
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there's contrast, you know, there's the pill, there's the morning after pill.
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If you don't have ethical problems with that, but there's really no need for abortion really.
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But the, uh, what I was thinking before is like the girls I knew who thought abortion
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And I think they were compensating by acting like it was cool, but I've never known a woman
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to become suddenly sane by squeezing a baby out either.
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You know, I don't know if it messes them up more or less.
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I think I have, you could argue in a way that like when they all of a sudden were responsible
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for something outside of themselves, they did actually lose some of their crazy tendencies
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and they're like, they had to straighten out essentially, right?
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Because now they're responsible for someone else.
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I think there's something that could be argued generally, right?
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I think that that's true that women and even men, they generally get more conservative,
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traditionally minded when they start getting kids, right?
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It's a spectrum or they, you know, they start hitting their kid.
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I mean, there's, there's a whole rainbow of possible experiences.
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That's why, you know, I don't identify as concerned.
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It's like, well, you must've come from a good one because there, there are bad ones
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I mean, I could go with, like I said, in my case, but if the kid's unwanted and doesn't
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I'm not sure which is more ethical, just aborting the fetus or letting them grow up in that
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Because it's also something to be said for like these miserable people and their lives
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Like, let me play one clip as an example, right?
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You might not have seen this yet, but here's another lunatic here.
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I didn't, I hadn't seen the black abortion show.
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That one is a, that one is a good one, but I do have another one here.
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Let me just find the audio so we can also hear this real quick here.
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But it's this idea of like, what do they call it?
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That if one crab is trying to get out of the bucket, they grab it just to pull you kind of
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And that's kind of the sense I get from this woman here.
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My, as I said before, my mother didn't have a choice.
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If she had a choice, she would have made different decisions and I might not have been here.
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But rather than she having a choice, a choice was made for her because she didn't have it.
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And she brought treatment into the world that she didn't want.
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It's such semantic nonsense because, I mean, I think that they're not pro-life, pro-choice,
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Like that's, because like I said, if, if I accidentally knock someone up, I have no choice.
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I have no, you know, no choice not to pay child, none of that stuff.
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But a lot of these are just annoying, neurotic women who, and I wrote an intro.
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I'm doing a reprint of this magazine I did in the nineties, but you know, I, and I talk
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about what's changed since the nineties, but the internet really made me realize how easily
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I always knew they were easily led, but when you see the same people spouting the same
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and, you know, all of a sudden they all like Ukraine and all of a sudden, you know, they
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It's, it's, and I think, you know, that, that sort of memification of everything happens
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And you have people that are just, just as easily led.
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I mean, abortion, I guess it, it has its, its place.
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I think, again, from my point of view, I would want to rephrase it because I am generally
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Again, there's a, I mean, a very, it's a very small cases, right?
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Of rape or incest, you know, things like that, or something is terribly wrong in this life
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is just going to be like suffering and misery and stuff like that.
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I mean, you're going to have to add like these surveys, you're going to have to assume that
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the women are getting the abortions are being honest, but apparently rape and incest are
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In other words, like they, they're treating abortion as a, as a contraception, contraceptive
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It's like, you know, poor people or the unemployed, they'll use, you know, emergency rooms and
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No penis in vagina, like three days a month or whatever, you know, something like that.
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Like, isn't that, and if they're so goddamn adamant about like killing these babies, right?
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Like that way, you know, you won't kill innocent babies and these miserable people who hate
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I mean, that's, that's a tantalizing proposition, but try like not having cities burned down.
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I mean, like people are afraid to do anything because people will burn things down or, you
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know, harass them and scare them and run them out of their house and like what happened
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And it was understood a couple of decades ago that that's unethical and like no world
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can operate when we're just going to let the hotheads rule everything because they
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It's not just a mob reacting like spontaneously.
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People, they're so, they're depressingly easily led and whether they think so.
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I mean, I think it's probably humiliating to admit that.
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And most people probably aren't intelligent enough to even realize it, even if you explain
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I think it was Mark Twain who said it's easier to, uh, to swindle somebody, to lie to somebody
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2020, George Floyd, Biden, Harris, all that stuff.
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Then mask on, you know, shot in the arm and then straight to Ukraine.
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And now it's like, you know, now it's the, the, the abortion issue.
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And, and of course that also means that all the previous things, which were big stories,
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like landmark, like historical things, such as the pandemic or, you know, it's just basically
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I mean, it's just like, well, that's it moving on.
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People, uh, and this is, this is another reason I regret becoming a writer.
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I really thought that most people were like me because as arrogant as I am and as right
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as I think I am 98% of the time, like a lot of times it's like, oh, I never considered
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Like, yeah, yeah, there's a, there's an extra piece of the puzzle.
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Most people have that sort of dumb pride that they'd rather, they'd rather double down,
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triple down, quadruple down on, on the deception rather than say, I was fooled.
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That would be too, uh, too much for them to be honest.
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Um, so you have, what is, what's going on in this picture?
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The, just the cruel, almost, I mean, I'm not going to say satanic, but like monstrous
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or demonic, like tendencies of some of these women that are like gloating.
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Oh, I didn't know what that, uh, so she's got like a psychotic serial killer infant fetus
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Yeah, stabbed through the, like, this is, and that's, I guess her, a tattoo that she put
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But you always wonder, like, I got one stupid tattoo here and it had a girl's name on it
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and I always like, just so I don't look like a complete idiot, I always tell people she
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got my name first, but like, I always wonder, like if she, if she makes it to 80, I know.
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Like, you know, I mean, as you said, the realistic possibility of this, but again, I'm like, well,
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if the, if, if this is, how is it that you can have someone who can, you know, want to,
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they're calling somebody or like, Hey man, I'm, I'm thinking about like blowing up a
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building or I'm going to go kill someone, right?
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You're not like, you're not allowed to communicate those kinds of things, right?
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I think it's like, if I, I'm thinking about it, I think that's one thing.
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So, but it's still, it's not a direct, like, you know, at eight o'clock, I'm going to go
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I think that's when it becomes a terroristic threat.
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But, but in a way it is kind of like a pre crime thing, right?
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Like, okay, how does it happen to you technically, but the person says that they're going to
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do it, you know, that's still within the realm of pre crime.
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But my point is like, you know, you could argue and it's a little stretch maybe, but
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you could argue in a way, like if all these women are talking about like how we're going
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to like, I'm going to murder babies because I get off on that.
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Like what gives them the right then to reproduce in a way, right?
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Like how do we know that they won't be like sadistic and actually go kill their babies
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That's what I meant earlier when I said like, I've known women who seem like they were, I mean,
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I've known rape victims who were messed up by being raped, uh, women who were definitely
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messed up by killing their own fetuses, but known women who've had eight kids and were
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Some of them is the strain of like childbirth gives them an aneurysm or something because
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My experience has been kind of the opposite for the most part, but, uh, no, I mean, I've
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of course at this point, anything's possible, right?
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There's a great book called, uh, when she was bad.
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She has a really compelling chapter about a sudden infant death syndrome, which where
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there's this phenomenon that suddenly erupted in the seventies and eighties where all these
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babies were just, you know, uh, the, the mom went to brush her teeth.
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She said there's no evidence that there's any kind of, uh, any kind of medical condition
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And that, I mean, there are statistics, uh, as far as violence, I saw, I saw one stat
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like 80% of the person's, like an 80% of the cases of person's first exposure to violence
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And it's like, it's, I don't think it's pornography or the patriarchy or, you know,
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It's, I think it's being hit by your mom, perhaps.
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Like these, these constructions, like racism, sexism, it's, they're brilliantly constructed
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cause it's, they imply that they couldn't like women or non-whites could possibly do
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They have a complete like orb force field of innocence around them.
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Cause that there, you will have, that will like invite all the psychopaths in that group
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And I just provided you with a great segue to that other story.
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We have a, we have a bunch of things we want to get into.
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Last thing I want to mention about the abortion thing here.
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And, you know, we kind of imply, you know, the, the demographics and stuff, right.
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But like, you know, just, just look at something like this, right.
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10,000 years of, of human activity and we have a parabolic growth, right.
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Like deep, you know, uh, overpopulations, a globalist talking point.
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Uh, but the point is that doesn't mean that they're wrong.
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I just don't want they to be the ones who choose it.
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They, they're sadistic and they would like, obviously go for a dysgenic approach as opposed
00:25:52.260
But I mean, I have, but how is this, look at this.
00:25:54.720
How, how is this, you know, where do we go from here?
00:26:00.140
Another, another, well, you know, the, the disadvantage of being born in 1961 is that
00:26:09.120
I remember in the seventies, it was called ZPG.
00:26:19.640
What was it, Paul Ehrlich, the population bomb?
00:26:22.080
And you had the, uh, club of Rome, the limits to growth, you know, these kinds of publications
00:26:27.400
If you believe, you know, people create pollution and climate change, like more people just,
00:26:33.280
and especially in Africa is going to create more pollution.
00:26:36.640
My hunch, why the left started, stopped talking about overpopulation.
00:26:42.380
They looked at the charts and saw where all the population growth was.
00:26:45.840
And it's like, I guess, thought it would be racist to be against overpopulation because
00:26:49.760
it's not increasing in Europe or, you know, it's, you look at the map, we're going to
00:26:59.300
I think Steve Saylor like predicted 4 billion by the end of the century.
00:27:05.680
And of course, ironically, that's because of Western advancements, right?
00:27:08.960
I mean, these societies wouldn't be where they are without that.
00:27:11.300
And again, intervention where, I mean, I'm not saying, again, this is not about moral
00:27:16.160
It's just looking at it like in cold, hard, like facts and numbers.
00:27:18.840
And at the end, because at the end of the day, it's like, well, it's, it's, we might
00:27:25.660
And it's like, it's either our kids or it's, or it's their kids, you know, in a way.
00:27:29.960
Especially now, because I think we're, you know, yes, I know that the shortages and they're,
00:27:34.180
it's very artificial and they're seeking to use this to kind of reform society.
00:27:38.020
But, but it's anybody with a brain can look at this and just realize like, look, at some
00:27:44.420
point we have where there's a limitation to how much, how many mouths we can feed and what's
00:27:49.140
going to, is everyone going to live a first world lifestyle and, you know, have three cars
00:27:53.300
and, you know, a huge house and a boat and like, it's just not going to work.
00:27:57.780
And so at some point we have to make hard decisions.
00:28:00.120
And I prefer us to do that, take them now as opposed to wait and be passive and let, just,
00:28:05.600
just haul this off onto our kids or our grandkids, Jim.
00:28:10.480
No, it's, I mean, this is going to be an unpopular take too.
00:28:14.820
I think a flaw of human psychology is thinking there's an answer to everything or thinking
00:28:20.660
that we're, we're smart enough to figure it out.
00:28:22.780
I'm not smart enough to figure out how to cure overpopulation or the demographics problem.
00:28:27.040
Maybe someone else is, but there might not be an answer.
00:28:30.340
Well, I'm not sure abortion is the biggest problem we have right now.
00:28:35.340
So it's the people who haven't been aborted, the biggest problem now.
00:28:42.480
Again, I don't, I don't, I don't like the abortion.
00:28:45.860
It's the ones who slipped through the, the goalie.
00:28:49.560
No, again, I think, I think it's about, uh, I guess the kind of, there, there is such a
00:28:54.520
thing as, and it might be, I mean, to some that will just deny this and it sounds so contradictory
00:28:58.480
is just ridiculous, but like compassionate oriented eugenics.
00:29:03.120
Like what, if we can improve the human species overall, why would we not want to do that?
00:29:14.440
The only, you know, right thing to do, morally correct thing to do is to have as many, you
00:29:19.620
know, I don't mean to offend about it out there, but as many retards and dependent people
00:29:23.500
as possible, that's going to make things better, right?
00:29:26.540
Like, like, come on, you know, you know what I mean?
00:29:29.500
I mean, the Nazis, like, uh, they get blamed for a lot of things and they, uh, I mean,
00:29:33.940
you, you can't talk about any of those things, or you can't even talk about, I guess, like
00:29:37.840
by outgunning the Nazis, the Russians in the West, uh, this is, this is amazing to me.
00:29:45.580
They think that wars actually solve ideological problems.
00:29:48.800
The only things that wars solve is like, who was the better fighter, you know, and who had
00:29:54.160
But like whoever wins gets to decide what's right and wrong.
00:29:57.240
So any ideas the Nazis had, you'll be killed for.
00:30:01.160
That's, that's just always been the way it works.
00:30:09.680
He, uh, we were, we had each other's phone numbers talked, you know, once a week for,
00:30:14.420
but, uh, he had me on his show in late 2018 and he, uh, it was when my book whiteness,
00:30:19.280
the original sin came out and he was real skeptical that there's this concerted or that there's
00:30:25.960
even like a preponderance of anti-white rhetoric in the media, which is astonishing.
00:30:32.320
But the last thing he asked me and Michael Malice is this little Ukrainian Jewish guy.
00:30:37.820
He asked me if I thought that, uh, that Hitler gets a bad rap in the press and maybe this
00:30:42.960
was set up as a trap, you know, but he, I said, of course he does.
00:30:55.360
Like whoever loses a war is, of course, exactly.
00:31:00.260
No, they're totally fair and objective when it comes to this issue.
00:31:03.700
But it's, it's just this principle that the bad guys always lose.
00:31:12.120
The Confederates were the bad guys and they lost.
00:31:14.620
And I guess, I mean, they, they revise that when it's, well, you know, it's, you never
00:31:27.080
It's only like white people who get, but shouldn't they, shouldn't, shouldn't one of the arguments
00:31:30.920
be, well, why did they not open their arms to diversity and, you know, multiculturalism
00:31:36.100
They, I have to tell you, like, I'll give it to them more than current white people in America.
00:31:44.940
At least they did that as I'm, as I'm, you know, some balls in there.
00:31:49.580
Here's, I mean, yeah, I've told this story before, so I'm not, I mean, Gavin's a friend
00:31:54.200
and, uh, but the first night I met him, I was with this girl who was parked Cherokee.
00:32:06.440
This girl liked to drink and, uh, he's sloshed and she's sitting next to me.
00:32:14.240
It's like, you, you never could figure out the wheel.
00:32:19.340
But you couldn't start with an octagon and then chip away and man, did she get pissed
00:32:26.120
But that's, that's kind of what made me just realistic.
00:32:28.640
It's like, yeah, you know, there, there are, there's unfairness in the world, I guess,
00:32:36.000
But, uh, the reason I think some of these oppressed indigenous people, people were overtaken
00:32:45.160
is they didn't know how to defend what they had.
00:32:49.180
They didn't have the technology, you know, it's, again, it's not right and wrong.
00:32:52.380
It's like, who has, like, who had guns and who had sticks?
00:32:59.540
Like, you look at the rules of nature and there's no referee, no one's going to come
00:33:05.480
You know, it's just like, no, it's ruthless, it's brutal, and it's a survival game at the
00:33:10.760
But the fact is, if you get your, well, that's why they call it pathological altruism, right?
00:33:15.260
You're so, you know, you care so much about everyone else that, like, yeah, you will be
00:33:19.020
replaced or you'll be removed or killed or whatever.
00:33:21.920
I mean, you could argue the same thing of, like, the person who's, like, an instinctual
00:33:25.740
He's walking alone on the streets and there's a gang in front of him.
00:33:28.320
But, oh, one of these, it looks like it's just a bunch of, you know, black guys or in
00:33:34.720
But you're not allowed to, like, cross the street and go, you know, or, like, dodge off because
00:33:39.240
they, what if they get offended because they think you're a racist or something?
00:33:44.620
And actually, there's a Michael Malice element in that one, too.
00:33:47.880
This is like, I did, it's in my Whiteness Original Sin book.
00:33:52.860
I was in Brooklyn and I had to meet Michael for dinner, had to walk like a mile on dark
00:33:59.620
And I'm walking along and I really, I mean, New York's supposed to be a first world city,
00:34:03.720
but some of these streets are really dark and poorly lit.
00:34:06.020
And I'm walking and all of a sudden, my peripheral vision, I see there's a black
00:34:09.220
guy walking about four to five feet to my right, but kind of keeping pace with me.
00:34:13.460
Your first instinct is to think, all right, just a coincidence.
00:34:21.960
I crossed the street and he's still tailing me.
00:34:37.200
Like, so I'm thinking, okay, I'm being set up for some kind of ambush.
00:34:47.540
I did a whole article about Kensington a few months back.
00:34:49.840
Uh, it's like the heroin, biggest heroin open air market in the United States now.
00:34:55.740
But this guy, and he went on for like six or seven blocks.
00:34:58.720
I finally saw in Williamsburg, these two girls were closing up a bakery.
00:35:02.640
I'd walk up to them and the white guy, the white guy, the black guy's walking right next
00:35:07.680
And I'm like, look, I know this is weird and this is not your issue or whatever, but this
00:35:14.520
And like, well, you want to wait inside the bakery?
00:35:16.800
I'm like, no, you know, uh, like you want us to call the cops?
00:35:20.320
And I'm like, I don't know the minute they said cops, he bolted.
00:35:25.300
But the punchline or the real tragedy that was going on is I'm walking along thinking
00:35:30.160
I might be setting being set up for murder, but if this guy attacks me and I fight back,
00:35:38.100
you got the shaved head, that's from brain surgery, but how is it going to look?
00:35:44.560
Imagine you have to like just defending yourself.
00:35:47.140
You worry if you're going to become the next Derek Chauvin.
00:35:52.900
Like if something happens, we're out or something like, I just have to basically run because
00:35:56.960
if I like, oh, he's a, he was a neo-Nazi and he had, you know what I mean?
00:36:01.200
Like, and it doesn't even matter who the, I was defending myself against, you know?
00:36:04.700
Is it just that it's the current year that makes it a neo-Nazi or is there a different
00:36:08.620
Like, is there anything like, is it like new Coke or is like, is it, can you just, can you
00:36:21.580
This is astonishing because if you've ever seen any of the Rocky movies, this is where
00:36:27.640
There's a, Rocky 5's the one where he hires the, cause Rocky got brain damaged.
00:36:32.460
Imagine Sylvester Stallone trying, trying to sound dumber than he naturally sounds, but
00:36:38.220
So he, he hires a, uh, he becomes a pro is the protege is this young white boxer called
00:36:43.840
Tommy gun, who was actually Tommy Morrison, a blonde white guy from Tennessee who briefly
00:36:49.780
was the heavyweight champion in the early nineties.
00:36:51.960
But at the end, Rocky winds up fighting Tommy gun in the streets and you know, it's dark
00:36:57.280
and it's dingy, but you don't have tent cities and junkies shooting up and nodding out.
00:37:03.600
Kensington was always bad, but it's amazing how bad it is now.
00:37:08.020
I brought it up for the, you know, the New York reference there, obviously.
00:37:10.940
And again, I mean, it, it kind of harkens back to what we talked about that word, uh, 20
00:37:15.740
Like, is this, is this the future you just to, for conservatives to win again, I'm not
00:37:20.500
saying it's right or wrong or, you know, I'm not trying to make a moral value judgment.
00:37:24.740
I'm just saying this is the future we're looking at if we don't do anything about all
00:37:31.100
Cause they're, that's either like Frankfurt Avenue, Frankfurt Avenue or Kensington Avenue.
00:37:35.280
It was kind of like turns into one, but the, it's under the elevated subway.
00:37:40.820
There was a book written about it and I think it was 1968 called white town USA.
00:37:46.940
Uh, the dividing line, this street, the subway was a dividing line between almost entirely
00:37:52.740
Kensington in like 1968 was like 98% white, but these were like the descendants of Irish
00:37:58.400
and they were hardcore low class fighting whites.
00:38:03.160
And you, they, the blacks didn't, like they weren't caught in Kensington after sunset and
00:38:08.840
you sure as hell weren't white caught in the Philadelphia badlands, which were a buffer
00:38:13.560
zone between white Kensington badlands were the Puerto Rican neighborhoods, which were the
00:38:20.020
Like same thing in New York, the South Bronx, like it looks like Dresden after world war two,
00:38:25.880
I'm not sure like what the Puerto Ricans are doing wrong, but apparently I've known enough
00:38:36.180
But, um, uh, the thing is all those junkies you see, they're all interracial.
00:38:41.440
They're all living together and pooping on the streets and shooting up and dying.
00:38:45.760
You know, at least they're, they're, it's the future.
00:38:53.600
Everyone's equally miserable and like near death, you know?
00:38:57.000
Um, anyway, I want to bring it up this real quick here too, because I remember you, uh,
00:39:00.820
at the time you, you were, you know, you remember this, uh, I, I don't, I heard years later after
00:39:05.580
this, but Randy Weaver, uh, yesterday actually passed away at 74 years old.
00:39:08.940
And of course he's had the famous standoff with the FBI back in 1993, we said, was it?
00:39:28.660
Randy Weaver always looked like Jay Peterman to me, but I remember watching the congressional
00:39:33.600
hearings cause he got Jerry Spence, G G E R R Y S P E N C E as his lawyer.
00:39:40.700
He had one of those fringe jackets and kind of looked like a hippie, but never lost a case.
00:39:45.600
And just cause Jerry Spence, Jerry Spence wasn't a white separatist who sold shotguns to undercover
00:39:50.660
officers, but he realized how Randy Weaver's rights have been violated.
00:39:57.840
He's talking about them sending robots down with messages and he's talking about the feds
00:40:03.480
killing his, I think his dog, his wife, his kid.
00:40:08.660
I was almost pushed to tears cause it was like, man, this guy got, got rolled over bad.
00:40:13.160
And we were talking before filming, like Waco was like within nine months of this.
00:40:17.380
These were super hard fed flexes, like in the early nineties.
00:40:22.060
To, to, to show you of what, like what is to come.
00:40:24.660
Because then you had what happened after the first, wait a minute, remind me again, when
00:40:29.360
was the first Gulf war was that 93 that that broke out?
00:40:42.180
And when it was amazing, like his, his, the first Bush and his approval rating went up
00:40:45.820
to like over 90, which I don't think any president ever had right after we bombed Kuwait
00:40:52.040
and rolled over, you know, and, and marched towards Baghdad or whatever.
00:40:55.460
Well, you saved all those babies from the, uh, being thrown on the floor from the incubators.
00:41:01.900
I mean, it only took him like a year and a half to, to like lose to Bill Clinton.
00:41:12.360
I mean, again, that was obviously to advance, you know, foreign policy and, you know, you
00:41:16.020
could very well argue that's like, yeah, essentially on behalf of the neocons in Israel in this,
00:41:22.020
But you had that, you know, like, oh, it's the, the Muslims, right.
00:41:25.660
And all these government things comes into place to like fight off the bad guy.
00:41:32.300
I remember people talking about it at the time, like, look, the department of Homeland Security,
00:41:36.400
like all these things are Orwellian crazy shit.
00:41:38.720
You don't want to have anything like this because eventually it will be turned against
00:41:44.280
And, and just like with that, like I, the true and false over right and wrong, but like
00:41:49.460
when nine 11 happened and not that I think America is uniquely evil, I think America
00:41:54.320
is obviously an empire like this far from completely collapsing.
00:41:59.580
But my thought was, Hey, the U S went in and bombed the hell and the economic sanctions
00:42:04.620
on Iraq, a million Iraqi women and children died between the first Gulf war and nine 11.
00:42:14.080
And it's, it's not in this term of, well, we're the good guys and they deserve, it's
00:42:17.020
like, it does cause and effect just like these.
00:42:19.600
And I talked to these people who should know better.
00:42:22.900
I'm like, so you believe whatever you're told, like, you don't think that there was
00:42:26.640
cause and effect and this is a power struggle, you know, NATO and.
00:42:31.220
And I don't even believe that like the official, I think it's a gay off from government.
00:42:35.600
Essentially the very least they allowed it to happen.
00:42:40.860
The whole out of story in Florida and like the flight school program.
00:42:44.580
And you have like, you know, them, them standing down or just, I mean, there's so
00:42:48.880
many, there's too much you can do now, but there's so many questions.
00:42:51.320
When I was a kid in the sixties, I almost said the fifties, let's not date myself too
00:42:55.820
much, but I remember like, they didn't even call them Muslims.
00:43:05.540
And, uh, it was just, these were people you never heard of and there's okay.
00:43:10.140
There's obscure people who wear like gowns like it, but it wasn't a threat.
00:43:15.500
But, uh, I'm sure there was some cause and effect once the U S started supporting Israel
00:43:22.080
Like you ask a killer why they killed and they might just be a pathological liar, but
00:43:27.000
have you ever heard a Muslim terrorist say, well, we hate your freedom.
00:43:32.100
Like one it's always, well, it's the U S supports Israel and Israel, you know, the claiming
00:43:39.240
that they have a right to this ancestral land, even though they don't really look middle
00:43:43.080
Eastern came in and I always say like, I mean, we look like establishing Israel after world
00:43:49.620
war two, like Sylvester Stallone couldn't have come up with a more obvious plot for
00:43:55.960
It's like, okay, yeah, take the Jews and surround them on 800 miles on every side with people
00:44:01.440
whose holy book says they're swine and devils and, and see how that works out.
00:44:06.500
I mean, I've suggest, I mean, what Hitler said, Madagascar, right?
00:44:17.760
People stop to pee between Philly and Baltimore and DC, relocate the Jews to, to Delaware.
00:44:24.720
I mean, and you know, give a check to everyone who lives in Delaware now and let them have
00:44:36.180
What's, what's the latest on the Khazar theory?
00:44:38.280
Has that been entirely debunked or that one seemed to make sense to me?
00:44:42.320
I saw some pushback against it and, you know, there's, you know, genetic discussions, whether,
00:44:47.400
you know, you can find gene evidence or traces of this, but at least historically, I think
00:44:51.260
it's true that the, uh, they, they did, you know, convert.
00:44:54.760
I mean, recently you can say any people converted because it wasn't, it hasn't been with us.
00:44:59.140
Judaism or Christianity or any religion or belief system hasn't been with us from like
00:45:04.240
So everything, everyone has converted at some point, but regardless, I'm saying there was
00:45:08.120
like, uh, I guess one of the theories is right.
00:45:10.440
They were like actually an established like Jewish sect.
00:45:13.360
And then these Khazarians, which was more like, like a Turkic kind of people that later
00:45:20.780
And then that, uh, I mean, and some people like argue, well, and they're the bad guys
00:45:24.520
kind of thing, but you know, um, I mean, Ashkenazi, Sephardim, I mean, there's obviously
00:45:30.680
How amazing is it that like the dominant Jewish group has the word Nazi in their name?
00:45:46.360
But, uh, no, I think, you know, it's, it's interesting because like, you know, you have
00:45:53.520
It's just, I mean, we're this close to collapse, right?
00:45:56.620
Uh, and at, and at every single level of like the, the, you know, going back to that
00:46:02.440
There's a new wave of like the later, the current thing, right?
00:46:05.260
Whatever the current thing is, but magically every, you know, major story and advancement
00:46:10.560
like that kind of fits into the greater narrative, right?
00:46:13.540
We, people call it now the great reset that's kind of caught on, right?
00:46:17.760
You can call it the new world order, even whatever term you prefer, but that overarching,
00:46:21.500
like, you know, our world is being reformed in the, in, in their image, right?
00:46:27.900
I just, you know, as much as I'm against mind reading, I suspect most people truly believe
00:46:33.120
the news happens organically and they don't think it's chosen and sculpted for them, which
00:46:41.320
Cause like I, like I said earlier about Mark Twain, you cannot convince people they've been
00:46:51.940
I was out on the streets chanting and it was a lie.
00:46:57.400
They'll, uh, they'll fund, they'll run to the comfort of the lie before they face the
00:47:10.100
And, uh, I, I don't know anyone who thinks it's going to be good for America.
00:47:15.980
And now Finland and Sweden is going to be joining NATO, effectively putting a crosshairs on them,
00:47:22.860
Like you, if you are seeking to replay or, you know, exchange essentially the, the little
00:47:28.560
autonomy and so-called independence that we do have left.
00:47:31.180
Like we're already, like we have powerful forces that are trying to destroy our countries
00:47:35.080
and trying to replace, you know, the native population in these countries and so forth.
00:47:41.080
Joining NATO for the sake of security certainly is not going to do it.
00:47:44.460
And it's just going to polarize the world for further.
00:47:46.560
And we're literally, I mean, on the, and I showed you the article, we can return to this
00:47:50.140
a bit later than, but the, uh, Wall Street Journal, right?
00:47:54.800
Uh, the U S should show it can win a nuclear war, right?
00:48:01.240
As someone who like went through the cold war born in 1960, like I was born right around
00:48:05.480
the time of the Cuban missile crisis, all they drilled into your head.
00:48:14.660
This is what I, that's the propaganda I grew up with.
00:48:18.800
And you had to build a fallout shelter under your front lawn and, you know, hoard a hundred
00:48:24.620
thousand years worth of canned goods and everything.
00:48:28.320
But, uh, never back then do I remember any newspaper saying, well, we could win this.
00:48:39.620
It's, it's, I mean, the last two years of the entire world has been gaslit, but like,
00:48:44.280
that's kind of irresponsible to be talking about nuclear, these same people who will
00:48:49.480
like slay you for using the wrong pronoun are, are freely talking about nuclear war.
00:48:54.520
That's, that's, I don't know the words overused, but terrifying.
00:49:00.660
Words is violence, but we can actually antagonize and intentionally push the world to the brink
00:49:15.560
There's some footage, I guess, in this one here, but yeah, no, so they're, they're kind
00:49:18.180
of talking about here, um, Washington might study cold war era practices that had major
00:49:25.120
In other words, we got to ramp it up and scare them.
00:49:27.140
And on the other side of the flip side of that, Russia have said, like basically anybody
00:49:30.700
that messes with us, like we'll, we'll nuke you, you know, and, and they have like,
00:49:34.360
you know, pretty extraordinary capabilities right now as well.
00:49:40.400
I mean, uh, the hypersonic missiles, then they had the new, and I think they bring that
00:49:43.520
up in the beginning here too, the Sarmat, right?
00:49:46.100
The new type of, uh, intercontinental ballistic missile carrying a heavy nuclear payload.
00:49:51.480
And they've been testing that and stuff like that and warning, right?
00:49:54.220
But again, like, I mean, it's obvious that the U S NATO, the West and the extension and
00:49:58.580
those forces controlling the West, uh, is using Ukraine as a proxy.
00:50:02.360
If people really cared about Ukrainians and what happened, they would want to see an end
00:50:06.260
to this conflict because right now they're basically just sending them into their arming
00:50:09.960
them and sending them into the meat grinder and saying, yeah, go Ukraine, you know, kind
00:50:15.440
And completely, like I said, it's a video game, completely oblivious to like what the
00:50:19.980
blowback might be or whether their city is just, I mean, I, uh, I live in the Atlanta
00:50:28.220
And I don't know enough about bio warfare, but could a terrorist like blow up or, or
00:50:34.040
do something to just unleash Ebola throughout Atlanta?
00:50:38.500
The fact that like, we're even discussing these things is, is it like, see, like as a possibility,
00:50:46.740
It's like worry about the pronouns and like all the idiots, like you're talking about the
00:50:53.360
Rather than some mentally disturbed person getting their feelings hurt and like everything's
00:50:59.660
I, and I don't use the, the jargon, but yeah, talk about clown world.
00:51:06.440
I mean, and it's, it's actually, it's like the, the movie Dr. Strangelove.
00:51:11.560
They're just like somebody accidentally, like this guy who was worried about his precious
00:51:18.120
Well, like a Charles Bronson movie, a death wish, right?
00:51:22.920
It's a death wish in a way, weirdly enough, maybe it's like a collectively speaking, like
00:51:28.300
a subconscious, like desire to just like end things because it's just, it's just such
00:51:36.260
There's obviously, you know, meddling forces here and stuff like that.
00:51:38.580
But it's this idea that like, you know, replacing one conflict with another.
00:51:43.540
And now conveniently, as we said before, uh, Jim, you know, and now it's like, as a consequence
00:51:47.700
of this, we're getting, uh, you know, petrol, uh, oil and gas shortages, we're getting food
00:51:53.400
All these things are happening, just spiraling out of control because of this.
00:51:57.000
But the, I wonder too, cause everyone's been gas lit and lied to in ways they never have
00:52:02.560
systematically for the last two years, but still seem, except for, you know, internet arguing
00:52:10.720
But you wonder like when they finally let loose, is it going to be like nuclear war level
00:52:19.360
I know the times I've gotten hyper violent in my life.
00:52:25.280
And then somebody looked at me the wrong way and bam.
00:52:31.120
That's where we are as, you know, Oh, nuclear war fine.
00:52:33.680
It's better than just sitting in front of a screen and not being able to go out and having
00:52:37.380
It's like, wow, like nothing, nothing close to that in my entire lifetime.
00:52:42.620
And I said many times too, like, I think everyone knows that the world's going to end
00:52:45.960
one day, but wired in the human DNA, you think it's going to happen five minutes after
00:52:52.520
And you, you know, bad things are going to happen, but not during my life.
00:52:56.300
Well, and then you do have religious factions who are like, you know, actually wanting this
00:53:00.140
because you know, that, that will mean the, you know, the, the, the saver will come back
00:53:03.740
or whatever, probably, you know, eschatology essentially, right.
00:53:08.340
Uh, and, and there's like a, you know, like a, almost a, a fascination with that.
00:53:16.720
It's, I mean, like, just like, just because you have this lust to fulfill the book of
00:53:21.280
revelation, like bring the world down just so you're not insecure that maybe what you
00:53:26.660
believe in was nonsense, it's, it's crazy thinking, but, uh, yeah, to want the world
00:53:33.280
Like, don't, don't, don't spread the self-hatred throughout the world.
00:53:38.000
Like if I can't have it, no one will, you know, kind of like psycho sociopathic behavior,
00:53:43.720
Uh, the girl I wound up going to prison over confessed on an online forum that the main
00:53:50.760
reason she put me away was that, so no other, like if, if I can't have them, nobody's going
00:53:59.460
Well, I mean, how psychotic was I getting involved with someone like that?
00:54:02.740
That's, that's what I've finally learned over the past few years.
00:54:05.460
It's like, well, Jim, there's this pattern and you know what?
00:54:12.560
You got to, you got to learn from it and listen to that voice.
00:54:18.140
And I won't ask you about, you know, there's, it's funny because like literally as the world
00:54:21.920
is falling apart and, and the opportunities would of course be great.
00:54:25.880
Again, I want to, uh, uh, get into this too deeply now, so we'll wait, but you know, to
00:54:30.080
kind of a little teaser for the audience here, talk about some of the drama and all that stuff
00:54:33.700
happy that's been unfolding over the last couple of weeks.
00:54:35.400
I kind of see this period as like a, an amazing recruitment opportunity essentially.
00:54:40.120
Because there's a lot of normies out there now that like, what the hell, like what the hell
00:54:45.060
And you'd think then that the right wing or whatever you want to call it would be like,
00:54:48.140
unified and like, you know, pushing an information battle to like, you know, gobble up as many
00:54:55.520
No, it's that it's descendant into this Spurgy clown world, uh, shit.
00:54:59.240
But so I want to ask you more about that later.
00:55:01.320
I know you were roped into that a little bit as well.
00:55:03.520
So, so that's something coming up here, but this one, you know, you lived in Portland for
00:55:08.280
Did you, I'm not sure if you knew this journalist, but basically Gracie Antifa lunatic left-wing
00:55:16.500
Uh, back in 2017, because the Portland was like the Bermuda triangle for me.
00:55:21.440
We, uh, we tried to, wanted to get away from like the insanity of LA.
00:55:25.300
We lived in LA, me and my first wife for seven years from 87 to 94.
00:55:29.380
We lived through the Rodney King riots, the Northridge earthquake.
00:55:32.420
Uh, I think in those seven years at LA County went from 17 to 43% Hispanic and, you know,
00:55:45.780
Cause it was this Portland back in the early nineties was this, I remember joking like
00:55:53.560
You can see Mount hood like 80 miles away, no homeless people, but now what's become
00:56:00.840
But I was, uh, I was the bet noir cause I moved there.
00:56:06.520
All these scandals related to the magazine I did, like the, there was an obscenity trial,
00:56:11.500
a guy shot at the white house and quoted me three British, like goth Nazis killed themselves.
00:56:19.820
So I was, I mean, not well, but to see what's become of it.
00:56:23.980
But anyway, back in 2017, there was this guy and he's well-intentioned.
00:56:31.380
He was a proud boy and he wrote some, some, uh, and I, I just, I mean, I'm not into men's
00:56:38.480
clubs or anything, but I understand the need for the proud boys as far as like protecting
00:56:43.320
Ann Coulter, like to be able to speak cause the left had gotten so violent.
00:56:46.800
But this guy, Alan did a review of my book, the redneck manifesto.
00:56:50.940
And he said, this could be the proud boy Bible.
00:56:53.860
I'm like, Oh, like not, there's really, it's, it's a book about the history of the demonization
00:57:03.120
But people have, I've been blamed for the proud.
00:57:06.000
And this article basically blamed me for bringing street violence to Portland.
00:57:09.860
And it was, it was an unflattering profile, but Portland's so nuts.
00:57:16.680
They, some of these people were, and they're always trying to out, out purify each other
00:57:22.460
Someone dropped, uh, dumped a ton of topsoil into the parking lot of this publication at
00:57:31.780
Cause these people are big on guilt by association.
00:57:34.200
There was a woman, Chloe, you daily who used to have a little bookstore called reading
00:57:40.180
And when the redneck manifesto came out, she invited me to, to read there, read the book,
00:57:45.520
you know, and place was packed, not a problem back then.
00:57:49.060
She said, since become the, uh, the Portland, one of the three Portland city commissioners
00:57:56.160
It's like, why did you let this neo-Nazi racist creep speak?
00:58:00.860
And she was, and you know, she disavowed me as hard as she could, but this guy, Mike
00:58:07.400
Bivens, B I V I N S, he and a couple other people, they heard this rumor that Chloe had
00:58:13.080
put, yeah, look at this haunted little elf, not a happy guy.
00:58:17.560
No, but he, he and another, they were like railing on Chloe.
00:58:23.460
But someone like, cause Chloe used to go out with a friend of mine, Sean Tedarachi, who's
00:58:30.260
He does pretty much all of my book covers and everything.
00:58:33.200
But somehow rumors started that Chloe put money on my books when I was in jail in Portland.
00:58:40.260
And this Mike Bivens guy kept me like, did you that?
00:58:47.480
Like I asked, I asked Sean, it's like, that's the worst pick.
00:58:50.420
It's also the first picture that comes up when you search my name.
00:58:55.120
But, uh, I said to a Mike, like, you know, I have a podcast.
00:59:00.720
I'll tell you everything I know about Chloe, but you got to face me man to man.
00:59:04.100
Like, you know, you just want something from me to nail somebody else who's never been
00:59:11.240
But then like, I see that this guy had a, this Mike bit.
00:59:17.040
I'm like, Mike Bivens is the guy who investigated the alt-right, you know, self-described journalist.
00:59:23.640
And now he's being charged, arrested with, uh, attacking two synagogues and trying to set
00:59:36.700
The weird thing, a couple of things that make this completely different than other hate
00:59:41.340
And I'm kind of a scholar on hate crime hoaxes.
00:59:43.980
Portland up until this point had my favorite all time hate crime hoax.
00:59:48.800
I mean, once I interviewed Richard Spencer like five years ago, I know how unpopular
00:59:55.460
I don't, I don't know why that happened, but no comment beyond that.
01:00:00.700
But I asked him like, you know, are you a white supremacist?
01:00:05.120
Like, he's like, they're supreme in my heart, but clearly they're not the best runners.
01:00:11.840
Blacks are supreme at giving their kids interesting names.
01:00:19.700
Black, lesbian, wheelchair, chair bound, right.
01:00:29.140
And she told the cops that like neon, like her house had been spray painted with the N
01:00:37.640
And there were vigils, there were parades, like sympathetic, you know, allies put up
01:00:45.860
The cops put up cameras to film her house from like a, an adjoining apartment.
01:00:56.480
She gets up, stands up, walks and plants a, a wooden, little wooden cross in a flower pot
01:01:06.820
Up until this week, that was my favorite all time hate crime hoax.
01:01:17.420
I don't think Bivens is a, you know, some kind of Germanic Ashkenazi, Yiddish hybrid.
01:01:22.920
He, um, but like he, he was a rabid street, called himself a street journalist, like filming
01:01:30.420
the fights between proud boys and Patriot prayer against Antifa for years.
01:01:40.740
The ones that did the hit piece on me, he, he, he wrote for Al Jazeera, you know, suddenly
01:01:47.280
But then I started looking into his Twitter history and the last six months, he's saying
01:01:52.840
how great Elon Musk is, that abortion's a crime, that Kamala, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden
01:01:58.460
are evil and that they, the media under reports hate crimes against whites.
01:02:05.980
Apparently like over the winter, he got divorced and he was living in hotels and out on the street
01:02:12.880
But what's really weird, it was over the, it was like late April, early May.
01:02:17.280
He, he attacked, he like threw a rock through one synagogue window.
01:02:21.240
He, uh, I don't know how you pronounce it in German, D-Juden, like D-I-E-J-U-D-E-N.
01:02:27.240
I don't know if he thought that meant die Jews.
01:02:33.240
Like you gotta like read the handbook before you become a fake Nazi.
01:02:37.900
Then he tried, uh, immolating this mosque while a prayer meeting was going on twice and
01:02:43.720
Then he comes back and does something else to one of the synagogues like that the following
01:02:49.640
Wednesday, then marches himself to a local TV station.
01:02:54.340
There's surveillance footage of him, like knocking on the door of the TV station.
01:02:58.460
The unidentified worker, the TV station said he, he confessed to the crime.
01:03:02.660
He showed them the hammer and the ice pick that he used to smash windows in this, this, uh,
01:03:09.300
And he said, I'm going to come back Friday, but first I want you to research.
01:03:12.740
I want you to contact these three religious organizations and I want you to research my
01:03:18.980
Cause usually a hate crime hoaxer is trying to like say they were victimized, but this
01:03:24.140
He comes, the idiot comes back Friday and it promptly gets arrested.
01:03:29.300
But the whole situation is like the weirdest hate crime hoax I've ever seen, or maybe it
01:03:35.340
Like either he's just a natural born fanatic and he went from like, you know, rabbit Antifa
01:03:42.000
guy, but still had such a cartoonish idea of what a right winger was.
01:03:49.780
So I'll start bombing, you know, or I'll start, yeah, cause that's what we do, right?
01:03:54.140
So, so that's, that's one, maybe he's just like basic that way.
01:03:59.460
The fact that he wanted to get attention for it, my theory for this is he, he puts so much
01:04:05.480
effort into LARPing as a right wing guy for six, but like friends, cause it was a new Twitter
01:04:11.400
He'd been knocked off Twitter, but they said this change was like two or three or four years.
01:04:16.380
But I'm thinking this guy LARPed as a stereotypical right wing guy.
01:04:23.680
Like the fact that he wanted to get caught, I suspect the guy's whole deal is he's going
01:04:37.040
You know who's, who did that video that's conveniently been scrubbed from the existence.
01:04:42.000
So I think this guy's going to go for the, I was, and this is a reason like, look, I
01:04:47.480
started reading this stuff and I thought Elon Musk was cool.
01:04:50.120
And like, immediately I'm burning mosques and attacking synagogues.
01:04:54.100
So you're saying that just the Elon Musk connection, cause that's interesting.
01:04:58.320
It was a ton of things like before something about like, there's this tamale vendor in my
01:05:05.100
It was all this stuff that you would think somebody who followed right wing Twitter would
01:05:11.180
My hunch is that it was all insincere, but he was just trying to build this foolproof, like
01:05:15.820
way to just completely eliminate any kind of that sort of speech.
01:05:23.080
No, that of course it's a very high possibility as well, but yeah, no, it could be, yeah, a little
01:05:27.720
some, some mini gay op in order to get a, like a life changing story later on or something,
01:05:32.880
Like, or, or this is what I was radicalized by.
01:05:36.220
Therefore we have to, you know, mitigate, control, limit this type of information, blah,
01:05:42.200
Um, so the, the, the headlines write themselves on some of these, some of these stories, right.
01:05:46.960
It's, it's insane how that, I mean, they got the diversity they wanted and it was, it's
01:05:54.140
I mean, when I moved there in 94, it was such a safe city.
01:05:57.320
You could pretty much walk naked through downtown at night and people would just think you're
01:06:02.680
Now, like you have to carry a gun in downtown Portland, man, at night.
01:06:08.660
So synagogues and stuff and, and, and a mosque and, and, and again, even like, obviously that's,
01:06:14.920
uh, one-on-one is like, okay, well how, if you were sincere, how would this advance any
01:06:22.820
Obviously it's just, again, it's, no, it's literally the worst thing you can do.
01:06:27.060
I, uh, I know a guy that, uh, lives in Portland.
01:06:29.960
I knew him back when I lived there, but he, uh, he was working with the homeless template.
01:06:34.040
Like he had a job at some like homeless agency, but the, the stories he told me, the things
01:06:40.420
that they get away with and any minority worker there will just build the company for 200 hours
01:06:47.580
And Portland's one of these cities where they're rolling out these free crack pipes and crack
01:06:53.580
And, uh, I mean, he saw a crocodile there and just all sorts of insanity.
01:06:59.500
The guy also, he's a really nice guy, but his wife left him to become a street junkie
01:07:05.580
And I called him the other day cause I wanted to ask him about this Mike Biven situation.
01:07:15.820
His junkie wife who has like flesh eating disease, like all these junkie conditions apparently
01:07:21.900
got knocked up by some other homeless person and had a baby and they both abandoned it and
01:07:29.640
they delivered my friend papers cause apparently the way the law works in Oregon now he's responsible
01:07:41.200
Portland's just, I mean, what a great, he's going to be a great father too.
01:07:44.560
So, you know, well, he's not even the dad, uh, going to get nailed for it.
01:07:51.520
But the transformation of that city, but it was strange.
01:07:54.020
I mean, like I said, I had so many bad things happen and I just, I was in the wrong place
01:08:09.600
That's more patience than I would have for sure.
01:08:12.420
Well, I mean, well, I was in Oregon 11 years, two and a half of them were incarcerated, but
01:08:18.680
And I've told the stories about being like stalked by the, uh, you didn't even hear the
01:08:24.820
word Antifa 20 years ago in Portland, but there were the anti-racist skinheads that, uh,
01:08:30.860
who had carte blanche to beat up anybody they called a Nazi.
01:08:35.800
So it's been nuts, but it's just, it's like whatever was wrong with Portland has metastasized
01:08:41.740
So do you think we'll get any answers in this trial dates and like, do you think more will
01:08:46.100
come to light of like motivations and stuff or, uh, what's there might be a, uh, a link
01:08:50.760
there where he appeared in court and I don't know if you ever, you know who David son of
01:08:55.020
Sam Berkowitz was like, do you ever see the photos of him when he was being like, you know,
01:08:59.860
on his perp walk, he had this weird placid smile.
01:09:05.980
Like if you look up Berkowitz links around, but like when this guy appeared in court, he
01:09:09.780
was making, making these inappropriate grins and he flexed his arm and everything.
01:09:15.120
Like that's scarier than if you look malevolent, like he just shot, you know, six different
01:09:21.020
people at night and terrorized the city when the city was like Armageddon.
01:09:25.760
Anyway, New York in the mid seventies was hell on earth.
01:09:29.040
But there's a court appearance or arraignment or something.
01:09:39.440
Well, this is like, I mean, we've seen so many of these like mass shooters.
01:09:44.020
That are like completely, just completely whacked out.
01:09:46.900
And like, obviously they're like, I mean, they're mentally, you know, if they're not,
01:09:51.040
I'm not going to say, Oh, he's, he's mind control.
01:09:53.100
But you know, like some of these people are like clearly been like, you know,
01:09:58.880
What I noticed too is like his friend, his former friends in Portland were, Oh, Mike's
01:10:08.260
And like, I, it's like, why didn't I say I was mentally ill, but I don't think I would
01:10:16.260
No, so some of these individuals that are, okay, it's not, here we go.
01:10:20.160
They're not, they're clearly, I mean, yeah, they're attracted to all the, just making weird.
01:10:26.880
So he's, I mean, who knows MK ultra, like maybe he's just some kind of just drugs and
01:10:32.420
like, you know, like enough meth or fentanyl or both.
01:10:35.280
And then just like, you know, being in these political spheres and stuff.
01:10:38.700
And they're like, no, I'm a, I'm a right winger now.
01:10:42.660
We go and bomb synagogues and stuff because that's where I've read it in the paper.
01:10:45.880
But that's what makes me suspect that he's, look at this guy.
01:10:48.760
Ah, that's not, something's not right with this guy.
01:10:57.900
But yeah, that's, that's such an odd synagogue assault.
01:11:05.380
You deal with harassers and stuff or, but, uh, the only thing that's,
01:11:08.680
the only thing where it's not tedious, just like with the hate crime hoaxes.
01:11:12.000
I guess it's a little, it's refreshing that this guy took a new angle on it.
01:11:21.220
All that's like, you know, he's like, bye everybody.
01:11:23.320
And at the end there, uh, I wonder if it's, it's interesting that it's always like,
01:11:28.040
so you can have a, obviously like a complete lunatic and stuff, but somehow his behavior
01:11:33.460
is then automatically attached to like, you know, rational debates around the issue of
01:11:38.600
like, well, should we have open borders or whatever?
01:11:41.640
Like some, some, or like the replacement thing or whatever, right?
01:11:48.180
They can take that and then they can attach that with us.
01:11:50.500
Like anybody who has these opinions is mentally ill and must be put away.
01:12:00.220
No, but any kind of dissenting thought is, is you don't disagree.
01:12:06.920
I think ultimately they'll say, no, the people that don't like adhere to our view, they're
01:12:10.120
mental, they have mental problems and we're going to need to medicate against that too.
01:12:13.320
Cause otherwise it's a threat to our democracy and it will put lives at risk.
01:12:19.140
I remember like 10 years ago, somebody in the Amren comments was saying something about
01:12:24.420
DMS five or whatever, the diagnostic statistical manual where they determine what's mentally
01:12:29.160
ill, that they're going to come up with something called chronic bias.
01:12:32.740
And that just thinking that, you know, preferring your own kind or like holding, like not believing
01:12:39.000
in equality, that's going to be recategorized as mental illness.
01:12:42.860
And, uh, you know, they have things like this, right?
01:12:45.620
They have basically now medications and pills are going to solve a pill that could prevent
01:12:56.760
Like it was, it's some kind of heart medication, but it also prevents you from that.
01:13:06.640
It was like five, 10 years ago where they found there's certain kids who like didn't show
01:13:12.040
any bias or, but it was because they didn't have some sort of protective mechanism in their,
01:13:18.100
Basically what this pill does is it, uh, it weakens your defenses against.
01:13:22.820
Yeah, you're, you're, you're in, yeah, beta blocker propranolol, right?
01:13:30.700
So basically, yeah, you're basically like give, you're giving up, right?
01:13:36.380
But the metric they used even 10 years ago, cause this is a little over 10 years ago to
01:13:40.500
determine racism in the same article, give the bigots a pill was the, uh, was the I,
01:13:45.620
I, I, AI, it's the, uh, Harvard implicit association bias test where what they do
01:13:52.700
is, and this is the scientific idea behind this.
01:13:55.180
They start, start you off slow and black faces, white faces, good, bad, evil, dangerous.
01:14:00.880
And they, they speed it up so fast that like you can't possibly fake it.
01:14:05.960
Oh, I remember this unleash your unconscious bias.
01:14:09.800
And I took the test five times, scored five different results entirely.
01:14:17.520
So this completely unscientific fraudulent, unscientific fraudulent test that they're
01:14:22.580
using, they're going to use as an excuse to medicate people into lowering the defenses
01:14:31.000
It's going to be the first time ever that's happening.
01:14:36.660
We, let's take a break here, uh, Jim, and we'll get into, yeah, I mean, there's other
01:14:42.160
The Biden regime is driving us completely into the ground here, but, uh, what do you
01:14:47.220
Tell us about some of the books you do have and if there's something new that people should
01:14:50.840
You know, it's, what's interesting is if you can get me in that answer me shirt.
01:14:54.400
That's where I made my bones, that magazine I did in the early nineties that caused all
01:14:57.920
sorts of scandals, man, uh, dealing with a printer right now, they printed it five years
01:15:07.420
Uh, Nick Bugis did the, the new cover and it's going to be hard cover, glossy paper.
01:15:14.420
Every original page of this ancient magazine that was done 30 years ago has been colorized.
01:15:18.700
Nick Bugis colorized all, almost all the line art.
01:15:22.780
Some of the original artists colorized it too, but, uh, and the thing's been delayed,
01:15:29.360
delayed, delayed, paper shortages, all this stuff.
01:15:31.700
So earlier this week I sent them the files and I was supposed to put the down, I was
01:15:37.440
supposed to pay in full for the print run on Wednesday, but now it might not happen because
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they're upset about the content in the magazine.
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Like, even though it's funny, like the salesman and he's a nice enough guy, but like he was,
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and I'm like, guys, you printed this five years ago, but like we were talking, all we're
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talking about are specs and how many, how much, what kind of paper.
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But like, he didn't, I guess he didn't even know what they were printing, but he gave me
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Like I lied to him or, and I'm like, it's, you know, it's something we did 30 years ago.
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And I guess like the three of the issues, one was about murder, one was about suicide,
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And I'm like, but you know, like I've learned you don't even try to say, you know, it's no,
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it's not hate in the way that like, right, right.
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And so, cause he knows, he knows it's the, the pressure is working and they're already
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You know, bailing out, preparing to like get attacked by someone because here's the printer
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that did it, you know, put them out of business.
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They've been stalling for three days now though, because I think that, uh, they'd get a lot
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of money for this and the economy is not great.
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They've, they just haven't given me an answer since Monday.
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But I think, I mean, it sucks, but, uh, someone out there should be willing to print it.
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So it's just a matter of fact, there are print on, there's a print on demand place in the
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I think the, think the reason they, they printed it last summer, uh, cause it's all completely
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I don't even think a human sees it, but the problem is the difference between a print run
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from a professional printer and print on demand is per copy.
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It's going to be like two and a half times more expensive to get print on.
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If you want something, you know, yeah, physical copy of something on the right there, the
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New church ladies is Nick Bugis, but again, he, uh, yeah, he, that the bomb, that's the
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only one I designed was the bomb inside my brain.
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But, uh, yeah, Sean Tedarachi did the, he's, he's just like fantastic designer.
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He did whiteness, the original sin, but Nick drew the, if you scroll down, yeah, new church
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So that's a new, uh, instead of like a reprint or updated version of that or something,
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or these are, these are all print on demand too.
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Uh, so I, you know, and those are like the way it works is someone orders one and they
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Cause the one thing about this room, I mean, it is a nice big room and I, you know, I converted
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it from a garage, but I was supposed to get 220 cases of this book, like here in July that
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People can keep an update on this, of course, at, uh, jimgoat.net.
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So you give, uh, people updates there in terms of if and when it becomes available, right?
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All right, uh, guys, we're going to take a quick little break here.
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We'll be back in part two with, uh, Jim Goat getting to, well, a lot of other things,