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- May 17, 2022
Abortion, Dysgenics, Collapse & Drama - Jim Goad
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All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back.
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I'm Henrik, RedEyes.tv, RedEyesMembers.com.
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Hope you're having a wonderful day wherever you are, whenever you're tuning into this.
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We have a great show lined up for you guys.
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Jim Goad is back on the show.
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We have plenty to talk about.
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Things have certainly improved since we spoke last time with Jim.
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We're basically like an inch away from like a certain death, basically.
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But lots to get into.
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Jim, welcome back.
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Thank you for coming on.
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Hey, folks.
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Hey, Vikings.
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Good to see you, Jim.
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How have you been?
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I forget when it was, a year ago, maybe even more since we last spoke?
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Maybe even a little more, but it's like, I mean, I think since the last time I spoke to you,
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I stopped writing for Tacky's and write for Countercurrents now.
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Yes.
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I've seen so many good articles.
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That's why I wanted to have you on, by the way.
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You wrote an excellent piece on the abortion issue.
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We'll talk more about that in a moment.
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But anyway, proceed.
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Yeah, and then the world started ending with the pandemic or whatever that was in the summer
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of Floyd and now inflation and the nuclear war.
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It's Hemingway's suddenly or gradually than all of a sudden.
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We're at the all of a sudden moment of the world falling apart.
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But, you know, I think I used to be a lot more anxious than I am now.
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It's like, well, do what you can.
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It's weird.
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It's like how close you get.
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I kind of feel in the same way, in some weird way.
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I'm not sure why.
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Maybe it's just because it's so disconnected.
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It kind of feels unreal.
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And I guess I'm not certain like how close we actually are to like real existential danger.
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And many days, my rational brain kind of understands that.
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But emotionally, I'm like, yeah, it's fine.
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I don't I mean, I've been around obviously a long time.
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I don't remember any time where the entire public has been gaslit for so long.
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And I wrote an article about a year.
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I'm surprised there haven't been more riots and violent.
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I mean, yeah, I don't know if it's learned helplessness.
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If people don't think there's at this point, they've just given up.
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But man, if people get angry again, it's going to be really scary.
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If you start messing with the food supply and with, you know, it's one of the things I want
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to talk about later.
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I mean, there's like energy shortages now.
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There's food supply shortage.
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Even even goddamn baby formula is like running out like what this is literally like begging
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like, please, please, you know, go to our power center or centers of power and like drag
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us out of these buildings and like, you know, I don't put us in the gallows or something.
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You know what I mean?
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I mean, he's I suppose he was Jewish, but Abraham Maslow was a psychologist.
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He came up with this idea of the hierarchy of needs and it's sort of like a pyramid where
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at the bottom, the basic needs, food, shelter, then you get up to, you know, philosophy, self
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actualization.
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I always say, you know, when will things change when people get hungry?
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Yes.
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And also when the pills run out, everyone's so fucking medicated that you want some riots.
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I mean, the people on antidepressants and painkillers when that there's a shortage of
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that.
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I think that's when it's all going to go off.
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There we go.
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There's there's there is.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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Food, water, warmth.
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Yeah.
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Who cares about self actualization or feeling like if you're hungry?
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That's that's all.
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Exactly.
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It's priority.
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Right.
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I mean, yeah, it's true.
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I guess it's a basic need is actually like the fundament.
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Right.
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Or like the the base of the pyramid.
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Like if you don't have that, everything will fall over essentially topple over.
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Right.
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But yeah, no.
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So this is very strange.
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And I mean, I remember even hearing this is years ago now, but like when the alt right
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was kind of like in its peak in a way, there was buzz and Trump had, I think, just gotten
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elected or something.
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And you have the editor of the Atlantic magazine.
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What is his name again?
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Goldberg something.
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Michael Goldberg.
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I forget what his first name is.
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It might.
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Yeah.
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They're interchangeable.
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Something like that.
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One of the precious metal names anyway.
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Yeah.
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He's saying that together with a bunch of other people.
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I forget.
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There's some journalists that just had, you know, basically graduated, but she started
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writing for the Atlantic.
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But anyway, they're sitting there and talking about like, how do we prevent from like something
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like the alt right from ever, you know, kind of becoming larger or like it's as dangerous.
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Should we be afraid the far right is on the rise?
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And I remember Goldberg, the editor in chief at the Atlantic, basically says, no, basically
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we still, as long as we're providing, you know, basically like, you know, carousels and
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bread and circuses, right?
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Bread and circuses, right.
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It's like cheap calories and entertainment.
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It will keep them pacified.
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But again, entertainment, even sports now they've ruined with all the BLM, you know, crap.
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And now they're messing with the food supply.
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So it's like, what do they want us to like fight back?
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Well, what's going on?
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You know, the only sport I watch is boxing and they haven't been able to make that woke
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yet.
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Really?
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And I mean, in the 80s and when I was a kid in the 70s, when Ali fought Frazier, there
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were no good white boxers.
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But I take solace.
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There are four different divisions, like the heavyweight division in pro boxing, there's
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four different belts, four different sanctioning bodies.
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White guys have them all right now.
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So the best boxers in the world right now are white.
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Alexander Usyk from Ukraine, crazy talented boxer.
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And Tyson Fury, Irish gypsy.
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When was Ingmar Johansson before your time?
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The Swedish boxer?
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He was good, wasn't he?
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Who?
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Who's that?
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Ingmar Johansson or Ingmar Johansson.
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Yeah, he was like late 50s.
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He was right before, I think, Floyd Patterson beat him or something.
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And then came Sonny Liston, who was a complete thug.
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And Ali.
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But yeah, there was a good 30 years you couldn't find a good white boxer.
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Right, right.
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So that's good.
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You can't really make beating someone else's head in sensitive.
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It's just in the format itself, it's just masculinity.
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Right.
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And slug out the other guy until he's unconscious.
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It's true.
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It is true.
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But again, I'm surprised I'm trying to ruin it because all the BLM, I mean, stuff have
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nestled its way into the sports, right?
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But so anyway, so food supply, all that stuff.
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We'll get into a little bit more detail about that here.
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But tell us.
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Jared Taylor once mentioned Ingmar Johansson.
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It was the beginning of one of his books.
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He went because if you know his history, he was raised by pretty liberal Christian missionaries
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in Japan.
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But he remembers, even though this, you know, he was biased that way or had been taught to
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think that way.
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He remember like when Johansson lost.
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I think it was to Floyd Patterson or Sonny Liston, Floyd Patterson.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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He defeated.
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Yeah.
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Johansson won the title by defeating Floyd Patterson via third round stoppage.
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I don't even know what that is.
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Probably stoppage means knockout.
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He's down for 10 seconds and can't get up.
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Right.
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But whoever beat him, I think it was probably Sonny Liston if this is the time frame.
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But Jared Taylor, even though he'd been taught not to think racially, he didn't like that
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the white guy lost.
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And I remember even like when I was like in my teens and had been absorbed all the TV
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sitcoms and everything you learn, they don't even admit that they're teaching you on TV.
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Even then, like I'd watch a basketball game.
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The white guy would get a basket.
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I'd be like, yes, yes.
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Yeah.
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Like even counterintuitively, there'd be that instinct.
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Exactly.
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Right.
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Exactly.
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Like inexplicit.
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Is that the right word?
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You know, alignment with your group, with your ethnic, you know, belonging, basically.
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Even though you've been scolded and frightened into thinking it's bad.
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Yep.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, no, it's true.
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Holy shit.
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Yeah, he was born in Gotham or look at that.
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Died in Kungsbacke.
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Holy smokes.
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In 2009.
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They've got a Swede right now, Robert Hellenius, H-E-L-E-N-I-U-S.
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He's like called the Nordic Nightmare.
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I have not.
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I've not followed boxing, but that's interesting.
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Okay.
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But this is like just pure, like the, like what do you call it?
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Classic Orthodox or something, right?
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Not like MMA or something like that.
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Just, just fisticuffs, Marcus of Queensbury rules.
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But yeah, Orthodox stance in, in boxing is, is right-handed and Southpaw is left-handed.
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I'm left-handed.
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Oh, gotcha.
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Okay.
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Which does give me an advantage because people don't expect to be hit from that angle.
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Yeah.
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Just genetic, because we're like what, 8% of the population.
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Mm-hmm.
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So, let's talk a bit about the article here.
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Let's begin with the Supreme Court ruling.
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Now, I have to say first, and you know, a lot to break down here, right?
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But my, as, as it's been kind of unfolding, you know, my, as with all things, my position
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on it has kind of evolved a little bit.
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You're like, especially when you see the, the kind of spurgs that are like protesting
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this.
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And it's like, is this really the people we want to reproduce kind of thing?
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But your article was great because it was titled, An Extra 20 Million George Floyd.
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So, break that down for us and explain what you talk about in the article.
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I, I mean, it's such an emotionally laden topic.
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I can't get worked up either way about abortion because I think it's murder.
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I think it's obviously a life form.
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Uh, and they talk about viability.
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Well, you know, I know people that are in their fifties who aren't viable and can't like
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survive without support and someone wiping their bottoms and everything.
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Um, so, I mean, I think that's why the left has a problem with it because they don't
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like to admit that they, they hate murder.
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Uh, I, I'm the, uh, I'm the result.
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Of a failed abortion.
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As my brother tells me the story, and I know I, I've told this story many times, but
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number one, I'm senile, but number two, it's apropos of the topic.
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As the, the story was related to me, my, my dad punched my mom in the stomach trying to
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abort me and I survived.
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So I guess at least in that one case, I'm against abortion.
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Uh, but yeah, it's, I mean, the, and the rhetoric behind it choice, the man has no choice
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in the matter at all.
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I mean, his body doesn't matter.
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He has no choice like to, uh, avoid jail if he doesn't pay child support.
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But I looked at it like from a depth.
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And I know that the mystical, traditional spiritual right thinks it's an abomination.
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Fine.
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But I, you know, I wanted to look at it mathematically.
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And the fact is, and maybe, you know, Margaret Sanger was onto something, but I think per capita,
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three times as many black babies are aborted than white babies.
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And, uh, as of 2014, oh my God.
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Do you see this one?
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I mean, that's a, yeah, I don't know if you can do a retroactive abortion, but there's
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one for you right there.
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But, uh.
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Yes.
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But, and I did an article about abortion in 2014.
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At that time, there were an estimated 20 million black fetuses aborted from 1973 to 2014.
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It's probably 30 million George Floyds.
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So basically, if there had been no abortion, I mean, there'd be the back alley abortions
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with the rusty coat hangers and everything.
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But what we'd be looking at is like a 20 or 30 million extra George Floyds.
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And it's something to, I mean, as, as conservative and traditional as you want, that would probably
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be the result.
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Yeah.
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And so that's what.
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I think we had, we had enough.
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We had sufficient George Floyds.
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We don't need any more George Floyds.
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We need some scholars.
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We need some people who are able to do physics and calculus.
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But, uh, what is she yammering about here?
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She was basically, I'm, I'm killing my baby.
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And like, I mean, literally she's bragging about lunatic.
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Yeah.
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Like, I mean, obviously this is like an effigy or whatever you want to call it, the doll.
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Right.
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But she's like, you know, some dragging it out of her stomach and then beating it against
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the ground and like, I'm killing my baby.
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I mean, clearly like mentally ill.
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Right.
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But this is what I'm saying.
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It's like, look, I don't like the abortion.
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I've been over this on some shows, but if we have like, you know, newcomers tuning in
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and just, you know, listening to this show, obviously I don't like the industry around
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it.
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I think it is.
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And well, yeah, watch out here.
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I got to blur this out or something, but it's a spread Eagle here.
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But anyway, um, um, I don't like the whole industry around it.
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And you know, the, I think it's, it is being used.
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There's people that are making money.
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Businesses making money on fetuses.
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They're experimenting on it.
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They're using stem cells from it.
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Like there's a whole field around this, which has been, been built up.
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But if you look at it again, as you said, kind of cold and mathematically, it's like, look,
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we, you could argue, you know, are we overpopulated?
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We're not, uh, many people say we're not, but, but if, if we don't do anything about
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it, obviously we will be because of our success at some point.
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Do we have to go right up until the very edge of like being, oh, now we're basically overpopulated.
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So now it's okay to, to tackle this question as opposed to doing it, you know, kind of
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right now.
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Um, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to live like this, you know, like that.
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I, I, I, you know, Sweden is a big country for this population numbers, but I'm traveling
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around in Sweden.
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There you go.
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There's your 20 million George Floyds.
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There you go, right?
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And it's like, I want forests.
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I want nature.
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I want to, you know, uh, where I can go distances without human development and stuff like that.
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And it's not because I'm anti-human or anything like that.
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I'm just trying to realistically look at this, you know what I mean?
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And if you're into eugenics at all, I suppose, you know, abortion serves a purpose.
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Yeah.
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I mean, there, I, I also, I mean, but there's, I, in my life, I think I've created one fetus
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that got aborted.
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It was to a girlfriend shortly after I got out of the joint, she wouldn't have been a
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stable mom.
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She had an abortion.
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I remember coming home from work and she's throwing up into some paper bag cause the abortion
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didn't suit her well or anything.
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But I've known girls who just, who thought it was cool.
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To get abortions, which is sort of, that's where our culture is now.
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And again, I think that's the, obviously the rational, emotional, correct, you know, if
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anybody to have somewhat of a moral compass, and I know you've made the point before on
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this show and it, and it's good.
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It's not whether, uh, it's, um, uh, right or wrong, but it's whether it's, uh, true or
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false.
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Exactly.
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Right.
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So that, that I totally get, but I get it.
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People feel, you know, they feel bad, their emotions, you know, comfort, they spring from
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something, right.
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A sense like, you know, if you see one of these like fetuses crawling around in a bucket, you
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know what I mean?
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And try like gasping for air.
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Like, I, I, I, that's probably pretty difficult to, to, to see, you know what I mean?
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But, um, I think the discussion is framed in the wrong kind of way of, because really
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women, as far as women concern, why aren't they taught about their cycles?
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Right.
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It's basically like a period of like three days or something like that.
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You know, what, like what kind of another thing I put in this article at this point,
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like if you're an adult, because you still have people going into hospitals, nine months
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pregnant and don't realize they're pregnant.
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And if, you know, at this point though, like there are morning after there are condoms,
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there's contrast, you know, there's the pill, there's the morning after pill.
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If you don't have ethical problems with that, but there's really no need for abortion really.
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But the, uh, what I was thinking before is like the girls I knew who thought abortion
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was cool, they were obviously scarred by it.
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And I think they were compensating by acting like it was cool, but I've never known a woman
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to become suddenly sane by squeezing a baby out either.
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So, right, right.
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You know, I don't know if it messes them up more or less.
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I think I have, you could argue in a way that like when they all of a sudden were responsible
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for something outside of themselves, they did actually lose some of their crazy tendencies
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and they're like, they had to straighten out essentially, right?
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Because now they're responsible for someone else.
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I think there's something that could be argued generally, right?
00:15:17.280
I think that that's true that women and even men, they generally get more conservative,
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traditionally minded when they start getting kids, right?
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It's a spectrum or they, you know, they start hitting their kid.
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I mean, there's, there's a whole rainbow of possible experiences.
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That's why, you know, I don't identify as concerned.
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Everybody's all family, family.
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It's like, well, you must've come from a good one because there, there are bad ones
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too.
00:15:39.700
I mean, I could go with, like I said, in my case, but if the kid's unwanted and doesn't
00:15:45.280
have much of a future, I'm not sure.
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I'm not sure which is more ethical, just aborting the fetus or letting them grow up in that
00:15:52.060
environment.
00:15:52.780
Yeah.
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Because it's also something to be said for like these miserable people and their lives
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and, and just the crab mentality.
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Like, let me play one clip as an example, right?
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You might not have seen this yet, but here's another lunatic here.
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I didn't, I hadn't seen the black abortion show.
00:16:06.080
Oh yeah.
00:16:06.280
I hadn't seen that one.
00:16:06.940
Yeah.
00:16:07.040
That one is a, that one is a good one, but I do have another one here.
00:16:10.180
Let me just find the audio so we can also hear this real quick here.
00:16:13.800
But it's this idea of like, what do they call it?
00:16:15.940
Crab mentality, right?
00:16:17.040
That if one crab is trying to get out of the bucket, they grab it just to pull you kind of
00:16:21.060
back down again.
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And that's kind of the sense I get from this woman here.
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Listen to this here.
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It's my body.
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It's my choice.
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My, as I said before, my mother didn't have a choice.
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So I'm here, but I had 57 years of misery.
00:16:35.220
If she had a choice, she would have made different decisions and I might not have been here.
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Nobody would have been the wiser.
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Give her her choice.
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But rather than she having a choice, a choice was made for her because she didn't have it.
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And she brought treatment into the world that she didn't want.
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What do they have to know about her?
00:16:52.280
Yeah, go ahead, Jim.
00:16:53.100
It's such semantic nonsense because, I mean, I think that they're not pro-life, pro-choice,
00:16:58.340
pro-abortion or anti-abortion.
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Let's just be honest.
00:17:00.980
Like that's, because like I said, if, if I accidentally knock someone up, I have no choice.
00:17:05.700
If I want the kid, I have no choice in it.
00:17:08.940
It's her body.
00:17:09.820
It's her choice.
00:17:10.540
Yeah.
00:17:10.940
I have no, you know, no choice not to pay child, none of that stuff.
00:17:13.760
So it's, it's just dishonest.
00:17:15.380
But a lot of these are just annoying, neurotic women who, and I wrote an intro.
00:17:22.800
I'm doing a reprint of this magazine I did in the nineties, but you know, I, and I talk
00:17:27.120
about what's changed since the nineties, but the internet really made me realize how easily
00:17:32.120
people were led.
00:17:33.060
I always knew they were easily led, but when you see the same people spouting the same
00:17:37.780
and, you know, all of a sudden they all like Ukraine and all of a sudden, you know, they
00:17:41.440
think women are men.
00:17:42.380
It's, it's, and I think, you know, that, that sort of memification of everything happens
00:17:47.420
on the right side too, obviously.
00:17:49.540
And you have people that are just, just as easily led.
00:17:52.280
Oh, definitely.
00:17:53.700
I mean, yeah.
00:17:54.560
I mean, abortion, I guess it, it has its, its place.
00:17:58.400
Yeah.
00:17:58.760
I think, again, from my point of view, I would want to rephrase it because I am generally
00:18:03.800
against it.
00:18:04.500
Again, there's a, I mean, a very, it's a very small cases, right?
00:18:07.580
Of rape or incest, you know, things like that, or something is terribly wrong in this life
00:18:11.980
is just going to be like suffering and misery and stuff like that.
00:18:14.160
Right.
00:18:14.500
I mean, you're going to have to add like these surveys, you're going to have to assume that
00:18:19.000
the women are getting the abortions are being honest, but apparently rape and incest are
00:18:23.900
only like one combined or like 1.5.
00:18:26.480
Exactly.
00:18:27.080
Very low.
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In other words, like they, they're treating abortion as a, as a contraception, contraceptive
00:18:33.420
essentially.
00:18:33.940
Right.
00:18:34.200
It's like, you know, poor people or the unemployed, they'll use, you know, emergency rooms and
00:18:39.560
never pay anything.
00:18:40.960
Yeah.
00:18:41.120
But so it's like three days, essentially.
00:18:42.520
Like, no, okay.
00:18:43.220
No penis in vagina, like three days a month or whatever, you know, something like that.
00:18:46.800
Right.
00:18:46.900
Like, isn't that, and if they're so goddamn adamant about like killing these babies, right?
00:18:52.900
And why don't, get sterilized then.
00:18:55.460
Maybe that's what the discussion should be.
00:18:56.960
Maybe sterilization as an option.
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Like that way, you know, you won't kill innocent babies and these miserable people who hate
00:19:03.000
life won't be able to reproduce.
00:19:05.140
I mean, that's, that's a tantalizing proposition, but try like not having cities burned down.
00:19:13.260
That's the thing too.
00:19:14.180
There's something called the heckler's veto.
00:19:15.880
Do you know that concept?
00:19:16.540
Yeah, I've heard of it, but explain it again.
00:19:18.640
I mean, like people are afraid to do anything because people will burn things down or, you
00:19:24.820
know, harass them and scare them and run them out of their house and like what happened
00:19:28.980
to Tucker Carlson.
00:19:29.940
But that's what the world's become.
00:19:31.360
And it was understood a couple of decades ago that that's unethical and like no world
00:19:38.100
can operate when we're just going to let the hotheads rule everything because they
00:19:41.340
might get too upset and burn something down.
00:19:43.400
Yeah.
00:19:43.800
But that's, I mean, with everything, I mean.
00:19:47.160
But that's been weaponized consciously now.
00:19:49.320
It's not just a mob reacting like spontaneously.
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You know what I mean?
00:19:53.700
That's what I mean.
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People, they're so, they're depressingly easily led and whether they think so.
00:20:00.220
I mean, I think it's probably humiliating to admit that.
00:20:03.400
And most people probably aren't intelligent enough to even realize it, even if you explain
00:20:06.740
it to them.
00:20:07.440
Yeah.
00:20:07.520
I think it was Mark Twain who said it's easier to, uh, to swindle somebody, to lie to somebody
00:20:12.840
than to persuade them they've been lied to.
00:20:15.200
I think that's true.
00:20:16.140
Yeah, exactly.
00:20:16.920
It reminds me of this meme, right?
00:20:18.320
2020, George Floyd, Biden, Harris, all that stuff.
00:20:20.980
Then mask on, you know, shot in the arm and then straight to Ukraine.
00:20:24.780
Programming is that flipping a switch.
00:20:26.260
And now it's like, you know, now it's the, the, the abortion issue.
00:20:29.380
And, and of course that also means that all the previous things, which were big stories,
00:20:33.420
like landmark, like historical things, such as the pandemic or, you know, it's just basically
00:20:39.040
forgotten essentially.
00:20:40.360
I mean, it's just like, well, that's it moving on.
00:20:43.520
Cognitive dissonance is strong.
00:20:45.020
People, uh, and this is, this is another reason I regret becoming a writer.
00:20:48.940
I really thought that most people were like me because as arrogant as I am and as right
00:20:53.380
as I think I am 98% of the time, like a lot of times it's like, oh, I never considered
00:20:57.980
it that way.
00:20:58.560
Like, yeah, yeah, there's a, there's an extra piece of the puzzle.
00:21:01.360
Yeah, I was wrong.
00:21:01.840
I completely, most people won't do that.
00:21:03.860
Most people have that sort of dumb pride that they'd rather, they'd rather double down,
00:21:08.720
triple down, quadruple down on, on the deception rather than say, I was fooled.
00:21:12.540
Oh, absolutely.
00:21:13.260
Yeah.
00:21:13.440
No, they can't admit that.
00:21:14.440
That would be too, uh, too much for them to be honest.
00:21:17.160
Um, so you have, what is, what's going on in this picture?
00:21:19.220
Yeah.
00:21:19.380
So this is as one example, right?
00:21:21.280
The, just the cruel, almost, I mean, I'm not going to say satanic, but like monstrous
00:21:26.120
or demonic, like tendencies of some of these women that are like gloating.
00:21:29.920
Oh, I didn't know what that, uh, so she's got like a psychotic serial killer infant fetus
00:21:36.520
with like a knife in its skull.
00:21:38.240
Yeah, stabbed through the, like, this is, and that's, I guess her, a tattoo that she put
00:21:41.460
on her, right?
00:21:42.320
So.
00:21:42.700
But you always wonder, like, I got one stupid tattoo here and it had a girl's name on it
00:21:47.200
and I always like, just so I don't look like a complete idiot, I always tell people she
00:21:51.580
got my name first, but like, I always wonder, like if she, if she makes it to 80, I know.
00:22:00.060
And this is what I'm talking about.
00:22:00.800
Like, you know, I mean, as you said, the realistic possibility of this, but again, I'm like, well,
00:22:06.640
if the, if, if this is, how is it that you can have someone who can, you know, want to,
00:22:11.920
they're calling somebody or like, Hey man, I'm, I'm thinking about like blowing up a
00:22:16.860
building or I'm going to go kill someone, right?
00:22:18.560
They could be arrested for that, right?
00:22:20.180
You're not like, you're not allowed to communicate those kinds of things, right?
00:22:23.340
What's the difference here?
00:22:24.540
I think there's a fine line.
00:22:25.600
I think it's like, if I, I'm thinking about it, I think that's one thing.
00:22:29.840
Okay.
00:22:30.820
So, but it's still, it's not a direct, like, you know, at eight o'clock, I'm going to go
00:22:34.320
and blow up this building.
00:22:35.240
I think that's when it becomes a terroristic threat.
00:22:37.840
I could be wrong.
00:22:38.960
But, but in a way it is kind of like a pre crime thing, right?
00:22:41.340
Like, okay, how does it happen to you technically, but the person says that they're going to
00:22:45.080
do it, you know, that's still within the realm of pre crime.
00:22:47.960
But my point is like, you know, you could argue and it's a little stretch maybe, but
00:22:52.160
you could argue in a way, like if all these women are talking about like how we're going
00:22:55.360
to like, I'm going to murder babies because I get off on that.
00:22:58.420
Like what gives them the right then to reproduce in a way, right?
00:23:01.480
Like how do we know that they won't be like sadistic and actually go kill their babies
00:23:04.980
if this is the mentality?
00:23:06.260
That's what I meant earlier when I said like, I've known women who seem like they were, I mean,
00:23:10.400
I've known rape victims who were messed up by being raped, uh, women who were definitely
00:23:15.220
messed up by killing their own fetuses, but known women who've had eight kids and were
00:23:20.420
messed up.
00:23:21.620
What's the common denominator?
00:23:23.140
Women.
00:23:24.400
There you go.
00:23:25.680
You got it.
00:23:26.320
Let's just take care of that problem first.
00:23:27.780
Some of them is the strain of like childbirth gives them an aneurysm or something because
00:23:32.040
it doesn't make some women rational.
00:23:35.060
It makes them worse.
00:23:36.360
Interesting.
00:23:36.600
Okay.
00:23:36.840
Yeah.
00:23:36.980
My experience has been kind of the opposite for the most part, but, uh, no, I mean, I've
00:23:41.700
of course at this point, anything's possible, right?
00:23:44.700
There's a great book called, uh, when she was bad.
00:23:47.160
It's about female violence.
00:23:48.480
It's by a woman, Patricia Pearson.
00:23:49.960
She has a really compelling chapter about a sudden infant death syndrome, which where
00:23:56.680
there's this phenomenon that suddenly erupted in the seventies and eighties where all these
00:24:00.640
babies were just, you know, uh, the, the mom went to brush her teeth.
00:24:04.760
The baby's dead.
00:24:05.860
She said there's no evidence that there's any kind of, uh, any kind of medical condition
00:24:10.560
or syndrome that causes this.
00:24:11.860
She thinks it's infanticide.
00:24:13.840
Really?
00:24:15.240
And that, I mean, there are statistics, uh, as far as violence, I saw, I saw one stat
00:24:20.340
like 80% of the person's, like an 80% of the cases of person's first exposure to violence
00:24:26.140
in life will be at the hands of their mom.
00:24:28.200
Yeah.
00:24:28.760
And it's like, it's, I don't think it's pornography or the patriarchy or, you know,
00:24:33.380
combat sports that cause misogyny.
00:24:36.600
It's, I think it's being hit by your mom, perhaps.
00:24:39.340
Interesting.
00:24:39.440
Okay.
00:24:39.860
Yeah.
00:24:40.080
No, but it's, it's funny.
00:24:41.520
Like these, these constructions, like racism, sexism, it's, they're brilliantly constructed
00:24:48.340
cause it's, they imply that they couldn't like women or non-whites could possibly do
00:24:54.120
anything that would make someone hate them.
00:24:56.740
Right.
00:24:57.280
Right.
00:24:57.620
They have a complete like orb force field of innocence around them.
00:25:01.180
That's dangerous.
00:25:02.520
Cause that there, you will have, that will like invite all the psychopaths in that group
00:25:07.200
to forge all kinds of hate crimes.
00:25:09.100
And I just provided you with a great segue to that other story.
00:25:13.700
The Portland guy.
00:25:15.220
Oh, that one.
00:25:15.820
That's right.
00:25:16.240
Yeah.
00:25:16.380
Yeah.
00:25:16.500
Yeah.
00:25:16.660
Exactly.
00:25:17.080
Yeah.
00:25:17.200
We have a, we have a bunch of things we want to get into.
00:25:18.900
I've had a few encounters with that.
00:25:20.900
Last thing I want to mention about the abortion thing here.
00:25:23.560
And, you know, we kind of imply, you know, the, the demographics and stuff, right.
00:25:26.140
But like, you know, just, just look at something like this, right.
00:25:28.640
10,000 years of, of human activity and we have a parabolic growth, right.
00:25:33.700
And people like, what are you talking about?
00:25:34.860
Like deep, you know, uh, overpopulations, a globalist talking point.
00:25:38.120
And it's like, yes, it is.
00:25:38.900
They're using that against us.
00:25:40.140
They, they, they do want to limit our numbers.
00:25:41.740
I get that.
00:25:42.720
Uh, but the point is that doesn't mean that they're wrong.
00:25:44.620
I just don't want they to be the ones who choose it.
00:25:46.940
They, they're sadistic and they would like, obviously go for a dysgenic approach as opposed
00:25:50.620
to a eugenic one.
00:25:51.660
Right.
00:25:52.260
But I mean, I have, but how is this, look at this.
00:25:54.720
How, how is this, you know, where do we go from here?
00:25:58.320
You know, it's sustainable.
00:25:59.840
Yeah.
00:26:00.140
Another, another, well, you know, the, the disadvantage of being born in 1961 is that
00:26:04.900
you'll die sooner than other people.
00:26:06.620
But you, you also have some perspective.
00:26:09.120
I remember in the seventies, it was called ZPG.
00:26:12.960
They talked about zero population growth.
00:26:15.160
That was a firm thing in the leftist platform.
00:26:18.060
Was it the world's going to be overpopulated?
00:26:19.640
What was it, Paul Ehrlich, the population bomb?
00:26:21.920
Yep.
00:26:22.080
And you had the, uh, club of Rome, the limits to growth, you know, these kinds of publications
00:26:26.340
coming out in the seventies.
00:26:27.400
If you believe, you know, people create pollution and climate change, like more people just,
00:26:33.280
and especially in Africa is going to create more pollution.
00:26:36.640
My hunch, why the left started, stopped talking about overpopulation.
00:26:42.380
They looked at the charts and saw where all the population growth was.
00:26:45.840
And it's like, I guess, thought it would be racist to be against overpopulation because
00:26:49.760
it's not increasing in Europe or, you know, it's, you look at the map, we're going to
00:26:55.600
have like 4 billion, 10 billion by 10.
00:26:58.600
Oh, come on.
00:26:59.200
Yeah.
00:26:59.300
I think Steve Saylor like predicted 4 billion by the end of the century.
00:27:03.000
Now, 10 billion by 2050.
00:27:04.940
Oh man.
00:27:05.680
And of course, ironically, that's because of Western advancements, right?
00:27:08.960
I mean, these societies wouldn't be where they are without that.
00:27:11.300
And again, intervention where, I mean, I'm not saying, again, this is not about moral
00:27:15.360
or wrong or right.
00:27:16.160
It's just looking at it like in cold, hard, like facts and numbers.
00:27:18.840
And at the end, because at the end of the day, it's like, well, it's, it's, we might
00:27:22.380
not like it, but nature is the way it is.
00:27:24.460
And we didn't make up the rules.
00:27:25.660
And it's like, it's either our kids or it's, or it's their kids, you know, in a way.
00:27:29.460
Right.
00:27:29.960
Especially now, because I think we're, you know, yes, I know that the shortages and they're,
00:27:34.180
it's very artificial and they're seeking to use this to kind of reform society.
00:27:38.020
But, but it's anybody with a brain can look at this and just realize like, look, at some
00:27:44.420
point we have where there's a limitation to how much, how many mouths we can feed and what's
00:27:49.140
going to, is everyone going to live a first world lifestyle and, you know, have three cars
00:27:53.300
and, you know, a huge house and a boat and like, it's just not going to work.
00:27:57.380
You know what I mean?
00:27:57.780
And so at some point we have to make hard decisions.
00:28:00.120
And I prefer us to do that, take them now as opposed to wait and be passive and let, just,
00:28:05.600
just haul this off onto our kids or our grandkids, Jim.
00:28:09.200
Right.
00:28:09.780
Right.
00:28:10.480
No, it's, I mean, this is going to be an unpopular take too.
00:28:14.820
I think a flaw of human psychology is thinking there's an answer to everything or thinking
00:28:20.660
that we're, we're smart enough to figure it out.
00:28:22.780
I'm not smart enough to figure out how to cure overpopulation or the demographics problem.
00:28:27.040
Maybe someone else is, but there might not be an answer.
00:28:30.340
Well, I'm not sure abortion is the biggest problem we have right now.
00:28:35.340
So it's the people who haven't been aborted, the biggest problem now.
00:28:41.100
It's cruel and it's evil.
00:28:42.480
Again, I don't, I don't, I don't like the abortion.
00:28:44.580
They're not causing any problems.
00:28:45.860
It's the ones who slipped through the, the goalie.
00:28:49.060
Yeah.
00:28:49.560
No, again, I think, I think it's about, uh, I guess the kind of, there, there is such a
00:28:54.520
thing as, and it might be, I mean, to some that will just deny this and it sounds so contradictory
00:28:58.480
is just ridiculous, but like compassionate oriented eugenics.
00:29:03.120
Like what, if we can improve the human species overall, why would we not want to do that?
00:29:08.040
Why, why is it that, well, the Nazis, right?
00:29:10.260
That's the argument in a way, right?
00:29:11.360
They, well, they wanted eugenics.
00:29:12.560
So we have to do the exact opposite.
00:29:14.440
The only, you know, right thing to do, morally correct thing to do is to have as many, you
00:29:19.620
know, I don't mean to offend about it out there, but as many retards and dependent people
00:29:23.500
as possible, that's going to make things better, right?
00:29:26.540
Like, like, come on, you know, you know what I mean?
00:29:29.500
I mean, the Nazis, like, uh, they get blamed for a lot of things and they, uh, I mean,
00:29:33.940
you, you can't talk about any of those things, or you can't even talk about, I guess, like
00:29:37.840
by outgunning the Nazis, the Russians in the West, uh, this is, this is amazing to me.
00:29:45.580
They think that wars actually solve ideological problems.
00:29:48.800
The only things that wars solve is like, who was the better fighter, you know, and who had
00:29:52.340
the better military.
00:29:53.380
Right.
00:29:53.980
Yeah.
00:29:54.160
But like whoever wins gets to decide what's right and wrong.
00:29:57.240
So any ideas the Nazis had, you'll be killed for.
00:30:01.160
That's, that's just always been the way it works.
00:30:03.340
That's right.
00:30:03.940
And it's, I mean, I don't know.
00:30:06.660
You know the name Michael Malice?
00:30:08.760
Oh yeah.
00:30:09.180
Yeah.
00:30:09.680
He, uh, we were, we had each other's phone numbers talked, you know, once a week for,
00:30:14.420
but, uh, he had me on his show in late 2018 and he, uh, it was when my book whiteness,
00:30:19.280
the original sin came out and he was real skeptical that there's this concerted or that there's
00:30:25.960
even like a preponderance of anti-white rhetoric in the media, which is astonishing.
00:30:31.640
Wow.
00:30:32.080
Okay.
00:30:32.320
But the last thing he asked me and Michael Malice is this little Ukrainian Jewish guy.
00:30:37.820
He asked me if I thought that, uh, that Hitler gets a bad rap in the press and maybe this
00:30:42.960
was set up as a trap, you know, but he, I said, of course he does.
00:30:47.820
And he didn't let me elaborate.
00:30:49.260
That was the end of the show.
00:30:50.140
And he never talked to me after that.
00:30:51.620
Oh, geez.
00:30:52.440
Okay.
00:30:52.700
Well, there you go.
00:30:53.400
Right.
00:30:53.900
But it's, it's just common sense.
00:30:55.360
Like whoever loses a war is, of course, exactly.
00:30:57.920
Of course it becomes evil immediately.
00:31:00.260
No, they're totally fair and objective when it comes to this issue.
00:31:03.200
Right.
00:31:03.700
But it's, it's just this principle that the bad guys always lose.
00:31:07.980
I guess it's like a Hollywood movie.
00:31:10.060
Like what, what are the odds?
00:31:12.120
The Confederates were the bad guys and they lost.
00:31:14.620
And I guess, I mean, they, they revise that when it's, well, you know, it's, you never
00:31:21.800
hear them say to the Cherokee, oh, give it up.
00:31:24.040
You lost, like grow up.
00:31:25.400
It's the modern world.
00:31:26.660
Yeah.
00:31:27.080
It's only like white people who get, but shouldn't they, shouldn't, shouldn't one of the arguments
00:31:30.920
be, well, why did they not open their arms to diversity and, you know, multiculturalism
00:31:34.700
as we're expected to?
00:31:36.100
They, I have to tell you, like, I'll give it to them more than current white people in America.
00:31:40.960
These are fought back.
00:31:43.460
Ruthless fighters.
00:31:44.420
Yeah.
00:31:44.940
At least they did that as I'm, as I'm, you know, some balls in there.
00:31:48.680
I mean, okay.
00:31:49.580
Here's, I mean, yeah, I've told this story before, so I'm not, I mean, Gavin's a friend
00:31:54.200
and, uh, but the first night I met him, I was with this girl who was parked Cherokee.
00:31:59.620
I don't drink.
00:32:00.520
I haven't had a drink.
00:32:01.220
It's, I just passed 40 years without a drink.
00:32:04.220
And, uh, Gavin likes to drink.
00:32:06.440
This girl liked to drink and, uh, he's sloshed and she's sitting next to me.
00:32:11.840
He's like, so what's up with you guys?
00:32:13.260
The, the Indians.
00:32:14.240
It's like, you, you never could figure out the wheel.
00:32:18.060
Like, okay, I understand.
00:32:19.340
But you couldn't start with an octagon and then chip away and man, did she get pissed
00:32:24.160
off?
00:32:25.720
Yeah.
00:32:26.120
But that's, that's kind of what made me just realistic.
00:32:28.640
It's like, yeah, you know, there, there are, there's unfairness in the world, I guess,
00:32:34.440
if you think you can measure unfairness.
00:32:36.000
But, uh, the reason I think some of these oppressed indigenous people, people were overtaken
00:32:45.160
is they didn't know how to defend what they had.
00:32:48.840
Right.
00:32:49.180
They didn't have the technology, you know, it's, again, it's not right and wrong.
00:32:52.380
It's like, who has, like, who had guns and who had sticks?
00:32:55.640
Yeah.
00:32:55.960
I mean, that's usually what the term is.
00:32:57.560
I mean, that's, again, self-evident.
00:32:59.540
Like, you look at the rules of nature and there's no referee, no one's going to come
00:33:03.020
down.
00:33:03.260
No, no, no, no.
00:33:03.820
Hang on a sec.
00:33:04.420
You know, this is unfair.
00:33:05.480
You know, it's just like, no, it's ruthless, it's brutal, and it's a survival game at the
00:33:09.420
end of the day.
00:33:09.840
And you might not like it.
00:33:10.760
But the fact is, if you get your, well, that's why they call it pathological altruism, right?
00:33:15.260
You're so, you know, you care so much about everyone else that, like, yeah, you will be
00:33:19.020
replaced or you'll be removed or killed or whatever.
00:33:21.920
I mean, you could argue the same thing of, like, the person who's, like, an instinctual
00:33:25.240
feeling.
00:33:25.740
He's walking alone on the streets and there's a gang in front of him.
00:33:28.320
But, oh, one of these, it looks like it's just a bunch of, you know, black guys or in
00:33:32.520
Sweden is a Muslim gang or something, right?
00:33:34.720
But you're not allowed to, like, cross the street and go, you know, or, like, dodge off because
00:33:39.240
they, what if they get offended because they think you're a racist or something?
00:33:42.520
I've got a story related to that one.
00:33:44.620
And actually, there's a Michael Malice element in that one, too.
00:33:47.880
This is like, I did, it's in my Whiteness Original Sin book.
00:33:50.880
It's called Mugging Me Softly.
00:33:52.860
I was in Brooklyn and I had to meet Michael for dinner, had to walk like a mile on dark
00:33:57.840
streets.
00:33:59.620
And I'm walking along and I really, I mean, New York's supposed to be a first world city,
00:34:03.720
but some of these streets are really dark and poorly lit.
00:34:06.020
And I'm walking and all of a sudden, my peripheral vision, I see there's a black
00:34:09.220
guy walking about four to five feet to my right, but kind of keeping pace with me.
00:34:13.460
Your first instinct is to think, all right, just a coincidence.
00:34:16.140
One of us will walk faster.
00:34:17.940
No.
00:34:19.080
So I, you know, I went a full block.
00:34:21.100
He's right next to me.
00:34:21.960
I crossed the street and he's still tailing me.
00:34:24.320
After another half block, I stopped.
00:34:26.020
I'm like, what's up, man?
00:34:27.000
Why are you, like, tailing me?
00:34:29.920
And he looked dusted out.
00:34:31.080
He just, like, nodded his head.
00:34:33.580
But this is the capper on this.
00:34:37.200
Like, so I'm thinking, okay, I'm being set up for some kind of ambush.
00:34:40.740
I don't know what's going to happen.
00:34:42.220
Oh, there's, there's, there's my hometown.
00:34:44.420
There's Philadelphia.
00:34:45.900
That's Kensington.
00:34:47.280
Yeah.
00:34:47.540
I did a whole article about Kensington a few months back.
00:34:49.840
Uh, it's like the heroin, biggest heroin open air market in the United States now.
00:34:54.340
Crazy.
00:34:54.760
Yeah.
00:34:55.740
But this guy, and he went on for like six or seven blocks.
00:34:58.720
I finally saw in Williamsburg, these two girls were closing up a bakery.
00:35:02.640
I'd walk up to them and the white guy, the white guy, the black guy's walking right next
00:35:06.960
to me.
00:35:07.680
And I'm like, look, I know this is weird and this is not your issue or whatever, but this
00:35:11.580
guy won't tell me why he's following me.
00:35:13.640
And it's just kind of weird.
00:35:14.520
And like, well, you want to wait inside the bakery?
00:35:16.360
We can open.
00:35:16.800
I'm like, no, you know, uh, like you want us to call the cops?
00:35:20.320
And I'm like, I don't know the minute they said cops, he bolted.
00:35:24.720
Right.
00:35:25.040
Yeah.
00:35:25.300
But the punchline or the real tragedy that was going on is I'm walking along thinking
00:35:30.160
I might be setting being set up for murder, but if this guy attacks me and I fight back,
00:35:38.100
you got the shaved head, that's from brain surgery, but how is it going to look?
00:35:43.240
Yep.
00:35:44.180
Yep.
00:35:44.560
Imagine you have to like just defending yourself.
00:35:47.140
You worry if you're going to become the next Derek Chauvin.
00:35:49.740
Exactly.
00:35:50.320
Yep.
00:35:50.660
That's true.
00:35:51.600
Absolutely.
00:35:52.020
I've been thinking about that too.
00:35:52.900
Like if something happens, we're out or something like, I just have to basically run because
00:35:56.960
if I like, oh, he's a, he was a neo-Nazi and he had, you know what I mean?
00:36:01.200
Like, and it doesn't even matter who the, I was defending myself against, you know?
00:36:04.700
Is it just that it's the current year that makes it a neo-Nazi or is there a different
00:36:07.740
innovation?
00:36:08.620
Like, is there anything like, is it like new Coke or is like, is it, can you just, can you
00:36:14.720
be a classic Nazi these days?
00:36:16.780
I guess so.
00:36:17.600
Are they all neo-Nazi?
00:36:18.700
OG.
00:36:18.880
Like, no, I'm the OG, man.
00:36:21.580
This is astonishing because if you've ever seen any of the Rocky movies, this is where
00:36:24.920
Rocky lives.
00:36:25.620
This is Kensington.
00:36:26.580
Oh, really?
00:36:27.000
Yeah.
00:36:27.440
Wow.
00:36:27.640
There's a, Rocky 5's the one where he hires the, cause Rocky got brain damaged.
00:36:32.460
Imagine Sylvester Stallone trying, trying to sound dumber than he naturally sounds, but
00:36:37.380
he couldn't fight anymore.
00:36:38.220
So he, he hires a, uh, he becomes a pro is the protege is this young white boxer called
00:36:43.840
Tommy gun, who was actually Tommy Morrison, a blonde white guy from Tennessee who briefly
00:36:49.780
was the heavyweight champion in the early nineties.
00:36:51.960
But at the end, Rocky winds up fighting Tommy gun in the streets and you know, it's dark
00:36:57.280
and it's dingy, but you don't have tent cities and junkies shooting up and nodding out.
00:37:02.820
Right.
00:37:03.600
Kensington was always bad, but it's amazing how bad it is now.
00:37:07.900
Yeah.
00:37:08.020
I brought it up for the, you know, the New York reference there, obviously.
00:37:10.940
And again, I mean, it, it kind of harkens back to what we talked about that word, uh, 20
00:37:15.140
million edition.
00:37:15.740
Like, is this, is this the future you just to, for conservatives to win again, I'm not
00:37:20.500
saying it's right or wrong or, you know, I'm not trying to make a moral value judgment.
00:37:24.740
I'm just saying this is the future we're looking at if we don't do anything about all
00:37:28.860
the bullshit going on right now.
00:37:30.300
What's real noticeable.
00:37:31.100
Cause they're, that's either like Frankfurt Avenue, Frankfurt Avenue or Kensington Avenue.
00:37:35.280
It was kind of like turns into one, but the, it's under the elevated subway.
00:37:39.220
Yeah.
00:37:39.340
It says Frank Kensington.
00:37:40.820
There was a book written about it and I think it was 1968 called white town USA.
00:37:45.140
Oh yeah.
00:37:45.640
Yeah.
00:37:45.780
I remember that.
00:37:46.320
Yeah.
00:37:46.940
Uh, the dividing line, this street, the subway was a dividing line between almost entirely
00:37:52.740
Kensington in like 1968 was like 98% white, but these were like the descendants of Irish
00:37:58.400
and they were hardcore low class fighting whites.
00:38:03.160
And you, they, the blacks didn't, like they weren't caught in Kensington after sunset and
00:38:08.840
you sure as hell weren't white caught in the Philadelphia badlands, which were a buffer
00:38:13.560
zone between white Kensington badlands were the Puerto Rican neighborhoods, which were the
00:38:18.060
worst in Philadelphia.
00:38:20.020
Like same thing in New York, the South Bronx, like it looks like Dresden after world war two,
00:38:24.840
but it's mostly Puerto Rican.
00:38:25.880
I'm not sure like what the Puerto Ricans are doing wrong, but apparently I've known enough
00:38:30.880
Hispanics, no one likes Puerto Ricans.
00:38:33.520
They're like the, the Irish of the Hispanics.
00:38:36.180
But, um, uh, the thing is all those junkies you see, they're all interracial.
00:38:41.440
They're all living together and pooping on the streets and shooting up and dying.
00:38:45.760
You know, at least they're, they're, it's the future.
00:38:48.620
Our globalist wants for us, isn't it?
00:38:50.680
It's progress.
00:38:51.420
You could argue.
00:38:51.840
Exactly.
00:38:52.340
It's progress.
00:38:52.840
Everyone's getting along.
00:38:53.600
Everyone's equally miserable and like near death, you know?
00:38:57.000
Um, anyway, I want to bring it up this real quick here too, because I remember you, uh,
00:39:00.820
at the time you, you were, you know, you remember this, uh, I, I don't, I heard years later after
00:39:05.580
this, but Randy Weaver, uh, yesterday actually passed away at 74 years old.
00:39:08.940
And of course he's had the famous standoff with the FBI back in 1993, we said, was it?
00:39:16.160
Yeah.
00:39:16.320
And, uh, of course they shot.
00:39:17.740
I'm going to guess you're not a Seinfeld fan.
00:39:20.180
Uh, I've, I, I used to be.
00:39:22.500
Uh, do you remember Jay Peterman?
00:39:24.740
Jay, oh yeah.
00:39:25.620
The, the, the, the, the clothing catalog.
00:39:27.300
I do.
00:39:27.900
Yeah.
00:39:28.120
Yeah.
00:39:28.260
Yeah.
00:39:28.660
Randy Weaver always looked like Jay Peterman to me, but I remember watching the congressional
00:39:33.600
hearings cause he got Jerry Spence, G G E R R Y S P E N C E as his lawyer.
00:39:39.020
He used to be on TV all the time.
00:39:40.700
He had one of those fringe jackets and kind of looked like a hippie, but never lost a case.
00:39:45.600
And just cause Jerry Spence, Jerry Spence wasn't a white separatist who sold shotguns to undercover
00:39:50.660
officers, but he realized how Randy Weaver's rights have been violated.
00:39:54.740
Yeah.
00:39:54.960
Randy Weaver's just sitting there dignified.
00:39:57.840
He's talking about them sending robots down with messages and he's talking about the feds
00:40:03.480
killing his, I think his dog, his wife, his kid.
00:40:07.600
And his son.
00:40:08.020
Yeah.
00:40:08.660
I was almost pushed to tears cause it was like, man, this guy got, got rolled over bad.
00:40:13.160
And we were talking before filming, like Waco was like within nine months of this.
00:40:17.160
Yep.
00:40:17.380
These were super hard fed flexes, like in the early nineties.
00:40:21.080
Yeah.
00:40:22.060
To, to, to show you of what, like what is to come.
00:40:24.460
Right.
00:40:24.660
Because then you had what happened after the first, wait a minute, remind me again, when
00:40:29.360
was the first Gulf war was that 93 that that broke out?
00:40:33.000
No, that was, uh, I think like 89, 90.
00:40:35.480
Oh, it was a little earlier than, okay.
00:40:36.980
Yeah.
00:40:37.440
Okay.
00:40:37.840
Yeah.
00:40:38.080
Yeah.
00:40:38.120
So you had some of this stuff, right.
00:40:39.680
And then you had Lee later.
00:40:41.300
That was under Bush.
00:40:42.180
And when it was amazing, like his, his, the first Bush and his approval rating went up
00:40:45.820
to like over 90, which I don't think any president ever had right after we bombed Kuwait
00:40:52.040
and rolled over, you know, and, and marched towards Baghdad or whatever.
00:40:55.460
Well, you saved all those babies from the, uh, being thrown on the floor from the incubators.
00:40:58.740
Right.
00:40:58.960
So, I mean, that's, he, he lost anyway.
00:41:01.900
I mean, it only took him like a year and a half to, to like lose to Bill Clinton.
00:41:05.680
Yeah.
00:41:06.120
Yeah.
00:41:06.480
And then Bill, Bill certainly improved things.
00:41:08.440
And then you had, you know, nine 11, right.
00:41:10.140
Which is like this brief kind of detour of it.
00:41:12.360
I mean, again, that was obviously to advance, you know, foreign policy and, you know, you
00:41:16.020
could very well argue that's like, yeah, essentially on behalf of the neocons in Israel in this,
00:41:20.480
in the extension.
00:41:21.460
Right.
00:41:22.020
But you had that, you know, like, oh, it's the, the Muslims, right.
00:41:24.760
The terrorists and stuff.
00:41:25.660
And all these government things comes into place to like fight off the bad guy.
00:41:29.220
Right.
00:41:29.460
And look at how now, right.
00:41:31.040
How it's all turned in.
00:41:32.300
I remember people talking about it at the time, like, look, the department of Homeland Security,
00:41:36.400
like all these things are Orwellian crazy shit.
00:41:38.720
You don't want to have anything like this because eventually it will be turned against
00:41:41.820
your own population.
00:41:42.820
Right.
00:41:43.700
Exactly.
00:41:44.280
And, and just like with that, like I, the true and false over right and wrong, but like
00:41:49.460
when nine 11 happened and not that I think America is uniquely evil, I think America
00:41:54.320
is obviously an empire like this far from completely collapsing.
00:41:59.580
But my thought was, Hey, the U S went in and bombed the hell and the economic sanctions
00:42:04.620
on Iraq, a million Iraqi women and children died between the first Gulf war and nine 11.
00:42:10.320
Yeah.
00:42:11.120
What the hell do you expect to happen?
00:42:12.520
You expect them to just take it.
00:42:13.860
Yeah.
00:42:14.080
And it's, it's not in this term of, well, we're the good guys and they deserve, it's
00:42:17.020
like, it does cause and effect just like these.
00:42:19.600
And I talked to these people who should know better.
00:42:21.520
It's like Putin's out of his mind.
00:42:22.900
I'm like, so you believe whatever you're told, like, you don't think that there was
00:42:26.640
cause and effect and this is a power struggle, you know, NATO and.
00:42:31.220
And I don't even believe that like the official, I think it's a gay off from government.
00:42:35.600
Essentially the very least they allowed it to happen.
00:42:38.560
They had intelligence.
00:42:39.380
They knew about these people, right?
00:42:40.860
The whole out of story in Florida and like the flight school program.
00:42:44.580
And you have like, you know, them, them standing down or just, I mean, there's so
00:42:48.880
many, there's too much you can do now, but there's so many questions.
00:42:51.320
When I was a kid in the sixties, I almost said the fifties, let's not date myself too
00:42:55.820
much, but I remember like, they didn't even call them Muslims.
00:42:59.500
They called them Mohammedans.
00:43:00.780
They didn't call it Islam.
00:43:01.900
They called it, uh, Mohammedanism.
00:43:04.080
Mohammedans.
00:43:04.560
Yeah.
00:43:04.680
I remember that.
00:43:05.240
Yeah.
00:43:05.540
And, uh, it was just, these were people you never heard of and there's okay.
00:43:10.140
There's obscure people who wear like gowns like it, but it wasn't a threat.
00:43:15.500
But, uh, I'm sure there was some cause and effect once the U S started supporting Israel
00:43:20.560
because that's the thing.
00:43:22.080
Like you ask a killer why they killed and they might just be a pathological liar, but
00:43:27.000
have you ever heard a Muslim terrorist say, well, we hate your freedom.
00:43:32.100
Like one it's always, well, it's the U S supports Israel and Israel, you know, the claiming
00:43:39.240
that they have a right to this ancestral land, even though they don't really look middle
00:43:43.080
Eastern came in and I always say like, I mean, we look like establishing Israel after world
00:43:49.620
war two, like Sylvester Stallone couldn't have come up with a more obvious plot for
00:43:55.480
a sequel.
00:43:55.960
It's like, okay, yeah, take the Jews and surround them on 800 miles on every side with people
00:44:01.440
whose holy book says they're swine and devils and, and see how that works out.
00:44:06.500
I mean, I've suggest, I mean, what Hitler said, Madagascar, right?
00:44:10.300
Yeah, I believe so.
00:44:11.120
Yeah.
00:44:11.280
Give them Delaware.
00:44:14.160
No one goes to Delaware.
00:44:16.020
It's this basically what Delaware is.
00:44:17.760
People stop to pee between Philly and Baltimore and DC, relocate the Jews to, to Delaware.
00:44:24.720
I mean, and you know, give a check to everyone who lives in Delaware now and let them have
00:44:29.720
Delaware.
00:44:30.360
Well, now they want the Ukraine, right?
00:44:32.100
The old Khazarian empire.
00:44:33.440
The one where we go.
00:44:35.000
Oh God.
00:44:35.680
That's what I'm like.
00:44:36.180
What's, what's the latest on the Khazar theory?
00:44:38.280
Has that been entirely debunked or that one seemed to make sense to me?
00:44:42.160
Yeah.
00:44:42.320
I saw some pushback against it and, you know, there's, you know, genetic discussions, whether,
00:44:47.400
you know, you can find gene evidence or traces of this, but at least historically, I think
00:44:51.260
it's true that the, uh, they, they did, you know, convert.
00:44:54.760
I mean, recently you can say any people converted because it wasn't, it hasn't been with us.
00:44:59.140
Judaism or Christianity or any religion or belief system hasn't been with us from like
00:45:03.560
day one.
00:45:04.240
So everything, everyone has converted at some point, but regardless, I'm saying there was
00:45:08.120
like, uh, I guess one of the theories is right.
00:45:10.440
They were like actually an established like Jewish sect.
00:45:13.060
Right.
00:45:13.360
And then these Khazarians, which was more like, like a Turkic kind of people that later
00:45:18.480
on kind of like converted over to that.
00:45:20.780
And then that, uh, I mean, and some people like argue, well, and they're the bad guys
00:45:24.520
kind of thing, but you know, um, I mean, Ashkenazi, Sephardim, I mean, there's obviously
00:45:29.280
subgroups here anyway.
00:45:30.680
How amazing is it that like the dominant Jewish group has the word Nazi in their name?
00:45:37.540
It's like, uh, yeah, Ashkenazi, Nazi, right?
00:45:41.000
I think they're the real Nazis.
00:45:42.840
Let's, uh, let's do a boomer check on that.
00:45:45.320
No, I'm just joking there.
00:45:46.360
But, uh, no, I think, you know, it's, it's interesting because like, you know, you have
00:45:50.040
all this crazy shit's going on right now.
00:45:53.520
It's just, I mean, we're this close to collapse, right?
00:45:56.620
Uh, and at, and at every single level of like the, the, you know, going back to that
00:46:02.020
meme, right?
00:46:02.440
There's a new wave of like the later, the current thing, right?
00:46:05.260
Whatever the current thing is, but magically every, you know, major story and advancement
00:46:10.560
like that kind of fits into the greater narrative, right?
00:46:13.540
We, people call it now the great reset that's kind of caught on, right?
00:46:16.420
But you could call it the collapse.
00:46:17.760
You can call it the new world order, even whatever term you prefer, but that overarching,
00:46:21.500
like, you know, our world is being reformed in the, in, in their image, right?
00:46:26.740
These globalists.
00:46:27.900
I just, you know, as much as I'm against mind reading, I suspect most people truly believe
00:46:33.120
the news happens organically and they don't think it's chosen and sculpted for them, which
00:46:38.600
is like, that's going to be a big problem.
00:46:41.320
Cause like I, like I said earlier about Mark Twain, you cannot convince people they've been
00:46:45.200
fooled.
00:46:45.540
You can fool them, but don't convince them.
00:46:48.280
Like it's too humiliating.
00:46:50.180
Like, you mean I've gotten this passion?
00:46:51.940
I was out on the streets chanting and it was a lie.
00:46:54.960
Like that's too much for most people.
00:46:56.400
Oh yeah.
00:46:56.700
They will double down.
00:46:57.400
They'll, uh, they'll fund, they'll run to the comfort of the lie before they face the
00:47:02.540
harsh truth.
00:47:02.800
I mean, I think Russia is cool as hell.
00:47:05.880
My favorite boxers are Ukrainian.
00:47:08.140
I'm like, but it's not my fight.
00:47:10.100
And, uh, I, I don't know anyone who thinks it's going to be good for America.
00:47:14.940
It's not going to be.
00:47:15.980
And now Finland and Sweden is going to be joining NATO, effectively putting a crosshairs on them,
00:47:20.660
like for the first time in a very long time.
00:47:22.860
Like you, if you are seeking to replay or, you know, exchange essentially the, the little
00:47:28.560
autonomy and so-called independence that we do have left.
00:47:31.180
Like we're already, like we have powerful forces that are trying to destroy our countries
00:47:35.080
and trying to replace, you know, the native population in these countries and so forth.
00:47:38.360
But we have some autonomy, right?
00:47:41.080
Joining NATO for the sake of security certainly is not going to do it.
00:47:44.460
And it's just going to polarize the world for further.
00:47:46.560
And we're literally, I mean, on the, and I showed you the article, we can return to this
00:47:50.140
a bit later than, but the, uh, Wall Street Journal, right?
00:47:52.860
Uh, where is it?
00:47:54.160
Here it is.
00:47:54.620
Right.
00:47:54.800
Uh, the U S should show it can win a nuclear war, right?
00:47:58.820
They're like, they're gone.
00:48:00.880
Absolutely.
00:48:01.240
As someone who like went through the cold war born in 1960, like I was born right around
00:48:05.480
the time of the Cuban missile crisis, all they drilled into your head.
00:48:09.820
Like, you know, what a great move.
00:48:11.160
You ever seen the atomic cafe?
00:48:12.760
Oh yeah.
00:48:13.220
Yeah.
00:48:13.680
Classic.
00:48:14.660
This is what I, that's the propaganda I grew up with.
00:48:17.300
Yeah.
00:48:17.440
Nuclear war was imminent.
00:48:18.800
And you had to build a fallout shelter under your front lawn and, you know, hoard a hundred
00:48:24.620
thousand years worth of canned goods and everything.
00:48:28.320
But, uh, never back then do I remember any newspaper saying, well, we could win this.
00:48:34.600
So, you know, why not?
00:48:36.540
It's like everyone's lost their mind.
00:48:39.620
It's, it's, I mean, the last two years of the entire world has been gaslit, but like,
00:48:44.280
that's kind of irresponsible to be talking about nuclear, these same people who will
00:48:49.480
like slay you for using the wrong pronoun are, are freely talking about nuclear war.
00:48:54.520
That's, that's, I don't know the words overused, but terrifying.
00:48:58.720
Yeah.
00:48:59.220
Words is violence, right?
00:49:00.660
Words is violence, but we can actually antagonize and intentionally push the world to the brink
00:49:06.020
of, of nuclear, you know, destruction.
00:49:08.640
That's fine.
00:49:09.320
No, no worries.
00:49:09.860
Cause my Ukraine, right?
00:49:11.480
Yeah, it's, uh, it's sickening.
00:49:15.460
Yeah.
00:49:15.560
There's some footage, I guess, in this one here, but yeah, no, so they're, they're kind
00:49:18.180
of talking about here, um, Washington might study cold war era practices that had major
00:49:23.520
effect on Soviet policymaking.
00:49:25.120
In other words, we got to ramp it up and scare them.
00:49:26.960
Right.
00:49:27.140
And on the other side of the flip side of that, Russia have said, like basically anybody
00:49:30.700
that messes with us, like we'll, we'll nuke you, you know, and, and they have like,
00:49:34.360
you know, pretty extraordinary capabilities right now as well.
00:49:38.860
I think more than the U S at this point.
00:49:40.040
Yes.
00:49:40.400
I mean, uh, the hypersonic missiles, then they had the new, and I think they bring that
00:49:43.520
up in the beginning here too, the Sarmat, right?
00:49:46.100
The new type of, uh, intercontinental ballistic missile carrying a heavy nuclear payload.
00:49:51.480
And they've been testing that and stuff like that and warning, right?
00:49:54.220
But again, like, I mean, it's obvious that the U S NATO, the West and the extension and
00:49:58.580
those forces controlling the West, uh, is using Ukraine as a proxy.
00:50:02.360
If people really cared about Ukrainians and what happened, they would want to see an end
00:50:06.260
to this conflict because right now they're basically just sending them into their arming
00:50:09.960
them and sending them into the meat grinder and saying, yeah, go Ukraine, you know, kind
00:50:13.860
of thing.
00:50:15.440
And completely, like I said, it's a video game, completely oblivious to like what the
00:50:19.980
blowback might be or whether their city is just, I mean, I, uh, I live in the Atlanta
00:50:25.280
area, unfortunately, still we're near the CDC.
00:50:28.220
And I don't know enough about bio warfare, but could a terrorist like blow up or, or
00:50:34.040
do something to just unleash Ebola throughout Atlanta?
00:50:37.600
Yeah.
00:50:38.500
The fact that like, we're even discussing these things is, is it like, see, like as a possibility,
00:50:45.240
well, we might have to go to nuclear war.
00:50:46.740
It's like worry about the pronouns and like all the idiots, like you're talking about the
00:50:52.120
world ending.
00:50:52.960
Yeah.
00:50:53.360
Rather than some mentally disturbed person getting their feelings hurt and like everything's
00:50:58.260
upside down.
00:50:58.840
It's, it's crazy.
00:50:59.660
I, and I don't use the, the jargon, but yeah, talk about clown world.
00:51:04.160
Yeah, absolutely.
00:51:05.140
It's insane.
00:51:06.440
I mean, and it's, it's actually, it's like the, the movie Dr. Strangelove.
00:51:11.560
They're just like somebody accidentally, like this guy who was worried about his precious
00:51:15.280
bodily fluids started world war three.
00:51:18.120
Well, like a Charles Bronson movie, a death wish, right?
00:51:20.900
That's, that's basically what it is.
00:51:22.920
It's a death wish in a way, weirdly enough, maybe it's like a collectively speaking, like
00:51:28.300
a subconscious, like desire to just like end things because it's just, it's just such
00:51:33.460
in a rotten, bad state right now.
00:51:35.360
I, you know, I don't know.
00:51:36.260
There's obviously, you know, meddling forces here and stuff like that.
00:51:38.440
Right.
00:51:38.580
But it's this idea that like, you know, replacing one conflict with another.
00:51:43.540
And now conveniently, as we said before, uh, Jim, you know, and now it's like, as a consequence
00:51:47.700
of this, we're getting, uh, you know, petrol, uh, oil and gas shortages, we're getting food
00:51:52.620
shortages.
00:51:53.400
All these things are happening, just spiraling out of control because of this.
00:51:57.000
But the, I wonder too, cause everyone's been gas lit and lied to in ways they never have
00:52:02.560
systematically for the last two years, but still seem, except for, you know, internet arguing
00:52:08.180
and stuff still seem to hold it together.
00:52:10.720
But you wonder like when they finally let loose, is it going to be like nuclear war level
00:52:16.160
anger?
00:52:17.440
It's a real, it could be.
00:52:19.080
Yeah.
00:52:19.360
I know the times I've gotten hyper violent in my life.
00:52:22.520
It's cause I held it in for too long.
00:52:24.600
Yeah.
00:52:25.280
And then somebody looked at me the wrong way and bam.
00:52:28.180
But, uh, I, I've got a little concern.
00:52:31.120
That's where we are as, you know, Oh, nuclear war fine.
00:52:33.680
It's better than just sitting in front of a screen and not being able to go out and having
00:52:36.700
to wear a mask.
00:52:37.380
It's like, wow, like nothing, nothing close to that in my entire lifetime.
00:52:42.620
And I said many times too, like, I think everyone knows that the world's going to end
00:52:45.960
one day, but wired in the human DNA, you think it's going to happen five minutes after
00:52:50.820
you die.
00:52:52.060
Yeah.
00:52:52.520
And you, you know, bad things are going to happen, but not during my life.
00:52:56.300
Well, and then you do have religious factions who are like, you know, actually wanting this
00:53:00.140
because you know, that, that will mean the, you know, the, the, the saver will come back
00:53:03.740
or whatever, probably, you know, eschatology essentially, right.
00:53:06.120
That's like this end of the world ism.
00:53:08.340
Uh, and, and there's like a, you know, like a, almost a, a fascination with that.
00:53:13.100
Right.
00:53:13.280
It's like a conclusion to the story in a way.
00:53:15.780
Right.
00:53:16.720
It's, I mean, like, just like, just because you have this lust to fulfill the book of
00:53:21.280
revelation, like bring the world down just so you're not insecure that maybe what you
00:53:26.660
believe in was nonsense, it's, it's crazy thinking, but, uh, yeah, to want the world
00:53:32.020
then it's like, just kill yourself.
00:53:33.280
Like, don't, don't, don't spread the self-hatred throughout the world.
00:53:37.200
It's a crab mentality.
00:53:38.000
Like if I can't have it, no one will, you know, kind of like psycho sociopathic behavior,
00:53:42.980
right.
00:53:43.720
Uh, the girl I wound up going to prison over confessed on an online forum that the main
00:53:50.760
reason she put me away was that, so no other, like if, if I can't have them, nobody's going
00:53:55.920
to, yeah, right.
00:53:56.840
Exactly.
00:53:57.280
True.
00:53:57.540
True.
00:53:57.840
Psychotic.
00:53:58.320
Right.
00:53:58.780
Let's do this.
00:53:59.460
Well, I mean, how psychotic was I getting involved with someone like that?
00:54:02.740
That's, that's what I've finally learned over the past few years.
00:54:05.460
It's like, well, Jim, there's this pattern and you know what?
00:54:08.220
You were right about every one of them, but.
00:54:10.140
You got to learn to listen to that voice.
00:54:11.940
Exactly.
00:54:12.380
Right.
00:54:12.560
You got to, you got to learn from it and listen to that voice.
00:54:14.940
That's, that's hard sometimes.
00:54:16.320
We're going to take a break in a little bit.
00:54:17.540
I'm going to continue.
00:54:18.140
And I won't ask you about, you know, there's, it's funny because like literally as the world
00:54:21.920
is falling apart and, and the opportunities would of course be great.
00:54:25.880
Again, I want to, uh, uh, get into this too deeply now, so we'll wait, but you know, to
00:54:30.080
kind of a little teaser for the audience here, talk about some of the drama and all that stuff
00:54:33.700
happy that's been unfolding over the last couple of weeks.
00:54:35.400
I kind of see this period as like a, an amazing recruitment opportunity essentially.
00:54:39.960
Right.
00:54:40.120
Because there's a lot of normies out there now that like, what the hell, like what the hell
00:54:43.840
is going on?
00:54:44.420
Right.
00:54:45.060
And you'd think then that the right wing or whatever you want to call it would be like,
00:54:48.140
unified and like, you know, pushing an information battle to like, you know, gobble up as many
00:54:53.560
as possible, utilize the times and stuff.
00:54:55.520
No, it's that it's descendant into this Spurgy clown world, uh, shit.
00:54:59.240
But so I want to ask you more about that later.
00:55:01.320
I know you were roped into that a little bit as well.
00:55:03.520
So, so that's something coming up here, but this one, you know, you lived in Portland for
00:55:07.620
a while.
00:55:08.280
Did you, I'm not sure if you knew this journalist, but basically Gracie Antifa lunatic left-wing
00:55:13.280
journalist.
00:55:13.640
Tell us, tell us about what happened here.
00:55:15.380
Oh man.
00:55:16.500
Uh, back in 2017, because the Portland was like the Bermuda triangle for me.
00:55:21.440
We, uh, we tried to, wanted to get away from like the insanity of LA.
00:55:25.300
We lived in LA, me and my first wife for seven years from 87 to 94.
00:55:29.380
We lived through the Rodney King riots, the Northridge earthquake.
00:55:32.420
Uh, I think in those seven years at LA County went from 17 to 43% Hispanic and, you know,
00:55:40.580
crack wars, the OJ, like everything.
00:55:43.780
We thought we'd find some peace in Portland.
00:55:45.780
Cause it was this Portland back in the early nineties was this, I remember joking like
00:55:49.680
this isn't a city.
00:55:50.480
This is like a Swiss villa.
00:55:52.220
It's beautiful.
00:55:53.560
You can see Mount hood like 80 miles away, no homeless people, but now what's become
00:56:00.240
of it.
00:56:00.500
My God.
00:56:00.840
But I was, uh, I was the bet noir cause I moved there.
00:56:05.140
I was not welcome.
00:56:06.520
All these scandals related to the magazine I did, like the, there was an obscenity trial,
00:56:11.500
a guy shot at the white house and quoted me three British, like goth Nazis killed themselves.
00:56:18.200
One of them sent me life savings.
00:56:19.820
So I was, I mean, not well, but to see what's become of it.
00:56:23.980
But anyway, back in 2017, there was this guy and he's well-intentioned.
00:56:28.940
He's this ginger guy named Alan.
00:56:31.380
He was a proud boy and he wrote some, some, uh, and I, I just, I mean, I'm not into men's
00:56:38.480
clubs or anything, but I understand the need for the proud boys as far as like protecting
00:56:43.320
Ann Coulter, like to be able to speak cause the left had gotten so violent.
00:56:46.800
But this guy, Alan did a review of my book, the redneck manifesto.
00:56:50.940
And he said, this could be the proud boy Bible.
00:56:53.860
I'm like, Oh, like not, there's really, it's, it's a book about the history of the demonization
00:57:00.660
of poor whites and how they were.
00:57:03.120
But people have, I've been blamed for the proud.
00:57:06.000
And this article basically blamed me for bringing street violence to Portland.
00:57:09.860
And it was, it was an unflattering profile, but Portland's so nuts.
00:57:16.680
They, some of these people were, and they're always trying to out, out purify each other
00:57:20.980
with the extreme leftism.
00:57:22.460
Someone dropped, uh, dumped a ton of topsoil into the parking lot of this publication at
00:57:30.920
the time.
00:57:31.780
Cause these people are big on guilt by association.
00:57:34.200
There was a woman, Chloe, you daily who used to have a little bookstore called reading
00:57:39.600
frenzy.
00:57:40.180
And when the redneck manifesto came out, she invited me to, to read there, read the book,
00:57:45.520
you know, and place was packed, not a problem back then.
00:57:49.060
She said, since become the, uh, the Portland, one of the three Portland city commissioners
00:57:53.580
and people were grilling her.
00:57:56.160
It's like, why did you let this neo-Nazi racist creep speak?
00:58:00.860
And she was, and you know, she disavowed me as hard as she could, but this guy, Mike
00:58:07.400
Bivens, B I V I N S, he and a couple other people, they heard this rumor that Chloe had
00:58:13.080
put, yeah, look at this haunted little elf, not a happy guy.
00:58:17.560
No, but he, he and another, they were like railing on Chloe.
00:58:21.980
It's like, why did you host this guy?
00:58:23.460
But someone like, cause Chloe used to go out with a friend of mine, Sean Tedarachi, who's
00:58:28.880
a graphics genius.
00:58:30.260
He does pretty much all of my book covers and everything.
00:58:33.200
But somehow rumors started that Chloe put money on my books when I was in jail in Portland.
00:58:40.260
And this Mike Bivens guy kept me like, did you that?
00:58:43.440
Yeah.
00:58:43.900
I'm like, please.
00:58:45.220
Like they, they Photoshop that picture.
00:58:47.480
Like I asked, I asked Sean, it's like, that's the worst pick.
00:58:50.420
It's also the first picture that comes up when you search my name.
00:58:53.120
So of course, sore spot right there.
00:58:55.120
But, uh, I said to a Mike, like, you know, I have a podcast.
00:58:59.920
Come on.
00:59:00.220
We can talk.
00:59:00.720
I'll tell you everything I know about Chloe, but you got to face me man to man.
00:59:04.100
Like, you know, you just want something from me to nail somebody else who's never been
00:59:09.060
unkind and he wouldn't do it.
00:59:11.240
But then like, I see that this guy had a, this Mike bit.
00:59:15.520
I'm like, when, and this is five years later.
00:59:17.040
I'm like, Mike Bivens is the guy who investigated the alt-right, you know, self-described journalist.
00:59:23.640
And now he's being charged, arrested with, uh, attacking two synagogues and trying to set
00:59:29.540
a mosque on fire.
00:59:32.420
First thing I thought is hate crime hoax.
00:59:34.440
Like, obviously.
00:59:35.280
Yeah, of course.
00:59:35.940
Yeah.
00:59:36.700
The weird thing, a couple of things that make this completely different than other hate
00:59:40.460
crime hoaxes.
00:59:41.340
And I'm kind of a scholar on hate crime hoaxes.
00:59:43.980
Portland up until this point had my favorite all time hate crime hoax.
00:59:48.060
Number one.
00:59:48.800
I mean, once I interviewed Richard Spencer like five years ago, I know how unpopular
00:59:54.820
he is.
00:59:55.460
I don't, I don't know why that happened, but no comment beyond that.
01:00:00.700
But I asked him like, you know, are you a white supremacist?
01:00:03.500
Like, well, supreme in what?
01:00:05.120
Like, he's like, they're supreme in my heart, but clearly they're not the best runners.
01:00:08.700
You know, would you agree with me?
01:00:11.840
Blacks are supreme at giving their kids interesting names.
01:00:14.940
This woman's was, her name was Azalea Cooley.
01:00:19.700
Black, lesbian, wheelchair, chair bound, right.
01:00:25.760
And, uh, dying of cancer.
01:00:29.140
And she told the cops that like neon, like her house had been spray painted with the N
01:00:35.860
word and swastikas and everything.
01:00:37.640
And there were vigils, there were parades, like sympathetic, you know, allies put up
01:00:44.620
cam, the cameras didn't work.
01:00:45.860
The cops put up cameras to film her house from like a, an adjoining apartment.
01:00:51.560
What did they see on the video camera?
01:00:54.080
Azalea is on her back porch in her wheelchair.
01:00:56.480
She gets up, stands up, walks and plants a, a wooden, little wooden cross in a flower pot
01:01:02.780
and lights it.
01:01:03.400
She was lighting her, burning her own crosses.
01:01:05.700
Yep.
01:01:06.320
There you go.
01:01:06.820
Up until this week, that was my favorite all time hate crime hoax.
01:01:10.820
Yeah.
01:01:11.800
This guy is completely different.
01:01:13.320
He's a white male.
01:01:14.220
I don't think he claims Jew or anything.
01:01:16.460
Mike Bivens.
01:01:17.420
I don't think Bivens is a, you know, some kind of Germanic Ashkenazi, Yiddish hybrid.
01:01:22.920
He, um, but like he, he was a rabid street, called himself a street journalist, like filming
01:01:30.420
the fights between proud boys and Patriot prayer against Antifa for years.
01:01:37.220
That's what he was known for.
01:01:38.200
And he, he, he, he wrote for Willamette week.
01:01:40.740
The ones that did the hit piece on me, he, he, he wrote for Al Jazeera, you know, suddenly
01:01:45.300
he was an expert on hate in the streets.
01:01:47.280
But then I started looking into his Twitter history and the last six months, he's saying
01:01:52.840
how great Elon Musk is, that abortion's a crime, that Kamala, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden
01:01:58.460
are evil and that they, the media under reports hate crimes against whites.
01:02:03.160
I'm like, what happened to this guy?
01:02:05.980
Apparently like over the winter, he got divorced and he was living in hotels and out on the street
01:02:10.840
and half the time.
01:02:12.880
But what's really weird, it was over the, it was like late April, early May.
01:02:17.280
He, he attacked, he like threw a rock through one synagogue window.
01:02:21.240
He, uh, I don't know how you pronounce it in German, D-Juden, like D-I-E-J-U-D-E-N.
01:02:27.240
I don't know if he thought that meant die Jews.
01:02:29.180
I think it just means the Jews in German.
01:02:31.320
Did that on another one.
01:02:32.800
Yes, it does.
01:02:33.240
Like you gotta like read the handbook before you become a fake Nazi.
01:02:37.900
Then he tried, uh, immolating this mosque while a prayer meeting was going on twice and
01:02:43.340
failed.
01:02:43.720
Then he comes back and does something else to one of the synagogues like that the following
01:02:49.640
Wednesday, then marches himself to a local TV station.
01:02:54.340
There's surveillance footage of him, like knocking on the door of the TV station.
01:02:58.460
The unidentified worker, the TV station said he, he confessed to the crime.
01:03:02.660
He showed them the hammer and the ice pick that he used to smash windows in this, this, uh,
01:03:08.060
synagogue.
01:03:09.300
And he said, I'm going to come back Friday, but first I want you to research.
01:03:12.740
I want you to contact these three religious organizations and I want you to research my
01:03:16.880
crimes, which is weird.
01:03:18.980
Cause usually a hate crime hoaxer is trying to like say they were victimized, but this
01:03:23.180
is a white guy.
01:03:24.140
He comes, the idiot comes back Friday and it promptly gets arrested.
01:03:29.300
But the whole situation is like the weirdest hate crime hoax I've ever seen, or maybe it
01:03:33.700
wasn't a hoax.
01:03:34.260
Only two possibilities.
01:03:35.340
Like either he's just a natural born fanatic and he went from like, you know, rabbit Antifa
01:03:42.000
guy, but still had such a cartoonish idea of what a right winger was.
01:03:46.500
Maybe he thought he'd get seen clout.
01:03:48.460
Oh, you know, I'm right wing now.
01:03:49.780
So I'll start bombing, you know, or I'll start, yeah, cause that's what we do, right?
01:03:54.140
So, so that's, that's one, maybe he's just like basic that way.
01:03:58.900
Right.
01:03:59.460
The fact that he wanted to get attention for it, my theory for this is he, he puts so much
01:04:05.480
effort into LARPing as a right wing guy for six, but like friends, cause it was a new Twitter
01:04:11.060
account.
01:04:11.400
He'd been knocked off Twitter, but they said this change was like two or three or four years.
01:04:16.380
But I'm thinking this guy LARPed as a stereotypical right wing guy.
01:04:22.400
And so what's he going to do?
01:04:23.680
Like the fact that he wanted to get caught, I suspect the guy's whole deal is he's going
01:04:28.800
to say, well, I was radicalized.
01:04:31.380
Do you know, does this ring a bell?
01:04:33.340
I was radicalized by alt-right memes.
01:04:35.560
Oh yes, of course.
01:04:36.920
Okay.
01:04:37.040
You know who's, who did that video that's conveniently been scrubbed from the existence.
01:04:41.500
Yep.
01:04:41.800
Yep.
01:04:42.000
So I think this guy's going to go for the, I was, and this is a reason like, look, I
01:04:47.480
started reading this stuff and I thought Elon Musk was cool.
01:04:50.120
And like, immediately I'm burning mosques and attacking synagogues.
01:04:54.100
So you're saying that just the Elon Musk connection, cause that's interesting.
01:04:57.380
I was aware that's developing now.
01:04:58.320
It was a ton of things like before something about like, there's this tamale vendor in my
01:05:02.280
street, like Portland's turning into Mexico.
01:05:04.900
Yeah.
01:05:05.100
It was all this stuff that you would think somebody who followed right wing Twitter would
01:05:09.500
say, right.
01:05:11.180
My hunch is that it was all insincere, but he was just trying to build this foolproof, like
01:05:15.820
way to just completely eliminate any kind of that sort of speech.
01:05:19.620
Yeah.
01:05:19.960
Or maybe he's just nuts.
01:05:22.200
Yeah, exactly.
01:05:23.080
No, that of course it's a very high possibility as well, but yeah, no, it could be, yeah, a little
01:05:27.720
some, some mini gay op in order to get a, like a life changing story later on or something,
01:05:32.680
right.
01:05:32.880
Like, or, or this is what I was radicalized by.
01:05:36.220
Therefore we have to, you know, mitigate, control, limit this type of information, blah,
01:05:40.560
blah, blah.
01:05:40.860
You could see it.
01:05:41.460
Right.
01:05:42.200
Um, so the, the, the headlines write themselves on some of these, some of these stories, right.
01:05:46.960
It's, it's insane how that, I mean, they got the diversity they wanted and it was, it's
01:05:53.940
weird.
01:05:54.140
I mean, when I moved there in 94, it was such a safe city.
01:05:57.320
You could pretty much walk naked through downtown at night and people would just think you're
01:06:02.160
weird.
01:06:02.680
Now, like you have to carry a gun in downtown Portland, man, at night.
01:06:06.480
Insane.
01:06:07.080
Absolutely insane.
01:06:07.960
Right.
01:06:08.440
Yeah.
01:06:08.660
So synagogues and stuff and, and, and a mosque and, and, and again, even like, obviously that's,
01:06:14.920
uh, one-on-one is like, okay, well how, if you were sincere, how would this advance any
01:06:20.760
of the issues that you're concerned with?
01:06:22.820
Obviously it's just, again, it's, no, it's literally the worst thing you can do.
01:06:26.960
Right.
01:06:27.060
I, uh, I know a guy that, uh, lives in Portland.
01:06:29.960
I knew him back when I lived there, but he, uh, he was working with the homeless template.
01:06:34.040
Like he had a job at some like homeless agency, but the, the stories he told me, the things
01:06:40.420
that they get away with and any minority worker there will just build the company for 200 hours
01:06:45.800
and not do any work.
01:06:47.580
And Portland's one of these cities where they're rolling out these free crack pipes and crack
01:06:51.880
kits.
01:06:53.580
And, uh, I mean, he saw a crocodile there and just all sorts of insanity.
01:06:59.500
The guy also, he's a really nice guy, but his wife left him to become a street junkie
01:07:05.100
in Portland.
01:07:05.580
And I called him the other day cause I wanted to ask him about this Mike Biven situation.
01:07:10.500
He was on his way downtown Portland.
01:07:13.640
He was summoned to appear in court.
01:07:15.820
His junkie wife who has like flesh eating disease, like all these junkie conditions apparently
01:07:21.900
got knocked up by some other homeless person and had a baby and they both abandoned it and
01:07:29.640
they delivered my friend papers cause apparently the way the law works in Oregon now he's responsible
01:07:34.920
for this baby.
01:07:37.640
Wow.
01:07:38.180
Really?
01:07:38.840
Interesting.
01:07:39.620
Okay.
01:07:41.200
Portland's just, I mean, what a great, he's going to be a great father too.
01:07:44.560
So, you know, well, he's not even the dad, uh, going to get nailed for it.
01:07:50.200
Yeah, man.
01:07:51.140
Wow.
01:07:51.520
But the transformation of that city, but it was strange.
01:07:54.020
I mean, like I said, I had so many bad things happen and I just, I was in the wrong place
01:07:57.760
at the wrong time.
01:07:59.000
And, uh, when did you finally leave there?
01:08:01.420
How many years were you there?
01:08:02.400
I was there from 94 to 2005.
01:08:05.460
I left in May of 2005.
01:08:08.100
You endured for a long time.
01:08:09.600
That's more patience than I would have for sure.
01:08:12.420
Well, I mean, well, I was in Oregon 11 years, two and a half of them were incarcerated, but
01:08:17.420
when I got, it just got worse.
01:08:18.680
And I've told the stories about being like stalked by the, uh, you didn't even hear the
01:08:24.820
word Antifa 20 years ago in Portland, but there were the anti-racist skinheads that, uh,
01:08:30.860
who had carte blanche to beat up anybody they called a Nazi.
01:08:33.720
Yeah.
01:08:34.260
Yeah.
01:08:34.800
Yeah.
01:08:35.160
So same as today.
01:08:35.800
So it's been nuts, but it's just, it's like whatever was wrong with Portland has metastasized
01:08:40.700
over the years.
01:08:41.360
Oh yeah.
01:08:41.740
So do you think we'll get any answers in this trial dates and like, do you think more will
01:08:46.100
come to light of like motivations and stuff or, uh, what's there might be a, uh, a link
01:08:50.760
there where he appeared in court and I don't know if you ever, you know who David son of
01:08:55.020
Sam Berkowitz was like, do you ever see the photos of him when he was being like, you know,
01:08:59.860
on his perp walk, he had this weird placid smile.
01:09:04.720
I think I linked to that there.
01:09:05.980
Like if you look up Berkowitz links around, but like when this guy appeared in court, he
01:09:09.780
was making, making these inappropriate grins and he flexed his arm and everything.
01:09:14.160
There's David Burke.
01:09:15.120
Like that's scarier than if you look malevolent, like he just shot, you know, six different
01:09:21.020
people at night and terrorized the city when the city was like Armageddon.
01:09:25.760
Anyway, New York in the mid seventies was hell on earth.
01:09:28.800
Yeah.
01:09:29.040
But there's a court appearance or arraignment or something.
01:09:33.180
Yeah.
01:09:33.620
Yeah.
01:09:33.780
Look how like, he's just acting wacky.
01:09:36.760
Let me go forward here a bit.
01:09:39.440
Well, this is like, I mean, we've seen so many of these like mass shooters.
01:09:42.640
Yeah.
01:09:44.020
That are like completely, just completely whacked out.
01:09:46.900
And like, obviously they're like, I mean, they're mentally, you know, if they're not,
01:09:51.040
I'm not going to say, Oh, he's, he's mind control.
01:09:52.640
I'm going to say that.
01:09:53.100
But you know, like some of these people are like clearly been like, you know,
01:09:57.700
manipulated.
01:09:58.880
What I noticed too is like his friend, his former friends in Portland were, Oh, Mike's
01:10:03.180
having some mental health issues, but yeah.
01:10:07.040
They would never gave that.
01:10:08.260
And like, I, it's like, why didn't I say I was mentally ill, but I don't think I would
01:10:12.420
have gotten the same slack in Portland.
01:10:14.120
Right.
01:10:14.360
Exactly.
01:10:15.080
No, that's interesting.
01:10:15.900
Yeah.
01:10:16.260
No, so some of these individuals that are, okay, it's not, here we go.
01:10:18.860
Now it's loading.
01:10:20.160
They're not, they're clearly, I mean, yeah, they're attracted to all the, just making weird.
01:10:26.880
So he's, I mean, who knows MK ultra, like maybe he's just some kind of just drugs and
01:10:32.420
like, you know, like enough meth or fentanyl or both.
01:10:35.280
And then just like, you know, being in these political spheres and stuff.
01:10:38.700
And they're like, no, I'm a, I'm a right winger now.
01:10:41.140
And now, you know, and this is what we do.
01:10:42.660
We go and bomb synagogues and stuff because that's where I've read it in the paper.
01:10:45.880
But that's what makes me suspect that he's, look at this guy.
01:10:48.760
Ah, that's not, something's not right with this guy.
01:10:51.340
Yeah.
01:10:51.940
Obviously.
01:10:54.500
That, uh.
01:10:55.240
Yeah.
01:10:55.480
Demon possessed elf or whatever.
01:10:56.960
Exactly.
01:10:57.420
Right.
01:10:57.900
But yeah, that's, that's such an odd synagogue assault.
01:11:02.580
That's, that's, I've never really seen it.
01:11:04.580
It's funny though.
01:11:05.380
You deal with harassers and stuff or, but, uh, the only thing that's,
01:11:08.680
the only thing where it's not tedious, just like with the hate crime hoaxes.
01:11:11.180
They're so samey.
01:11:12.000
I guess it's a little, it's refreshing that this guy took a new angle on it.
01:11:17.100
I've never really seen it.
01:11:18.960
But it's funny how.
01:11:20.100
These components.
01:11:21.220
All that's like, you know, he's like, bye everybody.
01:11:23.320
And at the end there, uh, I wonder if it's, it's interesting that it's always like,
01:11:28.040
so you can have a, obviously like a complete lunatic and stuff, but somehow his behavior
01:11:33.460
is then automatically attached to like, you know, rational debates around the issue of
01:11:38.600
like, well, should we have open borders or whatever?
01:11:41.300
You know what I mean?
01:11:41.640
Like some, some, or like the replacement thing or whatever, right?
01:11:45.820
Immigration, the wider discussion of that.
01:11:48.180
They can take that and then they can attach that with us.
01:11:50.480
Yeah.
01:11:50.500
Like anybody who has these opinions is mentally ill and must be put away.
01:11:54.800
Exactly.
01:11:55.340
Yep.
01:11:55.620
Yep.
01:11:55.860
Again, we got to control that or something.
01:11:57.360
That's pretty Soviet, you know?
01:11:59.160
Absolutely.
01:11:59.720
Absolutely.
01:12:00.220
No, but any kind of dissenting thought is, is you don't disagree.
01:12:03.800
You're, you're nuts.
01:12:04.600
I think that that is where this is going.
01:12:06.920
I think ultimately they'll say, no, the people that don't like adhere to our view, they're
01:12:10.120
mental, they have mental problems and we're going to need to medicate against that too.
01:12:13.320
Cause otherwise it's a threat to our democracy and it will put lives at risk.
01:12:16.800
And it's the only sensible thing to do.
01:12:18.900
You know?
01:12:19.140
I remember like 10 years ago, somebody in the Amren comments was saying something about
01:12:22.760
like, they're going to, the, what is it?
01:12:24.420
DMS five or whatever, the diagnostic statistical manual where they determine what's mentally
01:12:29.160
ill, that they're going to come up with something called chronic bias.
01:12:32.740
And that just thinking that, you know, preferring your own kind or like holding, like not believing
01:12:39.000
in equality, that's going to be recategorized as mental illness.
01:12:42.860
And, uh, you know, they have things like this, right?
01:12:45.620
They have basically now medications and pills are going to solve a pill that could prevent
01:12:49.940
racism, right?
01:12:51.100
I did an, I did an article about this pill.
01:12:53.840
It was called give the bigots a pill.
01:12:55.500
I did it for tacky's mag.
01:12:56.760
Like it was, it's some kind of heart medication, but it also prevents you from that.
01:13:05.380
What was the study?
01:13:06.640
It was like five, 10 years ago where they found there's certain kids who like didn't show
01:13:12.040
any bias or, but it was because they didn't have some sort of protective mechanism in their,
01:13:16.800
their minds.
01:13:18.100
Basically what this pill does is it, uh, it weakens your defenses against.
01:13:22.820
Yeah, you're, you're, you're in, yeah, beta blocker propranolol, right?
01:13:27.400
Uh, I think that's it.
01:13:28.820
And lower doses and stuff.
01:13:30.340
Exactly.
01:13:30.700
So basically, yeah, you're basically like give, you're giving up, right?
01:13:33.820
You basically have no more, uh, concern.
01:13:36.380
But the metric they used even 10 years ago, cause this is a little over 10 years ago to
01:13:40.500
determine racism in the same article, give the bigots a pill was the, uh, was the I,
01:13:45.620
I, I, AI, it's the, uh, Harvard implicit association bias test where what they do
01:13:52.700
is, and this is the scientific idea behind this.
01:13:55.180
They start, start you off slow and black faces, white faces, good, bad, evil, dangerous.
01:14:00.880
And they, they speed it up so fast that like you can't possibly fake it.
01:14:05.960
Oh, I remember this unleash your unconscious bias.
01:14:09.240
Right.
01:14:09.540
Right.
01:14:09.800
And I took the test five times, scored five different results entirely.
01:14:16.840
Yeah.
01:14:17.520
So this completely unscientific fraudulent, unscientific fraudulent test that they're
01:14:22.580
using, they're going to use as an excuse to medicate people into lowering the defenses
01:14:28.280
and, you know, getting raped or attacked or.
01:14:30.780
Okay.
01:14:31.000
It's going to be the first time ever that's happening.
01:14:33.900
Yeah.
01:14:34.960
Oh my God.
01:14:35.800
Anyway, that's good.
01:14:36.660
We, let's take a break here, uh, Jim, and we'll get into, yeah, I mean, there's other
01:14:40.120
stuff here.
01:14:40.500
Drama.
01:14:40.860
I want to talk about the shortages and stuff.
01:14:42.160
The Biden regime is driving us completely into the ground here, but, uh, what do you
01:14:46.640
got coming out?
01:14:47.220
Tell us about some of the books you do have and if there's something new that people should
01:14:50.040
look out for.
01:14:50.840
You know, it's, what's interesting is if you can get me in that answer me shirt.
01:14:53.940
Yeah.
01:14:54.400
That's where I made my bones, that magazine I did in the early nineties that caused all
01:14:57.920
sorts of scandals, man, uh, dealing with a printer right now, they printed it five years
01:15:04.820
ago and I decided to do a new reprint.
01:15:07.420
Uh, Nick Bugis did the, the new cover and it's going to be hard cover, glossy paper.
01:15:14.420
Every original page of this ancient magazine that was done 30 years ago has been colorized.
01:15:18.700
Nick Bugis colorized all, almost all the line art.
01:15:22.780
Some of the original artists colorized it too, but, uh, and the thing's been delayed,
01:15:29.360
delayed, delayed, paper shortages, all this stuff.
01:15:31.700
So earlier this week I sent them the files and I was supposed to put the down, I was
01:15:37.440
supposed to pay in full for the print run on Wednesday, but now it might not happen because
01:15:42.960
they're upset about the content in the magazine.
01:15:45.760
Oh no, you're kidding.
01:15:47.380
Really?
01:15:48.740
Yeah.
01:15:49.520
Oh man.
01:15:50.500
It's always something, isn't it?
01:15:51.800
Like, even though it's funny, like the salesman and he's a nice enough guy, but like he was,
01:15:56.780
and I'm like, guys, you printed this five years ago, but like we were talking, all we're
01:16:00.160
talking about are specs and how many, how much, what kind of paper.
01:16:04.660
But like, he didn't, I guess he didn't even know what they were printing, but he gave me
01:16:09.000
this.
01:16:09.220
He's like, what's in the magazine, Jim?
01:16:10.760
Like, like I betrayed him.
01:16:12.100
Like I lied to him or, and I'm like, it's, you know, it's something we did 30 years ago.
01:16:17.500
And I guess like the three of the issues, one was about murder, one was about suicide,
01:16:21.560
one was about rape.
01:16:22.280
He's like, Oh, rape.
01:16:23.220
Great.
01:16:23.460
And I'm like, but you know, like I've learned you don't even try to say, you know, it's no,
01:16:28.440
it's not hate in the way that like, right, right.
01:16:31.040
Just let them decide.
01:16:32.400
And so, cause he knows, he knows it's the, the pressure is working and they're already
01:16:35.620
like, no, no, no, no, no.
01:16:36.520
You know, bailing out, preparing to like get attacked by someone because here's the printer
01:16:40.640
that did it, you know, put them out of business.
01:16:42.280
They've been stalling for three days now though, because I think that, uh, they'd get a lot
01:16:47.700
of money for this and the economy is not great.
01:16:51.180
They haven't said no.
01:16:52.200
They've, they just haven't given me an answer since Monday.
01:16:54.820
Still thinking about it, I guess.
01:16:55.820
But I think, I mean, it sucks, but, uh, someone out there should be willing to print it.
01:17:00.700
So it's just a matter of fact, there are print on, there's a print on demand place in the
01:17:04.040
U S that, uh, gave me a prototype.
01:17:05.860
I think the, think the reason they, they printed it last summer, uh, cause it's all completely
01:17:11.380
automated.
01:17:11.840
I don't even think a human sees it, but the problem is the difference between a print run
01:17:16.900
from a professional printer and print on demand is per copy.
01:17:20.400
It's going to be like two and a half times more expensive to get print on.
01:17:23.140
Oh, wow.
01:17:23.780
Okay.
01:17:24.200
Yeah.
01:17:24.400
That sucks.
01:17:25.160
Yeah.
01:17:25.440
It's just different, different times.
01:17:27.220
If you want something, you know, yeah, physical copy of something on the right there, the
01:17:30.780
gender psychosis, that's a Nick Bugis cover.
01:17:33.160
Yep.
01:17:33.640
Got a, got a couple in there.
01:17:34.700
New church ladies is Nick Bugis, but again, he, uh, yeah, he, that the bomb, that's the
01:17:40.740
only one I designed was the bomb inside my brain.
01:17:42.600
But, uh, yeah, Sean Tedarachi did the, he's, he's just like fantastic designer.
01:17:47.900
He did whiteness, the original sin, but Nick drew the, if you scroll down, yeah, new church
01:17:51.800
ladies, that's, that's a Nick drawing too.
01:17:53.900
Nice.
01:17:54.200
So that's a new, uh, instead of like a reprint or updated version of that or something,
01:17:57.600
or these are, these are all print on demand too.
01:17:59.840
Uh, so I, you know, and those are like the way it works is someone orders one and they
01:18:05.120
print one, you know?
01:18:06.480
Gotcha.
01:18:06.860
Okay.
01:18:07.060
Well, that's good.
01:18:07.560
Yeah, exactly.
01:18:08.500
Cause the one thing about this room, I mean, it is a nice big room and I, you know, I converted
01:18:12.740
it from a garage, but I was supposed to get 220 cases of this book, like here in July that
01:18:19.040
may or may not happen.
01:18:20.240
Yeah.
01:18:21.540
All right.
01:18:21.980
We'll see what happens.
01:18:22.700
But, uh, yeah, let us know how that goes.
01:18:24.340
People can keep an update on this, of course, at, uh, jimgoat.net.
01:18:28.220
You're on Gab, you're on Twitter as well.
01:18:29.820
So you give, uh, people updates there in terms of if and when it becomes available, right?
01:18:34.440
Telegram too.
01:18:35.240
Yeah.
01:18:35.540
It's Jim Goat.
01:18:36.300
Telegram as well.
01:18:37.120
Okay.
01:18:37.300
Good stuff.
01:18:38.020
All right, uh, guys, we're going to take a quick little break here.
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We'll be back in part two with, uh, Jim Goat getting to, well, a lot of other things,
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but some of the drama as well.
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All right.
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Stay tuned.
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Fantastic.
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Fantastic.
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Thank you.
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