Red Ice TV - Active Clubs, Violence & Discipline： Advice for Younger Nationalists with Dan Eriksson

00:00:00.000 We'll be right back.

00:00:30.000 We'll be right back.

00:01:00.000 We'll be right back.

00:01:29.980 We'll be right back.

00:01:59.960 We'll be right back.

00:02:29.960 We'll be right back.

00:02:59.960 We'll be right back.

00:03:29.940 We'll be right back.

00:03:59.940 We'll be right back.

00:04:29.940 We'll be right back.

00:04:59.920 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Red Ice.

00:05:01.800 Thank you so much for joining us.

00:05:03.400 If you're watching live, thank you for tuning in.

00:05:05.300 Rumble, X, Twitter, whatever you want to call it.

00:05:07.600 We go to redice.tv and redicemembers.com as well.

00:05:10.800 If you're watching later in the archives, we appreciate you for joining us.

00:05:14.320 I'm out of your tuning in.

00:05:15.340 Do you want to talk to you, too, do you want to talk to you, too, and we're going to talk to you, too, and we're going to talk with our guest today here about, well, beginning in a situation that happened in Sweden recently, and then extend it from there and kind of discuss where the, well, for one, where the nationalist movement is going, how it's doing, what's happening with it.

00:05:36.060 But also, of course, what is it in the short term, right?

00:05:40.340 As you have younger guys coming in, very, very good drive, lots of energy, lots of excitement, lots of desire to act and to do something now, which, of course, is 100% understandable.

00:05:55.340 But, of course, at the same time, if you don't have planning, if you don't have something that's set up, if you don't have long-term goals, if you don't view this as a marathon as opposed to a sprint, right, to make that analogy, what happens then in that sense?

00:06:11.100 So we had a situation in Sweden where supposedly, allegedly, and I'll ask our guest more about this because he's looked into the backstory to this more than I have, but obviously I heard about it.

00:06:21.400 It was a couple of guys from one of the active clubs in Sweden, I think it was active club Stockholm specifically, allegedly, that took part in some what appears to be random violence as opposed to defensive violence against specific targets.

00:06:35.520 And, of course, this kind of spurred on a debate within the Swedish nationalist scene, but I think this could be extended to many nationalist groups.

00:06:42.400 There's many similar active clubs, of course, around the Western European white world, if you will.

00:06:48.260 And you're almost seeing, for a while, we saw kind of a white nationalism 2.0, I like to call it.

00:06:52.840 And the question now is, are we seeing kind of a re-emergence or maybe a reversal back to white nationalism 1.0, more in that vein?

00:07:02.680 I remember the tail end of the 90s.

00:07:05.300 I was kind of casually observing these kids that were a little bit older than me were, you know, attracted in Sweden at the time to kind of the skinhead movement.

00:07:11.820 They had the bomber jackets, they had the Doc Martin shoes and stuff, and there was like a fashion trend essentially in Sweden.

00:07:18.400 But it was a good nationalist sentiment that was on the rise at the time because that's when immigration really started in Sweden.

00:07:26.540 And then after that, of course, it was vehemently, you know, attacked by the state and so forth.

00:07:31.480 And there was, as far as I understand, the situation there as well, lots of random acts of violence.

00:07:36.500 And again, our guest, Donny Exxon, can tell us more about this, too.

00:07:38.960 He's a seasoned nationalist in Sweden.

00:07:41.020 He's been involved in a long time in nationalist movements in Sweden and seen this and taken part of that.

00:07:48.880 And so he has a good insight into this.

00:07:50.960 And really, he wrote a couple of articles debating this of, like, he's seeing some of the mistakes, right, that happened at that time kind of being, happening again, essentially, of course.

00:08:01.100 And this is painful.

00:08:02.460 It's very hard to tell people what not to do in some cases.

00:08:05.460 I understand this dynamic that people have to just kind of simply make the mistakes themselves.

00:08:09.400 But it's unfortunate because there is a lot to learn here.

00:08:13.160 So, Don Erickson, welcome back to the show.

00:08:15.720 Great to have you here.

00:08:16.900 How are you?

00:08:18.180 Well, thank you for having me again.

00:08:20.280 And I'm doing fine.

00:08:23.080 And I'm happy to talk to you again, Henrik.

00:08:26.120 Your fatherland is missing you.

00:08:28.600 It's time to come back soon.

00:08:29.840 I know.

00:08:30.320 Soon.

00:08:30.660 Soon.

00:08:31.120 I'll be back soon.

00:08:32.140 Working on that currently.

00:08:33.140 Yes.

00:08:33.660 Indeed.

00:08:34.200 Yeah.

00:08:35.060 Looking forward to it.

00:08:36.380 Indeed.

00:08:36.860 Exactly.

00:08:37.220 Yeah.

00:08:37.340 A lot of good, a lot of organizations there now.

00:08:40.180 A lot of activism.

00:08:40.900 A lot of good, positive trends in the country that wasn't there when I came over here.

00:08:47.340 You know what I mean?

00:08:47.760 So, things have certainly happened.

00:08:49.300 But why don't we dive into this right away then and just kind of talk about the situation

00:08:53.000 of what happened there with the active clubs or whatever.

00:08:54.920 And we're talking about, what, a handful, as far as I understand it, of people.

00:08:58.800 Again, and I said supposedly, allegedly, we don't know.

00:09:01.060 I don't look.

00:09:01.580 I don't know the vetting procedures of some of these active clubs.

00:09:05.140 I don't know what it takes to be a quote-unquote member.

00:09:07.020 So, of course, this could be very, how do I put it, very kind of iffy to get into.

00:09:12.540 But regardless, even if that's the case, there's still a lesson here, I think, to be learned.

00:09:16.440 But give us the backstory, Don.

00:09:17.520 What happened?

00:09:19.280 Absolutely.

00:09:20.140 And as you said, I've read the whole police investigation.

00:09:24.060 It's over more than 800 pages.

00:09:26.260 Most of it are, you know, just repeating itself.

00:09:32.020 But I've read the whole investigation.

00:09:35.280 And the trial started today.

00:09:38.700 So, we don't know exactly what happened.

00:09:41.820 We can only go from the police investigation, the media report, and so on.

00:09:47.500 But allegedly, these four young guys, between 20 and 23 years old, were out drinking in central Stockholm.

00:09:58.880 And when they left the pub, they allegedly assaulted one guy of, I think he was African or Arab.

00:10:10.900 I don't know.

00:10:11.420 Because in total, there are three victims, but it's different times during the night.

00:10:19.400 So, in the span of, like, one hour, they got into three different fights.

00:10:26.340 Or to call it fights, it's maybe not correct, because it was always, like, them as a group against one, according to the police investigation.

00:10:37.700 As I said, the trial started today, and in the investigation, the young guys only answered no comments to every question.

00:10:47.540 And today, they have just pled non-guilty and said there is no – because the state attorney, it comes to assault, aggravated assault, robbery, and that it's a hate crime.

00:11:05.020 And when it's a hate crime, you get a harsher punishment.

00:11:07.720 So, they also, of course, deny that being a hate crime at all.

00:11:11.840 So, we can just discuss what's in the police investigation and the bigger discussion around it that has now, you know, really been the main topic in the Swedish nationalist movement the last couple of weeks.

00:11:24.820 But according to the police investigation, these guys have attacked three different people, non-Swedish people, in the streets, apparently for almost no reason at all.

00:11:39.520 It was not – according to the police investigation and the state attorney, it was not in self-defense.

00:11:44.900 And while doing this, they were also doing the Roman salutes.

00:11:53.380 They had some kind of pen with them and draw, like, graffiti or tags of – writing, you know, AKS, so Active Club Stockholm or Active Club Sweden.

00:12:10.080 I think swastikas as well and stuff like that on, like, the window to some shops and, you know, many stuff like that.

00:12:20.900 That's what made it also look like something political.

00:12:24.760 Of course, four guys getting drunk in a bar and then getting into unprovoked fights happens every weekend in Stockholm.

00:12:34.200 It's not something special.

00:12:37.280 But this has, of course, gained a lot of media attention because they are, according to the police and according to the state attorney,

00:12:47.180 they are connected to the Active Clubs in Sweden.

00:12:52.180 And I would say also – because if that would be the only thing, there would be almost no discussion.

00:12:57.600 Of course, we could talk about if this is a problem or not.

00:13:01.320 I would say that the main discussion comes from the Active Clubs in Sweden, not only, like, ignoring this, but even praising this.

00:13:12.560 So they have made, like – you had a picture there.

00:13:16.300 There was a guy with an umbrella doing a Roman salute from the police investigation.

00:13:22.040 They have turned this into a sticker.

00:13:25.140 So the big discussion now comes, how should a nationalist scene talk about these kind of things? 0.99

00:13:34.520 As I said, four guys getting drunk and doing something stupid, it's not even news. 0.98

00:13:42.300 Sweden has, you know, big problems with shootings, knife murders, rapes, all of this. 0.98

00:13:50.300 Yeah, this shouldn't be an issue when you put it in context to the organized crime and the rapes and the assaults and the violence, the humiliation crime.

00:13:58.880 But, you know, regardless, these are, you know, these are guys we care about and we look after them and we don't want them to end up in a bad situation.

00:14:06.380 Hence, we're talking about it, obviously.

00:14:08.060 Yeah.

00:14:08.800 So when I read about this and I looked through the police investigation, what struck me the most was that this could have been me 25 years ago.

00:14:19.060 When I joined the nationalist movement, there was like this end of the skinhead area, the beginning of more of a free nationalist scene.

00:14:29.080 There was a lot of overlap with like casual scene and hooligans and so on.

00:14:34.120 But there was a lot of violence, a lot of, I must admit, unprovoked violence in the sense that, you know, random people could get in the way of a group of young nationalists and get beaten.

00:14:47.320 Back in my days, we didn't have that many CCTV cameras like today because now all of this was happening in the most surveilled areas of Stockholm, as well as in one subway train, which also, of course, is filled with cameras.

00:15:05.380 But when I was young, the nationalist scene was young people and it was led by young people.

00:15:12.420 There were no older generation who could tell us there is a different path that is more constructive.

00:15:18.720 And when I look back at the guys that I grew up with in the nationalist movement, they today has either, you know, left the movement completely and chose another life or they became lifestyle criminals.

00:15:36.420 They left politics and joined a criminal gang, a motorcycle club or whatever, or they are dead or in prison.

00:15:46.540 It's really, it was such a destructive movement. 1.00

00:15:52.060 And just, and for that, I mean, we did many stupid things. 0.97

00:15:57.480 And I had wished that there were some older guys who could tell us, no, that's wrong. 0.97

00:16:03.700 Do this instead.

00:16:05.380 Do you think you would have listened if there were?

00:16:08.420 I hope so.

00:16:09.680 At least I would have, at least I would have been given a, you know, an opportunity to do something, something different.

00:16:17.260 And so the first thing was like, I recognize this and I understand these guys.

00:16:23.820 I don't say that I support what they have done or that I can excuse it, but I can understand what's going through their head.

00:16:32.080 And I understand that they are so filled with frustration, you know, from a society that never listens to them.

00:16:39.040 Uh, and, uh, uh, media that just, you know, always write hit pieces against them exactly like it was for us.

00:16:48.840 And, um, then you get into these kinds of situations, uh, and, and bad things happen.

00:16:56.500 So I can understand where they are coming from.

00:17:00.720 Um, but I was, I'm really hoping that this generation will be better than my generation was.

00:17:09.560 And you mean, you don't have to throw your friends under the bus and, and stuff like that, but you have to, I think, be clear from the organizational point of view from the active clubs and other organizations that this is not the way that we are going.

00:17:26.980 This is not the constructive way of, you know, creating a change in Sweden, uh, in the long run, because it is not, it has been tried and done before.

00:17:38.340 And this is also typical when you're young, you, you think that the older generation don't know what you're going through.

00:17:46.480 And, you know, it's all so different now, of course, some things are different, but I mean, I grew up in a multicultural area.

00:17:54.840 I was the, when I started 10th grade in high school, I was the only Swede in my class.

00:18:00.120 I was fighting this, uh, all these problems and this, this, um, great replacement, um, already in the end of the nineties.

00:18:10.760 Um, of course it was not that widespread as it is today, but we were many young Swedish guys who grew up in this, who were met with this anti-Swedish racism, who had to use our fists and whatever we could find, um, to, to defend ourselves.

00:18:29.360 Um, but this, what, what happened this night in, in, in, in Stockholm, as at least according to the police investigation, we haven't really heard the story from the guys yet.

00:18:40.460 It doesn't seem like self-defense and even though I can understand where they are coming from, I think it has to be clear that if the active clubs and the young guys now getting organized are going to have a future and have a positive impact, they need to do, uh, do different than what we did 25 years ago.

00:19:03.400 Right. Yeah. So we're talking about a handful so far. And, um, uh, again, I, I'm not sure what the total membership is, but this seems a fairly small and fractional thing, but I guess what you're reacting to is, is the supposed kind of reaction to it, that this is kind of, you know, glorified on some level, which again, you know, put it in context, you, you understand that. Right. Cause like finally Swedes are fighting back. Right. I mean, that's kind of the initial impression you get like, you know, and, um, and we've seen so little of that. So that's where it is.

00:19:33.020 However, there's a bigger issue here when it comes to like, okay, well, if this then becomes your lifestyle, right. It's like we compared to the other crime and the violence we've seen, it's nothing, but we are also held to a very, very different standard. Uh, and that there needs to be an awareness of that.

00:19:48.300 That like, if, if guys that are nationalists, specifically those that are organized in this capacity do this type of violence, they will be put under much more legal pressure, uh, and probably locked away a lot longer, um, than, than other, you know, migrants, you know, criminal migrants would, or whatever action that they've actually done. Um, so that there needs to be an awareness of that.

00:20:09.580 And I'm, I'm certainly that there, I'm certain that there is obviously to a certain extent, but it could create this basic, as you say, lifestyle where a lot of good, well-meaning young men, there are driven, they're on our side, they're nationalists at the core.

00:20:21.580 They want the best for their people and the Swedish nation. Uh, but they end up in a cycle of basically criminality in and out of prison systems. Um, and it doesn't evolve into something else that is more organized, more formalized, more something that actually lays foundations now that they can be helped part of building that we will be beneficial, not only to them, but hopefully to their kids and so forth.

00:20:45.660 That there's a multi-generational thing, right? As I said, in the beginning, you get viewed as a marathon, not a sprint. However, these guys, they want to sprint and the situation is dire too. However, what does it resolve going out and beating up a random migrant? If that's what happened, right? What's, what's the point of that, right? 0.81

00:21:04.520 Yeah, exactly. And, um, you, because you said maybe the first impression from people are finding that the Swedes are fighting back. I would say this is not fighting back because it's,

00:21:15.660 it has to be organized. It has to be a strategical, you know, there has to be like some kind of plan. Okay. If we do X, Y said, what the, what will then happen? Um, just randomly picking out a few, uh, non Swedes to beat up, uh, usually only leads to, you know, giving our enemies some ammunition against us. Now they're talking about, uh, changing a few laws from the 1930s to be able to ban groups. 0.93

00:21:44.660 groups like the active clubs. And as you know, in Sweden, we have had the, the freedom of association has been really, really strong. It's been impossible to ban parties, to ban organizations.

00:21:56.660 And we have always had a strong protection against collective punishment, uh, which means that you can be sentenced on an individual level, but you can never be sentenced for just being a member of something.

00:22:11.660 Um, now they are changing, uh, this, the basic law in Sweden to be able to, um, you know, in some way pulling this back off. And officially they have been talking about like Islamist groups. Um, uh, of course, because then you can get the people behind this.

00:22:29.660 Yes. But now the last week we have seen from the biggest party in Sweden, the social Democrats that they want to change some other laws to also be able to ban the active clubs.

00:22:40.660 Um, and I mean, just because of this incident alone, that's the main issue or is there other reasons?

00:22:47.660 Well, there have been some other cases as well, the last year, uh, connected to the active club, uh, similar to this one.

00:22:54.660 Um, and, uh, the thing is it could be yes.

00:22:59.660 Okay.

00:23:00.660 That's one organization or a network that's then gone.

00:23:04.660 You can work in other structures.

00:23:05.660 That's not a problem.

00:23:06.660 The problem, what I see here is that a lot of really, really good young guys.

00:23:12.660 I've met many of them, you know, we, we invited them to, they have used our, we have this big house where we, um, have our meetings and so on.

00:23:20.660 Uh, we have two houses actually, and they have been able to use both of them for their meetings and, and trainings and so on, because they can't rent a place under their own name.

00:23:31.660 Uh, so we have given them access to our infrastructure, of course, free of charge and so on.

00:23:36.660 But this meant that I met many of these guys and I must say to me, they were really sharp, good guys, you know, with, uh, uh, you know, in many ways, because when you read this police investigation, you get the image of like some kind of anti-social people.

00:23:55.660 That was not my impression when I met them.

00:23:58.660 And if the active club gets banned, if they start, you know, doing, uh, house raids and so on, like they did to us, uh, 25, 20 or 25 years ago.

00:24:08.660 Um, it can destroy lives for many people.

00:24:13.660 Yes. Look, uh, and January 6th or, um, Charlotte's will, or whatever, how many people got their lives destroyed after that.

00:24:22.660 So you have to be strategic in this.

00:24:27.660 And, and, and, and I, I know it's much harder when you're young.

00:24:30.660 I'm 43 now, you know, uh, I've seen like two generations of nationalists, uh, growing up and, and doing a lot of mistakes.

00:24:39.660 But when you're young, you're, you're so eager to, you know, I want to change today.

00:24:44.660 And I, I totally understand that, but then I hope that they will listen to the older generation.

00:24:51.660 Those of us who are still fighting, uh, and still dedicating our lives to this, that there is another way, a much more productive way.

00:25:01.660 Um, and we cannot tell you exactly what to do because you are young people.

00:25:07.660 You will do things on your own and you will have to make some mistakes.

00:25:11.660 Um, but when something like this happen, please listen to us.

00:25:15.660 We have been exactly where you are right now.

00:25:18.660 And you are at a crossroad.

00:25:20.660 Now you can decide as an organization, if you want to go into the same, um, the same pitfalls that we did, you know, where a lot of people will end up in prison.

00:25:33.660 Maybe some will end up dead, uh, and some lives will be ruined, or you can go in another direction where you can continue doing the great work you do to promote a drug free youth, um, fitness, uh, and nationalism.

00:25:52.660 But in a way that is more focused on how can we become the best that we can be so we can, um, be an asset to nationalism for 40, 50, 60 years and not just crash and burn after six months.

00:26:08.660 Right. You're saying there, if, if it continues on this path, it will be another squandered opportunity.

00:26:13.660 It will be an opportunity lost and running out into the sand.

00:26:17.660 What do you think they need?

00:26:20.660 Again, since I'm not privy to any of the internal, you know, uh, ongoings here or whatnot, but there is, of course, certain things you can do.

00:26:27.660 Again, I'm not sure what the type of, um, expectations are, I guess, of, of members and so forth.

00:26:34.660 Uh, I, I would assume there's some type of internal disciplinary, you know, method in order to control that somehow you, of course have, which we should mention to the other aspect of like, these might be fairly recent guys that joined, for example, that just got in there.

00:26:49.660 And then they do something like this and this helps to cast shade on it.

00:26:52.660 Maybe that's, maybe that's partially part of it.

00:26:54.660 Who, who knows kind of thing.

00:26:55.660 Right.

00:26:56.660 Um, or, or when an organization grows too quickly and too fast and they have grown.

00:27:01.660 I mean, I think, um, Active Club Sweden did a post recently of basically like how, how it started and how it's going.

00:27:07.660 And it's like, you know, almost quadrupled, quadrupled, I think, in terms of size of the, of the guys that are participating.

00:27:13.660 So when it grows too fast, it's harder to kind of keep tabs on it and whatnot, but it needs some kind of internal structure.

00:27:18.660 I assume that that's there, but how detailed that is, but what would you recommend?

00:27:22.660 What's some of the advice?

00:27:23.660 What do you think they, they need interfacing more with other groups?

00:27:26.660 There's always a lot of cross pollination, I think internally anyway, right?

00:27:29.660 A lot of different groups that do different things, whether they're focused on building institutions, uh, you know, creating a future for the Swedish people like you guys are with the free Sweden association.

00:27:39.660 Uh, and then you have these active clubs, you have other type of nationalist organizations.

00:27:43.660 And I do think there's quite a bit of cross pollination, right?

00:27:47.660 It is absolutely.

00:27:49.660 And, uh, uh, a few months ago, uh, we sat down with, I would say those who I identify as the leaders of the, of the active clubs in Sweden.

00:28:00.660 Um, I might be wrong because it's not like they are not an organization in a traditional way.

00:28:05.660 It's not like they have this, uh, typical hierarchy hierarchy that you have in a political party or stuff like that.

00:28:12.660 But I would say that those, these were guys that had a lot of respect from the other guys as well, uh, at least.

00:28:19.660 Uh, and we talked, uh, about exactly this, me and, uh, Magnus Söderman, uh, who is also on the board of the Fria Sverige, uh, who was, um, previously in the, in the Swedish resistance movement before they became the Nordic resistance movement.

00:28:36.660 Um, and also I say a long time nationalist and we told them the importance of not adopting a criminal identity, because when we look back at our youth, this is exactly what we did.

00:28:51.660 We didn't understand it back then, but when you look back at it, so, uh, of course, in many ways we are outsiders, but in, in many ways we have, uh, you know, this identity has become so important.

00:29:05.660 You just start to hate everything with mainstream society.

00:29:10.660 And you can even see people start starting to hate their own people.

00:29:14.660 Uh, and I think when, when hate is your main motivation, you can, you make a lot of mistakes and this criminal identity, um, it's like, okay, but I don't care about the law.

00:29:28.660 The law, the law comes from a, an unjust government and so on, which might sound like your Robin hood. 0.76

00:29:35.660 But if that comes down to like it did in our movement, I don't say this is what the active club is doing now, but this made that in our generation, you know, we excused.

00:29:47.660 Some of our guys selling drugs because they are good guys, you know, they are, they are nationalists.

00:29:54.660 They are, they are our brothers.

00:29:56.660 Uh, we excused, um, a lot of antisocial behavior, which I would say was like the biggest, uh, thing holding us back back then.

00:30:08.660 And what happened was that, uh, the Sweden Democrats, you know, that they were a part of the nationalist movement in Sweden.

00:30:17.660 They decided to break away, uh, sometime around year 2000, I would say, especially 2005, but it started a bit earlier to get away from this destructive movement.

00:30:28.660 Uh, and they of course have had a lot of success.

00:30:33.660 I'm not very happy with them today for, for many different reasons, but the, uh, the old movement that was left, um, continued to accept this antisocial behavior, which made us, you know, that was impossible for us to grow any larger than, you know, a few thousand people.

00:30:57.660 I think we gathered 2000 people at the biggest demonstration, uh, 2002 and, and, and Salem, um, which of course sounds like a lot of people, but, uh, in reality, it's, it's a very small movement.

00:31:13.660 When, when you gather all the people you can and you gather 2000, and I think maybe 500 of them were foreign nationalists who came for the demonstration.

00:31:22.660 Uh, so the movement didn't have any real success instead, a lot of people got either burned out or some of the more antisocial guys went into, um, criminal, uh, criminal lifestyle.

00:31:35.660 Uh, and, and, and, um, if they, if, if, if we see the young guys doing the same thing again, they will, they will have the same result.

00:31:45.660 What they do internally now, I can't tell, uh, I, I don't know.

00:31:49.660 Um, I've written, um, personal messages to, uh, some of these guys, the leaders that we sat down with.

00:31:57.660 I haven't heard a reply.

00:31:58.660 I I've heard through the grape wines that, uh, they are not very happy with me and many other older nationalist guys, uh, speaking out in the way we do right now.

00:32:10.660 Uh, I hope they will see that we do this because we do care about them.

00:32:15.660 We don't want them to make the same mistakes as we did.

00:32:19.660 We don't do it to push them away or to tell them that everything they're doing is wrong or trying to say exactly how they should run their organization.

00:32:29.660 Um, but I really believe they are at the crossroad and, and, uh, they can still make something really, really good out of this.

00:32:38.660 There are good guys, uh, promoting a drug free life with fitness and nationalism is the, is a great thing to do.

00:32:48.660 Uh, and if it's done correctly, I do believe that they can shape a new generation of Swedes, which, uh, will become an integral part of, uh, of the future nationalist change in, in Sweden.

00:33:04.660 Yeah.

00:33:05.660 Um, looking at the UK, for example, remember there, right? Uh, national action. Was it, it was banned. That's, uh, how many years ago is that now? Almost 10, eight, six, eight years ago.

00:33:15.660 I forget what it is. Right. Uh, but of course this is kind of similar as far as I understand it somewhat, at least, uh, you know, structure, whatever.

00:33:21.660 And so of course there is a issue here where you might shoot yourself in the foot and some argument could be like, well, it doesn't matter what we do.

00:33:27.660 They will target us anyway. And, and, and certainly that's true, but that doesn't mean you should give them any reason, right?

00:33:33.660 Legal reasons to actually go after you in this kind of capacity, uh, and then help to shut, uh, shut, shut the organization down.

00:33:39.660 And then what happens then? Well, you have formed something new. And then it's the question of, well, maybe now the members, uh, are prohibited from being able to form any type of organ.

00:33:51.660 I don't know what the, you know, legally how this plays out or what happened. I'm not sure if national action in the UK simply just, you know, reformed itself and became something, something different.

00:34:01.660 Uh, but the, the point there is you could end up shooting yourself in the foot where basically any tension that you have or something that you want to do simply just, uh, runs out into the sand and nothing happens.

00:34:12.660 Nothing comes from it. You squandered that opportunity. And now the, you've given the state a reason for them to clamp down on you as opposed to before with at least that they legally wouldn't have that reason.

00:34:23.660 Right. So yeah. So this comes from a point of view of, uh, of love, tough love and, and, and caring genuinely about them.

00:34:29.660 Cause I think they do great, uh, things very positive for a lot of young Swedish guys to get involved in that. Uh, but if it's simply disbanded and banned and you have law changes, what, what was it all for?

00:34:41.660 Right. What's the purpose? What's the point? Um, what you're doing. And of course we, you know, we risk a B we're the boom, we're the boomers now, I guess, to a certain extent. Right.

00:34:49.660 You're like, ah, they don't understand. They don't get it. You know, kind of thing. But as you said, no, actually when I was young. Yeah.

00:34:55.660 Well, in my days. Um, so yes, I get, I get that point too. Oh, what the hell do you do? You just, you know, you're a streamer, you know, you're, you're a fat, blah, you know, whatever the excuses are.

00:35:09.520 I've heard it all. 0.98

00:35:10.100 Yes. Um, but, uh, no, this should be complimentary, right? This, this, this, what they do is in addition to what other nationalist groups are doing and not, and other nationalists, you do, you do, you do need someone who can, who can talk about this and expose it in that kind of capacity, who can be face out, right?

00:35:26.340 Like we are and have our identity out there because that's the other spin to it too. Right.

00:35:30.820 I, I, I, I very, I saw a post from Christian, uh, I said, I said, because that's his handle, but it puts on where he kind of like, uh, I just don't like the language of it.

00:35:44.180 He, he, look, he does great work with exposing Antifa and stuff. He's been highly involved in this issue now of exposing, um, the, uh, co-founder of Rose City Antifa over in Oregon, how she has a Swedish husband and they are living now in Vorberg, uh, right.

00:35:58.400 And, and exposing all that.

00:36:01.340 But, you know, when you're like saying several activists from the neo-Nazi organization, Active Club, like, are they that? Yeah, maybe, but we know what words they use and why they use those words, you know, kind of thing.

00:36:12.320 And that's simply to demonize or to legitimize, uh, legal actions against them and saying, this is bad people. So I'm not sure why he uses that language. I like his work as I said, so it's fine. And, and he does what he does, but still, um, so it's very hard.

00:36:25.700 No, no, no. I must say that, um, I've had the same criticism. I talked to him personally about it.

00:36:31.020 Right.

00:36:31.300 It was another article. I think the first article he wrote about this, which had many good points, but just because of some of the wording, I, I believe nationalists cannot take it serious.

00:36:42.300 And that's, that's a big problem because they should be your target audience for such an article. Um, but when you use the language of our enemies, when you started talking about extremism and neo-Nazis and so on, then, then you have another target audience in mind, I guess.

00:37:03.080 I don't know which audience that is and why they would care because that kind of wording you will find in the, in the daily newspapers and the tabloids. They, you know, they use that kind of wording all the time.

00:37:13.820 So I also think Christian is doing great work, uh, and he has done some really good articles on this as well. But, uh, as you said, the wording is, um, there are some questions to be raised.

00:37:27.120 Yeah. I'm not sure why, just, I mean, Christian has passed in alternative for Sweden, right? Who was part of that movement and stuff. And they called them neo-Nazis too. I mean, so this pivot is maybe it's personal or something.

00:37:37.820 Or the mainstream media call him a neo-Nazis. Right. Well, exactly. Which makes this ironic, but okay, whatever. Leaving that to the side, he has his issues. He wants to pivot towards, I don't know, Andy knows audience maybe or something, but anyway.

00:37:50.460 Um, so, uh, I would leave that out of it and say, but, but still from a point of view of like, Hey, look, you know, you claim it, it becomes fishy when you say you, because there's so many people and this is just a handful.

00:38:02.080 So, but again, we're addressing this because we're concerned about the development. And if this, you know, continues as opposed to then is internally reprimanded and it was like, Hey guys, discipline, get your act together.

00:38:13.420 This is just, um, uh, you know, red hearted, uh, you know, explosion of energy, which is of course, again, a hundred percent understandable and legitimate.

00:38:22.240 But the point here, and the goal is to, I hope, build something that is long lasting, that works, that on ramps a lot of new nationalists and younger Swedish guys can see that this is a role model.

00:38:33.340 They get fit, they get cleaned up, they get disciplined. They become a better version of themselves. They feel confident, but out of that, and it's not just even the structure of the active club itself.

00:38:43.520 I think there's other models in other countries where it might've started or formed around the idea of an active club of sorts, but then eventually you get, or, you know, a fight club or something, but eventually you, this grows into a community.

00:38:55.640 It grows into people that know each other, that trust each other. They have, you know, might have events eventually where they bring their wives and or kids or, you know, or they meet someone there at these types of settings and whatnot. Right.

00:39:05.720 And it can grow into something which is much more than just centered around the active club aspect of it, which I think is a, you know, a positive development because, you know, every year everyone gets older, right?

00:39:18.400 And eventually these guys will have a few more years under their belt as well. And what do you do then? Right.

00:39:23.700 So it's this issue of like, you know, kind of professionalism and discipline and conducting yourself in a way which is, you know, I get it.

00:39:32.260 It's like respectable in this day and age is so fuzzy because we're living in a society that's totally upside down when it comes to these types of values.

00:39:39.800 But I think we have an idea of what that is regardless and that you should adhere to those types of standards, right?

00:39:45.780 As opposed to just squander and in a burst of energy, as we have a saying in Sweden,

00:39:50.480 up like a sun, down like a pancake, right?

00:39:53.720 It's an explosion of energy, which is great, but the risk of it is when it catches on too fast or growing too fast or the excitement is too much too early without it being contained or channeled into constructive things also,

00:40:08.620 in addition to what you're doing, that it might just kind of blow up on you. Right? Do you agree, Don?

00:40:13.640 Yeah, right. Absolutely. And, you know, talking about what Christian wrote and so on and what's happening online,

00:40:22.600 there is another big issue here that we need to talk about.

00:40:27.440 It's the, like, I'm all for anonymity online.

00:40:34.940 I think most people should remain anonymous.

00:40:37.500 It makes no sense that you don't need to, you know, be a public person like you and me.

00:40:44.860 In many ways, it's better not to be. 0.98

00:40:47.280 But when you see a lot of anonymous people online sharing on and, you know, saying, yeah, go on, keep kicking those asses, blah, blah, blah. 0.98

00:40:58.780 You know, it's good. The revolution is coming. 0.99

00:41:00.920 And you're just thinking, because I have no idea who these people are.

00:41:04.780 Are they Antifa?

00:41:06.160 Are they some activists who just want to be anonymous?

00:41:10.280 Or are they as keyboard warriors who, you know, or sometimes I guess it's like people who see this as entertainment.

00:41:18.060 So I remember when the Nordic resistance movement had their demonstrations live streamed, a lot of people tuned in to live streams, most of them in hope of seeing some riots.

00:41:33.220 So it's some kind of riot violence entertainment that people are hoping for.

00:41:39.220 But the problem is that you have real guys here, real good young guys who can do something really, really productive for a nationalist movement, who read all of these anonymous posts and think, yeah, we have the people behind us.

00:41:54.100 Let's go continue doing what we did here.

00:41:57.940 So this is another part of the problem, which I think Christian wrote very good about.

00:42:04.720 And this also has to be in some way contained or talked about.

00:42:14.360 So, you know, when you're young, I remember myself in those days, I believe that, you know, the revolution was around the corner.

00:42:24.380 We will see a big uprising among the Swedish men and women the coming five or maximum 10 years. 0.92

00:42:33.240 10 years felt like an eternity when you're, when you're 18, you know, it's like, wow, it's, will there even be a sun and an earth in 10 years?

00:42:43.820 So, you know, when you have that kind of timeframe and you believe that there is this big revolution coming around the corner, these kind of things almost make sense.

00:42:56.160 Many in my generation did not only become violent, you know, stopped paying bills, stopped paying taxes.

00:43:03.980 It's like, it doesn't matter.

00:43:05.420 This state will fall in five years and all our debt will be, you know, canceled.

00:43:12.240 Of course, that didn't happen.

00:43:14.000 And a lot of us had to, you know, get 10 years into paying back a lot of debt before we could even buy our first house and so on.

00:43:23.600 This is, and I must say that when you hear people say that, you know, the revolution is around the corner, so now we have to go out on the streets and fight.

00:43:35.240 Or people saying the next election is, this is the most important election ever.

00:43:43.040 Either we win the next election or we're doomed forever.

00:43:45.820 Usually these are two different types of people, but they symbolize the same problem because you use this kind of language to rally people, of course, and it might work.

00:43:59.280 But you also, like when it comes to these revolutionary guys, you use a lot of people as pawns.

00:44:06.020 A lot of young guys believe this. 1.00

00:44:07.760 I believe that when I was young, did a lot of stupid things. 0.99

00:44:13.080 And I guess that's what we are seeing here now in this case. 0.99

00:44:18.440 And when it comes to these micro parties and it's like, oh, the next election, you know, we will win or we will get into parliament.

00:44:27.200 This is the most important election ever.

00:44:29.460 Either we win now or it's over.

00:44:30.900 It's usually that they need to raise a lot of funds for their electoral campaign, election campaign.

00:44:42.400 And in both these cases, I see it as, you know, using nationalist guys in one way, in the one, the revolutionary guys, then the young people.

00:44:56.160 And the other is maybe then people with some funds and so on to, you know, and they don't care what happens next.

00:45:06.120 Because the truth is like this.

00:45:08.100 We will not win the next election and it doesn't matter.

00:45:11.500 There is not a revolution coming in five years and it doesn't matter.

00:45:14.840 What we have to understand and what I wish that I understood when I was 20 is that we have to build a foundation now so that our children, our grandchildren can continue building on that.

00:45:30.420 During this time, there can be a lot of black swan moments.

00:45:35.180 A lot of things can happen that we can't foresee.

00:45:38.620 And we need to be prepared for those as good as you can be.

00:45:42.260 The thing with black swan is you are not, it's impossible to be 100% prepared for it.

00:45:48.360 But we will not start a revolution by beating up random immigrants or by just shouting in the city square.

00:45:59.820 And we will not see a revolution through democratic elections because the whole system is built to not make that possible.

00:46:10.760 I'm talking about a Swedish situation right now, but I guess it's the same in most Western European and North American countries as well.

00:46:19.960 So we need to channel our will and our resources into building foundations and long-lasting institutions that bit by bit can become more and more influential.

00:46:39.980 So this is the whole idea when we founded the free Sweden in 2017.

00:46:46.320 But I think it's more important than ever.

00:46:51.180 Now when we have a young, in Sweden, a young generation of really, really good guys who want to do the right thing.

00:46:57.240 And they are motivated to make a difference for themselves and for coming generations of Swedes.

00:47:05.260 We can't waste that potential on doing the same mistakes as we did 25 years ago.

00:47:11.960 So that's on us, right?

00:47:13.280 In a way, you could say, collectively speaking, right?

00:47:15.860 That there is no top-down leadership here.

00:47:20.880 And I mean, partially, you know, what you don't want it to be.

00:47:23.880 And if it is, that's easier to target.

00:47:25.460 So we understand the advantage of decentralized structures, obviously, at the same time, right?

00:47:32.760 But maybe that means that there's no one there to kind of guide them.

00:47:36.600 And granted, maybe even if there is, or, you know, as in your case there, when you do offer advice and tips or just say,

00:47:44.720 hey, look, you know, we did this already, you don't want to walk down this path, whatever, it might not be received,

00:47:49.540 it might not be received well, or they just don't care or something like that, right?

00:47:53.140 But this is part of the problem of having a new generation come in and it's increasingly leaderless,

00:47:59.600 or they're disassociated, I guess, from each other, right?

00:48:02.540 That's one thing that we've lost, obviously, a cohesive way of having multi-generational structures.

00:48:07.540 You use the energy and the momentum and the excitement and the testosterone of the younger movement,

00:48:15.220 but that needs to be also harnessed or guided by older, wiser people that have an idea of what should be done

00:48:21.420 or what has been tried or the mistakes that we've made before, let's not go down that path type of thing.

00:48:26.560 But, you know, at the same time, that's kind of, that's part of the beast.

00:48:29.400 That's part of one of the many, many battles that we have of trying to do, you know,

00:48:33.860 do the best that we can in a situation like this.

00:48:36.540 And it doesn't always go down the way you, you want it to.

00:48:40.080 But, but you did make an interesting point there, right?

00:48:42.280 And I think that's what Christian wrote about too, how this becomes Saturday entertainment.

00:48:47.240 Because then something happens, right?

00:48:49.640 Oh, good.

00:48:50.240 You know, some nationals beat up some migrant, you know, okay, yay. 1.00

00:48:53.100 Bring out the chips and the beer and, and, and have a good time with it

00:48:55.740 and spur on this kind of activity without thinking much more of it.

00:49:00.660 I think the attitude we've got to develop is this, right?

00:49:02.860 We've got to have that, the nothing ever happens chud, right? 0.99

00:49:05.260 They got, that's, don't expect it to be some big grandiose thing.

00:49:09.840 It rarely is, right?

00:49:11.280 I mean, this guy's won out more times than not, where it's like, oh, this, this next big

00:49:14.820 thing is going to be it, right?

00:49:16.380 Because then you always hinges, you hinge your momentum on, on some external factor to happen

00:49:23.800 that unlocks your capability and possibility, as opposed to saying, and I think you kind

00:49:29.120 of have that as a subtitle in a way you can, you can, look, if you want to, if you want

00:49:33.500 to conquer the world, right?

00:49:35.680 You can't deal with people that can't even conquer themselves or their own drives or to

00:49:40.040 control themselves of, of sort, right?

00:49:42.100 Um, and of course that's where, you know, wisdom comes in and, and, uh, having life

00:49:46.460 experience and knowing certain things, right?

00:49:48.760 Um, so anyways, I guess it falls on us, Don, that's what I'm saying, partially at least,

00:49:52.580 or people like us, or, or generally the older men, be that we're talking about Sweden or any

00:49:57.980 other European nation, it falls on them to pick up the, the slack there and, and, and try

00:50:03.300 to help and aid and guide, right?

00:50:05.080 Yeah, absolutely.

00:50:06.740 And that's why I wrote my article, what I got, why I got in touch with these guys and

00:50:11.100 try to tell them, you know, what, what I've learned.

00:50:15.700 Um, and some people would see that and say, don't punch right, but I don't punch right.

00:50:21.060 I hug right.

00:50:22.220 You know, it is really a way of, because I see the potential and I, I see there, uh, they

00:50:31.040 can play a crucial role, uh, in, in what we are building, uh, you know, not just we as

00:50:36.680 the free Sweden, we as a nationalist movement.

00:50:40.420 Um, and, and I really hope that they, they will make, um, make the right decisions.

00:50:48.340 Um, um, and I, I saw in the chat, you know, I see a lot of people agreeing with us.

00:50:54.980 Uh, I'm also a bit afraid that when we are talking about it and a lot of people were writing

00:51:00.460 about it, that it makes these young guys feel that, you know, now everybody's against us.

00:51:05.780 Right.

00:51:05.980 It's not only the, uh, not only the establishment, not only the Antifa.

00:51:10.340 Now, even the old nationalist guys are against us.

00:51:13.160 Right.

00:51:13.620 Um, I, I really hope that it's clear that this is not what it's about.

00:51:18.540 Right.

00:51:18.920 Uh, I, I guess some of the guys will watch this, uh, and the situation is almost, I guess,

00:51:24.900 similar in many other countries.

00:51:27.620 Um, this is not, uh, this is not it, you know, it's not that, uh, that we are against

00:51:33.620 you in, in, in any way.

00:51:35.560 Uh, and, uh, it's just that we, we have seen this before.

00:51:39.340 We have seen where it lead and we don't want the same fate for you guys because, uh, you

00:51:46.380 deserve better.

00:51:47.840 Can you, uh, I mean, you kind of mentioned, I guess a little bit already of some of the

00:51:51.140 fate of some of the guys there or whatever.

00:51:52.420 Right.

00:51:52.680 But some of them became career criminals, you said, and they had not, no other way to

00:51:56.840 kind of, it's so hard.

00:51:58.540 Right.

00:51:58.760 Let's talk about that for a second.

00:51:59.940 The modern society, because we know it's rigged against us. 1.00

00:52:03.980 It's fake and gay. 1.00

00:52:05.100 It's all upside down. 0.97

00:52:06.400 It's so hard, you know, at the same time, then because of that, maybe it is true, right.

00:52:14.180 That people that are drawn to be that nationalism or other fringe, you know, moving, I hate to

00:52:19.120 call it that.

00:52:19.660 And it's not, you could argue that there's certainly be a change.

00:52:22.420 Change of tone.

00:52:23.460 Let's be honest.

00:52:24.220 Over the last 10 years, I mean, we're at a level now and you're seeing articles written

00:52:28.020 that many countries, you know, UK was an example recently.

00:52:32.500 We're like, I mean, it was like daily express or something, but still it was like criminal

00:52:36.440 rapists and, you know, uh, uh, murdering migrants are coming in, you know, kind of thing

00:52:41.040 like this was like hardcore, hardcore nationalist road, you know, 10 years or more than that, baby. 0.97

00:52:45.360 But, you know, around that time.

00:52:47.580 And so there has been a shift in a tone.

00:52:50.120 I mean, so that means, yes, there's an opportunity to, to use that momentum, to strike that.

00:52:55.360 And of course it doesn't mean, you know, you should always, always hold back and say, no,

00:52:59.780 let's not push the, you know, Overton window.

00:53:01.960 Let's not try to advance more or whatever.

00:53:03.620 It's both things can be true at once, right?

00:53:07.380 You need constraint, you need constructive things.

00:53:09.560 You need to channel the energy in the right way.

00:53:12.160 Uh, but then at the same time, there is a function of movements that are also breaking

00:53:17.740 through those barriers.

00:53:18.900 I'm not saying you have to do it illegally, but I'm saying out of the ways, right?

00:53:22.300 You kind of intentionally up your rhetoric a little bit.

00:53:25.260 You, you, you intentionally push that wall a little bit in hopefuls, breaking it through

00:53:29.460 because in the wake of that, you now have space.

00:53:32.440 And I think that this has frankly happened over the last 10 years, a lot more like normie

00:53:37.220 accounts or, or, or people who are normally kind of conservative in the past are now using

00:53:42.500 language of like, you know, deport them all, send them all back home or whatever.

00:53:46.320 And partially they can do that and they feel comfortable doing that because there's far

00:53:50.940 more radical people that have been pushing that for a long time.

00:53:53.680 So that opens up a big space for them to walk right in.

00:53:56.560 I make the analogy of like a trailblazer all the time, right?

00:53:58.860 But like you're breaking a new path in, in the, you know, unrestrained wilderness essentially.

00:54:06.080 But by the time the normies show up, then it's a paved path with, you know, a park benches

00:54:11.860 and trash bins and streetlights essentially.

00:54:14.720 And it's very comfortable.

00:54:15.780 You know what I mean?

00:54:16.320 So yes, a lot of people take the hits for that.

00:54:17.940 So there's a necessity.

00:54:18.980 You can, it can, both can be true at the same time.

00:54:21.600 Right.

00:54:21.800 But I think it's changed.

00:54:24.640 The rhetoric has changed, but that means also then, Don, that that also means that people

00:54:29.560 are ready for organizations.

00:54:31.080 They're ready for institutions.

00:54:32.480 There's people possibly willing and ready to donate maybe part of their money.

00:54:39.140 Maybe they're more wealthy, capable people, influential people that are willing to step

00:54:42.920 into that role or into that space at least and say, Hey, like we got to, you know, I'm

00:54:48.220 looking for something that is constructive, that actually really on the ground changes

00:54:53.440 things, be that, you know, politically or actually within the culture itself or the

00:54:57.200 mentality of our people, or just a space for our own community, you know, things like

00:55:01.480 that.

00:55:02.040 And so if that had been worked on 20 years ago in a way that is now, imagine what those

00:55:07.840 institutions would have been today.

00:55:09.280 And that's kind of the mindset, I guess, right?

00:55:10.860 That we have to adopt it, like think 20 years ahead and don't expect, you know, a comet

00:55:15.980 to knock everything out and set us back into the stone age again.

00:55:19.880 But think about where, where our kids are going to be in 20 years from now.

00:55:23.000 Right.

00:55:24.340 No, absolutely.

00:55:25.280 And, uh, um, we have seen that shift in Sweden as well.

00:55:29.620 A lot of the conservatives or, or lib cons, um, are today using talking points that, that

00:55:36.300 we used 15, 20 years ago.

00:55:38.360 So I think 2015, the so-called migrant crisis or refugee crisis changed a lot, uh, in, in

00:55:45.700 Sweden and, and, and, in all of Western Europe.

00:55:49.320 Um, and, uh, we can also see, I know because I, I am in contact with a lot of people who,

00:55:58.480 uh, you know, they have high positions in society or they have built big companies.

00:56:04.360 They are not really ready to be officially on our side, but they listen to what we say

00:56:10.060 and they, uh, they like the work we do.

00:56:12.700 Some of them even might consider donating money and so on.

00:56:16.540 Um, and I think, uh, our enemies know this as well.

00:56:20.140 They see how things are changing the overtone window and a lot more people using our talking

00:56:24.380 points.

00:56:24.780 So what they are hoping for is, of course, a way to ban us or to discredit us, to make,

00:56:31.340 um, nationalism, uh, paria or, you know, almost impossible to be associated with this.

00:56:39.780 What we are talking about now, this, uh, case is not it, you know, that will not destroy

00:56:45.300 everything.

00:56:45.960 As I said, some guys getting drunk and, and beating up people allegedly is, uh, it's not

00:56:53.720 like a, not really newsworthy normally.

00:56:57.300 Of course, they will try to use this, but if we continue down this path, as we did in the

00:57:05.280 end of the nineties, early two thousands, where this kind of violence was quite regular,

00:57:11.540 then, uh, they will have the tools because now they have much more, uh, surveillance.

00:57:20.340 Uh, they have, uh, new laws in place that they didn't have 25 years ago.

00:57:26.060 And now they have the tools.

00:57:28.060 And if we give them the reason they can crush us before we have built a foundation strong

00:57:37.320 enough, enough to withstand that.

00:57:39.620 Of course, in the free Sweden, we realize that if we are successful, our enemies will

00:57:45.640 try to ban us or stop us in different ways.

00:57:48.900 So we need to build an organization or a network that is quite decentralized and which is hard

00:57:58.480 to ban.

00:57:59.560 And talking about this decentralized structure, um, these active clubs, um, some people see

00:58:07.600 this as a new phenomenon, um, I see them as very much a replication of what we did in Sweden

00:58:16.480 between 2005 and 2010 with the so-called free nationalist movement, fria nationalister.

00:58:23.980 So this was also a leaderless resistance.

00:58:26.500 This was, uh, groups of friends in different areas, uh, who just came together to do activism,

00:58:34.180 to, to train together, to build this kind of network.

00:58:37.660 And this was, uh, inspired by the, uh, Freie Nationalisten in Germany, which came out of necessity

00:58:45.740 because in Germany they were banning all the nationalist organizations.

00:58:48.740 So instead of having this one big organization, you had this, uh, network of friends, more or less

00:58:55.120 called free nationalist groups, uh, which was much, much harder to, to ban.

00:59:00.360 And if you banned one, there was a thousand others.

00:59:02.560 So we did the same thing in Sweden.

00:59:05.060 Um, one of our most...

00:59:06.380 Kind of what Antifa claims that they're doing, right?

00:59:07.720 I mean, they are far more organized, obviously, but that's what they claim.

00:59:10.600 Like, oh, it's just an ideology.

00:59:11.980 It's not, it's, you know, no one's in charge.

00:59:14.160 Anyway, go on.

00:59:14.820 Yeah, and, and, and what happened then with free nationalists where I was active as well

00:59:19.720 was that we had some groups who were really good at, you know, street activism and they,

00:59:25.820 you know, some really, really good guys, but that also had, um, other problems, drugs,

00:59:33.320 antisocial violence and stuff like that.

00:59:35.720 And the rest of us, we didn't say anything because, you know, they were really good at,

00:59:40.000 you know, organizing protests and handing out leaflets and, um,

00:59:44.820 in the end, this leaderless resistance and this idea of all these decentralized groups

00:59:54.080 led to nobody being in charge and nobody being able to say that, okay, if you're a free

01:00:01.640 nationalist, you behave like this and not like that because the group in Southern Gothenburg,

01:00:08.140 they could decide for themselves and the group in, in, in, you know, Northern Gothenburg had

01:00:14.920 nothing to say about that.

01:00:16.980 And Gothenburg, I say that as an example, because this was a very tragic development.

01:00:24.680 Um, it's no meaning to name any names, but one of the guys, um, died a few years later,

01:00:31.660 uh, and one of the leaders in an overdose, um, and there was a lot of drugs, uh, a lot of violence.

01:00:39.680 Some were, uh, imprisoned for, for quite a long time.

01:00:44.200 Others, uh, disappeared early enough.

01:00:47.660 But when I look back at these guys, um, I think two or three of them are dead.

01:00:52.560 Um, others are now part of criminal gangs or they have moved away from Gothenburg, you know,

01:00:58.940 like you're leaving a cult, like you're leaving a criminal gang.

01:01:03.120 And this is what I'm going to talk about is criminal identity.

01:01:06.500 And, uh, that's, so what the active clubs are doing right now, uh, it's not new.

01:01:13.660 We have done it before.

01:01:15.060 I heard it from some young guys like, yeah, but we have now found a new way.

01:01:19.280 You know, we don't have a big organization.

01:01:21.300 We have all these small clubs.

01:01:23.040 Yes, we have that as well.

01:01:24.200 We have done that before.

01:01:25.820 It's very good that you are doing that.

01:01:27.440 If it works for you, continue doing that, but understand that all these strategies also

01:01:33.200 come with downsides.

01:01:35.580 And I guess I'm not sure how this works in the active clubs who can call themselves an

01:01:41.220 active club.

01:01:42.120 Somebody has to decide that, I guess, uh, otherwise you really will have a problem.

01:01:46.500 Um, and, uh, or is it like if somebody starts calling themselves an active club, you can

01:01:55.360 beat them up to me.

01:01:57.380 It then sounds like the, the, the, the motorcycle clubs, you cannot just say that I'm bandidos

01:02:04.000 or I am hell's angels and you will have problems.

01:02:08.040 Um, and I don't think we should model our organization and our minds in the same way as the criminals

01:02:16.000 do, uh, that will create, that will, will create new problems.

01:02:20.060 Yeah.

01:02:20.340 Um, so there are many things to consider here and, and just understand that we have done

01:02:29.020 the same thing.

01:02:30.540 And it didn't go that well.

01:02:33.200 Um, so of course, one thing they do different is that they have the kind of, I guess, straight

01:02:38.380 edge type of attitude for the most part to this, right?

01:02:41.160 No drugs.

01:02:41.800 This is at no alcohol, which makes the other case, um, all that more curious actually, because

01:02:46.980 apparently if some of them were tested positive for, for drugs, right?

01:02:50.180 So either that means they are not dedicated and they're not adherence to the principles

01:02:58.460 that they have within the active clubs, their recent members, it's some kind of internal

01:03:02.380 gay op or, you know, there's many questions that we have here and maybe they're trying

01:03:05.920 to figure that out internally as well.

01:03:08.060 Um, who knows, but it's, um, it shows you a little bit of different level to it than there's

01:03:13.100 like, okay, well that I thought there were no drugs, unless that's some, some other fake

01:03:17.300 aspect of this, how did they know, do you, you went through the, um, police report there

01:03:21.100 you said, right?

01:03:21.580 So they prove that they are members of this group because of the group, the chats that

01:03:27.360 they had or something like that.

01:03:28.240 Was that the, the argument?

01:03:29.500 The chats and that they were graffitiing active club, uh, as they were beating these guys up.

01:03:36.580 So he was when the rabbi goes out and does the swastika. 0.86

01:03:39.280 Got it.

01:03:39.800 And, uh, in, uh, in the prison cell as well, they have like, you know, made some,

01:03:47.300 not rune stone, but, you know, carved some symbols and also like active, Nordic bronze

01:03:52.640 age, rock carving.

01:03:53.580 Got it.

01:03:53.920 Yeah.

01:03:54.120 Yeah.

01:03:55.220 Then they had, you know, in the house raids, they found a lot of stickers and, and apparently

01:04:00.960 one of them had a book by a German, Austrian painter, but, uh, that's, that's also everything,

01:04:06.300 which I don't know, because that was like a big thing in Aftonblad that the big tabloid.

01:04:11.480 Check.

01:04:11.940 Right.

01:04:12.080 You need all these things you need. 0.91

01:04:13.940 You know, I'm not, look, I'm not going to do the gay. 1.00

01:04:15.900 Yeah.

01:04:16.200 It's probably my, my, my, my grandfather, he is, uh, he was a, a staunch, uh, communist.

01:04:22.220 He also had that book in his shelf.

01:04:24.960 Well, at least he was willing to read, I guess.

01:04:28.140 I didn't learn though, but he read it at least.

01:04:29.720 Well, supposedly, uh, so someone mentioned in chat too, and that's a good point, right?

01:04:34.580 Um, basically it's also about, you know, cause then you get this, again, we're down to the

01:04:40.940 mentality of like us shattering into smaller bits.

01:04:45.060 Well, at least, you know, again, there's a function of that, I've said, but, but when

01:04:47.780 it's too much or it becomes about old versus young or maybe a class issue, right? 1.00

01:04:53.240 We hate the people with, with means and money, like fuck, you know, cause they, you know, 1.00

01:04:57.360 they're, they're well adjusted to a sick system and a sick society, um, of sorts, because kind 1.00

01:05:03.720 of the point I want to mention earlier was a little bit, you do have kind of, at least

01:05:06.440 traditionally, obviously should be recognized and I'm not saying that's the case here or

01:05:11.020 with active clubs or many other these days, cause the, the environment has changed.

01:05:14.700 It's far more acceptable now, but in the past, it is true that you had people that basically

01:05:20.120 could not adjust to society being drawn to, you know, quote unquote marginalized groups

01:05:24.460 for their community, for their, uh, to, to get friends and so forth, right?

01:05:28.680 You, you, you seek out some thing on the periphery, be that nationalist or in some cases

01:05:33.340 it's the communist group or it's the, the, this group or that group or whatever, because

01:05:38.600 they can't adjust well to society.

01:05:40.940 And I understand it's not for everyone to, you know, tighten up the tie, try to get a

01:05:45.980 good job and make tons of money within the system.

01:05:49.100 It's, it's increasingly difficult.

01:05:51.360 I mean, in some cases impossible to do it as well.

01:05:53.980 So that should be mentioned.

01:05:55.880 But then at the same time, there's a part of me where it's like, at some point you just

01:05:59.060 kind of, you kind of have to try to play the game and be well adjusted in a system that,

01:06:05.140 you know, hates you, whatever, because you have developed a mentality and a mindset that

01:06:10.280 is that like, think long-term, be as disciplined as you can use the system as long as you can

01:06:18.460 take advantage of it, uh, or whatever.

01:06:20.840 But unfortunately in the past, as you said, it's been this, it's a person that can't, is

01:06:26.020 unable to adjust to that, which I understand again, but therefore they go and seek a different

01:06:33.080 path essentially to, to have, you know, some level of success within that.

01:06:37.180 And so, and in some cases, that's why you've had, let's be honest, a lot of, you know, kind

01:06:40.880 of what, you know, miss maladjusted individuals attracted to nationalist groups, right?

01:06:47.080 Would you agree?

01:06:48.800 Yeah, absolutely.

01:06:49.620 Um, and I think in all radical movements, because we are of course radical in the way

01:06:56.440 that we want to change society from the root, um, you get the idealists and the guys who

01:07:04.420 have nothing to lose.

01:07:06.360 Those are the first guys who join.

01:07:08.820 Um, and, uh, this is normal.

01:07:11.640 And, and, uh, so you, you, you had another article up here that I wrote.

01:07:16.040 So what should young men do then instead, um, instead of, you know, getting into these

01:07:21.100 kinds of troubles, I think what we need to tell young, young men is, so you said it's

01:07:27.600 marriage, it's a marathon, not a sprint.

01:07:29.220 So what can I invest today to have the best possible return on investment in the future?

01:07:36.980 Uh, how can I become an asset when I'm older?

01:07:41.760 Uh, so I do believe as a young man up until you're 30, it's really a buildup phase.

01:07:47.900 This is where you can, um, focus on, on, you know, becoming the best possible version of

01:07:55.880 yourself that can of course include fitness and, uh, ideological studies and so on.

01:08:02.180 Um, but also when it comes to, if you, you know, if you have the, the, the brain for

01:08:07.620 it, you know, to go through university, whatever you think about it, it will become an important

01:08:12.560 asset for you, uh, in the society in the future, you can go into institutions or you can help

01:08:18.440 build parallel institutions.

01:08:21.080 If you're not that kind of guy, um, you can, uh, maybe you're more into starting your first

01:08:28.820 company and fail and then start your next company.

01:08:32.600 Because when you are 22, you have probably no kids.

01:08:37.260 Uh, you probably don't have a big mortgage on, on a house.

01:08:40.600 Uh, you, you, you know, you can fail and still get up without creating big problems for you.

01:08:46.760 If you succeed with any of these, you will become a great asset to the movement in the

01:08:52.800 future financially as an, uh, employer and, and so on.

01:08:57.760 If you're, you're not into starting a company or studying at university, become, uh, the best

01:09:04.320 possible, um, co-worker at your working place, become a great neighbor, um, take care of yourself,

01:09:12.180 become fit and smart.

01:09:13.920 And in that way, you will be able to attract, uh, the most high valuable women, which also 0.99

01:09:22.820 mean that you will raise a great family, which is another great asset to our cause.

01:09:28.420 So all of this is possible to focus on between the ages of 15 and 30.

01:09:35.160 Um, this Austrian painter that we mentioned before, uh, he's not the first one, but he also

01:09:42.140 said that, uh, you should not really be into, uh, politics as an official representative

01:09:49.300 until you're 30.

01:09:50.840 I, I, I don't agree with him on everything, but I do actually agree on that.

01:09:55.680 I understand it's really hard because you want to have a change and you want to do it

01:09:59.520 now.

01:09:59.820 And you, you know, the weapon you have are your fists.

01:10:03.160 So it's, you know, let's go out and, and, and create the change.

01:10:06.880 Um, but if you would instead invest all that energy into building yourself into a great

01:10:14.500 asset in the future, um, you, you will have a lot more weapons than just your fists.

01:10:21.700 Um, and I don't mean literal weapons.

01:10:23.900 If you're listening, FBI.

01:10:27.340 Yeah.

01:10:28.000 Um, which is so hard to do right at that.

01:10:32.020 Absolutely. 0.99

01:10:32.320 I mean, fucking hell. 0.99

01:10:34.040 I mean, again, and even this, you know, the, the, as you're talking about those things, 0.99

01:10:38.000 I hear, I hear the voices of kind of myself, I guess, in the past as well.

01:10:41.820 It's like, well, everything is rigged against me.

01:10:44.720 Like I, I, I can't, I can't make a move.

01:10:46.700 I can't, you know, white man is pushed out everywhere.

01:10:49.060 No need to apply.

01:10:50.640 You're not going to get the job.

01:10:51.720 You're not going to be well adjusted because they don't want you to be.

01:10:54.860 So I understand the frustration, right?

01:10:56.660 Which makes it so much kind of harder.

01:10:58.860 And again, that's why partially I see it fall on us, right?

01:11:01.440 Like, or like if they have the, the virality, the, the energy, the, um, uh, you know, basically

01:11:09.680 the, the, the, the, the, the energy to change something or to push it in a new direction.

01:11:15.600 They, lots of creativity in a way in younger people that you usually don't see in older

01:11:20.440 people.

01:11:20.780 You know, these things fall away after 27, 30, something like that, your creativity or, or

01:11:25.400 ability to think outside of the box declines for whatever, whatever, whatever reason.

01:11:29.440 And, and it's not always, I mean, it's also personally because you have, then you have

01:11:33.320 other goals and stuff.

01:11:34.220 You people, you know, generally people get families, they have a job, they have other

01:11:37.300 things that you don't have, they don't have as much free time as others.

01:11:39.980 So that, that's it.

01:11:40.700 Right.

01:11:40.840 But what I want to get to is that's our responsibility in the sense to, to help on, on ramp these guys

01:11:46.680 into a structure where they can put that energy, right?

01:11:50.020 Be that building something literally, you know, like what you guys are doing with the free

01:11:53.760 Sweden, these, the houses and the projects and, uh, there's other groups that are, you

01:11:58.040 know, but they're buying land together or they are setting up businesses or whatever.

01:12:01.140 And that's some, you know, for, for a radical young man, that sounds like, oh my gosh, you're 1.00

01:12:05.900 like, oh, a business fun, you know, like, fuck you. 1.00

01:12:08.740 It's like, look, I get it. 1.00

01:12:10.320 You know, kind of thing.

01:12:11.480 Um, but as you said, it's what, what can you do?

01:12:14.380 You can, you can give the advice and will people listen.

01:12:16.680 I can show you the door, but I, I'm not going to, you know, you have to walk through it.

01:12:19.820 Right.

01:12:19.960 That's kind of how this, how this works.

01:12:22.120 Right.

01:12:23.100 But what I'm saying is, yeah, go ahead.

01:12:24.820 You know, this is coming from, from me, the old man.

01:12:28.540 And I probably lost some of that, uh, energy that I had 20 years ago and take what I say

01:12:36.880 and, uh, listen or talk with your young friends and try to find a compromise.

01:12:42.520 At least you don't have to go fully into what I said now.

01:12:46.680 I mean, this is the perspective I have today.

01:12:49.820 As a 43 year old, um, you know, father of two married, uh, to a lovely wife and, you

01:12:56.600 know, quite well adjusted, uh, in many ways, which I haven't always been, but still, you

01:13:03.440 know, uh, fully dedicated nationalist and, and, you know, working with our project and

01:13:08.320 so on.

01:13:09.120 Uh, I think the, the, the energy of the youth is really, really important and it has to

01:13:15.120 be channeled.

01:13:16.200 Right.

01:13:16.500 So, uh, the, the establishment always knew this by the way, and that's why most revolutionary 0.99

01:13:22.400 movements, they've used the young as in most regards, obviously then as a useful idiots. 0.99

01:13:26.360 Right. 0.99

01:13:26.640 But they know that, and they know that there's an inherent instinctual rebellious spirit

01:13:32.000 with it.

01:13:32.300 That's just the biology ultimately of like a younger people separating themselves from 0.99

01:13:36.180 their parents in the previous generation, but to become independent.

01:13:38.680 That's how they learn.

01:13:39.400 Right.

01:13:39.600 But they've channeled that and used it for all these, you know, of course, leftist

01:13:44.340 movements and communism, Marxism and that type of stuff.

01:13:46.800 Anyway, but back to your point, Don.

01:13:48.300 Yeah.

01:13:48.480 So, I mean, even if you don't do exactly what I say, uh, I guess nobody will, hopefully

01:13:56.160 like 50% of that will stick and you will choose at least a more, you know, productive path,

01:14:02.080 but fueled with your youth and energy and thinking outside, outside of the box capabilities that

01:14:08.020 I, I've lost probably.

01:14:09.480 So, uh, because I, I hear myself and I know exactly what, how I was reasoning 20, 25 years

01:14:18.340 ago.

01:14:19.080 And if I, I, you almost began with this question, would I have listened if somebody told me this

01:14:26.040 when I was young?

01:14:26.740 I'm not sure.

01:14:27.580 I hope I would.

01:14:29.040 Um, at least I hope.

01:14:31.240 If it was someone I respected, I would, right.

01:14:33.540 That's the other difference too.

01:14:35.240 And of course, again, and that's why the work that you're doing and Magnus and so many

01:14:39.000 others, you know, in, in the Swedish national scene, they're so important, right?

01:14:42.360 Because it's over time and you building something, making something for yourself, something that

01:14:46.980 works, something that other people benefit from, that you guys benefit from that will

01:14:50.860 earn respect over time.

01:14:52.080 And I think those guys will see that like, okay, well, obviously they're doing something

01:14:55.380 right.

01:14:56.280 You know what I mean?

01:14:56.600 Again, and you have your own battles and there's fights that I assume you guys are doing that

01:15:01.980 people aren't even involved in on the backend and there's legal, you know, there's all kinds

01:15:05.840 of issues, which means, yes, it's not growing as what you see front facing and correct me

01:15:11.440 if I'm wrong, Don, but what you see front facing people has go, well, what are, you know,

01:15:16.360 why is not more happening sooner or whatever?

01:15:18.640 Well, we're in the same boat as you guys.

01:15:20.060 Everything is working against us.

01:15:21.580 The whole system is, is trying to grind us to a halt.

01:15:23.960 So it is moving slower for us than he would for any other ethnic group or any other, or,

01:15:28.700 you know, interest organization or something like that.

01:15:30.660 Right.

01:15:30.820 Yeah, absolutely.

01:15:32.740 And, and for us, it's always been like two steps forward or one step back, you know?

01:15:36.880 Right.

01:15:37.320 Yeah.

01:15:37.560 And this is, this is the dance.

01:15:39.620 That's how it looks.

01:15:41.200 That's how it is.

01:15:42.360 But what we have realized and what we are doing right now is when we talk about building

01:15:47.580 a foundation is that instead of what we have always done.

01:15:51.480 So the modern Swedish nationalist movement is around 40 years old.

01:15:56.500 You could say it started with BSS, keep Sweden Swedish, which then turned into the Sweden 0.70

01:16:02.260 Democrats in the eighties.

01:16:05.100 So during this 40 years, a lot of the naturalist movement has been, you know, head first, forward,

01:16:10.860 trying to make a difference.

01:16:12.780 And then you hit the wall and it's over.

01:16:16.440 And then you have nothing to continue building from.

01:16:20.280 So what we have realized, instead of just going forward and then backwards, we are trying

01:16:25.640 to lay a foundation, you know, like a horizontal work as well.

01:16:30.420 So even if we don't always move forward, we are building this foundation wider and wider,

01:16:37.280 which means that more people can come and join it and do constructive work.

01:16:42.580 And if me and Magnus who are in the leadership, if we die or if we fall off for some reason,

01:16:52.960 there is something to continue building on concrete stuff, the houses, the networks, the

01:16:59.000 companies, I mean, the houses that the active club has been able to use for, for the training

01:17:05.040 sessions.

01:17:06.720 We didn't have those things when we were young.

01:17:09.800 We had no meeting places.

01:17:11.320 We had nowhere where we could, you know, just have an official meeting.

01:17:17.900 There was always the secret meeting points and renting someplace in under false pretext

01:17:24.260 and so on.

01:17:25.140 So we are building this foundation so that even if we, you know, there's some kind of resistance

01:17:34.240 and we can't move forward, we will leave something behind to continue working on.

01:17:41.320 Think about all these great guys in the eighties and nineties, some were skinheads, some were

01:17:47.000 more like, you know, the political party types.

01:17:50.200 You had this big music scene and everything, you know, it was, it was really big in Sweden

01:17:54.880 back then.

01:17:55.840 Sweden was the biggest export country of nationalist, white nationalist music.

01:18:01.500 Like, I don't know if it's in the world or in Europe, but it was, it was huge.

01:18:05.920 Um, and from that, you know, when that scene died, there was nothing.

01:18:12.920 It was just memories and a few CDs, but for the next generation, you know, there was nothing

01:18:18.960 to continue building on.

01:18:21.660 Like not even.

01:18:23.100 What is CDs?

01:18:23.940 By the way.

01:18:24.560 No, I'm just joking.

01:18:25.300 Exactly.

01:18:26.480 That's what you're talking about, Boomer.

01:18:28.320 Come back.

01:18:29.060 I'm sorry.

01:18:29.620 CDs.

01:18:30.200 It's like.

01:18:31.600 Remember this thing?

01:18:32.500 Yeah.

01:18:32.580 How do you even explain it?

01:18:33.360 It was like magic.

01:18:34.600 Sorry.

01:18:35.040 I didn't mean to derail you.

01:18:36.340 Go on.

01:18:36.460 You can have like 16 tracks on one CD.

01:18:38.960 Yeah.

01:18:39.160 It's amazing.

01:18:39.780 Exactly.

01:18:40.980 All right.

01:18:42.520 Yeah.

01:18:42.920 And I think, I think you can, you know, so you can be part of an active club as you should,

01:18:47.120 as, as, as all the young men watching should be, obviously.

01:18:50.900 Uh, but then gray man it at the same time.

01:18:53.320 Right.

01:18:53.560 And I think many of them are right.

01:18:54.700 But it's, it's, it's about a mindset.

01:18:57.040 And again, we're talking about this because we genuinely care about everyone.

01:19:01.140 We, we, we're thinking of the big picture.

01:19:03.260 We're not just thinking of the active club in and of itself, but also how then,

01:19:06.560 their potential mistake might hamper other nationalist movements.

01:19:09.460 So they will just simply then extend those laws to others or whatever.

01:19:11.960 So we're, we're looking out for each other.

01:19:13.640 There's a kind of a, an internal self-policing type of mechanism going on.

01:19:18.420 And that's to various degree will be successful or it will fail that kind of self-policing,

01:19:23.600 obviously, but it's about just kind of having a discussion about creating a mentality of

01:19:28.580 the people that are involved in whatever little niche area that they're involved in to

01:19:34.060 think of this, um, you know, together, you know, like more long-term and like, we want

01:19:39.860 to look out for you.

01:19:40.660 We want you guys to look after us.

01:19:42.140 We want, you know, like this is again, complimentary.

01:19:44.460 Um, and, and it's about creating that Machiavellian long-term, be wise, be smart about this.

01:19:50.060 Think, you know, and, and, and there's a way and a place to put the energy and, and there

01:19:56.220 are mechanisms there.

01:19:57.140 And that can improve too, just as you, as potentially the internal, um, functions of

01:20:03.160 some of these groups, I would assume can improve as well.

01:20:05.620 Right.

01:20:07.260 No, absolutely.

01:20:08.740 And I totally understand that, uh, young guys need their own, uh, communities and their

01:20:15.720 own, you know, groups to belong to where they can develop, uh, you know, in their own

01:20:20.260 way.

01:20:20.620 Uh, when you're in that age, you know, like we arranged like political conferences, weird

01:20:27.040 heathen sermonists and stuff.

01:20:29.800 Maybe that's not for all of them.

01:20:32.280 Uh, some guys like it, even when they're young, uh, but it's not for, not for everyone.

01:20:35.920 It's maybe, and we have like these family events and, you know, stuff like that.

01:20:41.000 It's not, it's not for all the young guys.

01:20:43.180 I totally get that.

01:20:44.320 And it's okay.

01:20:45.120 Uh, it's not like, because I also don't believe in this one big organization where

01:20:50.240 everybody has to do the same thing and, uh, and, and see, uh, the same strategy.

01:20:56.160 Um, so, but it's like the leadership of the free Sweden, all of us have been in the

01:21:04.360 nationalist movement.

01:21:05.280 It's not just me and Magnus, but all of us have been in the nationalist movement since

01:21:09.100 our teens.

01:21:10.060 We have done the same mistakes.

01:21:12.780 We have been where you are today.

01:21:14.380 Uh, and we have seen many of our best friends, um, get into prison, die, get addicted to

01:21:23.820 drugs, or just burn out and, and totally, you know, leave the movement.

01:21:31.440 Uh, and we've never heard from them again, more or less, and we don't want this, want

01:21:36.220 the same fate for you.

01:21:38.100 Uh, and when you're a boomer like me in the future, you're welcome to come to the political

01:21:43.940 conferences, the ceremonies, the family events.

01:21:47.800 Well, then you will say, well, then I will be even older and you will say to that, uh,

01:21:52.460 gray haired man, Don, you were right all the time.

01:21:55.840 And I will say, thank you, son.

01:21:57.820 Thank you.

01:21:58.200 There we go.

01:21:58.680 It was proven, but, but then, but so, but you don't want to, we're not doing it because

01:22:04.680 we want to be told you were right.

01:22:07.700 No, we're doing it for the, the betterment of our people, the survival of our people, the

01:22:13.300 continuation, uh, of our different ethnic groups, our race, our people, our folk, obviously.

01:22:18.600 Right.

01:22:19.380 Um, so yeah, I mean, um, I don't want to reiterate myself too much here, but, uh, you know,

01:22:25.520 ultimately I think we're, we've, we've struck the heart of the matter.

01:22:30.200 I think I'm not, I'm not sure if I'm leaving anything out.

01:22:32.280 Let me know, Don, if there's something we're not kind of covering here.

01:22:35.120 Right.

01:22:35.280 But, um, we all, we all can do much better, you know, um, in the fields that we're in.

01:22:42.080 Right.

01:22:42.300 And we can all, and, and, and we need to work even harder and, and we don't want this

01:22:46.380 to be, as you said, just a quick burst of energy.

01:22:49.580 And that, and I don't think that's the risk for the majority of them, by the way, we should

01:22:52.760 mention too.

01:22:53.260 I don't think that that is the risk to be honest.

01:22:55.500 Um, but we don't want it to be a quick burst of energy and then that's over. 0.97

01:22:58.860 And then God damn it. 0.95

01:22:59.820 Now we have to do something again. 0.99

01:23:01.380 And we're back to, you know, you want something that's multi-generational.

01:23:06.160 You want something that's cross-pollining.

01:23:07.840 I want these guys to, I want them to be successful.

01:23:11.080 I want them to have families.

01:23:12.200 As you said, I want them to have kids.

01:23:13.900 I want them to find a good, a good wife, you know, these kinds of things. 1.00

01:23:17.360 And unfortunately the, that's how it is.

01:23:19.800 And I, I think many of them do as well, by the way, but, um, it's, you know, yeah.

01:23:26.820 Then you have to be well adjusted to a sick system, which makes that, you know, kind of

01:23:30.880 contradiction, right.

01:23:31.820 Of sorts that, that, that like, you know, women will be attracted to status and they 0.99

01:23:36.260 will be attracted to what you, what you, what you have, you know, the stuff you have or

01:23:39.720 the appearances you have or your level of confidence, whatever.

01:23:42.540 And having said that, that's obviously something that's immensely, um, powerful and important

01:23:48.700 here too.

01:23:49.160 Just young men learning how to fight, getting fit, developing that confidence that if you,

01:23:53.600 if you can't change the world, at least change the variables that you can.

01:23:57.580 And what is that?

01:23:58.420 It's the things that are in you, around you, all, you know, your, your, your physical self

01:24:02.860 obviously too, but your mind and your body ultimately.

01:24:06.240 And as you do that, and I'm certain many of them have learned that too, right.

01:24:09.680 That with that comes confidence and so forth.

01:24:11.680 Right.

01:24:12.160 But that attracts great things.

01:24:14.420 And, and too many of our people for, for too long, I think, and I'm not saying that they 0.98

01:24:18.900 are doing this, but many of us, we think at the top, we get to change the

01:24:23.420 top portion of, of the society, you know, like beginning at the top, as opposed to this

01:24:27.540 kind of bottom up to the thing and, and focus on what you can and what you can change around

01:24:31.920 you, the variable that you can control or whatever.

01:24:34.200 And with that, you'll realize that now there are small aspects around you that will begin

01:24:38.700 to change as you begin to change.

01:24:40.460 I mean, it's kind of gay and new agey in a way, but like really the, your inner, inner 1.00

01:24:44.420 self really eventually, uh, becomes a reflection of that.

01:24:49.780 Right.

01:24:50.000 And, and, and people learn kind of what success is.

01:24:52.860 And I think getting physically fit is a, is a fantastic starting point in order to have

01:24:57.860 the sense that you, you are at least in control of yourself.

01:25:01.460 Right.

01:25:02.000 Don.

01:25:02.540 Yeah, absolutely.

01:25:03.520 And I mean, it's a really tough world out there.

01:25:06.560 So being as to learn self-defense, to practice martial arts, to be able to defend yourself.

01:25:12.780 Uh, it's not only a good idea.

01:25:15.820 I think it's, uh, it's a, you know, a crucial idea.

01:25:19.680 It's, it's necessary.

01:25:20.960 Uh, and I think, I hope also that people understand this discussion is not about violence in general,

01:25:29.120 because self-defense, uh, is always morally correct.

01:25:33.680 Um, what had happened in this case, allegedly doesn't look like self-defense and it's something

01:25:41.640 else and, and you had to treat this in a different way.

01:25:44.820 Um, but to learn self-defense, uh, to get fit, to become the best version of yourself,

01:25:50.820 uh, you know, in your neighborhood, uh, at your work, um, in your school, wherever you

01:25:58.040 are active, uh, is really, really important.

01:26:01.120 And being that kind of successful, even in, you know, in the small scale, successful in

01:26:07.740 being fit, successful in being good at your work, attracts other people.

01:26:13.240 It attracts, um, other men because they see you as a role model.

01:26:17.260 It attracts women because you have status. 1.00

01:26:20.180 And then, as I said, you will become an asset in the future.

01:26:23.840 Uh, and, and, and, and I mean, I've, I've been open, an open nationalist, you know, face

01:26:31.500 out for more than 20 years.

01:26:35.060 Uh, I have a good relationship with all my neighbors.

01:26:38.820 Not all of them agree with my political views.

01:26:42.160 Um, and I have, you know, had no problem really keeping a job, uh, before I had my own,

01:26:49.640 my own business.

01:26:50.460 Um, if you are a good person and you do your best, uh, it's usually not as bad as we make

01:27:00.020 it out to be, as you said, you know, we, we build this, um, image for ourselves that

01:27:06.260 everybody is against us and it doesn't matter because I will never get the job anyway, or

01:27:11.860 I will never get into that, that, um, education anyway, because I am who I am and everybody hates

01:27:18.000 me and this outsider mentality is very unattractive to other people, except for maybe a small,

01:27:26.520 small portion, which then come back to this criminal identity.

01:27:31.100 Um, so become the best possible version of yourself in, in all aspects of life.

01:27:39.040 And you will make a difference maybe first just for yourself and your friends and your

01:27:44.580 family, which is not bad.

01:27:46.260 I mean, that's a really, really good thing, but you can also become like a beacon of light

01:27:51.380 for the nationalist movement and make a difference for our folk, our ethnicity, our race.

01:27:58.820 I'm sure of that.

01:28:00.120 No, definitely.

01:28:00.520 And I think there's something interesting too, with the fact that if you are, if you,

01:28:04.920 because it's the struggle that makes the man, right?

01:28:07.200 Let's be honest.

01:28:08.080 It's, it's the, the hard, the hardship that forces you to improve and granted that will

01:28:14.200 either make some people or it will break some people, but that's just, you know, that's

01:28:18.360 just nature, right?

01:28:18.980 That's just the reality of it.

01:28:20.640 Um, although it's rigged and all that stuff, but it's still, you know, we're still in the,

01:28:23.580 in, in that organic system.

01:28:25.140 It's still nature in a way, even the things that humans do, right?

01:28:27.500 That's, that still is the laws of, of nature, but, um, it forces us then to be, since we're

01:28:32.820 perceived as being on a, on a different level or, or, uh, we do have to outperform our enemies

01:28:39.600 and, and, and that, um, quest to do that is what makes us stronger as well, right?

01:28:46.000 We have to compete on a totally different level.

01:28:47.680 While if you have a leg up, if you get help, if you're incentivized to do this or that,

01:28:52.420 whatever, you're not, you're not at all have the same capability to improve yourself.

01:28:58.020 Your life is going to be easier.

01:29:00.140 We, uh, part of us should welcome the hardship and many days that's, that, that is hard,

01:29:05.180 obviously, but we should welcome it in the sense that we can use it as an asset to how

01:29:09.680 we improve ourself.

01:29:10.680 And the fact that we have to now step up in a totally different way that none other have

01:29:14.420 to do.

01:29:14.980 So again, I'm back to that.

01:29:15.980 Like, yeah, we're, we're, we're, um, we're perceived on a different level and they're

01:29:20.740 doing that by holding us actively down.

01:29:23.220 But as they do that, we're going to have to fight so much stronger against it, to push

01:29:26.540 back, to be successful, to think outside of the box, to try new methods, to be more

01:29:31.400 creative or whatnot.

01:29:32.240 And it gives us ironically an advantage.

01:29:34.760 It's begging us to step up and outperform those who seek to undermine us.

01:29:40.160 Yeah, absolutely.

01:29:41.060 You can see it.

01:29:41.620 Then, I mean, I think red eyes is an example of that because, you know, the, the nationalists

01:29:46.940 are, we were never allowed to be a mainstream media.

01:29:50.480 So what do we do?

01:29:51.300 We created, uh, you know, the, the nationalists in, in, in, in Europe and in, in the United

01:29:58.020 States created the best online media there has ever been with almost no resources.

01:30:04.840 Of course, then 10, 15 years later came, you know, all the, uh, the grifters, you know,

01:30:11.300 and they had a lot of funding and they can produce really well-produced shows, but, you

01:30:16.060 know, we won the battle of the internet, you know, by, by creating really good so-called

01:30:21.200 alternative media.

01:30:22.700 Why?

01:30:23.160 Because we were not allowed, uh, to take part in the debates and, and in the mainstream

01:30:28.300 media shows, except for when they were doing hit pieces on us.

01:30:32.920 And we can use this kind of energy and this kind of creativity, which is inside us because

01:30:38.080 we are white people, uh, we can use that in so many other aspects of life and see the,

01:30:45.340 um, the hurdles and the resistance as a motivation to just become better and create better things

01:30:52.400 and do things in, in better ways than our enemies could ever do it.

01:30:57.500 I mean, in Sweden, they have to tax us like more than 50, 60% just to be able to fund all

01:31:05.060 their media and all their, uh, so-called NGOs against us.

01:31:10.640 We can't take part of that money, but still we are reaching more people than they do every

01:31:16.980 day.

01:31:17.840 You know, the, the alternative media in Sweden are still way ahead of all these tax funded

01:31:24.240 NGOs and media projects that reach nobody because, you know, they, there is no soul.

01:31:29.380 There is no real energy behind it.

01:31:32.720 You know, they are just lazy liberals and, uh, we have to, we have, we have already won

01:31:40.340 this battle, the battle of the internet, battle of social media and so on. 0.81

01:31:43.760 They banned us.

01:31:44.800 They, you know, they, they tried all the things, but we just find new ways to, to win again

01:31:49.740 and again and again.

01:31:50.780 I mean, are you tired of winning yet?

01:31:53.000 And, and, and now you need, we need to do that in other parts of society as well.

01:31:58.300 Um, and I think we are on, on the way to, to do that.

01:32:02.560 Yeah, indeed.

01:32:03.260 Yeah.

01:32:03.440 Some remind me in chat here too, it's, um, uh, Rick von Hutten in chat says, uh, yeah, we

01:32:08.660 do what we do because we, we love our people, not because we hate anyone else or, you know,

01:32:13.260 whatever I say.

01:32:13.980 You, also granted you develop the hate for those who are trying to hurt those who you love,

01:32:18.940 right?

01:32:19.180 Kind of thing.

01:32:19.700 Obviously it's, it, there's a justification for it and a function within how we're made

01:32:24.780 up, um, our biology, our psychology, I guess, to a certain extent of, of, um, of wanting

01:32:30.040 to stand up for those that we love.

01:32:31.340 But ultimately it's because we're looking out for our own, not going after someone else.

01:32:35.080 Uh, now that, you know, all the people in our countries, they need to go back. 0.99

01:32:38.580 We know that, uh, they're, they're all going to be repatriated one day.

01:32:42.080 You have to have a, an iron will, a determination that this is inevitable.

01:32:46.460 This is will, this will succeed.

01:32:48.420 Look at the progress we've made over the last 10 years.

01:32:51.420 And, uh, yes, a lot of it is rhetorical, um, or by rhetoric in, in terms of words, but

01:32:58.140 at least we've now managed to get, I think a large swath of, of a lot of people out there.

01:33:02.980 It doesn't mean everyone agrees with us, but even mainstream media articles are, are, as

01:33:06.560 I said before, writing the type of headlines that only radical far-right extremist Nazis would,

01:33:12.420 uh, would, would say, um, 10, 15 years ago or, or something like that.

01:33:16.300 And if this great re-migration doesn't happen in my lifetime or in your lifetime, um, it 0.95

01:33:23.520 doesn't really matter because then at least what we have done now is should be, you know,

01:33:29.480 that the next generation, they will be able to reach the goals or the, the, the coming

01:33:35.460 generation after that, the, the important thing is to understand our, that, you know, our position

01:33:42.680 in this long chain, uh, and, uh, that we are continuing the struggle of our forefathers.

01:33:50.060 I mean, politics has changed and things look different because of the mass immigration, 1.00

01:33:54.520 but the, the, the struggle for our race and for our people is not something modern, right?

01:34:00.860 I, I, I, you know, you can look back in history and see this being a struggle that has gone

01:34:06.280 on for, uh, for centuries, if not millennia.

01:34:09.520 So we are continuing that struggle and our duty is to create the best possible position for the

01:34:20.660 next generation to continue that struggle. So they will begin on a better position than we did.

01:34:28.180 And if the great re-migration happens tomorrow in 10 years, 100 years, or let's think about 1.00

01:34:36.680 the Reconquista, if it happens in 800 years, it doesn't matter because we have to play our

01:34:42.140 part in the struggle. There are things we can't change. There are things we can't influence right

01:34:47.400 now, but we can become more and more powerful, more and more smart so that one day we will have

01:34:54.160 victory for our people.

01:34:56.040 Indeed. Exactly. And we create those best circumstances for our progeny by having ice cold,

01:35:02.060 calculated, you know, I mean, uh, mission, uh, up, up here, as opposed to just red, um, you know,

01:35:09.260 glowing hot, uh, bursts of energy, which has its place, mind you. And, uh, and, and the time for

01:35:15.640 that is right. But, you know, as many people have said that have won a great battle, so we're certainly

01:35:19.580 in one of the greatest ones possibly we've ever been, uh, collectively speaking, our people,

01:35:24.160 um, it timing is very important too, right? When, when to strike, when to do this, when to do that,

01:35:32.580 and when to move the pieces on the chessboard and, and, you know, how far and everything else.

01:35:36.960 So yeah, it's as much, much, uh, in, in need of energy and vitality as it is strategy, uh, and long-term

01:35:44.400 planning and thinking. But anyway, Dawn, I think that's a, that's a great point to, uh, to begin

01:35:48.220 wrapping up our discussion on. I appreciate you joining us, uh, tell people where they can follow you,

01:35:52.640 what you guys are up to, what you're doing, if there's something specific you want to plug before

01:35:55.960 we let you go. Absolutely. So I have an, uh, English language, uh, sub stack called beyond

01:36:02.700 collapse. It's on english.danerickson.com. Um, I write there irregularly and there is a podcast as well,

01:36:10.480 but I talk about these subjects, like how do we prepare for, you know, if the big political

01:36:18.840 change doesn't come in our lifetime, what can we still do? And, and how can we be prepared for

01:36:26.220 what I believe is the most, um, probable future? So you could always follow that. Uh, if you're

01:36:33.480 Swedish, uh, go check out, uh, detfriasverige.se, uh, see if it's something for you, uh, become a part

01:36:41.160 of it and help us build parallel structures for Swedish people. Indeed. You guys do great work.

01:36:47.820 Uh, you have all my support and admiration for what you guys are doing. It's extremely important

01:36:52.060 and, uh, and I love what you guys are, are doing. So, uh, you can follow Don on Twitter or X as well.

01:36:57.720 Obviously it's Ericsson Don, um, at the, the handle. Um, thank you, man. I appreciate it. Um,

01:37:03.980 always good talking to you for having me. Yeah. Um, so yeah, let's stay in touch. Keep up the good

01:37:08.480 work, Don, as always. And, uh, we will, we'll talk more soon. All right. Take care. Cheers. All

01:37:13.820 right. Awesome. Okay, guys. Thank you, uh, for joining us, everybody. Hope you enjoyed, uh, that

01:37:18.000 interview, a little discussion around these important topics. We're going to be back tomorrow

01:37:22.540 then, ladies and gentlemen. I do want to give thanks to a couple of people here, obviously our

01:37:25.560 executive producers and so forth before we let you guys go. But, uh, do keep in mind tomorrow we're

01:37:30.800 doing, uh, we're having a little fun, a little, uh, less serious business tomorrow. Uh, we're doing our

01:37:35.440 Halloween stream. So make sure you tune in for that October 31st. And, uh, we, uh, I think

01:37:42.400 we'll go live at 5 p.m. Eastern. And that is, then that is not 2,300 hours Central European

01:37:49.340 time because goddamn, uh, daylight savings offsets. What is that? That's actually mid, midnight 0.98

01:37:55.780 then I believe, right? Is that midnight? Is that right? Am I getting down the right order?

01:37:59.100 Anyway, we'll, uh, we'll keep you guys posted. Um, let's just do away with the daylight savings

01:38:05.120 hour. It's just, it's way too comfy. And then Europe does it two weeks earlier before

01:38:09.100 the U S anyway, it doesn't matter. All right. Anyway, guys, so join us for that. Uh, we

01:38:12.860 got a great, fantastic, incredible super chat here from Albert as well. I want to take a

01:38:17.040 couple of these here before we round up. Thank you so much, Albert, as always one of our

01:38:21.120 incredible supporters. Love you, Albert. Thank you. It says, hi, I'm going to watch this

01:38:24.980 later on after work. Take care. Have a great time at work, Albert. Always good seeing

01:38:28.520 you. Thank you so much for your incredible support. We appreciate you so, so much. Uh, we have

01:38:32.700 another one here. Oh, I hope this wasn't a question for Don because we did let him go.

01:38:36.380 Uh, but blue eyes, white dragon, uh, since the donor here on entropy says you can't go

01:38:42.120 wrong by making families. That's correct. What advice? Oh yeah. See, he did a question.

01:38:46.820 I'm sorry. I dropped the ball on that. I should have checked in sooner. This has such a good

01:38:50.820 conversation. I didn't keep up with the chat. I do apologize. What advice would you give

01:38:54.240 to, uh, two countries which solely male only active clubs about updating policies to include

01:39:00.560 women and handle honeypot paranoia? How much work goes into changing the standards, uh, standard 1.00

01:39:07.420 operation procedures? I think Don would have more to say about that. If you're asking specifically

01:39:11.400 about obviously the switcher situation with the, uh, Swedish nationalism or the active clubs

01:39:16.340 there specifically. Um, yeah, I mean, you, you can't update, I would answer it like this. Uh,

01:39:23.520 if you're taking my answer, updating policies, you can try from the outside, but obviously as always,

01:39:29.500 these are internal machinations of the group or those leaders of that group themselves,

01:39:34.300 obviously all we can do is recommend things or whatever and talk, but yes, I agree with you.

01:39:38.260 The, the goal should be that these guys should have families and kids of their own and become,

01:39:42.220 you know, professionally in the way that they can become professional and while still maintaining

01:39:47.180 the, you know, the, the, the vigor and, and, and everything that they've laid the foundation

01:39:51.360 for within these active clubs, obviously, um, with fitness and, and learning to fight and

01:39:56.420 all that stuff, defend yourself, right? All these things. Um, but yeah, um, that's how I would

01:40:01.500 answer that honeypot thing. Yeah. It's, there is a lot of paranoia in some cases, of course,

01:40:05.380 it's justified, I'd say obviously as well as we've seen, um, many times, but it's about learning to

01:40:11.740 read people that that comes with, with wisdom. You know what I mean? That's, that's just what it is.

01:40:16.700 That's why it's so important to have the, uh, cross generational input, I guess, with people

01:40:22.140 that have made mistakes in the past, people that can help, help you read a situation or read a

01:40:27.620 person or do a cold reading or whatnot. And, uh, yeah, it's ultimately about getting people in

01:40:32.260 touch with their instincts to a certain extent. At some point you have to try, you have to trust

01:40:35.680 someone in order to know if you can trust them or not. It sounds kind of weird and contradictory.

01:40:40.240 That's just kind of how those things work. And in some regards, it's because people do get

01:40:45.440 burnt or they do get, you know, honey potted in the context of your, uh, your question that they

01:40:50.080 learn those things or how to avoid those traps in the future. Thank you, Blue Eyes, uh, White 0.91

01:40:54.680 Dragon. Appreciate your, uh, super chat. Very, very nice of you. Okay. So we'll be back tomorrow.

01:40:59.360 As I said, if you do want to support the show, we appreciate you guys. Thank you so much to all

01:41:03.040 our members out there. You make this show possible. Uh, do me a favor, sign up for a membership. It's

01:41:08.380 only 10 us dollars per month. You can get that down as well. By the way, if you get a longer

01:41:12.540 subscriptions, we have all the way up to two years, that's almost 35, 40% off. Uh, you can get that

01:41:17.680 at redicemembers.com. Uh, if you want to sign up month to month, you can do that also on

01:41:21.980 redicetv.locals.com or subscribestar.com slash redice. We say thank you to all our members

01:41:27.900 and to obviously to all our super chatters. We appreciate you guys as well. Tremendously.

01:41:32.260 Uh, and then of course, thank you to our executive producers as well. First out the gates, as always,

01:41:38.560 we got Albert Arctic Wolf. Thank you so much for your support. We have William Fox, America

01:41:43.620 First Books. Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. We got Angry White Socket Mom. 0.99

01:41:47.980 Thank you for your support as well. We got Purple Haze. Thank you. Appreciate it.

01:41:53.500 And we got Glenn, also one of our executive producers. Thank you so much as well. We

01:41:57.320 appreciate you. We have Red Pill Rundown. Thank you for your support as well.

01:42:02.200 And we got President Obunga. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. We also have Teutonic Werebear.

01:42:09.140 Appreciate you as well. Thank you for your support. We got Good Luck Lab. Thank you. Appreciate

01:42:13.680 it. And we also have number one Jeebs. I was saying no one Jeebs, but it's number one Jeebs,

01:42:19.980 obviously. Thank you. We got Hungarian Mom as well. Thank you. Thank you to all the Hungarian

01:42:24.000 fam over there. Thank you. And we got Santoso as well. One of our executive producers. Thank

01:42:29.180 you, guys. You're sent from the gods. We appreciate you. Together with our producers,

01:42:33.600 we have Charles Turner Jr., Johansson, Leroy Dumand, Ice Open, Single Action Army, Lord HB

01:42:38.760 Lovecraft, Trevor, Der Schwabe, Shane B., Alcyon, The Boo Man, Aurelian, Perfect Brute, Greg M.,

01:42:43.980 J. Barr, Chris W., and Skarzinski. Thank you, producers. We appreciate you. If you want to get

01:42:48.460 one of those, redicemembers.com. You can get it at subscribestar.com slash redice as well.

01:42:54.080 So get a shout out at the end of the show. A special thanks from us here at Red Ice. All right,

01:43:00.060 guys. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. So again, then tomorrow, a little bit more fun laid back. We

01:43:04.200 get some costumes and stuff. So we're going to have a good time. Shoot the breeze. Maybe we'll talk

01:43:08.880 about some horror stories and other such things. But join us for that 5 p.m. Eastern midnight then,

01:43:15.640 I believe, Central European time. I got to fix that as well. So yeah, we'll be back with that

01:43:19.940 tomorrow. So thank you, guys. Appreciate all of you. Folk first, as always. And we'll see you guys,

01:43:27.100 well, in just not too many hours, 28 hours or so. Okay, see you then. Take care. Thank you to Dawn as

01:43:32.580 well, by the way. Now, do make sure that you follow us on our Rumble channel for more Red Ice TV on

01:43:47.160 rumble.com or on X at Red Ice TV. You can of course go to Red Ice.tv as well. Tune in to our live

01:43:54.600 streams and shows Flashback Friday live on Fridays at 5 p.m. Eastern. No go zone Wednesdays at 5 p.m.

01:44:01.460 Eastern. We also do interviews, videos, clips, and Western Warrior is available Tuesdays exclusive for

01:44:07.540 our supporters and subscribers at Red Ice members.com or on our local Red Ice TV.locals.com

01:44:14.880 or Subscribestar.com slash Red Ice. Get a membership, check out everything that we do and support the show.

01:44:37.540 New Red Ice merch available now. Both first t-shirts for adults and for toddlers. Fatigues for men. 0.86

01:44:45.920 Our favorite, the Red Ice camper mug or ceramic with black print. High quality leather keychain with

01:44:52.840 solar boat imprint. Our Red Ice hat, one of our best sellers. Pick one up today or why not? Gray

01:45:02.420 Oslander Rouse t-shirts for both women and men. We also have fridge magnets. Polk first. One disease and 0.94

01:45:11.120 our black men's t-shirt with the classic red solar boat. Polk first. Get your white power. Very powerful 1.00

01:45:23.580 fridge magnet today, folks. Lana's llama. Proud sponsor of Red Ice. 0.83

01:45:53.580 Red Ice. They speak of love and tolerance. Thrive on people's ignorance. To make you all

01:46:04.840 slaves of fear. They feed on your anxiety. To build their dead society. They kept you down. For a thousand

01:46:15.960 shivers. found the weapons themselves.ántice lands. And escape them. They

01:46:35.960 nurture reg another destiny, condemn the wars that they create. In the name of what am I

01:46:40.820 And they create in the name of whatever God

01:46:46.600 They gladly sacrifice your life

01:46:49.260 Increasing power is their price

01:46:51.740 Without regrets, they'll spill your blood

01:47:10.820 They're feeding your life

01:47:18.620 We're calculating smiles

01:47:20.940 We're facing off the human mind

01:47:25.840 Let's protest your name 0.93

01:47:28.240 To the head of the right head

01:47:30.680 Religion is what makes you blind 1.00

01:47:35.780 Religion is what makes you blind 1.00

01:48:05.780 They're treating you as mindless fools 1.00

01:48:17.440 They use you as a billion tools 1.00

01:48:19.880 It's time to save

01:48:21.940 Your spirit's free

01:48:24.000 This world we cannot all awake 1.00

01:48:27.220 It's time to steal all bitches' fate 1.00

01:48:29.720 They left the head 1.00

01:48:31.620 From all the streets

01:48:34.000 Your minds are astray

01:48:36.860 For billions of sunshine

01:48:39.140 They blocked you off

01:48:40.720 We've thrown away the gates

01:48:43.660 Your souls are for sale

01:48:46.560 And you're the ones who pay

01:48:48.900 But still, you'll never be the train

01:48:53.380 And seeing your lives

01:48:56.420 We're calculating smiles

01:48:58.880 We're facing off the human mind

01:49:03.820 Let's protest your name

01:49:06.180 To their authority

01:49:08.100 Religion is what makes you blind 1.00

01:49:13.540 Our conditioning is what makes you blind

01:49:16.080 When you're not married

01:49:16.300 We'll be there

01:49:16.980 courtesy of Saint Lords

01:49:18.200 To your пойmer

01:49:20.420 And if our heartsarse

01:49:20.640 We'll be there

01:49:21.940 To your chịu 1.00

01:49:22.760 We'll not manage

01:49:23.320 Your happiness

01:49:24.460 We'll be there

01:49:25.140 For I um drug

01:49:25.660 To your heart

01:49:26.520 Thank you

01:49:26.620 Thank you

01:49:27.160 I'm out

01:49:27.480 At a table

01:49:27.840 We'll be there

01:49:28.200 To your fingertips

01:49:30.200 We'll be there

01:49:30.800 For you

01:49:31.800 To your heart

01:49:32.460 From ourreso

01:49:32.680 We'll be there

01:49:33.420 To your heart

01:49:33.940 From your heart

01:49:35.100 To your heart

01:49:35.340 To your heart

01:49:35.400 To your heart

01:49:37.320 To your heart

01:49:37.900 Where you 욕

01:49:38.860 How does it

01:49:39.280 To your heart

01:49:40.540 To your heart

01:49:41.280 We'll be right back.

01:50:11.280 We're right back.

Red Ice TV - October 30, 2025

Active Clubs, Violence & Discipline： Advice for Younger Nationalists with Dan Eriksson

Episode Stats

Summary

Transcript